Squiggly
12-30-2004, 07:48 AM
Is there anyone out there that thinks, as i do, that FFX-2 is absolutely crap compared to FFX?
I bought it feeling excited, thinking that i was buying the sequel to a great game like Final Fantasy X, and what do i get?
Was Square feeling to lazy to make a good game?

Prak
12-30-2004, 08:07 AM
If you wanna find out what people think about it, go look up any of the other whiny "I hate FFX-2" threads.

By the way, I happened to like it. A lot. I also knew exactly what it was going to be like when I bought it because I don't blindly buy things because they have a familiar name on them.

Squiggly
12-30-2004, 12:52 PM
If you wanna find out what people think about it, go look up any of the other whiny "I hate FFX-2" threads.

By the way, I happened to like it. A lot. I also knew exactly what it was going to be like when I bought it because I don't blindly buy things because they have a familiar name on them.
>:O >:O >:O Everyone has the right to an opinion. But there's no need to retaliate like you did here and on the other thread, now is there?

x_Yuna_x
12-30-2004, 01:43 PM
I thought it was a great game, but I agree it wasn't as good as FFX. I still thought it was good though, different because of the 100% completion...it pushes you to try hard at it to get the best ending. Still, storyline wise I think FFX was probably best.

Agent0042
12-31-2004, 12:56 AM
Welcome everyone to The Official "I Hate This Game Thread" Version 3.0.


P.S.: Maybe people retaliated like they did so quickly because you simply called out the game as "crap" without actually giving any decent explanation or good argument as to exactly why you felt said game was "crap." Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but in my opinion, nobody should be entitled to a boring diss without any thought or explanation included with it.

Squiggly
12-31-2004, 01:20 AM
Welcome everyone to The Official "I Hate This Game Thread" Version 3.0.


P.S.: Maybe people retaliated like they did so quickly because you simply called out the game as "crap" without actually giving any decent explanation or good argument as to exactly why you felt said game was "crap." Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but in my opinion, nobody should be entitled to a boring diss without any thought or explanation included with it.
On the other thread i explained myself adequately wnough, anyway, why did you choose the one with the least amount of replies? Did you just feel like it? >:O

Agent0042
12-31-2004, 01:50 AM
I closed it because it seemed like it had gotten out of control.

Toastie!
12-31-2004, 04:33 AM
Why does everyone cry out for sequels, then when one comes the just start bitching about it. Square gave you what you want so who cares!

Squiggly
12-31-2004, 06:35 AM
Why does everyone cry out for sequels, then when one comes the just start bitching about it. Square gave you what you want so who cares!
No they did not. I explained this and so did a few other people on another thread, but that got closed thanks to my dear friend Agent0042.

By the by, i'm not aiming to abuse people, i am discussing the good and bad points of FFX-2. Notice the original title was FFX-2: The Disappointing Sequel? Notice the question mark? Or some of you people to ignorant?

By the way if you didn't care you wouldn't have bothered with a ''whiny bitch'' such as me.

Meltigemini
01-14-2005, 04:22 AM
It was an alright game, but I was pretty disappointed compared to FFX. FFX was a great game though, and it would have bene hard to match. I wasn't too sure about the idea of an FF sequel, and when I played it was actually pleasantly surprised for a while. It got off to a slow and relatively annoying start, but I really started to get into the game later on. And just as I was getting into it... I reached the end. It was way too short story-wise, and too annoying when it comes to doing sidequests for 100% completion.

It was alright overall, but compared to FFX, yes I did think it was a disappointing sequel.

Elex_Knight
01-21-2005, 09:13 AM
Oh I actually enjoyed X-2. I thought it was a bit more fast paced than the others and woooo for the triumphant return of the job system.
The only thing that disappointed me was Bevelle. I mean it is supposedly the holy city of Spira, and its so lack-lustre and cramped. When I first saw it in FFX I imagined a bustling, labrynthine town with all sorts of crazy gismos and bizarre characters. In X-2, the actual 'city' was only what... four screens?
True, Bevelle was the home of the monstrocity that is the Via Purifico, but even that was slightly disappointing as all the floors were randomly generated and repetitious.

MarmotaWeapon
01-21-2005, 03:52 PM
i really dont like the "history", if you can call it that way.......... and WATH THE HELL ARE THE GUYS OF SQUARE (-ENIX) THINKING WHEN THEY CHANGE THE BLITZBALL??!!, in the other side........ the battle sistem its really good, and the dresspheres sistem its good too.... but too easy (i beat the crap out of trema with no prob, and finish the game with 100% its not so hard as its looks)...............

Yeah you are rigth...... I almost lose all my BreiN FunktionZZ wheM i ReallizZe YouuU CanTT PlaI BlitZZZballll..... U? o? ...... WahT?

dreamplayer
01-21-2005, 04:05 PM
I think that it's not as good as the other game(ffx): I think it's the battle system i don't like. It goes too fast or too slow. The�other one in ffx was a lot better. And as Marmota said I think it is ****ing **** that the Blitzball no more is playable (when I say playable I mean that you can steer the players and not just see them swim around).

Agent0042
01-21-2005, 05:14 PM
Elex_Knight --- I was a bit disappointed by Bevelle too. I get the feeling there's a lot more that they just didn't let us access. That was one of the things I was really looking forward to.

Squiggly
01-23-2005, 11:43 AM
Heey, replies! Oh my god! Actual replies. Goodness. And not rude ones! You have made my day. Agent, i want to kiss you and have your babies.

Hex Omega
01-23-2005, 05:51 PM
I like the battle system.fast-paced and high tempo battles.story wise it was very poor imo.

Squiggly
02-04-2005, 12:48 PM
I have almost exactly the same view except I think the battle system is crap too.

Prak
02-04-2005, 12:52 PM
And what's so bad about the battle system?

Squiggly
02-04-2005, 01:05 PM
For me, it isn't comfortable. I will explain myself a teensy bit later but I have to go now. See ya all...why do I bother.

hellfire_1234
02-06-2005, 07:37 PM
i just started playing so ive yet to actually form an opinion. I do however like the battle system, it somehow feels more......organic than the others

OmegaWeapon
02-07-2005, 12:23 AM
I played it a little awhile ago but hated it and didn't play for about a month, but yesterday I picked back up and have been playing all day now. I think this game is awesome, quite possibly better than ten. The only thing I didn't like was the return of the ATB, but i think the dressphere system is way better than the sphere grid, I also like getting a % completed of the game.

NeoAnubis
02-07-2005, 01:45 PM
i thought the game was ok, not nearly as good as x in my opinion but it was still good. i mean, when you get a game like x thats really hard to follow up with a sequal and i think that they did a fairly good job, they tied up issues that were brought up in x, in x-2 and they overall brought the story to a great close. Where, i didnt think, they left to many loose ends.

Seymour butts
02-07-2005, 07:46 PM
I have just started playing it also and the battle system is killing me.
Because it is a new game, i like to go slow and think before i hit, but the fiends just lay
into me.
Can i not change it to the ffx mode in options anywhere?

Agent0042
02-07-2005, 10:42 PM
No, you can't change it. You can pause your game with the Start button though if you need some time to think. You might also wanna do some leveling up, "kick around some easier fiends for a while" as Brother says.

NeoAnubis
02-08-2005, 01:49 PM
yeh the battle system is a bummer. but lvl up and youll eventually figure out its not that complicated.

Seymour butts
02-08-2005, 09:13 PM
I'll keep that in mind, thanks!

CRUNCH BAR
02-08-2005, 09:28 PM
I like the battle system, it feels arcadey to me, I like that feeling.

dark_atom_5
02-09-2005, 12:32 AM
i enjoyed the gsmeplay of ffx2 as much as any final fantays and the story wasnt bad either it was more the fact that some elements just werent final fantasy not that i found them bad it was just sort of different.

Jewels
02-09-2005, 01:42 AM
Good game, I just hate the story. I despised the fact that all along, there was this great big machine and a 1000 year old guy full of hatred. It basically brushed all of FFX aside. It wasn't about Yuna, Sin or Tidus at all whatsoever, none, zilch. Well, it certainly felt that way. It was about people that just so happened to look like Tidus and Yuna. They introduced all these new characters that were absolutely and completely non-existent in FFX, and then suddenly, the complete story is just all about them. Sin and everything during Sin's time was filler material. Well, that's how I feel about it anyway.

The problem with FFX-2, is that it's completely new material added onto something that was already complete. Therefore, things have to be added to the sequel that would let us see more of what happened in the original, but we never saw it in the original itself obviously. A sequel would have to have an extremely good story if it were to tie in effectively with an already complete original. FFX-2 simply doesn't haven't that. If Paine, Baralai and any other of the new characters pivotal to the FFX-2 storyline were present or even mentioned in FFX, it would be better. But since a sequel wasn't initially planned, it simply isn't like that. What's worse is the fact that not only is it completely new material added on, it also made the original unimportant.

Things like Operation Mi'ihen. All along, there was this Den of Woe and the Crimson squad. The real story was behind that. But what we eperienced in FFX was just some sideline thing, and we didn't even see or hear anything about a cave or the crimson squad during FFX.

If Square took some elements of FFX (storywise) and created a new expanded story with it instead of creating and introducing completely new things, it would've been much better. Although it would make FFX more half complete and have fans knowing of a sequel, it would be a good sequel and both games would be equally important and complement one another properly.

That's my take on the story anyway. I liked the battle and dressphere systems. Unique it is.

dark_atom_5
02-09-2005, 04:15 AM
good point i did think omg this is all the same except for a new battle system which kinda isnt new and a big pile of crap that was somehow sorted into a story.

NeoAnubis
02-09-2005, 02:01 PM
I was kinda dissapointed when it didnt have as much to do with the first ffx game as i thought it would but, hey, it was still a great game.

Squiggly
02-11-2005, 10:33 AM
Can someone please explain what they like about dress spheres? It takes the little decimal of a percentage of realism out of battle, something which ffx had.

Prak
02-11-2005, 10:35 AM
Erm... and in just what way did FFX have any realism?

Squiggly
02-11-2005, 10:43 AM
Notice that I wrote:
decimal of a percentage of realism

Prak
02-11-2005, 10:47 AM
And what was that? What bit of realism was lost?

chewey
02-11-2005, 10:49 AM
lol, i think you got yourself in a situation here tidus_auron2

Squiggly
02-11-2005, 10:52 AM
There is always a bit of realism lost, even in games like "the wacky world of sylvester the magic half turtle, half pig, who has a peculiar method of eating asparagus", when the hero or co-heros, alters his/her physical capabilities by changing their tight leather dresses. Thats a bit low...even for a fantasy game.

Prak
02-11-2005, 10:53 AM
In other words, you're talking out your lame little ass and can't back up your bullshit.

Squiggly
02-11-2005, 10:54 AM
In other words, i love cock

Prak
02-11-2005, 10:59 AM
How intelligent. Can the poor little baby not say something halfway intelligent to defend himself? Doctored (and completely falsified) quotes mean nothing from morons who spout bullshit they can't back up.

chewey
02-11-2005, 11:01 AM
PWNED!
Prak-1 TA2-0

Squiggly
02-11-2005, 11:02 AM
What do you mean i can't back it up? Do you really think that dress spheres are more realistic than fixed stats and abiities?

Adamski
02-11-2005, 11:03 AM
I didn't like FFX-2 myself, the game is for girls in my opinion.
You start the game with 3 girl characters, you don't retrieve any others throughout the entire game. You change moves by changing "dresspheres". I didn't really like the mission system either, I'd rather it be like other final fantasy's where you just go through the entire game.
I think SquareEnix tried to make it different from other final fantasy's, but I think they made it too different.

Prak
02-11-2005, 11:03 AM
No, I think neither one bears any resemblance at all to realism.

chewey
02-11-2005, 11:03 AM
Do we humans have stats and abilities that can be upped and downed by magic and items?

Squiggly
02-11-2005, 11:10 AM
No, your right there. But it has MORE realism than ffx-2 system. In ffx, you can sorta imagine that their training their muscles or doing athletics and, basically, gaining experience. In the human way. But frankly, the ffx-2 system reminds me of sailor moon scenes. Tidus auron-1

Prak
02-11-2005, 11:13 AM
You lose 1000 cool points for giving yourself a debate point. Oh wait, your cool points had already gone negative...

And as far physical training goes, that part of the sphere grid is supplanted by the levels, not the dresspheres, which makes every bit as much sense and lacks just as much realism.

Adamski
02-11-2005, 11:14 AM
Final Fantasy is not real, it's a game, so why keep saying this one has more realism then that one.
It doesn't matter, you don't go around fighting giant monsters and casting spells in real life do you.

chewey
02-11-2005, 11:15 AM
barret.wallace, you pretty much said what i said...

Squiggly
02-11-2005, 11:17 AM
lol, good point! And i must say that i'm glad i don't chase dark aeons and such.
Hey, its just a thing that made ffx even better for me. Your a prick, prack.

Prak
02-11-2005, 11:18 AM
Thanks. That always means a lot coming from snotty little brats. :)

Adamski
02-11-2005, 11:19 AM
That would of been slightly humerous, except you spelt Prak wrong.

Squiggly
02-11-2005, 11:22 AM
I care?

Prak
02-11-2005, 11:26 AM
Of course not. It's obvious that you have no desire to seem remotely intelligent.

Adamski
02-11-2005, 11:26 AM
If you wanted to "own" Prak, then yes. It's important you spell someones name right if you're going to attempt to humiliate/embarass or prove someone wrong.

Squiggly
02-11-2005, 11:32 AM
How am I going to be more intelligent if I succesfully type your username without typos.

chewey
02-11-2005, 11:33 AM
because you have made the mistake of typing prack before...

Adamski
02-11-2005, 11:41 AM
How am I going to be more intelligent if I succesfully type your username without typos.
Because it shows us who you are talking to.
If you spell someones name wrong, then that defeats the idea of trying to beat someone in a battle of intelligence.
But then, you'll probably say you wasn't trying to be intelligent, am I right?

Aerith Gainsborough
02-11-2005, 07:26 PM
I closed it because it seemed like it had gotten out of control.

It looks like it's getting out of control again... :laugh:

Agent0042
02-11-2005, 08:04 PM
Yeah, this one too. This isn't the place for everyone's moronic arguments. Closed.

This decision brought to you by Agent0042's "continuing campaign of terror" against tidus_auron.