Here is another one from my collection that I hope you will appreciate. I am not sure if it is complete as there seems to be lots of spaces where a track would go.
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Duped first post.
Follow quotes for re-up, cover, and score sheets.
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Score sheets:
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Editing this post title or deleting this whole post will affect entire thread (since it’s a copy of the first post).
I hope you’ll consider (if you have them) sharing Batman Forever as well. It would probably have everything the LLL album has, stuff it doesn’t have, and probably a lot of good alternates.
thanks 🙂
alien 3 complete anyone 😉
Any Goldenthal is much appreciated…
some of my grails as INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE, SPHERE, MICHAEL COLLINS or DEMOLITION MAN would be even more!
Some people seem to have PUBLIC ENEMIES too for years now, and nobody seems to be willing to share/trade/sell.
Any Goldenthal is much appreciated…
some of my grails as INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE, SPHERE, MICHAEL COLLINS or DEMOLITION MAN would be even more!
Some people seem to have PUBLIC ENEMIES too for years now, and nobody seems to be willing to share/trade/sell.
my eyes hurt….. stop naming those movie…. aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
j/k… great movies and interview + demolition are one of my favs movies 🙂
but i don’t think we’ll ever see those completes, including alien3 or batman forever.
Thank you soooo much! Getting closer to THE SPIRITS WITHIN, I can feel it….
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Your handle makes me think of Fertilizer, and I think I am right. whatever you plant just keeps growing!!
Thank you soooo much! Getting closer to THE SPIRITS WITHIN, I can feel it….
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Your handle makes me think of Fertilizer, and I think I am right. whatever you plant just keeps growing!!
Thank you soooo much! Getting closer to THE SPIRITS WITHIN, I can feel it….
This is my Goldenthal Grail. Thank you so much
I wish I could cross it off my signature, but unfortunately as PheeSees indicated, it is not complete. We are still missing:
-the full version of "Coffee Shop", because the OST cuts the cue in half (plus the alternate heard in the making-of doc)
-the cue heard when Neil enters the Airport Marquis (plus the alternate heard in the making-of doc)
-the alternate 10m1, or "Predator Diorama"
-Hanna Shoots Neil
-the cues that are unique to the previous expanded boot
among other cues
BUT, at the same time it is more music than we had before
I wish I could cross it off my signature, but unfortunately as PheeSees indicated, it is not complete. We are still missing:
-the full version of "Coffee Shop", because the OST cuts the cue in half (plus the alternate heard in the making-of doc)
-the cue heard when Neil enters the Airport Marquis (plus the alternate heard in the making-of doc)
-the alternate 10m1, or "Predator Diorama"
-Hanna Shoots Neil
-the cues that are unique to the previous expanded boot
among other cues
BUT, at the same time it is more music than we had before
Any chance you are able to put names to the cues? I’ve yet to download this yet but I know it’s just slates…
I’ve seen several people mention Alien� by now. You are aware there’s an expanded version and then the complete iso score from the Blu-ray, complete with slates? That’s as close to complete as you’ll get for that one right now
Demolition Man is out. So it’s only matter of time.
Yes I know, but the sound of the sessions would be better than the iso score. Of course I could live witthout it, but it would just be a nice addition to the collection 🙂
I asked Donnor if maybe he knows, but no answer yet. Sinus may be able to help us out, he knows Heat very well. Hell, I’m sure he’ll use this and combine it with his expanded version thus making a complete edit
That’s Michael Mann for you…..
Harry Gregson-Williams had a meltdown after what happened to his material in Black Hat
I would prefer Sphere.
Very cool, PheeSees!
I’ll try to post a quick list tonight, but for starters: 1m1 is the first chunk of the OST track "Heat" sans guitar, and 4m3 is "Waingro Kills The Hooker". 7m7 is the cue heard when Hanna corners Cherito, and 7m7x is an unused alternate.
1m1 Main Title strings
1m2 Hanna and Justine
1m3 part 2 full mix (actually 10m2r3)
2m1
2m1 part 2 DNU (sounds like Refinery Surveillance)
2m3
2m3_ (actually another version of 10m2)
2m4 Neil at Home tk 3
2m4 Neil at Home tk 5
2m6 Hanna’s Condo
3m1
3m5/6
3m8
3m10
3m11, part 1 Drive-In Shoot Out
3m11, part 2 v2 Drive-In Shoot Out
4m1 Forget The Money
4m3 Waingro Kills The Hooker
5m6 Neil Learns About Hanna
6m1 guide demo
7m1 Disabling Alarms
7m7 Bank Robbery part 4
7m7x
8m2/3 Neil Tells Chris Plan
8m4 tk 3
8m4 tk 4
8m6 Charlene To Safe House
8m6 needs moog
8m9
9m1
9m2/3 part 1
9m2/3 part 2 Charlene Waves Off Chris
9m6
10m0
10m0r1
10m0r1 tk 3
10m0r1 tk 5
10m1
10m2 r3 (actually solo orchestra for Drive-In Shoot Out part 2)
10m2r Neil Leaves Eady
10m2r1 p_u
10m2r1 tk 3 with cello and quartet
10m5r2
18m4 (actually 4m6 Hanna/Dead Hooker)
Grungeoplisity
Unfortunately, there is only a snippet of 10m4 (Hanna Shoots Neil) available on the Public Enemies sessions
I was always looking for the music when Neil’s going through the hotel at the end, before he shoots Waingro. But that also seems to be missing here unfortunately…
I was always looking for the music when Neil’s going through the hotel at the end, before he shoots Waingro. But that also seems to be missing here unfortunately…
Yea, that cue is 9m9 Neil At Waingro’s Hotel; I was also pining for that, and the alternate version heard in the DVD documentary
btw I LOVE the string only version of the "Main Title". Absolutely fantatsic and so beautifully melancholic. I prefer this to the original and it’s a great opener for an album of the score 🙂
01. Main Title (Part 1) (take 4, strings only)
02. Hanna and Justine
03. Neil Leaves Eady (revised 3)
04. Refinery Surveillance
05. Shootout (v1)
06. Neil Leaves Eady (original version?)
07. Waingro Escapes (alternate)
08. Neil at Home (tk 3)
09. Neil at Home (tk 5)
10. Hanna’s Condo
11. Shootout (v2)
12. Neil at Home (tk 6)
13. Shootout (v3)
14. Shootout (v4)
15. Drive-In Shoot Out (part 1)
16. Drive-In Shoot Out (part 2 v2)
17. Forget the Money
18. Waingro Kills the Hooker
19. Neil Learns About Hanna
20. Hanna tails Neil (alternate)
21. Disabling Alarms
22. Bank Robbery (part 4)
23. Bank Robbery (part 4) (alternate)
24. Neil Tells Chris Plan
25. Neil Finds Trejo (tk 3) (unused)
25. Neil Finds Trejo (tk 4) (unused)
27. Charlene to Safe House (needs moog)
28. Charlene to Safe House
29. Hanna Leaves Justine
30. Main Titles (Part 2, sans overlays)
31. Charlene waves off Chris (part 1)
32. Charlene waves off Chris (part 2)
33. Shootout (v5)
34. Hanna and Justine in Hospital (take 2)
35. Hanna and Justine in Hospital (revised 1 take 3)
36. Hanna and Justine in Hospital (revised 1 take 5)
37. Hanna and Justine in Hospital (revised 1)
38. Predator Diorama (take 5)
39. Drive-In Shoot Out (part 2, orchestra only)
40. Neil Leaves Eady (revised)
41. Neil Leaves Eady (revised 1 p_u)
42. Neil Leaves Eady (revised 1 take 3 with cello and quartet)
43. Neil Dies (unused)
44. Hanna / Dead Hooker
45. Main Titles (Part 3, sans overlays) (Grungeoplisity)
Holy grail stuff. Thank you, PheeSees.
Are you sure Rumpler? I haven’t seen the movie in a while so I can’t remember, but I seem to recall that cue was either one of the Lisa Gerrard tracks used (Celon, La Bas (full version) or Gloradin) or the Vivaldi cue (Al Santo Sepolcro).
I could be totally remembering wrong and you are totally right, though, LOL
I could be totally remembering wrong and you are totally right, though, LOL
You’re totally right! One mystery solved: I looked up the title on YouTube, and the first cue in that scene is indeed "Al Santo Sepolcro", followed by "Gloradin".
Does anyone know what recording of "Al Santo Sepolcro" was used in the film, or if Goldenthal recorded that piece? It’s not listed in the end credits!
Does anyone know what recording of "Al Santo Sepolcro" was used in the film, or if Goldenthal recorded that piece? It’s not listed in the end credits!
IMDb should list the specific version that’s used
Annnnnd I don’t see it listed :/
Upon Googling "Al Santo Sepolcro Heat" I get this version:
Harry Gregson-Williams had a meltdown after what happened to his material in Black Hat
After Blackhat’s truly staggering lack of success at the box office, everyone associated with it had a meltdown on par with Chernobyl. Fallout was probably as toxic. What the hell happened to the director who gave us Heat, Manhunter, & Collateral?
BTW, Chernobyl means wormwood. Apropos, no?
As for updating my existing release, yes, I’ll do. I kinda feel it as my duty now. ^^
Regarding the non-original music, I don’t really care. I will of course keep the prominent ones (Moby) and film exclusives (Eno) as well as my Moby film edit. But I will not slap the whole bunch of music used (quite a lot! ^^) on a super-duper 3-hour unlistenable mega Heat release. I strongly suggest everyone to seek out the non-original pieces of interest and listen them in the context of their respective original album or original work.
If you however have any suggestions which non-Goldenthal piece I should include (and why), you are most welcome. 🙂
Also, the strings-only version of the opening might as well open "my" album. So, thanks for any input. 🙂
I could be totally remembering wrong and you are totally right, though, LOL
Man, thank you so much for the heads-up. It indeed is Vivaldi!
…listen to this timid build-up of the melody, it’s so similar to Elliot’s music. I had this tune in mind for years. Perfectly spotted for the bathtub scene, where it all comes to a rest and things are put into perspective.
(That being said… sinus, it would be interesting to hear this music in the context of the score, on your new album rendition. :))
Again, to see these sessions appear is unbelievable. So much better than waiting another ten years for an unlikely official release.
The slates announcements at the beginning are funny, they make it so tactile: "This is 10M5 ‘Waingro kills the Hooker’" …^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psn16zksQx8
There is one anecdote concerning Heat sessions: the copyists were late, or there was even a union strike and thus one day the orchestra was booked and had no music to play. Goldenthal then let them play pieces from Wagner’s Ring. Would have been awesome to hear this too. 😀
Regarding the non-original music, I don’t really care. I will of course keep the prominent ones (Moby) and film exclusives (Eno) as well as my Moby film edit. But I will not slap the whole bunch of music used (quite a lot! ^^) on a super-duper 3-hour unlistenable mega Heat release. I strongly suggest everyone to seek out the non-original pieces of interest and listen them in the context of their respective original album or original work.
If you however have any suggestions which non-Goldenthal piece I should include (and why), you are most welcome. 🙂
Also, the strings-only version of the opening might as well open "my" album. So, thanks for any input. 🙂
Sinus, Rumpler, great to hear you’re digging the string only main titles as much as I do. Sinus, would be awesome if you use that one as an openener indeed! 🙂
Interestingly there are now three known version of that cue: string only (seesions), some guitar (album) and full guitar version (end titles). Very interesting…
Apart for the "Neil at Waingro’s Hotel" cue, what ither music by Goldenthal is missing? Not that much, no?
It’s out? So there’s a trace? 😀
I’m curious what about the Sphere sessions though. The score was recorded in two facilites, and only one session was utilized for the ill-fated album, having both sessions would be a special treat.
I would say a good 20 minutes of music is still unreleased:
-1m1 Main Title
-the film version of 1m3, part 2 Armored Van Heist
-3m4
-an alternate version of 3m11 part 1, heard in the making-of doc
-the film version of 3m11, part 2, with extra guitar overdubs and no orchestra
-the film version of "Fate Scrapes"
-6m2 Hanna & Neil Have Coffee (on the OST/promo, the cue is titled Coffee Shop and fades out before the actual ending)
-an alternate version of 6m2, heard in the making-of doc
-9m9 Neil at Waingro’s Hotel (plus the alternate heard in the making-of doc)
-an alternate version of 10m1, heard in the making-of doc
-10m4 Hanna Shoots Neil
-the film version of "God Moving Over The Face Of The Waters"
-2 unused cues heard in the making-of doc, specifically one with steel cello, glass harmonica, and electric guitar
Regarding the non-original music, I don’t really care. I will of course keep the prominent ones (Moby) and film exclusives (Eno) as well as my Moby film edit. But I will not slap the whole bunch of music used (quite a lot! ^^) on a super-duper 3-hour unlistenable mega Heat release. I strongly suggest everyone to seek out the non-original pieces of interest and listen them in the context of their respective original album or original work.
If you however have any suggestions which non-Goldenthal piece I should include (and why), you are most welcome. 🙂
Also, the strings-only version of the opening might as well open "my" album. So, thanks for any input. 🙂
As long as the two Terje Rypdal pieces, Brook’s ‘Ultramarine’ and the two Moby pieces (film versions) are there, then as far as this lowly fan of "HEAT" is concerned, everything else is just icing on the cake.
I have this….complete and utter dislike for anything she’s sung. I never listen to anything she contributed to when I hear scores like "Gladiator". They are skipped every time.
She’s one of the things I love about Gladiator
In addition I’m pretty sure all those "Hanna arrives at Night Club" recordings were actually made for the bank robbery scene. Two of them constitute the latter half of cue "Agitato" on the promo.
I’m also very sure that "Forget the Money" was instead recorded for the night club suveillance scene where we now hear "Ultramarine". It has traces of "Hanna Shoots Neil" in it which would fit, since this is the first moment Hanna sees Neil.
Oh, and "Neil at Home" is actually "Entrada" from the official CD.
In addition I’m pretty sure all those "Hanna arrives at Night Club" recordings were actually made for the bank robbery scene. Two of them constitute the latter half of cue "Agitato" on the promo.
I’m also very sure that "Forget the Money" was instead recorded for the night club suveillance scene where we now hear "Ultramarine". It has traces of "Hanna Shoots Neil" in it which would fit, since this is the first moment Hanna sees Neil.
Oh, and "Hanna’s Condo" is actually "Entrada" from the official CD.
Hey, good point with the robbery scene. As I mentioned I wasn’t sure…
Donnor, thanks for the missing music list.
For me the only real essential cues are "Neil at Waingro’s Hotel" and the unedited version for the coffee shop scene.
And a proper unedited version of the heist without the album crossfade would be cool.
The rest is a nice to have IMO.
but sure, no problem. Just hoping that more material leaks without having to wait another decade
There are lot of alternates of tracks we already have plus some new material which is sometimes very disappointing and without musical development.
IDK IF and HOW I will update my release …. :/
Neil at Home (Entrada)
Hanna’s Condo (Quietude)
Hope this helps.
Fascinating, great job! The different instrument groups really set in effectively…
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Interestingly there are now three known version of that cue: string only (sessions), some guitar (album) and full guitar version (end titles). Very interesting…
Just wanted to update the thread with some notes about this cue:
-The full 1m1 Main Title runs around 4:12 and was never released in its entirety. It can be heard in the second half of the end credits, right after "God Moving Over The Face Of The Waters", albeit shortened. Part of it is heard on the album before segueing into an alternate version of 1m3
-The track "Heat" on the album & Sinus’ edit is a medley of 1m1 and both parts of 1m3, but not their film versions
-The version of 1m1 heard in the sessions only contains the first 2:52 of the cue
Thanks, again!
Mirror, cover, and score sheets quoted in second post (the dupe).
Thanks to everyone for their contribution.
Mirror, cover, and score sheets quoted in second post (the dupe).
Thanks to everyone for their contribution.
I like the idea of adding the sheets to the thread’s title. So people can find the threads with them (although I’ve been thinking on doing a sheets thread).
That sounds better. Like the covers thread.
I’m only doing it with recently bumped threads like today.
I can’t search all the threads and update those.
Anything 2015 and newer gets more attention.
Older threads around 2010-2013 are sketchy and riddled with thousands of posts to even try clean up.
I can sticky it, later.
I can also dupe your first post so you can keep them reserved for any future edits where initial post exceeds character limit.
I’m only doing it with recently bumped threads like today.
I can’t search all the threads and update those.
Anything 2015 and newer gets more attention.
Older threads around 2010-2013 are sketchy and riddled with thousands of posts to even try clean up.
I can sticky it, later.
I can also dupe your first post so you can keep them reserved for any future edits where initial post exceeds character limit.
If you want. I’m busy to add all the links, but I can send some.
Wow, i think i found it, it’s Terje Rypdal’s "Last Nite" from his 1987 album ” Blue ” !
Could anyone please kindly repost a link to the sheet scores?