I'd like to say that they're any good. BUT THEY'RE NOT. I usually don't dig when directors decide to insert a pop or rock song over the End Credits of a movie when there was a OS all movie long!

Although, there are a couple of good examples like that Rage Against The Machine song at the end of The Matrix. It was effective considering the hybrid techno/electronic/orchestral score used in the film (Thanks to Don Davis and Juno Reactor!).

Unfortunatly too many bad examples like Forever May Not Be Long Enough at the end of The Mummy Returns. UGH!

What are your thoughts on this? :)

My judgement might not be the best since I don't remember the last time I watched a movie. I feel like it was The Dark Knight Rises but idk. Ironically I've seen both of those movies OP. I might get flamed for this so I'm just gonna post this anyway.


OT: Depends on what type of movie you're watching. I'm cool with rock music in the credits in almost any movie, it just makes the movie seem more epic. Now pop on the other hand, is cringeworthy especially in the ending. I can't stand it. If you listen to the pop music nowadays, it's just no. http://r11.imgfast.net/users/1114/38/76/62/smiles/4063104189.gif

It's really hit or miss.

I really enjoyed the end credits to: Ghost Rider (first one), Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters, Taken (first one), Scream.
Then there were plenty I was absolutely disappointed with: Judge Dredd (Stallone version), probably most teen flicks, and most chick-flicks, especially teen-chick-flicks.

Game Of Thrones: Season 3: "The Bear and the Maiden Fair". :notgood:
Utter crap. Ruined season 3 entirely!
But made it up for with the Rains of Castamere. :love: Although that episode didn't have any pop/rock songs in the end credits.

There was an actual performance of "Rains of Castamere" by the group "The National" in season 2; episode 9: "Blackwater".
It was brilliant for end credits.

The Bayformers trilogy did alright with Linkin Park. I rather enjoyed their music. Especially the remix of Iridescent.
But after Linkin Park, they should have switched immediately to Steve Jablonsky's score and not other pop/rock songs. :notgood:

Tomorrow Never Dies had an excellent pop song by K.D. Lang "Surrender" which have made a better opening titles (as intended) and Sheryl Crow's "Tomorrow Never Dies" would have made a better end credits pop song.

The 2010 remake of A Nightmare On Elm Street did splendidly playing "All I Have To Do Is Dream" by the Everly Brothers.

On that note, the FX original series "American Horror Story" had a number of great pop/rock songs for end credits.
The biggest hit was "Baby, You Ain't Looking Right" by Powersolo. Which was used in True Blood prior to AHS.
And probably every TV show that was made in the 21[sp]st[/sup] century.
It was great whenever AHS used any old song that sounds like it came off a phonorecord.

True Blood had a huge hit/miss ratio. There were plenty of times I would just end the episode before listening to the rest of the end credits while other times I just let it play out.

Quintin Tarantino has a tendency to do well.
His earlier years were much more pleasing. Way more pleasing.
He's converted entirely to depending on Morricone for EVERY THING he does.

I don't mind it. It broadens my horizon to new music and new genres as I don't normally listen to pop/rock so much at all.
I can name a few rock bands/artists that I like but can't name their entire history, life experiences, drugs they've used, hookers they slept with and every project they did.

I won't say I "like" it as that usually leads towards people thinking I know everything and anything about what I "like" when I really mean "I didn't turn it off so I could listen to the rest of the end credits".


It's my window to the "modern" world that isn't score.


Morgan Freeman narrating: "That's classical to you.

I wouldn't have minded if the end credits to Shawshank Redemption was "If I Didn't Care" by The Ink Spots.

i'm an 'old guy' who grew up in the days of the greats of classic film scoring such as Rosza, Herrmann, Newman, North etc and so i usually detest pop/rock songs anywhere in a film. i feel they are just done to help finance the film with record companies paying to have whatever 'artist' they currently are pushing/revitalizing get a boost.

there have been a few exceptions, even of late. i particularly liked the end credit song in Time Bandits for instance, as it was written for the film. too many movies have pop/rock songs that have lyrics that have no relevance to the movie plot and sometimes actually run counter to the film's story and/or action!

so there is an oldtimer's rant!

I believe Linkin Park wrote 2/3 songs exclusively for the Bayformers films.
Whether or not the lyrics reflect the film, I'm not sure. I don't hear words so well.

There was another song I liked quite a bit that was written exclusively for a film...

I know Filter did a cover for The Turtle's "Happy Together" exclusively for The Stepfather (2009).
That was about the largest reason for any soundtrack CD sales for The Stepfather.
Filter admitted on their Facebook page that they were thinking of doing a re-recording of their cover to "Happy Together".

I think it was a big thing back in the 90's to use a pop song at the end of the movie. Everybody remembers My Heart Will Go On in Titanic. I even liked Bryan Adam's Everthing I Do in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, haha! Mostly because these songs were intricately connected to the story. It was nice the way Kamen and Horner inserted the melody in their score as to "announce" it.

I hate pop songs in the end credits !

It really depends on the type of movie. If a song is specifically made for a movie, it usually turns out okay IMO. Like Skyfall for example. I'm definitely not a fan of the current music, but I thought the theme was pretty fitting for this movie, like everything does crumble etc. I dunno, I'm bad at explaining these types of things.

Depends on the movie. For Horner films: Titanic, Bicentennial Man, Perfect Storm and American tale to name a few, The song is integral to the score. It is written with the score elements directly in the song, and so for me do not seem out of place. The end title for Matrix and Godzilla also work for me. "Iron Man" at the end of Iron Man was an obvious but good choice.

What I don't like are VA soundtracks filled with songs not relevant to the movie (Twister, which has song on the album played only briefly on a juke box in the background of one scene....). Now albums such as Crow or Lost Boys, thse songs are integral to the score, and so appropriate for an album....

It worked well in the classic Bond era because it was usually a song penned by the score composer, so they were related thematically. It really depends on the film and the song being used, but more often than not, it seems like little more than an excuse at pasting a catchy song over the end credits in an attempt to sell the soundtrack.

This brings up another question: How does everyone feel about "Music from and inspired by..." Albums? I'm talking about "soundtracks" that will often feature songs that aren't even in the films? Spiderman 3 being a prime example.

Disney sucks at doing it.

Hunchback for Notre Dame was extremely painful to listen to Michael Bolton at the end.
Soft, sappy and whispery.

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The Lion King was about the most decent thing with Elton John.
I clubbed a baby seal listening to Michael Bolton.

While we're at Michael Bolton clones doing end credits, The Mask of Zorro would have been blu-ray worthy if it wasn't MBclone doing the end credits.

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Leona Lewis is also terrible.

And what's-her-face for Gladiator.

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Way to ruin a manly, masculine film by throwing in the "chick flick" factor.

They're all largely chick flicks now because they needed to throw in some commercialist ideal to make sure that when men go see the movie that they bring their gf's/wives with them to maximize ticket sales.
And then home consumer sales when the movie comes out on VHS/DVD/HD-DVD/BD and the soundtrack comes out on CD/HDCD/Vinyl/Amazon/Itunes/TheDailyPeriod...

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I have to agree with Amanda on Twister. That was purely for commercial benefits.
"Let's get someone old people are hip with to do the music for this movie! :awsm:"

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Give me more Horner over that hippie shit. :smrt:

Definitely agree with Lyedecker. The Bond films knew how to commercialize their product.
That was the whole point of James Bond: to be as campy as you can be and still be entertaining.
From the titular songs to the titular Bond Girls to the cars and gadgets, it was all meant to be a three-ring circus from the start.

You don't put Leona Lewis and Celine Dion at the end of the movie because. Ever.
I don't see Avatar as an MTV movie special with "pop-up video" factoids making jokes and puns.
Until the end credits roll and that bitch starts singing.

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Getting guitarists for modern MVC/RC films/scores is very commericalist.

But it's not like the composers let the guitarist do a whole track by themselves for the movie and make it completely irrelevant and unrelated.

What are they going to do? Make a whole soundtrack just to fit around one guitarists solo piece and make an overly dramatic music video to appeal to teenagers???





"Music from and inspired by..." is okay.
As long as it's only that.

I don't like it when they have a suite from the score that isn't on the score CD itself.
Or if it has 4 score tracks and a score CD was never released.

Or when someone buys me the "VA" (Various Artists) OST when I really wanted the score OST.
I feel bad because they thought they bought the best birthday present.

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I personally liked Sugar Rush... ;P

As Amanda says: "Depends on the movie", you cannot ( and they don't ) do that for The Perfume or Amadeus !!!

Amadeus

I want to watch that. But only if the end scene before the credits is his version of Requiem (Requiem Mass in D minor (K. 626)) blaring on the speakers really loud and triumphantly.

I love watching Shekar Kapur's Elizabeth for that aspect. The end of the movie is just too spectacular to even try to tell anyone to watch it just for that scene.
On it's own, it's pretty, but with everything else preceding it, it's beyond beautiful.

I would love to find an excellent 5.1 mix of Mozart's Requiem (discreet channel mixing).

Tomb Raider with Angelina Jolie had one of the most awful soundtrack to it. Like fuck man.

Those films were just shit all around. They made me stop liking her...stupid fakey accent :notgood:

I knew the minute she was cast as titbags, it was going to suck.
She's nothing spectacular.

Hell, even Sandra Bullock would have made a better choice.
I think it would have had a completely different outlook on the music selection.

Maybe some score to really give it life.