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Master Nabeshin
08-11-2004, 03:17 AM
I suppose if they did make a game, I'd want a game that follows the path of Cloud after VII, right up from the end of the game into the events of AC and perhaps beyond, told in a continuous flashback way, almost like the way Tidus was telling FFX for the most part of the story.

Zack_Strife77
08-11-2004, 08:31 AM
Hey people Im back sorry i havent posted here for a long time but I've had computer problems like you wouldnt believe. Well I'm back now but can anybody fill me in a little bit like anybig things unveiled or any theories burried?

Toastie!
08-11-2004, 11:59 AM
Note: The following has been stolen from random sites acroos the world wide web.

"Does Square Enix have an all-new RPG in the works? That is the notion being bandied about in many Final Fantasy forums after the Japanese publisher registered a new title with the US Patent and Trademark Office.

On July 26, Square Enix registered the title "Dawn of Souls" with the USPTO. Besides covering the usual "Computer Game Software" and "Video Game Software" categories, the trademark also extends to DVDs, books, music, comics, magazines, and a wide variety of sundries such as pen cases and mouse pads.

The extensive reach of the Dawn of Souls trademark is what led many to speculate it could be a new game--or franchise--from Square Enix. Unfortunately, speculation is all it is at this point, since Square Enix had not commented on the Dawn of Souls trademark as of press time. "

"Square Enix is working on something entitled "Dawn of Souls," according to its latest trademark application filed with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. The title was trademarked July 26 in reference to game software and numerous other potential bits of spinoff merchandise.

Exactly what this might be -- if it turns out to be anything at all -- is up in the air. Possibilities range from a new console game to a new mobile phone project to a new line of collectible figurines dispensed by toy-store gumball machines in Japan.

Those keeping track of Square Enix's various mystery trademarks may also recall that we're waiting to learn more about something called "Radiata Stories," trademarked June 30."

So basically we have nothing about this project so far.

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/mobile/bcff7.html <---Random link to BC website.

Gast
08-11-2004, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by 1_W1nged_Angel
Note: The following has been stolen from random sites acroos the world wide web.

........theif.......

ducky-chan
08-11-2004, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by Sephiroth's Brother
vincent is cool though. hey Tifa_Martial_Artist, I've added you to my buddy list for no particular reason.

Oooh....WTF I'll do that too.

Haha, but I just got a crazy idea. What if FF7 becomes so popular that they make an anime of it?!?

Gast
08-11-2004, 01:54 PM
it would be good!

Zack_Strife77
08-11-2004, 03:44 PM
I was thinking about a ff7 anime and they could do alot of stuff with it thats for sure. I wonder who would do the animation for it?

Prak
08-11-2004, 05:15 PM
To make an anime of it, the entire story would have to be rewritten. Frankly, I think it needs it because the story did have some potential, but was delivered badly in the game.

Still, fans of the game the way it is would not want that, I'm sure.

Shiori
08-11-2004, 07:07 PM
yay ff7 anime! they prolly will never do that because theres not reley anything they could do it about.i dont think anyone would wanna see the same story of ff7 i an anime.but theres still hope!:D

Dot Centaur
08-12-2004, 12:46 AM
I think this is an accesory that belongs to Cloud or Sephiroth in AC. They will be selling it as a merchandise peice.

Nanaki_Wolf
08-12-2004, 04:04 AM
That is a symbol thingy from Clouds new uniform i think

madmax9602
08-12-2004, 07:37 AM
I'm afraid they are gonna start milking the industry too, it is too soon to be making another game. They did have a final fantasy anime, but I've heard mixed reviews about it and it had nothing to do with the game.

Brein
08-12-2004, 12:37 PM
Yeah I have those anime but they are not really cool...

Gast
08-12-2004, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Prak
To make an anime of it, the entire story would have to be rewritten. Frankly, I think it needs it because the story did have some potential, but was delivered badly in the game.


you really don't like FF7 do you?

Nanaki_Wolf
08-12-2004, 03:22 PM
He is always dissing FF7 in the most ways possible

Gast
08-12-2004, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by Nanaki_Wolf
He is always dissing FF7 in the most ways possible

are you an ff7-lover?

Prak
08-12-2004, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Nanaki_Wolf
He is always dissing FF7 in the most ways possible

No, I don't do it in every way possible. I'll try cutting loose one of these days though.

But it's a solid fact that FFVII would not make a good anime unless the story was rewritten to fix its pacing. Think about how the episodes would break down. It's obvious that half of the show would be utterly boring.

Nanaki_Wolf
08-12-2004, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Sephiroth's Brother


are you an ff7-lover?

Me? Yes

Gast
08-12-2004, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Nanaki_Wolf
Me? Yes

that's good, check out my Game Rankings thread in General Final Fantasy!

madmax9602
08-12-2004, 06:44 PM
OK you two, break it up before we all get sick.;)

ducky-chan
08-12-2004, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Prak


No, I don't do it in every way possible. I'll try cutting loose one of these days though.

But it's a solid fact that FFVII would not make a good anime unless the story was rewritten to fix its pacing. Think about how the episodes would break down. It's obvious that half of the show would be utterly boring.

Why, how could you say that? The story itself would make an exellent anime! Just add some stuff here and there, and it would be okay. I really don't think an anime of FF10 or FF8 would do any better.

u_aint_ready
08-13-2004, 02:28 AM
o...k...having fun much? well let me take that away, any1 know what's up with the rest of Red XIII's race in AC? also, i think that a game about Vincent would be good, he's like 1 of the best characters. 'sides, the whole gaming industry is like the music industry, when you've got a hit, you wanna put out more similar stuff or stuff from the same artist, in this case game. maybe that's why they're releasing so much FFVII stuff now, the wait made you want it more.

Master Nabeshin
08-13-2004, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by 1_W1nged_Angel
the trademark also extends to DVDs, books, music, comics, magazines, and a wide variety of sundries such as pen cases and mouse pads.


Okay, now they're just getting greedy.

Brein
08-13-2004, 06:48 AM
well you dont have to buy it. its still up to you, youre choice...

Gast
08-13-2004, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by Tifa_Martial_Artist
Why, how could you say that? The story itself would make an exellent anime! Just add some stuff here and there, and it would be okay. I really don't think an anime of FF10 or FF8 would do any better.

exactly Prak, you tell us what's wrong with the story and you try and find something that isn't as bad in other Final Fantasy games. No story's perfect...

Zack_Strife77
08-13-2004, 01:54 PM
Um just wunt to say one thing prak not to b like gangin up on ya or anything but if the story wasnt all that great then how come everybody loved it over the othwer installments of the series

Gast
08-13-2004, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by Zack_Strife77
Um just wunt to say one thing prak not to b like gangin up on ya or anything but if the story wasnt all that great then how come everybody loved it over the othwer installments of the series

yeah, Zack_Strife77, why, Prak, did everyone love FF7 over all the other FF games if it was crap.

Prak
08-13-2004, 02:02 PM
*sigh*

I wanted to avoid this, but since you pressed the issue...

The climax of the game is sprung on you kind of fast. While that may be acceptable in the context of a game, good pacing for a series demands a bit more time to absorb information.

That means that some new events have to be fabricated in order to have a final episode of appropriate length without being totally boring or cramming so much in there that it becomes confusing.

All of Jenova's forms, Bizarro Sephiroth, and Safer Sephiroth would have to be completely redesigned to work in an animation format. Trying to draw the current designs would make any animator alive pull his hair out. And do you really want to see a totally redesigned version of Sephiroth?

In addition to that, a lot of the story would have to be hacked out, such as anything having to do with Gold Saucer, which would totally break the tone of the show. Dyne would also be out of place because of the length of his backstory. However, without him, Barret's story falls out of focus.

Then there's the issue of character development. It would be pretty lame if the characters didn't develop a bit further than they did in the game, but that might cause some fans a great deal of distress because it would show sides of their favorite characters they never imagined existed and didn't really want to see.


As for no story being perfect, that's just a cop-out to excuse the flaws in FFVII's story.

As for why so many people loved it, it was because it was something different from anything they had ever seen before. It has nostalgia value. It was the first FF game for a great many people, so that adds to the nostalgia.

A lot of people basically look at the game through the proverbial rose-colored glasses.

Gast
08-13-2004, 02:23 PM
Right, this is war!

The climax had to be brought out fast otherwise you would not know that the team is searching for Sephiroth. The brilliant story in Kalm explains this. In an anime, this could be shortened as I agree that the story takes too long to explain in the game, let alone in an anime. Some of the story could be left out, such as some of the Zack/Cloud background as half of the people who play FFVII don't seem to know what happened with them and some people never see all the secret scenes, so it is not actually explained.

In animes, there will always be things that would have to be redesigned to work in an animation format. The reason that Jenova's forms and sephiroth's forms would have to be redesigned is because they are complex and the graphics designers at squaresoft put in a lot of effort designing them. However they would be able to be altered to fit anime format. I wouldn't see a totally redesigned version of Sephiroth because 1, he wouldn't have to be redesigned, and 2, only the last two boss versions of Sephiroth would be redesigned, not his actual character.

Gold Saucer would not have to be ruled out because 1, you have to go there in the game and they could shorten the prison scene, but leave in the part about Barret explaining about Dyne. Then he would have a sufficient background. You only hear about Dyne in the game then, and he dies about 10 minutes later, so his background could be altered, to give him a bigger part in an anime FFVII. That way, Barret would not fall out focus.

I have to go now, so I will resolve this later....

Prak
08-13-2004, 03:02 PM
This is war? You just conceded, albeit conditionally, to most of my arguments. You acknowledged that heavy changes would be needed to adapt it to an anime.

And I never once said that Sephiroth's basic design would have to be changed. Just his transformations. Don't take things out of context.

I will concede that Gold Saucer could be left in, but only if the Happyland atmosphere was thrown out in favor of keeping the mood darkened. But as for Chocobo racing, it would have to go, except for maybe seeing races in the background. The prison thing could be skipped altogether.

ducky-chan
08-13-2004, 04:09 PM
Okay, I'll add some of my two cents here:

Most RPG's are like the exact opposite of an anime. Take for instance, the RPG's that have anime cutscenes. Of course if you've seen the show and you play it's game counter part it's going to be different.

But you've got to remember that RPG's and anime are like the same thing, because allot of the designs in RPG's come from animes.

Zack_Strife77
08-13-2004, 05:58 PM
Well this has gotten rather long. I understand there would need to bee re workings of things. But minor changes wouldnt be bad. I mean if they did them right. The whole concept behind doin an anime from a game sounds good but sometimes just wouldnt work. As for finaly fantasy goes putting it into an anime does sound good but with the revisions youve mentioned it might b more work then they would want to put into it. But as you can see while final fantasy has spun off inot a motion picture an an anime they wheren't like the games. Some ppl i know who love the games didnt like the anime or movie. I didnt like the movie at first until i realized that it wasnt based on any particular game much like the anime version of final fantasy. Anywho the whole thing on makeing a Final Fantasy 7 anime would be neat but mayb it could be something different then trying to follow the games story. like mayb something that shows the story before ff7. And show ya how each character developed into what they where in ff7 now these are just some thoughts of mine and sry the post is so long. But trying to base an anime streight from the ff games would make it difficult like you said there would have to be revisions to the story could make it to much in some parts and not enough in other. As for my final thoughts i think a ff7 anime would b awsome if they followed the story they would need to revise it but it could b done but it might come out being harder to get or just make the story seem worse. So theres my bag of change for ya.

Aerisfreak91
08-13-2004, 10:54 PM
Sry to bring this up but in AC, does Cloud still luv Aeris or when he sees Tifa hurt in the church he has that look on his face that he likes her. But i read officially that cloud loves aeris and is still mourning and Tifa understands Cloud loves Aeris so she's backing off.

Please clariffy this plz.

Nanaki_Wolf
08-13-2004, 11:05 PM
LOL peoples this is suppost to be a AC thread not FF7 anime thread go make your own one to argue this out. Thank you Aeris freak for going back on subject! As for your question I don't know for sure but I think Cloud still loves Aeris. That scene in the church i think is when one of the silver haired guys tryed to get marlene (who was in the church with Tifa) and Tifa tried to defend her, failed and got seriously hurt. But that's just what iv'e heard so I don't know if it's true or not.

Zack_Strife77
08-14-2004, 02:15 AM
Sry for gettin off topic bout the anime. About Cloud and Tifa and all he cared about both of them while he may still be mounring for aeris he could still have feelings towards tifa couldnt he.

fascist socialist
08-14-2004, 01:44 PM
gonna close this one down, and start a new one shortly. also gonna try and get a basic ff7ac faq up in the thread itself, to cut down on redundant posts.