I recently came to a simple conclusion that mostly everyone on FFShrine is not a gamer. The only game that most people have probably played is FF7 - X.

This really bothers me a lot actually as a lot of good game stuff is just "whatever" to this forum. I'm generally a big fan of videogaming and would like to share many great things to other people, you know, to show that if there is any passion of gaming out there in FFShrine, at least someone would acknowledge the existance of this videogame nut.

First, I would like to start off by introducing people to several good games that aren't that mainstream and probably have not even heard about it or even thought about trying... or it is famous but never really thought to be looked at as anything else. I'll go through this by genre and see what makes people tick and tock... and even talk.

The RPG world, many great games, many great things. There are two things to consider when playing an RPG. One is how fun it is and the other is how good it keeps you playing. Now, the two go hand in hand but in other ways, it doesn't. Example, Final Fantasy has good stories and most people rather play them for the story instead of gameplay. While there's nothing TOO wrong with that, you have to look at the game differently to get much more out of it.

A game that you probably wouldn't consider playing because of it's childish roots is Pokemon. Pokemon is probably one of the most deeper RPG games I've played because of it's unique system of being able to append monsters into your own group and choosing how YOU want the monster to level up. I've spent many hours playing this game, even after beating it, to raise powerful monsters and battling with many friends who have Pokemon the game. With the newer Pokemon game to feature Wireless Linking, you're bound to find another Pokemon Player on school campus or even a bus stop somewhere.

Another RPG that is quite fun is well... the Original Final Fantasy 1 and 2 games. The GBA version of Final Fantasy I and II are coming out later in the US and those who have played the originals can tell you that they are a fun experience. Right now you can pick up Final Fantasy Origins and play it on the PSone. Two great games but unlike the newer Final Fantasy games, they don't have much of a story.. but the focus on this thread is to introduce fun games.... not storybook games.

Finally, a rather fun RPG game would be Suikoden 1-2 (I've never played 3). While the game features a pretty deep story (I feel that this is the only game where I've actually enjoyed the story), the game is just fun when you have 6 guys going "KILL THE BASTARD!!!!!" Great if you can pick both games up but they are rather rare to find and expensive to get.

Now, in many aspects, I do not see a lot of fighting fans here. No one probably has ever heard of Dan Hibiki or Street Fighter 3: Third Strike... some have even made fun of the many Street Fighter 2 Upgrades when they simply don't understand what is going on.

When Street Fighter 2 originally came out, it was basically straight out "Get a good clean hit of the opponent and run". There were glitches and there was a bug.... that bug actually became a normal technique done in many fighting games. The ability to cause an animation of an attack to just stop to do another attack. Now you see Ryu and Ken doing 2 hit combos with a punch and a hadouken.

Now when Street Fighter 2 was out, they didn't expect this to happen at all... so they upgraded it to Street Fighter 2 Champion Edition and added the ability to play as bosses. There was another few good bugs and some that just made the game unbalanced because of all these new discoveries in battle after battle. Eventually, gamers will end up with Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo... or it's Japanese name "Super Street Fighter 2 X: The Grandmasters Challenge".

Now why did I mention this? Well, I would like it if people would just prejuding games and actually play and understand WHAT is going on instead of what is given to them. There are many tournaments and weekend parties with fighting games and a lot of planning and thinking goes into playing these types of games (which is probably why most people just can't handle it because it's too rough for them to just calculate these thoughts fast enough... though there is Soul Calibur... but even I can kick your ass in that).

Anyways, good fighting games... well, lets look at what is good and what is bad...

Good:
Street Fighter Series
King of Fighter Series
Tekken Series
Soul Calibur Series
Dead or Alive Series

Bad:
Mortal Kombat

Mortal Kombat just went downhill after Mortal Kombat 3... so we'll just not mention it. Give those under the Good listing a try though, in fact I'll name some good ones

Street Fighter - Street Fighter 3: Third Strike
King of Fighter - KOF98
Tekken - Tekken 4
Soul Calibur - Soul Calibur 2
Dead or Alive - Dead or Alive 3

Of course if you get your kicks in Mortal Kombat... well props to you, I just wouldn't want to call it a fighting game because it really lacks a lot of depth to be called one.

And uh... I'll add to this post later. :O

You totally forgot the Action/Adventure genre, MK.

I mean, the Legacy of Kain is just freakin' awesome in terms of storyline and graphics/music. And the battle engine is solid, too. True, there are some bugs. But they only apply if you cheat and use an ability you aren't supposed to have yet.

And then there's the simulation games (racing, aerial combat, etc.)

I mean, how could you forget about those?

Oh, that's right, you think that a "gamer" is someone that wastes insane amounts of money on games which only take a mere couple hours to master. Like the aforementioned fighting games and DDR.

Originally posted by Odin

I mean, the Legacy of Kain is just freakin' awesome in terms of storyline and graphics/music. And the battle engine is solid, too. True, there are some bugs. But they only apply if you cheat and use an ability you aren't supposed to have yet.

God you seriously need to get off the Legacy of Kain series. Blood Omen was decent, but the rest of the series is so fucking repetitive and the combat is so boring and the puzzles in Soul Reaver are just plain stupid.


And then there's the simulation games (racing, aerial combat, etc.)

I mean, how could you forget about those?

Oh, that's right, you think that a "gamer" is someone that wastes insane amounts of money on games which only take a mere couple hours to master. Like the aforementioned fighting games and DDR.

Okay, yes, lets type up every good game EVER made. That would be good. Maybe he didn't want to spend loads of time typing up something that is so long that most people will not read it anyways, and since when does DDR take a mere couple of hours to master? That is probably one of the hardest games to master that I have ever played, and takes more skill than any other game ever made.


I agree with Mogknight that there are not very many gamers here, and that most people here think they know a lot about video games, although they have never really played anything outside the Final Fantasy Clone genre.

I have to admit that outside RPGs and Fighting games, I'm not that much of a general gamer, sure I try some games now and then but when you look at my library of games, you clearly see that about 66% of it are RPGs and the rest is either Fighting, action, or Platformer.

On PSOne I have nothing but RPGs, except for MegaMan X4 to X6. It's about 20 games or so.

On PS2 I have The Bouncer, Capcom VS SNK2, Marvel VS Capcom 2, Dead or Alive 2 and DBZ Budokai to fuel my fighting genre needs, but that's less than half of my PS2 games. Another exception is Return of the King, Twisted Metal Black: Online and MegaMan X7. I also have one racing game, although I'm not a huge fan of the genre, and that is Gran Turismo 3. The rest are RPGs or Action RPGs. About another 20 games or so.

As for Cube, I have the almighty Soul Calibur II (favorite fighting game ever, second goes to Street Fighter Alpha III), The Two Towers, Mario Kart and Viewtiful Joe but that's about one half of my games, the rest are once again RPGs and Action RPGs. About ten games here.


I actually preferred Street Fighter Alpha 3 over Street Fighter 3, by the way. That is one debate that's often talked about in the Street Fighter world. One thing is sure, though , I would definitely welcome a NEW Street Figther game, either Alpha 4 or Street Figther 4. Street Fighter is so awesome.

Legacy of Kain is great for the story, though I admit the gameplay sort of slumped after Soul Reaver.

I like my gaming at a rather slower pace, hence I'm mostly into point and click, RPGs and tactical stuff. I would recommend the Monkey Island series, Broken Sword 1 & 2, and Civilization (3, I suppose). You've covered most of the RPGs up there. I'm still not enitrely sure what the point of this thread is but...

I enjoy fighting games like Tekken and SC in groups, which leads to my playing it mrore by myself in order to give my friends a good ass kicking. ;(

Maybe he didn't want to spend loads of time typing up something that is so long that most people will not read it anyways,

Um, the title of the thread pretty much tells you to expect a lot of reading, Loki. So the argument there is a bit pointless of you to make.


I agree with Mogknight that there are not very many gamers here, and that most people here think they know a lot about video games, although they have never really played anything outside the Final Fantasy Clone genre.

Well, I disagree with MogKnight's premise that unless you play and talk about every single fighting game currently on the market, you aren't a gamer.

As for Legacy of Kain, it's the best game series concerning vampires and a version of vampire mythos on the market. And the battles are only repetitive to the point of annoyance if you don't make any progress and just keep running around in the same areas all the time. Plus there's the fact that you aren't required to fight everyone.

Actually, I didn't finish my post because I was struggling with sleep. ;_;

Anyways where was I...

Oh yeah, Adventure and Action games, lets start it up from there.

If there was once good Adventure game I've played recently, it's Star Fox Adventures. Granted I haven't played much of these as of late because I couldn't find anything great to sit down and play. I admit, I haven't played any of the Legacy of Kain series (mostly because it never caught on to me as much... quite honestly, I don't know why.) Game is pretty short for the most part, still a great game to play. Another is Metroid Prime (it's not a First Person Shooter... at least the basic engine of it doesn't make it much of a FPS... kinda like how Deus Ex is... nevermind).

As for generally fun games (because my brain is kinda fried from this weird noodle food....), I'll just list them out and give a brief thought of it.

Mario vs Donkey Kong, one of the greater puzzle/action games that I've played in awhile... or platformer.... whatever you want to describe it, it's just great fun and takes awhile to figure several puzzles out. It also has a lot of levels.

AND A SLIGHT PAUSE OUT OF THE ACTION...


Oh, that's right, you think that a "gamer" is someone that wastes insane amounts of money on games which only take a mere couple hours to master. Like the aforementioned fighting games and DDR.

Actually, first off, I never finished my post (so the whole fighting game thing, well that's just my stop point). Second, I don't even play DDR any more (which I would like to see you master in mere hours)... and Third, fighting games don't take mere couple hours to master, it takes days and a loooooootttt of money (or a console version of the game).

Gist of it, there's a learning curve and then there's mastering it, throwing hadoukens constantly doesn't mean you're the Ryu Master.

ANYWAYS, PAUSE IS OVER.

Shenmue was pretty fun but since it kinda flew around to another system, we kinda end up with a bit of a problem to play both games.

Mega Man Series, a huge series to play and each has their own unique gameplay which makes them fit for anyone who likes platformers in general. The Megaman Collection is coming out soon so check that out.

And with a blur of what I'm typing, I'll take a slight break. ;_;

Originally posted by MogKnight
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A game that you probably wouldn't consider playing because of it's childish roots is Pokemon. Pokemon is probably one of the most deeper RPG games I've played because of it's unique system of being able to append monsters into your own group and choosing how YOU want the monster to level up. I've spent many hours playing this game, even after beating it, to raise powerful monsters and battling with many friends who have Pokemon the game. With the newer Pokemon game to feature Wireless Linking, you're bound to find another Pokemon Player on school campus or even a bus stop somewhere.


Pokemon is one of the most underrated games of all time, in my opinion. It rocks. I actually get cravings for Pokemon every so often, and take it everywhere with me- I actually coordinated my purse with my GBSP for things like that. XD

I also agree that there aren't very many gamers here- but unfortunately, all those non-gamers who really need to be exposed to all this cool stuff ignore this forum. =/

Oh, and thanks for giving props to the DOA series- I adore all the DOA games, but people tend to give me shit about that. :(

I used to be a pretty big gamer. Lately...I don't know, I just haven't been interested in any game. I mean, Gitaroo Man is the only game I have been addicted to for any length of time this year. I'm thinking playing online might get me out of this slump, and it is a slump. I have loads of brilliant games, PoP, ICO, FFX-2, Frequency, Beyond Good and Evil, etc. I find myself sometimes( a lot of the time) just sitting looking at my games, trying to motivate myself to play one. Having said that, I did just play Far Cry for 3 hours with my friends. It's such a brilliantly open-ended game, we spent about two hours on one tiny 5 minute section, just messing around.

Originally posted by Odin
Street Fighter and DDR only take a couple of hours to master! Legacy of Kain is great!

lol@Odin

Another game I got myself addicted to, both in single player terms and multiplayer, is Gran Turismo. The first three I have played, and I am eagerly awaiting the fourth one. (I'm not gonna buy the prologue.) I also enjoyed the four player mode on Project Gotham Racing 2, if only because James Paul Neil and I used to spend hours playing it rather than do productive things.

I'm not as big a gamer as I used to be, and RPGs are a staple of my diet, but I used to love the Mario series, and wish I had a few old classics like Skool Daze and Airwolf. Aaah, the Sinclair ZX81 days~

Originally posted by Odin
DDR takes only a few hours to master.

Right. Just how, with my days of playtime in that game, can pass every song on Heavy, 8x speed, Sudden, Reverse, and Shuffle, whilst freestyling and facing the audience.

Oh, wait...

I'd like to see you beat Max 300, MaxX Unlimited, The Legend of Max, bag, or any other 10-footer on heavy after your first few hours of playing. :rolleyes:


And Pokemon rocks. I need to get a new one... had to trade in my old ones to get my GBA, which I regret now.

So what you are, MK, to put it bluntly, is an elitist, who wants to look down on other people for playing games. As I just said to you, you are not a gamer, you are a scientist. You want a true "gamer" to look at a game and see everything about it, to master every single game he or she touches and become some sort of gaming demi-urge that conquers consoles.

I have a respect for most types of gamers, apart from those who just blindly buy franchises because their mind demands them to.

I hold nothing but love for the DDRers who dedicate hours to practice and can do The Legend of Maxx with their eyes closed, facing away from the screen.

I think that the office-based PES3 matches that my workmates have are a joy to behold.

You seem to lack any respect for other gamers, and that is your problem.

There is no such thing as a "true gamer." You don't complete a certain number of tasks and gain iNirvana, and God himself tells you that you're a true gamer, and can now join Edge magazine.

You flip-flop your arguments too, in a most frustrating manner. From one minute you are making decrees of the utmost certainty, and the next you are saying "o i dont care rly." You do care. Otherwise you wouldn't be so sure none of us are real gamers.

An "avid" gamer, to me, is someone who plays, and enjoys games on a regular basis, and is willing to try pretty much anything that comes his or her way - of course, you can count on the gamer not liking certain genres, so they probably wont be as willing to try them.

If they're bad at a game, fair enough. If they like a game, they play it a reasonable amount. If they really love a game, they may play it a lot - such as the afformentioned DDR player. A true gamer can still have margin for error, and can still learn about the game they love so much.

Yeah, quite a lot of people in this place play nothing but FF's and RPGs. Fair enough.

If they play a lot of different games, then they are a gamer. There is no "true" gamer, there is no mystical element that you reach. You should not have to know every mechanic in the game to be a true gamer, nor to be good at it. It's as if you want to be a nerdy stereotype just for the sake of being able to say "OOH I'M A PRO GAMER LOOK AT ME AND MY EXCELLENT KNOWLEDGE, ALLOW ME TO LOOK DOWN UPON YOU."

It sounds like you can't even enjoy games anymore. Yes, people play a lot of games and can potentially spend a lot of time getting good at a game - World of Warcraft, for example, is my chosen poison. Does this mean that I am any more of a gamer than someone else that refuses to try lots of games from the genre?

Probably not. Just means that I'm better at my job than they are.

Eh, you had no flow, and I've lost mine. Enough.

It sounds like you can't even enjoy games anymore.

I think that applies to a lot of the so-called "hardcore". It applies to me anyway. I kinda blame Edge myself. Reading it has made me even more critical of games than I already was. But I don't know why it's considered especially hardcore, it's just well-written and doesn't give Enter the Matrix 7 out of 10.

There is no definition of a true gamer. He(or she) doesn't exist. Some people just don't like certain genre. I myself hate fighting games, racers and FPS. And third-person shooters. That's four major genres I don't like, yet I would be considered to be the most hardcore of my friends. And it's not because I play the most, I don't by a long way, it's probably because I tend to...I don't know, judge them more, analyse them. Anyone can play all games blindly and enjoy themselves but it's the knowing about them that makes you a hardcore gamer.

Also, hardcore =/= true gamer. In fact, I'd be ashamed to be grouped with a lot of people who call themselves hardcore because they are so utterly stupid. I have no idea where I went with this. This whole post make no sense. Ignore it.

Now that I can actually sit down with a cup of tea, I can actually say something that wouldn't clutter up (because I'm horrible at confrontations, arguements, etc etc).

There wouldn't be a true gamer out there by definition of what is considered "true". To be a True Martial Artist, one would have to master every form, take in every form, constantly learn every form, surround their life around it. A true sports fan would be one that would be 120% dedicated to their team, always there to root for them, surround their life around it.

There probably isn't a person out there that can be defined as a "hardcore gamer in general". Not every person likes every game that comes out... but then again, "true movie watches" would have to like every movie out there... which, we all know, is bulltesticles. I haven't really sad (clearly mind you) what I set as a standard to what a "hardcore gamer" is from a "casual gamer", which are the terms people just use nowadays.

For most people, casual gamers are just people who likes videogames but really don't play too much and usually end up picking the fan favorite. Thus, casual gamers would probably never touch the deep ends of any Genre. A casual fighting fan would probably just be someone who plays only one Capcom fighting game and doesn't really train into any deep technical detail. A casual FPS fan would probably just shoot whatever they see, they die, they laugh.

As for a hardcore gamer, well, that's expanding a lot detail there. I have been addressed as "a scientist", a "programmer", a "guy that just knows stuff that isn't really a point to the actual game", etc etc. Maybe I'm just a hardcore player in my own right compared to everyone else? I wouldn't know. In the long run, it's all about what button you push. So you got that one part of "hardcore-ism", then you got the other part where people just train train and train on a game until they get it right every time, dedicating time on it etc, that's another part of "hardcore-ism", which most people understand for the most part.

So what the hell am I and why do I consider myself... or at rather, why do people just consider me as being "better" than everyone else? Well, it's hard for me to answer that without losing you SO, lets see...

I grew up playing games. Pretty much, I was surrounded by my NES. Finally the SNES, N64, PSX, PS2, Gamecube and all that whole cycle. A good bit of my life ended up at what people have considered as the Peak of Gaming, when storylines were getting deeper and gameplay didn't feel so repeated.

However, unlike the other folk that refuse to just buy next gen consoles and rather stick to their FF6 and their FF4's and what not, I wasn't too biased towards any system or even any genre. So, went on towards the N64 bit and up. Every game I bought, I sat and played it, made no prejudged thoughts, played it through and through. I'm pretty sure a shitload of people out there do this too.

With gaming nowadays, people have set standards to what is good and what is bad. I have also set my standards to what is good and what is bad, however, I'd still would play anything that you gave me. However, as I just started playing games, not really caring what other people say about it too much (I do read reviews but most of them are just for laughs and just minor indications if it's worth the money), we start running into people prejuding games. I'm not the type of person that slaps people because of what their opinions are and I'm seriously not the type of person who would "force" people to play a game they don't like. Unfortunately with today's people, there are times where I'll just start blowing up and start defending a game... but I note: I suck at arguing.

So, why did I mention my whole fucking videogame life story? Well, I haven't found one person in this whole world who can understand me, more or less, understand what I'm trying to say. Clearly, many of you think that I take gaming seriously. Well, fine, I do... but just accepting that statement kinda makes me feel like I'm the only one in the fucking world that is in that position.

Now, taking games seriously and surrounding your life on games are two different things... personally, I perfer the latter, taking games seriously would be like taking the internet seriously like "OMG I CAN'T BEAT THIS DAMN GUY, I'M GONNA TRAIN MY FUCKING FINGERS OUT AND KICK THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF HIS ASS", I don't do that. I'll take anyone in any game and, win or lose, I'm not gonna whine, I'm not gonna sit down and think why I lost, I'm still gonna practice the game (because it's fun mind you), I'm just not gonna dedicate my life to kick the living shit out of everything. I'll have that attitude of "I'm not gonna give you the win, you have to take it from me!", but that's because in any competitive thing that I do, it's more fun to see an outcome to a gloriful battle rather than accepting your lost there and then.

So babbling on for 8 more hours, trying to get some sleep, cold tea. To further go on, I haven't found one game that I had to stop playing because I couldn't stand it. It's not to say that I don't find games fun anymore, in fact there are a lot of fun games out there that I'm waiting to try. It's just that I feel that some games were robbed, robbed of what their purpose was to begin with: a fun thing to do with your spare time. There we go, that's my purpose, to spread games that have been overlooked and bring people's attention towards them.

As for not respecting other players.... well.... I am a rather rude person at times. I don't hate the French though... except maybe for Vib Ribbon coming out in the PAL region... but that would be the entire UK.

As to how I play my games... pretty much just like everyone else... though people would look at me weird when I start rolling in Legend of Zelda again and again to simply just "Go faster". Then again, I don't watch people play Single Player games so I wouldn't know if a good 90% do that just to go "faster".

On a more personal level though, I hate being called a gaming nerd, a gaming retard, a gaming whatever. I just play games the way I want to and even it gets to the point where I end up looking down on everyone else... but that's more of a personal level more than a gaming level. Then again, looking down on people because of their opinions is well... one way or another I suppose. I could easily be told "It's sad that you look down on people because their thoughts on gaming", it's true that it's sad, I guess I'm the worst fucking person in the fucking world because of that.

Maybe I'm just bitter that everyone else don't take games as thoughtful as it was before... but then again, people shouldn't need to take videogames seriously anyways. People just play games for fun and each person has their own way of having fun... and at the same time, games are meant to be fun but some people perfer other types of fun.

Are you tired of reading this? Good, I'm tired of typing this.

As to any arguments about what I consider as hardcore, I'll just simply state, a person that can appreciate any game and can understand what they are... but it does not mean they have to like the game. I hate sports games. :(

If I love the game, I'll take it seriously. If you ever saw me playing Gitaroo man, you'd see a lot of utter concentration on my face, and watch me as I move to every damn riff. I know and love the songs. I get the buzz of satisfaction from knowing what's coming and meeting it.

I think I finally understand what you're getting at. You seem to lack the capacity to genuinely dislike a game, which I can't understand, but I think we bear similarities in a willingness to touch upon each part of a genre and at least give it a go, and at least TRY playing someone in a game, even if we suck at it.

I'm a natural critic, as you've probably guessed, so I can't help disliking certain things. I do like a challenge though. If I'm not forced to play the game, I will go against a challenge constantly until it's beaten.

A lot of people go on first impressions, and that's why you're angry about it, eh? Fine. No problem. I getcha.

Originally posted by PlasmaTorture


Right. Just how, with my days of playtime in that game, can pass every song on Heavy, 8x speed, Sudden, Reverse, and Shuffle, whilst freestyling and facing the audience.

Oh, wait...

I'd like to see you beat Max 300, MaxX Unlimited, The Legend of Max, bag, or any other 10-footer on heavy after your first few hours of playing. :rolleyes:



Yes, and the people who enter national Street Fighter competitions and win cash prizes and have legions of adoring fans? They only practiced a couple of hours and got that good!

This accounts for the fact that I have spent hundreds of hours playing Street Fighter and KOF, and I still suck at them!

i skimmed through this and didnt see any mention of fps games:( how could you leave out halo or ranbow six 3? now that most video games are online compatable it makes fps games especially fun mostly halo.

1 more thing....splinter cell pwnz

Originally posted by lionheart2316
i skimmed through this and didnt see any mention of fps games:( how could you leave out halo or ranbow six 3? now that most video games are online compatable it makes fps games especially fun mostly halo.

1 more thing....splinter cell pwnz
Probably because Halo is horribly overrated.

I really like Halo.... just don't expect me to play Single Player.

The only FPS shooter i enjoyed in single player is Far Cry. And Serious Sam. Even they don't rock my world. I love Far Cry because it's so free-form. I don't know why I like Serious Sam, it's just insanely fun. Halo never grabbed me.

I guess that's the difference, then, Mog. You and most of the others play games for that "fun" factor or whatever.

For me, though, videogames are just another medium for telling a story. Or, rather, that's the reason I play them. They tell stories would could not otherwise be told effectively.

I didn't start gaming as early as you guys did, I was one of those where FF7 grabbed my attention and caused me to look around for other games with great stories to tell.

Think about it, could you imagine the story behind FF6 being adequately done in a book? Or, rather, a single book. As opposed to an incredibly long series?

Or how about Tactics, or even that one people seem to be either die-hard fans/haters of, FF8?

Or even Ace Combat 4. For a flight combat game, it had a decent story backing it up. Same goes for Red Faction and Half Life in the FPS genre.

For Action/Adventure, Metal Gear Solid variants and the Legacy of Kain and Castlevania.

Anyway, that's my primary reason for picking up and playing a game. Which is why you'll often hear me snicker when someone raves about how great a game fighting game is--games which are traditionally void of any story at all.

And my disdain for games like the Legend of Zelda/Pokemon/what have you usually stem from the utter lack of compelling--or at least mildly interesting--story to propel them.

Now, I'll go pick one of them up and play them a bit, but if there's no real story behind it--of if I'm not competing against someone else in some multiplayer competition (what with how the AI is usually so damn stupid it's laughable)--I get bored fast and will often just turn the stupid game off and return it.

I just realized that there was really no point to my posting, so I'll just end it here.

Originally posted by mrmonkeyman

Probably because Halo is horribly overrated.

<3

UT2k4 is so much better...

;x

Well... for me, I don't come to FFS to talk about games, I go somewhere,so I don't show up in the games forums often.

I also don't play games that often anymore. Don't really have the time for it. Most of my time I would normally spend playing games is spent drawing... and when I'm in school, the only real time I have to play a game is right before going to sleep... which is what the gameboy is for.

Also, I can't really get people to play the games I like. Everyone is all over Capcom vs. SNK, but absolutely refuse to play anything by SNK. So I'm left with arcades, which I don't really go to much anymore and don't always find what I want, and which don't seem to exist in Georgia at all in any decent form.


So for now I'm working on art and mostly sticking to some favorites or watching just a few releases. For example, I pre-ordered the japanese release of RCR.It's my favorite series so even if I decided to pretty much give up gaming I probably still would have bought it. I'll be getting Suikoden 4 and KOF:MI when they come out. A few others...And then... perhaps in a year or two I'll come back and start grabbing everything I've missed if I ever get some time to relax.

I saw a copy of Sutte Hakkun for sale for $42. I've been waiting for that game to be available somewhere for years... and when it finally showed up I didn't have any money for it. =\



I just realized that there was really no point to my posting, so I'll just end it here.

Armagetron doesn't have a story. You play games for fun too.

For me, story and games are split. If gameplay is solid, I don't care about story, and my favorite game - umihara kawase - is a pure reflection of that. If a story is good, I don't care about gameplay, and that's why I like text adventures or point and click games, which are pretty much devoid of gameplay, besides solving abstract puzzles.

@rezo:


if I'm not competing against someone else in some multiplayer competition

I don't play the single player Armagetron.

And... That's about it.

Originally posted by Odin
@rezo:



I don't play the single player Armagetron.

And... That's about it.


You should play fighting games against other people then. That's pretty much their main...only... draw.

halo overrated? i think whoever says that played it once on easy and got raped...

Originally posted by lionheart2316
halo overrated? i think whoever says that played it once on easy and got raped...

Is Halo bad? Of course not. Is it overated? Hells yes.

Halo is a good game. I play it with Merl and my roommate quite a bit, and we have a lot of fun. Getting pwned on legendary or just generally goofing around with each other- it's all good.

However, it's hailed as the end all, be all of x-box games, and it's not. There are better games on the x-box, and there are better games on the other systems as well.

At school, Halo was like the only game anyone would play at all for the entire year. It was silly.

Um......I suppose that I am a gamer at heart if you would call it that, I play a lot of games (actually, the genre that I probably play least is RPG's). The only RPG's that I've ever really gotten into were FF, Parasite Eve and PEII, Vagrant Story, Super Mario RPG (That game was actually really fun :P) and Resident Evil II if you count it. ACtually, I was and still am not as much really into Pokemon though, the most I ever got though was 132 in the originals. Anyways, I like just about any game except for war games which aren't horrible but I only like a special few. I do though really like sports games just because I am really into sports and they are a great time playing with my friends. Some of my favorite games though were (going in order of platforms) just about any of my Atari games, original Mario, Mario 3, damn I can't think of any other older games.......Super Mario 3D, Tony Hawk Series (ALL of them are great), Enter the Matrix, Need For Speed Underground, just about any other EA game that is of mainstream sports, especially NBA Street 1 @ 2 and NFL Street, Tekken games, Morrowind, Halo, Half-Life, Warcraft III, Black @ White (on a side note, that game is really great you should all play it) and also the AOE/AOM games. I have loved many more but I am having a hard time thinking right now.

I played a lot of the PC and Xbox versions. The controls were floaty, the graphics some sort of citizen kabuto rip-off, with the vehicles being my only really kudos to give it.

Sorry.

Super Mario RPG (That game was actually really fun :P) My respect for you rose 10 fold after that statement because Super Mario RPG is one of the greatest games of all time.


Enter the Matrix My respect for just got core dumped Armagetron style

On the Halo front I don't own a copy of Halo or an xbox but I play Halo quite abit but really only the multiplayer and only when we have at least 10 people together because that is when it is a really good game instead of just a pretty good game and I think the gameplay is close if not the best of any consloe shooters. The singleplayer isn't that fun really. It is overhyped and it is a good game.

Couldn't agree more. I have never even touched the single player but as for Enter The Matrix, it may just be my infatuation with the Matrix but I will get to the bank lobby area place and stay there forever cause the guards keep coming. Or else just do two player hack. That's it. So you're respect for me rose yippee!

For the record, while playing KOF and SF is way better with someone else, I even love the single player modes.

If story is all that's important, you might as well remove the gameplay altogether and just have it be a really long movie, since story-driven games are essentially just long movies where you make stuff happen.

The whole point of video games is that they are games. In fact, I don't even think that Final Fantasy VII and games of that sort should be referred to as "video games," I think they ought to be called interactive stories or something like that. A game is just that... a game. You play it, and it's fun. The fact that Odin can't appreciate them doesn't really surprise me much, for exactly that reason. =\