Title's self explanatory. Post the worst anime you've ever seen, and what was so terrible about it.

Feel free to rant- this thread will be more entertaining that way. ^^

Also, please don't flame anyone because they dislike something you like.

Worst anime eh?

Lemme see.. Virtua Fighter & Monster Rancher. I hate the animation and the characters.

Kimera, see it and you'll cry for torturing yourself. I mean c'mon. Vampires being aliens, that's bullshit.

Originally posted by Shintaro Amano
Kimera, see it and you'll cry for torturing yourself. I mean c'mon. Vampires being aliens, that's bullshit.

Eh, vampires as aliens isn't necessarily bad. There's a pretty good novel about a vampiric sort of race existing on Mars I read a few years back.

Kimera was also done very badly. It was too short, and too fucking retarded.

Originally posted by Chelsea
Worst anime eh?

Lemme see.. Virtua Fighter & Monster Rancher. I hate the animation and the characters.

I thought Monster Rancher was one of the better Pokemonish cartoons.


As for the worst I've seen... I don't remember too many that I seriously disliked or that were badly done(I'm kinda picky about what I check out =|)... but it was probably "Art of Fighting". A real shame too, since I love the characters in that game almost as much as Fatal Fury.=\

I'm going with.... Hamtaro! I couldn't stand that show! Everytime one of those hamsters showed up on my TV screen I just wanted to stab myself with a fork. Runner up would probably Pokemon. I used to love the games but the show sucks.

Pokemon, Digmon and Sonic X, especially Sonic X.

Dragon Ball Z.

Bar none, the worst I've ever seen was definitely Kimera. That's kinda sad because I think the concept actually had some potential.

Aside from that, I thought the Escaflowne movie was pretty awful. Dagger of Kamui sucked pretty bad also.

Pokemon and Monster Rancher are bad...Dragon Ball Z has some bad stuff too...I dont like how they draw the eyes.

cartoons, like poke'mon and hamtaro are for kids man.... even if the poke'mon game deserves some praise when the anime must be avoided at all times.

Dragon Ball Z was ok for a while, the concept of being able to blow up a planet within a few seconds after collecting 100 tons of energy while the veins poped out of your muscles and screaming something like KAMEHAMEHA!

And that's only training ^ because there's always some dude that comes along that's ten times stronger, an attack like that doesn't leave a scratch while he laughs in your face, I always thought that sounded like fun, fighting on a god like level was an everyday thing.

But alas there were numerous problems with DBZ, one of which has how stretched it was, I actually remember watching an episode with no fighting or important dialogue, the entire episode was.... waiting..... waiting for Goku to show up.... they were all just sitting there.................. 30 minutes people....... waiting............

um......the worst anime ive ever seen was grrl power there r plenty more its jus they were so bad that i didnt bother remembering there names

Originally posted by rezo


I thought Monster Rancher was one of the better Pokemonish cartoons.



Nah, I could still tolerate Pokemon, but not Monster Rancher. Well at least the opening and ending songs of Monster Rancher aren't bad, LOL.

Fist of the North hand star. Some of you may like it, but I don't. The drawing quality is just so.. ridiculous.. and it's bad in both dubbed and subbed versions. T_T .... Pokemon, Digimon cartoons= garbage. Inuyasha is starting to tick me off a little.. it's becoming lame.. I hate Sango. Um...Fushigi Yuugi has a really bad ending. It seems like the creator suddenly went downhill with it and decided to hurry up and wrap up the ending. Oh yaeh.. can't forget DBZ... have they ever heard of "PRUNES"? It would cure their constipation problem.

Originally posted by The_Guillotine_Girl
Um...Fushigi Yuugi has a really bad ending. It seems like the creator suddenly went downhill with it and decided to hurry up and wrap up the ending.

awww, I love Fushigi Yugi. :(

Suppose your complaint is a valid one though.

I don't really like Dragon Ball Z. Pokemon, I think, just seems to be going on and on. Digimon I did like in it's first season, and perhaps into the second, when I could catch it, but it just started to get a little to... modernized and such. I quite like the Escaflowne movie, actually.

Dragon Ball Z is terrible.... :(

hmm i think that here is a bit divicult because you have also think about when and fro who hey are made. i also ahte stuff like pokemon becaus of the story and the way it�s drawn but the way it�s drawn is okay i guess because it�s jsut for littel kids. stuff like fist of the north star and dragonball z is old so there are definitly different storylines then today and a different way of drawing.
stuff like hamtaro for children i guess is better for littel kids then stuff like pokemon.

Dragonball Z is stupid 2 me.

Hamtaro the name says it all i mean who would wanna watch a show about stupid little hamsters besides little kids anyway.

and pokemon the games r pretty good the show is not that good i mean u have the same eniemes over and over it get old after awhile.

the most terrible anime of all fricken time has got to be sailor moon god its got the worst story line bad animations and it reminds me way to much of america or a country like that. just plain terrible.

Originally posted by mrmonkeyman
Dragon Ball Z.


Yeah, DBZ is definatley the worst anime ever.

Originally posted by Shiruzo
the most terrible anime of all fricken time has got to be sailor moon god its got the worst story line bad animations and it reminds me way to much of america or a country like that. just plain terrible.

Well, the Sailor Moon they show on TV is super americanized. "Bodacious hunkimiester" isn't the sort of thing that Usagi would say. I get a kick out of it though.

That said, I'm not a huge fan of the Sailor Moon anime, but I still think the manga is spectacular.

i would like to look at the different translation versions of anime around the world. sailor moon was not so bad translatord in germany i guess.

i hate bayblade....its got to be the dumest anime ive ever seen, i like yu-gi-ho and zoids....but bayblade just annoys the hell out of me....i dont know why....just does....

There are some animes which are just too....crude for my tastes.

Any anime that airs on CN (exluding AdultSwim), ABC, Fox, or WB should be burned out of America so that their creators will walk up to the firey ashes of their shows and say "Why did you this to my creation, America?"while they cry. :(

Originally posted by Ndi


Well, the Sailor Moon they show on TV is super americanized. "Bodacious hunkimiester" isn't the sort of thing that Usagi would say. I get a kick out of it though.

That said, I'm not a huge fan of the Sailor Moon anime, but I still think the manga is spectacular.

that and they removed the made the lesbians "close cousins" and made one of the bad-guys from the bad gay-couple into a girl o.O

stupid Americanizations >:

Originally posted by PlasmaTorture


that and they removed the made the lesbians "close cousins" and made one of the bad-guys from the bad gay-couple into a girl o.O

stupid Americanizations >:

Haha, I get a kick of that too.

I actually think Sailor Moon has a fairly good storyline. Too bad it was made that bad, tho.

The worst anime-series I have ever seen has to be a draw between Dragon Ball and/or Full Metal Panic. Hmm... Frankly, FMP is the worst, because Akira Toriyama's characters are quite unforgettable. (I love what he did in Chrono Trigger, probably the greatest game-cast ever.) I don't really know why, though. I guess it is because FMP had irritating music, a strange undeveloped storyline and really boring characters, from my point of view. These are only my opinions, though, so feel free to hate them.< ^.^ >

they showed sailor moon here for about a month then stopped airing it....i think it was getting bad ratings...they did the same with yu-gi-oh(though it is shown on Sky one now) and zoids.....shame.....i liked THOSE ones.....

Worst Anime i Ever seen was The Guyver coz they never finished it they got to a good part then stoped showing it but the Movies rocked

never seent hat anime...any good?(apart from not showing the end)

Worst anime..worst anime...

Oh it'd have to be Blue Gender.

Literally made me wanna gag. >_>

well.....at least im not seeing the bad ones as well as the good ones.....

i still hate bayblade......eeeeeyuck!

if got some guyver ova�s and i think they are nice, but also heared of a anime of it that is really bad :/.
i like the first seasons of Sailor Moon but later the story get somehow strange and so i don�t liek the later seasons.
what�s really sad is that they�ve showen here in germany just the first season of Ranma 1/2. i love that one ^.^
but now they bring Inu Yasha so i can life with that *smile*

*pouts* hmph! you get an anime, and if it stops, you just get another one....

here if we get an anime(we do every so often) and it stops, it just stops....no more anime for us!!

but ive been hearing a lot of Inu Yasha...looks cool....the only anime we've got at the moment is Gasaraki...and that on at 5:20am so i cant watch it...........:(

Worst anime..... erm i think yu-gi-oh.

hihihihi i don�t watch to much tv i the last time but right now there are many "stupid" anime coming.
got detectiv conen, bayblade, still pokemon, yu go oh, inu yasha, and don�t ask me what else. and sometimes in the evening they bring anime moves such as X the movie, silent M�bius etc.

we sometimes get Akira as a late night movie here....but i keep missing it......

I mean i would still watch Tv but i would forget about the dumb anime coming or whateva and watch the cool anime like outlaw star and that stuff.

we dont have any anime here...part from bayblade(gaggs), pokemon(gaggs even more) and all the baby stuff.....gasaraki and Arc the lad isnt baby stuff....they used to show tenchi muyo, DBZ on CN and MSN and NGE on sci-fi.....but now theve all moved to toonami...and i dont have it......

kihihihihihi.
yeps if i find time i watch good stuff of it that i like.
i thought NGE is good that if seen the last episodes i waited for the great "end" fight and then the storyline got more and more
about the psyche of the char. didn�t liked it in the end :/.

nah...the end was dumb and meaningless...hah! so much for a last fight! all shinji did was snap the guys head off and that was it...the last angel deafeated!....kinda boring and crappy....

yep see it the same way! but i liekd the way the angels where drawen. has anybody seen silent m�bius? never seen the last episodes, got a manga of it but then they hight the pice for that manga to about 10-12 � and i wn�t send that much money for a manga.
normaly manga cost here about 5�. what�s about your countrys?

i dont think we get it here.....i we probebly get manga...but ive never seen any.......

the worst animes are the kidish ones like hamtaro, pokemon, beyblade and other stuff like that and dbz isnt that bad of an anime you would agree after seeing every episode around 10 times and silor moon sucks

Originally posted by sephiroth9013
and dbz isnt that bad of an anime you would agree after seeing every episode around 10 times

Punctuation. Learn it.

Aside from that, if you can actually watch every episode of dbz ten times, you're already a hopeless fanboy. I hated it once. Why should I even consider subjecting myself to it again?

i like dbz it�s "oldschool" and the story isn�t to bad and i like VEGETA and VEGETTO! ^.^. the way it�s drawen is a stil for it self, but the think is, that in dbz the fights are important so that�s the main point in that anime/manga.
but i would never see the episodes in tv because somehow there they aren�t act so good as if you see them on video.

Originally posted by Masaiju
i like dbz it�s "oldschool"

I'd hardly call dbz oldschool. Oldschool would be way back in the days long before computer animation when colors were less glossy and mechanical designs had sharper lines.

yeah you�re right like always i just think dbz is a famous anime/manga and also "old" and somehow a statussymbol.
many people say it�s stupid or anything but iliek the idea of it, okay the way it�s drawen is odd but it�s made for the folk that like that way of drawing and the mainpoint of that anime/manga are the fights and the "extrem mannish" characters.

i liked DBZ...it was okay at first...but as it went on and Goku was fighting with that green guy each episode was just bangs and crashes and Goku and that guy going, 'AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!' everytime they moved.....

good anime.....like the characters....but they could have put more in the episodes.......haha i liked chi chi!

i also liked that fact that they had tails.....or was that just the little one?

where i'm at we have a lot of anime so u can really have a wide selection, sailor moon REALLY sucked, monster rancher had potential if only scarier monsters older people like 18, a little romance and i think it would have hit off........ DBZ isn't that bad but how high can goku go he needs a limit that's the only thing that bothers me is how goku can go to EVERY level...... Case Closed is good it also has potential jus needs more blood more romance it would be good also Beyblade is the absolute DUMBEST how u gonna have monsters in spinnin tops besides there was to much talkin.......Yu-gi-oh they talk to much, they need to shut the hell up bout friendship:notgood:

dragon ball z is what i'd call a anime classic. it's good and was amazing at the time, but it's fading away.

Dragonball Z was always sub-par in terms of its animation, even the movies. It had almost no story and was fatally formulaic. The dialogue was trite, without an ounce of originality.

The only people who could possibly regard it as a classic are the delusional testosterone-drunk fanboys who had never seen any anime before it, so consequently think the genre is all about yelling and ludicrously big explosions.

so what would be a good anime?

There's lots of threads here you can read to find out what's good and what's not. There's way too many good shows/movies for me to even start listing them.

Now if you narrowed it down to what genres you liked, then...

i watched Gasaraki and Ark the lad this morning....they were cool! liked arc the lad.....they were looking for a girl named liza....and she has the power of the spirits or something......

Gasaraki was cool too...though...it confused me alittle.....it was about a guy and a girl that controlled these big robot/god things...i cand recall what they were called, but the 2 people were called 'Kai's'....all they did was stare into everything......

but cool anyways!

Originally posted by Kill Bill
Gasaraki was cool too...though...it confused me alittle.....it was about a guy and a girl that controlled these big robot/god things...i cand recall what they were called, but the 2 people were called 'Kai's'....all they did was stare into everything......

Gasakari is a bit like Lain in that you have to pay a lot of attention and watch every episode if you really want things to make sense.

DBZ is somewhat entertaining, but calling it classic is a bit ridiculous. It's basically responsible for making anime as popular as it is over here, and I give it credit for that, but it's got nothing to offer story, character, or animation wise.

And how is an anime from the 90's old school?

well ive only seen it that once....and i probebly wont see it again....so no worries eh?

DBZ didnt make anime popular over here......and if it did, it just brought in all the gay stuff like pokemon and digimon and bayblade(gaggs)....man i hate those things!

dbz is older.... -.- who cares anyway all of us got some anime he likes and some he hates so why talking about it. prak nice that you don�t like it but the way you said that was so finaly.
if you ask me many of the good anime are "older once" because they where somehow unique.
i just hate that anime that trying to make littel kids dump and without a sake, so they buy a lot of stupid and expensiv toys!!

If you like it, then good for you. But my point still stands that it is sub-par and will only appeal to a certain fanbase.

does anyone here like cowboy Bebop i like it it's a good anime, i especially like ed she is so funny....

Lots of people like Cowboy Bebop, but this is a thread about bad anime, not good anime. Unless you're saying that it's garbage and planning to call anyone that likes it a moron. In which case, it's almost okay.

This one is easy.
For me:
1.Yu yu Hakasho
2.Beyblade
3.Tenchi Muyo
4.Sailor Moon
5.Astro Boy

Gotta agree- beyblade is the worst anime ever
.
....
...... no wait mebbe Digimon even as a kid it annoyed the hell out of me.

BEYBLADE!!!! LET IT RIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


.....wtf were they thinking?!?!?

Originally posted by Besaid_Aurochs
BEYBLADE!!!! LET IT RIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


.....wtf were they thinking?!?!?

hahaah i agree X.X when i first heard it on a comercial i wa like, what the hell? o.o like i meen seriously what kinda catch phrase is that >.>()

neways i hat e that one and sailor moon.. i meen okay lets do a scary dance and change into skimpy skirts and fight in high heels V.V o and also why do they need to have lipstick/lipgloss on to fight an evil monster thing o.o;; haha i was watching it resently and i wa slike wtf? why?!

lol hmm what another one i dont like... well i do like Evangelion but the ending on the series was like o.o;; alrighty then but then i watche dthe movie (end of eva) and i wa like ok ok! o.o i still dont get it V.V confused me ^^

Originally posted by kitty-neko002


hahaah i agree X.X when i first heard it on a comercial i wa like, what the hell? o.o like i meen seriously what kinda catch phrase is that >.>()

neways i hat e that one and sailor moon.. i meen okay lets do a scary dance and change into skimpy skirts and fight in high heels V.V o and also why do they need to have lipstick/lipgloss on to fight an evil monster thing o.o;; haha i was watching it resently and i wa slike wtf? why?!

lol hmm what another one i dont like... well i do like Evangelion but the ending on the series was like o.o;; alrighty then but then i watche dthe movie (end of eva) and i wa like ok ok! o.o i still dont get it V.V confused me ^^



Proofread!

look i'm gonna say this once only once I HATE BEYBLADE it's only a trick to make kids buy beyblade stuff but as for Digimon i liked the first season but then it was you know (put the worst words you can think about) now over to DBZ i live over in Denmark thats in europe and there we got the same anime as you but NO GORE!! We had the manga before the anime came out and that was bad ASS cool and nude scenes;) so overall with dbz the manga is way better

theres this final fantasy anime now and i bought a dvd to cheack it out. note: DON'T BUY IT! IT SUCKS BIG TIME! it's too quiet.

bayblade stinks
yugioh so so


i also watch a american anime call groove sqaud. a cheerleading super-hero transforming anime? oh come on!

What is it called?

final fantasy:unlimted.....oy but dont buy it....*snore*

Nah, there are threads about FF Unlimted, check them out for more detailed, more helpful information, Cyan. :)
There are people who love the show very much... others hate it. But the "It's too quiet" is a new complaint, to me...

Personally, I think 'Ghost in the Shell' was a yawn fest.

Originally posted by Raidenex
Personally, I think 'Ghost in the Shell' was a yawn fest.
Ah, someone who shares my impression. =D I still believe that it would be unfair of me to judge GitS, after all it entirely isn't my sort of anime, and I gave up reading the manga after a couple of pages, because the thing didn't give me anything at all...
So I cannot really remember what part of my indifference and yawniness came from the fact that I didn't like story/setting/world/genre, or from the bad dub, or from the way it was presented...

Some scenes looked really cool though.




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The only Shirow work I've liked is Appleseed, and I'm definitely excluding the old cartoon from that comment.

I liked Ghost in the Shell. Then again, I've never seen it dubbed. I heard that was really lame.

A really lame one I saw recently was Miami Guns.

The dub was fine. Nothing that should ruin someone's viewing.

I wasn't too empressed with the anime Lupin. It looked more like American cartoons than anime(about 80% of it). I didn't like the animation.

Dubbed Lupin is pretty americanized, so that could have given you that vibe.

I like the Lupin manga myself.

Originally posted by Tifa Rinoa
I wasn't too empressed with the anime Lupin. It looked more like American cartoons than anime(about 80% of it). I didn't like the animation.

I think you're probably just not used to the look of some older japanese cartoons.

Originally posted by rezo


I think you're probably just not used to the look of some older japanese cartoons.

I've seen older animes and not all of them look like that.

I know it has to have been said by now in this thread, but I can't be arsed to read it all.

Any anime with the words "Dragon" and "Ball" in the title.

*Ahem*

I mean, too much incessant yelling and stuff. Plus boring and way too repetitive.

Next to that, though, I'd have to say... Gundam Wing.

*prepares for the onslaught of disagreement on that last one*

Oh, wait, Nymph isn't a member here, anymore. I'm safe. XD

Originally posted by Tifa Rinoa


I've seen older animes and not all of them look like that.

That's right. Most series tend to have unique styles. =|




Next to that, though, I'd have to say... Gundam Wing.

Yeah, that was unbearable.

I like Dragon Ball though... I don't like how the cartoon was managed and think the comic ran several years too long(the creator wanted to stop and the higher ups said "NO"), but I like it.

I prefer Macross to Gundam series, myself.

Also, would the old Voltron cartoon be considered anime? Reason I ask is because my memory of it seems like old style anime, like Ronin Warriors or something. Voltron doing things that you typically didn't see in American cartoons, like cutting enemies in half and shit.

Originally posted by Odin
I know it has to have been said by now in this thread, but I can't be arsed to read it all.

Any anime with the words "Dragon" and "Ball" in the title.

*Ahem*

I mean, too much incessant yelling and stuff. Plus boring and way too repetitive.

Next to that, though, I'd have to say... Gundam Wing.

*prepares for the onslaught of disagreement on that last one*

Oh, wait, Nymph isn't a member here, anymore. I'm safe. XD

That was a low blow odin lol
but I would have to agree. Most of the gundam wings series are basically the same story...just with different cast, I would say different place but that's not always the case, and different gundams....it's a bit of nothingness to me, thus the reason I traded "endless waltz" for some prime TRANSFORMERS!!!!

Originally posted by Odin
I prefer Macross to Gundam series, myself.

Also, would the old Voltron cartoon be considered anime? Reason I ask is because my memory of it seems like old style anime, like Ronin Warriors or something. Voltron doing things that you typically didn't see in American cartoons, like cutting enemies in half and shit.

Yeah, Voltron was an anime. It was originally called "Go Lion". (Go=5... though maybe they intended for it to have a double meaning)

And Gundam Wing and a lot of the other Gundam series that were shown out here were just "alternate reality!" cash-in follow ups to the excellent original series. =\

Originally posted by rezo


That's right. Most series tend to have unique styles. =|

Some of the older animes I liked myself were Robotech/Macross and Project A-ko. Or Iczer One.

Pokemon was the most Americanized animes I remember. Damn them Americanizations! That's what made me hate Pokemon.

Originally posted by Tifa Rinoa


Some of the older animes I liked myself were Robotech/Macross and Project A-ko. Or Iczer One.

Pokemon was the most Americanized animes I remember. Damn them Americanizations! That's what made me hate Pokemon.

When I said older, I meant shows that came out around a decade or so before macross, around the early seventies. Like Lupin did.

Originally posted by rezo


When I said older, I meant shows that came out around a decade or so before macross, around the early seventies. Like Lupin did.

Such as a 70's right? Well, seeing some pictures of Astroy Boy(50's I think) does look really good for old anime. But I'm sure all cartoons looked like that back then. That looks real cool. No you are right, I haven't seen any anime earlier than the 80's. Might be fun to try being a dedicated otaku as myself ;). I don't know much anime in 70's, but there's this one anime I keep forgeting the name of where all the characters are dressed like piolits(how do you spell that again?) and there capes are like birds. I keep forgeting the name of it, but it looks cool!

You're thinking of Gatchaman.

Originally posted by rezo
You're thinking of Gatchaman.

I think that's the name. Thanks!

Sorry, back on topic.

Originally posted by Tifa Rinoa
Some of the older animes I liked myself were Robotech/Macross and Project A-ko. Or Iczer One.

You actually saw Iczer-One? Wow. I was beginning to think I was the only person in North America who knew about that one. It's hard as hell to find.

Originally posted by rezo


When I said older, I meant shows that came out around a decade or so before macross, around the early seventies. Like Lupin did.

I thought the original MS Gundam series came out in the mid 70's, and that Macross was older than that, though. Or did I just get them backwards or something?

Original Gundam came out in the late 70s(78 or 79, I've forgotten), and I think Macross came out a few years later, in 82. I know Gundam came first though.

Originally posted by Prak


You actually saw Iczer-One? Wow. I was beginning to think I was the only person in North America who knew about that one. It's hard as hell to find.

Yeah, I always rented it from Blockbuster back in middle school! I watched it over and over again! I thought I was the only person who knew about it too in America!

I knew about it! I used to pass right by it all the time in video stores, or while browsing catalogues, or picking films from a friends collection...

Sword for Truth!_!

and, like, Ninja Scroll(s?) was pretty dire.

all i can say that the most shit load anime is MONSTER RANCHER that anime is a bad copy of POKEMON and DIGIMON

The Macross series and Macross Plus. Those series are just rip offs of the Gundam series with similar story lines.

I wouldn't say yugioh is the worst anime but it's like a dick war 'Kaiba "my blues eyes is now 100 points stronger than yours"'

Originally posted by Elvin Boy
I wouldn't say yugioh is the worst anime but it's like a dick war 'Kaiba "my blues eyes is now 100 points stronger than yours"'

I never liked Kaiba either. He always thought he was better than everyone because he was rich. I don't like that.

Kaiba is okay when hes not a jerk, but he does have a bit of an upsession with yugi ;)....bad joke -_-

Originally posted by Keiko
I'm going with.... Hamtaro! I couldn't stand that show! Everytime one of those hamsters showed up on my TV screen I just wanted to stab myself with a fork.

"Hamtaro is nothing more then sexually based crap made by some demented pervert with a disgusting fetish for hamsters" ~ Me when the show first came on CN.


EDIT:
Originally posted by shinobiyuffie
The Macross series and Macross Plus. Those series are just rip offs of the Gundam series with similar story lines.

That is pretty...well...incorrect on a few levels. You can say its a terrible show and I'll respect it because its your own opinion, but the fact that your statement was based off the assumption that they were rip offs of Gundam...well...Robotech came out about the same time as Gundam did it not? So how, per se, did they rip off Gundam? Also, I've seen a few of the Gundam serieses and Robotech and Macross plus, and short of them having mechs in both and your basic anime simularities such as person with an unreal hair color, there really aren't THAT many things that could even be considered close to the same to hint at any sort of "ripping off" took place.

Polio, Gundam first appeared on tv in 1978. Macross originally aired in 1982, so Gundam was definitely first. However, I don't regard it as a Gundam ripoff by any means. GenericYuffiePerson is probably just a serious Gundam fan who regards every other mecha anime as a copy.

Also, I tend to disregard Robotech (except in its historical significance) because it's just a jumbled mishmash of three different shows. I would prefer to acknowledge those shows individually.

My brother always like to argue that those 3 series that were used in robotech are the "real series" and such =\

I never got into Robotech or Macross much beyond what I saw when I was younger.Macross Plus through me off with the music video battle at which point I ran around asking everyone that remembered if the cartoon actually had that sort of thing in it. My brother did get a handheld macross game from japan in 85 though and that thing was awesome. He never let me play it though =\ It crapped all over the LCD Ninja Turtle and Double Dragon games I got a few years later.


I never thought of it as a Gundam rip off though. On the topic of gundam and ripping off, however, Zeta Gundam stole from Heavy Metal L-Gaim: most notably the 30th bunch colony(Gundam) vs. the yaman clan(L Gaim). I think Tomino was involved with L Gaim but not with the writing of it.

Hmmm... I have a few

Sailormoon, Pokemon, Yugioh and a few more I can't remember (and I'm quite glad I can't remember).

I find them to be disgraceful to the name anime.