Toastie!
10-14-2004, 09:58 AM
I have found so possibly little known trivia on Final Fantasy VII that I thought was quite interesting. And here it is:


The first game in the Final Fantasy series to suggest the origin of monsters (Shinra experiments with mako energy on live test subjects). Previous games omitted this fact, and the existence of monster was never questioned by the characters. Thus far, only three games in the Final Fantasy mainstream (the numbered games) have provided a reason for the existence of monsters: Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, and Final Fantasy X.


Producer Hironobu Sakaguchi allowed Aeris to die as an expression of grief after his mother died during the production of Final Fantasy III (1990) (VG).


The villain's name Sephiroth means 'Dark Numbers' in Japanese.


The name of the evil Shin-Ra corporation, roughly translated, means 'God-Silk'.


Two million copies were sold within the first three days of release.


Rumors persisted for years following the game's release that the character Aeris could be resurrected. Various insanely time-consuming methods were proposed, and it was later claimed that it was only possible in the Japanese version, and was cut from the US version due to time contraints. These were all finally put to rest when Tetsuya Nomura was interviewed about the making of the game by UK videogames publication "Edge". He stated that "[T]he world was expecting us to bring her back to life, as this is the classic convention. But we did not. We had decided this from the beginning." Aeris's death was intended, in part, to be a response to the dramatic clich� of the "meaningful death", which Nomura considered unrealistic.


There you go. Stuff noone really cares about but I posted it anyway

LifeComesCheap
10-14-2004, 10:41 PM
Ya can't say i didn't learn something ^^;

Slash
10-14-2004, 11:00 PM
thats cool i didnt no that cheers!

Dotman12
10-18-2004, 09:20 PM
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Toastie!
10-19-2004, 09:25 AM
More Info:

A couple names were changed for the North American release prior to its release. Among them, Aeris was originally Aerith in Japan, Bugenhagen was originally Buugen Hagen, and Mako was originally called Makou.

As many people may know that FFVII was an incomplete game. There where many things cut out of the final product. There are certain programs that allow you to view game files such as background images and text, and by doing so you can see some that weren't used. if you where to search through all the text you can find text for receiving item that are not in the game such as an Elixir in the pipe of the sick man in Midgar, an item called "Letter to Wife in Kalm", "Letter to Daughter in Kalm", "Homemade Potion!" that you where supposed to get from Clouds mother, and maybe the most interesting of all is the item "High Blow ST" which sounds a lot like a weapon witch is supposed to be found in the basement of Shinra mansion but is nowhere to be found in the game.

The other primary difference between the PSX and PC versions of the game is that the PC version has a much longer and more impressive version of Sephiroth's "Supernova" summoning at the end. (unfortunately, the AI tends to use it a LOT, and this causes the final battle to drag on indefinately on the PC version, since Sephiroth uses it simply as a delaying tactic to buy himself some time to heal\charge\whatever)

In the beginning of the game, right after Cloud leaves the building on fire, there's a big outdoor of a dark-haired girl and the writings "OVELESS - Y LOODY ALENTINE". This is a reference to British dreampop band My Bloody Valentine, which released its most famous album "Loveless" back in 1991. The dark-haired girl from the poster looks quite like band member Belinda Butcher. (later in the game, the name "Loveless" pops up once again, referred to as a play)

The two characters Biggs and Wedges, sometimes rendered "Vicks and Wedge" by Translators, have appeared in many Final Fantasy games (FF VI-VIII to be exact). What few people know is that their names are taken from two of the wingmen in Luke Skywalker's Red Squadron from Star Wars.

In all Final Fantasy games except for Final Fantasy 1 the mysterious character Cid has appeared doing small cameo-roles, sidekicks. The Producer of the Final Fantasy games, Hironobu Sakaguchi, once described this mysterious character as "the Yoda of the Final Fantasy series". One interesting fact to note is that almost always Cid is an engineer or mechanic.

Probably the most overlooked easter egg in the game (in a game which is practically overpopulated by secrets and bonuses) is the existance of another secret island apart from the one that houses the Knights of the Round Summon. Reachable only by a golden chocobo, this island is straight south from Cosmo Canyon. What's in there? the Cactuer! that's right, the same guys from Final Fantasy 3.

For the US release of FF7 on the playstation Squaresoft made some improvements over the original, these included the elimination of several bugs and, most importantly, the addition of some cutscenes (game engine-based, not rendered). This caused a big scandal in japan, which was left with an "inferior" version.To correct this, Squaresoft released an "international version" which was released mainly in japan but also in the states and which is simply the american version with a fourth "making of" cd added.

In the Playstation version of this game, there's a live chorus singing during the final battle. In the PC conversion, the music is in midi format so only certain soundcards and drivers can support this. Without the proper soundcard/driver combination, you get no chorus and just the background midi.

Kemtach2999
11-14-2004, 01:22 AM
wow some of that i knew, (ff7 being incomplete and all) but there was alot of new stuff as well...nice info.

I wonder if you could clear up something for me. I heard that in the original japanese release niether the Ruby or Emerald Weapon existed, is this true and if so were they left for the international release?

Monk
11-14-2004, 11:42 AM
I have found so possibly little known trivia on Final Fantasy VII that I thought was quite interesting. And here it is:


The first game in the Final Fantasy series to suggest the origin of monsters (Shinra experiments with mako energy on live test subjects). Previous games omitted this fact, and the existence of monster was never questioned by the characters. Thus far, only three games in the Final Fantasy mainstream (the numbered games) have provided a reason for the existence of monsters: Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, and Final Fantasy X.


Producer Hironobu Sakaguchi allowed Aeris to die as an expression of grief after his mother died during the production of Final Fantasy III (1990) (VG).


The villain's name Sephiroth means 'Dark Numbers' in Japanese.


The name of the evil Shin-Ra corporation, roughly translated, means 'God-Silk'.


Two million copies were sold within the first three days of release.


Rumors persisted for years following the game's release that the character Aeris could be resurrected. Various insanely time-consuming methods were proposed, and it was later claimed that it was only possible in the Japanese version, and was cut from the US version due to time contraints. These were all finally put to rest when Tetsuya Nomura was interviewed about the making of the game by UK videogames publication "Edge". He stated that "[T]he world was expecting us to bring her back to life, as this is the classic convention. But we did not. We had decided this from the beginning." Aeris's death was intended, in part, to be a response to the dramatic clich� of the "meaningful death", which Nomura considered unrealistic.


There you go. Stuff noone really cares about but I posted it anyway

Well, I knew about this all along. This is nothing new for me. By the way, the rumors about Aeris' revival were started by an american who played the Japanese version of VVII. When Bugenhagen comes to the Ancient City, you can see Aeris' image for a brief time at the waterfall. Since this guy didn't know Japanese, he thought this was a resurrestion attempt, and he started the rumors about her resurrection. Now, another guy, who heard about this, decided to see how far would people go with this "Aeris resurrection" thing. The guy started all kinds of rumors about Aeris' revival (all of them were not true, of course), and many people started to believe that she could be revived. Some people even claimed to have revived Aeris (which was a lie because she can't be revived). The guy who created these rumors did it on purpose because he wanted to see peoples' reactions. As time passed, this guy introduced more and more new ways about how to revive Aeris. Many people called him a liar, and said that you can't revive Aeris, but this guy had a lot of friends who backed him up, so he wasn't recognized as a liar. But this was just the begining of the whole story. After this, peolpe started to really believe that Aeris could be revived.And even today, there are people who think she can be revived. This whole thing stared out harmlessly, but developed into a catastrophe. The whole world was going crazy about this. But today we know better. Now you know how the rumors were started. As you said, the methods of revivig Aeris were time-comsuming. This was the goal of that guy who set so many rumors about her revival. The sad thing is, people believed him, and the whole Aeris thing got out of control. Fanatic fans claimed to have revived her, and that's what made these rumors so persistent. Well, there you have it.

By the way, here's another time-comsuming method of reviving Aeris.
First, you have to go to her house, by her bed. You have to have 4 Tissues, and Cloud will use the Tissues. Then go to the Church and have Caith Sith with you. The children in the church will go out and play with Caith Sith. Aeris will appear and tell you about the "Ressurect" spell, a hidden spell contained in the Revive materia. To get this spell, you must gather 800,000 or 1,500,000 AP with your Buster sword, and only the Buster Sword. This false method consumes a lot of time, and there are no results, since Aeris cannot be revived, as we all know.

Here's an interesting site, you shoul read all this stuff. There is also a confession that Aeris cannot be revived and a lot of other stuff. You should definetly read this. http://ff7rumors.tripod.com/aeris.htm

Gast
11-14-2004, 12:55 PM
Yeah, interesting stuff guys. Some stuff I didn't know in there. And the only way to get Aeris back if u want her than much is to use a GameShark. But since her death is vital for the games story to progress, it wouldn't make sense.