ziggypop
06-25-2004, 12:01 AM
This is a thread where we can pit the ever-so popular Soul Caliber II against the Tekken series, namely the most recent, Tekken 4, and what I consider to be the best of the series, Tekken Tag Tournament. So which is it?

Hogan
06-25-2004, 12:30 AM
Tekken Tag was pretty good but SC kicks it's ass.

I was just playing the orginal Tekken a couple of days ago awesome :D

Dr. Lucien Sanchez
06-25-2004, 07:08 AM
Soul Calibur 2 is for people who want to see good fast action without actually knowing any of the moves, but still avery good game.

Tekken 4 is for the more determined people that wanna play the game with some skill.


Soul Calibur 2, is nice and all, but I'm gonan go for Tekken 4 on this one, its got a nice storlyine for a fighting game, but also takes some skill so you won't loose to your friends even when its your friends first turn on it.

Loki
06-25-2004, 10:12 AM
I've never liked the Tekken series... always thought that the moves were too stiff, you didn't really have fluid control over the characters.

So I have to say Soul Calibur... mainly for the 8 way run and the fluid combos.

hb smokey
06-25-2004, 11:08 AM
I would have to say Soul Calibar II, mainly the GCN version. It's a no-brainer why that version sold more than PS2 and X-Box.

Anyways, I really like the story mode. There are so many levels and missions to complete, that you actually can't beat the game in one day. Unless you decide to play for 24 hours.

I also liked being able to purchase weapons, movie-clips of characters, etc.

And the level designs were pretty cool too.

Alpott
06-25-2004, 11:31 AM
Soul Calibur cause of all the gurlies ;)

Marceline
06-25-2004, 11:37 AM
The only Tekken that I really enjoyed was Tekken Tag. =/

Soul Cal is easier for a button masher to just pick up and play, yes, but they're not going to fare very well against someone who's good with their character.

And Ivy and Voldo aren't especially wonderful until you master them.

So yes, Soul Cal.

Bahamut ZERO
06-25-2004, 12:16 PM
James and I wasted a good 30 hours of our existence in team battle mode of Soul Calibur 2.

James and I never touched Tekken 4's multi player mode.

Ergo, Soul Calibur 2 wins for the fun factor in multiplayer mode. And for me inventing new swearwords when James whipped me.

KREAYSHAWN
06-25-2004, 08:22 PM
TTT is great for multiplayer. Plus it requires skill and not just button bashing. Which means I can easily defeat my rubbish friends with stlye. And playing against someone who's good is far more challening and enjoyable than half-knowing moves and hitting the pad a la SCII.

leo
07-05-2004, 08:17 PM
teken four and teken three are best of the fitghing games ,wy ?cuz you need to move your fingers fast and be quiet inteligend to know when to hit and when to deffen, but the best of that game are the counter attacks like the ones that jin kazama does or the most mortal attacks are king's and because every fitghing style in the word are in that game for example i'm traning capoera(brazilian fitghing style) i've get somehelp from that game XD but that's not the deal the deal is that there's no other game like it and if you want to find any fitghing style that you'll like t learn i may sugest you to first play tken 3 and 4 XD and i'm a master on it too XD

hb smokey
07-05-2004, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by leo
<B> you need to be quiet inteligend </B>

sexpot

Meph
07-05-2004, 08:31 PM
I prefer Soul Caliber

Because its fun. Simple as that.

rezo
07-05-2004, 09:07 PM
Soul Caliber is better and in any moderately decent fighting game you won't be able to win by button mashing. If you can, the people you're playing just don't know what they're doing. The only sort of game where that sort of thing is kind of effective is something like MvC 2 where a decent strategy seems to be just dumping special moves over and over again to get tick damage.

Toastie!
07-05-2004, 09:40 PM
....What about DoA???? I think that deserves a mention as well.

Raidenex
07-05-2004, 10:11 PM
I haven't enjoyed a fighter since Mortal Kombat 3 :(

TK
07-05-2004, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by rezo
Soul Caliber is better and in any moderately decent fighting game you won't be able to win by button mashing. If you can, the people you're playing just don't know what they're doing. The only sort of game where that sort of thing is kind of effective is something like MvC 2 where a decent strategy seems to be just dumping special moves over and over again to get tick damage.

Oh. When did your opinion about Soul Calibur change?

Anyway, what he said. SC is way better than Tekken, and it's definitely not a button masher game. Just being decent at performing guard impacts pretty much makes any attempts at button mashing totally useless.

rezo
07-05-2004, 11:23 PM
It didn't change. Well, much, I assume =\... I don't remember what it was,really. I never got into it, but I don't think I ever hated it as much as I did Tekken. I beat some of my friends by mashing in the past, but I think that had to do with them sucking.

Yeah, I used to beat them up using generic fighting game tactics and then use that as leverage to get them to switch games.

The Ricky
07-06-2004, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by 1_W1nged_Angel
....What about DoA???? I think that deserves a mention as well.

DoA!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anyway...... I like both equally, Tekken 4 requires more skill and percision. Soul Calibur 2 basically requires you to mash buttons untill your fingers bleed.

Since I own both games it's a tie for me.

TK
07-06-2004, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by rezo
It didn't change. Well, much, I assume =\... I don't remember what it was,really. I never got into it, but I don't think I ever hated it as much as I did Tekken. I beat some of my friends by mashing in the past, but I think that had to do with them sucking.

Yeah, I used to beat them up using generic fighting game tactics and then use that as leverage to get them to switch games.

I thought I remembered you really disliking it, but I guess I'm just crazy! Nevermind then!

The Joker
07-10-2004, 03:15 AM
I never found to Tekken to be a button masher, unless you were trying break dancer Eddie.

I think this is no contest, Soul Calibur 2 is a highly more ambitious and well executed game, with so many moves, deeper innovations, and sophistication to it.

leo
07-10-2004, 01:07 PM
if you are gonna play a game is to have some fun ,isn't it? well will you have fun with soul caliber??ii don't think so ,why/ because how can i say this?like hmmmmmm for example if you are fitghing in one place place that has a cliff you just kick your oponent and let him/her fell down the clif and there are many trap like that one but teken three you do really do enjoin that game because you gotta play make moves do fast movements and the combos how about it have anyboddy seen teken combos fr me are the best combos (after mortal combat) and soul caliber the only thing that is good about that game is that you can make more weapons or buy i do not really know but is that you can get more weapons for your characters sop i think is better the teken series XD that's my opinion XD

Marceline
07-10-2004, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Shintaro Amano
Anyway...... I like both equally, Tekken 4 requires more skill and percision. Soul Calibur 2 basically requires you to mash buttons untill your fingers bleed.

Since I own both games it's a tie for me.

There's no way you can play Soul Cal well by button mashing.

You'd never be able to beat anyone who knew what they were doing.

hb smokey
07-10-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Ndi
<B>There's no way you can play Soul Cal well by button mashing.</B>

Yeah, I tried button mashing on Soul Calibur, and it was pretty much impossible. You actually have to sit there and think quickly about what moves you and your opponent are going to do next. I hate any fighter game where it is easier to win when you start button mashing, than actually planning out your moves ahead of time.

mrmonkeyman
07-10-2004, 06:51 PM
Calibur.
CALIBUR.
Is it too much to actually spell properly?

leo
07-11-2004, 02:06 PM
any way teken series are the best for me ,i don't know about you i don't care either XD

ff7 forever
07-31-2004, 01:59 AM
yeah i'd have to say that tekken series is better mainly cause i've never played soul calibur

TK
07-31-2004, 04:25 AM
Originally posted by ff7 forever
yeah i'd have to say that tekken series is better mainly cause i've never played soul calibur

Well, that's some solid logic for you.

hb smokey
07-31-2004, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by ff7 forever
<B>yeah i'd have to say that tekken series is better mainly cause i've never played soul calibur</B>

Well, that is pretty biased. You can't say that you like one game over the other, simply because you haven't been able to play both of them. So, saying that you think Tekken is better simply because you haven't played SC is wrong.

Neo Xzhan
07-31-2004, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Ndi
And Ivy and Voldo aren't especially wonderful until you master them.

True Ivy is one of my favorite characters. She was hard to control for the first time but I took alot of practice and the different moves/combos can be dished out nicely by me now. My favorite would have to be Nightmare, master the different stance and the moves that come with him and he's not as slow as you thought he was.

Marceline
07-31-2004, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Neo Xzhan


True Ivy is one of my favorite characters. She was hard to control for the first time but I took alot of practice and the different moves/combos can be dished out nicely by me now. My favorite would have to be Nightmare, master the different stance and the moves that come with him and he's not as slow as you thought he was.

I've actually seen a person who was really good with Nightmare play him once- I was shocked. Usually, when I play against Nightmare, I own him, but it's true- when someone's mastered him, he's really not that slow at all. Beating that person was quite a challenge.

Prak
07-31-2004, 06:30 PM
The most vicious character I know of in Soul Calibur 2 was Taki. I played against a guy once who never touched the ground after the fight started and moved so fast I couldn't even figure out where an attack was coming from until two seconds after I had been clobbered by it.

Still, even though I get stomped by a lot of people, I'm never grudging about it... unless I lose to a Maxi player. Cheapest character ever.

Wattson
07-31-2004, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Prak
Still, even though I get stomped by a lot of people, I'm never grudging about it... unless I lose to a Maxi player. Cheapest character ever.

What's so cheap about Maxi?

He's laregly considered one of the worst characters in the game. :confused:

I'm a Taki and Nightmare fan myself, which is odd 'cause they're complete opposites.

I've gotten really good and fluent a Nightmare, like, it's pretty to watch him attack and change stances and stuff :P. I also really like his move "Stomping" (d dr r k k k k) where he does just that.
I also learned a bit of Necrid.. =\

Marceline
07-31-2004, 10:35 PM
I think Raphel is the cheapest character, personally, just cause he's so easy to get a ring out with.

Still, he's fun to play as.

Talim is my favorite- I play as her almost exclusively. I really want to master Voldo though.

mr. Cheese
08-01-2004, 12:15 AM
Voldo has 2 be the best character he just so funny lookin

Neo Xzhan
08-01-2004, 12:37 AM
I don't really like Necrid because he doesn't really have his own style. Talim is okay, she's somewhere in the middle section were I to make a list from favorite to worst.

About Maxi being cheap, I don't raelly know. You can rack up a nice row of combos but the problem is his really short range, so if you can stay out of his range (like I can with Ivy, my favorite) he's pretty much crap. ;-)

Marceline
08-01-2004, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by Neo Xzhan
I don't really like Necrid because he doesn't really have his own style. Talim is okay, she's somewhere in the middle section were I to make a list from favorite to worst.

What I like best about Talim isn't even how good she is or anything like that- it's that she fits perfectly into my playing style. I can pull off exactly the kinds of things I want to with her.

This is turning into more of a General Soul Calibur 2 Discussion thread then a Soul Cal versus Tekken thread.

TK
08-01-2004, 06:31 AM
I don't profess to be particularly good at Soul Calibur -- in fact I'm really pretty bad at it -- but for the record, Nightmare is my best character, and I easily crush everyone who I regularly play against when I use him.

Turk
08-01-2004, 09:33 PM
Soul Calibur is my favorite fighting game...Soul Calibur II was a major disappointment.

Marceline
08-01-2004, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Turk
Soul Calibur is my favorite fighting game...Soul Calibur II was a major disappointment.

What exactly didn't you like about it?

I'm not jumping on you or anything, I just really loved both games, so I wondered why you didn't.

ff7 forever
08-02-2004, 12:02 AM
yeah i am not one to talk but i like tekken so i thought might as well post something and sorry i really can't say tekken is better

Loki
08-02-2004, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Ndi


What I like best about Talim isn't even how good she is or anything like that- it's that she fits perfectly into my playing style. I can pull off exactly the kinds of things I want to with her.


Talim is the best to me for ring outs. I love the BBK combo followed by continuous flips to just ride the opponent off the edge.

My favorite character is Seung Mina however, though I am beginning to like Raphael, Cerberus, and Voldo more.

Dr. Lucien Sanchez
08-02-2004, 07:06 PM
To join in the SC2 talk, my favourite character is probably Mitsurugi, hes very fast, very powerful and well in the right hands, he can kick anyones arse.

ff7 forever
08-02-2004, 09:31 PM
just a question what's the fighting like in soul calibur? never played it so i'm wondering plus all of you seem to like it

Marceline
08-02-2004, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by ff7 forever
just a question what's the fighting like in soul calibur? never played it so i'm wondering plus all of you seem to like it

It's weapon based, and it's spectacular.

There's absolutely no reason not to get this game. It's on every console, and it's been out long enough that you can probably get it for very cheap.

hb smokey
08-03-2004, 12:05 AM
And I would recommend purchasing the GCN version of the game, if in fact you have that system. Link makes Nintendo's version that much better, compared to Sony's and Microsofts.

Marceline
08-03-2004, 12:16 AM
Link is the best extra character, in my opinion, but I prefer the controls on the PS2 version.

I've played all three versions though, plus I play it in the arcade all the time.

hb smokey
08-03-2004, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Ndi
<B>Link is the best extra character, in my opinion, but I prefer the controls on the PS2 version.</B>
Yeah, I really don't think too highly of the Gamecube controller when it comes to Soul Calibur II. But, RPG's I enjoy with it.

ff7 forever
08-03-2004, 01:27 AM
thanks ndi and smokey!! ndi you seem to know alot of games and stuff seeing as whenever i ask something you're first to answer me so thanks!!

hb smokey
08-03-2004, 03:08 AM
Nah, Ndi doesn't know crap about video games. She is like the biggest loser here, don't you know that?

Marceline
08-03-2004, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by Smokey
Nah, Ndi doesn't know crap about video games. She is like the biggest loser here, don't you know that?

Oh yeah?

Is your refrigerator running?

Because if it is, I bet it runs like you.

VERY HOMOSEXUALLY.



ff7forever, games are just something I spend a lot of my time and money on, so I try and know what I can. I'm by no means an expert.

ff7 forever
08-03-2004, 09:46 PM
whoa running big on insults i see well calm down man ndi is good. he or she gave me alot of info on alot of games so i consider ndi to know games

Jewels
08-04-2004, 12:33 AM
I found it far easier beating Tekken on its hardest mode than Soul Calibur II.

SC2 is easier to pick up and play. You don't need to know any of the moves and you can simply button bash and you'll win.... only on the easier modes.

What makes SC2 better is that it suits an expert as well as novices.

Beating someone in Tekken doesn't require more skill.

ff7 forever
08-04-2004, 12:47 AM
so sc2 that good with all these good feebacks i'm gonna go buy!!

Naphtali
08-05-2004, 03:37 AM
My vote's in for Tekken. Tekken 5 looks sooo cool. Especially Raven.

ff7 forever
08-05-2004, 10:25 PM
yeah tekken 5 looks cool what's the korean guy's name again i forget

Naphtali
08-06-2004, 12:09 AM
Do you mean Hwoarang or Baek?

ff7 forever
08-06-2004, 01:19 AM
oh yeah hworang something like that. he's awesome i like tkd and he does tkd so yeah i like him

Naphtali
08-08-2004, 11:59 PM
Isn't Baek Hwoarang's Teacher?

Cyan
08-12-2004, 11:02 PM
Yup. you're right! I found that out on the internet!
And For Now (FOR NOW) I'll go with Tekken series.

And They Should Release SC1 For XBox,GameCube,Or Ps2

heavens_final_samurai
08-12-2004, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by ff7 forever
oh yeah hworang something like that. he's awesome i like tkd and he does tkd so yeah i like him

did u know that hworang is the name ofthe red belt form in traditional tae kwon do at least at my school. but ye aif u cared \. i think that tekken is the better game because unlike most games when u see a character u can tell what type of martial arts he does it is so realistic to the real martial art. most games really aren't and they have eddy who does capoeria which is the coolest martial art there is lol.

iconoclastic pastry
08-13-2004, 05:13 AM
Super Street Fighter 2 TURBO

ziggypop
08-18-2004, 02:24 AM
By the way, how wicked is the customization and ranking system for Tekken 5?

I'm gonna love it. Here's to hoping it will come to PS2!!!

Wattson
08-18-2004, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by heavens_final_samurai
i think that tekken is the better game because unlike most games when u see a character u can tell what type of martial arts he does it is so realistic to the real martial art.

Actually, a lot of the characters in SCII do very recognizable stances from the Chinese martial art Wushu.

heavens_final_samurai
08-18-2004, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by PlasmaTorture


Actually, a lot of the characters in SCII do very recognizable stances from the Chinese martial art Wushu.


really, i dont know much about that martial art but i do like how in tekken they did tae kwon do and capoeria( hworang and eddy). especially capoeria cause ive never seen a game with capoeria in it before. who does the wushu stances in scII ?

Wattson
08-18-2004, 07:29 AM
Kilik, Yunsung, Cervantes, Seung Mina, and more probably.