James P.Sullivan
06-23-2015, 09:22 AM
IN MEMORY OF
James R. Horner
August 14, 1953 – June 22, 2015



I know there are already several threads around with links to various news articles about the recent tragic passing of James Horner, but I feel it is only appropriate that we have one main thread in memory of him and his incredible legacy of work. So I hearby name this thread as the official memorial thread to James Roy Horner, one of the greatest film composers this world has been blessed to have.

Please share your thoughts below. Any discussion of the man and his music is welcomed.

JHFan
06-23-2015, 09:43 AM
All I could say was summed up very simply, so I will just say it again here:

Thank you, James Horner. Thank you.

James P.Sullivan
06-23-2015, 09:50 AM
Just listened to possibly my favourite Horner cue of all time. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1nzSzZmMHs)

Yen_
06-23-2015, 09:50 AM
RIP James Horner. He gave me so much pleasure listening to his scores.

James Horner: Oscar-winning Titanic composer dies in crash - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-33235271)

theodred27
06-23-2015, 10:02 AM
When i think i saw him just 2 months ago happy of the performance for Titanic in London.. It's frightening. I was hoping to hear avatar 2 and 3 but now...

scoringfan
06-23-2015, 10:08 AM
Shocked and stunned. I know Horner has had his critics over the years, but watch any number of his movies and you will see what a great musical dramatist he was. So sad that he was taken before his time.

mauriciobritto2015
06-23-2015, 10:26 AM
Thanks for all, Mr. Horner!!!

oyeluque
06-23-2015, 10:28 AM
Such a tragedy. Very sad news. I am fortunate to have a job that allows me to listen to music all the time, that gives me inspiration and enhaces my creativity. Horner was in my top list, Aliens being possibly one my most beloved scores - and also my favourite film ever. Rest in peace and thank you Mr. James Horner.

whiteshadow2013
06-23-2015, 10:49 AM
R.I.P Mr. Horner. I've spent countless hours working away while listening to your music. Aliens, Star Trek II, Sneakers, & too many to mention. Listening to the magical 'The Spiderwick Chronicles' as I write this. Thank you for inspiring me all these years.

sorei
06-23-2015, 10:53 AM
his scores still give me good moments. not all of his scores, but that is always a matter of taste.
some of my all time favorite scores are his.

what a gift, to be able to create something, melodies, that touch people. Maybe we will hear some of his not-yet-written-music in another dimension of existence.
wherever you are, Mr Horner, thx, and be well.

marcorea1
06-23-2015, 11:04 AM
I like this thread sully. a lot more appropriate and a nice long term thread where we can celebrate his life through music and as a person. such a sad sad day. I usually come into work at around 7am with a couple others and immediately put some rock on etc but today I found it hard to put anything on, even horners own music and for some reason I cannot cry. I feel like I need to but just cant because as im thinking of honrer, I am thinking of all the amazing music he gave movies and listeners and I just smile because that's what horner did to me as a listener. in all the scores I love by him, he never made me feel negative. My feelings were always risen to joy and happiness every single time I put my headphones on and sat in my chair and escape from all my problems in the world. Truly a master of what he did.
I am also writing a piece of music dedicated to horner. it will be a piano piece and I will upload it later on in the day.

JHFan
06-23-2015, 11:04 AM
It's now 3:01 am and I'm just searching for anything to do...I don't want to wake up to a world where he's gone. He's been such an integral part of my life for so long. I usually don't say much about why I am "JHFan", because it's really just so personal to me.

To grieve for someone whom you've never met, but had such a profoundly positive impact upon one's life...

mr_merrick
06-23-2015, 11:34 AM
JHFan, you were the first person I thought of when I heard this terrible news. I woke up at 4am and just couldn't think what to do...then I came here where I knew he would be talked about and remembered. Sadly, everybody I know in my personal life would just say "James who?"...so I'm so privileged to be part of such a wonderful group of people who will make sure James and his work is acknowledged.

My fondest memory is watching 'Glory' in history class and being awestruck by the music...the next day, I collected up all the money I could find and went to HMV in London's Oxford Street to purchase my first ever soundtrack cassette.

I can only repeat what JHFan has put so eloquently...Thank you James.

soundtrekker
06-23-2015, 11:39 AM
Being a trekker, my first encounter with James Horner was, of course, Star Trek the Wrath of Khan, a score who worked perfectly in that movie and enhanced it immensely, and which was a masterpiece in itself, apart from the movie. There were many more scores I enjoyed much in the 80ies (Cocoon was the next, then Brainstorm, Aliens, which had gripping action music, but also very moving quiet parts). He had a unique approach, and many times was able to create soundscapes never heard before. You could critizise him for ripping his own work, but so did other composers, especially when time was too short to meet a deadline in the production schedule.

James Horner was not on my top list of film composers (like Herrmann, Rosza, Goldsmith, Williams), but there are many, many scores I enjoyed very much, and I have a small collection of scores I don't want to miss anymore. Every so often, there were scores he did which were a pleasent surprise, like "House of Sand and Fog" (which is a very relaxing experience!), or "House of Cards", which is also a great, moving piece of work.

elmodoggie
06-23-2015, 11:49 AM
With James Horner's passing we have now lost a huge piece of something in film music that has been in short supply in recent years...heart. He infused his scores with a heart and musicality that many current composers abandoned a long time ago (I'm looking at you Hans Zimmer). Film music needs to get back to being an important part of the film going experience and not just disposable and interchangeable sonic wallpaper. Sadly, with Horner's death I fear that will be a long time coming.

---------- Post added at 05:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:48 AM ----------

"He's really not dead, as long as we remember him."

zartune
06-23-2015, 12:13 PM
A sad day... RIP James Horner - Thanks for the Titanic Soundtracks. Your music will live on forever!
In 1997 Titanic was the soundtrack to my life during my high school career. I remember watching Titanic 3 times when it was released then again when the 3D release came out a few years ago all because of the wonderful music James Horner composed. I cannot think of any other soundtracks he worked on as I am too shocked at the devastating news today.

theodred27
06-23-2015, 12:19 PM
James Horner was amongst my top 4 with Williams James Newton Howard and Zimmer. But Horner was special because he was the one who introduced me to the film music world, making me realize there were people like Hans Zimmer etc who made movies even better through music.
My first Scores were The LOTR and Titanic. The last one was special to me, i saw the movie in 97, again in 2012 with the 3D and i had the chance to see the performance with Horner last april in London. The irony is that this morning i decided to listen to a building panic from Titanic and then i got the news on my phone. It's weird when you think about it, he opened a new world to me when i was 17 in 2007 and now he just said goodbye to me while i was listening to one cue from my very first score.
I ve loved horner as much as I hated him, his music was often very similar but when a theme striked I knew he was the man.
I was hoping he would make his triumphant return with Avatar 2 3 and 4 but it wont happen but it's not that bad after all, his music will live on and on and I ll keep my memories of what he has brought to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Y1TS4l5ts

This performance is taking me to another level now. I hope you will all enjoy it.

Dettlaff
06-23-2015, 12:22 PM
His music will always have a special place with me, especially his score to Willow. I remember watching that film about five times when we rented it when I was a kid. His themes were magical, and took you away to that fantasy realm. Braveheart, Apocalypto, Avatar, Name of the Rose - some of my all-time favorite scores, distinct for their films, and all by this great composer. I anticipated MORE great scores for the upcoming Avatar films. :(

My heart goes out to the families of those directly impacted from the tragedy. May James and the others in the accident rest in peace.

StRuPiE
06-23-2015, 12:30 PM
Listening to this track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv3Kxg56Dak just made me cry again. Ohh, I'm gonna miss you James.

lord71
06-23-2015, 12:37 PM
R.I.P. James Horner
Theank you for all the wonderful Music.
I'm gonna miss you Mr. Horner.
A very sad Day...

Contredesixte
06-23-2015, 12:42 PM
I recently discovered film music on this forum. I understand that great sadness and I feel it too.Many Thanks Mr James Horner !

jorgealexander
06-23-2015, 12:46 PM
A truly great composer
a terrible lost
James Horner we always love your music
and will never foggot you
Angel in Heaven Rest in Peace will miss you
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

ygmmasta
06-23-2015, 01:01 PM
As a mathematician I always thought his score for A Beautiful Mind was particularly inspiring. Devastating news. God rest his soul.

James P.Sullivan
06-23-2015, 01:16 PM

ladybird2020
06-23-2015, 01:25 PM
James Horner was a part of the magic of my youth, The Storm track from American Tail, those ethereal choirs from Willow, return to Vulcan from Star Trek 3, the opening titles from Cocoon to name but a few. He was the sound of cinema magic, and one of the reasons I went into the industry. RIP James Horner.

djdom
06-23-2015, 01:26 PM
Un altro grande Maestro che e' venuto a mancare. Ne rimangono pochi come lui, perche' le nuove leve non sono neanche lontanamente paragonabili ai vecchi Maestri. RIP James.

James P.Sullivan
06-23-2015, 01:33 PM
Un altro grande Maestro che e' venuto a mancare. Ne rimangono pochi come lui, perche' le nuove leve non sono neanche lontanamente paragonabili ai vecchi Maestri. RIP James.

English would be great. Then we can understand and agree with you. :)

Makoy
06-23-2015, 01:34 PM
Thanks a bunch Maestro.
R.I.P.


DAKoftheOTA
06-23-2015, 01:51 PM
Horner is as big to me as Zimmer. I grew up to Casper & Jumanji. Of course Titanic as well, but everyone loves that score. Casper is my Horner Grail. And you always know Horner when you're listening to him. He has that trademark sound. I'm still in denial about it, and I will be for a while. It's how I grieve.

I almost feel as if I lost a family member. This is devastating.

:'(

James P.Sullivan
06-23-2015, 02:28 PM
I never thought an event like this would affect me this much. You're right, DAK. It does feel like losing a family member. Or at least a very close friend. I still can't quite believe it.

pensquawk
06-23-2015, 02:35 PM
Boy, Horner was essentialy present during my whole life, from when I was a kid and I could remember his scores from Casper and An American Tail, to Titanic and Braveheart in my teen years. And then discovering his 80's career was a joy. Despite the many critiques he's had during the years and some more evident than other, it never really bothered me that much as people claimed it to be. If anything, it made me look more into classical music than ever from the works he was inspired from.

His music was one of my main inspirations of choosing film scoring as a hobby, a love for such art. I'll compose a piece in his honor, a tribute for the loss of an incredible composer. Rest in piece Sir Horner, your musical legacy will live on for the future generations of film scoring and in our hearts.

mbidule
06-23-2015, 02:40 PM
Really shocked to learn about James Horner's death. He left too early. What a huge loss of talent for all of us, soundtrack lovers. R.I.P.

DAKoftheOTA
06-23-2015, 02:48 PM
Yeah I mean I really did grow up on his scores. This is the first loss of a composer that's affected me like this. When Goldsmith died 11/12 years ago, I didn't know his work too much. It was only afterwards.

Odd how the past few weeks I've been thinking about doing somewhat of a film edit of Avatar. It'd be a monumental task, but I'd try my very best. And now I really feel like I should. I know JHFan has his amazing edit, but that's more his taste than a film-accurate mix. And I know I will most definitely need his help with it. But I think I should do it, anyone agree with me?

SonicAdventure
06-23-2015, 03:05 PM
I never was that big a fan of James Horner. I was very sad, when Jerry Goldsmith died 11 years ago and to this day, I miss his elegant and grumpy musical voice in new movies. Yet, Horner was part of my musical 'awakening' alongside Alan Menken, Jerry Goldsmith and John Williams. In the early '90s there were only the three 'J's: John, Jerry & James.

But what affects me deeply is reading about the loss endured by others here, on facebook & FSM. I don�t have words to console you and I know that words won�t be enough.


https://youtu.be/o8e9VOG1yk8

bollemanneke
06-23-2015, 03:08 PM
I just can't take this in... Don't even know half of his work and his death has touched me far worse than I had ever expected. I'm prepared for Williams passing away, would even accept it here and now, but this...? No, just... no. My entire week has been ruined. Rip, rip, rip and thoughts going out to his family.

liveorletdie
06-23-2015, 03:10 PM
With James Horner dies one of my heroes. RIP, James.

Soundwave 95
06-23-2015, 03:11 PM
My first memory is from James Horner's Titanic. I was 1 or 2, and sitting on my father's lap, and the music was the ship first leaving the shore. Among the people I have never known, I will miss you one of the most, James Horner.

Pidgeon
06-23-2015, 03:15 PM
There's no need to say that I was no less than shocked by hearing this news. Horner's career speaks by itself, I love many of his works. He'll be missed, this is a great loss in the film score world. May he rest in peace, I'll pray for his family. :(

Rad�Max
06-23-2015, 03:23 PM
looking back several years ago. i could still remember listening to the haunting film score of Titanic that after watching the film, i immediately bought that in a record bar. its a cassette tape, the first among the first soundtrack score i ever bought. to my mind it will always be JW, Silvestri and Jerry Goldsmith who has earned my top spot for my favorite composer but he is right there among my nostalgic favorite. He's a prolific composer who weaves magic into his score and unlike most of todays so called "modern film score" i wouldn't trade having their score with the real geniuses of music of yesterday. and sadly Mr. JH is among those legends who had now left us but would surely continuously amaze us of his "Titanic" contributions to the film score industry.

to my mind he's not altogether gone but his music will continue to live on. among his fans and even fellow composers who surely equally adores his talent and rich contributions in the industry.

thanks for the music you shared to us. R.I.P. JH

phil2013
06-23-2015, 03:40 PM
R.I.P. James Horner
Thank you for all the wonderful Music.
You will be missed, but never forgotten.

dvsgooner
06-23-2015, 03:43 PM
I was shocked when I saw the news, especially since I was just into his music. I have listened for hours to his stuff just the past few days, the only day I didn't was the day of his death, as I was busy with something else. I will surely listen tonight though.

I would say of the scores I have heard from him the Zorro ones are my favourite. And of course a mention to Braveheart which is my most watched movie of all time. RIP.

R3v3rs3
06-23-2015, 03:46 PM
I'm shocked too, today when I woke up I found this on all my daily consultation webs and I could not believe it...

Thanks creating this memorial thread, I did not know him personally but like you said if a person transmits you something with his music for me I consider like a friend, and partly because it is not just music, are many years transmitting sensations (for all of us).

My favorite soundtrack of him is The Perfect Storm (2000) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aViB8BMtzww&list=PLF8F6E920DDA734E5) and this afternoon I will spend 1 hour, 19 minutes and 08 seconds hearing it complete again doing nothing more than listening the soundtrack in my chair in his honor.

Rest in peace my friend, it goes for you.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMvyHKgOMG4

Here we are in the grays of winter
Here we are just me and you
Hold my hand
Let's face tomorrow
Tomorrow still holds out its hands to you

This precious time we've only borrowed
The autumn winds have blown on through
A quiet thought will tell our story
Tomorrow still holds out its hands to you
Yes tomorrow still holds out its hands to you

Here's some wings
They're yours forever
And here's some dreams that will come true
Take these tears to wash away your sorrow
Tomorrow still holds out its hands to you
Yes tomorrow still holds out its hands to you
Yes tomorrow still holds out its hands to you

ojblas2012
06-23-2015, 03:48 PM
Very sad news!! R.I.P. Mr. Horner. I will never forget your outstanding music and I will miss you a lot

ssosmcin
06-23-2015, 04:14 PM
This is a major kick in the gut for me. James Horner was my first film score obsession, the first composer I hunted record stores for music from. Like a number of folks, Star Trek II was my introduction to his work and it remains a brilliant score and one of my favorites. Star Trek III is breathtakingly beautiful and was my first LP purchase at 16 years old. When all my friends were buying Led Zeppelin, ZZ Top and Van Halen albums, I was scouring the soundtrack aisles for James Horner scores, and those are some of my favorite memories. Walking up and down Tower Records buying cassettes of Aliens, Brainstorm, Willow, Gorky Park, Cocoon 2, Red Heat and others, listening to them in the car on the drive home from the store. Wearing them out over the weeks and months, getting my friends sick of music from Star Trek's II and III, Krull, Clear and Present Danger, The Land Before Time, and The Rocketeer. My closest friends knew his name before the rest of the world did. I even got a call from one of them when Horner won the Grammy. His music ignited my passion for film scores.

Over time, his style and my tastes didn't match, so he dropped from #1 to #2, but that was still a rarefied place in my list of composers and it's not a criticism of his work; it's an indication of where my interests were. His music moved me and shaped my feelings. I will always appreciate the years of joy he provided.

soundtrekker
06-23-2015, 04:31 PM
This is a major kick in the gut for me. James Horner was my first film score obsession, the first composer I hunted record stores for music from. Like a number of folks, Star Trek II was my introduction to his work and it remains a brilliant score and one of my favorites. Star Trek III is breathtakingly beautiful and was my first LP purchase at 16 years old. When all my friends were buying Led Zeppelin, ZZ Top and Van Halen albums, I was scouring the soundtrack aisles for James Horner scores, and those are some of my favorite memories. Walking up and down Tower Records buying cassettes of Aliens, Brainstorm, Willow, Gorky Park, Cocoon 2, Red Heat and others, listening to them in the car on the drive home from the store. Wearing them out over the weeks and months, getting my friends sick of music from Star Trek's II and III, Krull, Clear and Present Danger, The Land Before Time, and The Rocketeer. My closest friends knew his name before the rest of the world did. I even got a call from one of them when Horner won the Grammy. His music ignited my passion for film scores.

Over time, his style and my tastes didn't match, so he dropped from #1 to #2, but that was still a rarefied place in my list of composers and it's not a criticism of his work; it's an indication of where my interests were. His music moved me and shaped my feelings. I will always appreciate the years of joy he provided.
Well said, ssosmicin! That's astonishingly close to how I experienced him the years following 1982 (the year, of course, when I was first introduced to him hearing Star Trek II!). His strongest works were in the late 70ies and the 80ies!

ralval80
06-23-2015, 04:33 PM
Just thank you for your music. Rest in peace.

Cpt Rex Kramer
06-23-2015, 05:05 PM
A wonderful composer. He'll be greatly missed. R.I.P. Mr. Horner.

bandtrumpet7
06-23-2015, 05:08 PM
Thank you for creating this thread. I was fortunate to meet him in April and shake his hand, and thank him for his contribution to film music. The impact he has had on my life cannot be measured, and his loss is profound. I completely agree that it's like losing a family member or a friend, despite not knowing him personally, and I'm glad to see others feel this way as well. He was truly an inspiration.

Rest in peace, maestro.

DemonStar89
06-23-2015, 05:14 PM
Absolutely shocking and devastating. I literally am in tears now, the sweet emotional themes of Titanic and Avatar playing in my mind. Mr. Horner was one of the first composers I truly loved. "The Sinking" from Titanic had me hooked from the first second and from then it was a never ending journey into the wealth of his music. He has left a terrible void in our lives that can never ever be filled. My humble thoughts and prayers for him and his loved ones, everybody affected by this terrible tragedy.

Thanks for this beautiful thread, Sulley.

Alex_Chaplin
06-23-2015, 05:36 PM
This is one of the greater losses to the film score community and the cinema world as a whole but without a doubt to his family and friends.

I've been a film score collector since 1988 and while I never considered him an absolute favorite of mine I'd still consider my collection incomplete without Braveheart, Titanic and Legends of the Fall.

Ever since hearing the news last night I was hesitant to play any of his music because it just didn't feel real. I might not be the hugest fan but still feel that loss and I sympathize with anyone who feels the same or more.

Instead of listening to any of my favorites that I listed, I've chosen Avatar as a fitting tribute.
It has a sense of wonder, adventure and radiates like a tribute to life itself.

Farewell, Mister Horner.
I thank you for your music and the places it took me.

lim2403
06-23-2015, 06:24 PM
James Horner holds a special place to me due to Titanic (mainly but not only - Amazing Spiderman was a blessing among others) and a few days shy of the premiere of the Live Performance of the movie here in my country, I will sure think of him the whole time. Thank you for the music Mr Horner.

Lockdown
06-23-2015, 06:52 PM
James Horner was a very kind hearted man who had many different talents that he gave to the world. I am unfamiliar with a lot of his scores, but the ones I do know, I cherish and love. They mean so much to me, and I listened to them constantly, not now knowing that he's gone. He will not be forgotten. He left a legacy of amazing things behind him. And he is up in heaven composing with the greats, Mozart, Beethoven, Vivaldi. Just imagine the music he is making for God. I am going to try and collect all of his scores physically someday if I can. I hope everyone will go out of their way and buy the Southpaw score. I believe it is his last completed score for a film. I could be wrong, but that score will mean so much more to me, and I haven't even heard it. My heart goes out to his family and his friends, he had many, and that makes me feel good that he can leave this Earth loved and truly missed. My heart goes out to JHFan as well, hang in there buddy, listen to his music, it's all we have left of him. And I'm sure it will make you feel like he is still around. We will always have his music to remember him by, you can't say that about many people. I don't know how I could cope if Hans Zimmer, Stephen Endelman, Nathan Furst, or John Williams died. They are probably my top composers, among some others. But, James Horner was one of the most talented composers of our generation, and I am glad that he was able to share with us his talent as long as he did. He was active for over 30 years, and he gave us some of the most beautiful music that I've ever heard in my entire life. Thank you, James.

DjawadiFan
06-23-2015, 07:13 PM
Braveheart - "Freedom" (https://youtu.be/rxZcHUhQNXo)

One of my all-time favorite James Horner moments. This scene is where I learned how powerful music can be.

Thank you, James Horner. Your music will be greatly missed.

cluckyou
06-23-2015, 08:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIeR0-INsRg

HansCastorpMM
06-23-2015, 08:25 PM
Braveheart started my love for film music. to this day i consider it one of the ten best scores ever written. that was just the tip of the iceberg. This is the most i've suffered for anyone who wasn't family...Thank you James for making my life more beautiful...

Ordensritter
06-23-2015, 08:42 PM
Just wanted to say thank you to the man. For "Braveheart", for "Enemy at the Gates", for "The Mask of Zorro", for "Windtalkers", for "Avatar" and many, many more.

JHFan
06-23-2015, 09:35 PM
There are so many more, but here are just a few comments from fellow composers:

From Hans Zimmer:

What a sad day for all of us. A great composer gone - and with him the world will be a little less beautiful, less soulful. We lost an artist that everyday created music that touched our hearts and souls, invented memories for us to share and who's music brought us closer together.
James, we miss you.
Hans

From John Debney:

No words. My sadness is so deep that it is difficult to process. Perhaps God needed someone to help write His music. Godspeed Maestro.

From Michael Giacchino:

You were one of my childhood heroes, James. Thank you for the inspiration, you will be greatly missed.

From David Arnold:

Top 5 James Horner Scores for me : Rocketeer,Aliens,Field of Dreams,Glory,Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan. All amazing and all hugely influential

miniaturo
06-23-2015, 09:38 PM
he was a dreamer, thats I think is what most people find appealing about his music, theres a childish component in the best sense, a sense of awe about life, that comes through his music and makes some of his best works memorable.

Im not surprised he loved to fly so much, his music constantly seems to take off, like we're about to embark in one of those adventures you had as a kid.

He left us his music filled with magic, can't imagine anyone leaving a better testament



There are so many more, but here are just a few comments from fellow composers:

From Hans Zimmer:


From John Debney:


From Michael Giacchino:


From David Arnold:

agree with Arnolds top 5, great choices

ikitbeni
06-23-2015, 10:14 PM
Utter disbelief. His music touched my soul in so many ways. I was just listening to his score from "Testament" the other day. A beautiful piece of work---so lovely and moving. RIP dear man.

WildwoodPark
06-23-2015, 10:15 PM
@Ikitbeni..nicely put.

JudyBarton
06-23-2015, 10:22 PM
Beautiful indeed J.P., almost forgotten about this beauty



Just listened to possibly my favourite Horner cue of all time. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1nzSzZmMHs)

elmodoggie
06-23-2015, 10:24 PM
The three J's formed my own musical sensibilities as well. However Horner, with only the exception of the Star Wars scores, composed the music of my childhood. I discovered Goldsmith a little later on and was floored with his loss, but I find myself unusually devastated with Horner's death if only for the loss of the music we now will not have.

anakinbetrayal
06-23-2015, 10:43 PM
It's simple : Horner was my favorite composer since I'm 7 years old... I will be 30 years in a month exactly and I think he will stay the best for me.

2 months ago I was in London for Titanic Live. A dream became true ! I met him... and enjoyed Titanic score with the orchestre... Definitely it will stay my best memory...
But I don't forget the last 23 years...listening to scores like Braveheart, Casper, Jumanji, Troy...and in particulary Willow which made me love movie scores when I was young. Willow was the beginning of all these, until now, 23 years of passion. It was my very first CD of soundtrack. Horner shared with us a lot of emotions through his music. I needed his music when I felt bad... Something comforting in it...

How I feel when I learned his accident ? Sad ... Very sad... No shame to tell you I cried in the car, listening to Willow, going to work... As I said to a friend today : I think a little part of me disappear with him, because movie scores, as James Horner composed, have made me the adult I am today. Music is and will stay a big part of my life.

R.I.P. James Horner

My Horner Selection :
- Unable to stay, unwilling to leave / A Building Panic (Titanic)
- A gift of a Thistle / Betrayal & Desolation (Braveheart)
- Casper's Lullaby (Casper)
- Elora Danan (Willow)
- The destruction of Hometree (Avatar)

JudyBarton
06-23-2015, 10:43 PM
Beautifully put Lockdown
Especially about his family and his many friends and the fact that you mentioned JHfan as well, because fans are important. I am sure that artists are also very much stimulated by their fans, such as JHfan, to keep on producing what they do best!

Mr. Horner will be dearly missed



James Horner was a very kind hearted man who had many different talents that he gave to the world. I am unfamiliar with a lot of his scores, but the ones I do know, I cherish and love. They mean so much to me, and I listened to them constantly, not now knowing that he's gone. He will not be forgotten. He left a legacy of amazing things behind him. And he is up in heaven composing with the greats, Mozart, Beethoven, Vivaldi. Just imagine the music he is making for God. I am going to try and collect all of his scores physically someday if I can. I hope everyone will go out of their way and buy the Southpaw score. I believe it is his last completed score for a film. I could be wrong, but that score will mean so much more to me, and I haven't even heard it. My heart goes out to his family and his friends, he had many, and that makes me feel good that he can leave this Earth loved and truly missed. My heart goes out to JHFan as well, hang in there buddy, listen to his music, it's all we have left of him. And I'm sure it will make you feel like he is still around. We will always have his music to remember him by, you can't say that about many people. I don't know how I could cope if Hans Zimmer, Stephen Endelman, Nathan Furst, or John Williams died. They are probably my top composers, among some others. But, James Horner was one of the most talented composers of our generation, and I am glad that he was able to share with us his talent as long as he did. He was active for over 30 years, and he gave us some of the most beautiful music that I've ever heard in my entire life. Thank you, James.

DAKoftheOTA
06-23-2015, 10:47 PM
From John Debney:




No words. My sadness is so deep that it is difficult to process. Perhaps God needed someone to help write His music. Godspeed Maestro.

This is the best one. It's so moving. To me, anyway. I'd like to think God did need help writing music. If anyone was needed, it was Horner.

rotane
06-23-2015, 11:06 PM
Thanks for this thread, Sully! This morning, when i read the news, i was gutted; paralized. I'm not one who sheds tears easily when reading the news, but this morning it was tough holding them back. I listened to nothing but his soundtracks today, and it was such a surreal experience. It was the same music it has always been, but it felt a little different. I ended up listening to one of my all-time favourite scores – Avatar – on repeat for the last few hours, and i still can't believe it. Thank you James for the wonderful music, you will be missed!

Marcin24
06-23-2015, 11:10 PM
Very sad news :( Rest in peace, maestro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhOJ1aeztF8

Azetlor
06-23-2015, 11:27 PM
"A great tragedy has struck my family today, and I will not be around for a while. I would like some privacy and some time to heal. We have lost an amazing person with a huge heart, and unbelievable talent. He died doing what he loved. Thank you for all your love and support and see you down the road."


"There is nothing that shaped my movie-going experience more than the musical genius of James Horner. He will live on through the ages."


"I'm so sad to hear about James Horner. He scored the first movie I did, Star Trek 2... Great composer, great person, huge loss."


"We lost a MASTER today. R.I.P. James Horner, your music will live on forever."


"R.I.P. James Horner, thank you for the beautiful music. We will miss what beautiful music was yet to come."


"Brilliant composer James Horner, friend and collaborator on seven movies tragically died in a plane crash. My heart aches for his loved ones."

James was such a lovely person with a huge heart. Everybody he worked with while creating a beautiful score for a movie loved him. Although the above quotes aren't from fellow composers, it just proves what a kind and heartwarming soul he had towards everybody he worked with. I hate to say it again since everybody already has, but R.I.P. James Horner.
Nobody will forget the beauty of your music.

DAKoftheOTA
06-23-2015, 11:50 PM
I would feel much better if his wife and daughter knew about this place and how lost we feel that he's now gone. I hope they both know what an amazing composer he was and the legacy he left behind.

Tesseract5D
06-23-2015, 11:54 PM
I hope they both know what an amazing composer he was and the legacy he left behind.

Hi.

And how much money they lost due to piracy.

James P.Sullivan
06-24-2015, 12:19 AM
I would feel much better if his wife and daughter knew about this place and how lost we feel that he's now gone. I hope they both know what an amazing composer he was and the legacy he left behind.

I feel the same way. I want him/his family and friends to know just how devastated we are. Music is a strange thing. What it does to us is a mystery, but it is one of the most amazing gifts God has given us. A medium so versatile and immeasurably deep, with seemingly endless creative possibilities. And when crafted a particular way it can connect people together in the most incredible way even if they've never met. The only gift greater than the music itself is people who can craft it in those ways. And James was one of them. As many others have said, his music, almost more than any other composer, touches the heart in a unique way. I am heartbroken that we will no longer have the music that he had left inside him to give to the world.

I still can't quite believe he's gone. I'm beginning to tear up again. And those messages from the other composers made me tear up for sure. It's so special seeing this film music community, composers and fans alike, coming together like this to celebrate and mourn the life of one of the most gifted musicians we've known.

I listened to Apollo 13 more than once all the way through today. It will never mean the same agin. But it's not a bad thing. In a sense, it is now more special than it was before. The same with all his music from now on. I couldn't let myself listen to anyone else's music today.

bandtrumpet7
06-24-2015, 01:00 AM
James Cameron's tribute to Horner is truly moving:

James Cameron's James Horner Tribute: "The Orchestra Loved Him" - Hollywood Reporter - The Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/james-camerons-james-horner-tribute-804563)

I've found myself at the edge of tears many times today. To know I'm not alone and that Horner's music has affected so many of us in such positive ways has made the past 24 hours a little better.

hahah123
06-24-2015, 01:13 AM
Reading these homages from composers, directors, actors and so on while listening to Braveheart... We lost such a great composer today. Someone who's inspired us and moved us. He has left behind a legacy and he will never be forgotten.

R.I.P James Horner

James P.Sullivan
06-24-2015, 01:25 AM
Just been listening to more of The Amazing Spider-Man. I think it's James' most underrated score. Truly amazing music. I shall go to sleep tonight with it ringing in my ears. It's now 01:23AM here in Monstropolis, and I'm very tired. It's been an exhausting day, and emotionally very draining.

Night all.

the marvin
06-24-2015, 02:03 AM
Horner has always been my favorite composer, and Braveheart is my favorite score.
Willow, Legends of the Fall, The Rocketeeer, Glory, Krull, Titanic, Zorro, Apollo 13,,, are not far behind.
I'll probably be listening to his scores for the next few days, it's the only way to honor him, through the incredible music he gave us.
He was really one of the greats, and stayed true to his old fashioned way of writing music until the end!
R.I.P. James, you will be missed!

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
06-24-2015, 03:13 AM
Jesus wept.

What a day to come back.
What a time.

I remember seeing The Land Before Time in theaters. I remember the style of music and getting excited over it.
Shit. I don't like this one bit, no sirree.

I know he gets criticized for ripping off other artists and mostly himself, but fuck!

I remember getting Legend of Zorro on CD for my birthday.
It was a combo actually. Got the soundtrack on CD and the movie on VHS. :laugh: VHS. Those were the days.

*sigh* Oh man.
I'm going to dig up Willow.
To this day, I'm still waiting for a proper release of the Nelwyn music.
There really needs to be a CD single of their jam!
It would go complete with The Lord of the Rings (Flaming Red Hair).

I should also dig up Krull.
There's another trip down memory lane.

God bless and goodspeed on his musical journey with the other artists.

I would love to see a mural one day with a lot of the great composers that have passed and left us their grand work.
The Goldsmiths, Wojciech Kilar, John Barry. :sad: And now Horner.

When next I drink, I shall raise my goblet in his honor.

I remember as a kid when I first watched this movie, I fell in love with it just the same as a lot of Horner's other work.
Nothing will ever beat the first time you hear something...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx9DoYAEmsY

Good night, sweet prince.

DAKoftheOTA
06-24-2015, 04:32 AM
A medium so versatile and immeasurably deep, with seemingly endless creative possibilities. And when crafted a particular way it can connect people together in the most incredible way even if they've never met.

Agreed. I never thought I'd physically be meeting someone from the internet simply because of our fondness for music, but that will soon be happening.

I'm listening to Avatar now as I type this up and get into bed. First Horner I've listened to since he passed. First Horner I've listened to in kind of a while, actually. Casper will probably be on the drive back home on Thursday, unless I'm still in my Avatar mood, which I probably will be.

DemonStar89
06-24-2015, 05:43 AM

justancient
06-24-2015, 07:30 AM
Listening to Legends of the Fall right now.

One of the first soundtracks that affected me. I was probably 13 at the time, and never knew that "soundtracks" were even a thing. They were just part of a movie. And then napster came out and I found a track or two. A theme from this movie or that, and my addiction and collection began.

But Legends started it all. It inspired so much. Listening to it now brings backs those memories, and how it fueled creativity in my heart. Made me want to be storyteller. Helped me dream.

This is a huge loss that I can't quite comprehend. But what a legacy he leaves behind. One of the all time greats.

cheldo
06-24-2015, 10:50 AM
Let us honour the man - the great Man - who was James Roy Horner. Rest in Peace, James, and do not fly by with the autumn leafs. You will rest in the hearts of us, who have loved you for your professionality, and in the hearts of those who are your loved ones and loved you in the deepest of ways.

bollemanneke
06-24-2015, 11:10 AM
Lockdown, that was a great tribute! The Titanic Suite on Classic FM gave me goosebumps yesterday evening. I can only listen to the choir in A Building Panic and hope that he's having a great time in heaven, that's what I asked Mother Mary yesterday anyway. Those posts on JWfan of people picturing his last moments both soothe and shock me.

futhark
06-24-2015, 12:45 PM
Ehm... so the first time I heard his music was while I was a little kid watching "Cocoon".
The track "Through the Window" really set the tone (and got stuck in my head for a while), and I thought it was a fascinating movie to watch. Just like E.T. :)

But the score that made me buy a soundtrack from him for the first time was, of course, "Titanic".

On that time I was an adolescent and I remember I went to the cinema with my school class to see the movie. All the kids from my class were there.
Now, I didn't know at that time if it was the story or the score, but there were some moments I let the tears escape (because someone in the room thought it was a good idea to peel an onion, "or something" ;) )

I mean, even the brats in my class shed some tears, which the rest of us noticed after the movie had ended. Of course, the guys who pointed it out got pushed on the side by the brats, but you could say that a bit of that magic that made them shed a tear or two was because of Mr. Horner.

The songs from "Titanic" that really made it a magical experience for me when I watched the film was "Southampton", the beginning of "Hard to Starboard" (0:00-0:20)I just played it on the piano, it really is an quiet, emotional part of the track) and this one right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIaVJTrZLpQ

Much love, Mr.Horner.

StRuPiE
06-24-2015, 12:49 PM
Oh Jesus, I just watched this recent interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvwRnUvwfPo

... and look what James says around the 15:44 mark. Maybe he had some kind of premonition.

avatar_1
06-24-2015, 01:17 PM
On June 22nd the world and the world of film has lost a true legend, for which I wish to farwell, in my opinion, cinema's greatest composer and my favourite musician James Horner. From my childhood, his wonderful music was in the background during my dinosaur adventures with Little Foot and gang finding the great valley and also with Rex and Professor Screweyes, when Dinosaurs came back! From Willow to shrinking kids, and the 90's Universal logo theme, growing up his music was always there. Thank you for giving a friendly ghost a lullaby, and for your beautiful amazing orchestra of sound as a doomed Apollo rocket blasted off for the moon. One which I used to try recording the launch and the end credits with a walkman cassette before I had a cd player. I can never forget the scariest film for me as kid, as you helped give the Aliens their threat & sending chills down the spine to accompany what was on screen that would give me nightmares for days, but is now one of my all time favourite films.
I thank you for bringing a romantic freedom with your music to William Wallace, that still resonates as a true classic amongst film scores.
Every piece of music you wrote for whatever film it may be, you gave the scenes on screen life. Be it the storm of the century taking a fishing boat, Earth's darkest days as a comet approaches, a robotic Robin WIlliams, Chaos and love in wars or twilight and mist for the Legends of the Fall. All the music in the films you worked on, big or small, will always be remembered. I'll miss seeing future films have your name down as the composer, but I'll always have the great ones you did and your collection forever. I thank you for helping bring Pandora to life, and flying past floating mountains in Avatar, one of my favourite films and scores ever. But lastly, for the grand and beautiful trip you took me on many years ago in the cinema that really burnt your name into my soul as the best musician to me. Back then you created what is my most treasured score of all time, still to this day and never ceases to be. You crafted a sweeping classic of haunting vocals, piano and synthesizer along with a grand orchestra that made the ship and her passengers come alive in a time of hope and disaster. I personally thank you for breathing life, love and tragedy to the ill fated voyage of Titanic and the pro founding emotion that your music helped resonate on screen and my own journey through life.
May you rest in peace, and your music live on forever. You will be missed but shall not be forgotten and my ears will never tire of your scores that will play on and on. Thank you for the memories and the music James Horner, 1953-2015.

Tchaikovsky
06-24-2015, 01:20 PM
I want to use this place too, that Sullivan created (thanks, bro!), to pay my tribute to Mr Horner.

When I remember the time when I became a soundtrack-fan, James Horner's music was a big part of it.
First it started with John Williams' STAR WARS and Morricone's ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST in the late 70's and began to grow in the early 80's with Goldsmith, Bernstein and Delerue. And then, in 1983, came KRULL! And BRAINSTORM! Two LPs I listened over and over and over again and loved so much! Then there was GORKI PARK and NAME OF THE ROSE, and from then on it was always exciting to wait for the next "new Horner"!
I loved this period from the 80's and 90's. James Horner wrote such wonderful scores! WILLOW, ROCKETEER, ALIENS, AMERICAN TAIL, COCOON, BRAVEHEART, TITANIC, just to name a few...
(And 2 of my favorites, quiet ones: TO GILLIAN ON HER 37th BIRTHDAY and THE SPITFIRE GRILL.)

It's so sad to know that James Horner is gone, too early and too young!
I'll be thankful for all his music that touched my heart and my soul! - May he fly up there in the sky with his beautiful melodies...

P.S.: I had the pleasure to see Mr Horner live at the HOLLYWOOD IN VIENNA concert two years ago. What a great moment! - Here's a link to a small and very touching clip they created:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D22nRhXbX4&feature=youtu.be

James P.Sullivan
06-24-2015, 01:46 PM
Oh Jesus, I just watched this recent interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvwRnUvwfPo

... and look what James says around the 15:44 mark. Maybe he had some kind of premonition.

I watched selections from that interview yesterday, including the 15:44 mark. It's gutting to watch it now.

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I want to use this place too, that Sullivan created (thanks, bro!), to pay my tribute to Mr Horner.

I had the pleasure to see Mr Horner live at the HOLLYWOOD IN VIENNA concert two years ago. What a great moment! - Here's a link to a small and very touching clip they created:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D22nRhXbX4&feature=youtu.be

It was the least I could do for him.

Thanks for the YouTube link. I've just had another cry. It was very moving.

James (The Disney Guy)
06-24-2015, 02:23 PM
I Had Been Meaning to Post In Here But Yesterday Was A Bit Of An Off Day. Anyway


It Is A Shame Regarding Mr Horner Another Excellent Person Gone. A Man Of Real Talent Who Inspired Many People And Helped Transport People To Another World (Literally With The Score to Avatar)

RIP Mr Horner And Thankyou For The Music


It Felt Fitting to Post This Pic As Its Is One Of My Favourite Films Composed By Horner!


Thanks for Creating This Thread Sulley!
And Thanks To All Who Have Re-Upped & Re-Posted His Classic Ans New Scores This Way He Will Never Be Missed Never Forgotten
"This Ship Will NOT Sink!"

NefMor
06-24-2015, 03:11 PM
Rest in peace, thanks for Krull, Aliens and many other classics. You will be missed.

parakati
06-24-2015, 07:32 PM
I'm still SHOCKED!!!!! Never again a day like that

R.I.P Mr. Horner

Azetlor
06-24-2015, 10:10 PM
You know how people say "Good things happen to good people."?
Pff, yeah ok.

James P.Sullivan
06-24-2015, 11:01 PM
Oh boy, I'm gonna miss him. Still can't really believe it. :(

Azetlor
06-24-2015, 11:44 PM
I can't handle this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f8kTY-8tkU

docrate1
06-25-2015, 12:41 AM
I discovered Horner through Batteries not Included and Rocketeer. And then I got to enjoy Willow, Wrath of Khan, Aliens, Commando or Titanic.

Another tragic loss for film score lovers, just like when Poledouris and Jerry Goldsmith left. on the plus hand, there is probably some really, really good music in heaven right now.

James P.Sullivan
06-25-2015, 01:50 AM
I can't handle this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f8kTY-8tkU

That link was what it took for me to finally hear what all the hype is really about. I've just listened to the entire Titanic soundtrack lying in bed. I obviously already knew the theme song and piano theme, but I had never really listened to the score before. Ever.

It is incredible. Even though the choir is all synth, it is almost indescribably amazing. There's something about it that I can't put my finger on. For now, I'll just call that something "the Horner effect".

scorecrazy69
06-25-2015, 05:05 AM
I just read through the first page of posts. Made me too sad so I can't read anymore. Much like JHFan said, my love of his music was very personal and it's been with me for a long, long time. Star Trek II was my real introduction to his work - I was 12 at the time - and I've been a loyal fan ever since. His scores have been with me through a lot of up and downs. While I'm glad he was doing what he loved when he died, I'm so sad that he had to go now. I was fully expecting another 20+ years of music from him. My condolences to his family and friends, and to all of us who truly appreciated his music. He leaves quite a legacy. I'm glad we have what we do, but we'll all be left to wonder what else there would have, could have, been.

I'm glad I have this place to share these thoughts - I don't have too many friends that are into film scores, so this is a unique and special place for me, the only place I know to hang out where there's a bunch of people who share my interest. It's nice to see the outpouring of thoughts here, but sad. Too sad.

We'll miss you mightily, James.

JHFan
06-25-2015, 08:57 AM
That link was what it took for me to finally hear what all the hype is really about. I've just listened to the entire Titanic soundtrack lying in bed. I obviously already knew the theme song and piano theme, but I had never really listened to the score before. Ever.

It is incredible. Even though the choir is all synth, it is almost indescribably amazing. There's something about it that I can't put my finger on. For now, I'll just call that something "the Horner effect".

FYI:

It was James Horner himself performing the synthesized choir. Ian Underwood and Simon Franglen programmed all the MIDI rigs, while Horner played the parts in himself after recording the sparse orchestral sections.

James P.Sullivan
06-25-2015, 10:35 AM
FYI:

It was James Horner himself performing the synthesized choir. Ian Underwood and Simon Franglen programmed all the MIDI rigs, while Horner played the parts in himself after recording the sparse orchestral sections.

I didn't know that, but it doesn't surprise me. That makes it all the more special. Like when he plays all the solo piano parts in The Amazing Spider-Man. It makes it even more personal.

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Just out of curiosity, how much do we have of Titanic? Just the OST? Or is there an expanded out there?

JHFan
06-25-2015, 10:44 AM
I didn't know that, but it doesn't surprise me. That makes it all the more special. Like when he plays all the solo piano parts in The Amazing Spider-Man. It makes it even more personal.

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Just out of curiosity, how much do we have of Titanic? Just the OST? Or is there an expanded out there?

The OST and the follow-up album "Back To Titanic".

You should check out my customized version of the score, I'd argue it's much better from an audio perspective than the OST.

The complete score is one of the holiest of Holy Grails for years, teased at but never made a reality.

All the specialty soundtrack labels have tried to get it with no success, because Sony Music refuses to license the music citing costs. That's why they just re-released the OST and follow-up album with some source music back in 2012 for the 3D release, titling it an "Anniversary Edition".

Horner's close friend and electronic music arranger / programmer Simon Franglen made an interesting comparison regarding the electronics of "Titanic" to the electronics of "Avatar":

On Titanic, Franglen said he had two tons of equipment - rack after rack of MIDI keyboards and other rigs...on Avatar he used one Mac Pro computer.

theodred27
06-25-2015, 10:46 AM
you have a lot of cues floating around ( i mean by that edits or recreated cues ) I compiled what i could here
Thread 134823

the quality isnt the best but there s no sfx

Now that James is gona you can be sure that the greedy sony officials will release a new edition. A post mortem album a la michael jackson..

Soundwave 95
06-25-2015, 10:58 AM
I just finished a James Horner marathon in my room, under a 2-day lockdown. Nearly everything I could say has already been said here. All I can add is I couldn't sleep when it finally sunk in that he's with Eywa now.

Thank you, thank you James Horner.

James P.Sullivan
06-25-2015, 11:16 AM
The OST and the follow-up album "Back To Titanic".

Wow - just those two? Is there any new score material on "Back To Titanic"?


You should check out my customized version of the score, I'd argue it's much better from an audio perspective than the OST.

Apart from audio quality, how have you customized it?


The complete score is one of the holiest of Holy Grails for years, teased at but never made a reality.

And don't I know it! It's all any Horner fan talks about!! At least now I understand why. :)


All the specialty soundtrack labels have tried to get it with no success, because Sony Music refuses to license the music citing costs. That's why they just re-released the OST and follow-up album with some source music back in 2012 for the 3D release, titling it an "Anniversary Edition".

That's good that other labels have tried to get it. But how in the world would costs be an issue?! It's one of the best selling albums of all time and the highest selling orchestral soundtrack ever produced for heaven's sake!! Costs cannot possibly be the real reason. What is stopping them??

And that's just insulting and mean to rerelease the OST as an "Anniversary Edition" if there's nothing new on it. How utterly despicable. If they don't now release the complete score as a fitting tribute to James and his work (of which Titanic is undisputedly his most popular) I will be very, very angry and upset.


Horner's close friend and electronic music arranger / programmer Simon Franglen made an interesting comparison regarding the electronics of "Titanic" to the electronics of "Avatar":

On Titanic, Franglen said he had two tons of equipment - rack after rack of MIDI keyboards and other rigs...on Avatar he used one Mac Pro computer.

That's quite a crazy comparison! Wow! Shows just how technology has advanced in less than 20 years...

JHFan
06-25-2015, 12:02 PM
Wow - just those two? Is there any new score material on "Back To Titanic"?

In terms of actual film score? One cue: "A Building Panic". The remaining pieces of music on "Back To Titanic" are special arrangements performed by the London Symphony Orchestra, some of the film's source songs, and a piano solo.




Apart from audio quality, how have you customized it?

Well....(spoiler-tagged for space reasons, and this is just a copy of an old post)

TITANIC - Custom Soundtrack (https://mega.co.nz/#!dttjwZaK!ZAE60Q8RfYpmx7tLYnfYF18QxXZqIg4hf8ikvL8 eOD8)

I finally finished the thing, downmixing all six channels from the SACD (like A Beautiful Mind) to 2-channel stereo (which took a LOT of precise editing to achieve, not nearly as simple as it may seem because of an issue with the original recording) but this time I took the extra effort to make the score sound a little larger and fuller as a result, without compromising the overall details in the mix as best as I could. It was a very difficult balance but I am happy with it...for now.

This is a downconversion at 44/16, downconverted from the source 88.2/24 which I upconverted to 96/24 originally.

Apple Lossless of course.

I restructured the tracklist a little bit. It is as follows:

1. Never an Absolution
2. Distant Memories
3. Southampton
4. Rose
5. Leaving Port
6. Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch
7. The Portrait
8. Hard To Starboard
9. Unable To Stay, Unwilling To Leave
10. A Building Panic (edit)
11. The Sinking
12. Death Of Titanic
13. A Promise Kept
14. A Life So Changed
15. An Ocean Of Memories
16. Hymn To The Sea
17. My Heart Will Go On (song)
18. End Credit

For "A Building Panic" I removed the tracked piece from "The Sinking" that was inserted into this cue, it always bothered me and never really fit.


I've also included as a bonus, several cues that eliminate either all the electronics, or just the synthesized choir...and no, this isn't just the center channel on it's own either. They are in a separate folder included. They make for an interesting listen.

James P.Sullivan
06-25-2015, 12:18 PM
In terms of actual film score? One cue: "A Building Panic". The remaining pieces of music on "Back To Titanic" are special arrangements performed by the London Symphony Orchestra, some of the film's source songs, and a piano solo.


Well....(spoiler-tagged for space reasons, and this is just a copy of an old post)

TITANIC - Custom Soundtrack (https://mega.co.nz/#!dttjwZaK!ZAE60Q8RfYpmx7tLYnfYF18QxXZqIg4hf8ikvL8 eOD8)

I finally finished the thing, downmixing all six channels from the SACD (like A Beautiful Mind) to 2-channel stereo (which took a LOT of precise editing to achieve, not nearly as simple as it may seem because of an issue with the original recording) but this time I took the extra effort to make the score sound a little larger and fuller as a result, without compromising the overall details in the mix as best as I could. It was a very difficult balance but I am happy with it...for now.

This is a downconversion at 44/16, downconverted from the source 88.2/24 which I upconverted to 96/24 originally.

Apple Lossless of course.

I restructured the tracklist a little bit. It is as follows:

1. Never an Absolution
2. Distant Memories
3. Southampton
4. Rose
5. Leaving Port
6. Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch
7. The Portrait
8. Hard To Starboard
9. Unable To Stay, Unwilling To Leave
10. A Building Panic (edit)
11. The Sinking
12. Death Of Titanic
13. A Promise Kept
14. A Life So Changed
15. An Ocean Of Memories
16. Hymn To The Sea
17. My Heart Will Go On (song)
18. End Credit

For "A Building Panic" I removed the tracked piece from "The Sinking" that was inserted into this cue, it always bothered me and never really fit.


I've also included as a bonus, several cues that eliminate either all the electronics, or just the synthesized choir...and no, this isn't just the center channel on it's own either. They are in a separate folder included. They make for an interesting listen.

That's interesting. So the special arrangements are just arrangements of previously released cues? Is the piano solo you mentioned "The Portrait"? If so, isn't that an original cue that wasn't on the first album?

Thanks so much for your custom soundtrack! So "A Building Panic" had part of "The Sinking" stuck in the middle? How strange.

Is your custom soundtrack chronological?

JHFan
06-25-2015, 12:33 PM
That's interesting. So the special arrangements are just arrangements of previously released cues? Is the piano solo you mentioned "The Portrait"? If so, isn't that an original cue that wasn't on the first album?

Thanks so much for your custom soundtrack! So "A Building Panic" had part of "The Sinking" stuck in the middle? How strange.

Is your custom soundtrack chronological?

My custom album is chronological, though it's a relative term when placing "A Building Panic", because of how much the score was edited in the film. In this presentation the placement makes a lot of musical sense and is a logical and I say chronological fit.

This is the "Back To Titanic" tracklist with details added by me:

1. Titanic Suite - a 19 minute arrangement of all the Titanic themes, performed by the LSO just for this album

2. An Irish Party in Third Class - the title says it all, this is the big party music performed by Gaelic Storm, and is FULL of dialogue from that sequence from the film.

3. Alexander's Ragtime Band - a source cue performed by I Salonisti.

4. The Portrait - this is indeed a piano solo performed by James Horner, but it is NOT the actual cue heard in the film, as that was actually a demo track. This is a performance made for this album.

5. Jack Dawson's Luck - this is not the Irish music used in the film, but rather two traditional Irish pieces arranged for this album

6. A Building Panic - the lone score cue, not a re-recording or special arrangement.

7. Nearer My God To Thee - a source cue performed by I Salonisti.

8. Come Josephine In My Flying Machine - with minor use of dialogue, this is performed by Enya's sister Maire (Moya) Brennan.

9. Lament - this is another piece made for this album, using a traditional Irish piece.

10. A Shore Never Reached - this is the second of three pieces performed by the LSO for this album.

11. My Heart Will Go On (with dialogue from the film) - this is the bigger "Radio Version" of the song, with a lot of dialogue mixed in.

12. Nearer My God To Thee - a solo violin performance of the piece made for this album, performed by Eileen Ivers.

13. Epilogue - The Deep and Timeless Sea - the third and final piece performed by the LSO for this album. This is a different series of arranged themes from the film.

James (The Disney Guy)
06-25-2015, 01:17 PM
Here Is A Site I Found This Guy Makes Awsome Suites And The Link Takes You To His Collection of James Horner. Hope Someone Can Make Use Of It .

LE BLOG DE CHIEF DUNDEE: James Horner (http://chiefdundee.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/James%20Horner)

James P.Sullivan
06-25-2015, 01:33 PM
Here Is A Site I Found This Guy Makes Awsome Suites And The Link Takes You To His Collection of James Horner. Hope Someone Can Make Use Of It .

LE BLOG DE CHIEF DUNDEE: James Horner (http://chiefdundee.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/James%20Horner)

Thanks for the link! I'll check those out. :)

DAKoftheOTA
06-25-2015, 01:42 PM
LOL ahh the ole' Chief Dundee blog. He's on here. I'm not impressed with the suites, though. They're very choppy/cut & paste

James (The Disney Guy)
06-25-2015, 01:45 PM
Oh. Really Should I Remove It?

James P.Sullivan
06-25-2015, 01:49 PM
My custom album is chronological, though it's a relative term when placing "A Building Panic", because of how much the score was edited in the film. In this presentation the placement makes a lot of musical sense and is a logical and I say chronological fit.

This is the "Back To Titanic" tracklist with details added by me:

1. Titanic Suite - a 19 minute arrangement of all the Titanic themes, performed by the LSO just for this album

2. An Irish Party in Third Class - the title says it all, this is the big party music performed by Gaelic Storm, and is FULL of dialogue from that sequence from the film.

3. Alexander's Ragtime Band - a source cue performed by I Salonisti.

4. The Portrait - this is indeed a piano solo performed by James Horner, but it is NOT the actual cue heard in the film, as that was actually a demo track. This is a performance made for this album.

5. Jack Dawson's Luck - this is not the Irish music used in the film, but rather two traditional Irish pieces arranged for this album

6. A Building Panic - the lone score cue, not a re-recording or special arrangement.

7. Nearer My God To Thee - a source cue performed by I Salonisti.

8. Come Josephine In My Flying Machine - with minor use of dialogue, this is performed by Enya's sister Maire (Moya) Brennan.

9. Lament - this is another piece made for this album, using a traditional Irish piece.

10. A Shore Never Reached - this is the second of three pieces performed by the LSO for this album.

11. My Heart Will Go On (with dialogue from the film) - this is the bigger "Radio Version" of the song, with a lot of dialogue mixed in.

12. Nearer My God To Thee - a solo violin performance of the piece made for this album, performed by Eileen Ivers.

13. Epilogue - The Deep and Timeless Sea - the third and final piece performed by the LSO for this album. This is a different series of arranged themes from the film.

Wow, thanks for all that info. What a pity everything is so complicated with disingenuous track names when it didn't need to be.

Downloading your custom soundtrack now...

Azetlor
06-25-2015, 02:05 PM
At least there's plenty of beautiful music waiting for us in heaven.

abryus1337
06-25-2015, 02:36 PM
I just keep listening to Le Dernier Loup. What a beautiful and perfect score. I just can hardly listen to someone else's music these days. It seems like I've been deaf for such a long time, not appreciating enough Horner's work...

James P.Sullivan
06-25-2015, 04:05 PM
Btw, is it just me, or has anyone else noticed the theme that appears in many of Horners' scores at the most dramatic, emotional moment in each film? It's a theme that's very similar to the main theme from Schindler's List by Williams (it usually starts with a repeated melodic 5th). For example...

Balto, "Heritage of the Wolf" - 1:29 onwards, particularly 1:42. This is the pivotal point in the film and is stunningly beautiful and moving.

Apollo 13, "16m1 Re-Entry & Splashdown" - 2:33 onwards, particularly 2:53. This again is the pivotal, emotional point in the film.

Titanic, "Death to Titanic" - 6:00 onwards, particularly 6:16. From the cue title, and knowing the story, I presume it's a pretty emotional moment.

JHFan
06-25-2015, 05:36 PM
Btw, is it just me, or has anyone else noticed the theme that appears in many of Horners' scores at the most dramatic, emotional moment in each film? It's a theme that's very similar to the main theme from Schindler's List by Williams (it usually starts with a repeated melodic 5th). For example...

Balto, "Heritage of the Wolf" - 1:29 onwards, particularly 1:42. This is the pivotal point in the film and is stunningly beautiful and moving.

Apollo 13, "16m1 Re-Entry & Splashdown" - 2:33 onwards, particularly 2:53. This again is the pivotal, emotional point in the film.

Titanic, "Death to Titanic" - 6:00 onwards, particularly 6:16. From the cue title, and knowing the story, I presume it's a pretty emotional moment.

It has its roots in Gustav Mahler's music, and was also used for a brief moment in "The Perfect Storm", and was eventually the main theme of the film "Enemy At The Gates"

In Titanic you hear it when the stern of the ship is suspended for a few seconds before finally sinking completely.

Perfect Storm features it when the para rescue workers come to the realization that they can't refuel their chopper in the air with the massive wind and rain.


Debate raged over the Internet for years with fans claiming (incorrectly) that Horner "stole" the theme from John Williams and Schindler's List but both have their origins in Mahler.

battleshipyamato
06-25-2015, 05:54 PM
My deepest condolences to the family of James Horner. I am absolutely shocked by the sad news of his death. His music has accompanied me throughout my travels in the path of life, making me feel all kinds of emotions. I can only express a deep gratitude for all his work and composed music. Maestro Horner, I'll miss you very much, Your enormous talent was able to combine four elements in a way where no composer did before to create an unique musical sonority (symphonism, choirs, technology and exotic instruments). Your legacy will be remembered until the end of my days and I hope find your music and talent again down the road. Rest in peace Maestro Horner.

James P.Sullivan
06-25-2015, 06:00 PM
It has its roots in Gustav Mahler's music, and was also used for a brief moment in "The Perfect Storm", and was eventually the main theme of the film "Enemy At The Gates"

In Titanic you hear it when the stern of the ship is suspended for a few seconds before finally sinking completely.

Perfect Storm features it when the para rescue workers come to the realization that they can't refuel their chopper in the air with the massive wind and rain.


Debate raged over the Internet for years with fans claiming (incorrectly) that Horner "stole" the theme from John Williams and Schindler's List but both have their origins in Mahler.

Mahler, you say? Do you know which piece/symphony? I'd be interested to listen to it. So nobody ever asked James directly about it?

I still need to see The Perfect Storm.

JHFan
06-25-2015, 06:06 PM
Mahler, you say? Do you know which piece/symphony? I'd be interested to listen to it. So nobody ever asked James directly about it?

I still need to see The Perfect Storm.

Symphony No. 8, known as the "Symphony Of A Thousand".

James P.Sullivan
06-25-2015, 06:09 PM
Symphony No. 8, known as the "Symphony Of A Thousand".

Brilliant, thanks. I'll look it up. Any idea which movement?

JHFan
06-25-2015, 06:37 PM
Brilliant, thanks. I'll look it up. Any idea which movement?

First movement, "Veni Creator Scriptus".

James P.Sullivan
06-25-2015, 07:08 PM
First movement, "Veni Creator Scriptus".

Thanks! Just listened to it. I heard that theme in various forms throughout. It's good to understand what inspired Horner and Williams, and it's also good to know that nobody stole from anyone! :p

James P.Sullivan
06-25-2015, 10:07 PM
I've always wondered why did James Horner use a syntethized choir and elements instead of keeping all real?

Apparently it was a synth choir because James wanted to avoid a church sound that real choirs usually produce. I thought it sounded kinda strange to begin with, but I really love it now. Particularly because James himself is playing the synth. :)

As for the other electronic sounds, like the pulsating bass line in "Southampton" and also "The Launch" from Apollo 13, that's just there because it's frickin' awesome. Makes my spine tingle every time.

scorecrazy69
06-25-2015, 11:05 PM
Personally I could do without the synth stuff, or would prefer it to be real & organic, but it's never been something that would stop me from listening to anything of his.

What I HAVE been listening to the last couple of days is the new Wolf Totem score and man is it wonderful. It's the most unique thing I've heard from him in awhile and shows, so clearly, just how much greatness he still had in him. Such a huge bummer.

traceelementsobs
06-26-2015, 12:37 AM
Legends Of The Fall is my most beloved Horner score among many greats. A terrible loss. Great thread Sully.

lim2403
06-27-2015, 10:04 AM
Titanic Live was so glorious to hear. We appropriately paid our respects to James Horner before and after the show which he was supposed to attend.

cjm62790
06-29-2015, 08:27 AM
The first soundtrack album I ever owned was Titanic when I was seven years old. James Horner sparked my love of film and television scores. I will always be indebted to him for that.

drhousetapachula
06-29-2015, 08:29 PM
It's really really sad, a tragedy. My first score was Titanic and that score was my begin in film scores, and amazing birthday gift on june 22th, 1998. Now, 17 years later, on my birthday not everything was happy. This one was sad news, because i remember what happened 17 years before. Thanks James Horner for every score you made. As you said before, it wasn't only music, it was art. RIP.

DjawadiFan
06-29-2015, 11:39 PM
Bear McCreary's tribute to James Horner.

Remembering James Horner, Composer to Composer | Playboy (http://www.playboy.com/articles/remembering-james-horner-composer-to-composer)

drhousetapachula
06-30-2015, 12:28 AM
now, the big question is who will score the avatar sequels?
Which composer will select cameron to score the films?

eglia
06-30-2015, 03:07 AM
TITANIC, THE ZORRO FILMS, AMAZING SPIDER-MAN - The man was brilliant, those 4 scores alone show how capable he was of doing something completely different with each genre of film he composed. R.I.P. Mr. Horner.

Azetlor
06-30-2015, 06:24 PM
Now, the big question is who will score the avatar sequels?

I think that deserves a seperate thread.

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That tribute was written beautifully by Mr McCreary, and it brought yet another tear to my eyes...
God dammit.

HunterTech
07-02-2015, 05:31 AM
https://elitesoundtracks.ssl-encrypt.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=563 Is this okay to buy? I want to own at least one score of his.

Lockdown
07-02-2015, 06:17 AM
https://elitesoundtracks.ssl-encrypt.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=563 Is this okay to buy? I want to own at least one score of his.
I wouldn't, Hunter. EliteSoundtracks is known for making bootleg copies of scores (meaning they basically took a leaked session and burned it on CDs)

It is the 'real deal' per say, but it is not legal or an actual official release.

Does that make sense?

HunterTech
07-02-2015, 09:29 AM
I wouldn't, Hunter. EliteSoundtracks is known for making bootleg copies of scores (meaning they basically took a leaked session and burned it on CDs)

It is the 'real deal' per say, but it is not legal or an actual official release.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, I don't know why I asked, especially since I already found the files on these forums. http://www.discogs.com/Christopher-Young-Spider-Man-3-Complete-Motion-Picture-Score/release/2520066 But this still interests me. (It's kind of off-topic, but whatever)

JHFan
07-02-2015, 08:54 PM
I wouldn't, Hunter. EliteSoundtracks is known for making bootleg copies of scores (meaning they basically took a leaked session and burned it on CDs)

It is the 'real deal' per say, but it is not legal or an actual official release.

Does that make sense?

They even took MY CUSTOM of "THE PERFECT STORM" and put it up for sale, so...nope. Not legitimate.

Lockdown
07-02-2015, 11:44 PM
Yeah, I don't know why I asked, especially since I already found the files on these forums. http://www.discogs.com/Christopher-Young-Spider-Man-3-Complete-Motion-Picture-Score/release/2520066 But this still interests me. (It's kind of off-topic, but whatever)
Arranged Records is not a real record label I'm pretty sure.

DjawadiFan
07-03-2015, 01:32 AM
Arranged Records is not a real record label I'm pretty sure.

I remember seeing some custom artworks from Arranged Records.

So they made their own artwork and burned the sessions/bootlegs on CD-r. What's the point?

James P.Sullivan
07-03-2015, 02:07 AM
I remember seeing some custom artworks from Arranged Records.

So they made their own artwork and burned the sessions/bootlegs on CD-r. What's the point?

I very much doubt that "Arranged Records" (the artwork site run by the wonderful NewtonHoward/Luis M. Rojas) is responsible for that site. I imagine whoever is behind it has simply named it after Luis' covers and is using the covers on the scores he sells.

HunterTech
07-03-2015, 03:12 AM
They even took MY CUSTOM of "THE PERFECT STORM" and put it up for sale, so...nope. Not legitimate.

That sucks, but I'll don't see any listings for it on the website. I guess I'll keep listening to your edition of The Amazing Spider Man Soundtrack and go buy something else.

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I remember seeing some custom artworks from Arranged Records.

So they made their own artwork and burned the sessions/bootlegs on CD-r. What's the point?

To try and trick people into thinking what they sell is something of worth? I don't know. I guess I still want the Soundtrack if only because it's not available anywhere else and has one composition not on the sessions for Spidy 3. It also helps that it's more organized to my tastes.

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CDRareScore :: TITLES LIST - (founds: 1767) (http://leolor.cogia.net/?op=dl) Should I be careful of this website also?

JHFan
07-03-2015, 03:37 AM
[/COLOR]CDRareScore :: TITLES LIST - (founds: 1767) (http://leolor.cogia.net/?op=dl) Should I be careful of this website also?

If you really want to buy a score album, just buy one from a legitimate label (La-La Land, Intrada, or something off of Amazon). Why the desire to buy only a bootleg?

HunterTech
07-03-2015, 06:00 AM
If you really want to buy a score album, just buy one from a legitimate label (La-La Land, Intrada, or something off of Amazon). Why the desire to buy only a bootleg?

It's been a weird summer for me so far, so my mind has been all over the place. These forums has provided a lot of goodies, so bootlegs shouldn't matter. We should go back to the actual purpose of this thread, and not focus on other stuff. I'm sorry for bringing up the obvious.

James P.Sullivan
07-03-2015, 06:39 AM
CDRareScore :: TITLES LIST - (founds: 1767) (http://leolor.cogia.net/?op=dl) Should I be careful of this website also?

A few years ago I was fooled into thinking that site sold legit releases of complete scores. Never again. The artwork was printed badly on photo paper, and was different to the artwork listed on the site, the case was cheap, and the disc had a couple of errors on it. They avoided giving me a refund and only sent me another disc. Idiots.

Anyway, yes, back on topic for now I think.

justancient
07-04-2015, 01:49 AM
If anyone is interested, a review of his score for Southpaw is up. Can't wait.

Soundtrack Review: Southpaw | Soundtrack Geek V2 (http://www.soundtrackgeek.com/v2/soundtrack-review-southpaw/)

TheSkeletonMan939
07-04-2015, 01:15 PM
Got back last night from vacation and couldn't believe I missed that Horner had died while I was away. Wrath of Khan is a favorite is mine and I'll miss seeing Horner in the credits of a new film anymore...

Really talented guy.

vareche
07-15-2015, 04:20 PM
No modern american composer had been a such impact in my personnal interest in film music.
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http://www.viz4u.net/v3/img/cover/thumb/Legends%20of%20the%20Fall%20(Original%20Motion%20P icture%20Soundtrack).jpg

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justancient
07-21-2015, 07:12 PM
Read an interesting piece regarding Horner's work with Fuqua on Southpaw and ...

Is It Feasible That Fuqua?s MAGNIFICENT SEVEN Remake Might Have Some Form Of James Horner Score?? (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/72424)