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Xtreme512
06-01-2015, 04:00 PM
Im posting it here too.

https://mega.co.nz/#!50YSHBgZ!FeLZLwcjSUUzLkMhhjp_4U7FwMxuCK5TA4V2pPS zOV0

Man of Steel Outro (Credits) 48kHz/24-bit - DTS HD Master - 8Ch (Surround) - Lossless

info: EAC3TO for ripping dtshdma 7.1 lossless track in to flac lossless. Then Audacity for splitting out only the outro part w/o any degradation at all. Conclusion is, full quality trimmed track (for credits only) w/o any quality loss at all.

If anyone wants Oblivion isolated score (as you most probably know from the Oblivion threads), just PM me.

Quantum16
06-01-2015, 06:11 PM
Couldn't agree more.

Same. If a certain recording sessions was leaked *cough cough* Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows *cough cough* I would even settle for 128 kbps.

BUT I would of course gladly get 320 kbps if it was offered. :P

DAKoftheOTA
06-01-2015, 06:29 PM
For the record, this is how I received the complete score. Untouched, with the exception of changing the slates from a capital M to a lowercase m. I do have my edit, which is basically the film mix. I combined cues and added 2 source cues as well. Still holding on to it, not ready to share it (if I even want to).

This was not downconverted from FLAC. If I have FLAC, I post FLAC. Hello, all my vinyl rips people? Oblivion? That's 5.1/96kHz. It don't get higher than that.

TheSkeletonMan939
06-01-2015, 06:53 PM
It was leaked! OK, then who leaked it?

MGM.


btw, Im not greedy if you thought that. Im open to share what I got. And I uploaded untouched Oblivion isolated ost to this forum while others refused to reupload.
And I uploaded MoS Outro in original 8ch format untouched, while others insisted on stereo only. ;)

"Refused"? Or no one else was interested to?

Others "insisted" on stereo only because most people only are listening through stereo speakers. Very few have a 7.1 setup. And most 7.1 mixes are upmixed anyway, according to Sparktank. Having a 7.1 mix of something on your computer, unless it's actually hooked up to a 7.1 sound system and not upmixed, is kinda a waste of hard drive space.

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That's 5.1/96kHz. It don't get higher than that.

HDlossless would disagree. :laugh:

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He responded and promised to upload something worthwhile today...wake me from hyper sleep when that happens please.

HDlossless is a special kind of pathetic.

But if he really does upload something "worthwhile" I'll take back everything I ever said about him.

bluerock
06-01-2015, 07:07 PM
Many thanks for this, an outstanding score

so@p
06-01-2015, 08:12 PM
Thanks

korrick
06-05-2015, 06:50 PM
Maybe im blind but can someone point me to the link to download this masterpiece? Thanks!

T-Mann036
06-05-2015, 07:03 PM
For a limited time, here is the link to the Man of Steel complete score. Enjoy!



https://mega.co.nz/#!0Bg2gLjR!jFD56_w3NiUGohrOpdI9Fx3tG4LDxh3i8xaYodU GHj0

Password: rcp

korrick
06-05-2015, 07:08 PM
Thank you so much! Been waiting years for this!

mboy114
06-05-2015, 07:35 PM
Thank you so much! Been waiting years for this!

The movie came out two years ago...

T-Mann036
06-05-2015, 07:40 PM
The movie came out two years ago...

I think he was referring to the complete film soundtrack.

James P.Sullivan
06-05-2015, 09:53 PM
I think he was referring to the complete film soundtrack.

lol the same thing applies... but two years is more than one, so the plural "years" is still technically correct.

Soundwave 95
06-12-2015, 06:36 PM
Thanks a lot T-Mann.

Lost this one and everything else in a hard drive crash. So, can anybody direct me to a good version of Star Wars series and Pixar films?

Raenius
07-06-2015, 07:35 PM
Holy hell...such a long time and now finally he�s here.
I love this music so much.
Best friggin�news in a long time.
Thx so much for the upload, T-Mann and of course DAK for going public first.
I�m going to party this piece SOOOO hard!!!!
:D :D :D :D

germen
07-06-2015, 08:22 PM
thanks T-mann

T-Mann036
07-06-2015, 11:42 PM
You're welcome, everyone.

tintacle
07-14-2015, 10:13 PM
For a limited time, here is the link to the Man of Steel complete score. Enjoy!

https://mega.co.nz/#!0Bg2gLjR!jFD56_w3NiUGohrOpdI9Fx3tG4LDxh3i8xaYodU GHj0

Password: rcp

Thanks to Dak for the upload! :-D

And thanks to T-Mann036 for the re-up :D

angrybuddha
07-14-2015, 10:18 PM
Wow! This is awesome! Thanks Dak and T-Mann036!

Pablo82
07-14-2015, 11:36 PM
I agree!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! :)

Reclaimedhalo
07-15-2015, 09:08 AM
Thank you so much man for re-uploading it man. I really appreciate it.

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Thanks tman. Really appreciate it.

HunterTech
07-30-2015, 05:58 AM
Thanks for the upload and re-upload, DaK & T-Mann036! I find it much easier to listen to scores on their own, since I probably won't remember them from watching most movies, with a couple exceptions. In regards to the idiots who want FLAC only: if it sounds good regardless of format, then be happy! I only keep them for archiving perposes, since I generally listen to m4a.

RyoSaebaKaori
09-08-2015, 08:18 PM
For a limited time, here is the link to the Man of Steel complete score. Enjoy!



https://mega.co.nz/#!0Bg2gLjR!jFD56_w3NiUGohrOpdI9Fx3tG4LDxh3i8xaYodU GHj0

Password: rcp

Thank you for sharing but it seems that the file is not available anymore, can you re-up it ? Or someone can send me a link by PM ?

Thank you !

toxa
09-16-2015, 07:10 PM
same here :(

Jasonjhn8
10-09-2015, 08:46 PM
Been meaning to make this for quite awhile...

(http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/Jasonjhn8/media/Man%20of%20Steel%20Complete%20Booklet.jpg.html)

DAKoftheOTA
10-09-2015, 09:27 PM
^Like

James P.Sullivan
10-09-2015, 09:55 PM
^Like

Drunkenmunkey
10-09-2015, 10:37 PM
^Like

deanoman
10-18-2015, 11:43 AM
Bummer, I must have missed this one!!! If anyone re-ups can they pleeeessseeeeeeeee let me know . . . . .pretty please ?

aoconnor39
10-29-2015, 05:56 PM
I second this, plllllzzzz

DAKoftheOTA
10-29-2015, 06:56 PM
I'll keep you guys posted, unless someone else is able to re-up. But until I get my Mac fixed, it'll have to wait.

Dave999
10-29-2015, 08:01 PM
I'll keep you guys posted, unless someone else is able to re-up. But until I get my Mac fixed, it'll have to wait.

I can reupload this tomorrow morning from work (8PM as I type this). Got the archive ready but uploading to MEGA is sloooooooow at home, for some reason...
Isn't always like that, but it is now, so I can do this, but not right now.

R3v3rs3
10-29-2015, 08:13 PM
update


I'll keep you guys posted, unless someone else is able to re-up. But until I get my Mac fixed, it'll have to wait.

I can reupload this tomorrow morning from work (8PM as I type this). Got the archive ready but uploading to MEGA is sloooooooow at home, for some reason...
Isn't always like that, but it is now, so I can do this, but not right now.
Done: https://mega.nz/#!GIclyZ5L!rqOxRh34CzgW1e0bTu1V6eK529HvqZyD2KTdPxmKLNw

* Tracks: 51
* Size: 424 MB
* Format: MP3

Dave999
10-29-2015, 08:33 PM
update

Done: https://mega.nz/#!GIclyZ5L!rqOxRh34CzgW1e0bTu1V6eK529HvqZyD2KTdPxmKLNw

* Tracks: 51
* Size: 424 MB
* Format: MP3

ok, nvm, THANKS :)

Logan XI
11-13-2015, 10:48 PM
update



Done: https://mega.nz/#!GIclyZ5L!rqOxRh34CzgW1e0bTu1V6eK529HvqZyD2KTdPxmKLNw

* Tracks: 51
* Size: 424 MB
* Format: MP3

Thanks for the re-up and thanks to DAKoftheOTA for the original upload. :)

TAK The Voyager
12-08-2015, 11:48 PM
update



Done: https://mega.nz/#!GIclyZ5L!rqOxRh34CzgW1e0bTu1V6eK529HvqZyD2KTdPxmKLNw

* Tracks: 51
* Size: 424 MB
* Format: MP3

Thank you!

reppa35
12-09-2015, 01:32 AM
Thanks for for the share.

jamesb12
01-05-2016, 10:36 PM
thankyou

cynical2k
01-13-2016, 11:09 PM
This is amazing, thank you!

microdrive69
01-13-2016, 11:30 PM
Thanks a lot

fredfx007
01-15-2016, 09:37 PM
Really great thanks a lot!

Xtreme512
01-16-2016, 12:57 AM
http://www.watertower-music.com/news/newsstory.php?title=561133
https://soundcloud.com/watertowermusic/bvs-their-war-here-90secclip

It is coming! :)

Lockdown
01-16-2016, 12:57 AM
Does anyone have BvS sessions?

James (The Disney Guy)
01-16-2016, 12:58 AM
Does anyone have BvS sessions?

Lol

TheSkeletonMan939
01-16-2016, 01:00 AM
I wish :sad: :p

Looking forward to the OST tho'

HDlossless
01-16-2016, 01:08 AM
Is this available in FLAC?

Lockdown
01-16-2016, 01:08 AM
Yes

James (The Disney Guy)
01-16-2016, 01:09 AM
Is this available in FLAC?


TheSkeletonMan939
01-16-2016, 01:14 AM
Is this available in FLAC?

You never quit, do you?

HDlossless
01-16-2016, 01:25 AM
Yes

wow... please upload it to MEGA and share the link!

TheSkeletonMan939
01-16-2016, 01:26 AM
:facepalm:

Read between the lines of Lockdown's comment, HDlossless.

PonyoBellanote
01-16-2016, 01:27 AM
HDlossless, 908 comments, all begging for music.

Honestly, most of the times I think he's just a troll. Who wants music. But he asks in a trolll way

James (The Disney Guy)
01-16-2016, 01:28 AM
wow... please upload it to MEGA and share the link!



HDlossless
01-16-2016, 01:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwR0oL2LkVA




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwR0oL2LkVA

TheSkeletonMan939
01-16-2016, 01:39 AM
God dude, for someone who bitches about quality all the time you could have at least linked us to a video with more pixels.

danielsan
01-18-2016, 03:27 AM
woooop. Thanks alot.


listening to it now... amazing. Thanks op and to the person who re-upped.

WeaponXI
01-18-2016, 05:27 AM
Can I please have a link for this ?

schwulehupe
01-18-2016, 12:41 PM
Wooohoooo!
Thank you very much!!! :-)

toetke1
01-20-2016, 05:40 PM
can i have a link for this release please?

DAKoftheOTA
01-21-2016, 02:34 AM
Why are people so stupid? (Thread 186626)

Lockdown
01-21-2016, 02:50 AM
It'd be stupid for someone to look through 23 pages for working links if the one in the OP doesn't work.

HunterTech
01-21-2016, 03:11 AM
Why are people so stupid? (Thread 186626)

I wouldn't call them stupid, just lazy.

DAKoftheOTA
01-21-2016, 03:17 AM
I wouldn't call them stupid, just lazy.

Perhaps you're right

Jimmythenut
01-21-2016, 10:07 AM
Massive thank you for this title.
Love the score can't wait to listen to all of this!

abryus1337
01-21-2016, 11:07 AM
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SpaceMarin
01-22-2016, 07:30 AM
Thanks so much!

Ken0h
02-07-2016, 08:32 PM
Any hope for a high-rez FLAC release, or am I getting my hopes up...?

Edit: Never mind...I read the posts backwards. Anyways, thanks, and much RESPECT. :)

DAKoftheOTA
02-07-2016, 08:48 PM
Duh

lizbeth007
03-20-2016, 11:45 AM
WOW no way !!! holy shit yes holy shit!!! another amazing post.... really thank you so much for this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xoxoxoxox

Tchong
03-29-2016, 05:25 AM
Thx for this treasure.

greycobalt
03-29-2016, 10:28 AM
Thanks for the post! Hopefully this will get me out of my BvS-induced stupor. I adored MoS and the soundtrack, and was so looking forward to BvS, but I feel like Junkie XL had waaaaay too much to do with the album - there's hardly any Zimmer in it.

christo1802
03-29-2016, 02:39 PM
have you this score in FLAC ???

Fuzzyfoot
03-30-2016, 09:13 PM
Amazing upload! Thanks Dak, you are awesome!

DAKoftheOTA
03-30-2016, 11:27 PM
No people, I do not have this in FLAC. Stop asking.

macdev
03-30-2016, 11:51 PM
This is awesome, thanks!

greycobalt
03-31-2016, 12:22 AM
DAK, do you have this in FLAC? ;)

Actually, I was wondering if you have a different resolution version of the gorgeous artwork for this...for some reason it's out of alignment with all my other iTunes art. My OCD is destroying me!


Reclaimedhalo
04-07-2016, 04:48 AM
Since the share doesn't come with tags, I tagged them myself according to the track list included in the original download.

So here's a Mega link for the score with tags - https://mega.nz/#!fQ4zwIpb!l2nvDJT503ZZz2ajGT0bXGLIoYa7iFUtdfbHyfdsP8s

DAKoftheOTA
04-07-2016, 07:05 AM
Had to have been somebody who untagged it and then re-upped it as such. Cause all the original files I uploaded were tagged.

JHFan
04-07-2016, 07:28 AM
Just rewatched this film two nights ago. Appreciated this score more now than before. The best parts of BvS are references to this score. Do like both films very much (unlike the...majority?)

metatron3
04-07-2016, 07:32 AM
thanks so much !

GOLDSMITHNUT
04-07-2016, 08:02 AM
Thanks man!

Reclaimedhalo
04-07-2016, 03:08 PM
Had to have been somebody who untagged it and then re-upped it as such. Cause all the original files I uploaded were tagged.
I downloaded them from your post directly, and they didn't have tags.

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Just downloaded it again from your posts link, and same thing, no tags.

DAKoftheOTA
04-07-2016, 11:53 PM
I downloaded them from your post directly, and they didn't have tags.

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Just downloaded it again from your posts link, and same thing, no tags.

Interesting. Which post? Cause there's a few from me. My original MEGA link (which was constantly deleted) had them all tagged. I always tag my sets before uploading.

Reclaimedhalo
04-08-2016, 01:38 AM
Interesting. Which post? Cause there's a few from me. My original MEGA link (which was constantly deleted) had them all tagged. I always tag my sets before uploading.

From the link on the #1 post on this thread, which is your original post, the link right under the album image, and above the track list image.

lorddsp
05-12-2016, 08:51 AM
thanks a lot

Jokerslb
05-27-2016, 05:23 PM
Thanks

abrokenremedy
07-10-2016, 10:42 PM
Thank you!

Argolat
08-15-2016, 01:15 PM
Thank you!!

Ottaviani_DZ
08-24-2016, 09:16 PM
Thank you very much for this amazing share :D

Imperivm
08-25-2016, 01:03 AM
Thanks a lot DAK! :D

bondo321
12-28-2016, 10:32 PM
Does anyone still have a good link for this? Seems to be dead :/

AmanoChan
12-28-2016, 11:56 PM
Hi DAK,

I just wanted to ask, if this score is still provided? :)
I would really understand if not, but I'm very interested in this one.

So if someone else could help me to get this, I'd greatly appreciate it!
(Just in case if this is no longer shared by DAK, of course :D)

Another "MUST HAVE" I missed... How typical. XD

Thank you ... and thank you Jasonjhn8, for your beautiful cover! ^^

DAKoftheOTA
12-29-2016, 12:49 AM
I don't have it uploaded, and after the MILLION times I had to keep re-upping, I quit. I'm sure someone else has it or that you can find it elsewhere, like tehparadox

AmanoChan
12-29-2016, 12:54 AM
I don't have it uploaded, and after the MILLION times I had to keep re-upping, I quit. I'm sure someone else has it or that you can find it elsewhere, like tehparadox

Yes, I had already suspected something like that...
All right. Many thanks for the information. ;)

Imperivm
12-29-2016, 12:23 PM
Here's a re-upload: https://ulozto.net/!axVDTLtu2/manofsteelcomplete-prowler-rar
It's from tapoktro aka relworp aka PROWLER, but it's DAK's original files and the links works well (you can use JDownloader if it's too slow).

AmanoChan
12-29-2016, 01:26 PM
Here's a re-upload: https://ulozto.net/!axVDTLtu2/manofsteelcomplete-prowler-rar
It's from tapoktro aka relworp aka PROWLER, but it's DAK's original files and the links works well (you can use JDownloader if it's too slow).

You are amazing!!! Thank you so much, Imperivm! :)
And thanks also for a fast download link! ^^ I appreciate it very much!

Lord Milutin
12-29-2016, 02:14 PM
Here's a re-upload: https://ulozto.net/!axVDTLtu2/manofsteelcomplete-prowler-rar
It's from tapoktro aka relworp aka PROWLER, but it's DAK's original files and the links works well (you can use JDownloader if it's too slow).

Hey! I was wondering if this is in flac or mp3? :)

Imperivm
12-29-2016, 02:37 PM
Hey! I was wondering if this is in flac or mp3? :)

Mp3. The complete score in lossless hasn't yet leaked.

Angelkat
01-04-2017, 03:07 AM
Thanks for share it Imperivm.

Dave999
01-04-2017, 08:41 AM
I don't have it uploaded, and after the MILLION times I had to keep re-upping, I quit. I'm sure someone else has it or that you can find it elsewhere, like tehparadox

lol our resident-stealer has it, ofc ;)

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Here's a re-upload: https://ulozto.net/!axVDTLtu2/manofsteelcomplete-prowler-rar
It's from tapoktro aka relworp aka PROWLER, but it's DAK's original files and the links works well (you can use JDownloader if it's too slow).

You know on his own website he sometimes posts a score and then credits it by saying "thanks to prowler" ? My God, the idiocracy never ends :D

Imperivm
01-04-2017, 11:22 AM
You know on his own website he sometimes posts a score and then credits it by saying "thanks to prowler" ? My God, the idiocracy never ends :D

I'm totally aware of that. Consider that before discovering the Shrine, I downloaded many many scores from his links. Now that I'm in here I obviously download them here, but his links never die. Especially those on ulozto.net. That's why I posted that link.

xanther10
01-04-2017, 06:54 PM
Thanks!

bollemanneke
02-05-2017, 12:07 AM
Any chance of a working link? And is it me or does MEGA hate this score lol

AmanoChan
02-05-2017, 12:22 AM
Any chance of a working link? And is it me or does MEGA hate this score lol

Thread 186626 :)

it2007
04-05-2017, 03:31 AM
Thanks to the original uploader, and the many reups by others.

oripanil1
04-05-2017, 09:51 AM
Thanks for finding this!

worldcup94
04-15-2017, 05:50 PM
Thanks!!

nicmen
04-15-2017, 08:20 PM
Thank you very much for sharing.

vvvital18
05-05-2017, 10:27 PM
Hello!!! Please, send me the lossless link!

Imperivm
05-06-2017, 03:33 PM
Hello!!! Please, send me the lossless link!

There's no lossless to be shared. It hasn't leaked yet.
For an mp3 link, look at post #594

Aadipie
05-21-2018, 02:39 PM
It says file link unavailable I think u need to re upload thanks in advance

Aadipie
06-19-2018, 02:43 PM
Pls reupload

DAKoftheOTA
06-19-2018, 02:59 PM
It says file link unavailable I think u need to re upload thanks in advance

Pls reupload



There's no lossless to be shared. It hasn't leaked yet.
For an mp3 link, look at post #594

DAKoftheOTA
07-19-2018, 03:42 AM
New link, get it before some jackhole reports it

Giveall96
07-26-2018, 07:37 PM
Thanx for a new link.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-26-2018, 10:05 PM
Thanks for the re-up. I needed to re-acquire this since I'm in a new place with a new system.

it2007
07-29-2018, 09:36 PM
Grabbed it awhile back, but chiming in to say thanks again.

Every time I hear this watershed score, I can only imagine what wonders Junkie could've done incorporating Hans' material in Justice League. Elfman's score doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.

DAKoftheOTA
07-29-2018, 10:02 PM
That fucking trash of a score never even made it onto my hard drive, and it never will. Not even the complete score that’s apparently going around. Elfman’s best days are behind him. It’s sad, he used to be one of my favorites.

Rigby
07-29-2018, 10:33 PM
I wonder if JXL had done some demos/mock-ups before the whole shakeup. Assuming that he had been working on the project for a while he may have even done a sketchbook. It would be interesting to hear his take versus Danny Elfman’s score.

And personally I don’t mind the Danny Elfman version as a stand-alone thing. It’s entirely inappropriate for the film though.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-29-2018, 11:32 PM
Elfman’s best days are behind him. It’s sad, he used to be one of my favorites.

:this:

he used to be like an indie game developer then went full No Man's Sky at E3.

To simulate his music today, just put a ball on a string and flail it around in front of a cat.
That cat is conducting the orchestra.
Now you have Elfman Shenanigans.

Quantum16
07-29-2018, 11:36 PM
The "cat" metaphor doesn't really work imo because that implies chaotic composition - he's not really chaotic, he's just dull. Unimaginative. Derivative.

And conducting != composing. adjusts nerd glasses

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-29-2018, 11:38 PM
Yes, we all know your opinion.

Sunshower
07-30-2018, 04:09 AM
To simulate his music today, just put a ball on a string and flail it around in front of a cat. That cat is conducting the orchestra. Now you have Elfman Shenanigans.

I think he only used that "kooky, random and off-the-wall" music in his early days as a gimmick to get recognition. Nowadays, unless its a Tim Burton movie, his scores are very generic.

HunterTech
07-30-2018, 04:30 AM
Whenever Zimmer uses "kooky, random and off-the-wall" sound for some scores, he's called a genius for it. Take Elfman in his prime, and it's just for "recognition." Okay then.

My issue with a lot of the JL score hate is that as a few here have already mentioned: it isn't anything particularly special. I like it okay for what it is, but I do acknowledge that it's nowhere near what Elfman used to be. And yet, it's apparently the worst thing ever? Get outta here with that talk. It's too standard to be anything abhorrent, and all it makes me think is that we're still bitter about Junkie XL being fired. Who, by the way, seems to only really have Mad Max under his belt of stuff people liked, so I'm not sure if he really would've done a better job as well.

My issue with JL is really just in the fact that the Williams Superman theme is used at all. It's not because it's out of place for the character, considering you actually could've sold me on it, should the time have been taken to establish it. It's just the fact that, well, how many films was it in? Five flicks. And how many times is the big theme at the end of MoS used? Once. We seriously have missed the opportunity to make remind people that this is his new theme, which I think perfectly embodies the character in its own way. Don't care at all if you used the Elfman Batman theme, but the Williams Superman theme had its time in the spotlight. Hopefully, whenever they decide to do MoS 2, they at least play it once in the flick.

And Spark: I wouldn't have expected the guy who has chewed Quantum out for no real reason to know what his thought process is.

DAKoftheOTA
07-30-2018, 04:55 AM
Not only did the old Superman theme get used, but Elfman just had to throw in his Batman theme. That was inappropriate and completely uncalled for. Zimmer didn’t use any of his themes for TDK in BvS, he created an entirely new score.

princessjordan
07-30-2018, 06:18 AM
How is that inappropriate or uncalled for? The Elfman Batman theme is perfect to the character. I like the Superman theme's use but really think the Krypton themes would work far better for that air of mystery and inside the ship, saving the main theme for the final triumphant battle.I cannot for the life of me recall Zimmer's stuff from MOS or BVS. Except Wonder Woman's new material.I personally feel Williams' theme encapsulates the character better and more completely than any other one out there. The MOS and BVS characterizations are universes away from the true character. Thinking that JL version could represent a turning back to the truer brighter character the Williams theme is wholly appropriate. That it is not Zimmer's does not make it "uncalled for".

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Ah, but please note I do not really like JL's score. I don't hate it either. It's just not something I will archive or even listen to a second time.

HunterTech
07-30-2018, 06:27 AM
Well, I think my issue with how the classic themes are utilized is that never once do they kick into proper form. Sure, they're used for big moments, and that's where they're at their most developed. But every time they show up, it's always so brief that the most you get out of them is "Well that just played for a bit." What my buddy Imperivm suggested that they should have done is to start off with the MoS/BvS themes to signify the prior darker nature of their characters, and then transition to the Williams and Elfman themes to show that they've become much better heroes than they had previously been. Of course, that's too much of smart idea for the company that thought not changing the release date of the movie would still do them any favors. As is, it's pure fan service that never got to go outside of being anything more. And no, I don't blame Elfman at all, since the insanely rushed production didn't really get to do him much favors. At least AoU had some cool variants on the Avengers theme.

Though in my own personal opinion: I think "What Are You Going to Do When You Are Not Saving the World?" does a good job of exemplifying Superman's character, even more so than the film it's for. It has its own set of optimism that sets it apart from the iconic Williams theme. Considering that Zimmer didn't think there wasn't a good place to put it in BvS, and with Elfman not using it either, it's a shame that it only got relegated to the end of MoS. And for that, I hope whoever gets hired next has a better chance on utilizing it more for MoS 2.

princessjordan
07-30-2018, 06:56 AM
Hunter I'll give that track a second listen.

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Not an unreasonable person after all.

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It is...interesting to me that Zimmer's Wonder Woman Theme gets reused in her own film and is referenced by Elfman in JL, but the Batman and Superman material is ignored.

Sunshower
07-30-2018, 07:13 AM
Whenever Zimmer uses "kooky, random and off-the-wall" sound for some scores, he's called a genius for it. Take Elfman in his prime, and it's just for "recognition." Okay then.

Well, I wouldn't say "recognition" I worded that poorly.

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How is that inappropriate or uncalled for?

I think he means its inappropriate for THIS version of Batman.

HunterTech
07-30-2018, 07:41 AM
Well, I think the simple answer to that is that the electric cello motif for WW has become the theme for Wonder Woman. Besides the Avengers theme, it's been the one new superhero theme people can recognize. Sure, MoS sold like hotcakes, but people aren't so likely to hum that theme.

As for why the MoS theme wasn't used in JL, I'm thinking Elfman ran into the same problem Zimmer did for BvS: no good place to put it. It's such a dense score in its construction that Elfman decided it would be easier to stick to the iconic themes for JL, since it was intended to be DC's Avengers and all that. Though really: the bit where Supes punches Steppenwolf probably could've used WAYGtDWYANStW? fine.

Though I couldn't explain why he went for a new piano theme for Clark instead of the MoS one. �\_(ツ)_/�

I should say that there is a tracked piece of MoS music ("Krypton"), for the scene when the team break into the Kryptonian ship.

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Well, I wouldn't say "recognition" I worded that poorly.

Oh, I know you meant no malice when you said that. Considering that no one could believe the frontman to Oingo Boingo could compose film music at the time, Elfman decided to be as stylish as possible to show he truly had skill. With your comment, I was just reminded of the more egregious RCP fanboys, who believe that Zimmer is a divine being, and that every other composer is immensely inferior. Obviously, I do not think this to be the case with most RCP fans, but there's a key few that drive me nuts. Especially when it came to JL, and recently with M:I- Fallout. Makes it a bit difficult to be enthusiastic about Zimmer and co., really.


I think he means its inappropriate for THIS version of Batman.

Well, is it though? This is the silliest Batman costume we've had in ages. He fantasized about being lifted by bats when he fell down the well. His acceptance of Superman came down to the fact both their mothers had the same name. He's certainly more overtly vulnerable and limited compared to Bale's Batman. Plus, considering the fact that Burton's Batman was also supposed to be the dark and edgier take, but is seen as silly now, I don't know if I could truly consider it unfitting for this current incarnation of Batman. After all, we can associate it with B:TAS fine, so why is it not a problem there?

Dave999
07-30-2018, 08:35 AM
It's very simple, really. If you're trying to set up a new franchise, a reimagined superhero world, you don't put in throwbacks to the OG. You don't. You compose new music. As much as I like JW's Superman themes, and as much as I like DE's Batman's, they had no place in the new DCEU/MOS/JL movies. That's just my opinion.

HunterTech
07-30-2018, 08:49 AM
Oh absolutely. But considering WB decided to scrap a lot of what Snyder was aiming for, and did their own weird amalgamation of a film, trying to use everything that has ever been iconic about each film iteration of the heroes isn't too bad of an idea. I just think it's much better suited for a standalone flick, rather than one in an established universe.

Again, you could've sold me on using these themes for this particular film, but the final execution leaves a bit to be desired.

DAKoftheOTA
07-30-2018, 01:25 PM
It�s a completely different character. Different universe. Unnecessary. Along with everything else that pulled me out of the film and distracted me, this was equally as distracting and unfitting and not appropriate. To me it was like Elfman going �look, this is my umpteenth time doing Batman!� And yes I�m fully aware he used his original Burton theme for the animated series which I watched as a kid, but that was based on/inspired by both Burton films (which seemed to happen so often back in the 90�s: Beetlejuice, Men In Black, Jumanji, Casper, any others I�m forgetting?), which makes it appropriate imo. Zimmer didn�t reuse his TDK theme in BvS. I wonder if it was Elfman�s or Whedon�s idea to include it. I�d put money on Zack Snyder putting the kibosh on that had HZ thought to throw his old themes in there - not that I think he�d do that in the first place. It�s very vain.

Anyway, that�s all just my opinion and how I feel on the matter. I�m not spouting fact. I enjoy discussing these things so long as we all stay civil :)

Rigby
07-30-2018, 01:35 PM
It�s a completely different character. Different universe. Unnecessary. Along with everything else that pulled me out of the film and distracted me, this was equally as distracting and unfitting and not appropriate. To me it was like Elfman going �look, this is my umpteenth time doing Batman!� And yes I�m fully aware he used his original Burton theme for the animated series which I watched as a kid, but that was based on/inspired by both Burton films (which seemed to happen so often back in the 90�s: Beetlejuice, Men In Black, Jumanji, Casper, any others I�m forgetting?), which makes it appropriate imo. Zimmer didn�t reuse his TDK theme in BvS. I wonder if it was Elfman�s or Whedon�s idea to include it. I�d put money on Zack Snyder putting the kibosh on that had HZ thought to throw his old themes in there - not that I think he�d do that in the first place. It�s very vain.

Anyway, that�s all just my opinion and how I feel on the matter. I�m not spouting fact. I enjoy discussing these things so long as we all stay civil :)

I�m sure it was Whedon�s idea to do it, especially since he was the one who brought Elfman on board in the first place. The whole film had the �I Don�t Give A Fuck� attitude that made it seem like Whedon was intentionally throwing out what came before. Having Elfman give all the interviews beforehand seemed more of a PR move than anything else, and according to Hybrid over on the HZ site, both Danny and Hans are actually on good terms with each other.

DAKoftheOTA
07-30-2018, 01:44 PM
If I were a composer I’d want to be on good terms with all of my peers as well. However I’m not exactly sure how I’d feel if the characters I began with had completely different themes and my peer threw out what I wrote. But that’s business, and it’s most likely what Whedon wanted.

But. I look at this way: JXL was canned from JL. However, J�hannsson was canned from BR2049 and replaced by HZ & Wallfisch. HZ scoring that film was my prayers being answered, and it’s my favorite film score of 2017. So as sad as I am about JXL not getting to continue and wondering what could have been, we got an RCP BR score. Fair trade off. And HZ payed homage to the original by including Vangelis right at the end ;)

Rigby
07-30-2018, 01:48 PM
And can someone clarify for me:

Is the 2-note Superman motif (which opens the Krypton cue and starts climbing the scale) basically the main Superman theme from “What Are You.....” but just stripped down?

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If I were a composer I’d want to be on good terms with all of my peers as well. However I’m not exactly sure how I’d feel if the characters I began with had completely different themes and my peer threw out what I wrote. But that’s business, and it’s most likely what Whedon wanted.

I fully agree, and I hate when thematic consistency is abandoned. To be fair though, Zimmer did the same thing with TASM2. (And for some reason Henry Jackman abandoning his Cap theme in Civil War lol)

DAKoftheOTA
07-30-2018, 01:55 PM
Yes. What Are You Going to Do When You Are Not Saving the World? is the full Superman theme, heard in all its glory for the first time right at the end of the film. But it�s heard in bits and pieces throughout. 1m01, 2m08, 4m24, 5m33, a few others.


I fully agree, and I hate when thematic consistency is abandoned. To be fair though, Zimmer did the same thing with TASM2. (And for some reason Henry Jackman abandoning his Cap theme in Civil War lol)

This is true, however director Marc Webb originally wanted HZ from the beginning, but he was busy doing TDKR. So Webb went with Horner instead. And I don�t understand why people always say Jackman abandoned his Cap theme in Civil War. It�s heard in quite a few cues, most notably 4m36-37 Bucky Escapes right at the end when Cap grips onto the helipad and the helicopter. Very epic arrangement.

Rigby
07-30-2018, 01:57 PM
Yes. What Are You Going to Do When You Are Not Saving the World? is the full Superman theme, heard in all its glory for the first time right at the end of the film. But it�s heard in bits and pieces throughout. 1m01, 2m08, 4m24, 5m33, a few others.

Ah gotcha, thanks. It�s interesting that theme basically still is in BvS throughout, but is slowed down and deconstructed (Day of the Dead and Ow, My Balls especially)

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Yes. What Are You Going to Do When You Are Not Saving the World? is the full Superman theme, heard in all its glory for the first time right at the end of the film. But it�s heard in bits and pieces throughout. 1m01, 2m08, 4m24, 5m33, a few others.



This is true, however director Marc Webb originally wanted HZ from the beginning, but he was busy doing TDKR. So Webb went with Horner instead. And I don�t understand why people always say Jackman abandoned his Cap theme in Civil War. It�s heard in quite a few cues, most notably 4m36-37 Bucky Escapes right at the end when Cap grips onto the helipad and the helicopter. Very epic arrangement.

I�ve seen some piano arrangements and I�m 90% sure it�s a different theme, I definitely could be wrong though. They do use the descending string line in the credits however.

DAKoftheOTA
07-30-2018, 01:58 PM
It�s not interesting at all, actually. We call that �thematic continuity� ;)

Maybe that cue isn�t TWS theme then, but it�s definitely in there. I listened to the score over the weekend and I heard it. I think it�s in 1m02 Lagos.

Rigby
07-30-2018, 02:00 PM
It�s not interesting at all, actually. We call that �thematic continuity� ;)

Lol considering how scores have been lately (coughMarvelcough) I�m always surprised when they actually keep thematic continuity ;)

HunterTech
07-30-2018, 02:02 PM
Um, umpteenth time? It's like the 3rd film the Elfman Batman theme appears in. At least with Superman, you can say 5 films is plentiful for the theme to appear in. And it's Shirley Walker who took care of B:TAS, who likely used the Elfman theme because the studio wanted it. Also, the DCEU grew to eventually have quite the distinct feel of its own, so I think having it for different incarnations isn't too far fetched. Then again, it's abandoned not too long after, so I guess they figured it was better to move on from that.

Let's just agree that the full Zimmer Superman theme is pretty good, and that they should use it for whatever sequel they do. :D

Rigby
07-30-2018, 02:03 PM
It’s not interesting at all, actually. We call that “thematic continuity” ;)

Maybe that cue isn’t TWS theme then, but it’s definitely in there. I listened to the score over the weekend and I heard it. I think it’s in 1m02 Lagos.

Initially I thought it was the “B” Captain Theme (tail end of credits/Smithsonian scene) which actually is used in Peggy’s funeral scene. It definitely seems to be longer though. Hahaha someone needs to ask Henry....

HunterTech
07-30-2018, 02:04 PM
Lol considering how scores have been lately (coughMarvelcough) I’m always surprised when they actually keep thematic continuity ;)

And yet, a certain someone doesn't acknowledge when it's actually pulled off at points in the MCU. :p

Also, why does thematic continuity matter so much? Just make the music good, and I'm in.

DAKoftheOTA
07-30-2018, 02:07 PM
I give props to the MCU when they do use thematic continuity, it’s just not often.

And why does it matter? Iron Man has 3 different themes. How many themes does Nolan’s Batman have? 1. I’ll just leave it at that.

HunterTech
07-30-2018, 02:08 PM
And the 3rd one is the best. ;)

Rigby
07-30-2018, 02:09 PM
And yet, a certain someone doesn't acknowledge when it's actually pulled off at points in the MCU. :p

Also, why does thematic continuity matter so much? Just make the music good, and I'm in.

That is true, they have been getting much better, so I definitely stand corrected there.

But thematic continuity is a pretty important part of world building. Take Star Wars or POTC, you have themes that grow and develop throughout the series, and when they return down the road there already is a connection to those themes/ideas. Now if the music is great as well that�s a plus :D

DAKoftheOTA
07-30-2018, 02:12 PM
HZ practically didn’t even do PotC4. He probably sat in his studio with a cigarette and a cup of tea and had his minions track in material from the trilogy :laugh:

HunterTech
07-30-2018, 02:13 PM
So thematic continuity matters more than the actual music being good. Alrighty then.

With the MCU, considering how insanely perfect of a comic book adaptation the whole thing is, I almost like viewing the composers as the illustrators in a way. Where they each bring their own flavor, and some do return to work from time to time again. Of course, some are of better quality than others, but that's what you expect when hiring different people of sorts.

I know this isn't a literal comic book, but I just like thinking of it like that.

Rigby
07-30-2018, 02:16 PM
HZ practically didn’t even do PotC4. He probably sat in his studio with a cigarette and a cup of tea and had his minions track in material from the trilogy :laugh:

Hahahaha he had his slaves chopping the music up while he and Rodrigo Y Gabriella jammed on the guitars

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So thematic continuity matters more than the actual music being good. Alrighty then.

With the MCU, considering how insanely perfect of a comic book adaptation the whole thing is, I almost like viewing the composers as the illustrators in a way. Where they each bring their own flavor, and some do return to work from time to time again. Of course, some are of better quality than others, but that's what you expect when hiring different people of sorts.

I know this isn't a literal comic book, but I just like thinking of it like that.

Oh definitely not, I never said that. But it definitely improves the experience. Imagine if each Avengers film had a different theme. By the time Infinity War rolls around you wouldn’t have the emotional connection to the Avengers theme when it is used.

But I’m really not a big stickler when it comes to certain properties. Thor or Iron Man having 3 themes personally never bothered me.

DAKoftheOTA
07-30-2018, 03:23 PM
Ask any Marvel fanboy how good of an interpretation Civil War is of the comics. They’ll whole-heartedly disagree. I can’t say because A.) I don’t read comic books and B.) I’m a movie guy. I love it as a film. CW is up there on my list, one of my favorite MCU films.

Rigby
08-02-2018, 06:30 PM
From HZ.com....

�The most interesting and unfortunately not released in any form suite is Atli's "Superman Theme v5.8", which develops Hans' Superman theme in a "punchy" version & really gave life to Lois theme in what would become in film the epic --Superman Saves Lois-- idea used in "Escape From Ship" & "Faora Attacks"...�

First I�ve heard of this, sounds really cool though!

JaySparda
03-21-2019, 10:03 PM
Thank you!

Lord Milutin
07-07-2019, 03:24 PM
Hey, mate.

First of all, I want to thank you for sharing with us your awesome music collection.

I was wondering if you happen to have Man of Steel and Batman v Superman complete scores (51 tracks) in FLAC format?
They are the two things I am missing in FLAC for my DCEU collection. I already have Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, and Josstice League, and I know that Aquaman and Shazam haven't leaked yet.

Thank you in advance!

centurychild
10-09-2019, 04:49 AM
Thank you so much!