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James (The Disney Guy)
08-03-2015, 12:00 AM
They never showed him getting sucked into the electrical servers. They just showed him exploding from a distance (Gwen's point of view). But you're right - Sony (I mean, Oscorp) would have brought him back no doubt.

But Then They More Stuff Set Up.

The Doctor Octopuss Suite, Black Liguid Vile {Venom?}

Lockdown
08-03-2015, 12:01 AM
They never showed him getting sucked into the electrical servers. They just showed him exploding from a distance (Gwen's point of view). But you're right - Sony (I mean, Oscorp) would have brought him back no doubt.
Was I the only one that caught that battery meter in Electro's head was left there on the ground?

James (The Disney Guy)
08-03-2015, 12:02 AM
Why Are We Spoilering?

Lockdown
08-03-2015, 12:02 AM
Proberly Brian Tyler Or One Of The Marvel Compsers, Or Maybe Even Michael Giacchino.. I Donno.
It'd be lovely to hear Tyler's take on a Spidey theme, especially Giacchino. Two of my favorites.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-03-2015, 12:03 AM
You guys are the one still going on and on. Not me, and you know it. You all kept talking about it and bashing me. Mister "look how powerful I am" Sparkybutt HAD to butt in and bash me with no reason. I don't get you guys. I don't. You all started it

I don't know how you guys are making the one I am tonight as my whole persona, I'm probably gonna be better tomorrow, this is just tonight. it tends to happen that people forget the goods and only keep the bad :p

Stop Going On. We Where Having A Civilised Convasation.


It'd be lovely to hear Tyler's take on a Spidey them, especially Giacchino. Two of my favorites.

Yes. That Would Be Interesting.

No Offensive But No Other Threads Are Spoilred....

Lockdown
08-03-2015, 12:05 AM
It's all up to opinion on who started it honestly. You posting about 'score mafia', or the people replying to you. Or even before that, you talking about 'trading circles' and Skeleton saying you have no idea what you're talking about. But it doesn't matter, it's in the past.

I live in the now.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-03-2015, 12:07 AM
Still The New Spider-Man Excites Me. I Want To See New Things And New Villains. Its All Green Goblin I Would Like to See Some Others.

Lockdown
08-03-2015, 12:08 AM
Still The New Spider-Man Excites Me. I Want To See New Things And New Villains. Its All Green Goblin I Would Like to See Some Others.
Yeah, I really liked Venom though, he's one of my all time favorite villains. I love the way he looks. I also loved Spidey's black costume in Spider-man 3, it was bad ass.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-03-2015, 12:09 AM
I want the future.

And a successful Spiderman where studios don't interfere.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-03-2015, 12:09 AM
Yeah, I really liked Venom though, he's one of my all time favorite villains. I love the way he looks. I also loved Spidey's black costume in Spider-man 3, it was bad ass.

Yes 3 Was Good, But Maguire Made Me Cringe. LOL I Had Read Somewhere They Were Making A Venom Film? Based on the Graphic Novel "Venom"

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-03-2015, 12:09 AM
Venom would be nice to see again.
Venom and Carnage!

Lockdown
08-03-2015, 12:10 AM
Yes 3 Was Good, But Maguire Made Me Cringe. LOL I Had Read Somewhere They Were Making A Venom Film? Based on the Graphic Novel "Venom"
Yeah, last I looked it's coming out in 2016. But, usually films get pushed back, maybe it's still on IMDb, I'll check and get back to ya.

EDIT: Dang, IMDb has like nothing on this film, plot is unknown, unknown year. Dang :(

James (The Disney Guy)
08-03-2015, 12:14 AM
Venom would be nice to see again.
Venom and Carnage!

Yes. I Swear I Read An Article About It. I Will Look For It. But It May Have Been Before The Marvel/Sony Deal :(


Yeah, last I looked it's coming out in 2016. But, usually films get pushed back, maybe it's still on IMDb, I'll check and get back to ya.

You Legend!


EDIT: Dang, IMDb has like nothing on this film, plot is unknown, unknown year. Dang :(

Yes, I Can't Find the Article I Think It Was Prior to The Deal.

hack3rman
08-03-2015, 12:16 AM
Yeah, I never saw The Incredible Hulk, but found it kinda weird when they replaced the original actor. Was it because the film did horrible?

I personally like the film a lot! But they replaced Edward Nortan because he was a pain for Marvel to work with apparently. He wanted final say on the script, and edit of the film, as well as a few more things that he wanted control over. So after that, Marvel said "Bye-Bye"

James P.Sullivan
08-03-2015, 12:17 AM
@Lockdown - no, I noticed it too. But to my mind that shot was put there to show you once and for all that Electro really had died. The charge gets lower and lower and then disappears.

Also, the Venom movie was part of Sony's now scrapped ASM franchise. So it went down the toilet along with ASM3 I'm afraid.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-03-2015, 12:18 AM
Please Stop Spoiler LOL.

James P.Sullivan
08-03-2015, 12:20 AM
Please Stop Spoiler LOL.

It's not that much of a bother, and it's only kind to those who haven't seen the film yet. But if Ponyo doesn't care, I'll stop. :)

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Right, I really am going to put my iPod down and get into bed now. Goodnight everyone. Glad this thread has revived.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-03-2015, 12:29 AM
Pft Whatever I Don't Care LOL.

Lockdown
08-03-2015, 01:08 AM
:p

James (The Disney Guy)
08-03-2015, 01:09 AM
You Said It Brov :D

TheSkeletonMan939
08-03-2015, 02:06 AM
"The Rest of My Life" - the OST version is almost boring compared to the film version, which is the most heart-breakingly sad cue I think I've ever heard.

Yeah, the OST version stinks; I listen to this YouTube rip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewgg_doYo_o).


Makes me sad we won't be getting The Amazing Spider-Man 3 :(

Not me. As much as I loved the chemistry Garfield and Stone had... ASM2 was really bad.


Venom would be nice to see again.
Venom and Carnage!

Venom and Carnage ROCK.


I personally like the film a lot! But they replaced Edward Nortan because he was a pain for Marvel to work with apparently. He wanted final say on the script, and edit of the film, as well as a few more things that he wanted control over. So after that, Marvel said "Bye-Bye"

Yeah, Norton enjoyed tinkering (i.e. making massive rewrites) with the script and made all sorts of dumb choices. Like this one. (http://www.cracked.com/article_22340_5-movie-stars-who-demanded-hilariously-insane-plot-changes.html)

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-03-2015, 02:31 AM
Like this one. (http://www.cracked.com/article_22340_5-movie-stars-who-demanded-hilariously-insane-plot-changes.html)

:cryingbatman: I'm going to on that site forever reading article after article.

That's one way to kill the whole day. :laugh:

Back next week.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-03-2015, 02:35 AM
:cryingbatman: I'm going to on that site forever reading article after article.

That's one way to kill the whole day. :laugh:

Back next week.


TheSkeletonMan939
08-03-2015, 02:40 AM
I'm going to on that site forever reading article after article.

That's one way to kill the whole day. :laugh:

Back next week.

The newer articles are sort of lame, read the older ones.

This one is my favorite goofy article (http://www.cracked.com/blog/9-simple-tasks-that-no-one-in-commercial-can-do-right/), and this is my favorite somewhat informative one (http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-ways-marketers-think-were-retarded/) (both written by Seanbaby).

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-03-2015, 02:46 AM
The newer articles are sort of lame, read the older ones.

This one is my favorite goofy article (http://www.cracked.com/blog/9-simple-tasks-that-no-one-in-commercial-can-do-right/), and this is my favorite somewhat informative one (http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-ways-marketers-think-were-retarded/) (both written by Seanbaby).

Aw, that's disappointing to hear.
I really want to archive that site.
I love a lot of the older articles. Spent months reading everything and remembering nothing!

James (The Disney Guy)
08-03-2015, 02:48 AM
I'm Like That Forgetting What I Have Read LOL, Come to Think Of It.....What Are We Talking About :laugh:

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-03-2015, 02:51 AM
:noonecares:

TheSkeletonMan939
08-03-2015, 02:52 AM
Yeah, most Cracked articles these days choose to remove the humor in favor of some sort of... I don't know, a moral or a lesson or something? You can really tell they're trying hard these days to draw in as many high-school/college age young adults as possible.

Killgrave
08-03-2015, 03:24 AM
As much as I loved the chemistry Garfield and Stone had... ASM2 was really bad.

I agree. TASM2 was a collection of comic book cool scenes - let's have a fight in a plane between Pete's dad and a bad guy, let's have a car chase scene straight out of the Blues Brothers, let's have a secret underground lab in a New York subway, let's have a bad guy who gets his powers from genetically modified eels (WTF?), etc ... - and it doesn't matter if they make no sense because we'll just throw Garfield and Stone onscreen, they're so cute and have so much chemistry and the audience will go all melty and gooey inside and go "awwwhhh, they're so cute together" that they won't notice the film makes no sense and was written on the backs of cocktail napkins.

Wrong, boy blunders. We came, we saw, we said "nyet."

And that's why Sony lost its access to the money printing machine that are super hero movies.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-03-2015, 03:29 AM
LOL

James P.Sullivan
08-03-2015, 07:25 AM
I agree. TASM2 was a collection of comic book cool scenes - let's have a fight in a plane between Pete's dad and a bad guy, let's have a car chase scene straight out of the Blues Brothers, let's have a secret underground lab in a New York subway, let's have a bad guy who gets his powers from genetically modified eels (WTF?), etc ... - and it doesn't matter if they make no sense because we'll just throw Garfield and Stone onscreen, they're so cute and have so much chemistry and the audience will go all melty and gooey inside and go "awwwhhh, they're so cute together" that they won't notice the film makes no sense and was written on the backs of cocktail napkins.

Wrong, boy blunders. We came, we saw, we said "nyet."

And that's why Sony lost its access to the money printing machine that are super hero movies.

I agree completely. But I still loved it. Does that make any sense?!

TheSkeletonMan939
08-03-2015, 01:46 PM
I agree completely. But I still loved it. Does that make any sense?!

I've only seen the film once, but I think if I were to see it again, focusing on the parts I knew would be good, I'd probably be able to enjoy it a lot more.

The actors and directors are all talented, the score of course is great, some of the smaller and some of the quieter moments of the film work really well. It's just all the loudness that was hastily added in is what destroyed the movie, and by extension the franchise.

But the whole movie was a mess behind the scenes. James Horner only scored the first film because he liked director Marc Webb, and refused to do the second after the producers and Sony bigwigs muscled their way into the writing process. And Fox held Webb hostage unless Sony agreed to promote X-Men for free (that's why that stupid DoFP post-credits scene is there).

James P.Sullivan
08-03-2015, 03:03 PM
Yeah, Sony were absolute idiots to interfere at all with Webb's plans. They even interfered with TASM so that the so-called "untold story" wasn't really a feature, like the posters and trailers all implicitly implied.

TheSkeletonMan939
08-03-2015, 03:16 PM
Yeah, Sony were absolute idiots to interfere at all with Webb's plans. They even interfered with TASM so that the so-called "untold story" wasn't really a feature, like the posters and trailers all implicitly implied.

That's another thing that killed ASM2, and is probably the reason it grossed so little: marketing. So much of the film was spoiled through the advertising, so much so that Gwen's fate was almost entirely given away.

James P.Sullivan
08-03-2015, 03:24 PM
That's another thing that killed ASM2, and is probably the reason it grossed so little: marketing. So much of the film was spoiled through the advertising, so much so that Gwen's fate was almost entirely given away.

Yep, the entire plot was given away in the trailers. It annoys me so much when studios do that. Like HTTYD 2.

It also annoys me when they stick scenes in the trailers, like ASM2, that don't make the final cut of the film.

James P.Sullivan
08-03-2015, 03:41 PM
Ouch, I swallowed a huge spoiler.

My fault for coming in here, don't worry guys, not blaming you-

And since it was a spoiler I brought myself into, I don't feel very bad for it.

Errr you did? What?

TheSkeletonMan939
08-03-2015, 03:42 PM
Ouch, I swallowed a huge spoiler.

My fault for coming in here, don't worry guys, not blaming you-

And since it was a spoiler I brought myself into, I don't feel very bad for it.

Sorry.

But if you had read the original comics, you'd know Gwen would never have a happy ending anyway.

At least Peter didn't accidentally break her neck this time like he did in the comics.

James P.Sullivan
08-03-2015, 03:52 PM
Sorry.

But if you had read the original comics, you'd know Gwen would never have a happy ending anyway.

At least Peter didn't accidentally break her neck this time like he did in the comics.

I don't know that it was you who gave away a spoiler just then. Ponyo liked your comment just now where you mentioned Gwen's fate and then 12 minutes later he says "Ouch!" That's a delayed reaction right there if that's what he was actually referring to.

So is her neck broken by the abrupt jerk from Spidey's web catching her? Or does her head hit the ground? I thought I could hear it hitting the ground, but it also looks like she broke her neck from the sudden arrest of the fall when the webbing caught her.

I'm glad they scrapped the alternate death scene. Damn, that sounded awful.

TheSkeletonMan939
08-03-2015, 04:04 PM
In the comics Spidey snaps her neck unintentionally, like so:

See that 'snap'?



In the film it looks more like the impact killed her. I don't think a neck-snapping sound would have been PG-13 friendly.

James P.Sullivan
08-03-2015, 04:07 PM
Because I am not really much bothered because it's an accidental spoiler I got myself into, that's why I made a delayed answer, but guys don't worry about it. It's alright!

And I don't really read comics. O:

Well that's ok then. I've also never read the comics, so I personally had no interest in seeing these movies up until last October/November when my best friend persuaded me to watch the first one, as he liked it so much. I was quite happy to, and I ended up absolutely LOVING it. But the problem was, I'd already watched the CinemaSins for ASM2, so I then knew the major plot points before I saw the movie. :p

But you can guarantee that if I'd seen the first one and then had Gwen's death spoiled before I'd seen ASM2, I'd have been very upset and angry.

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In the comics Spidey snaps her neck unintentionally, like so:

See that 'snap'?



In the film it looks more like the impact killed her. I don't think a neck-snapping sound would have been PG-13 friendly.

Yeah, I've seen that before. But you are aware of the alternate death scene that was in the original showing to the ratings people before the main release, aren't you?

TheSkeletonMan939
08-03-2015, 04:09 PM
Yeah, I've seen that before. But you are aware of the alternate death scene that was in the original showing to the ratings people before the main release, aren't you?

O_O

No, I'm not! There's so much of this film tragically left in the cutting room floor! What was it?

James P.Sullivan
08-03-2015, 04:14 PM
O_O

No, I'm not! There's so much of this film tragically left in the cutting room floor! What was it?

As far as I know, everything happens as we already know up to when all three of them are inside the clocktower. But that's when it got different. Peter is somehow unable to reach Goblin, who grabs Gwen and snaps her neck with his bare hands. He then drops her down the tower and Spidey jumps down after her. Realising she is dead, he screams out in anguish whilst Goblin can be heard laughing from the top of the tower. That's what the clip of Peter screaming in the trailer was from. Peter then swings back up to the top of the tower and proceeds in beating the sh*t out of Goblin almost to death.

PG-13? I think not. That's why it was changed, and I for one am jolly glad it was. It's much better how they did it for the final cut.

TheSkeletonMan939
08-03-2015, 04:19 PM
Final cut sounds way better than that. It still makes her death indirectly Peter's fault, the same way Uncle Ben's death was. And the same way Norman's was in the original Spider-Man.

But I'd love to see all the deleted scenes for this film just plopped out on some special release.

James P.Sullivan
08-03-2015, 04:24 PM
Final cut sounds way better than that. It still makes her death indirectly Peter's fault, the same way Uncle Ben's death was. And the same way Norman's was in the original Spider-Man.

But I'd love to see all the deleted scenes for this film just plopped out on some special release.

There were a lot of deleted scenes on the bluray I think. But not the alternate death scene. I guess the whole set would have to be rated 15 for that.

TheSkeletonMan939
08-03-2015, 04:26 PM
There was also a whole subplot about how Harry knew the whole damn time that Peter was Spidey, and he had his house under surveillance.

I wonder how much, if any, music was scored for these unused scenes...

James P.Sullivan
08-03-2015, 04:33 PM
There was also a whole subplot about how Harry knew the whole damn time that Peter was Spidey, and he had his house under surveillance.

I wonder how much, if any, music was scored for these unused scenes...

Well, I don't know about Harry himself knowing, but it was certainly implied that Norman knew and had him under surveillance. And there is that cue title "Oscorp Surveillance / Conspiracy". Sounds like it was written for that scene.

TheSkeletonMan939
08-03-2015, 04:36 PM
Well, I don't know about Harry himself knowing

"What about Peter?" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8MykckiOiU&t=1m34s)

pottyaboutpotter1
08-03-2015, 04:36 PM
Yeah, most Cracked articles these days choose to remove the humor in favor of some sort of... I don't know, a moral or a lesson or something? You can really tell they're trying hard these days to draw in as many high-school/college age young adults as possible.

It's actually because they allow readers to submit articles now and this then led to a lot of SJWs (Social Justice Warriors) from Tumblr using the site as a platform to promote their own warped world views on the site (namely demonizing anyone who's white, male, cis or any combination of the three). This has then led to the downfall of the site as these articles were too busy pushing the writer's agenda over providing quality content. This then drove away a lot of the regular visitors to the site and it took an awfully long time for Cracked to realize what was happening. Cracked is now focused on fixing their image (notice how the more recent articles are more like their classic stuff) so it'll probably take a while for all the regular visitors and some of the good writers to return.

SpiderPool
08-03-2015, 04:37 PM
I think "Oscorp Surveilance/Conspiracy" is when Menken and the man in black suit are spying on Peter and Harry.

pottyaboutpotter1
08-03-2015, 04:42 PM
In the comics Spidey snaps her neck unintentionally, like so:

See that 'snap'?



In the film it looks more like the impact killed her. I don't think a neck-snapping sound would have been PG-13 friendly.

Actually it's deliberately ambiguous. There's just as much evidence for Gwen already being dead when the Goblin threw her from the bridge as there is for the whiplash breaking her neck and killing her. Note how Gwen seems very limp through the whole ordeal and the Goblin seems very certain she is dead.

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There was also a whole subplot about how Harry knew the whole damn time that Peter was Spidey, and he had his house under surveillance.

I wonder how much, if any, music was scored for these unused scenes...

I'm pretty sure the subplot was Harry discovering that his father had Peter under surveillance (as Norman knew Peter was Spidey) but I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure the relevant scenes are on the Blu-Ray anyway as it has considerably more deleted scenes than the DVD, including an alternate ending (I'm 100% certain the "Oscorp has you under surveillance scene is on the Blu-Ray)

James P.Sullivan
08-03-2015, 04:54 PM
"What about Peter?" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8MykckiOiU&t=1m34s)

This is true.

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I think "Oscorp Surveilance/Conspiracy" is when Menken and the man in black suit are spying on Peter and Harry.

This is true.

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Actually it's deliberately ambiguous. There's just as much evidence for Gwen already being dead when the Goblin threw her from the bridge as there is for the whiplash breaking her neck and killing her. Note how Gwen seems very limp through the whole ordeal and the Goblin seems very certain she is dead.

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I'm pretty sure the subplot was Harry discovering that his father had Peter under surveillance (as Norman knew Peter was Spidey) but I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure the relevant scenes are on the Blu-Ray anyway as it has considerably more deleted scenes than the DVD, including an alternate ending (I'm 100% certain the "Oscorp has you under surveillance scene is on the Blu-Ray)

What's the alternate ending? Richard supposedly turning up at the graveyard? That was insane. There was literally no way he could have survived the plane crash at the beginning.

TheSkeletonMan939
08-03-2015, 04:59 PM
What's the alternate ending? Richard supposedly turning up at the graveyard? That was insane. There was literally no way he could have survived the plane crash at the beginning.

Some people theorize it was Mysterio playing a trick on Peter. Or something.

James P.Sullivan
08-03-2015, 05:15 PM
Some people theorize it was Mysterio playing a trick on Peter. Or something.

That's a very outlandish theory. Wow.

ggctuk2005
08-03-2015, 08:55 PM
Or a clone.

pottyaboutpotter1
08-03-2015, 09:32 PM
Or a clone.

Now now now, let's not start Marvel off with clones and Spider-Man again. It didn't turn out well the last time.

HunterTech
08-04-2015, 04:34 AM
Now now now, let's not start Marvel off with clones and Spider-Man again. It didn't turn out well the last time.

That's precisely what Sony was going to do with the rest of the Amazing Spider-Man franchise, starting with TASM3. It would've been terrible, so I'm glad with the current direction in the MCU, even if It's questionable at the moment.

ggctuk2005
08-04-2015, 07:49 AM
Questionable? How so? The past four films have done really well.

HunterTech
08-04-2015, 08:04 AM
Questionable? How so? The past four films have done really well.
I'm talking about the writers. They just did Vacation, which has received terrible reception. They also did Horrible Bosses, which doesn't sound like the kind of humor that fits Spidey. It's the thing that keeps reminding me that Sony is still a part of this, and that Marvel aren't calling all the shots. It's worrisome.

ggctuk2005
08-04-2015, 08:09 AM
I see your point. But we shall have to see what happens.

HunterTech
08-04-2015, 08:20 AM
I see your point. But we shall have to see what happens.
I suppose, but it's the first time Marvel has to work with another company to make a film. Anything can happen.

pottyaboutpotter1
08-04-2015, 08:26 AM
I'm talking about the writers. They just did Vacation, which has received terrible reception. They also did Horrible Bosses, which doesn't sound like the kind of humor that fits Spidey. It's the thing that keeps reminding me that Sony is still a part of this, and that Marvel aren't calling all the shots. It's worrisome.

You can't judge how well a director/writer will do on a film by their past credits. The last film the Russo Brothers directed before The Winter Soldier was You, Me And Dupree. Looking at You, Me And Dupree you'd think they'd be a terrible fit for Captain America: The Winter Soldier, yet it ended up as one of the better (if not the best) entries in the MCU and incredibly well directed with Civil War and Infinity War looking the same. Same with Sam Rami. Was a director more known for horror movies a good fit for a superhero film? Turns out he was. I'm not worried about the writers for Spider-Man or the director. Just because they wrote films with comedy that doesn't suit Spidey, it doesn't mean all their comedy is like that. And besides, every screenwriter has a few terrible films on their resume. David Benioff (one of the showrunners of Game of Thrones) has a writing credit for X-Men: Origins Wolverine, yet Game of Thrones proves he can write an excellent script. Also you're assuming that Marvel won't do what they always do and have other writers look over the script to make sure it's up to scratch (Joss Whedon looked over the scripts for phase 2 and even ended up rewriting a large part of Thor: The Dark World).

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Alleged "leaked" cast list for the Spider-Man reboot:

Peter Parker/Spider-Man - Tom Holland

Adrian Toomes/The Vulture - Billy Zane

Mac Gargan/Scorpion - Jason Biggs

Aunt May - Marisa Tomei

Tony Stark/Iron Man - Robert Downey Jr

Mary Jane Watson - Rachel G. Fox

Harry Osborne - Timothee Chalamet

Liz Allen - Sami Gale

Flash Thompson - Jacob Latimore

J. Jonah Jameson - Hugh Laurie

Robbie Robertson - Forest Whitaker

Betty Brant - Miranda Cosgrove

Ned Leeds - Tyler Posey

HunterTech
08-04-2015, 09:25 AM
You can't judge how well a director/writer will do on a film by their past credits. The last film the Russo Brothers directed before The Winter Soldier was You, Me And Dupree. Looking at You, Me And Dupree you'd think they'd be a terrible fit for Captain America: The Winter Soldier, yet it ended up as one of the better (if not the best) entries in the MCU and incredibly well directed with Civil War and Infinity War looking the same. Same with Sam Rami. Was a director more known for horror movies a good fit for a superhero film? Turns out he was. I'm not worried about the writers for Spider-Man or the director. Just because they wrote films with comedy that doesn't suit Spidey, it doesn't mean all their comedy is like that. And besides, every screenwriter has a few terrible films on their resume. David Benioff (one of the showrunners of Game of Thrones) has a writing credit for X-Men: Origins Wolverine, yet Game of Thrones proves he can write an excellent script. Also you're assuming that Marvel won't do what they always do and have other writers look over the script to make sure it's up to scratch (Joss Whedon looked over the scripts for phase 2 and even ended up rewriting a large part of Thor: The Dark World).

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Alleged "leaked" cast list for the Spider-Man reboot:

Peter Parker/Spider-Man - Tom Holland

Adrian Toomes/The Vulture - Billy Zane

Mac Gargan/Scorpion - Jason Biggs

Aunt May - Marisa Tomei

Tony Stark/Iron Man - Robert Downey Jr

Mary Jane Watson - Rachel G. Fox

Harry Osborne - Timothee Chalamet

Liz Allen - Sami Gale

Flash Thompson - Jacob Latimore

J. Jonah Jameson - Hugh Laurie

Robbie Robertson - Forest Whitaker

Betty Brant - Miranda Cosgrove

Ned Leeds - Tyler Posey
Again, I suppose. But with the filmmakers you mentioned, at least they had plenty of work beforehand. The guys who are writing, as well the director? Don't think they've done much. However, anything is possible, so I'll reserve proper judgement until the movie gets released two years from now.

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Also, there's no way they've cast all the characters at this point of time. Considering it's still in development, I'm pretty sure they haven't decided on which characters are going to appear in the film.Who the hell is Ned Leeds?

James P.Sullivan
08-04-2015, 09:45 AM
Hugh Laurie as JJJ?? That's got to be worth it. I hope that casting rumour is true at least.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-04-2015, 09:48 AM
Alleged "leaked" cast list for the Spider-Man reboot:

Peter Parker/Spider-Man - Tom Holland

Adrian Toomes/The Vulture - Billy Zane

Mac Gargan/Scorpion - Jason Biggs

Aunt May - Marisa Tomei

Tony Stark/Iron Man - Robert Downey Jr

Mary Jane Watson - Rachel G. Fox

Harry Osborne - Timothee Chalamet

Liz Allen - Sami Gale

Flash Thompson - Jacob Latimore

J. Jonah Jameson - Hugh Laurie

Robbie Robertson - Forest Whitaker

Betty Brant - Miranda Cosgrove

Ned Leeds - Tyler Posey
Billy Zane As Vulture.. Ain't He The Guy From Titanic?
Hugh Laurie...Hm I Donno It Does Not Seem Like A Film/Role He Would Take.(Like Whn He Was Supposed To Be The Villain In The Robocop Remake) Hope So Tho.

Good Old Tony/Downy Jr :D

ggctuk2005
08-04-2015, 09:57 AM
I don't buy into that list at all. They don't even have a finalised story yet.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-04-2015, 09:58 AM
I don't buy into that list at all. They don't even have a finalised story yet.

Maybe Its More Of A Wish List...

pottyaboutpotter1
08-04-2015, 09:59 AM
Who the hell is Ned Leeds?

A reporter for the daily bugle who's romantically involved with Betty Brant. He was originally the first Hobgoblin before it was retconned (although Leeds is still the Hobgoblin in some adaptations). His presence in the cast list here implies that Marvel plan on having the Hobgoblin in a future sequel.


there's no way they've cast all the characters at this point of time. Considering it's still in development, I'm pretty sure they haven't decided on which characters are going to appear in the film.

The leaked cast list states most of the actors are still in talks or in final negotiations.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-04-2015, 10:04 AM
The leaked cast list states most of the actors are still in talks or in final negotiations.

Well I Don't Know More Than Half Of Them LOL. But I Think It Will Be Okay. At Least By The Sounds Its A Different Villain. I Was Starting to Get Bored With Goblin.

James P.Sullivan
08-04-2015, 10:35 AM
He was suitably creepy in ASM2 though. I quite liked him as a villain. Pity he won't be coming back, like Garfield.

http://static.mmzstatic.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/gobelin.gif

HunterTech
08-04-2015, 10:36 PM
The leaked cast list states most of the actors are still in talks or in final negotiations.
That's what they kept saying about Asa Butterfield, and look what happend to him...

ScoreDude1985
08-05-2015, 12:22 AM
I can't see any of these at all except Rachel G. Fox or RDJ as Iron Man. The cast list is awful.

ggctuk2005
08-05-2015, 07:45 AM
Well, RDJ as Iron Man is a given in any film Iron Man appears in :p

ScoreDude1985
08-12-2015, 09:13 AM
Well, RDJ as Iron Man is a given in any film Iron Man appears in :p

Well yeah, I know that XD :P

James (The Disney Guy)
08-12-2015, 09:25 AM
I Personally Am Open to Anything. :D

James P.Sullivan
08-12-2015, 09:35 AM
RDJ as Iron Man is a given in any film Iron Man appears in.


I Personally Am Open to Anything. :D

http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1537/15371732/2814926-59066-robert-downey-jr-deal-with-it-zetx.gif

thepersona
10-03-2015, 05:34 PM
Glad to notice the forum is back on track :), I know this may get a bit annoying but hey the last time I asked a question in regards to the sessions for this the net days it was a pretty active thread, so i'll try again lol. Is there any update in regards to this? Is it at least out in the trading circles? :)

James P.Sullivan
10-03-2015, 05:41 PM
Glad to notice the forum is back on track :), I know this may get a bit annoying but hey the last time I asked a question in regards to the sessions for this the net days it was a pretty active thread, so i'll try again lol. Is there any update in regards to this? Is it at least out in the trading circles? :)

Not that we know of. I personally believe it is in the top trading circles. But who knows how long it'll take before it gets down to us plebs?!

Killgrave
10-03-2015, 08:58 PM
A lot of people derive pleasure from a good old fashioned private gloat. Never underestimate the pleasure attached to giving everyone "the finger."

ScoreDude1985
10-09-2015, 09:04 AM
It will leak....it always does.......I waited years to get the sessions I wanted....just give it "time".

(MAT)themes
10-27-2015, 12:18 PM
Still no leak? I want the complete sessions so bad!

Killgrave
10-27-2015, 12:58 PM
Yeah, well, get in line with the rest of us. The sessions will leak when they leak. There is no timetable.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-27-2015, 01:05 PM
Still no leak? I want the complete sessions so bad!

Give it a few years. They'll leak in time.

James P.Sullivan
10-27-2015, 04:07 PM
I watched this movie AGAIN last night with a friend who hadn't seen it yet. It gets better with each viewing. You look past its faults and begin to really appreciate the superb filmmaking that went into it.

The day the sessions leak will be a very good day.

James (The Disney Guy)
10-27-2015, 04:08 PM
I Liked ASM2 But Felt It Could Have Been Much More.

DAKoftheOTA
10-27-2015, 04:29 PM
I pity the fools who live in Monstropolis that call this superb filmmaking

Killgrave
10-27-2015, 05:51 PM
I watched this movie AGAIN last night with a friend who hadn't seen it yet. It gets better with each viewing. You look past its faults and begin to really appreciate the superb filmmaking that went into it.

The day the sessions leak will be a very good day.

James, you are having a laugh at our expense, right? Or did you recently receive a massive blow to the head?

DAKoftheOTA
10-27-2015, 06:06 PM
James, you are having a laugh at our expense, right? Or did you recently receive a massive blow to the head?

I'm hoping it's no head injury. I'm concerned.

Look, do I enjoy the movie? Yes. Is it a bad movie? Yes. Did it kill any hopes of a franchise? Yes. But is it "superb filmmaking"? No.

But you have to remember he's a virgin compared to all the things we've seen. He's slowly getting there, and in due time he'll realize what a crapfest this movie is. Hell, even Transformers (all 4) is a crapfest but I fucking love those movies.

Killgrave
10-27-2015, 06:28 PM
Amen. We all have movies that we like/love but really shouldn't. Cobra makes me laugh, I enjoy the hell out of it - much as I did that ripoff, er, homage, er, remake, of Escape from NY called Lockout, mostly for Guy Pearce's performance, the man nailed the art of sarcastic delivery - but there is no way in Hell I would call either "superb filmmaking." That's just an insult to all the superb films out there.

As for Transformers, you're better man than I, Gunga Din. I stopped after the first film. The only good thing about the movies is Jablonsky's scores.

DAKoftheOTA
10-27-2015, 06:50 PM
As for Transformers, you're better man than I, Gunga Din. I stopped after the first film. The only good thing about the movies is Jablonsky's scores.

Yes, at least they have his beautiful work as their saving grace. As for the films themselves, it's my childhood brought to life. Larger-than-life, actually.

HunterTech
10-28-2015, 01:58 AM
TASM2 isn't awful. It's just that it's very unremarkable, especially compared to other superhero films. Spider-Man 3, while flawed, definitely had it's moments and ideas, to the point I would recommend the novelization, since it flows better and some characters are better written, though several of the flaws from the film still stand. Granted, I haven't seen Amazing 2 since it's theater release, so my opinions can change on second watch (I mean, I do own the film). But all that film managed to was ensure Spidey came back to Marvel.

James P.Sullivan
10-28-2015, 02:22 AM
I pity the fools who live in Monstropolis that call this superb filmmaking

James, you are having a laugh at our expense, right? Or did you recently receive a massive blow to the head?

...you have to remember he's a virgin compared to all the things we've seen. He's slowly getting there, and in due time he'll realize what a crapfest this movie is.

Very funny, chaps. But I'm afraid you aren't looking at it the way I am. All you're looking at is what the average movie-goer is looking at: the surface, and nothing more. Have either of you studied film production? You better believe me when I say there is some superb filmmaking in ASM2. I'm not talking about the writing or the acting - I'm talking about the production. The cinematography. The mise-en-sc�ne. The editing. The sound design. The colour palette. The costume design. The score. The special effects. The set design.

So please - don't call me ignorant when it comes to filmmaking. Contrary to what it may seem like, I do know what I'm talking about. You both know very well what I think of the writing and plot of ASM2 in general. I think it's a mess. I've said so many times before. I've said how I was very disappointed by the film from a mucked-up story perspective. But implying that I don't know what I'm talking about just because I haven't seen some cult classics simply isn't true. I've seen a ton of films and since the start of my BAHons degree in Film Production I've seen a good few more and done proper film analysis.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-28-2015, 02:25 AM
I actually agree with Sulley; on a surfacey level the film is a waste of time and money. But if you block out all the nonsensicalness that goes on there's really a lot of clever work that went into the production. As he said - cinematography, sound design, sound mixing... even the wardrobe department. I believe Gwen wears the same clothes she does in the comic where she dies.

The guys actually making the movie seemed like highly competent people; if only those damn execs hadn't stumbled in halfway and changed everything, who knows what film we might have gotten in terms of plot?

DAKoftheOTA
10-28-2015, 02:41 AM
Sully you know I was just busting your chops, right? In no way did I mean to call you ignorant if that's how you took it. And for that I apologize.

But yes you are right in the fact that there's so much more to a film than writing, plot and everything else that made this film a mess. I definitely overlooked those things here. But that's not to say I've also overlooked them on other films. Say for example, films I actually really enjoy yet get berated. And I can relate in the slightest. I went to school. I did bts stuff. And that was all technical stuff. There are so many elements to putting a film together, it's ridiculous.

James P.Sullivan
10-28-2015, 02:57 AM
Sully you know I was just busting your chops, right? In no way did I mean to call you ignorant if that's how you took it. And for that I apologize.

Apology accepted. I know you never mean to actually offend people. Well, most people. ;)

But the whole "you've never seen anything compared to the rest of the world" thing is beginning to get kinda tiresome.


But yes you are right in the fact that there's so much more to a film than writing, plot and everything else that made this film a mess. I definitely overlooked those things here. But that's not to say I've also overlooked them on other films. Say for example, films I actually really enjoy yet get berated. And I can relate in the slightest. I went to school. I did bts stuff. And that was all technical stuff. There are so many elements to putting a film together, it's ridiculous.

Yep, and it's not just the practical side of things such as cameras/lighting/sound/etc. There's so much creative and artistic input for a film besides the writing, especially the cinematography and the mise-en-sc�ne. And the order and way in which shots and scenes are cut together in the editing. It all comes down to a fundamental knowledge of how the human mind works and what the best ways are of taking advantage of that knowledge.

DAKoftheOTA
10-28-2015, 03:12 AM
Apology accepted. I know you never mean to actually offend people. Well, most people. ;)

But the whole "you've never seen anything compared to the rest of the world" thing is beginning to get kinda tiresome.

Nah, only those who have it coming do I offend.

And I know sometimes I can go a little too far when poking fun. Sue me, I'm human. Or am I a robot? :awsm:

James P.Sullivan
10-28-2015, 03:18 AM
Sue me, I'm human. Or am I a robot?

Or both...?

:awsm:

Killgrave
10-28-2015, 04:56 AM
Well, now that Sully burned down the trees I can see the forest. When I read your post about film production I wondered if you meant the effort that went into the film's creation. But since people are often so inaccurate or inarticulate when describing anything in print I wrongly went with Door Number Two. I should have realized how exacting the denizens of Monstropolis are, especially those folks taking film production classes.

My bad.

I agree that ASM2 is a good looking film, very good looking. But coming from the world of print before transitioning into video the script is my first priority. If the script is a good one I will forgive a lot on the production side and cut them some slack on the camera work, but not much. Same with editing but again not much. However, if the script is weak or lazy or poorly constructed I don't care how good it looks. (Transformers looks great but the scripts are utter rubbish and Bay edits them like he's a 12 year old boy with an on line porn addiction who's just chain slammed a six pack of Red Bull.)

Which is why I stopped with the first film. (The exception are the films whose ineptitude have achieved a transcendent state like Cobra or Maximum Overdrive.)

So, how's the course coming? Enjoying it? You planning on going into film production or some associated field once you've graduated from Monster U?

DAKoftheOTA
10-28-2015, 05:18 AM
But coming from the world of print before transitioning into video the script is my first priority. If the script is a good one I will forgive a lot on the production side and cut them some slack on the camera work, but not much. Same with editing but again not much. However, if the script is weak or lazy or poorly constructed I don't care how good it looks.

I guess I lucked out that my favorite film happened to win the Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay - Almost Famous. To me, it is a near-perfect film. Now that I'm talking about it, I may put it on when I go to bed in a little bit.
Never been able to relate more to a film ever than when Philip Seymour Hoffman uttered these lines:

http://i.imgur.com/KqnnYTm.gif
"Never take it seriously. If you never take it seriously, you never get hurt. If you never get hurt, you always have fun. And if you ever get lonely, just go to the record store.....and visit your friends".

James P.Sullivan
11-05-2015, 04:28 AM
I just watched the last half hour of the movie again. There's so much unreleased material that I don't even notice normally, I get so caught up in the story. Like the cue when Spider-Man visits Harry.

*deep sigh*

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So, how's the course coming? Enjoying it? You planning on going into film production or some associated field once you've graduated from Monster U?

It's going ok, thanks. We've been divided up into groups and I've ended up being nominated as director for both short films my groups need to make by the end of this semester. One is a short documentary and the other is a 5-minute drama. So it's up to me to do a lot of work before we begin filming either project. I'm really excited about the drama - I think my idea has the potential to really work well, even if it's only five minutes long. I managed to successfully pitch the idea to my crew and after a lengthy discussion they bought it.

After graduation, I'm looking at becoming an independent filmmaker. I'll be looking for work, as well as being self-employed making my own films. The more contacts the better. We'll see where it goes. :)

Killgrave
11-05-2015, 06:48 AM
I just watched the last half hour of the movie again. There's so much unreleased material that I don't even notice normally, I get so caught up in the story. Like the cue when Spider-Man visits Harry.

*deep sigh*


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It's going ok, thanks. We've been divided up into groups and I've ended up being nominated as director for both short films my groups need to make by the end of this semester. One is a short documentary and the other is a 5-minute drama. So it's up to me to do a lot of work before we begin filming either project. I'm really excited about the drama - I think my idea has the potential to really work well, even if it's only five minutes long. I managed to successfully pitch the idea to my crew and after a lengthy discussion they bought it.

In regards to TASM, take Elsa's advice James, and just let it go.

The more pre-planning you can do, the better. Also, shoot a good quantity of b-roll and don't forget the wide shots, close-ups and extreme close-ups. (If you can manage an overheard shot or two get them.) The aforementioned will save your sanity when it comes time to edit.

Then post your final product on line. The more eyes that see it . . .

HunterTech
11-08-2015, 07:19 AM
I had re watched most of TASM2 on my last week's visit to Las Vegas. This may now be my one movie where I have no opinion. It just exists in my head. There is just so many things to it that I can't even consider it a movie. It was well made production wise, but it overall does nothing for me. I can't hate it, love it, or find it mediocre. It's just there.

pottyaboutpotter1
11-08-2015, 02:59 PM
My dream that will never happen is that the sessions for TASM2 will leak sometime next year as they'll hopefully decrease in value once there's another Hans Zimmer Superhero Score to become the new top prize for the traders. Never gonna happen but I like to think it will.

James P.Sullivan
11-08-2015, 03:04 PM
My dream that will never happen is that the sessions for TASM2 will leak sometime next year as they'll hopefully decrease in value once there's another Hans Zimmer Superhero Score to become the new top prize for the traders. Never gonna happen but I like to think it will.

I like to dream this dream too. :)

ScoreDude1985
11-08-2015, 10:33 PM
How did we get lucky to get the TDKR sessions three months after the film's release and its taking us months to get the ASM2 sessions?

Killgrave
11-08-2015, 10:53 PM
Ah, maybe because someone decided to leak the TDKR sessions three month's after the film's release? Plus ASM2 managed, to paraphrase Sir Bart of Simpson, both suck and blow at the same time and who wants to be associated with that level of failure and incompetence?

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I like to dream this dream too. :)

James, on this topic you're becoming the leper picking at his own scabs. Keep this up and we're going to have to mount an ASM2 intervention.

Or exorcism.

I command by the power of Zimmer and cast out you demons of mediocrity! Begone and infest the next Michael Bay film!

Maybe Emma or Andrew can officiate the proceedings.

James P.Sullivan
11-08-2015, 11:07 PM
Maybe Emma or Andrew can officiate the proceedings.


Shad
11-09-2015, 12:33 AM
Lathering the pooped stocking

James P.Sullivan
11-09-2015, 01:56 AM
Lathering the pooped stocking

Wrong thread, poo head.

TheSkeletonMan939
11-09-2015, 03:45 AM
Maybe Emma or Andrew can officiate the proceedings.

Not a chance, I think they broke up. Or maybe they're back together again. I don't know.

Killgrave
11-09-2015, 06:35 AM
Not a chance, I think they broke up. Or maybe they're back together again. I don't know.

In Sully's mind they're still together: Pete's teaching at a magnet school and joined the Avengers while Gwen's running OsCorp as CEO and President. And Captain Stacey's still alive. (He was dead but then he got better.)

James P.Sullivan
11-09-2015, 09:49 AM
lol

thepersona
11-26-2015, 07:31 PM
Has anyone found out if this score has been de valued at all considering that the movie was out almost 2 years ago, Is there a score out there that de vlaues this making this easier to possibly leak :) I still have hope for this to leak by then end of 2016 or even the beginning of it. I want to hear the opening logos theme so badly lol Anywho Weeping aside, I know captain america complete score is out and being shared, however it has yet to leak on here, but its coming close, maybe when Civil war comes out it might see the light of day. But until the I amongst the rest of the shrine are eagerly waiting for the amazing spider man 2 sessions as we'll as captain america winter wolsider sessions, and demos. :) my rant is done lol I figured i'd do something to get some energy back to this thread isn't that right sully? :)

Killgrave
11-26-2015, 08:58 PM
Persona, your grammar, spelling and punctuation are horrible. I had to read your post several times to understand just what the hell you are saying. You wrote that post for the world to see and that's your best work? Have you heard or used grammar or spell check? You're judged and your request is judged by the quality of your writing and what you wrote is garbage.

The value of a score is entirely subjective. Sully places a high value on it and would have a joygasm, probably followed by a stroke, if TASM2 ever surfaced. DAK would probably mutter "it's about god-damned time" and others on this forum, especially the League of Anti-Zimmers would shrug and go "meh." The "value" of a score has nothing to do with the speed with which it is released. There's no central authority in charge of making value judgments on the merits of a score and when they are released. Somebody or somebodies have it and will decide to release it or not release it.

And while we await its release or non-release, go back and refresh your grammar and writing skills. Or failing that, find your English teachers and slap them.

TheSkeletonMan939
11-26-2015, 09:00 PM
Has anyone found out if this score has been de valued at all considering that the movie was out almost 2 years ago, Is there a score out there that de vlaues this making this easier to possibly leak :)

Yeah, that's why we got the Prisoner of Azkaban sessions.

Oh wait...

James P.Sullivan
11-26-2015, 11:24 PM
Sully places a high value on it and would have a joygasm, probably followed by a stroke, if TASM2 ever surfaced.

Because somehow, yet again, Zimmer has touched my heart-strings with his music. Parts of the ASM2 score (certain melodies, chord progressions, and orchestrations) are pricelessly beautiful. Most people who hate on it are those who haven't actually given it any time. All they've listened to are the synth-based, heavy Electro motifs and they think that Zimmer has gone nuts and reverted to dubstep instead of composing. If you give it time, and actually listen to the entire score, it's worth so much more.

But you're right - I probably would have a stroke if it surfaced here.

thepersona
11-27-2015, 01:45 AM
Persona, your grammar, spelling and punctuation are horrible. I had to read your post several times to understand just what the hell you are saying. You wrote that post for the world to see and that's your best work? Have you heard or used grammar or spell check? You're judged and your request is judged by the quality of your writing and what you wrote is garbage.

The value of a score is entirely subjective. Sully places a high value on it and would have a joygasm, probably followed by a stroke, if TASM2 ever surfaced. DAK would probably mutter "it's about god-damned time" and others on this forum, especially the League of Anti-Zimmers would shrug and go "meh." The "value" of a score has nothing to do with the speed with which it is released. There's no central authority in charge of making value judgments on the merits of a score and when they are released. Somebody or somebodies have it and will decide to release it or not release it.

And while we await its release or non-release, go back and refresh your grammar and writing skills. Or failing that, find your English teachers and slap them.

Thanks for the input ill definitely keep that in mind :)

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though in all fairness I just wanted to get this thread going again. Kill grave i didn't get asked to be insulted, however I was in a rush when typing and I really don't care much about grammar in the sense that rereading my post, I only notice a few spelling errors and lack of periods and capitals, I didn't ask to get insulted so please keep the insults to yourself, theres a difference between criticism and insults so i'd appreciate you not insulting me for no apparent reason.

thepersona
11-27-2015, 09:15 PM
Because somehow, yet again, Zimmer has touched my heart-strings with his music. Parts of the ASM2 score (certain melodies, chord progressions, and orchestrations) are pricelessly beautiful. Most people who hate on it are those who haven't actually given it any time. All they've listened to are the synth-based, heavy Electro motifs and they think that Zimmer has gone nuts and reverted to dubstep instead of composing. If you give it time, and actually listen to the entire score, it's worth so much more.

But you're right - I probably would have a stroke if it surfaced here.

Hey Sully, what are the tracks you're looking forward to hearing the most? :)

James P.Sullivan
11-27-2015, 09:33 PM
Hey Sully, what are the tracks you're looking forward to hearing the most? :)

A fair few:

The film version of the opening cue
The plane fight
The Spidey montage
Part II of the final Electro fight
The film version of Gwen's death

And lots, lots more.

You?

Lockdown
11-27-2015, 09:57 PM
Yeah well it's still not out there so don't get your hopes up

TheSkeletonMan939
11-27-2015, 10:13 PM
Yeah well it's still not out there so don't get your hopes up

No Lockdown! Don't give up hope!

https://31.media.tumblr.com/c6c0e973e8f4eeb0df88395fead6af0f/tumblr_n47aykuv5K1r0s8vro3_500.gif

thepersona
11-28-2015, 12:57 AM
A fair few:

The film version of the opening cue
The plane fight
The Spidey montage
Part II of the final Electro fight
The film version of Gwen's death

And lots, lots more.

You?

My main cue i'm seeking are as follows heck if I have just the first one I'm good lol

opening logos, when richard kills the spiders
peter remembers, flashback of his parents
spidey montage, when gwen breaks up with him
Oscorp surveillance, when harry tells peter that oscorp was spying on him
film version of the underground train station
the D train, when he finds coins in his fathers calculator
as well as the film version of gwens funeral and last but not least the unreleased version of There he is on the soundtrack. (It can be heard in the beginning of the times square promo

Hopefully kill grave doesn't massacre me for my grammar again lol :)

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No Lockdown! Don't give up hope!

https://31.media.tumblr.com/c6c0e973e8f4eeb0df88395fead6af0f/tumblr_n47aykuv5K1r0s8vro3_500.gif


We must never give up, always have hope

ScoreDude1985
12-07-2015, 09:19 AM
I believe it may soon appear !!

James P.Sullivan
12-07-2015, 11:14 AM
I believe it may soon appear !!

Really? How come?

Killgrave
12-07-2015, 03:56 PM
Really? How come?

He subscribes to a delusional belief system?

TheSkeletonMan939
12-07-2015, 06:57 PM
The only reason those ten cues leaked is because they were used in the film's ad campaign. There's no indication whatsoever about where the sessions are at.

No one has the sessions; get over it already.

ScoreDude1985
12-07-2015, 10:47 PM
He subscribes to a delusional belief system?

OR maybe because somebody has it and will eventually leak it? The popular demand of this is going to remain until the day it comes out so people will have hopes.

Killgrave
12-07-2015, 11:14 PM
OR maybe because somebody has it and will eventually leak it? The popular demand of this is going to remain until the day it comes out so people will have hopes.

Riiiiiiiight. The movie has been out for more than a year and fans have demanded the release of the complete score since day one. So, suddenly, after all this time, the owner(s) of the complete score are going to cave and release it?

That's called magical thinking, believing something will happen simply because you wish it. And the world doesn't work like that. The score will get released whenever its holders decide to release it and wish will not speed up the progress.

ScoreDude1985
12-08-2015, 03:37 AM
I'm being opitmistic as well as others out there.

James P.Sullivan
12-08-2015, 04:48 AM
I'm being opitmistic as well as others out there.

It's good to be optimistic. :)

Killgrave
12-08-2015, 04:51 AM
I'm being opitmistic as well as others out there.

That piece of puffery would have been so much more stirring if only you'd spelled "optimistic" correctly.

ScoreDude1985
12-08-2015, 05:10 AM
That piece of puffery would have been so much more stirring if only you'd spelled "optimistic" correctly.


W/e dude.

James P.Sullivan
12-08-2015, 05:16 AM
That piece of puffery would have been so much more stirring if only you'd spelled "optimistic" correctly.

Seriously, Killgrave, back off a bit, would you? Just chill a little and try not to be so witty/clever/above everyone else. You're not the best thing since sliced bread (and no, don't make a joke out of that - you know what's meant by that phrase). You actually come across as quite offensive regularly, but I do my best to ignore it most of the time. I'm not trying to cause a verbal war here - just speaking what I've been thinking for a while. I'd really appreciate it if you'd take it to heart.

HunterTech
12-08-2015, 06:17 AM
Seriously, Killgrave, back off a bit, would you? Just chill a little and try not to be so witty/clever/above everyone else. You're not the best thing since sliced bread (and no, don't make a joke out of that - you know what's meant by that phrase). You actually come across as quite offensive regularly, but I do my best to ignore it most of the time. I'm not trying to cause a verbal war here - just speaking what I've been thinking for a while. I'd really appreciate it if you'd take it to heart.

Well, his name is Killgrave, so...

Killgrave
12-08-2015, 06:39 AM
Seriously, Killgrave, back off a bit, would you? Just chill a little and try not to be so witty/clever/above everyone else. You're not the best thing since sliced bread (and no, don't make a joke out of that - you know what's meant by that phrase). You actually come across as quite offensive regularly, but I do my best to ignore it most of the time. I'm not trying to cause a verbal war here - just speaking what I've been thinking for a while. I'd really appreciate it if you'd take it to heart.

Owwww! I believed I have been spanked.

Please, sir, make I have another?

But seriously, Sully you are right. I am an incredibly sarcastic person, both online and in the real world. (And I am most definitely not the greatest thing since sliced bread. Now, processed cheese spread . . . ) And it comes with a cost. For example, tonight it's just me. And my high powered telescope. Or as I like to call it "my home entertainment center."

But somethings are, in the immortal words of Hall and Oates, better left unsaid. So, I will endeavor, to tamp down the sarcasm. I mean, there's even heated rhetoric going around and I should not add to it.

Just one favor: please, everyone, engage spellcheck. It's not that difficult. Work with me on this one.

James (The Disney Guy)
12-08-2015, 07:13 AM
Lol. Everyone Getting uptight over this album never ceases to make me laugh.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
12-08-2015, 07:15 AM
I miss Tobey McGuire.

James (The Disney Guy)
12-08-2015, 07:17 AM
I miss Tobey McGuire.

Yh...and the scores to those 3 were better aswell... ;)

HunterTech
12-09-2015, 04:05 AM
Yh...and the scores to those 3 were better aswell... ;)

Still a bit confused as to why 3 never had an official release. May have to do with the Danny Elfman cues and the uncredited secondary composers replicating it.

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I miss Tobey McGuire.

I definitely appreciate his portrayal Peter Parker. I relate to him so much in comparison to the all over the place portrayal of Garfield.

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Lol. Everyone Getting uptight over this album never ceases to make me laugh.

That's not very kind. As you can see, there are many fans of this score. It may have gotten crazy at points, but we're very appreciate of what we have regardless.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
12-09-2015, 04:11 AM
That's not very kind.

This whole thread is not very kind.
That was the point.

James P.Sullivan
12-09-2015, 04:34 AM
This whole thread is not very kind.
That was the point.

Well thanks a lot, Sparks. I suppose you'll be shutting it down next?

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
12-09-2015, 04:58 AM
Well thanks a lot, Sparks. I suppose you'll be shutting it down next?

:laugh: Don't flatter yourself.

I'm not mod here.
I find what goes on here is comical.
The incessant "wishing" and "hoping". Probably where Killgrave is coming from with his banters on some of the posts here.

I think the few of us have just been stating the drama that comes up over this score.

Sure, sure, there's a lot that are "nice" and "soft" people.
But since it's stuff not widely available, something always happens to make all this sound like an even more desperate crusade.

Mr Gold and Killgrave are onto something.

I come in and suddenly you single me out?
Grow up, child.

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I'm not mod here, and you know that.

So go ahead and draw your guns for drama.
It's well deserved here, imHo.

James (The Disney Guy)
12-09-2015, 09:18 AM
Yes.

My Point Was Not Kind Your Opinion. My Point Was Correct. You Argue Over A Soundtrack You Do Not Have, Or Argue Becuase Its Not Rreleased Yet.
It May Well Never Be Posted. Be Greatful For What You Do Have.

Its Like Watching A Group Of Pirates Kill Each Other Over A Very Small Chest Of Treasure, And To Me Its A Huge Laugh.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
12-10-2015, 04:23 AM
We need a nice Captain Teague gif.

James P.Sullivan
12-10-2015, 07:55 AM
I'm not mod here, and you know that.

I actually didn't know that. So pfft.

HunterTech
12-13-2015, 08:00 AM
This whole thread is not very kind.
That was the point.

I though the point was supposed to be to talk about a score from a movie. Was I lied to?

James (The Disney Guy)
12-13-2015, 08:08 AM
It seems now, to be about praying and begging for the sessions lol.

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-13-2015, 09:37 AM
It seems now, to be about praying and begging for the sessions lol.

PLEASE! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!!........ I beg of you!!! Have mercy!!!! :laugh:

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We need a nice Captain Teague gif.

Why do I still feel like you are just Kevin Spacey sitting behind a desk in front of a computer just typin it up? :p

Edit: Although I realize a lot of you probably feel like I'm George Costanza doing the same thing, just typin it up! ;) :laugh:

Dave999
01-06-2016, 02:37 PM
We already have 10 cues thanks to DAK's upload so there's no shame in being hopeful. There, I said it.

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On the other hand, I don't know what everyone is complaining about if we already have Garage's complete version (Thread 178380). Is that dude still around or is he slowly becoming the stuff of legends?

ggctuk2005
01-06-2016, 04:14 PM
Garage's complete version isn't truly complete, especially as it uses BR rip so is laden with sound effects and the score was no doubt edited for the film.

At least he was upfront about it this time.

MasterChiefrules
01-13-2016, 06:51 AM
Never really bothered to watch the film at release. I recently did, and I love the track from the opening scene.

thepersona
01-13-2016, 09:51 PM
you and me both brother, from the starting of the sony logo all the way until the marvel logo, that cue is simply amazing and wish it was released on the soundtrack. Hopefully the sessions or even a complete score comes up soon, or at least some one shares that cue alone lol. If that cue alone were to make its way here I would be content for a long time until if the sessions leak lol

futhark
01-30-2016, 12:12 PM
Because somehow, yet again, Zimmer has touched my heart-strings with his music. Parts of the ASM2 score (certain melodies, chord progressions, and orchestrations) are pricelessly beautiful.

Totally agree with you on this one! ;)


A fair few:

The film version of the opening cue

Is that the track "There He Is", only slower in the movie version? I don't understand why they changed the tempo on the official released version.. I like the slower version - it improves the tone of the movie alot better while the CD version just rushes through it and kills the mood.. :/

thepersona
01-30-2016, 10:13 PM
Totally agree with you on this one! ;)

I believe they had several versions of there he is. There was one version in the Times Square promo and then you had the album version which is used at the very end of the end credits its the suite mixed with Cold War and the electro track. So "there he is" is a separate track in its own and it was used at the very end of the credits however I felt that that made the soundtrack for me. I just wish we could get the other versions maybe they're in the sessions who knows the film version of the opening cue if only that was in the album the original Spiderman soundtrack with James Horner had the main titles I don't know why this one chose to leave out

Is that the track "There He Is", only slower in the movie version? I don't understand why they changed the tempo on the official released version.. I like the slower version - it improves the tone of the movie alot better while the CD version just rushes through it and kills the mood.. :/

JARROTT
03-31-2016, 08:34 PM
Hans Zimmer clearly excelled on this one. Too bad there won't be another Spider-man scored by Hans Zimmer

thepersona
03-31-2016, 11:38 PM
Hans Zimmer clearly excelled on this one. Too bad there won't be another Spider-man scored by Hans Zimmer

Yeah I thought so as well, on my personal opinion i thought his score for this movie out did anything he did for the dark knight trilogy, simply because he was doing new and different things. 2 years later and now since he's retired from superhero movies, I'm hoping this score will see the light of day, So everyone can appreciate one of his last scores behind Dawn of justice.

JARROTT
03-31-2016, 11:42 PM
Yes, right !

ScoreDude1985
04-01-2016, 02:31 AM
BvS: DOJ score was dark, and epic! I liked how he brought back the themes from the first film "MOS". Is he scoring anymore?

thepersona
04-02-2016, 03:00 AM
BvS: DOJ score was dark, and epic! I liked how he brought back the themes from the first film "MOS". Is he scoring anymore?

Yeah, and the amazing spider man 2 was a nice mix of electronic music with actual orchestra, it was very playful which I loved. But unfortunately no one has the sessions even 2 years later, its just a shame that no one can appreciate the score beyond how its heard in the film, I feel whenever applicable to those sacred individuals in the trading circles that even the complete or sessions of dawn of justice might even get shared before TASM2 ever sees the light of day., just a wild and ambitious guess.

WrappedInBlack
04-02-2016, 05:24 AM
BvS: DOJ score was dark, and epic! I liked how he brought back the themes from the first film "MOS". Is he scoring anymore?

I hope whoever they replace him with continues to use his themes

pottyaboutpotter1
04-02-2016, 09:25 AM
I hope whoever they replace him with continues to use his themes

It's probably going to be Junkie XL who replaces him. I wouldn't be surprised if that was partly the reason Zimmer brought Holkenberg on board for BvS so he could groom Holkenberg to be his replacement for future DC films.

abryus1337
04-02-2016, 10:52 AM
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pottyaboutpotter1
04-02-2016, 12:41 PM
I'm just interested to see who's gonna score Wonder Woman and if they'll use Zimmer's theme

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That's what I think as well. Tom will probably stick to the Justice League. On the other hand, talking about future DC films, we have Steven Price, who recently joined the gang. I'm pretty sure, Suicide Squad will not be his one and only score for the DC universe (and I hope it won't sound like Gravity, because everything Steven does, has a little Gravity pattern in it). Perhaps he'll do Affleck's Batman as well? What is more, knowing the fact that Affleck has already done two movies with Harry Gregson-Williams' music, why not him? I doubt it, though. I just cannot imagine that sound... But we never know! So, we kind of have multiple choices here. I wouldn't want to see the whole DC universe given to Tom Holkenborg, because he tends to repeat himself more than one could think. While listening through the BvS, especially action stuff, I kept hearing a mix of Run All Night (!) & Fury Road.

Back to Marvel: if, by any chance, they gave the new Spider-Man to Tom, that would be a disaster, in my opinion... Steve Jabs v Henry Jackman would be my top choices.

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That's what we all want. And yet, it happens rarely, if the composer is replaced. Motifs? Sometimes. But themes? Unfortunately.

I'm hoping James Newton Howard will be scoring Spider-Man. Failing that, Alexandre Desplat would be a satisfactory choice or maybe Craig Armstrong (his Incredible HUlk score is amazing and he deserves another go at a superhero film).

abryus1337
04-02-2016, 01:27 PM
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thepersona
04-02-2016, 05:41 PM
I hope alexandre desplat scores spider-man, that truly would be a spectacular, or even david arnold and micheal price, they did some amazing stuff with sherlock, But If those names are long shots, i'd love to hear what harry-gregson williams, or trevor rubin can produce for a character like spider-man, I loved their work on enemy of the state. What do you guys think? who would you like to see a new auditory take on spider-man

Jokerslb
05-18-2016, 10:29 PM
I know it's a dumb question, but how did you know the cues names, and don't have it??
Anyway good post.
thanks

ggctuk2005
05-18-2016, 10:53 PM
I know it's a dumb question, but how did you know the cues names, and don't have it??
Anyway good post.
thanks

The cue names were on the ASCAP database. The full score was among the many things stolen by the people who hacked into Sony in 2014, though they only ever released a file list.

James P.Sullivan
05-23-2016, 11:34 AM
:this:

Also, cue lists leak all the time, but not necessarily the scores themselves. Hence why we have the cue list for Pixar's Cars by Randy Newman but the sessions still haven't leaked, much to my frustration.

Jokerslb
06-02-2016, 03:54 PM
The cue names were on the ASCAP database. The full score was among the many things stolen by the people who hacked into Sony in 2014, though they only ever released a file list.

Well, if they already hacked Sony, at least they could share, not keeping for themselves ;) :doc:

PonyoBellanote
06-02-2016, 04:11 PM
What was leaked wasn't the Complete Score but some parts of the score used in promotional media, I believe.

Killgrave
06-02-2016, 04:27 PM
Well, if they already hacked Sony, at least they could share, not keeping for themselves ;) :doc:

Never underestimate the power of a private gloat.

(Nener, nener, I have something you don't have.)

TheSkeletonMan939
06-02-2016, 04:49 PM
Well, if they already hacked Sony, at least they could share, not keeping for themselves

Hey, if you want to email North Korea, be my guest.

Killgrave
06-02-2016, 05:03 PM
Hey, if you want to email North Korea, be my guest.

I understand Gitmo is lovely this time of year.

P.S. And orange is the new black, after all.

Jokerslb
06-03-2016, 05:21 PM
Never underestimate the power of a private gloat.

(Nener, nener, I have something you don't have.)

What? So you have the score? It's that, what you have that I don't?

thepersona
06-03-2016, 08:33 PM
Honestly its good to see this thread active again, I for one enjoyed the amazing spider man 2. But for a movie which was a commercial flop I don't seem to understand how it can have such high value, I know spider man 3 was also a commercial flop, depending on who's opinion that is and that score was out sooner, so I'm confused how this score is still held at high value despite other more better scores probably being out there, I figured if it was a flop they wouldn't care if its shared, but i'm assuming the value this has is just because its a spider-man score, correct me if I'm wrong lol, :) Anywho lets get this discussion rolling :)

Ubiraci
08-07-2016, 04:15 PM
I would LOVE James Newton Howard to score Spider-Man. But I strongly doubt anything like that could happen... That is why I excluded him from the ''who would do that'' list. But yeah, that's a good choice. Desplat would be something extraordinary, unexpected, interesting, different. That is what I think. I haven't yet listened to Armstrong's Hulk, but I usually like what he delivers. And yes, I agree - he deserves another go. :)

JNH doing Spider-Man would be SO awesome, but my preferred composer for this new Homecoming movie would be David Arnold. I mean, this guy is insanely talented, specially doing action blockbuster films, but he hasn't done one since, what, Narnia 3, on 2010? With this whole lot of super-hero movies coming on the next years, he could very well do at least one - my personal picks being Homecoming and the upcoming Flash movie.

ggctuk2005
08-07-2016, 05:03 PM
Talk is that it is to be Michael Giacchino doing the new Spider-Man movie. I wouldn't mind that at all, but I'd have loved either Danny Elfman or Christopher Young to have another swing of the baton.

James P.Sullivan
08-07-2016, 06:26 PM
Talk is that it is to be Michael Giacchino doing the new Spider-Man movie.

Isn't Giacchino doing Strange? :eye:

If he ever scores a crossover maybe he can bring the so-far lacking musical continuity the MCU movies are screaming for.

Speaking of Spidey - I really liked Jackman's theme from Civil War. "A New Recruit" is one of the best tracks on the OST. So part of me is really wanting him to score it. I know Homecoming will probably be a somewhat lighter-hearted movie compared with Civil War, but Jackman's no stranger to that genre.

I guess whoever does score it will just create yet another musical theme for the web slinger on the big screen. How many have we had so far, four? Five?

HunterTech
08-07-2016, 06:38 PM
Wait, Spider-Man had a theme in Civil War? I couldn't tell, because nothing really stood out. (Besides, his themes should only count in the solo films. Not the big events, where there's always different composers).

I hope to god whoever does the score gives me a theme to work with. All efforts previous were something I could hum.

Ubiraci
08-07-2016, 07:27 PM
Jackman's Spider-Man theme on Civil War soundtrack:

https://youtu.be/mXvg0UvI480?list=PLhqqvo3y1qZ1srt0PRvAf_OE-rgsMT6qe&t=86

And its use as he battles Falcon and the Winter Soldier:

https://youtu.be/BGD_THHYTys?list=PLhqqvo3y1qZ1srt0PRvAf_OE-rgsMT6qe&t=152

It's a small theme, maybe a little elusive (I only discovered he did a Spider-Man theme by the second time I watched the movie).

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Giacchino is already doing Dr. Strange, and he did the new Marvel logo. Now, with these rumors of him doing Spider-Man: Homecoming, does that indicate a new "friendship" between him and Marvel? Like the one they were trying to build with Brian Tyler until the whole mess on the Age of Ultron scoring process? Gee, I hope so. I mean, Giacchino is one of the best right now, but he hasn't done a super-hero movie since The Incredibles.

Mrcool210
08-26-2016, 06:21 AM
Isn't Giacchino doing Strange? :eye:

If he ever scores a crossover maybe he can bring the so-far lacking musical continuity the MCU movies are screaming for.

Speaking of Spidey - I really liked Jackman's theme from Civil War. "A New Recruit" is one of the best tracks on the OST. So part of me is really wanting him to score it. I know Homecoming will probably be a somewhat lighter-hearted movie compared with Civil War, but Jackman's no stranger to that genre.

I guess whoever does score it will just create yet another musical theme for the web slinger on the big screen. How many have we had so far, four? Five?

I agree with that completely, I remember hearing Jackmans score to Kick Ass and thinking that he would be perfect for Spider-Man. I'm hoping he sticks around for Homecoming. I honestly don't know who else they could get. Speaking of Strange I was sad to hear that Christopher Young wasn't scoring that film, I remeber them saying he would when derrickson was first hired.

thepersona
10-01-2016, 10:55 AM
I was wondering if theres been any updated about this score, Has it been traded at all. It's been almost 3 years now since the films release and since the movie was hated by everyone I figured this score would have made the rounds by now as it is not so valuable due to reception, Any information would be dandy

TheSkeletonMan939
10-01-2016, 03:26 PM
No

ggctuk2005
10-01-2016, 04:01 PM
You'll be lucky for sure. Apparently the Sony Hackers grabbed it while they were rooting through the Sony servers, but aside from that it's never surfaced anywhere.

pottyaboutpotter1
10-01-2016, 04:50 PM
I was wondering if theres been any updated about this score, Has it been traded at all. It's been almost 3 years now since the films release and since the movie was hated by everyone I figured this score would have made the rounds by now as it is not so valuable due to reception, Any information would be dandy

It's a Zimmer score. It's valuable no matter what people think of the movie. And BTW, it's not hated by everyone.

Killgrave
10-01-2016, 06:17 PM
I was wondering if theres been any updated about this score, Has it been traded at all. It's been almost 3 years now since the films release and since the movie was hated by everyone I figured this score would have made the rounds by now as it is not so valuable due to reception, Any information would be dandy

Your reasoning is faulty. If the movie is so hated why would that hate then motivate people to circulate the score? If anything, it should demotivate people who tend to distance themselves from things they dislike. Plus a score's value isn't necessarily tied to the film's popularity. Priest was a terrible movie but listener's loved Young's score. It took a while but we finally got the sessions to that one.

The "complete" score to ASM2 will get here when it gets here. No sooner, no later.

thepersona
10-01-2016, 09:20 PM
Fair enough i appreciate the responses lol, and some of the sarcasm by ggctuk2005 lol, I was just curious, and fair enough for having a faulty reason, tho I am one of the few wo liked all the spider man movies that came out especially TASM2. :)

ScoreDude1985
10-14-2016, 06:35 AM
The anticipation is killing us all XD LOL

thepersona
10-15-2016, 04:47 AM
The anticipation is killing us all XD LOL

Tell me about it, I've even put my hat out there offering to pay any reasonable amount of cash for it but no one either has it, or they do and are not interested which is totally fine. :) lol hopefully this can come out before the end of this year.

2017 is the year of spider-man, we have the homecoming movie, a new animated solo series, and spider-man ps4 its gonna be fucking epic, are you excited?

ManRay
10-15-2016, 09:30 AM
2017 is the year of spider-man, we have the homecoming movie, a new animated solo series, and spider-man ps4 its gonna be fucking epic, are you excited?

No.

Killgrave
10-15-2016, 02:53 PM
No.

C'mon ManRay. Not even a little? It'll be the year of John Wick 2.

ggctuk2005
10-15-2016, 07:22 PM
John Wick 2 has nothing to do with Spider-Man, and I think that's what ManRay's getting at here: this is the third onscreen version of the character - in less than a decade. I must say, as a life-long Spider-Man fan, I too find it rather perlexing, and not exactly exciting (don't get me wrong, I think Tom Holland is perfectly cast but it speaks volumes when Hollywood has to reboot a franchise twice in ten years)

DAKoftheOTA
10-16-2016, 05:38 AM
How about 3 onscreen versions of The Incredible Hulk? None of whom were very well cast IMO.

SpiderPool
11-20-2016, 02:02 AM
I hope that the Comic Con trailer music gets leaked somehow. This was literally the updated version of James Horner's theme!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50UTRfx2keo

SpiderPool
11-30-2016, 10:37 PM
https://soundcloud.com/andrewkawczynski/the-amazing-spider-man-2-desperation?in=andrewkawczynski/sets/the-amazing-spider-man-2

thepersona
12-25-2016, 10:49 PM
almost 3 years later and still nothing new about this score. :(

Killgrave
12-25-2016, 11:00 PM
almost 3 years later and still nothing new about this score. :(

It'll show up eventually. Might take years.

TheSkeletonMan939
12-26-2016, 04:17 AM
almost 3 years later and still nothing new about this score. :(

Because no one has it.

ggctuk2005
12-26-2016, 08:37 AM
Them hackers have it. Maybe you can ask them :p

TheSkeletonMan939
12-26-2016, 03:45 PM
It's either that, or stealing Kim Jong Un's iPod.

syfo
12-29-2016, 11:55 AM
can I get the link ? thank you so much!

TheSkeletonMan939
12-29-2016, 04:23 PM
:tommydissapproves:

Killgrave
12-29-2016, 05:36 PM
can I get the link ? thank you so much!

Please read this thread carefully. Then think about the request you just wrote.

ggctuk2005
12-29-2016, 11:43 PM
can I get the link ? thank you so much!


thepersona
12-30-2016, 12:58 AM


THE INFAMOUS SPIRIT OF THE MILLENNIUM RING!!!!

liamdude5
01-01-2017, 05:04 AM
Getting the topic back to this score, I actually prefer this to James Horner's work on the original. I found the action Cues exciting and the emotional Cues heartfelt.

Killgrave
01-02-2017, 06:13 PM
Garfield talks about the Sony corporate mindset that derailed the reboot of Spider-Man. Will come as a surprise to no one but rather a confirmation Sony had no idea what they were doing.

Notice in the trailers for the upcoming Spider-Man it's branded Marvel, no mention of Sony until the end of trailer in the lower right hand corner. Blink and you'll miss it. Guess after screwing up the Spidey and Ghostbusters reboots, the Sony name is a wee bit toxic in the fan community.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/andrew-garfield-interviewed-silence-hacksaw-ridge-959559

TheSkeletonMan939
01-03-2017, 11:26 PM
Guess after screwing up the Spidey and Ghostbusters reboots, the Sony name is a wee bit toxic in the fan community.

I think even Sony is aware of this now. When's the last time they had a solid blockbuster hit?

PonyoBellanote
01-03-2017, 11:48 PM
Sony pretty much wants to kill themselves in the movie business, because they keep making fuck up after fuck up, even before it's in production, yet they keep doing them.

It must be willing.

TheSkeletonMan939
01-04-2017, 12:07 AM
I don't know guys, I think they might have a big hit on their hands with...



:laugh: Nah, they're screwed.

ggctuk2005
01-04-2017, 12:53 AM
I mean, seriously... who thought that was a good idea?

pottyaboutpotter1
01-04-2017, 01:06 AM
This is Sony. It's corporate movie making at it's worst. They literally think "X is popular. Movie of X will be very popular". They are the worst studio running right now. They're fast on track to an implosion, IE multiple flops and the studio struggling to recover leading to assets being sold off to keep the studio afloat. They only have Spider-Man as a hit. According to rumours, negotiations to keep the distribution rights to James Bond didn't work out which lead to the Bond distribution rights being shopped around at other studios (apparently we'll learn who bought the rights when the next film is announced but reports suggest it's Warner Bros). So don't be surprised if various franchises Sony own change hands soon if they suffer more flops.[COLOR="Silver"]

Killgrave
01-04-2017, 05:25 AM
Sony had Spider-Man until they focus grouped it to death. Sony turned Peter from a genius on par with Tony Stark to a putz who had to go to Youtube to figure out how to stop Electro.

If Warner gets Bond, I'd bet Chris Nolan gets the job to direct Bond's premiere outing. Nolan is a fan.

TheSkeletonMan939
01-04-2017, 05:34 AM
Since when is Parker a genius? Does anyone besides me read the original comics? Peter is good at logic and puzzling out sciency stuff but never has he been a genius. In fact, he's spent most of his life making crappy decisions and smashing his relationships to pieces multiple times. Honestly, Peter turning to the Internet for help in these films shows both resourcefulness and the fact that he's more or less an everyday joe outside of his powers. It's one of the things I think Sony got right.

Tony Stark builds robot husks in the desert for him to ride in; Peter has never been anywhere near that level.

Apparently in today's comics he owns a corporation and rakes in the dough.... eh.

Killgrave
01-04-2017, 06:26 AM
Parker not a genius? Let's review.

First he develops an adhesive that successfully mimics the tensile strength of spider webbing. A fluid that can be compressed by a factor of several hundred into small containers that fit on his wrist. (BTW, there's an entire branch of science known as fluid mechanics.) Not only is the adhesive strong as spider webbing but it dissolves after an hour.

I've always thought Parker should have patented that invention. Would have made him a fortune. The super glue before super glue.

Second, there's the web shooters. He designs a delivery system that can launch the webbing over several hundred feet and in a variety of patterns: narrow, wide, even web balls. Invents it in his bedroom.

Third, he designs a costume that doesn't impede his ability to cling to walls. Even when he's wearing his Spidey boots. Plus mirrored eyepieces and remember Parker did this back in the early 60s when there was no such thing as mylar coatings. (NASA invented it for the Moon program.)

All this as a high school student. No Stark fortune or lab to fall back on.

You couldn't do it, I couldn't do it, but Parker did. So, yeah, that makes him a genius.

TheSkeletonMan939
01-04-2017, 04:42 PM
I've always though Parker should have patented that invention. Would have made him a fortune. The super glue before super glue.

This was actually going to be a plot point in The Spectacular Spider-Man TV show (highly recommended) before it was cancelled. I don't know if the comics ever did something like this, but the reason Parker never patented them was because all that equipment was derived from pre-existing OsCorp technology.

I much prefer the idea the Raimi films had, where the webbing comes from inside him. It makes more sense. Building his web-shooters is like the only time that Peter is shown to be any kind of engineer; all his other skills rest in chemistry, biology, etc.

Killgrave
01-04-2017, 05:29 PM
I much prefer the idea the Raimi films had, where the webbing comes from inside him. It makes more sense. Building his web-shooters is like the only time that Peter is shown to be any kind of engineer; all his other skills rest in chemistry, biology, etc.

If you carry that idea to its logical conclusion, Peter would spin webs out of his abdomen or his ass. A spider's spinneret is located at the rear of its abdomen, not in its appendages.

I like science nerd Parker. Seeing intelligence portrayed on screen, especially in science, is, IMO, always a good thing.

ManRay
01-04-2017, 06:46 PM
Just give me a decent fucking Venom Movie.

Topher Grace as Eddie Brock ? Don't make me fucking laugh.

Throw Carnage in there, and for once, only once, please
actually rub those 2 Braincells that those Studios have together.

Rate it R, boom, 1 Billion pulled in at the Box Office guaranteed.

Killgrave
01-04-2017, 07:04 PM
Just give me a decent fucking Venom Movie.

You'd need a unique take on the character a la Deadpool. Look at the Hulk or Punisher films. On paper, each one looks like a home run. On film, Hulk smashing or Punisher ix-naying a bunch of bad guys gets old fast. Your character needs depth.

Venom could very easily turn into "Venom smash!" in the typical Hollywood hands. You'd need a very good motion capture actor, screenwriters with the right touch and a director who understands the material.

ManRay
01-04-2017, 07:32 PM
They should go with the Part of "The Venom Saga" from 1994 Spiderman TaS :

The symbiote returns to Earth and travels to Ravencroft to reunite with Eddie Brock,
who then escapes as Venom. He is ordered by Dormammu, to whom the symbiote owes its earthly return,
to steal a machine from Stark Enterprises capable of releasing Dormammu from his own far-off dimension.
When Venom battles Spider-Man and War Machine, he is easily defeated by the two heroes.
Baron Mordo and Dormammu help Eddie Brock's cell-mate Cletus Kassidy bond with a symbiote,
who later dubs himself Carnage. Carnage then assists Venom in his task to retrieve the technology
from Stark Enterprises, though when Carnage attempts to destroy Spider-Man, Venom attacks him,
telling him that the wall-crawler is Venom's and Venom's only.

When Eddie refuses to continue to work for Dormammu, Carnage is considered sufficient to collect life-force
which is essential for Dormammu to enter Earth. Carnage kidnaps Dr. Ashley Kafka, whom Eddie has fallen in love with.
Eddie then reluctantly teams with Iron Man and Spider-Man to save her.
They are forced to send Carnage as well as Dormammu into the other dimension, as it appears he has formed
a link between himself and Carnage. Carnage, unwilling to leave Earth alone, attempts to drag Ashley with him,
though Venom sacrifices himself for the woman he loves.

This has everything an (Anti)Superhero Movie needs, uneasy Teamups, a Love Story that ends in heroic Sacrifice,
thus overcoming one's Nature, A Catastrophe of potentially worldending Proportions, Iron Man, War Machine,
Venom, Carnage, Spiderman, it's all there.



You'd need a very good motion capture actor, screenwriters with the right touch and a director who understands the material.

And why does this seem to be almost impossible for Hollywood to realize ?

Jesus, their Heads seem to be perpetually stuck up their Asses for all Eternity.

Killgrave
01-04-2017, 08:04 PM
They should go with the Part of "The Venom Saga" from 1994 Spiderman TaS

Could work but bringing Carnage into the mix might be symbiote villain overload. Too similar in appearance and abilities. I'd leave Carnage for a sequel because you'd need both Spidey and Venom to bring him down.


And why does this seem to be almost impossible for Hollywood to realize ?

Jesus, their Heads seem to be perpetually stuck up their Asses for all Eternity.

Deadpool took ten plus years to make. If it hadn't been for the "leaked" footage it might never have been realized. Hollywood is notoriously risk adverse.

("What, a Fred Kruger look-alike as the hero? What, he breaks the fourth wall and makes fun of superheroes? What, he kills people, talks filth and it's Rated R? Get out of my office!")

Now, Hollywood is all, "OOH, Rated R superheroes? Gimme, gimme, gimme."

ManRay
01-04-2017, 08:17 PM
Could work but bringing Carnage into the mix might be symbiote villain overload. Too similar in appearance and abilities. I'd leave Carnage for a sequel because you'd need both Spidey and Venom to bring him down.

They are significantly different, but i guess you're right,
People are Idiots. They need a complete Rubbish Movie,
so they won't get shellshocked by the Followup Heap of Thrash.

*cough*BvS*cough*JusticeLeague*cough*




Deadpool took ten plus years to make. If it hadn't been for the "leaked" footage it might never have been realized. Hollywood is notoriously risk adverse.

("What, a Fred Kruger look-alike as the hero? What, he breaks the fourth wall and makes fun of superheroes? What, he kills people, talks filth and it's Rated R? Get out of my office!")

Now, Hollywood is all, "OOH, Rated R superheroes? Gimme, gimme, gimme."

Oh, did i never mention it? I hated Deadpool.

Killgrave
01-04-2017, 08:36 PM
They are significantly different, but i guess you're right,
People are Idiots. Oh, did i never mention it? I hated Deadpool.

Yeah, they are different but we're talking about America whose students are 27th in math and 20th in science and most people's ability to apply critical thinking is utter rubbish. (45% of Americans and more than 50% of millennials think astrology is a science.)

Plus, thanks to modern tech people don't pay fucking attention. To anything. (Not the tech's fault, it's the user's.)

As for Deadpool, I like that it got made and made a ton at the box office. Perhaps its success paves the way for other R superhero flicks. I saw it once and once is enough.

pottyaboutpotter1
01-04-2017, 09:35 PM
Yeah, they are different but we're talking about America whose students are 27th in math and 20th in science and most people's ability to apply critical thinking is utter rubbish. (45% of Americans and more than 50% of millennials think astrology is a science.)

Plus, thanks to modern tech people don't pay fucking attention. To anything. (Not the tech's fault, it's the user's.)

As for Deadpool, I like that it got made and made a ton at the box office. Perhaps its success paves the way for other R superhero flicks. I saw it once and once is enough.

Logan wil be R rated and that's been commented as a direct result of Deadpool doing so well. So it's had some effect.

thepersona
01-05-2017, 11:24 AM
Anyone know of or hear about any of the cues used in these videos, they are legit and mixed the 2nd link seems to have an insert of the cue in oscorp where peter distracts the gaurds, And the first link seems to be an alternate version of flying montage. I was wondering if anyone knew of these tracks or even had them.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qIFBkBjobE

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9irHhGgy6k

ggctuk2005
01-05-2017, 11:45 AM
Hmm... well, that's new. Maybe the sessions are out there after all.

ScoreDude1985
01-23-2017, 06:58 AM
I'm sure they'll leak eventually. They always do.

PonyoBellanote
01-23-2017, 01:09 PM
Hey Guys! When I Try To Open An Inbox, I See A Weird Page With a Microsoft Sender 2013. Does That Mean That The Amazing SpiderMan 2 Score Is Gonna Leak?! Is This A Holy Sign! :D

pottyaboutpotter1
01-23-2017, 02:23 PM
I'm sure they'll leak eventually. They always do.

They'll most likely leak when, like Man Of Steel, all the "traders" have it or enough people have it so it has no more value for private trade. Assuming it's even out there that is.

GOLDSMITHNUT
02-07-2017, 09:20 AM
They'll most likely leak when, like Man Of Steel, all the "traders" have it or enough people have it so it has no more value for private trade. Assuming it's even out there that is.

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/THE-AMAZING-SPIDERMAN-II-2CD-COMPLETE-SCORE-LIMITED-EDITION-HANS-ZIMMER-/112292740361?hash=item1a252b3d09

This?

TheSkeletonMan939
02-07-2017, 01:25 PM
Definitely fake

PonyoBellanote
02-07-2017, 01:51 PM
What is it with you people being so damn gullible?

GOLDSMITHNUT
02-07-2017, 10:50 PM
What is it with you people being so damn gullible?


Definitely fake


After a quick investigation I found out this a very limited release lol, it was a thing..

TheSkeletonMan939
02-07-2017, 10:53 PM
There was a 2CD release of the score, but it wasn't the full thing.
The eBay listing holds the tracklist for the FIRST film, by James Horner, so... :erm:

GOLDSMITHNUT
02-07-2017, 10:54 PM
There was a 2CD release of the score, but it wasn't the full thing.
The eBay listing holds the tracklist for the FIRST film, by James Horner, so... :erm:

Point taken

pottyaboutpotter1
02-08-2017, 01:09 AM
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/THE-AMAZING-SPIDERMAN-II-2CD-COMPLETE-SCORE-LIMITED-EDITION-HANS-ZIMMER-/112292740361?hash=item1a252b3d09

This?

If I'm right, this is the 2-Disc deluxe edition of the score. Disc 1 is the score. Disc 2 is all the songs written for the film and includes 4 bonus score tracks (The Electro Suite, The Harry Suite, Cold War, No Place Like Home). This is the version of the score I own. It was limited because Sony didn't plan on manufacturing many more (although there's still a lot out there which either shows they did make more or it just didn't sell well).

The fact the track listing is the James Horner score suggests to me this is fake. Or that you'll receive the 2 Disc Deluxe edition instead of the complete score.

pottyaboutpotter1
02-08-2017, 01:10 AM
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/THE-AMAZING-SPIDERMAN-II-2CD-COMPLETE-SCORE-LIMITED-EDITION-HANS-ZIMMER-/112292740361?hash=item1a252b3d09

This?

If I'm right, this is the 2-Disc deluxe edition of the score. Disc 1 is the score. Disc 2 is all the songs written for the film and includes 4 bonus score tracks (The Electro Suite, The Harry Suite, Cold War, No Place Like Home). This is the version of the score I own. It was limited because Sony didn't plan on manufacturing many more (although there's still a lot out there which either shows they did make more or it just didn't sell well).

The fact the track listing is the James Horner score suggests to me this is fake. Or that you'll receive the 2 Disc Deluxe edition instead of the complete score.

(MAT)themes
02-20-2017, 09:44 AM
Still nothing about a leaked complete version?

ggctuk2005
02-20-2017, 10:42 AM
Clearly not, as otherwise there would have been a post about it.

TheSkeletonMan939
02-20-2017, 02:18 PM
This is probably the worst thread on this entire website.

PonyoBellanote
02-20-2017, 02:30 PM
I have the recording sessions in 16/44 and 24/48, COMPLETE FLAC, send me a PM if you wanna

TheSkeletonMan939
02-20-2017, 03:50 PM
Post any PMs you get here :laugh:

PonyoBellanote
02-20-2017, 04:21 PM
Damn it, you just ruined my social experiment. Now they'll know.

TheSkeletonMan939
02-20-2017, 04:57 PM
Whoops!

Killgrave
02-20-2017, 05:27 PM
Damn it, you just ruined my social experiment. Now they'll know.

We already knew.

PonyoBellanote
02-20-2017, 05:30 PM
We already knew.

Yes, do you know how dumb the hoarders can be, no matter how obvious it is?

oriontwo
02-20-2017, 05:53 PM
thanks in advance

TheSkeletonMan939
02-20-2017, 06:16 PM

thepersona
02-20-2017, 07:29 PM
Well ideally this thread did start as a discussion thread which I believed died down about 2 years ago lol, but the social experiment is an interesting yet humorus approach. As for the hoarders I guess, well I wouldnt consider myself one because everything I have i've paid for. but soon this will pop up its been 3 years so its only a matter of time. :)

CLONEMASTER 6.53
02-20-2017, 08:08 PM
thanks in advance

You're welcome.

thepersona
04-17-2017, 03:30 PM
Hey I was just listening to some unreleased bluray rips of the amazing spider man 2 and Ive noticed a lot of the tracks used have been cut and pasted in different segments of the film. It does not flow like say the score for the first one where each scene has a full corresponding cue in said order.

I found that interesting as it makes me wonder what some of the songs could actually sound like in their entirety. I like the cue where peter and harry are at oscorp asking for spiders blood.