I have done the first set of Four Ciphers in Besaid (to open the cave door) i did this quite early on in the game. I decided to take a look in the cave now im in Chapter 5 i believe and as u enter you can only turn left and there is a wall to your right asking for Ciphers. I have done this once before but have recently retaarted the game and cant i cant remember where the Ciphers are (are they in the same places as the old ones)

Mebbage

Nope, those 4 new ciphers are different. Have u bought the expensive key in the besaid shop? If u did, show it to the old men inside besaid temple's 2 1st floor rooms, and they'll give u a device w/c can detect hidden spheres. U have to find those spheres all over Balamb, then use them to unlock the new door at the hidden cave (I wont tell u where they are cos it wont be a challenge anymore). ^_^

oh yeh now i remember lol
the first time i played it i used that key and the thing u use lol
but i went to the women in the shop and she says that it has been brought
who has it>?????

ther's this guy in the clam lands in the gorge? well if you rescue him in this little side mission then you get the key for free and you save tons of gil... :)

Mebbage - don't even bother unless you're planning on collecting every Garment Grid. All that's in the secret area of the cave is a path to a garbage Garment Grid and a few Ethers.

well i am tryin to get as much as i can lol enyway guys thanks for the info
u can close this post now if u want lol (delete it)

Mebbage