GoodMusician
11-25-2013, 06:09 AM
Here's a little project that kinda... appeared on my desk so to speak. After talking to a friend of mine about our favourite films she mentioned one that to this day is one of my guilty pleasures: LEGEND.
As many of you know, LEGEND is a 1985 film directed by Ridley Scott. In that era (and to an extent today) has an issue of doubting his films brilliance and bringing them under a hatchet so to speak. This film is no exception. Late in production, Ridley (for various reasons) decided to take to the editing room and cut down a film that was over two hours into a mere hour and a half to only further take the film and cut it shorter for American Audiences. Part of this decision also meant having the film re-scored.
Jerry Goldsmith worked on the film early in production, producing songs and dances for a few sequences in the film which, due to the rescore, were cut out of the American version.
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The main story is of a Princess who ventures into the woods to see a friend (lover) of hers who lives in the woods in Harmony with the animals and nature. She and the boy have developed a youthful-pure love for each-other and in this love, the Boy decides to break a rule: to show the most pure creatures in existence to his princess. The Unicorns.
Darkness, played to perfection by Tim Curry, wishing to end the reign of "Light" in the world, wishes to have the Unicorns killed so he sends his goblins out to follow Lilly to them as "innocence" is the only lure to the Unicorns.
Lilly is obsessed with Magic, finding, seeing, and touching it and it's this obsession that leads to the slaying of one of the Unicorns which launches Jack and Lilly into a journey to return Light to the world and balance to the Universe.
The score, appropriately, is lush with swelling and romantic strings but influenced with electronic sounds to fill it with a sense of "magic."
The Jerry Goldsmith score has always been some what of a mystery. Very little has survived time and what has survived is confusing and with so many people attempting to leak so much, there is even greater confusion.
Here is what we know:
1) According to inside sources the written score was misplaced and presumed destroyed.
2) According to the sources that produced the SILVA album, the sessions are also misplaced and presumed destroyed.
3) The SILVA album was produced from the same elements as the original LP Album
4) The only existing elements remain on a DAT tape used to back up the music intended for use on the original LP
5) The elements on the DAT tape are often pieces of cues, cut down for the album production.
6) There are TWO official releases and MANY bootlegs.
7) There are no known track names and no information on what/how much Goldsmith wrote/intended
Working from all this information, I've tracked down everything I can find and so far here I've discovered a few things.
First off, lets look at the releases:
1986 UP-ART
Compact Disc: 86002
Time: 46:40
(International soundtrack)
1. My True Loves Eyes
2. The Riddle
3. Sing The Wee
4. The Goblins
5. The Dress Waltz
6. The Ring
7. The Unicorns
8. Bumps and Hollows
9. Forgive Me
10. Re-United
2002 Silva America (rerelease of the 1992 Silva Screen Records America, Inc.)
Compact Disc : SSD 1138
Time: 70:50
THE TRACKS :
1. Main Title*/The Goblins
2. My True Love's Eyes/The Cottage
3. The Unicorns
4. Living River*/Bumps and Hollows/The Freeze
5. The Faeries*/The Riddle
6. Sing the Wee
7. Forgive Me
8. Faerie Dance*
9. The Armour*
10. Oona*/The Jewels*
11. Dress Waltz
12. Darkness Falls*
13. The Ring
14. Reunited
*contains previously unreleased material
What you'll notice is that there is a lot of music that's on both, but the newer release does have a few more tracks.
Here is one of the most common boot's you'll find too:

As you can see, it's 2 discs and has quite a few tracks!
Looks like a lot of score right? Well, I did some detective work and I found that for the most part, the two commercially available albums have the same material but as mentioned, since the score was cut up into parts on the DAT tape, there are some minor mixing differences. Also, with the re-release they chose to present the score more as 'intended' in some moments and in others to cut repetitive parts to make it more listenable.
The bootleg makes it seem like there is a LOT more than there is too. There are some extra tracks that leaked from an unknown source and are transferred at an incorrect speed and are thus presented on the boots in the wrong speed/pitch. Once this has been adjusted, a few things become clear.
1) There is no "Unicorn Alternate" but what is heard is really just a slightly different revision/take of the opening bars to what I call "Jack Surprises Lilly." The rest seems different because of minor assembly changes between the original/SILVA releases
2) The Riddle Alternate is nothing more than the opening bars of "The Riddle" as heard on the original release but omitted on the SILVA release with a repeat of two measures near the end. Once you separate "The Faerie" and "The Riddle" and replace those few seconds, then you have corrected it. Although those repeated measures near the end are a different performance .
3) There ARE two "Faerie Dances:" The first is whats heard on the album, the 2nd is the version as heard in the deleted scene and intended for use in the final film.
4) The two "Hall of Columns" are the same with the 2nd being presented at the wrong speed but with an extra cue which I believe is for when they place the mirrors throughout Darkness' lair.
5) There is only ONE "Dress Waltz." One version presented is at the wrong speed but also has the true ending omitted form the two releases (probably for listen-ability sake) You can hear on both releases the music begin to go to this cut section but it fades out before the synth/orchestral glissando
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Here is a break down of all the music as used in the film:
1) Main Title - This cue is used several times within the various edits of the score, tracked to at least two other scenes:
a] Opening - Correct Placement (with same editing)
b] When Jack, Gump, and the others are traveling to find the unicorns
c] When Oona is following Lilly through the forest.
Of these, there appear to be two varieties of the track:
a] Album - Heard as presented on Album
b] Film Mix - Predominately the same as album but ends with isolated choir
2) Goblins - Heard on the album with a slight overlap of "Main Titles." Intended for a deleted sequence seen in a rough cut on the DVD.
3) True Loves Eyes / Cottage - This is the first song from the film. Seeing as the orchestra was recorded separately, there is a vocal track for nearly every language but as far as the main English recordings, here are several versions:
a] Album - purported to be recorded with a session singer although she sings very similarly to Mia Sara (Lilly).
b] UK Theatrical - Mia Sara singing (more freely) the words to the song solo until music dials in later.
c] DC (Directors Cut) - The Album vocals but with the music dialed in late.
4) Jack Surprises Lilly - This track is presented in its two incarnations on each album respectively.
a] The original Album release presents this cut with the same "length" intro but the interruption of Jack arriving is longer.
b] The SILVA release uses the Film version of this cue which shortens the fanfare as Jack appears.
5) The Unicorns - Connected to both versions of 'Jack Surprises Lilly,' this cue is as heard on the album.
6) Living River - This is the second song of the score and like the first, there are a few variances.
a] Album - purported to be recorded with a session singer although she sings very similarly to Mia Sara
b] UK Theatrical - Mia Sara singing more freely in the scene
7) Bumps and the Hollows - This is the third song heard in the film, there are a few variances.
a] Album - purported to be recorded with a session singer although she sings very similarly to Mia Sara
b] UK Theatrical - Mia Sara singing more freely in the scene
8) The Freeze - This cue is perhaps one of the more interesting ones!
This cue is NOT heard in its entirety in the film (at least not during the sequence) OR on ANY of the albums but IS, however, tracked to other areas of the film. Using some fancy editing, the creators of the film took this cue and lowered the pitch by a whole octave while maintaining the SPEED of the playback (which if you listen carefully to the film channels causes minor distortion).
This cue is tracked into two scenes:
a] The Male Unicorn attacks Lilly (DC only)
b] The reveal of The Great Tree/ Introduction to Meg (Both Versions)
In both of these scenes, the cue (mostly the opening but including some of the later part) are played at the octave down pitch which gives it a haunting sound (especially the human voices in the mix).
As far as the album presentations go the introduction, which is a throbbing low-synth beat, is shortened to only 5-6 seconds.
The re-release on the SILVA album shortens it even further with the music supervisor admitting that due to the "repetitive" nature of the synth beat, they felt it wasn't "listenable" so they removed even more of it.
The full version is this repetitive synth throbbing with occasional bright synth glissandos (heard modulated down in the tracked scenes).
9) The Gump - This sequence is interesting in the film as it reveals not only the level of editing done to the video but to the audio. There are a great deal of created parts (such as 'The Freeze' tracked moments and certain others where endings of cues are faked or new intros are made by looping material.
This particular has a sustained violin pitch but I think it's faked from a moment in the cue looped. The music continues on as heard on the album until the end of the cue.
The album presents the entirety of this cue but the film, at the end, layers in what should be the next cue which I call "Life Be But a Dream/Silence!" This cue is heard only in the film (not present on the album at all) and even in the film seems to have an issue where as we see a Faerie do a cartwheel in the background, the music fades immediately to the mono center channel (possibly implying the music was lost and only a downmix survived for usage in the film). The "Silence" part is cut into the end of a piece of tracked music ("The Jewels") and seems original to the scene (it is presented in stereo again).
10) Faerie Dance - This is another interesting cue. According to the music suporvisor for the SILVA release, the surviving recordings include FOUR versions of this cue (two mixes of two versions really).
a] Album - This version is presented on the album with a different Fiddle intro and is purported to be a concert arrangement.
b] Film Version - This version has a fiddle which plays the intro and is layered prominently throughout
c] Alt Album - A secondary (not leaked) version of the album with an alternate fiddle line
d] Film Version (Isolated) - This version was leaked in lower quality (and wrong pitch) and contains an incomplete/alternate mix
The final film version is in essence the isolated and the Film version's mono mix (shown in the reconstructed scene extra) fully integrated together. The "Album" version fits the scene precisely too so it may NOT be a concert arrangement as the tempo is exactly the same (and changes in the same places as the film). It may be an early version since an on set audio would have been needed to perform with.
11) The Riddle - This track is presented in its complete form on the album but is edited down slightly in the film (each version). There are also two versions of this cue:
a] Version 1 - Although about the same length of time, there is a small omission near the end.
b] Version 2 - One of the final orchestral statements is looped
12) Forgive Me - This track is presented in its complete form on the album but is edited down slightly in the film (each version).
13) The Armour - The album presents this track in its entirety and includes the next cue layered only slightly.
14) Oona's Secret - The album presents this track in its entirety but it is tracked slightly off in the film to it's true placement.
15) Get The Mare - This leaked cue goes unused in the film and is purportedly for the conversation between Darkness and the goblins about the Unicorns. The sun is seen to be rising which start the cue out in a glorifying womens choir only to transition into a chant like mens choir as Darkness "commands" the goblins to bring him the Mare.
16) Frying Pan - This exciting cue used while Brown Tom defends the Mare against the Goblins plays with the two styles/themes of the Goblins/Faeries in an interplay. Unreleased, this cue is not used in the film, replaced with tracked music from 'Darkness Falls.'
17) Following the Goblins - Meg - This cue remains unused in the final film but is on the albums as track "Oona - The Jewels." The cue begins after Jack turns to Gump and declares they must follow the Goblin's tracks in the snow. It continues as the group enter into the swamp surrounding the Great Tree and even up until the reveal of Meg Mucklebones. In the film, an octave pitched down version of "The Freeze" is used instead.
18) Mare in the Dungeon - The album presents this cue connected to "Darkness Appears" in the opening of "Darkness Falls."
19) Demon Chant - This 'source' like chanting heard within the Dungeon is only used in the film, heavily mixed into the sfx.
20) Oona's Reveal - Presented on the albums in the track "Oona - The Jewels," this track begins as Brown Tom hold back a sneeze (and fails) and continues until Oona's feelings are hurt by Jack's refusal to kiss her.
21) Hall of Columns - This unused track would have begun as the dark spirit speaks to darkness saying "Win her, Woo her. Make her one of us!" and then cuts to Lilly running through a hall and jumping over fire. It continues as she is persued by Oona through the Hall of Columns and into Darkness' lair.
22) Gift of Jewels - This cue is presented on the album completely. The UK Theatrical cut includes the predominence of this cue while the Directors cut, due to it's need to change/add play time, could not use the cue as written and only uses a small part of it
23) The Dress Waltz - This fantastic cue plays exactly where you imagine it does within the film. There is, however, a small disrepency with full play time and the way it is presented in the film. Within the various versions, this dance is changed a few times. Generally of the two versions using Goldsmith's amazing dance cue, the ending is trimmed slightly to time the end the slow turn reveal with the end of the dance. But, with reinserting the "combination" shot where the dress finally overcomes Lilly, it would seem that the dance should have synced up slightly differently at the end with the final reveal being a little latter.
The end of this cue, however, is not presented on the albums and was only available due to a leaked (and incorrect pitch) version of the cue. Once corrected, it's obvious that the album (and the film) simply fade out this ending. The directors cut even goes a step further by taking the very bright and harsh synth up-glissando and layering it over the dance as the dress "combines" with Lilly. This makes sense since part of the dance is cut and it would no longer sync with her slow turn and close up reveal.
24) Darkness Appears - This cue, heard on the album in the opening to "Darkness Falls" has two versions.
a] Album (Choir Mix) - This version is the more familiar which includes a low mens choir.
b] Film Version (Orchestral) - This version is purely orchestra and heard only in the film. It is also tracked to several moments but is intended here.
25) Setting the Mirrors - I have become increasingly unconvinced of what this cue is. I believe, due to the placement on the leak, that this track must follow the "Dress Waltz" although it shares more similarities with the opening to "Following the Goblins - Meg." It is not impossible that it is a similar version meant as a harkoning back to that motif for usage with Jack et al. as they traverse Darkness' lair. It is, however, possible that it is an alternate intro to "Following the Goblins."
26) KITCHEN SCENE MUSIC - This scene is kind of an 'screwball.' Most of the film had some sort of score written for it but this sequence apparently did not. Goldsmith is quoted as saying he didn't have time to finish the score to the film and its possible that this sequence which, excepting maybe the final moments, works fine without music so it may have been left for last.
In the UK/Directors cut however, there is some music in the scene. Here is the breakdown:
1) Unknown tense string intro (Possibly Library Music by Tim Souster too)
2) Psycho II (Jerry Goldsmith) - The track 'The Cellar' is edited down for the middle section.
3) SLUGS: The Movie (Tim Souster) - Unknown track name to this unreleased score
4) Psycho II (Jerry Goldsmith) - The track 'Main Title' plays here after the fight and for the reveal of 'Light'
26) Without Light, There is No Dark - This cue, meant to cover the entirety of the final battle starting with Darkness reciting the history of time itself up until his destruction, is presented on the album fully. The film utilizes most of it but does cut away certain sections and tracks some to other areas of the film.
27) The Ring - The cue is presented completely on the album
28) Lilly Awakens - This cue has two different versions.
a] Original Extended Cut (not seen till the DC) - The original scene as structured in the Directors Cut has Lilly speaking to jack more and even asking if it was "all a dream." This cut does not dramatize the SUN but rather the RING which Jack has already found and placed on Lilly's hand.
b] Shortened Cut (Unused) - This secondary cut removes most of Lilly's dialogue and as she awakens and see's the SUN the music dramatizes this moment instead. The UK Theatrical cut still doesn't utilize the 2nd version but pieces of the first THEN skips all together the singing part in the beginning of the next cue, finishing the film as spotted.
29) True Loves Eyes - Credits - The album presents this song with the full set of lyrics while the Directors cut does not utilize the final verse. Both uses of this cue overlay the beginning of the credits (the Unicorn Theme) over visuals of the Unicorns and the Faeries waving goodbye.
30) Sing The Wee - This song used in the Credits is purported to be the song intended to be sung by the Faeries as they travel to find the unicorns (which is possible as there is a gap in where music would go) but tonally does not seem to fit the section of the film (which may be why it was cut). If it was intended, I don't believe this VERSION of it was intended to go there. This version, both in length and style, seem to fit more appropriately in the credits as an alternate "Sing The Wee" section to what's heard in the album assembly (which mimics whats heard in the film).
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As some versions are only heard in the film mixes, some tracks contain some minor sfx. I've tried my best to present as much as I can and as cleanly as I can. I've notated sources below
LEGEND: The Masterpiece **UPDATED AS OF 12/8/13**
Disc 1 FLAC (https://mega.nz/#!yMVDlL6I!Mk95rQbF5txi0BcuPbaXLNs0ndDcVeiAIWxJM9v9v3w)[1:15:35]
01] Universal Logo (Jerry Goldsmith) - [0:24]
02] Main Titles - [2:06]
03] The Goblins (Omit) - [3:45]
04] My True Love's Eyes- The Cottage - [5:07]
05] Jack Surprises Lilly (Revised) - The Unicorns - [8:12] #
06] Living River - [2:28]
07] Bumps and Hollows - The Freeze (Complete) - [5:19] #
08] The Gump - Faeries - [1:22]
09] Faerie Dance (Complete Final Mix) - [2:02] */#
10] The Riddle - [3:42]
11] Forgive Me - [5:15]
12] The Armour - [1:38]
13] Oona's Secret - [0:43]
14] Get The Mare (Omit) - [0:43] *
15] Frying Pan (Omit) - [0:53] *
16] Following The Goblins - Meg (Omit) - [1:54]
17] Mare in the Dungeon - [0:54]
18] Oona's Reveal - [3:00]
19] Hall of Columns (Omit) - [1:58] *
20] Gifts of Jewels - [1:54]
21] The Dress Waltz - [3:03] *
22] Darkness Appears (Choir Mix) - [0:38]
23] Setting The Mirrors (Omit) - [0:35] *
24] Without Light There is No Darkness - [6:06]
25] The Ring - Lilly Awakens (Alternate) - [6:31]
26] True Loves Eyes - Credits - [5:20]
Disc 2 FLAC (https://mega.nz/#!yR0DXDgb!RxvbmUh80W38PNcXm4dVCOZbTFbZqaGRicGyMHZ8KVI) [1:05:43]
01] Universal Logo - Short (Jerry Goldsmith) - [0:09]
02] Main Title (Film Ending) - [2:06] #
03] True Loves Eyes (Isolated) - [1:43] #
04] Jack Surprises Lilly (Alternate) - The Unicorns (Alternate Mix) - [7:57]
05] Living River (Isolated Orchestra) - [2:28] #
06] Bumps and the Hollows (Orchestral) - Freeze (Album Assembly) - [5:00] #
07] Gump - Life Be But a Dream - Silence - [1:35] #
08] Faerie Dance (Alternate Final Mix) - [1:56] #
09] Faerie Dance (Isolated Final Orchestra) - [1:52] *
10] Faerie Dance (Album Alternate Mix) - [1:59] #
11] Faerie Dance (Isolated Album Orchestra) - [1:55]
12] The Riddle (Alternate Ending) - [3:42]
13] Sing The Wee - [1:11]
14] Demon Chant - [1:38] #
15] Darkness Appears (Orchestral) - [0:37] #
16] Tracked Music Edit (SLUGS The Movie - Psycho II) - [2:46] #
17] Psycho II Suite (Jerry Goldsmith) - [12:42]
18] Lilly Awakens (Film Version) - [4:03] #
19] Finale No Song (Film Version) - Credits - [5:05] #
20] True Loves Eyes (Orchestral) - Credits - [5:16] #
* Contains Bootleg Material
# Contains Blu Ray Rip
EDIT: Below is included in the above links
So here's the INTERESTING development:
It was brought to my attention that I had missed some details (minor but yes I missed some things).
So, I have adjusted.
1) Jack Surprises Lily (Revised) - Unicorns [8:12]
This track had some interesting changes made on the albums which should have tipped me off. First off, there are two introductions. One is extended slightly longer than the other. Then, in the area where the trumpet gets bright and brassy before the choir comes in (the first true reveal of the river just before Jack picks a Lilly for Lilly) there was this odd edit in one of the releases. This implied that an alternate take had been used and pasted over an earlier take (but the effects of this were evident).
What this should have meant was for me to check in more detail this first half which I had chocked up to being only different due to the introduction.
Comparing to the blu ray again, I found that the film version (with the shorter introduction) has a slight extension in the area around 3:30 as the two arrive at the river. I've replaced this missing segment into the track now. There weren't many sfx so I've included it on Disc 1.
2) Gump - Life Be But a Dream - Silence [1:35]
This has no new material but I've gone back and tried to improve the sound a bit more finding a cleaner rip on an alternate edit of the film.
3) Lilly Awakens (Film Version) - [04:03]
I had originally used the Extended Directors cut of the film to produce this but have since found that the European cut was a bit easier to extract the music from and so I've gone back and cleaned it up a bit more. I find it much more listenable.
While doing this, however, I noticed what I had assumed was just a different mix near the end of the scene of Jack and Lilly reuniting to be an entirely different performance.
Comparing to the music of "True Loves Eyes" it became obvious that although a similar section exists in the version with the song, this was intended to fulfill the same section with the song omitted and with Jack and Lilly running off Together, instead of Jack staying behind.
Thus...
4) Finale No Song (Film Version)- Credits - [5:05]
This is the version heard in the European cut of the film omitting Lilly's reprise of "True Love's Eyes" and continuing into the credits.
You should be able to, excepting on Disc 2, replace all the tracks with these. On Disc 2, however, the "Finale No Song" will need to be added as the 2nd to last track (or however you'd like it)
Enjoy!
As many of you know, LEGEND is a 1985 film directed by Ridley Scott. In that era (and to an extent today) has an issue of doubting his films brilliance and bringing them under a hatchet so to speak. This film is no exception. Late in production, Ridley (for various reasons) decided to take to the editing room and cut down a film that was over two hours into a mere hour and a half to only further take the film and cut it shorter for American Audiences. Part of this decision also meant having the film re-scored.
Jerry Goldsmith worked on the film early in production, producing songs and dances for a few sequences in the film which, due to the rescore, were cut out of the American version.
--
The main story is of a Princess who ventures into the woods to see a friend (lover) of hers who lives in the woods in Harmony with the animals and nature. She and the boy have developed a youthful-pure love for each-other and in this love, the Boy decides to break a rule: to show the most pure creatures in existence to his princess. The Unicorns.
Darkness, played to perfection by Tim Curry, wishing to end the reign of "Light" in the world, wishes to have the Unicorns killed so he sends his goblins out to follow Lilly to them as "innocence" is the only lure to the Unicorns.
Lilly is obsessed with Magic, finding, seeing, and touching it and it's this obsession that leads to the slaying of one of the Unicorns which launches Jack and Lilly into a journey to return Light to the world and balance to the Universe.
The score, appropriately, is lush with swelling and romantic strings but influenced with electronic sounds to fill it with a sense of "magic."
The Jerry Goldsmith score has always been some what of a mystery. Very little has survived time and what has survived is confusing and with so many people attempting to leak so much, there is even greater confusion.
Here is what we know:
1) According to inside sources the written score was misplaced and presumed destroyed.
2) According to the sources that produced the SILVA album, the sessions are also misplaced and presumed destroyed.
3) The SILVA album was produced from the same elements as the original LP Album
4) The only existing elements remain on a DAT tape used to back up the music intended for use on the original LP
5) The elements on the DAT tape are often pieces of cues, cut down for the album production.
6) There are TWO official releases and MANY bootlegs.
7) There are no known track names and no information on what/how much Goldsmith wrote/intended
Working from all this information, I've tracked down everything I can find and so far here I've discovered a few things.
First off, lets look at the releases:
1986 UP-ART
Compact Disc: 86002
Time: 46:40
(International soundtrack)
1. My True Loves Eyes
2. The Riddle
3. Sing The Wee
4. The Goblins
5. The Dress Waltz
6. The Ring
7. The Unicorns
8. Bumps and Hollows
9. Forgive Me
10. Re-United
2002 Silva America (rerelease of the 1992 Silva Screen Records America, Inc.)
Compact Disc : SSD 1138
Time: 70:50
THE TRACKS :
1. Main Title*/The Goblins
2. My True Love's Eyes/The Cottage
3. The Unicorns
4. Living River*/Bumps and Hollows/The Freeze
5. The Faeries*/The Riddle
6. Sing the Wee
7. Forgive Me
8. Faerie Dance*
9. The Armour*
10. Oona*/The Jewels*
11. Dress Waltz
12. Darkness Falls*
13. The Ring
14. Reunited
*contains previously unreleased material
What you'll notice is that there is a lot of music that's on both, but the newer release does have a few more tracks.
Here is one of the most common boot's you'll find too:

As you can see, it's 2 discs and has quite a few tracks!
Looks like a lot of score right? Well, I did some detective work and I found that for the most part, the two commercially available albums have the same material but as mentioned, since the score was cut up into parts on the DAT tape, there are some minor mixing differences. Also, with the re-release they chose to present the score more as 'intended' in some moments and in others to cut repetitive parts to make it more listenable.
The bootleg makes it seem like there is a LOT more than there is too. There are some extra tracks that leaked from an unknown source and are transferred at an incorrect speed and are thus presented on the boots in the wrong speed/pitch. Once this has been adjusted, a few things become clear.
1) There is no "Unicorn Alternate" but what is heard is really just a slightly different revision/take of the opening bars to what I call "Jack Surprises Lilly." The rest seems different because of minor assembly changes between the original/SILVA releases
2) The Riddle Alternate is nothing more than the opening bars of "The Riddle" as heard on the original release but omitted on the SILVA release with a repeat of two measures near the end. Once you separate "The Faerie" and "The Riddle" and replace those few seconds, then you have corrected it. Although those repeated measures near the end are a different performance .
3) There ARE two "Faerie Dances:" The first is whats heard on the album, the 2nd is the version as heard in the deleted scene and intended for use in the final film.
4) The two "Hall of Columns" are the same with the 2nd being presented at the wrong speed but with an extra cue which I believe is for when they place the mirrors throughout Darkness' lair.
5) There is only ONE "Dress Waltz." One version presented is at the wrong speed but also has the true ending omitted form the two releases (probably for listen-ability sake) You can hear on both releases the music begin to go to this cut section but it fades out before the synth/orchestral glissando
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Here is a break down of all the music as used in the film:
1) Main Title - This cue is used several times within the various edits of the score, tracked to at least two other scenes:
a] Opening - Correct Placement (with same editing)
b] When Jack, Gump, and the others are traveling to find the unicorns
c] When Oona is following Lilly through the forest.
Of these, there appear to be two varieties of the track:
a] Album - Heard as presented on Album
b] Film Mix - Predominately the same as album but ends with isolated choir
2) Goblins - Heard on the album with a slight overlap of "Main Titles." Intended for a deleted sequence seen in a rough cut on the DVD.
3) True Loves Eyes / Cottage - This is the first song from the film. Seeing as the orchestra was recorded separately, there is a vocal track for nearly every language but as far as the main English recordings, here are several versions:
a] Album - purported to be recorded with a session singer although she sings very similarly to Mia Sara (Lilly).
b] UK Theatrical - Mia Sara singing (more freely) the words to the song solo until music dials in later.
c] DC (Directors Cut) - The Album vocals but with the music dialed in late.
4) Jack Surprises Lilly - This track is presented in its two incarnations on each album respectively.
a] The original Album release presents this cut with the same "length" intro but the interruption of Jack arriving is longer.
b] The SILVA release uses the Film version of this cue which shortens the fanfare as Jack appears.
5) The Unicorns - Connected to both versions of 'Jack Surprises Lilly,' this cue is as heard on the album.
6) Living River - This is the second song of the score and like the first, there are a few variances.
a] Album - purported to be recorded with a session singer although she sings very similarly to Mia Sara
b] UK Theatrical - Mia Sara singing more freely in the scene
7) Bumps and the Hollows - This is the third song heard in the film, there are a few variances.
a] Album - purported to be recorded with a session singer although she sings very similarly to Mia Sara
b] UK Theatrical - Mia Sara singing more freely in the scene
8) The Freeze - This cue is perhaps one of the more interesting ones!
This cue is NOT heard in its entirety in the film (at least not during the sequence) OR on ANY of the albums but IS, however, tracked to other areas of the film. Using some fancy editing, the creators of the film took this cue and lowered the pitch by a whole octave while maintaining the SPEED of the playback (which if you listen carefully to the film channels causes minor distortion).
This cue is tracked into two scenes:
a] The Male Unicorn attacks Lilly (DC only)
b] The reveal of The Great Tree/ Introduction to Meg (Both Versions)
In both of these scenes, the cue (mostly the opening but including some of the later part) are played at the octave down pitch which gives it a haunting sound (especially the human voices in the mix).
As far as the album presentations go the introduction, which is a throbbing low-synth beat, is shortened to only 5-6 seconds.
The re-release on the SILVA album shortens it even further with the music supervisor admitting that due to the "repetitive" nature of the synth beat, they felt it wasn't "listenable" so they removed even more of it.
The full version is this repetitive synth throbbing with occasional bright synth glissandos (heard modulated down in the tracked scenes).
9) The Gump - This sequence is interesting in the film as it reveals not only the level of editing done to the video but to the audio. There are a great deal of created parts (such as 'The Freeze' tracked moments and certain others where endings of cues are faked or new intros are made by looping material.
This particular has a sustained violin pitch but I think it's faked from a moment in the cue looped. The music continues on as heard on the album until the end of the cue.
The album presents the entirety of this cue but the film, at the end, layers in what should be the next cue which I call "Life Be But a Dream/Silence!" This cue is heard only in the film (not present on the album at all) and even in the film seems to have an issue where as we see a Faerie do a cartwheel in the background, the music fades immediately to the mono center channel (possibly implying the music was lost and only a downmix survived for usage in the film). The "Silence" part is cut into the end of a piece of tracked music ("The Jewels") and seems original to the scene (it is presented in stereo again).
10) Faerie Dance - This is another interesting cue. According to the music suporvisor for the SILVA release, the surviving recordings include FOUR versions of this cue (two mixes of two versions really).
a] Album - This version is presented on the album with a different Fiddle intro and is purported to be a concert arrangement.
b] Film Version - This version has a fiddle which plays the intro and is layered prominently throughout
c] Alt Album - A secondary (not leaked) version of the album with an alternate fiddle line
d] Film Version (Isolated) - This version was leaked in lower quality (and wrong pitch) and contains an incomplete/alternate mix
The final film version is in essence the isolated and the Film version's mono mix (shown in the reconstructed scene extra) fully integrated together. The "Album" version fits the scene precisely too so it may NOT be a concert arrangement as the tempo is exactly the same (and changes in the same places as the film). It may be an early version since an on set audio would have been needed to perform with.
11) The Riddle - This track is presented in its complete form on the album but is edited down slightly in the film (each version). There are also two versions of this cue:
a] Version 1 - Although about the same length of time, there is a small omission near the end.
b] Version 2 - One of the final orchestral statements is looped
12) Forgive Me - This track is presented in its complete form on the album but is edited down slightly in the film (each version).
13) The Armour - The album presents this track in its entirety and includes the next cue layered only slightly.
14) Oona's Secret - The album presents this track in its entirety but it is tracked slightly off in the film to it's true placement.
15) Get The Mare - This leaked cue goes unused in the film and is purportedly for the conversation between Darkness and the goblins about the Unicorns. The sun is seen to be rising which start the cue out in a glorifying womens choir only to transition into a chant like mens choir as Darkness "commands" the goblins to bring him the Mare.
16) Frying Pan - This exciting cue used while Brown Tom defends the Mare against the Goblins plays with the two styles/themes of the Goblins/Faeries in an interplay. Unreleased, this cue is not used in the film, replaced with tracked music from 'Darkness Falls.'
17) Following the Goblins - Meg - This cue remains unused in the final film but is on the albums as track "Oona - The Jewels." The cue begins after Jack turns to Gump and declares they must follow the Goblin's tracks in the snow. It continues as the group enter into the swamp surrounding the Great Tree and even up until the reveal of Meg Mucklebones. In the film, an octave pitched down version of "The Freeze" is used instead.
18) Mare in the Dungeon - The album presents this cue connected to "Darkness Appears" in the opening of "Darkness Falls."
19) Demon Chant - This 'source' like chanting heard within the Dungeon is only used in the film, heavily mixed into the sfx.
20) Oona's Reveal - Presented on the albums in the track "Oona - The Jewels," this track begins as Brown Tom hold back a sneeze (and fails) and continues until Oona's feelings are hurt by Jack's refusal to kiss her.
21) Hall of Columns - This unused track would have begun as the dark spirit speaks to darkness saying "Win her, Woo her. Make her one of us!" and then cuts to Lilly running through a hall and jumping over fire. It continues as she is persued by Oona through the Hall of Columns and into Darkness' lair.
22) Gift of Jewels - This cue is presented on the album completely. The UK Theatrical cut includes the predominence of this cue while the Directors cut, due to it's need to change/add play time, could not use the cue as written and only uses a small part of it
23) The Dress Waltz - This fantastic cue plays exactly where you imagine it does within the film. There is, however, a small disrepency with full play time and the way it is presented in the film. Within the various versions, this dance is changed a few times. Generally of the two versions using Goldsmith's amazing dance cue, the ending is trimmed slightly to time the end the slow turn reveal with the end of the dance. But, with reinserting the "combination" shot where the dress finally overcomes Lilly, it would seem that the dance should have synced up slightly differently at the end with the final reveal being a little latter.
The end of this cue, however, is not presented on the albums and was only available due to a leaked (and incorrect pitch) version of the cue. Once corrected, it's obvious that the album (and the film) simply fade out this ending. The directors cut even goes a step further by taking the very bright and harsh synth up-glissando and layering it over the dance as the dress "combines" with Lilly. This makes sense since part of the dance is cut and it would no longer sync with her slow turn and close up reveal.
24) Darkness Appears - This cue, heard on the album in the opening to "Darkness Falls" has two versions.
a] Album (Choir Mix) - This version is the more familiar which includes a low mens choir.
b] Film Version (Orchestral) - This version is purely orchestra and heard only in the film. It is also tracked to several moments but is intended here.
25) Setting the Mirrors - I have become increasingly unconvinced of what this cue is. I believe, due to the placement on the leak, that this track must follow the "Dress Waltz" although it shares more similarities with the opening to "Following the Goblins - Meg." It is not impossible that it is a similar version meant as a harkoning back to that motif for usage with Jack et al. as they traverse Darkness' lair. It is, however, possible that it is an alternate intro to "Following the Goblins."
26) KITCHEN SCENE MUSIC - This scene is kind of an 'screwball.' Most of the film had some sort of score written for it but this sequence apparently did not. Goldsmith is quoted as saying he didn't have time to finish the score to the film and its possible that this sequence which, excepting maybe the final moments, works fine without music so it may have been left for last.
In the UK/Directors cut however, there is some music in the scene. Here is the breakdown:
1) Unknown tense string intro (Possibly Library Music by Tim Souster too)
2) Psycho II (Jerry Goldsmith) - The track 'The Cellar' is edited down for the middle section.
3) SLUGS: The Movie (Tim Souster) - Unknown track name to this unreleased score
4) Psycho II (Jerry Goldsmith) - The track 'Main Title' plays here after the fight and for the reveal of 'Light'
26) Without Light, There is No Dark - This cue, meant to cover the entirety of the final battle starting with Darkness reciting the history of time itself up until his destruction, is presented on the album fully. The film utilizes most of it but does cut away certain sections and tracks some to other areas of the film.
27) The Ring - The cue is presented completely on the album
28) Lilly Awakens - This cue has two different versions.
a] Original Extended Cut (not seen till the DC) - The original scene as structured in the Directors Cut has Lilly speaking to jack more and even asking if it was "all a dream." This cut does not dramatize the SUN but rather the RING which Jack has already found and placed on Lilly's hand.
b] Shortened Cut (Unused) - This secondary cut removes most of Lilly's dialogue and as she awakens and see's the SUN the music dramatizes this moment instead. The UK Theatrical cut still doesn't utilize the 2nd version but pieces of the first THEN skips all together the singing part in the beginning of the next cue, finishing the film as spotted.
29) True Loves Eyes - Credits - The album presents this song with the full set of lyrics while the Directors cut does not utilize the final verse. Both uses of this cue overlay the beginning of the credits (the Unicorn Theme) over visuals of the Unicorns and the Faeries waving goodbye.
30) Sing The Wee - This song used in the Credits is purported to be the song intended to be sung by the Faeries as they travel to find the unicorns (which is possible as there is a gap in where music would go) but tonally does not seem to fit the section of the film (which may be why it was cut). If it was intended, I don't believe this VERSION of it was intended to go there. This version, both in length and style, seem to fit more appropriately in the credits as an alternate "Sing The Wee" section to what's heard in the album assembly (which mimics whats heard in the film).
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As some versions are only heard in the film mixes, some tracks contain some minor sfx. I've tried my best to present as much as I can and as cleanly as I can. I've notated sources below
LEGEND: The Masterpiece **UPDATED AS OF 12/8/13**
Disc 1 FLAC (https://mega.nz/#!yMVDlL6I!Mk95rQbF5txi0BcuPbaXLNs0ndDcVeiAIWxJM9v9v3w)[1:15:35]
01] Universal Logo (Jerry Goldsmith) - [0:24]
02] Main Titles - [2:06]
03] The Goblins (Omit) - [3:45]
04] My True Love's Eyes- The Cottage - [5:07]
05] Jack Surprises Lilly (Revised) - The Unicorns - [8:12] #
06] Living River - [2:28]
07] Bumps and Hollows - The Freeze (Complete) - [5:19] #
08] The Gump - Faeries - [1:22]
09] Faerie Dance (Complete Final Mix) - [2:02] */#
10] The Riddle - [3:42]
11] Forgive Me - [5:15]
12] The Armour - [1:38]
13] Oona's Secret - [0:43]
14] Get The Mare (Omit) - [0:43] *
15] Frying Pan (Omit) - [0:53] *
16] Following The Goblins - Meg (Omit) - [1:54]
17] Mare in the Dungeon - [0:54]
18] Oona's Reveal - [3:00]
19] Hall of Columns (Omit) - [1:58] *
20] Gifts of Jewels - [1:54]
21] The Dress Waltz - [3:03] *
22] Darkness Appears (Choir Mix) - [0:38]
23] Setting The Mirrors (Omit) - [0:35] *
24] Without Light There is No Darkness - [6:06]
25] The Ring - Lilly Awakens (Alternate) - [6:31]
26] True Loves Eyes - Credits - [5:20]
Disc 2 FLAC (https://mega.nz/#!yR0DXDgb!RxvbmUh80W38PNcXm4dVCOZbTFbZqaGRicGyMHZ8KVI) [1:05:43]
01] Universal Logo - Short (Jerry Goldsmith) - [0:09]
02] Main Title (Film Ending) - [2:06] #
03] True Loves Eyes (Isolated) - [1:43] #
04] Jack Surprises Lilly (Alternate) - The Unicorns (Alternate Mix) - [7:57]
05] Living River (Isolated Orchestra) - [2:28] #
06] Bumps and the Hollows (Orchestral) - Freeze (Album Assembly) - [5:00] #
07] Gump - Life Be But a Dream - Silence - [1:35] #
08] Faerie Dance (Alternate Final Mix) - [1:56] #
09] Faerie Dance (Isolated Final Orchestra) - [1:52] *
10] Faerie Dance (Album Alternate Mix) - [1:59] #
11] Faerie Dance (Isolated Album Orchestra) - [1:55]
12] The Riddle (Alternate Ending) - [3:42]
13] Sing The Wee - [1:11]
14] Demon Chant - [1:38] #
15] Darkness Appears (Orchestral) - [0:37] #
16] Tracked Music Edit (SLUGS The Movie - Psycho II) - [2:46] #
17] Psycho II Suite (Jerry Goldsmith) - [12:42]
18] Lilly Awakens (Film Version) - [4:03] #
19] Finale No Song (Film Version) - Credits - [5:05] #
20] True Loves Eyes (Orchestral) - Credits - [5:16] #
* Contains Bootleg Material
# Contains Blu Ray Rip
EDIT: Below is included in the above links
So here's the INTERESTING development:
It was brought to my attention that I had missed some details (minor but yes I missed some things).
So, I have adjusted.
1) Jack Surprises Lily (Revised) - Unicorns [8:12]
This track had some interesting changes made on the albums which should have tipped me off. First off, there are two introductions. One is extended slightly longer than the other. Then, in the area where the trumpet gets bright and brassy before the choir comes in (the first true reveal of the river just before Jack picks a Lilly for Lilly) there was this odd edit in one of the releases. This implied that an alternate take had been used and pasted over an earlier take (but the effects of this were evident).
What this should have meant was for me to check in more detail this first half which I had chocked up to being only different due to the introduction.
Comparing to the blu ray again, I found that the film version (with the shorter introduction) has a slight extension in the area around 3:30 as the two arrive at the river. I've replaced this missing segment into the track now. There weren't many sfx so I've included it on Disc 1.
2) Gump - Life Be But a Dream - Silence [1:35]
This has no new material but I've gone back and tried to improve the sound a bit more finding a cleaner rip on an alternate edit of the film.
3) Lilly Awakens (Film Version) - [04:03]
I had originally used the Extended Directors cut of the film to produce this but have since found that the European cut was a bit easier to extract the music from and so I've gone back and cleaned it up a bit more. I find it much more listenable.
While doing this, however, I noticed what I had assumed was just a different mix near the end of the scene of Jack and Lilly reuniting to be an entirely different performance.
Comparing to the music of "True Loves Eyes" it became obvious that although a similar section exists in the version with the song, this was intended to fulfill the same section with the song omitted and with Jack and Lilly running off Together, instead of Jack staying behind.
Thus...
4) Finale No Song (Film Version)- Credits - [5:05]
This is the version heard in the European cut of the film omitting Lilly's reprise of "True Love's Eyes" and continuing into the credits.
You should be able to, excepting on Disc 2, replace all the tracks with these. On Disc 2, however, the "Finale No Song" will need to be added as the 2nd to last track (or however you'd like it)
Enjoy!