There are lot of shits who bully you here.
I've been bullied by the same shit, constantly any time that time is given to repeat istself.

Why subject me to constantly?
You know who's at fault.
Why not deal with it?
These people only really want to fuck with John Connar's timeline.

Christ, I can make up shit to get them arrested for beliefs they will never understand.
We, as mortal, Stonehenge people ask for little:
Christ, I drank too much coffee and need the shits bad...

I will back up this post, spark is my friend and these horrible members constantly attacking him has made him very upset. I know this from his posts.

Trying to follow the rules set out. And still continues.

A private message and some waiting game would have gotten the situation resolved discreetly, still, props for the lyrics.

Why not deal with it?



Because you is nothing but SPONGER, TOADY ASS-WIPE. That's way.
It does not matter whether I'm staying or open my private blog, You're done here.
I can not imagine that you mod this wonderful place in the coming weeks.


Z

I'd like some proof of harassment, or bullying. I think that's a tremendous exageration, in my opinion, even an offense to those who are really bullied or harassed. Sincerely there's been many bad mod jobs from you and you should really admit it one day, maybe, we await. I've seen you complain a lot about us complaining about you, about our whining but never have I seen you actually admit something you've done that was wrong.

I'd like some proof of harassment, or bullying.

Proof don't exist. He only want to point out it has some privileges here!!!
His leitmotif is to close some thread mostly for no reason. Could not live without it.
My threads would no longer that's for sure. I'm not a fool to make new threads in order
to them this jerk closed!!!

I'm sorry but I don't really see what decisions like closing zvonko's brilliant spaghetti western thread will accomplish. He has contributed with wonderful shares to this forum and I feel that he isn't given enough respect by some people and I think we all lose if he stops posting here.

He is an asshat.I pray for him to take his crappy Westerns and shove off. He threatened to but when push came to shove, his cowardly self stayed. So why should anyone take him seriously. And sparks, he is the less of evils. Imagine ME as an admin, then complain.

I'm sorry but I don't really see what decisions like closing zvonko's brilliant spaghetti western thread will accomplish.

+1

I noticed with huge surprise that this GREAT spaghetti western thread is now closed !!!!!!!
For god shake... Such a great thread...
This is an action that hurts forum, users and not Zvonko.
I really can't believe that a mod acted that way
(I don't speak theoretically, I am a mod in a much bigger place, I have dealt really serious situations, and I know. A mod uses common sense, a mod never quarrel with users, a mod keeps a serious level, a mod never says "You'all shut up" to users...)

To cut a long story short, Zvonko sometimes may seem overreacting, but it is not a big deal. If you had kicked this tapoktro user out of here, who is indeed a real shame for forum, calm and serenity would reign and no good user would complain. Justice would have been served. Just my two cents.

A mod uses common sense, a mod never quarrel with users, a mod keeps a serious level, a mod never says "You'all shut up" to users...)
If you had kicked this tapoktro user out of here, who is indeed a real shame for forum, calm and serenity would reign and no good user would complain. Justice would have been served.

You are right, my friend.
Instead of a mod, we have a shit here.

If there's SO many people against Sparktank, why the hell haven't you all come up, in every situation in which people have called you all out? Because seriously maybe if there were a huge group of people against Spark, there'd be no other thing to do than getting him off the mod powers if there were so many people not liking the way he mods.. plain simple.

If there's SO many people against Sparktank, why the hell haven't you all come up, in every situation in which people have called you all out? Because seriously maybe if there were a huge group of people against Spark, there'd be no other thing to do than getting him off the mod powers if there were so many people not liking the way he mods.. plain simple.

He does not realize that he is there to serve us not opposite.

If there's SO many people against Sparktank, why the hell haven't you all come up, in every situation in which people have called you all out? Because seriously maybe if there were a huge group of people against Spark, there'd be no other thing to do than getting him off the mod powers if there were so many people not liking the way he mods.. plain simple.

No. You'd have a buncha banned users. Admin are Happy to let sparky go at it. They are glad to let him, so no amount of moaning will change that.

No. You'd have a buncha banned users. Admin are Happy to let sparky go at it. They are glad to let him, so no amount of moaning will change that.

Ok then please you take this job and everyone will be happy.
Despite the different views that we have, I'm pretty sure you'd be the right person for this job!!!
Of course if you have time & ambition for that!!!

:facepalm:

No. You'd have a buncha banned users. Admin are Happy to let sparky go at it. They are glad to let him, so no amount of moaning will change that.

... Any reasons why there's such dictatorship? I mean, what? What the admin says go home, okay, but normally in forums, if there's a group of people who want "a change" then depending of the case, for the well being of the users something would be done.. I mean, lots of people don't like Sparky's modding, obviously, it's not just one, two or three. Any reason why you'd have unhappy users with a mod that doesn't do his job right?

Not that I know of. BUT, when Jessie had to deal with the dl forums he got very burnt out very quick. They cannot keep a mod there thanks to the bullshit that goes on. Sparky is ruthless, and I think mods want a tight leash for now. As I am NOT a mod that is just speculation on my part. But the facts as we see them show that Jessie has not undone anything, at least openly and Sparks has or seems to have free reign.

I think that's the only option why Spark is still a mod no matter how much he does not do his job right sometimes or people are not happy with him at all, because literally there's no one else and Jessie I guess would rather have him and people complaining than having no one at all.. we don't have no one no matter if Sparky's here anyway, there'd literally be no difference, if so, less drama about him. He's ruthless and not in the good way. As in, not "for the sake of the forum" or "people". Sparky kinda hacked or found a way to delete my account, and no one batted an eye for him, (with the exception of my friends) though Jessie was curious and wanted to know more about it, no consequences were done; none either when he kept literally bashing and shitting on all of us sometimes.. *shrug*

zvonko1510 can be a real pain-in-the-ass sometimes, not to mention rude as hell. I'd like to believe something is lost in translation, since English is not his native language, and while I think there is something to that, I know his personality must have at least something to do with it.

Having said that ...

Who gives a shit? It's words, not sticks and stones. It's not like he rants randomly for no reason and as far as I can tell he doesn't go out-of-his-way to annoy people or be rude on purpose. There is a thought process behind it all. He's not just some ugly troll trying to get a rise out of people.

Also he hasn't broken anything major that I can see. There's been no egregious transgressions. No attacks on race or religion or politics etc.
In other words, it's really not so bad in my opinion.

And let's face it, he's shared a lot of great music, including that rather amazing Spaghetti Western Thread. Being a sticky was nice but I don't care about that as much as it being open. Remove it from sticky status (so what) but don't close it. That's a crime!

At the end of the day, I call him a friend, because we all have some good and bad in us, some more so than others, but at the end of the day he is more good than bad and he does what we all want here ... share the music.

Anyway, I am posting this as my protest against the Spaghetti Western thread being closed. I would like to see it re-opened and remain that way.

Jessie, would you like me to help with moderation over at Film, Television and Classical Music Download Links? If you want my opinion, I'd personally nuke that whole area, too much drama stirred throughout the years over there (both of legal and internal kind).

Also, to the guy who spat "We moderators should serve you", never have I heard a bigger load of bullshit: technically speaking, we are volunteers, we don't owe you shit. We don't have to tolerate any of you, nor kiss your fucking asses. We are humans, too, so, do you want to be respected? Show some respect, first.

Jessie, would you like me to help with moderation over at Film, Television and Classical Music Download Links? If you want my opinion, I'd personally nuke that whole area, too much drama stirred throughout the years over there (both of legal and internal kind).

Also, to the guy who spat "We moderators should serve you", never have I heard a bigger load of bullshit: technically speaking, we are volunteers, we don't owe you shit. We don't have to tolerate any of you, nor kiss your fucking asses. We are humans, too, so, do you want to be respected? Show some respect, first.

I'm afraid you moderating would make a big change; a change we wouldn't accept at first, would maybe be even more ruthless than Spark's. You are right, we are spoiled and we do things we shouldn't at all. But, it may change the thing to better and I personally don't think you can be worse than him moderating.

Jessie, would you like me to help with moderation over at Film, Television and Classical Music Download Links? If you want my opinion, I'd personally nuke that whole area, too much drama stirred throughout the years over there (both of legal and internal kind).

Also, to the guy who spat "We moderators should serve you", never have I heard a bigger load of bullshit: technically speaking, we are volunteers, we don't owe you shit. We don't have to tolerate any of you, nor kiss your fucking asses. We are humans, too, so, do you want to be respected? Show some respect, first.

Well said.

Also, to the guy who spat "We moderators should serve you", never have I heard a bigger load of bullshit: technically speaking, we are volunteers, we don't owe you shit. We don't have to tolerate any of you, nor kiss your fucking asses. We are humans, too, so, do you want to be respected? Show some respect, first.

I did not mean literally, I just wanted to say that we should work together.
It is a mission impossible until someone thinks he can do something for no reason, like closing thread with 400 uploads!!! That's not only my thread.
Many people work so hard to complete collection!!!

Honestly. I think he closed it in purpose just to annoy you and make this happen, really, it's not the first time he's admitted to do something to piss people off. Because other than that I see NO reason at all to close the thread, really.

I'm afraid you moderating would make a big change; a change we wouldn't accept at first, would maybe be even more ruthless than Spark's. You are right, we are spoiled and we do things we shouldn't at all. But, it may change the thing to better and I personally don't think you can be worse than him moderating.
I'll have you know a few things:

- I'm ruthless.
- I'm worse than Sparktank, in the way that I don't give a shit if users complain about my moderation. I will do what I'm supposed to, simple as that, are you happy? Are you not? Tough cookie, I don't give a fuck.


What I'm going to say isn't aimed directly at you, Ponyo, but I would appreciate it if some of you would think about this:

I've been here for more than 8 years and never, never have I witnessed this kind of crap stirred over Video Game Music/Anime Music Download Links; I won't judge Sparktank's actions as a Moderator, but you aren't exactly the best userbase to work with.

Jessie, would you like me to help with moderation over at Film, Television and Classical Music Download Links? If you want my opinion, I'd personally nuke that whole area, too much drama stirred throughout the years over there (both of legal and internal kind).
So you want to totally delete that section, huh?

How about you stay as far away from it as possible, thanks.

I'll have you know a few things:

- I'm ruthless.
- I'm worse than Sparktank, in the way that I don't give a shit if users complain about my moderation. I will do what I'm supposed to, simple as that, are you happy? Are you not? Tough cookie, I don't give a fuck.


What I'm going to say isn't aimed directly at you, Ponyo, but I would appreciate it if some of you would think about this:

I've been here for more than 8 years and never, never have I witnessed this kind of crap stirred over Video Game Music/Anime Music Download Links; I won't judge Sparktank's actions as a Moderator, but you aren't exactly the best userbase to work with.

You have a point, though, but sometimes the users should be taken in consideration; sometimes what a mod does is not really the best for users and maybe they don't realize, but hey, the mod's the law, so.. shit happens. I'm not saying about you either, or this forum, I'm saying in general or if it ever a thing like this happens. Also, no offense taken. I won't deny anything. I've gone over forum limits sometimes.


So you want to totally delete that section, huh?

How about you stay as far away from it as possible, thanks.

He's not the only one. There's a couple of people that think the same, actually, those are the kind of people who have been in the Shrine before the music happened, who remember this place to be much better without drama and legal issues or anything. I can understand them. But I honestly, really like the music part of this forum. I don't think I could get what I get in this place, in any other. Not to mention the few bunch of good friends I've made here!

So you want to totally delete that section, huh?

How about you stay as far away from it as possible, thanks.
Haha! Give me some credit, if I'd listen my gut, I would ban every annoying user which asks for a FLAC version of a release in the lossy thread, without bothering to use the Requests area (talking about basic Netiquette here). Still, I do get above such things, I've moderated this kind of boards for more than 10 years, I put my personal issues aside.
Facts are on my side, though, the worst drama has always originated over at Film, TV, etcetera.

@Ponyo:
I've created my account when Download Links was already "going strong", I've been a leecher.

Well my point was simple. If someone thinks a particular sub-forum should not exist then that person shouldn't be a mod for that sub-forum.

To be clear, that was my point.

I've been here for more than 8 years and never, never have I witnessed this kind of crap stirred over Video Game Music/Anime Music Download Links; I won't judge Sparktank's actions as a Moderator, but you aren't exactly the best userbase to work with.

You do not need to judge about his work because you can not be objective.
Only ordinary members should assess your work.
That guy was wrong a million times. How long more?
Anyway i don't open this thread he did it himself. Why he do that?
Maybe because he knows that did the wrong thing and now needs collegial support!!!

Well my point was simple. If someone thinks a particular sub-forum should not exist then that person shouldn't be a mod for that sub-forum.

To be clear, that was my point.

Yeah, that kind of attitude could do no good though, a few innocent people who have no guilt could easily end up banned out of nowhere.. just because they asked for a FLAC in a thread that wasn't request. Okay, one time gives you the ban forever? It could be a mistake, maybe they did not know. If it happens more than once, and having been warned, then it's okay.

What the fuck is this, What.CD? If we're gonna be THAT strict, I do want my awesome music exclusives here, too. May as well make this a exclusive forum.

Rest easy, folks. I wouldn't do either of what I stated here, for an obvious reason; if you want to know the truth, that would be my course of action if I owned this place.

My main gripe at the moment is the closing of the Spaghetti Western thread.

I don't see anything happening in that thread to warrant such an action.

I'm no expert but I've been on the 'net since the early 1990's, before web browsers even existed and people used usenet as forums, and in my forum experience, a thread usually gets closed for very specific reasons. Either it has no place in the forum or the thread is so old and hasn't had any posts in ages or someone, usually 2 or more people, make various off-topic posts in the thread that take it in a direction totally different than the topic name and thread (up to that point) indicate. Also they can be closed due to excesses abuse but usually said posts are deleted rather than close the thread, especially in the case of a thread that is seen as still being viable (worthy of continued posts).

So again, maybe I'm missing something, but, I just don't see anything to warrant the closing of the thread. Perhaps an explanation by the mod would set us straight. And I use the word "us" because I'm clearly not the only one here befuddled by this thread being closed.

I'm clearly not the only one here befuddled by this thread being closed.

Of course you are not the only one here befuddled
by the closing of the Spaghetti Western thread.

This is what we have here:
An idiot decided to close the Spaghetti Western.
How small he must be!

Then a colleague of his appears and declares:
"I'd personally nuke that whole area.
I'm ruthless.
I'm worse than Sparktank."

Who gives a shit what you are?
Just stay away from our Forum, if you have nothing
to say about your colleague's pettiness!

Perhaps I'm not really in the best position to say anything - this username has been a member for a short while, a previous username, abandoned because I had to close down an email account for reasons too mundane to go into, was a member for longer. I've never been a prolific sharer - my old name shared more and contributed more - but I've been coming here for a few years.

My observation is that the moderation seems to be quite arbitrary - in some ways it doesn't seem to really be about behaviour, but about the thread itself and some personal dislike of that thread. I have no idea if there's any truth in that - it is simply the way it seems.

The spaghetti western thread and the Doctor Who Audio Drama thread seem to have been shut for reasons that don't seem to warrant the actions. At least on the face of it - but the notices of closure or the messages are pretty skewed towards it being an action of personal distaste rather than a moderated arbitration. The Doctor Who thread was given a message that said it was a lawless frontier town and that Sparktank was sick of having to babysit the members - when in reality it is largely a bunch of fairly genial geeks sharing things they like. There have been moments of insane drama for sure, and it's been ugly at times - but not for quite some time really.

The crux of Sparktank's message very much seems to be that the majority of members pretty much stick to that forum. Whether that in itself is in the spirit of an online forum or perfectly understandable in an online forum for a niche interest in the first place is debatable I suppose - but if (and I emphasise if) it has been closed for a week ostensibly because of a brief slightly passionate exchange of opinion but really because the moderator doesn't personally like the thread or a minority of people in the thread then that's not moderation really.

Same with the Spaghetti Western thread too.

That's just observations based on my thoughts - and I'm perfectly willing to accept that I'm second guessing in completely the wrong direction - but the reality is there are people being punished for the actions of a minority and no matter the reasoning that does seem very heavy handed.

It is not YOUR forum.....

+ on LSK helping out, cleaning up.

Too many menbers here are self-empowered for nothing.

Sigh.

This won't ever get a solution.

Of course you are not the only one here befuddled
by the closing of the Spaghetti Western thread.

This is what we have here:
An idiot decided to close the Spaghetti Western.
How small he must be!

Then a colleague of his appears and declares:
"I'd personally nuke that whole area.
I'm ruthless.
I'm worse than Sparktank."

Who gives a shit what you are?
Just stay away from our Forum, if you have nothing
to say about your colleague's pettiness!
Oh, look here. We've got users who conveniently skip posts which don't exactly "paint" them in a nice light.

Just this one time I'll dumb myself down to your level: personally, I wouldn't have closed that spaghetti western thread, not for that reason, at least. I would have downright banned the lot of you and be done with it. Why? Because it's no secret that some of you don't lose chance to give Sparktank shit, funny thing is that at least a few of you, high and mighty folks, claimed you were going to leave. Still here, why? EDIT:

You obviously dislike how things are working now and the administration is seemingly deaf to your complaints, I would leave if I were you, but hey, I'm no masochist.

If the price to pay for soundtracks is dealing with shitty attitudes, I'd rather forsake the soundtracks, not worth the hassle.

+ on LSK helping out, cleaning up.

Too many menbers here are self-empowered for nothing.

You are the best example for self-empowered.
You'll see just how much time will be allowed!!!

:erm:

You are the best example for self-empowered.
You'll see just how much time will be allowed!!!

I wish I kept your PM's where you blackmailed me about your threads.

All you do is shit on other members who don't bow down to you.

I have to deal with you the most.

Petros is now passive-aggressive.
But you are just aggressive.

Wow.

LSK, SparkTank, really, mods badly, want it or not. We're not shitting on him for being an admin. We're shitting on him because he mods badly. And that is not us being spoiled. I mean. REALLY, sometimes he's done terrible mod actions. The zvonko and tapoktro thing is a different thing. But really. He does not mod well. Ever since he started it. It was VERY obvious he takes the job too damn personal. His actions are personal, not profesional or what a mod should do. LSK, the spaghetti thread, or the DW thread, did no harm to the forum and there was no one doing shit on it. Spark closed it BECAUSE HE FUCKING FELT LIKE IT. Because "it just gives trouble" what trouble? Seriously, he just did it because he wanted it. OVERPOWER.

for being an admin

*mod

You keep doing that.
You keep calling me admin.

I don't even know, who the hell cares, that's not the point of what I said, don't skip it.

ooooooook. Well I need a nap. Be good. :awsm:

The Who audio thread had it's share of drama, it was not "harmless". I cannot truthfully speak about the western one though.

Be good. :awsm:

Nice one lol ;)

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If you actually look back, the doctor who audio drama thread has had some internal squabbles/Arguments.
they have been warned aswell, so technically the reason for its closure was because they did not listen, or obey the rules.....

There were reports received for that thread.

There were reports received for that thread.

:this:

There were reports received for that thread.

Oh well thanks for clearing it up. Your detailed response was both informative and enlightening.

:facepalm:

There were reports received for that thread.

Prove it or shut up.
Only for other people i'm not blackmail anybody. I'm not in that position.
I just refused proposal this liar to put WESTERN THREAD on his genious merged pinned topic.
He wants to usurp credits of other people. For that purpose, this genius has devised a plan to unstick all good
threads and put all together in his silly topic.

Thread 195097

I even agreed about DIGITMOVIES THREAD. If you don't have message maybe I still have.
In that message i wrote to not touch western thread because Jessie sticked that not mod.
From that moment start all the problems .
Before that day WESTERN thread for it was divine. He even helped me with some posts on thread.
So tell me finally jerk, reason for unstick & close thread?

:facepalm:

I'm tired of this. Let's all move on, it's useless. We've done this like 5 times already. He won't move on, he gets to do whatever the hell he wants, and we have no part in this. It's the rules, aparently. Don't like it, then leave, they'd say to us.

Jessie made that a Sticky? Why the exception? We don't usually "Sticky" download threads and that's something he himself said (Thread 195170).

It is not YOUR forum.....

I'm genuinely not sure why you think I am giving the impression I believe it is - I'm talking about one thread on a forum that I frequent on occasion that has been closed - there's nothing proprietorial in that.


The Who audio thread had it's share of drama, it was not "harmless". I cannot truthfully speak about the western one though.

As I said - 'There have been moments of insane drama for sure, and it's been ugly at times - but not for quite some time really.'

From what I see - and I have no idea if posts have been deleted or not - but certainly not enough drama recently enough to warrant the week long closure in my opinion.

in my opinion.

Trumped by reports.

I'm tired of this. Let's all move on, it's useless. We've done this like 5 times already. He won't move on, he gets to do whatever the hell he wants, and we have no part in this. It's the rules, aparently. Don't like it, then leave, they'd say to us.

@Ponyo

This may even go out for good. That thread will be returned to its place, i promised you, because there is no valid reason for closing them. Such a good thing will not disappear even if I did it again. The only question is who's going to reopen HE OR SOMEONE ELSE.

Z

Lol.

It's been re-opened for awhile, dude.

I'm genuinely not sure why you think I am giving the impression I believe it is - I'm talking about one thread on a forum that I frequent on occasion that has been closed - there's nothing proprietorial in that.
Fairly sure Amanda's post was directed at Petros.

It's been re-opened for awhile, dude.

Lol.

It's been re-opened for awhile, dude.

No man will be returned on it's place. You will see!!!

I'm genuinely not sure why you think I am giving the impression I believe it is - I'm talking about one thread on a forum that I frequent on occasion that has been closed - there's nothing proprietorial in that.



As I said - 'There have been moments of insane drama for sure, and it's been ugly at times - but not for quite some time really.'

From what I see - and I have no idea if posts have been deleted or not - but certainly not enough drama recently enough to warrant the week long closure in my opinion.

sorry, I was speaking to a post just above yours. We were cross posting. I have no idea what happened in the Who thread, since despite starting it, I am unwelcome. Leon, Jessie stickied my custom art thread too, and told me it would remain so. Yet....ah well.

Trumped by reports.

Fine - as I said I'm merely commenting that it seems heavy handed to close a thread of used by a number of users based on reports about one person - which is the impression you gave in your post about the closure - that one person was to blame.

It just seems like a disproportionate response

Closures like this have happened before though.

Are you telling me a mod trumped/overruled an administrator? Oh, this ha comedy gold potential, it takes me back. I want to think they have discussed the matter privately, if not, what the heck happened to hierarchy? Le LuLz

In years past even the Film Hunt thread was closed and it has never regained it's popularity .We lost posters then too.

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Are you telling me a mod trumped/overruled an administrator? Oh, this ha comedy gold potential, it takes me back. I want to think they have discussed the matter privately, if not, what the heck happened to hierarchy? Le LuLz

This is exactly what I am saying,yes.

Face it the whole site a nuc waiting to go.

http://i.imgur.com/Jj3W9WN.gif

Just wait until I am mod......:D

I was more active around the time the first Film/Hunt thread got closed, you pretty much brought that on yourselves, folks; the v2 has an OP/Warning by Sarah, for Christ's sake, haha!

As for the rest, Jesus. I shouldn't, but I'm getting a kick out of it.

Just wait until I am mod......:D

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/4877982/apocalypse-o.gif
DOOMSDAY!!

What happened with the film hunt thread?

The horror!!

**oh God, nooob...**...:D It was hell. I was well involved in that. My bad..:erm:

Tut tut.. lol

What happened with the film hunt thread?

a few notes if you guys want this thing to survive.

feel free to posts requests here but keep in mind we also have a requests forum.

don't shit up the thread: don't troll, don't feed the trolls. if someone is being an asshole or breaking rules, contact a mod, don't whine about it in the thread.

please create new topics for each upload in addition to posting them here: i know it takes an extra second of your time, but it's much appreciated.

keep off-topic discussion to a minimum: this thread is for offtopic chitchat with fellow film score hunt thread fans. go nuts over there.

Self-explanatory. The smart guys went nuts with the off-topic, in a nutshell.

What happened with the film hunt thread?

A lot of fun reads if you look through it.
The worst arguments. I think it was mostly about lossless quality rips.

About the custom art thread, I wasn't made aware of it and after I unstickied it, there wasn't any drama about it.
The film section has more stickies than it needs these days.

The mega index thread seemed like a feasible solution.

Sweet reminder you were the one making 20 threads and sticking them all..

The forum needs it. Apparently.

Since those were created, there are less reports and PM's about those topics.

Sparktank, on average, how many reports do you receive daily?

Not daily.


Weekly, the drama gets intense about those.

The trade-only thing, that caused the most drama.

Sparky....I felt no need to over dramatize it. I did tell you I am hurt by it. I think that thread is one I am most proud of having affiliation with. That said, there seems no NEED to sticky it or anything. I was waiting for you to find your groove man....:D

sorry, I was speaking to a post just above yours. We were cross posting. I have no idea what happened in the Who thread, since despite starting it, I am unwelcome. Leon, Jessie stickied my custom art thread too, and told me it would remain so. Yet....ah well.

Ah, sorry Amanda - this is why I don't post in forums that much - it's all ME ME ME :)

Many apologies though

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Closures like this have happened before though.

I know and those closures were definitely unavoidable, I was around during that horrible drama orgy a few years ago - as I say - it has gotten ugly before, and it may again.

Just not sure it was that ugly this time.

All is well, no worries.

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I am....unsure of where the idea that one can say or do whatever they want here comes from? There are clear rules, just not enough mods to enforce them. Yet.

Well said.

It seems to me that some users even got this extremely idiotic idea that, since they have uploaded a lot, they or their threads are somewhat above the rules… That's simply not the case, well, I'd hope so, at least.

Where have you got the idea that we think we can do whatever we want? That's not it. We just complain about one mod we think does a terrible job, and NOT because he tries to moderate us, but because he really makes terrible decisions out of no where that do more bad than good. It is not us thinking we can do what we want.

Not about YOU. There are....others who were upset about a "free Forum". So I was asking a blanket question that envelops more than just this one situation.

The forum needs it. Apparently.

Since those were created, there are less reports and PM's about those topics.

HA-HA YOU TRY HACK AND MY PROFILE!!!
Man you really are a comical guy.
It's do not you find it easier to ask from admin to banned me out instead to do things which you do not understand!!!

HA-HA YOU TRY HACK AND MY PROFILE!!!
Man you really are a comical guy.
It's do not you find it easier to ask from admin to banned me out instead to do things which you do not understand!!!
If you have proof of an attempted hack, forward it to Jessie [include the IP address, of course].

I think it time to clos this thread if we are not gonna be constructive. I mean, Holy Hannah folks....

If you have proof of an attempted hack, forward it to Jessie.

I'm not snitch like that mod if i have remark I report that in public.
Just for you info 40 minutes i can't send message to other people and of course still do not have access to LATEST THREADS!!!

OR, continue on....

I'm not snitch like that mod if i have remark I report that in public.
Just for you info 40 minutes i can't send message to other people and of course still do not have access to LATEST THREADS!!!
What? That has nothing to do with being a spy, you're supposed to report such security breaches to an administrator. This is the second report about a moderator possibly taking unauthorized possession of a user's account.

Sweet reminder Sparky deleted my last account "just to prove a leak in the forum"

And there were no reprimend or consequences to him. Ever.

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He admitted that himself if you think I'm the other one

Oh yeah, Sparktank seemed almost delighted to tell me that.

What? That has nothing to do with being a spy, you're supposed to report such security breaches to an administrator. This is the second report about a moderator possibly taking unauthorized possession of a user's account.

I TOLD YOU ALREADY THAT I LIKE DO THAT IN PUBLIC. CORPUS DELICTI
LOOK AT CAPTURE UNDER SPOILER AND TELL ME DID YOU SEE ARROW FOR LATEST THREAD OPTION.

I'm actually glad he did, it got rid of a few request threads or stupid threads I had, and gave me a new start on this account.

However, the thing is, a mod exploited the forum just to have me banned as a personal vendetta, on his own, without consulting no one, outta nowhere, and he got no consequences or anything. What a mod. See? This is what I mean. He's no good at it.

Yeah, Ponyo, I was referring to your "experience", actually.

This just got too fucked up, even for my tastes. I need to talk with Jessie, why would he keep him around if he's been the culprit?

EDIT:

@zvonko1510: I understand that, what I meant to say was talk about it also to the administration.

FINALLY! Some god damned sense. This was a month ago, dunno why is it NOW when people know of it. I pretty much said it a couple of times.

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I would assume, like I said, that Jessie keeps him knowing so because he'd rather have a controversial mod than no mod at all.

@zvonko1510: I understand that, what I meant to say was talk about it also to the administration.

Remember one thing: I have never complained to anybody here even not that clown. He start this.
It would be funny if it were not sad. With this is damaged only people who waiting links.

Things do change. .....others can be mods...

And Leon....yea Sparky targeted Ponyo directly in public, Ponyo became a guest, then it all went away. And sparky was gone a few days too.

I never tried to hack anyone's account.

And he is targeting Zvonko and one other now too. He has told me as much.

Sweet reminder Sparky deleted my last account "just to prove a leak in the forum"

And there were no reprimend or consequences to him. Ever.

Sarah and I already dealt with it in PM.

I never tried to hack anyone's account.

I dunno. No one seems to believe that. I don't know if I believe it. And that is the problem my friend. A mod needs to be believed in an accusation like this.

Sarah and I already dealt with it in PM.

And? Is that supposed to justify anything?

And yes, it is between Sarah and you. But weird stuff keeps happening.....

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Ah well, who knows anymore.

Because we can't see "latest thread" on profile?

You only see that when you view a persons profile.

How does that affect hacking?

I dunno. No one seems to believe that. I don't know if I believe it. And that is the problem my friend. A mod needs to be believed in an accusation like this.

Do you want my password in order tu try find LATEST THREADS over my profile?

a few notes if you guys want this thing to survive.
... if someone is being an asshole or breaking rules, contact a mod, don't whine about it in the thread.
But in the Doctor Who Audio Drama thread the reason given for closing the thread is that people reported someone for what they were posting.

From what I could see there is one person there whose posting style is sometimes quite abbrasive. And he/she seems to sometimes pick on certain people.
I'd have thought a warning to that poster was what was needed.

In the two posts on why the thread has been closed TheSparktank™ 2.1 actively encourages the other users of the thread to bully the offending poster when the thread re-opens.

I do appreciate that modding is a hard, thankless task. I'm appreciative of it and absolutely wouldn't question it in normal circumstances.
But these actions just seem like an appalling way of dealing with it and only set up more problems in the future.

I don't even see that on my profile.

Is it really okay to keep someone who exploited the forum to ban me, as a vendetta, as a mod?

Simply listen to people once. Quit Sparky's mod duties, put LSK. He'll be happy, not babysitting us and we will be happy too. This simple.

I don't even see that on my profile.

No more lies, Jerk.
They dissaper on my profile at the same moment when i post note on my threads about closing WESTERN THREADS
and of course insulting you. I must google it my threads all day!!!

LATEST THREADS has gone from my profile only one time when the forum was hacked some months ago!!!

Is it really okay to keep someone who exploited the forum to ban me, as a vendetta, as a mod?

Simply listen to people once. Quit Sparky's mod duties, put LSK. He'll be happy, not babysitting us and we will be happy too. This simple.


You do NOT want Leon. Trust me on this. (no offense Leon, but....well.) Leon (and Darth Revan) despise this section. Neither will just leave us alone. Moderation in full is what we will get. Perhaps I shall moderate. Wouldn't THAT be a hoot??

What the hell are you even talking about?

I can't see "latest threads" on anyone's profile picture.

You do know you can click your own profile and see "latest threads" right there.

I still don't see wha that has to do with hacking.
I'm not even sure how you came up with that idea.

Anyone else? No one? Thought so.

I could not send messages eigther for some time. whether it is to accidentally?
Listen asshole does not know what will happen next, BUT I'M WARNING YOU don't touch my threads while this does not solve with admin!!!!

Warning? I think touching you will be the first thing I will do as a new mod

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Were that to happen. In jest of course.

You do NOT want Leon. Trust me on this. (no offense Leon, but....well.) Leon (and Darth Revan) despise this section. Neither will just leave us alone. Moderation in full is what we will get. Perhaps I shall moderate. Wouldn't THAT be a hoot??
I don't despise the Download Links section, nor the Film/TV one. My comment about "nuking it" came from the fact that over the years, it was the biggest source of drama:

- First we had a few dickheads in the "original" Lossless Movie Soundtracks and Scores thread act like complete pricks to someone who was mostly guilty of not speaking English very well, they pissed him off and thanks to him a few labels got notified and Varese Sarabande became banned material.

- The evergreen drama about recording sessions which we shouldn't post openly on the forums, otherwise self-entitled elitists don't get their holy grails in the wank me-circles.

- The FSM crap because of the Star Trek release.

- The simple fact that Movie Soundtracks and Scores are slightly less niche things than, say, Video Game and/or Anime Soundtracks, it could be argued we're receiving a lot more DMCA takedown-requests "thanks" to their presence here.

zvonko I am not sure about you either. To be clear this is not going on now but earlier in the week?

I don't despise the Download Links section, nor the Film/TV one. My comment about "nuking it" came from the fact that over the years, it was the biggest source of drama:

- First we had a few dickheads in the "original" Lossless Movie Soundtracks and Scores thread act like complete pricks to someone who was mostly guilty of not speak English very well, they pissed him off and thanks to him a few labels got notified and Varese Sarabande became banned material.

- The evergreen drama about recording sessions which we shouldn't post openly on the forums, otherwise self-entitled elitists don't get their holy grails in the wank me-circles.

- The simple fact that Movie Soundtracks and Scores are slightly less niche things than, say, Video Game and/or Anime Soundtracks, it could be argued we're receiving a lot more DMCA takedown-requests "thanks" to their presence here.

Fair enough.

Warning? I think touching you will be the first thing I will do as a new mod

Then do that my love... mean start with mods, I do not mind.
As I told you before you is right person for that job, sharp-tongued but it seems fair!!!

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zvonko I am not sure about you either. To be clear this is not going on now but earlier in the week?

I ASK YOU AGAIN, YOU WANT MY PASSWORD?

LSK may be strict, but he'd be better at making reasonable mod decisions than Sparky ever has.

Now zvonko. Calm down. Take a rest because you're just going overboard and it isn't helping you. I don't think he hacked you.

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I don't think Amanda needs to be a mod. She has enough, and should not have to stand or "babysit" us

sharp-tongued but it seems fair!!!

Trust me, my tongue is very, very soft.....

Trust me, my tongue is very, very soft.....

It was supposed to be a compliment!!!

I don't despise the Download Links section, nor the Film/TV one. My comment about "nuking it" came from the fact that over the years, it was the biggest source of drama:

- First we had a few dickheads in the "original" Lossless Movie Soundtracks and Scores thread act like complete pricks to someone who was mostly guilty of not speaking English very well, they pissed him off and thanks to him a few labels got notified and Varese Sarabande became banned material.
I remember that German guy (at least I think he was from Germany). He was fucking insane so please don't make him sound like he was some innocent put-upon person bullied by "dicks".
As I recall, and this was a LONG time ago now, the mods were of no help with him when it was clear he was flying WAY off the handle.
It got so bad that most of the active people on that thread left and formed a secret forum for lossless soundtrack collecting.

The problems with your profile doesn't even remotly relate to hacking.

I'm pretty sure the whole forum lost function to see latest thread on profile pictures.
Just as the "like" button.

Don't know about the messaging thing.

Mine was innuendo to relieve tension.....

I remember that German guy (at least I think he was from Germany). He was fucking insane so please don't make him sound like he was some innocent put-upon person bullied by "dicks".
As I recall, and this was a LONG time ago now, the mods were of no help with him when it was clear he was flying WAY off the handle.
It got so bad that most of the active people on that thread left and formed a secret forum for lossless soundtrack collecting.
Oh no, I remember all too well, FulciLives. Those guys were "dicks", because instead of doing the smart thing and ignore him, they mocked and belittled him.

Mine was innuendo to relieve tension.....

smooth

smooth

smooth allover.....:D

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edit...wait you're what? 14? nvrmnd.

18, actually

I dunno where you got that idea. XD

The problems with your profile doesn't even remotly relate to hacking.

I'm pretty sure the whole forum lost function to see latest thread on profile pictures.
Just as the "like" button.

Don't know about the messaging thing.


Problem is relate to hacking!!! That's function work's fine before hack atack some months ago!!!
Consequence that attack: DOWN LIKE & SEARCH SYSTEM.
When all search system is down, it is normal that you can not use LATEST THREAD option eighter.
But then SARAH solve problem with search system and all option come-back until today, about 15pm when this all started.
Ok I do not like to accuse without reason, but there are and other members.
If all PEOPLE HAVE THIS FUNCTION HIDDEN AND SOME TROUBLE WITH MESSAGING i wiil apologize!!!

I do not have that function choice..

Okay, I apologize if this may not be following in accordance with this "argument" (another one?) nor have I read all the pages, BUT, (I have a but), anything Sparktank, Jessie, Leon Scott Kennedy, or any other moderator has ever done here is probably warranted, because I know they are not idiots. There are a lot users (I shall not name any) that like to lash out or complain, and these things (as has been said) happen because some don't show respect. There is always a reason for anything that happens. And this has most definitely been said before, if you don't like it, leave. It's not that bad here, I mean the Film music forum and Video Game forum community's are very different, and stupid arguments start in the Film music forum so often, more now probably than ever. People like to act like they are high and mighty and know everything because they've uploaded a shit-ton. Then when something is uploaded that they want and it's not "lossless" they whine, complain, and it all leads to actions of our moderators. This is no dictatorship (and be DAMN thankful Leon is not in control of everything, no offense to you Leon). Shit Happens? Yes. There is never no reason. I think some people are bored, and are spending their time poorly by arguing. Be thankful for the music, it's free, it is not good to be ungrateful.

:this:

But in the Doctor Who Audio Drama thread the reason given for closing the thread is that people reported someone for what they were posting.

From what I could see there is one person there whose posting style is sometimes quite abbrasive. And he/she seems to sometimes pick on certain people.
I'd have thought a warning to that poster was what was needed.

In the two posts on why the thread has been closed TheSparktank� 2.1 actively encourages the other users of the thread to bully the offending poster when the thread re-opens.

I do appreciate that modding is a hard, thankless task. I'm appreciative of it and absolutely wouldn't question it in normal circumstances.
But these actions just seem like an appalling way of dealing with it and only set up more problems in the future.

The modding in that thread went from zero to over-reaction in a heartbeat. Yes the poster in question was confrontational and abrasive but nothing that a pm wouldn't have solved and nothing that anyone was particularly reacting badly to. In general the thread was a civilised place to be and unfortunately the modding and the utterly bizarrely aggressive way in which it was implemented seem totally out of place. Just my five cents.

I do not have that function choice..

Even worse situation, he is responsible for it. In the dark how to stop me with posted certain message he fucked up all system. This option is missing yesterday when I posted the first two MESSAGE with insulting contents (about 16:00).If you don't believe me, i will try to find for you GOOGLE evidence. Because i must search on google my threads for posting that message. I did it (search on google) only yesterday because until 16pm everything was alright.

No offense taken, Clonemaster15, I know full well that I would be a handful, often I'm way too strict, heck, I've been compared to a Terminator because of the way I apply "directives" (rules), but wanna know something? I haven't woken up a day and decided to be a fucking prick for laughs, I've witnessed this kind of degeneration elsewhere, throughout the years, too.
I can very easily be heavy-handed, yes, but I've also seen userbase(s) overstep its goddamn boundaries way too many times. Look at what happened (and it's still happening) here on the Shrine and tell me you don't deserve a heavy-handed moderation while keeping a straight face, I almost dare you.

Meeting halfway? Ha! Damn fine work you did with that, users, almost every goddamn action here by Spark led to pitiful jabs at him and drama-bait threads such as this. Guess what, the moderators aren't the only ones who should walk that road, you're supposed to take a few steps, too. I'm ashamed of what I'm going to say, but when I've taken up Jessie's offer to help him moderate the Video Game Music Download Links forum a bunch of years ago, I kinda expected this kind of crap from them. I feel like everything is turned upside down, they're the angels (and I do mean it, guys and girls, seriously, I feel almost bored as a moderator), you're the ones problematic.

Now, this is a small note for the likes of Amanda: I'm somewhat hurt by the fact you said they wouldn't want me as moderator of that area, I wouldn't make up rules on the fly, I'd enforce what's already there, just like I should. Though I still stand by the opinions I made known in my previous posts, don't underestimate me, I would act in compliance with the rules of this place, if there's one thing I'm great at is casting my own personal issues aside when I'm supposed to be all business.

@ LSK

It is not about who has how much flexible. We need a man who knows how to do this moderating job, not this clown.
If it be someone with the strict requirements (as you have them) we will adjust. It is important only, that we know the rules of the game.
So please look my latest post on Western Thread and honestly tell me which rule I hurt to be closed.

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and you in right: if someone violates rules it should be banned but hey my goodness, close topic with 400 lossless working links, without a valid explanation, that is act which is able to do only complete idiot!!!

@ LSK

It is not about who has how much flexible. We need a man who knows how to do this moderating job, not this clown.
If it be someone with the strict requirements (as you have them) we will adjust. It is important only, that we know the rules of the game.
So please look my latest post on Western Thread and honestly tell me which rule I hurt to be closed.
If I had to look simply and only at Sparktank's reason for closure, only one thing would come time to mind: bullshit driven by some kind of personal issue with you. The closure of the thread did look unwarranted, personally, though, I wouldn't have been against the "un-sticky" things, but that's because I was under the impression that we simply don't sticky download links threads, regardless of how good and well organized they are.

@Sparktank:

Take this for what it is, a mere suggestion: get your goddamn act together. I personally don't care if they guys bully you in Private Messages, someone's posing a problem? Do what you're supposed to and take the issue up to the guys higher in the food-chain (admins).
Also, I haven't forgotten that thread you once created in Film/TV where you've lost your shit+insulted users of that area (heck, you've even made it a sticky, if memory serves me right). You do seem to get stuff way too personally, this thread here is another example of that. Consider to step down from your position, if it's proving to be too taxing on your state of mind. There is no shame in admitting you may simply not be cut out for the job.

I wouldn't have been against the "un-sticky" things, but that's because I was under the impression that we simply don't sticky download links threads, regardless of how good and well organized they are.

Ok but that thread pinned by Jessie. So tell me Spark is now above all you?
If he does not respect hierarchy, how can you expect that from the rest of us?


By the way i still can't send message from time to time!!!

We cannot say that though, vo. Maybe he has discussed his plans with Jessie. Maybe Admin agrees. We cannot judge what we do not know.

Leon, I did not want to hurt you. Can I fix the butt-hurt, or is the ass a total loss?:awsm:

We cannot say that though, vo. Maybe he has discussed his plans with Jessie. Maybe Admin agrees. We cannot judge what we do not know.:

Just look times for 2 latest post on that thread

zvonko 3:59 PM Thread 187831
spark 4:00 PM Thread 187831

This is his explanation ''You can bully the adminds into getting Sticky For Life, but not me...''

So tell me you still believe in that utopian story about conversation with admin.
What prove you still need?

Still think LSK, though strict, would be a much better mod than Sparks, he'd be strict, but he'd do better, much better decisions, and for the good of the forum, than Sparky. OF COURSE people would also complain about him because of the strictness, but I really see more reason to complain about Sparky than him. Just. No more Sparky as an mod. Once more the issue is NOT that we lash on him for being mod thinking we can do what we want; the issue is that HE MODS TERRIBLY. He has made many terrible decisions that led to no good. HELL, even the forum was more calm the days he left!

Spark is not admin... he is a mod.

Fixed..

Okay, I'm not an old-timey user around here -- I only discovered this place because of the DW thread -- and I may be opening myself up as a target (for a variety of people), but as someone who is/has been a mod on other forums, wikis, email groups, listservs, etc over the last twenty years, I feel the need to say something.

Moderating is an ungodly tough job. Users often treat mods with disdain. But a moderator should never work without a cool head, and needs a skin thicker than anything. Now, I've been a member here for about 2 years. I don't post much, I share what I can, I try and be a good, if quiet, participant. Over the last few months, what I've witnessed in the DW thread has been a level of moderation that has gone from Almost Zero to Practically Draconian since Sparktank made his first appearance there. On any forum, arguments happen from time to time, sometimes people work it out or get over it, and sometimes someone hits the report button, whether they should or not. A moderator has to judge the merit of such reports, not just issue a knee-jerk reaction. And the so-called "drama" that Spark shut the thread down over, really didn't warrant such action. I can't imagine any other mod on any other forum I've ever been a part of would have done the same thing in response to what was going on. At most, it called for some strongly worded PMs directed to one or two people, as only one or two people were getting in each other's faces. Are warnings towards a specific user even something that happens here? Or is closing an entire thread the standard when one person makes an arse of themselves? Because the latter seems to be all that goes on from what I've witnessed and heard here.

As I said before, moderating is tough. It is thankless. It is emotionally draining. But if you aren't up to dealing with all that justly, impartially and unemotionally, then you shouldn't be doing it at all. I have to question the emotional maturity of any moderator that would start a self-serving pity party thread such as this.

:this:

Finally SOME sense. Sparktanks is a problem.

Sparktank, this could all be sorted if you just sucked it up.
Moderate. Do what you have to. You don't give a fuck what other users think. You do what you have to do.
Why all this drama? Why start a whole new fucking thread, FULL OF DRAMA?


I'm worse than Sparktank, in the way that I don't give a shit if users complain about my moderation. I will do what I'm supposed to, simple as that, are you happy? Are you not? Tough cookie, I don't give a fuck.

I don't see Leon creating threads. I don't see him in heated arguments.

Just suck it up, dude! Stop creating all this worthless drama if you hate it so much!

Nope. He must not moderate anymore.

Nope. He must not moderate anymore.

If he hates moderating this forum so much he'd have stopped already.
How many times has he left? Well, sorry, how many times has he threatened to leave because he's so fed up of moderating this miserable forum full of miserable, whiny users?

If admins didn't want him to moderate anymore, they'd have stopped him. Simple as that.
But since they don't have anybody else moderating the Film, and TV threads, they don't want to. Because that leaves Jessie on his own.
Why not get new moderators? Ever thought of that? Or maybe reassign some moderators to different areas?
I don't know.

He does hate to moderate us, to "babysit us" as he has told us, he just keeps on because there's no one else wanting to take the job (up until now, I think) and the admin prefers to have him doing shit than no one else moderating. But now LSK offers himself to the thing. Sparky is not needed anymore. LSK will be darn strict. But I'm PRETTY SURE he won't do as much as the bad choices Sparky has.

If admins didn't want him to moderate anymore, they'd have stopped him.

Which actually brings to mind a question I've had for a while. How does one contact an admin here? To discuss issues with a moderator who may have overstepped themselves. I looked a while ago when Sparks displayed his questionable decision-making skills and temperament a couple of months ago, and couldn't find any means to do so.

Send a PM to Jessie. Sarah's also the main admin, owner and all, but not sure if they'd do anything.

You can also go to the Quick Links -> View Site Leaders section at the top.
Am I the only one aware of that place? It has direct buttons to send a PM to any mod / admin.

Am I the only one aware of that place?

Apparently so. I appreciate the elucidation. It may come in handy at some point. Thank you.

Oh, I've had my couple of screw-ups as moderator here, I'm not without flaws; a few of the users over at the lossless video game soundtrack thread could probably share a few stories, but they would hopefully also state that I tried to the best of my abilities to explain the reasoning behind my actions, when questioned about them.

Once more I don't think you could be worse than him. Really.

I Feel this topic has reached it now. Its been said hundreds of times again and again.

Maybe we should dig up my butt-hurt thread. It was designed as a place for these types of topics, after all...

If I understood correctly, excuse my French, we should give him another credit
because he allegedly working hard and responsible work here?
I have also one and daily risking dismissal because I use Company work-time to contribute
on this forum as I am doing right now in order to forward messages on time.
Now 'patient' moderator and that screw-up. I cant sent message when use company's router.
I don't know what is problem but i know when problem start. Yesterday about 4pm.

You may also need to be silent while he wages war with his own ego, like sheeps?
Or to applaud his ridiculous excuses and lamentations?

No!!!
Spark jeopardize his own integrity and also seriously undermines 'atmosphere' here, not to say that the contaminate.
Looks better say 'good-bye' to one mod than 'closing time'.

Z

Question.

I Knew the Doctor Who: Audio Drama Thread Had Been Closed. Why Has the Other Doctor Who One Been Closed? Thread 72196

Question.

I Knew the Doctor Who: Audio Drama Thread Had Been Closed. Why Has the Other Doctor Who One Been Closed? Thread 72196

That's news to me. There's little-to-no crossover in regular posters between the two DW threads, so closing one because of the other's purported issues seems unlikely to have been necessary. An explanation would be appreciated, yes.

I Have yo Admit, Shame that is Closed. I Have Never Seen anything Bad there. Lots of Helpful People and Great Collections.

I Knew the Doctor Who: Audio Drama Thread Had Been Closed. Why Has the Other Doctor Who One Been Closed? Thread 72196


That's news to me. There's little-to-no crossover in regular posters between the two DW threads, so closing one because of the other's purported issues seems unlikely to have been necessary. An explanation would be appreciated, yes.


I Have yo Admit, Shame that is Closed. I Have Never Seen anything Bad there. Lots of Helpful People and Great Collections.
Yeah, I don't understand it either. I have a few things that I'd like to share there but now can't until the tenth... (That is, if the thread is locked for the same duration as the audio drama one) I'm not even sure why the audio drama thread was locked, Sparktank's message seemed overly opinionated and very much unnecessary. It was just out of nowhere!

Its A Damn Shame, That Thread Is Awsome, I Love Posting There And Talking to You And The Others. But If It IS Shut. Then Another Reason For Me to Be Annoyed/Unhappy Here.. :(

No offense taken, Clonemaster15, I know full well that I would be a handful, often I'm way too strict, heck, I've been compared to a Terminator because of the way I apply "directives" (rules), but wanna know something? I haven't woken up a day and decided to be a fucking prick for laughs, I've witnessed this kind of degeneration elsewhere, throughout the years, too.
I can very easily be heavy-handed, yes, but I've also seen userbase(s) overstep its goddamn boundaries way too many times. Look at what happened (and it's still happening) here on the Shrine and tell me you don't deserve a heavy-handed moderation while keeping a straight face, I almost dare you.

Meeting halfway? Ha! Damn fine work you did with that, users, almost every goddamn action here by Spark led to pitiful jabs at him and drama-bait threads such as this. Guess what, the moderators aren't the only ones who should walk that road, you're supposed to take a few steps, too. I'm ashamed of what I'm going to say, but when I've taken up Jessie's offer to help him moderate the Video Game Music Download Links forum a bunch of years ago, I kinda expected this kind of crap from them. I feel like everything is turned upside down, they're the angels (and I do mean it, guys and girls, seriously, I feel almost bored as a moderator), you're the ones problematic.

That's what I mean when I say you and Jessie are not idiots: you've never decide to do anything without reason. As for Sparktank: I'm not completely sure anymore, maybe he has lashed out before when he shouldn't have. I thought a solution
was found, I guess not. So what needs to happen here? Hmmm... I don't know anymore. Should Sparktank continue moderating and get his act together? Should he step down and someone take his place? We will have to see I suppose.

Give him another chance? He's already screwed up like two times or three, and in most of them he basically shouted a big "fuck you" to all of us.


Definitely have him step out of the mod place. He'll be happy, he won't have to babysit us and so will we be happy too not having to stand his terrible mod jobs.

EVRYONE IS TO BLAME! GOD!

Spark is to Blame For "Bad Mod Decisions"
We Are To Blame For Constantly Complaining And Shouting Out/Harassing the Admin/Mods.

No One Is Perfect, Just Drop It Now. Constatly Posting the Same Things Won't Make A Difference.

You Have All Made Your Points And Now Just Get On With What You Come Here to Do.

Please.

No, we won't let this 7 pages of drama be for nothing. A change needs to be made. NOW.

instead of bitching towards sparky, why don't you guys vote for a new moderator?
i doubt sparky wont hesitate to get of the chair and let some else take all the heat ;)

Well LSK proposed. Voting for someone would be a thing, but as we know no one else proposed.

Its Not For Us to Decide. If We Said This Person, Admin Choose Who They Trust And Want.

Well. The admin should already get Sparktank off the horse, knowing what he did to me, and what he's doing to all of us.

He doesn't want to because no other wants to take the job? There's LSK. Or search another. Or no one. But get Sparktank off the job. He's terrible at it. And does more harm than good. Literally the days he dissapear, peace reigns. He makes more controversy with his crappy decisions more than anything.

Everyone try and spend a week without posting here.
It's actually been quite nice, not bothering to feed the fire here.

Watching from the side lines

notice a spark is not here, either? hmm. I NEED the who soundtrack thread reopened. It was innocent.

here is the thing:

you guys need to talk in a calm way with the admins (jessie & sarah) and propose a new moderator for the dl-section. also involve sparky.
he probably will add someone for the voting of a new mod... or not, idk ;)

after that a new thread can be created in which folks can volunteer to become a mod for the dl section. then we vote and get a new mod.

notice a spark is not here, either? hmm. I NEED the who soundtrack thread reopened. It was innocent.

Spark always does that. Made a huge problem and leave for a day or two.

Yeah, let's get serious, guys. Something NEEDS to be done. Instead of arguing or complaining let's just move on to actually doing something.

how about you leave, for a day or two, we close this thread and wait to see what happens next or not.

You Have All Made Your Points And Now Just Get On With What You Come Here to Do.



Unfortunately they can't because the threads they visit are closed.

how about you leave, for a day or two, we close this thread and wait to see what happens next or not.

How about you do the same?

:facepalm:

Let's move on, people. Really.

We're here to share and enjoy. We have no obligation to participate and/or create drama in this place. It serves no good purpose. Either you enjoy the ride or go somewhere else where the conditions please you. I think the voice have been raised loud and clear and admins and mods have taken note. If they do something, great. If not, that's up to them. Whatever happens, it'll not have a direct impact in my life or my happiness, so why would I go around making a fuzz?

Hugs and kisses to everyone. Cheer up and have a great day.

I can't fucking believe we just spent over 7 pages complaining for no change at all. Are you serious? You guys just wanna leave it? No change, don't matter if the threads are still closed or Spark is still a mod? Alright, so be it, I SWEAR I'm not ever participating in any other problem of the forum like this, ever more. It's useless. It does me more harm to try and change the thing than anyone else.

Until the Next One....

Hell NO. I don't swear or promise in vain. I'm tired of this kind of crap. I mean it. Never more.

okay.

Yes, we've made our points, I've made mine more than once. I guess the problem is some people don't like to listen. How about this thread is closed, and the mods make a decision, because we aren't getting along and we are arguing again. It's happened before, and it can happen again. This is no threat, as I have no power here. But I know the mods and admins are fed up by now.

We're here to share and enjoy.

By which tricks? Mean to continue with sharing, when i can't sent message?
You still wait to this (Thread 197206) because that MOD idiot.
Or may be you think that i need all my links explore in public for 'TAPI-STEAL-GUY' grabs.

Everyone try and spend a week without posting here.
It's actually been quite nice, not bothering to feed the fire here.

Watching from the side lines

Correct.
Hence why I haven't been very active lately.

Oh, I've had my couple of screw-ups as moderator here, I'm not without flaws; a few of the users over at the lossless video game soundtrack thread could probably share a few stories, but they would hopefully also state that I tried to the best of my abilities to explain the reasoning behind my actions, when questioned about them.

Nice sentiment, but film section is much more demanding.
Even before I stopped explaining things, people still wanted more. Nothing's ever enough in the film section.

Jessie and Sarah are working on more mods for the film section.
By far the most tasking section on the forum.

But you still aren't getting off the mod job. You just love it, you love to piss us off. That's what keeps you going.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/k9XrZaAJuQyMU/200_s.gif

Zing! another cheap shot by yours truly.

I don't mind the technical aspect of it, but it's people like you and the obvious others that don't make the human relations part acceptable.

Your just as bad ponyo. It would have been easiet to not say anything. Just do not let it bother you.

True.

Soon I won't have to deal with the people.

Nice sentiment, but film section is much more demanding.
I know, hence way I volunteered to help with that section, too. As I've implied, I don't have much stuff to get done over at Video Game Music DLs, moderation-wise, so I might as well help elsewhere. Some users do need to be brought down a peg or two.

Even before I stopped explaining things, people still wanted more. Nothing's ever enough in the film section.
I went through the same thing, in the past. Stop "caring"… For real. Don't create these threads, don't let personal issues dictate your actions. 'Tis only an Internet board, is the administration okay with the way you are handling things? If so, be sure to make that known the next time folks/troublemakers show up, because by then the "blame" can't be put on you. Users will either have to deal with it, if they plan to stick around, or leave.

Jessie and Sarah are working on more mods for the film section.
By far the most tasking section on the forum.
Good to know that. I get the feeling that things wouldn't have degenerated the way they did if Film/TV had a more active moderation ever since its inception; don't you try to fool me into thinking otherwise, Film guys: there was a limit to how much Jessie could have gotten done on his own. You've been pretty much left to your own devices, that, in turn, ensured some of you stupidly lash out every fucking time the moderation doesn't cater to your wishes.

Your just as bad ponyo. It would have been easiet to not say anything. Just do not let it bother you.

You're right.

As for what LSK says I need to admit that he's right, that in other forums, or a any other normal forum per se, people can't complain personally that much to what an admin does or says (I admit doing so, too, I'm not free of any sin) and I'm glad the admins are looking for options or mods to solve the thing. And I personally would like, if new rules would be made in place, so I can read them and be sure not to break them in any form.. since y'all know me and with more strictness, I honestly would rather not be banned if anything happened, though I promise to keep firm if good moderation gets in form.

I would like my point to be taken in mind though, that Sparky is not the most evil (though he has done bad shit out of personal spite but that's different..) and he has done a couple of bad moderating jobs, and some right, and I'd also admit some users have abused him and complained and given him shit for things that weren't his fault, or anything to do with him, or a result of his moderation. Still I'd like the point to be considerated, that he did wrong things. Some users did abuse the lack of moderation, but others were seriously complaining about things that Sparky didn't do right. Let's not blame just the userbase only.

I think the lack of solid rules for a long time contributes to most of anything.

Even the forum rules button at the bottom of the page don't explain much.

A lot is left open to interpretation.

I can admit and agree that there's been a lack of moderation for years and a bunch of bad users have abused of it. Even I sometimes. Sometimes I kept talking bad to mods, defying them, when by rule and in any other forum that thing is not allowed and warrants either a warning, or if you're strict, a ban. When I personally thought Sparky had done a bad thing, the correct thing would be talking to mods or admins personally instead of publicly attacking.

Hey, I'm a bastard but sometimes I reason. :P And shamefully admit my fault when I have to (and realize it)

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Just read this whole thread... pure comedic gold

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Just read this whole thread... pure comedic gold

I do love that gif.

What is it from?

Disney' George of the Jungle. The villain Trips and falls into elephant poo, and these guys laugh at him

I think it's from MadTV (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112056).
Where they parody Survivor (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0239195).

I think it's from MadTV (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112056).
Where they parody Survivor (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0239195).

Nope... Disney's George of the Jungle with Brendan Fraser. The text in the gif, is what the three actually say in the movie.

See here Disney's George of the Jungle: N'Dugo, Kip and Baleto (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqNJp-S6gCA) at 2:55

Said So.

Man Lands In poo, Now Now Comes The Part Where We Throw Our Heads Back In Laughter.

That is so uncanny. It plays out so well like sketch comedy.

Thomas Haden Church in a comedy/family film??? :erm:
This I have to see.

"Bad guy falls in poo, classical element of physical comedy. Now comes The part where we throw our heads back and Laugh. Ready?"

"Bad guy falls in poo, classical element of physical comedy. Now comes The part where we throw our heads back and Laugh. Ready?"

Great Stuff, George Of The Jungle Is So Funny. John Cleese As Ape.
LOL Sat There With His Glasses On.


"I Did It My Way!"

Hi. I know I'm really coming to this rather late and haven't read through everything. I'm not really on any forums and I aways try to be polite but could some one explain what the moderator does?

Moderates disputes between members, ensures rules are followed and generally brings balance to the force.

:awsm:

Moderates disputes between members, ensures rules are followed and generally brings balance to the force.

:awsm:

And may the force be with you. ;)

We shall see. Balance does not normally run in my family :erm:

Nice sentiment, but film section is much more demanding.
Even before I stopped explaining things, people still wanted more. Nothing's ever enough in the film section.

Jessie and Sarah are working on more mods for the film section.
By far the most tasking section on the forum.

I want to be a moderator too. Please tell me, whom should to smoke for recommendations?

Now that's a funny comment.

I want to be a moderator too. Please tell me, whom should to smoke for recommendations?

Wonderful... truly breathtaking... you have some real wit to you and are a prime candidate to be a mod.

^ You Sound More Like Emerpror Palpatine There :erm:

Wonderful... truly breathtaking... you have some real wit to you and are a prime candidate to be a mod.

Thanks. Test which is necessary for the police is too heavy for me. This is the only remaining choice.

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Haha.

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Darth Revan reply

uh man... competition for that place is very intense. I do not know but it seems to me, no matter how hard I tried to sound stupid I will never look like this guy, for example.


Haha.

Only if I could to physically damage brain. But I am prepared to do that because desperately need this job

Darth Revan reply

uh man... competition for that place is very intense. I do not know but it seems to me, no matter how hard I tried to sound stupid I will never look like this guy, for example.

Only if I could to physically damage brain. But I am prepared to do that because desperately need this job

Beg and plead all you want... you won't get to be a mod.

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/raining_david_tennant.gif

Darth Revan reply

uh man... competition for that place is very intense. I do not know but it seems to me, no matter how hard I tried to sound stupid I will never look like this guy, for example.

Only if I could to physically damage brain. But I am prepared to do that because desperately need this job

Lol, are you zvonko in disguise?

@TheSkeletonMan939

NICE TRY. GUY IS INTERESTING BUT NOT ORIGINAL.

I've already posted something like this (addressed only to Sparks) two days ago in PUBLIC.
I never had a reason to hide.
Even when I was on target for all you because TAPO-SHIT-HEAD.

@TheSkeletonMan939

NICE TRY. GUY IS INTERESTING BUT NOT ORIGINAL.

I've already posted something like this two days ago in PUBLIC. I never had a reason to hide.
Even when I was on target for all you because TAPO-SHIT-HEAD.

Simmer down there, Speedy. You're not helping your cause. Or anyone's.

Thanks Amanda.

@TheSkeletonMan939

NICE TRY. GUY IS INTERESTING BUT NOT ORIGINAL.

I've already posted something like this (addressed only to Sparks) two days ago in PUBLIC.
I never had a reason to hide.
Even when I was on target for all you because TAPO-SHIT-HEAD.

https://media.giphy.com/media/XZ39zg4naZ1O8/giphy.gif

Don't know who you are, don't want to.

http://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvga6wARjj1qdku5lo1_250.gif

Second best meme ever.

Second best meme ever.

And... the first?

I bet it's Shia LaBeouf's Just do it.

No, that would be "SQUADALA"

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/youtubepoop/images/2/20/Gwonam2.png/revision/latest?cb=20090626165053

There are lot of shits who bully you here.
I've been bullied by the same shit, constantly any time that time is given to repeat istself.

Why subject me to constantly?
You know who's at fault.
Why not deal with it?
These people only really want to fuck with John Connar's timeline.

Christ, I can make up shit to get them arrested for beliefs they will never understand.
We, as mortal, Stonehenge people ask for little:
Christ, I drank too much coffee and need the shits bad...

Whether someone finally flush the toilet?

Real funny you say so, because I think..

It's time..

you..

let it go.

:facepalm:

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let it go.

Do...

:erm:

you...


WANT TO BUILD A SNOWMAN?

la la da dee daa...,something something Breaking Bad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFQNmeUA-NU).

Real funny you say so, because I think..

It's time..

you..

let it go.

Yeah, because... There is really no problem here anymore. It seems to be done now, but zvonko1510 doesn't want to fucking let it go, he wants to keep this bullshit going. This is what I meant when I said some don't listen. Let It Go.

@Clonemaster15

Whether I created this THREAD? As I can see topic driving continuously, is still not closed, so...


Do...

:erm:

you...

Maybe you're somewhat right. Perhaps You should continue with torture or deletion accounts when some guys here change their minds every 15 minutes.

MY LAST ONE ON THIS TOPIC

Snoman it is.

An army of snowmen.

jesus christ.

I had my ChromaDepth glasses on when i looked at that.
It produced just enough creepy 3D depth through these things.