Helix
12-28-2014, 05:16 PM
I mostly live in the custom covers thread (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/official-custom-covers-thread-90457/201.html)in FILM/TV/CLASSICAL downloads section. Sometimes I have to post covers for more than two different releases together. At first, I was like okay, I'll just edit post and attach it at the end of my previous post which happens to be the latest one in the thread at the time. But I've realized since then that while searching this proves to be a problem. Some posts have only mentioned a movie and yet it turns up in the search(even advanced search with keywords). So, to make it easier, I decided to create a new post for every different custom I make(this is not for variants, just for different movies, games or releases). But what happens is I am unable to do that. I have to ask (read: irritate) other users to post something(to which they reply graciously) so that I can then post afresh.
So, is there a way to create a new post following another post that I just made which has not been followed up by any other post by any other user?
Amaury
12-28-2014, 08:35 PM
There is, yeah, but the admins have it set so two or more consecutive posts are automatically merged.
Helix
12-28-2014, 09:37 PM
I understand that's probably to prevent people from posting useless crap (or bumping), but there has to be some way to get around this. Can we communicate with the person/s who has access to the vBulletin CP?
Amaury
12-28-2014, 09:43 PM
Off topic, but who owns this site, I mean has control of the vBulletin CP? I was wondering if we could ask for a new theme, or maybe make one ourselves and then submit it. The current one is okay but everything is stock. This forum has what a couple hundred thousand(more?) users, in them we have graphic wizards(the customs/sig threads is pretty evident of that) and the fact that this forum feels extremely generic. I don't know maybe everyone else likes it this way. Thoughts? Maybe I should open a second thread.
P.S. I did see the timewarp theme, and no.
Sarah (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/members/sarah-677530) is the owner, but Jessie (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/members/jessie-70703) also has access to the admin control panel.
Helix
12-28-2014, 09:47 PM
Oh thanks! Let's hope they read this.
BTW, have you seen the Halo Waypoint forums, I don't know about functionality but at least they look superb.
Amaury
12-28-2014, 10:01 PM
Oh thanks! Do they read these things or are they like most forum owners out there? Invisible and scary.
BTW, have you seen the Halo Waypoint forums, I don't know about functionality but at least they look superb.
They're both around, they're just busy with their lives.
Helix
12-28-2014, 10:03 PM
Sorry about editing everything. I just found this guy who's basically put a bunch of pretty excellent vB 4.2.2 themes up for free. I'm browsing to see if there's anything kewl. I have caught Jessie around once or twice.
James P.Sullivan
12-28-2014, 11:38 PM
A bit late to the conversation...
First of all, asking us is not irritating. It's a fun opportunity to post something meaningless and stupid! Hurrah! :awsm:
Secondly, the only way I've found around it is to wait a while (no idea how long exactly). If you come back and post after a while, it'll register as a new post, not add it to the last one. But I don't know how long it is. Maybe 30 minutes?
Helix
12-29-2014, 12:42 AM
:) thanks and I do appreciate you guys posting that awesome stuff. It's just that asking for it can feel rather weird. Like give me funny stuff or no half-assed covers for ya.
I waited 20m once, didn't work. There has to be an easier way, I mean a bot could wait it out, record it and start posting based on those wait times so where's the protection? I mean there should be a way, not easy, not in plain sight obviously but somewhere.
About our secondary convo, do you like this theme and the absence of a logo?
Amaury
12-29-2014, 12:47 AM
I waited 20m once, didn't work. There has to be an easier way, I mean a bot could wait it out, record it and start posting based on those wait times so where's the protection? I mean there should be a way, not easy, not in plain sight obviously but somewhere.
About our secondary convo, do you like this theme and the absence of a logo?
It's likely set to merge consecutive posts made within a 24-hour period.
As for styles, Let's Do the Timewarp is the only "official" style of the site, so that's why it's the only one with a logo.
Helix
12-29-2014, 01:23 AM
It's likely set to merge consecutive posts made within a 24-hour period.
As for styles, Let's Do the Timewarp is the only "official" style of the site, so that's why it's the only one with a logo.
If this is true than I should prolly stop this right here, 24-hours is .......ummmmm............loco.
Yeah, but a logo is a logo. It stays on every theme, adapts if it has to but is one of the fundamental constants in the visual identity of a site. Also, it's showing its age. This forum may have started out focused on FF (not to say that it's lost it) but it's turned into a much wilder beast, more complicated, mature and evolving. It needs something classy, something timeless, contemporary, while still paying tribute to it's FF roots. My two cents anyway.
Timewarp is very dark. The reason I stopped using was because of this. I'm not saying we should go all out and turn the brightness up to a max, but let's keep the posts bright and we can tone down the rest to maybe shades of grey or muted primaries?
Amaury
12-29-2014, 03:25 AM
Yeah, but a logo is a logo. It stays on every theme, adapts if it has to but is one of the fundamental constants in the visual identity of a site. Also, it's showing its age. This forum may have started out focused on FF (not to say that it's lost it) but it's turned into a much wilder beast, more complicated, mature and evolving. It needs something classy, something timeless, contemporary, while still paying tribute to it's FF roots. My two cents anyway.
Timewarp is very dark. The reason I stopped using was because of this. I'm not saying we should go all out and turn the brightness up to a max, but let's keep the posts bright and we can tone down the rest to maybe shades of grey or muted primaries?
It's still a site for Final Fantasy, though, and should, as such, have a logo that fits. :)
I dunno. Dark styles are pretty popular on gaming forums, such as here. However, I'm still waiting to hear back from Sarah on becoming a moderator with access to styles, and I could probably come up with something with a balance. In the meantime, though, if you want to make a mockup screenshot showing what you're looking for in a style color-wise, I can likely whip up something for you with Stylish.
Helix
12-29-2014, 09:25 AM
It's still a site for Final Fantasy, though, and should, as such, have a logo that fits. :)
I dunno. Dark styles are pretty popular on gaming forums, such as here. However, I'm still waiting to hear back from Sarah on becoming a moderator with access to styles, and I could probably come up with something with a balance. In the meantime, though, if you want to make a mockup screenshot showing what you're looking for in a style color-wise, I can likely whip up something for you with Stylish.
Absolutely, I wasn't suggesting we should change it to Super Mario (or was I? ;) :)). The name is 'Final Fantasy Shrine' and the logo will reflect that. But what i'm trying to say is that the current logo
would feel right at home in the nineties with the X-files and Blue (da ba dee da ba-) and what's that translucent text over the characters about? 'SHRINE.COM'. I was thinking more minimal and white on grey type and less cluttered with all those characters in the bg. Here's the link (
http://www.sultantheme.com/2012/01/08/free-discontinued-styles/?category=22) to the guy I was talking about earlier and the theme preview page (
http://www.sultantheme.com/vb4forum/showthread.php?397-ALL-vb4-styles-are-now-FREE). By default it's got a theme called Futuris which is still dark but graphically not bad. I went through the styles chooser and found 'Achik2' which was a little closer to what I was thinking. Greys in the background, main stuff in a muted primary colour and the posts in white or light grey. The idea is not to make it too contrast-y but to have a flow between the palette, as an example dark grey-light grey-teal. I'm working on a draft of a potential logo now.
Maybe there could be a CAPTCHA if you want to post another new, independent post after your last one. I've been looking at the new Google reCAPTCHAs (
http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/12/are-you-robot-introducing-no-captcha.html) and they look much better than the other ones around. Can an admin/mod do that?
Helix
12-29-2014, 03:28 PM
I have something. Now this is a non-final sort of thing you get when you start experimenting too much. I tried to keep to the FF roots by trying to make it look like a typical FF game logo, with FLARES!!! Below is a text test, the artwork is temporary and unfinished. It's based on the banner size we have now on the Timewarp theme(almost double the size so as to be hi-res enough), following the dark grey-light grey-teal palette. Feedback is of course more than welcome. Here goes nothing.

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Click for full size
Favicon (the lil' icon you see before the URL and the title on the tab)
The following is a rejected initial idea I had with the rectangular bar which features in most FF logos to be this sort of portal through which the titles appear. Obviously, I did not work too much on this. But for sake of variety.
And surprisingly, I realize that this is not a merged post, so yay.
James P.Sullivan
12-29-2014, 05:24 PM
What did I say...?!
:awsm:
Helix
12-29-2014, 05:30 PM
Do any of really know what we say and what we think we said? :) :) Still 6 hours almost.
James P.Sullivan
12-29-2014, 07:23 PM
Do any of really know what we say and what we think we said? :) :) Still 6 hours almost.
Like I said, I've had it happen before with only about 30 minutes/an hour between posts. If nobody else posts here for a while, I'll try experimenting for you. In 15 minutes, I'll make another post and we'll see what happens. Then I'll wait half an hour and try again. (So don't reply to this post - just like it to show you've read it.)
---------- Post added at 11:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:30 AM ----------
Here we go... 19 minutes later...
---------- Post added at 12:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:49 AM ----------
33 minutes after previous post...
James P.Sullivan
12-29-2014, 08:25 PM
62 minutes after previous post...
---------- Post added at 01:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:25 PM ----------
And there you have it! :D
Helix
12-29-2014, 08:36 PM
So it's somewhere between 33 and 62 minutes, probably a full hour then. Thanks for this Sully.
James P.Sullivan
12-29-2014, 08:51 PM
So it's somewhere between 33 and 62 minutes, probably a full hour then. Thanks for this Sully.
Most likely an hour. So that's not too bad. You're welcome. :)
If you still don't want to wait a full hour, feel free to ask for more random comments! :awsm:
Amaury
12-29-2014, 09:51 PM
Helix, something like this:

Helix
12-29-2014, 10:49 PM
Helix, something like this:
Wait, do you....have the access?
The post itself could be light grey as to keep the page overall a little bright. The frame, side panels could be darker and for the bg we could use some geometric tiled patterns in a gradient from the light grey to dark grey/black. If the colour from the logos above is okay(it's #0a1b23), then we could sprinkle that in there somewhere as a secondary colour to avoid the whole monochrome thing.
James P.Sullivan
12-29-2014, 11:02 PM
Helix, something like this:
I see my name!!!!!
:awsm:
Helix
12-29-2014, 11:06 PM
I see my name!!!!!
:awsm:
I went through the same thing just now, feels weird that my name and avi are the same thousands of miles away, I mean I know that it's everywhere someone reads the forum but seeing it like this is like someone sending you a picture of you on the tv. :awsm:
James P.Sullivan
12-29-2014, 11:09 PM
I went through the same thing just now, feels weird that my name and avi are the same thousands of miles away, I mean I know that it's everywhere someone reads the forum but seeing it like this is like someone sending you a picture of you on the tv.
Exactly my feelings!! It's really weird... and pardon how this might come across... but it's also really weird to think that you are a real person, sitting at a computer thousands of miles away on the other side of the world... I have no idea who you really are... but then again, you have no idea who I really am...
Ok, ok, ok, end of random contemplation of the fascinating world of the side effects of modern technology. :awsm:
Amaury
12-29-2014, 11:15 PM
Wait, do you....have the access?
No. I did it using Stylish. It's an add-on for Firefox and Chrome.
How's this?

Helix
12-29-2014, 11:33 PM
Postception.
Looks better, the timestamp frame could match the color of the user details bar so it could envelope the post in a way. Post maybe more lighter. Quote could be the color post is now.
And Stylish,
http://38.media.tumblr.com/52cbaeddeca606a13cff066e9df495a7/tumblr_n9czpgtvYV1thlg3zo7_250.gif
I didn't even know this existed. I'd heard of and regrettably tried, crappy basic YouTube themers but this is amazing. Thanks.
James P.Sullivan
12-29-2014, 11:37 PM
Postception.
< Insert Zimmer "BRAAAAHMMMM" here. >
Amaury
12-29-2014, 11:45 PM
How's this?
As for the quote block, I kept it a different color than the post body so it's obvious it's a quote and not part of the user's post.
James P.Sullivan
12-30-2014, 12:01 AM
How's this?
As for the quote block, I kept it a different color than the post body so it's obvious it's a quote and not part of the user's post.
I need to free fall! I'm dying of postception overload! :P
I'm actually really enjoying watching what you guys are cooking up here. Are you trying to find a new colour scheme for the shrine?
Helix
12-30-2014, 12:04 AM
As for the quote block, I kept it a different color than the post body so it's obvious it's a quote and not part of the user's post.
I meant that quote could be darker than post body but lighter than frame.
Amaury
12-30-2014, 12:29 AM
I meant that quote could be darker than post body but lighter than frame.
Gotcha. But otherwise it's good? If so, I'll get to work on the whole site.
Helix
12-30-2014, 05:58 PM
The post body could be slightly lighter and the quote thing too but other wise it looks cool, helluva improvement over current. The quick reply part looks different though, way out of place.
Does Stylish allow for changing fonts, or the banner image/favicon?
---------- Post added at 09:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:53 PM ----------
I need to free fall! I'm dying of postception overload! :P
I'm actually really enjoying watching what you guys are cooking up here. Are you trying to find a new colour scheme for the shrine?
:) I know. Me too.
I actually don't know since neither Sarah nor Jessie have been here. I think the Stylish thing is per-user basis instead of global(for every user of the site). So you could turn it on only for you in your browser with the add-on installed.
James P.Sullivan
12-30-2014, 06:24 PM
The post body could be slightly lighter and the quote thing too but other wise it looks cool, helluva improvement over current. The quick reply part looks different though, way out of place.
Does Stylish allow for changing fonts, or the banner image/favicon?
---------- Post added at 09:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:53 PM ----------
:) I know. Me too.
I actually don't know since neither Sarah nor Jessie have been here. I think the Stylish thing is per-user basis instead of global(for every user of the site). So you could turn it on only for you in your browser with the add-on installed.
Ah... cool. :)
Helix
12-30-2014, 06:29 PM
But if, once a style has been made if it can be shared or made public, then everyone using the add-on could load it up and see the site like that, but I don't know about this, Amaury?
James P.Sullivan
12-30-2014, 07:12 PM
But if, once a style has been made if it can be shared or made public, then everyone using the add-on could load it up and see the site like that, but I don't know about this, Amaury?
That would be nice. :)
---------- Post added at 12:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:10 PM ----------
How about some postception in return? This is how I see you...

Helix
12-30-2014, 07:29 PM
I'm using it TEMPORARILY, I use Chrome usually I swear. I opened too many tabs here and now I can't go back to it. Don't send me to browsing reeducation please.

James P.Sullivan
12-30-2014, 07:33 PM
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
12-31-2014, 12:41 AM
Chrome, IE, it's all the same until you get FireFox.
http://i.imgur.com/gd4a93j.gif
Amaury
12-31-2014, 12:55 AM
The post body could be slightly lighter and the quote thing too but other wise it looks cool, helluva improvement over current.
How's this?
The quick reply part looks different though, way out of place.
Yeah, I hadn't gotten to that area yet. I'm only doing the postbit until you're happy with what you see. :)
Does Stylish allow for changing fonts, or the banner image/favicon?
Fonts, yes. Banner, possibly. Favicon, no.
James P.Sullivan
12-31-2014, 12:58 AM
Chrome, IE, it's all the same until you get FireFox.
Mmmm... Nah. Chrome is faster (and looks cooler). I had Firefox for a while, but moved to Chrome when it first came out. I've never looked back. Being able to sign in to Chrome on any computer to see all your bookmarks is just awesome. :)
Funny how no one's mentioned Safari...
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
12-31-2014, 01:21 AM
How's this?
Firefox? Yes.
Very good.
---------- Post added at 04:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:14 PM ----------
Chrome is faster
:notgood:\
Chrome has a tendency to take up to 3GB or more space if you don't uninstall it to remove all the old updates.
Chrome is handy for synching with your Google account.
But most web browsers have their own synch/accounts now.
A few technical things Chrome has over FF: it's better with Windows Media Foundation in regards to youtube's HD@60fps videos.
You can't really get that on Firefox since FF hadn't updated to that yet.
Safari
Don't think it's updated or powerful enough these days.
It's just as introductory as Microsoft's IE.
Opera used to be nice.
Until they changed their whole API system and policies.
Now a lot of the fun features for file sharing/streaming in Opera was removed.
Helix
12-31-2014, 01:50 AM
Don't think it's updated or powerful enough these days.
It's just as introductory as Microsoft's IE.
Opera used to be nice.
Until they changed their whole API system and policies.
Now a lot of the fun features for file sharing/streaming in Opera was removed.
I think Safari gets it done on Macs but yeah the Windows version is crap.
I used to love Opera and then yeah they tried to Chrome-ify it.
How's this?
Yeah, I hadn't gotten to that area yet. I'm only doing the postbit until you're happy with what you see. :)
Fonts, yes. Banner, possibly. Favicon, no.
By post body I mean the backing of the post content text, in this case "insert zimmer braa...". That could be more lighter. Otherwise, the frame(one with the timestamp and user details) is ok.
Yay, Mmmm. I never shoulda gotten ma hopes up.
My unhealthy obsession with favicons is because when you have a hundred tabs open and they're squished so that the only thing identifying them is the favicon then seven different sites with the same goddamn vB logo is pretty confusing.
Chrome, IE, it's all the same until you get FireFox.
I used to do that too. Turn off Aero and optimize for performance things, then I took an arrow to the knee.
I do think Chrome started out problematic but it's getting better. The same Android vs. iOS thing happened with Firefox and Chrome. FF had a head start and an awesome collection of add-ons. Chrome is getting there with extensions and most things are now on both browsers so it's ok. The Google Sync thing is very good especially if you're into the Google ecosystem with Android/Chrome browser/ChromeOS etc.
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
12-31-2014, 01:54 AM
then I took an arrow to the knee.
:shock: :laugh: I just bought Skyrim over the holidays from Steam sales.
James P.Sullivan
12-31-2014, 09:42 AM
Don't think it's updated or powerful enough these days.
It's just as introductory as Microsoft's IE.
Actually I think the new Safari on Macs is supposed to rival Chrome as the most powerful, fastest browser around. But, despite having a Mac, I still use Chrome. I just prefer it.
Amaury
12-31-2014, 09:54 AM
I use Firefox. Chrome uses too much memory and the tabs freeze and take a while to become active again if Chrome has been idling for a while.
James P.Sullivan
12-31-2014, 10:02 AM
I use Firefox. Chrome uses too much memory and the tabs freeze and take a while to become active again if Chrome has been idling for a while.
Is Firefox actually faster? I got frustrated with it because it looked so cluttered compared to the simplistic look of Chrome.
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
12-31-2014, 10:33 AM
Is Firefox actually faster?
It depends on how many extensions you have installed.
For Adblock, if you end up using every language, you'll get a speed hit.
There's also system modification tools (Yamicsoft, I think, Windows X Manager) that change how much resources your browser can use.
Firefox can be customized in that way. Chrome, not so much. Everything Chrome is internal, even their Adobe Flash is a custom build that only updates whenever google decides to update it.
If everything is installed properly and udpated (Flash, Java, etc), then they should all run relatively the same.
The only way something breaks and slows you down is if the plugins/exntensions you're using have not updated while certain sites have updated or other components updated in Firefox.
In FF, you'll see a lot of incompatible plugins for newest versions of FF which have never been updated or maintained for centuries.
Since they're all mostly free that are created by people who know how to create and have the spare time, eventually, some of the ones that don't get thousands of users and little to no donations, they're going to stop updating for newer FF versions.
Chrome's most used extensions are mostly updated constantly, as they're also the same most-used on FF.
So, millions of supporters for the developer to not lose interest.
Other than that, if you constantly install/remove plugins/extensions/themes, you would probably get various speed hits.
A complete uninstall and reinstall would help that.
Chrome's data folder can build up to 2+ GB if you don't clean it out after a year.
In the old days, anyhow. They might have fixed it by now to remove old versions.
The data folder would keep every single version you update to since you first installed it.
Which builds up really fast if you don't pay attention.
James P.Sullivan
12-31-2014, 11:05 AM
It depends on how many extensions you have installed.
For Adblock, if you end up using every language, you'll get a speed hit.
There's also system modification tools (Yamicsoft, I think, Windows X Manager) that change how much resources your browser can use.
Firefox can be customized in that way. Chrome, not so much. Everything Chrome is internal, even their Adobe Flash is a custom build that only updates whenever google decides to update it.
If everything is installed properly and udpated (Flash, Java, etc), then they should all run relatively the same.
The only way something breaks and slows you down is if the plugins/exntensions you're using have not updated while certain sites have updated or other components updated in Firefox.
In FF, you'll see a lot of incompatible plugins for newest versions of FF which have never been updated or maintained for centuries.
Since they're all mostly free that are created by people who know how to create and have the spare time, eventually, some of the ones that don't get thousands of users and little to no donations, they're going to stop updating for newer FF versions.
Chrome's most used extensions are mostly updated constantly, as they're also the same most-used on FF.
So, millions of supporters for the developer to not lose interest.
Other than that, if you constantly install/remove plugins/extensions/themes, you would probably get various speed hits.
A complete uninstall and reinstall would help that.
Chrome's data folder can build up to 2+ GB if you don't clean it out after a year.
In the old days, anyhow. They might have fixed it by now to remove old versions.
The data folder would keep every single version you update to since you first installed it.
Which builds up really fast if you don't pay attention.
So if I uninstalled and then reinstalled it might help all that?
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
12-31-2014, 01:18 PM
So if I uninstalled and then reinstalled it might help all that?
You should check how big your folder is first.
(Windows 7 / 64bit)
C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application
Right now, mine's not so bad. I haven't launched it for a long time between updates.
See, one of those folders is useless.
Only the most recent one is relevant.
I would uninstall it and install it again, but i'm probably not going to use it so much in the near future to worry about it.
I'll wait until it gets to 1GB and then do that.
James P.Sullivan
12-31-2014, 02:17 PM
You should check how big your folder is first.
(Windows 7 / 64bit)
C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application
Right now, mine's not so bad. I haven't launched it for a long time between updates.
See, one of those folders is useless.
Only the most recent one is relevant.
I would uninstall it and install it again, but i'm probably not going to use it so much in the near future to worry about it.
I'll wait until it gets to 1GB and then do that.
I use a Mac, so I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the help. :)
theone2000
12-31-2014, 11:15 PM
Chrome, IE, it's all the same until you get FireFox.
http://i.imgur.com/gd4a93j.gif
Ah. the Doom9 forum. Good man.
James P.Sullivan
12-31-2014, 11:21 PM
Chrome, IE, it's all the same until you get FireFox.
http://i.imgur.com/gd4a93j.gif
lol talk about postception. :P
Amaury
01-01-2015, 08:02 AM
It depends on how many extensions you have installed.
This. I don't have too many custom things installed.
Extensions:
User Styles:
Appearance:
Plugins:

Amaury
01-04-2015, 03:55 AM
Helix, if the latest version I showed is good enough for you, I can go ahead and start and then provide you with the CSS when I'm done.
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