I was wondering whats better KEY TO SUCESS or IRON DUKE and how do you actually get iron duke? Also has anyone here defeated Trema?

Iron Duke is better...here is what Iron Duke does:
HP +100%, MP +100%,Strength +100%, Magic +100%, Magic +100, Defense +100, Magic Defense +100, Agility +10, Accuracy +100, Evasion +100, Luck +50

And what Key To Success does:
HP +100%, MP +100%, Luck +100, Double All

You get Iron Duke by defeating Trema at Via Infinito; i think.
Yes i have defeated Trema and he is as hard as (i won't say that word...)

Iron Duke is better, but you'd probably do better to have a Key to Success equipped throughout most of a New Game Plus so that you can gain levels faster, assuming you don't just use Lady Luck the whole way, or you actually bother using the Covenant of Growth Garment Grid. Of course, there's no reason why can't use both.

I defeated Trema, and I got the Iron Duke. :)

But I can't remember the Key of Success...where do I get it? :confused:

There'll be a Key to Success waiting for you in the chest in Tobli's office in Guadosalam in Chapter 5 if you get Episode Complete for Moonflow, but don't stop the Ronso's attack in Chapter 3. (Episode Concluded for both Macalania Woods and Guadosalam)

Oh ok, it this one. I never got it so far, so I can't really say if this is good or bad. :(

so how do you actually get the iron duke?

Beat Trema.


It's sort a catch-22, really. Iron Duke is a great accessory to use when facing Trema, but to get it, you have beat him. But trust me, it really rocks in New Game Plus.

okay then thanx a lot but i cant start another new game plus im on my third one already!

Well, why not? If you're only on your third one, you've missed so much. Like at least 1 of Rin's mystery suspects for example, possibly more.

speaking of rins suspects how do yuou actually get rin i have a walkthrough and i followed everything but i ended up getting rikku i also got the prophet at 1 stage too.