I usually check this forum via my bookmarks, none of them have worked for a couple of days, but now a friend pointed out to me that you're still up. I'm renewing all my shortcuts, but the archives are all in the wrong order. For the download section, for instance, I have to go to page 127 to view the latest thread titles!

Did something happen?

The site was hacked and various probelms have arisen, the admin are sorting it. That is all we know. Aswell as not search engine and like options...

Pardon our dust.

Hacked, eh? As in idiots disrupting things for the hell of it or something else?

Who knows.

That said, it would be nice to keep us updated on things.. but oh well.

I dont mean updates on her person sit. I mean on repairs to the site

Okay.

I volunteer as tribute to administrate the site.

I volunteer as tribute to administrate the site.

Been meaning to bring this up. None of the bookmarks on my Mac, iPhone, or any other device work. I get a 404 error. So to get here I have to google one of my threads. It's annoying, but at least I can get here from there.

Obviously neither of you know of the experience I have administrating forums, websites and other online
things. I also manage a crew of 200 people in the real world.

You're doubting my abilities too soon.
It was more of a joke as I doubt Sarah would
ever even consider it, but I do know how to run
a website. Just putting that out there, thanks.

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Been meaning to bring this up. None of the bookmarks on my Mac, iPhone, or any other device work. I get a 404 error. So to get here I have to google one of my threads. It's annoying, but at least I can get here from there.

This happens to me when I search through Google. Just returns 404 errors now.

I was joking z i think you would be great.

lol zaralyth

aren't you busy?

When I say I am "busy" it means I have things to do that take priority over the Shrine.
Obviously an Administrative role here would take priority. I have more free time in a day than
I can handle at the moment.

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I nominate Sparktank to be my Deputy

This happens to me when I search through Google. Just returns 404 errors now.

I Google my Oblivion thread. "Oblivion 5.1 ffshrine". Because it's so specific, it's the first result. Brings me directly to the shrine.

Honestly, I'll just sit out and hope for the best, I'd hate to lose all these great contributions on this place because of some random nameless hacker throwing his virtual feces around like a pig.

I Google my Oblivion thread. "Oblivion 5.1 ffshrine". Because it's so specific, it's the first result. Brings me directly to the shrine.

Further inspection reveals that it only 404's in Google if the link leads to a specific reply/post, and not a thread.
For example, if I search your name in Google with site:forums.ffshrine.org and click a link that takes
me to a specific reply of yours...... 404

Further inspection reveals that it only 404's in Google if the link leads to a specific reply/post, and not a thread.
For example, if I search your name in Google with site:forums.ffshrine.org and click a link that takes
me to a specific reply of yours...... 404

Just try my way and it should work though

Sparktank does oaky.

Yeah.. say that to the multiple users who are really bothered by his attitude and how he moderates.

Besides, so much as he thought of me as a massive threat to the forum, really, not to mention he moderates with feelings, not with brain and logic.

I saw someone explode yesterday and finally voice their opinion on how he's become a dictator. Can't say I disagree with it.

I personally have no problems with him, hence why i said he did okay. But thats my opinion.

Hahaha.

You shouldn't be allowed to have feelings on the internet. Why? Because it's the internet. Some people need to grow some thicker skin, seriously.

You all just don't want to be moderated. You're all stupid. Who gives a crap.

Nah, that wasn't my point. I know I don't explain myself well. But moderating, is that, moderating a forum, and you can't let your decisions be done because of judgement or feelings, because sometimes it's not the right thing. Like, for example, imagine you got a friend you like, does something wrong, but he's your friend, so you guide by feelings and don't punish him or tell him he's wrong.

I understand that. And I hate to be a cliche but with great power comes great responsibility. If you're going to be a mod, you have to do it right. I'd be able to reprimand anyone, even a friend.

You all just don't want to be moderated. You're all stupid. Who gives a crap.

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It's not so much that you can't say things, it's just that... Do you know just how well moderated the Film/TV/Classical forum was? Sanico did a good job as a moderator, while she was active; Jessie is an admin and while he does the bulk of the job, he can't obviously keep everything in check...

Bottom line of this? The Film/TV sections was reduced pretty much to a clusterfuck, generally speaking, now that there's someone actively trying to bring order to that mess, users complain.

How does the saying go? Damned if you do, damned if you don't. He's still going easy, I've seen worse, as far as dictatorship goes.

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Or maybe YOU don't want to be moderated because you should know I'm 100% sure if this forum was moderated like it should, you'd be out of this place forever, banned. We do want to be moderated for people like you and situations.
And why would I be out of this place forever? Because that's what you want? In my eyes, you're just as bad as Sparktank, if you're accusing him of what you think he is so bad at, you'd not be any better.

Problem is, he isn't really doing a good job when there's lots of users complaining.
Huh. I'll reveal you a secret, having been myself a Webmaster/moderator on this kind of boards for more than 10 years now:

Usually, when users don't like you, you are doing a good job as a Staff member.

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I never attacked anyone personally, you all say things about my Mother and I take no offense to it at all. I just like to joke around because I think it's funny.

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I never attacked anyone personally, you all say things about my Mother and I take no offense to it at all. I just like to joke around because I think it's funny.

That's where you're dead wrong. I was the one who said "your mom". Don't you dare pin that on everyone else.

I'm sure there's been others, I don't take a tally lol

This thread should close its just distrubing how everyone hates each other, sad really.

This thread should close its just distrubing how everyone hates each other, sad really.

Nah, only how everyone hates one member in particular

Thank you.

I leave for 20 minutes and you guys can't keep the hormones in your pants. Take a chill pill. All of you. It's the Internet. You're all only as strong as the weakest link. Fighting means nothing of you can hide behind a screen.

Probably a 4-chanesque site in the large place that is the internet that's doing shit to Sarah, but I don't know why the fuck we had to get involved. If you want to attack Sarah you don't attack the forum because I'm pretty certain she cares the minimum enough about it. Now it's just we the ones that are most affected for it. And Sarah? Doesn't seem like that.

Let's not play dumb here. To address the elephant in the room, it's pretty obvious why the site got involved. Sarah decided to go on a twitter crusade against 8chan and Gamergate, so naturally people started digging into Sarah's past which lead them to this site. I'd imagine the recent hack, assuming it's real, was an attempt to find more skeletons in the closet. Considering chat logs from this site have been the primary source of dirt that's been dug up, whoever did the hack probably felt they could find even more damning things in deleted threads and PMs.

Which looking at twitter that looks like that was exactly what they were after, Sarah's PMs:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/FFShrine?src=hash

Not saying the hack, if that's actually what it was, was justified. I'm just saying it's pretty obvious why this site has been targeted.

Let's not play dumb here. It's pretty obvious why the site got involved. Sarah decided to go on a twitter crusade against 8chan and Gamergate, so naturally people started digging into Sarah's past which lead them to this site. I'd imagine the recent hack, assuming it's real, was an attempt to find more skeletons in the closet. Considering chat logs from this site have been the primary source of dirt that's been dug up, whoever did the hack probably felt they could find even more damning things in deleted threads and PMs.

Which looking at twitter that looks like that was exactly what they were after, Sarah's PMs:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/FFShrine?src=hash

Not saying the hack, if that's actually what it was, was justified. I'm just saying it's pretty obvious why this site has been targeted.
Heh, me and others recently tried to point out how Sarah has become a liability for the community. Maybe, just maybe, this time the place goes down for good... Metaphorically.

I vote we make ROKUSHO the moderator.

Heh, me and others recently tried to point out how Sarah has become a liability for the community. Maybe, just maybe, this time the place goes down for good... Metaphorically.

Yeah I remember that. With all of that drama plus the piracy/download sections, the site isn't even on thin ice anymore. The ice has broken and it's flailing in the water.

But as I said in that other thread, I really couldn't care less what happens to it anymore.

You shouldn't be allowed to have feelings on the internet. Why? Because it's the internet. Some people need to grow some thicker skin, seriously.


I understand that. And I hate to be a cliche but with great power comes great responsibility. If you're going to be a mod, you have to do it right. I'd be able to reprimand anyone, even a friend.

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You are wrong on a few accounts, dschiv, a moderator doesn't to have to step in "only" when the situation requires it, he/she's also tasked with maintaining the section clean (deleting/closing threads may qualify as such).

In my personal experience, "cases" like Sanico have been rather rare, users are mostly whiny brats who don't understand how the moderator's action may actually help in keeping the forum a bit more organized, in the end... And they let loose insults.

Example... this thread.

Nah, the hack's been /baphomet's work.

At any rate, Sarah is "annoying" them just as much, some measure of backlash is totally deserved.

EDIT:

Not second to anyone with the lack of respect yourself, "fool".

This whole debate is pointless. Lol.

Nah, the hack's been /baphomet's work.

At any rate, Sarah is "annoying" them just as much, some measure of backlash is totally deserved.

EDIT:

You're not second to anyone with the lack of respect yourself, "fool".

And to be completely fair, some of the hacks weren't even hacks. The original logs that were leaked were available on the site for all to see if you just knew where to look. Other leaks came from other members as well. The only two true hacks I know of was the one that was done exploiting SQL to simply prove that the logs did in fact come from ffshrine after Sarah tried to hide them, and this one assuming it's true.

This whole debate is pointless. Lol.

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Respect needs to be earned.
I agree.

Oh, well, instead of "exploding" publicly, as I've read someone state, has anyone thought of... Well... Reporting Sparktank's behaviour to Jessie? If so, was there a response?

Personally, whenever I had troubles with a Staff member's actions in the past, I presented my case to the admin privately, public crusades turn out to be rather harmful.

And to be completely fair, some of the hacks weren't even hacks. The original logs that were leaked were available on the site for all to see if you just knew where to look. Other leaks came from other members as well. The only two true hacks I know of was the one that was done exploiting SQL to simply prove that the logs did in fact come from ffshrine after Sarah tried to hide them, and this one assuming it's true.
Heh, right. Storing that kind of crap on the server, then trying to come off as a victim... Rather stupid, if you ask me.

Part of me has been disgusted by seeing folks go to such lengths, but the other half thinks: "That's deserved".

Nah, only how everyone hates one member in particular

and who would that be?

i personally don't hate any of you guys/girls. i may dislike certain persons for certain things they said, but hate? nope.

... yet none of this would have happened, if the download subforums had remained on Galbadia...

This site WAS a Final Fantasy fan forum, but then the main site hasn't been updated in years and abandoned, and the aforementioned subforums were added to increase membership and traffic. They succeeded in that, but at a detrimental cost to the rest of the forum. When I first joined, no download subforums at all, main site was updated on a regular basis and while there was some arguments, nothing on the scale which runs rampant here nowadays.

You're all only as strong as the weakest link.

Insert Legend of Zelda joke here.

and who would that be?

i personally don't hate any of you guys/girls. i may dislike certain persons for certain things they said, but hate? nope.

If you think I meant you, you're mistaken. I don't hate you, don't know why you'd think that.

This person shall remain nameless, but is a troll who shares the same name as a Marvel superheroine (did I spell that right? The feminine version of a superhero, not the drug heroin lol)

If you think I meant you, you're mistaken. I don't hate you, don't know why you'd think that.

This person shall remain nameless, but is a troll who shares the same name as a Marvel superheroine (did I spell that right? The feminine version of a superhero, not the drug heroin lol)

Lol

I don't think anyone in the film section can ever have a civil argument that doesn't get reported or PM'ed to me.

Look at the After Earth thread that was created and then OP decided not to share.
I was asleep the whole time. I got a PM from OP asking me to close the thread.
By then, Jessie had already dealt with it.

When I see a lot of shit being spewed for no logical reason, I delete those posts so as not to incite any further, useless arguments.
Call it whatever you want. I see a lot of delinquent members using the same words and reacting the same way.
All the cheap shots you can get.

I haven't been a mod for a long time, but in that short time, I've received numerous reports and PM's when threads go downhill.

So when shit starts, I end it before it gets out of hand.

Some people even shouted in capslock in that thread for other to stop.
Not the same people who reported the thread.

The ones that whine the most are the most spoiled. Probably because the previous mod just inactive.
Not forgiving or subtle. Just absent.

I dread seeing a thread with over a dozen pages get a new post.
I have to check to make sure some well known troublestarters haven't said anything that would end up getting reported.

Call whatever you like. You're no different than the very, very, factionally few that have a problem with moderating, censoring, whatever you want to call it.

Fact is, and proven today, you guys just can't be civil in the film download section.
Ever.

I don't even care to deal out warnings. No one reads them.
I don't bother with infractions since people just post them on the forum to get banned.

I don't see a reason for people to have a second chance or a warning when they've been here long enough to know what they're responsible for.

I take days off if there's nothing in my emails for reports or PM's.
This shouldn't feel like babysitting.

Some people just want to watch the world burn.
(and then copy everything and throw it back or some just like to copy other people's words)

If you think I meant you, you're mistaken. I don't hate you, don't know why you'd think that.

This person shall remain nameless, but is a troll who shares the same name as a Marvel superheroine (did I spell that right? The feminine version of a superhero, not the drug heroin lol)

i didn't. i just asked who you mean ;)
and now you said your clue and i still have no clue who you mean. not a comic guy anymore. ;)

Dammit... where's the "Like" button when you need it. DAKoftheOTA and some others (you know who you are) - consider yourself "Liked" :)

Rogue?

I don't like Rogue in the original trilogy. She's a real whimp of a character.
Not even the Rogue Cut for DOFP has she learned to be stronger.
Nothing like the Fox animated series.

Lol

I think I know who DAK is referring to, but it's still not nice to talk about others behind their backs.

Let's not play dumb here. To address the elephant in the room, it's pretty obvious why the site got involved. Sarah decided to go on a twitter crusade against 8chan and Gamergate, so naturally people started digging into Sarah's past which lead them to this site. I'd imagine the recent hack, assuming it's real, was an attempt to find more skeletons in the closet. Considering chat logs from this site have been the primary source of dirt that's been dug up, whoever did the hack probably felt they could find even more damning things in deleted threads and PMs.

Which looking at twitter that looks like that was exactly what they were after, Sarah's PMs:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/FFShrine?src=hash

Not saying the hack, if that's actually what it was, was justified. I'm just saying it's pretty obvious why this site has been targeted.




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I wonder who hacked in the forum, mmm? The search engine is down. The search engine is a handle tool to have. Thanks everyone for your posts here. Each give a pat on the shoulder for me. :))

I think I know who DAK is referring to, but it's still not nice to talk about others behind their backs.



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The dude abides.

You're still a child and proved nothing still.

No one's going to miss you, friend.

Can We Please just Let All This Rest. It Is Pointless.

Friendly Word of Advice, if It Annoys you so much just dont post negative stuff and he will not respond or add him to your ignore list so his posts don't annoy you...

Keep Posting negative comments and such will cause action. :)

Just a suggestion.

A pointless argument is when both parties assert their
position by continuously pointing out each other's wrong-
doings. A lot of blaming and shaming happens in the
absense of calm and understanding.

Shame on you for pointing that out!

A PLAGUE ON BOTH YOUR HOUSES!

Gonna dump hilarious bootleg items ITT now

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I didn't know Harry Potter was Rated R?

I didn't know Harry Potter was Rated R?



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:this:

That Superman One Is Disturbing But Everytime I Look It Cracks Me Up. :D

That Superman One Is Disturbing But Everytime I Look It Cracks Me Up. :D

That's pretty much my goal in life

:this:
Would be a cracking game. A mob family that kills the people in their neighbourhood!! :D

I didn't know Harry Potter was Rated R?

It's a fake - read the synopsis on the back of the cover. :)

It's a fake - read the synopsis on the back of the cover. :)

It's not fake.

It's a fake - read the synopsis on the back of the cover. :)

I know, lol. I was joking. Of course HP isn't an R movie. LOL

I kind of guessed you probably were. Anyway, when I started reading the blurb it reminded me of a surprising cheeky song in American Dad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Ij9Sld-Bo

This thread has become very derailed.

This thread has become very derailed.

Hide Kojiman, lmfao.

Shrek is the Wolverine of cheap bootleg action figure collections: he's on every team.

Whaaa!!?? LOL

I just went through +20 of my accounts with a random password generator :p 16 characters each, what a drag :D

I just went through +20 of my accounts with a random password generator :p 16 characters each, what a drag :D

You might want to add a few extra locks to your front door, too. Can't be too careful.

Jesus, lol.

What Do You Type When You Search This Stuff LOL :laugh:

What Do You Type When You Search This Stuff LOL :laugh:

That one looks half assed.

That one looks half assed.