ostgems
05-24-2015, 02:30 PM
i'm sick and tired that tapotkro steals our shares, post them as his owns and he never ever gives any sort of credit.
this sort of behavior needs to stop!

how? simply add a rule that forbids this behavior. if a person doesn't comply, they get a warning. if the person continues doing it, they get banned.

of course adding a mirror after the original shared links are dead, then this should me no problem.

this guy caused so much trouble in the forum, that it's time for a rule change so he finally gets it and if not he gets banned or any other person who does the same over and over.

Electra
05-24-2015, 03:26 PM
This rule would never pass

Leon Scott Kennedy
05-24-2015, 03:33 PM
Trouble?! Are you serious?! How do mirror-links+lack of credit cause trouble for the forum (and not a group of annoyed users)? Objectively speaking, please; I won't have any other crap/nonsense (hurt feelings shouldn't matter in the big picture). I do know that he actually posted download links of "forbidden material", but he also got a short ban for it; what else did he do?

Little reminder:

Thread 98919 - I'll just quote this part:


2. Mirror Linking

We're not really out to stop this, just for people posting mirror links to do it in an already existing thread. This only really applies to newer releases that get posted within a week or two of each other. Not really going to set a time limit on it, if you're reposting something you know someone else already posted, then post it in their thread and just give credit or whatever. The bit rates need to be the same too, if there's a different bit rate, then a new thread would be ok.

Sometimes tapoktro seemingly grabs a lossless share and later puts up a lossy encode in his own thread. The last sentence of the quote above has this behaviour accepted.

At any rate, we have conflicting rules about the issue, or that's the picture I get:

- Thread 98850 - This thread implies getting someone's share and posting it in a new thread — passing it off as our own is rather rude.

- Thread 78302 - Self-explanatory. This thread, on the other hand, could technically make tapoktro's actions legit.


EDIT:

Wait. I get it. Instead of resembling more and more whiny brats, why don't you contact a member of the Staff, which can and is supposed to merge threads+posts offering an already existing encode? What seems to be the biggest issue with tapoktro and the likes will hopefully get resolved in a timely manner (forums aren't monitored 24hrs/7days*week and not every Staffer can actually operate in every forum).


But I'm willing to bet some of you would rather cry, instead of reporting incriminating posts (even through private messages) and help the Staff keep the place a bit clean.

TheSkeletonMan939
05-24-2015, 03:49 PM


Even if tapoktro is a HUGE dick, he has every right to "steal" other people's uploads, unless the original artist is the one doing the original sharing (has that ever happened here?). It's a sharing forum. It's what we do. Or do you have a majestic vision of our hobby? Stealing other people's musical compositions is what we do. In that sense we're every bit as bad as tapoktro.

Just because you have a bone to pick with tapoktro (who doesn't?) doesn't mean that it's all right for you to make a big hissy fit about how "wrong" it is for tapoktro to grab other people's shares and upload it to his own, crappy file hosting service (uploaded.net) so he can try to make a pathetic few bucks.

We have a very nice community here. Everyone else could very easily be doing what tapoktro does, but fortunately we are different from other sharing sites because we have passion for the music we share. tapoktro does not. It's not an outrage that tapoktro does what he does. It's normal. We're just unusually fortunate to not have more bums like him.

And I guess reuploads are out of the question if this rule is implemented. What constitutes as "stealing" a share? What about people like SonicAdventure who would rather not bother reuploading, and trust the masses to do it for them?

We've dealt with tapoktro for years now. We can continue to deal with him in the future. He has a notoriously bad reputation anyway, and more experienced members know to avoid him. Few people use his links anyway; why bother worrying about him?

turner6
05-24-2015, 04:04 PM
i'm sick and tired that tapotkro steals our shares, post them as his owns and he never ever gives any sort of credit.
this sort of behavior needs to stop!

how? simply add a rule that forbids this behavior. if a person doesn't comply, they get a warning. if the person continues doing it, they get banned.

of course adding a mirror after the original shared links are dead, then this should me no problem.

this guy caused so much trouble in the forum, that it's time for a rule change so he finally gets it and if not he gets banned or any other person who does the same over and over.

Unfortunately, you are wasting your breath.
He does it to everyone people who have made their own collection's and scans of the booklets ...
I am afraid it is pointless and I can see why you are upset.
The best way should be to leave this forum and stop sharing the soundtracks ... I choosed to ignore Tapoktro !

Yes, he causes much trouble in the forum, one by one, friends of mine leave this forum because he stolen their works.

At least, I buy the CD's, I rip the CD's, I scan the booklets, it's not an easy work. Tapoktro just steals the result and uses it as his own.
So ? there are much more important things in life than loosing my time with him.

And I think TheSkeletonMan939 is absolutely right :), his answer deserves a "rep" and a "like" :D

James (The Disney Guy)
05-24-2015, 10:16 PM
TBH
I Am Not Backing Him Up (He Has Done It To Me A Couple of Times) But For Example If APerson Cannot Access MEGA Then If He Posts A UPLOADED.NET Link Thats Great For Them. The Only Thing That Annoys People Is He Does Not Credit Them. Which He Does Not Have To There Is A Chance (Though Its Slim) That His Copy Could Be From Another Source/Site.
I For Example Cannot Get Access To (Uploaded.Net) So Await Alternative Links (Ie Mega or Zippy) Others Are The Other Way Round. It Is Annoying It Is Stupid But At The End of the Day So Is Keep Moaning About It And Stressing. Face It Nothing Is Going To Be Done (Jessie And Those Can Only Remove The Links That Officialy Cannot Be Posted IE. Airwolf osts & Varse) So Just Take A Breath And Forget It At The End of the Day People Don't Really Care Who Posts The Link As Long As They Get The Music They Want.

docrate1
05-24-2015, 11:12 PM
i'm sick and tired that tapotkro steals our shares, post them as his owns and he never ever gives any sort of credit.
this sort of behavior needs to stop!

how? simply add a rule that forbids this behavior. if a person doesn't comply, they get a warning. if the person continues doing it, they get banned.

of course adding a mirror after the original shared links are dead, then this should me no problem.

this guy caused so much trouble in the forum, that it's time for a rule change so he finally gets it and if not he gets banned or any other person who does the same over and over.

Are you serious ?

damn. I know Tap is an annoying one, but don't you think you're a bit high and mighty yourself ? We had a similar discussion a while ago in the anime music DL subforum, because most of the OSTs are mirrored on other sites, without credits to the original uploaders. the convo didn't last, because people agreed that running all around the net screaming "I'M THE GODDAMN ORIGINAL RIPPER/UPLOADER" was a bit stupid and that another mirror we didn't have to create was quite practical. yeah, what Tapoktro does is bothersome/annoying. but these files are already the result of a violation of copyrights. In other words you're a pirate refusing to be pirated. which is kinda ironic. If he post something already up'd, just shout a report on his post for double posting or "duplicate thread" or something. making a tantrum like a small kid won't help, mate.

Because at the end of the day, these are numerical files. data. Data you are not the legal owner of. If Tapoktro's takes one of your uploads, re-uploads it and bam, new mirror, where is the goddamn problem ? all that matter is that the data is available.

sorei
05-24-2015, 11:52 PM
@ostgems

I do understand the anger and the frustration.
Like in real life, we do not always get along with everybody, and we cannot always avoid those we do not get along with.

He does not credit the uploaders, ok, yes.
And that is that.
In a private forum you can make rules to ban someone like that. (In the end, you can discuss what rules make sense what rules discourage, too)

Besides him being "impolite", there are no grounds for banning.
Again, I understand the frustration.
Leaving because of him though will lead to those friends of yours leaving lots of blogs or forums, because stuff like that just happens.

Giving it that much importance and weight makes life more difficult. Our immune systems vulnerable.
Way healthier to enjoy the music we have.
:)

Momonoki
05-25-2015, 01:27 AM
Just a reminder that what you're all doing here is illegal ;) -- you don't have the right to complain about such things. It's not yours to begin with. Get over it. Move on. The best thing you can do is to not acknowledge Tapoktro in any way. Make your posts PM share and when he asks for it, don't give it to him.

docrate1
05-25-2015, 11:38 AM
Just a reminder that what you're all doing here is illegal ;) -- you don't have the right to complain about such things. It's not yours to begin with. Get over it. Move on. The best thing you can do is to not acknowledge Tapoktro in any way. Make your posts PM share and when he asks for it, don't give it to him.

that would probably be the best solution if you really really are annoyed by his ways.

of course, the best way to go is still "meh. ignore the fucker".