Superman Returns tried that moral ambiguity "where do I fit in" thing. Clark knows better than that. He came to terms with that the minute he stepped up to the mantle. And, I do not really think he'd leave Earth unprotected like that, to explore a burnt husk. And while I am here, what's the deal with that? I saw in the making of book that there were a few scenes regarding Krypton lite, and yet I have never seen a cut of the movie with those scenes in it? And why would it even still be there if the sun had gone nova? It is all very odd. But, anyhoo. The film tried to incorporate itself into the 79 movie; into it's timeline and "feel". So, the style of filming, the sets, the music, all of it were designed to be in line with the frame of the original. That was done on purpose. It just backfired, is all.[COLOR="Silver"]
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"Superman Returns" was a very messy production. What you mentioned was a very expensive scene that got discarded because it didn't add anything to the plot. It can be found on YouTube, if you want to check it out. Another example of the movie's sloppiness: the Smallville section was supposed to be a lot longer. Clark was supposed to find out his mother was dating, and was supposed to find six years of Daily Planet issues to catch up with the times. At least that unused material wasn't as expensive as the Krypton sequence. There was also supposed to be a subplot that explained why Superman suspected Krypton could have survived the explosion. Turns out one of Lex Luthor's henchmen (Kal Penn) messed with some astronomical data, to trick Supes into leaving the planet. Speaking of Kal, his character had more lines in the script. I think he was originally envisioned to be this movie's equivalent of Otis, but they didn't know what to do with him.

[QUOTE=Mino_Dan;2371477]Story? Are you talking about this mess were an entire builiding of reporters can't piece together that Clark Kent and Superman were both absent for exactly 5 years?
Were Lex Luthor fucks almost dead women for their money and comes up with the most obnoxious and downright stupid ploy to become rich with Kryptonian rock real estate?
Or the fact that Kryptonite only seems to be lethal for Supes when HE FEELS LIKE IT?
Where the heroes hideout is completly open for anyone to enter in his absence?
Where a court has to set free a mad man because the Superhero that catched him wasn't around?
Where a superhero can throw an entire continent into space but struggles with saving a freaking passanger plane?!
Where the feisty reporter brings her 5 year old spawn on a boat that she KNOWS is the epicenter of the blackout, and of course leave her fucking phone in the car!

That movie even insults the intelligence of fruit flies!!![/QUOT

So I take it you don�t like any Superman movie....right.......... A bunch of reprters can�t even figure out who Clark Kent is from only wearing sunglasses

All that you�ve listed above will be fixed in MOS.........HA HA HA HA HA LOL........

Nothing in MOS compares to the beating and humiliation Superman receives at the hands of Luthor in Returns

Which brings me to a favorite line in Lois & Clark, from the people come back from the future, addressing the idea that Lois took ssooooooo long to figure it out: "people always wanted to know, and now we can find out.....how dumb WAS she?" (Or something around those lines)

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I have always maintained Clark needs training in the cave with Bats. Even Robin could have taken those goons. And, shanked in the back. How fucking undignified is that? Really highlights Luthor's "good side" though. Still, it would seem he was strong enough to lift the island with a piece still in him. I think that is supposed to show the strength of his resolution, and the level of sacrifice he'll go to. I wanna know how they got the suit off without cutting it off. Hospital personnel would not have taken the time to carefully remove it, they would have sliced it, and torn it off. Time is life, or sumsuch.

omg thank you so much :D :D

Have you seen Superman 1 and 2...... if so you�ve seen MOS ........

You do know that Superman is virtually indestructible...... What Singer did was raise the stakes hence The Son element....also it�s theme is directed from Superman 1 The father becomes the Son...... The Son becomes the Father.... somethin like that.... Singer imo would�ve used The Son as a way to get at Superman..... it�s what the movies have done since Donner�s 78 Superman..... MOS is no different..... in fact it fails at every level in this.....you don�t care for any of the Characters even Superman.....I will say this that Nothing in MOS compares to the Airplane Scene in Superman Returns...... there�s only so much times ya can watch shite blow up..... I�ve seen everything in MOS in Matrix Revolutions.... so I applaud Singer go the opposite dirrection....watchin Superman do Superfeats because we care about the people he�s saving is more worth while than watchin Aliens Blow up a City because...well I won�t spoil it for ya...... hence why the 3 way fight in Donners Superman 2 movie is epic..... it�s about Superman�s human side imo......

I agree with the Luthor Superman Returns....He should�ve been a meglomaniac which would�ve hurt Superman even more for leaving all behind

Of course I've seen 1 and 2, they are amazing movies, superman 2 (richard donner cut) is the best superman film so far because Superman: The movie introduced the character so damn well and had him mostly doing his super feats which was necessary for a first time superman movie but in 2 he faces 3 villains who are his equal and that fight was incredible for the time but then in Superman Returns instead of upping what went before we just got the 78 film re-done with the exception of the greatest scene in any comic book movie (the plane saving scene) but that scene is never topped because no way Superman could lift a continent made of kyptonite, so no it's 2013 and people want to see Superman doing super feats and actually fighting someone not just catching things.

Either way no one will ever be able to replace Christopher Reeve because he is Superman, he always will be imo and no welling, routh, cain or now Henry Cavill could ever top that but MOS does look like while it may not become a masterpiece, it is the Superman film so many people have been waiting for and everybody has their own opinion which needs to be respected but personally I have always loved all types of scores, I am a huge fan of both John Williams and Hans Zimmer.

Oh boy, until now I never realized just how goddamn stupid all of the Superman movies were!

Fridge Logic: Superman is a Moron (Part 1) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l-fhVATSr8)
Fridge Logic: Superman is a Moron (Part 2) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tfoc9ezWwY)

Kinda sad as I always liked the first 2 movies!

Here it doesn't seem like Zimmer has tried to reinvent or produce something new and bold, it just seems like he had a job to do and did it with as much care as you would scoring a random action flick. It might serve its purpose to add to the action elements of the film and the visuals, but a score could and can be more than that. JNH or John Powell or Giacchino (though probs not cos of his Trek and possible Wars gigs) could create the emotional undercurrents needed to make the score invoke any feeling and response to the visuals.

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His score here is for me not as memorable as Inception. But who's to reward for that success? Zimmer or Balfe?
I still liked some of the stuff here though and I'll probably end up buying it. No innovative work here, just some all round music that doesn't require me having to think too much. Maybe that's what people like about Zimmer?

Thank you!

Many, many thanks!

thanks! i am looking also for flac, but mp3 work great for until i find it :D

I don't know about you guys, but Hans Zimmer did a nice job for the movie White Fang, the tracks that he contributed. You guys should listen to the Intrada edition, and listen to what he composed.

flight mp3 320 (source what.cd)

https://mega.co.nz/#!FYV3nTTT!W6wqcEcxMxku0GGVRyf-sUDtbI9iDeIWemKJt3gOCP4

Thanks Lilu, hoping for real FLAC or 320 soon...

Thanks!!!!

Thank You. Superman is my favorite SuperHero.

To the stars sounds like a cue from call of duty with the choir from alien 3 " agnus dei"

Zimmer did again. Just synthetic crapy loud noise

Thanks a ton for this!!! I'm dying to listen to this!

I'm waiting for the FLAC version. Argo, fuck yourself

So now that this score has finally leaked, after a quick listen through of portions of the tracks, fans can rest assured that not a single bloody reference to John Williams' classic Superman remains intact. Every technique that Zimmer has employed in his career is present here meaning you get basically another rehash with nothing really new to offer. Does that mean it's bad? No, not necessarily but it's definitely NOT as memorable as the original. Honestly, there are no themes that scream to me to repeat it even though I no doubt will.

That leads me to my next point: I wish directors would stop and question why Hans Zimmer is the busiest composer in Hollywood right now because his output is never consistent nor is it consistently listenable. Sometimes he does go on autopilot therefore making it a safe gamble for fans (and maybe directors, too?) that are afraid that Zimmer will screw up another classic theme with his "themes" but so far, for every 1 good "original" score he does, he follows the next dozen up with either a rehash of a popular theme or motif of his with little to no development or it just becomes a repetitious bore of a mess.

Fans scoff all you want at my next comment but I disliked The Dark Knight trilogy scores for that exact reason. Batman Begins was good because at the time he actually built on his trademark sounds while simply rehashing the same material for the sequels. The new Joker theme for The Dark Knight score can't even musically be considered a theme because there's nothing melodic about a one-note sound effect. It's effective but it's not enough to keep the score moving along at a nice pace. It's just a simple sound effect that starts out very low and just increases in volume and intensity but not leaving you with a theme that you'll be humming at the end of the movie.

I attribute the success of the first two scores of the trilogy to James Newton Howard's contributions. James Newton Howard, a man with actual musical and melodic talent, helped even out the overall tone of the scores for the first two movies but his exclusion from The Dark Knight Rises proved very detrimental since the only new theme introduced into TDKR was for Bane which wasn't nearly as fascinating as the development stories led us to believe it would be. The Bane chant was impressive but there was NO, that's right ZERO ZILCH NADA, development on it. The Joker motif actually got some sort of progression in the end. It just popped up at random times only to be replaced with dull underscore and repetitive action music from the first two films along with the multiple reprises of the "Dark Knight" theme that I swore if I heard blast from my speakers one more bloody time I was gonna poke my ears out with hot pokers. Predictably he repeated it no less than 4 or 5 times throughout the nearly 3 hour film but despite that, my ears were not gouged out with hot pokers but I also lost quite a bit of interest when it kept getting repeated over and over again. There was no development so you pretty much knew where the score was leading with each preceding cue. Don't get me wrong, it did have its moments (the first few instances of the Bane theme and the extremely minimalistic and underdeveloped theme for Catwoman) but those moments were overshadowed by Zimmer's insistent repetition.

Inception is a rare score in that I actually LOVED the themes for it BUT like every other score he's done for the last 5-10 years, he repeats the same themes ad nauseum. There is the occasional development but in most cases, it's basically a cut and paste job.

Sherlock Holmes 1 & 2 are the only two scores of his that I can find little to no fault with since he went all out for that score and created an entirely new sound that unfortunately hasn't really been heard much in his post-Sherlock works. Why doesn't he take a cue from himself and do something like that again? Better yet, why doesn't he get more work like that? He's NOT a composer that I think is meant for big Hollywood action films. He reminds me of a high class Tyler Bates. The only difference is Tyler Bates offers interesting ambient sounds while also introducing new action sounds. Go through Tyler Bates' resume over the last 10 years and you will notice that he is a very diverse composer that doesn't get himself lodged in a genre niche and refuse to leave it. He explores other genres and expands on his musical style even if he did blatantly rip-off music from Elliot Goldenthal's Titus in his score for 300. At least it was a pleasant rip-off. Zimmer lodges himself in the big action movies niche with an occasional comedy, kids movie or drama when things are slow in his career. I think he needs to step away from the big action movie genre for a while, work on a few dozen smaller films to develop a little bit of humanity to his scores than in currently being demonstrated.

After all is said and done, I will definitely be seeing Man of Steel in IMAX 3D because honestly, that is the single best way to enjoy Zimmer's big action scores: within the confines of the movies themselves but otherwise outside of the film, they come across very bland, heavily inspired and largely uninteresting.

There is further proof that talent does still exist in Hollywood but with how Zimmer seems to be taking a big slice of the Hollywood composer cake, we may never get to experience another composer's work that isn't overshadowed by Zimmer for probably many years. Until that time comes, I will give each new Zimmer score a listen or two then promptly delete them off my hard drive.

To the Zimmerites out there, you go on and continue eating your bitter Zimmer pie while I have a slice of the sweet stuff. If THIS is the future of music, I think I'll keep looking back in the past. At least there, entertainment is guaranteed.

OK, gotta ask .. (yes, i am a die hard zimmerite, and yes, some points you make are valid, but I might consider some of zimmer's scores junk food...I know it's not healthy, or bio, or sweet, but i am addicted to it). But I gotta ask...what about The Last Samurai and / or The Thin red line? Where do they fit in your rant?

Fake 256K confirmed.It's upconverted from 160K version.

how do you check the real kbps?? what software do you use?? thanksss :D

Use Spek ? Free Acoustic Spectrum Analyzer / Spectrogram Viewer (http://spek.cc/) is more easy that adobe audition

OK, gotta ask .. (yes, i am a die hard zimmerite, and yes, some points you make are valid, but I might consider some of zimmer's scores junk food...I know it's not healthy, or bio, or sweet, but i am addicted to it). But I gotta ask...what about The Last Samurai and / or The Thin red line? Where do they fit in your rant?

Good point, but for me it's like brushing my teeth then having an orange juice straight after it. I do regret listening before Watching tho. Never again

One thing, well actually several things, you can say about the folks who frequent this forum: we're consistent. We follow the same pattern of behavior almost every time:

To wit:

Step 1: Almost universal anticipation for an upcoming film and/or soundtrack. (In fact our favorite films/soundtracks are the ones still unreleased.)

Step 2: Then the film/soundtrack is released.

Step 3: Then the long knives come out.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat with the next unreleased film/soundtrack.

Use Spek ? Free Acoustic Spectrum Analyzer / Spectrogram Viewer (http://spek.cc/) is more easy that adobe audition

you can't rely on a simple spectrum analyzer!
you need adobe audition!!

if i take an ALAC track from iTunes and drag it into spek it looks exactly the same way with an AAC i made from the previous ALAC

you have been served ;)

Thank you for your work. THIS is greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much! :)

Does anybody have the FLAC or 320k version of this score?

Oh, you mean you don't have the sessions already? Hmm...

Thanks

listening to it now
Terraforming stands out so far
the rest is okay

Thank You!!


Scott

Thanks!

Thanks for posting this. I'm curious to have a listen before buying.

This score has to be listened and appreciated WITH the movie. Remember the first reaction we had with the score of AVATAR.

Thanks a lot.

MASTERPICE!!! Hans did it again!!! Tornado makes me cry! Awesome!

Am i right? no fucking suites this time!!! many thanks for sharing very good listening album too hear,i smell a new trilogy

Thanks for this super post!

Anyone in the US, the Deluxe Edition packages should have arrived today from Amazon for some people...I smell FLAC or proper 320k MP3 coming??

Anyone in the US, the Deluxe Edition packages should have arrived today from Amazon for some people...I smell FLAC or proper 320k MP3 coming??

Thank you!

Am i right? no fucking suites this time!!! many thanks for sharing very good listening album too hear,i smell a new trilogy\


what? well shiiiiiit, no fuckin suites?! well i gonna make my own. mix is with this mix it with that and mix it with something else by junkie xl.........to fill in the gaps lol

i am with you with this. i hate zimmer suites.

well we need to see the movie to know if music themes are suites or not

overall though, the soundtrack isnt bad. But not that memorable.
I am sure it works with the movie fine

Thanks You!

Any MoS review looses any kind of merit if the reviewer pretends that Superman Returns was decent movie.

I mean really?! Superman Returns?! How fucking lame is that!!!


No way am I gonna waste my time and Breath with someone who posts something like this

Originally Posted by Mino_Dan
Really enjoyed the score. MUCH better than that campy cheery 70s nonsense that Williams stans have been raving about for the last 40 years!


Nothing more needs to be said

Anyone in the US, the Deluxe Edition packages should have arrived today from Amazon for some people...I smell FLAC or proper 320k MP3 coming??

dont forget, anyone in the U.S is probably working right now so expect it quite late for someone to share it.

The more I listen to it, the more it sounds like some kind of demo tape or temp score.

dont forget, anyone in the U.S is probably working right now so expect it quite late for someone to share it.

let's hope you're right!



The more I listen to it, the more it sounds like some kind of demo tape or temp score.

you have to go into detail…

Yeah, this score sounds a lot like Hulk.

Am i right? no fucking suites this time!!! many thanks for sharing very good listening album too hear,i smell a new trilogy

Actually the "Hans' original sketchbook" is a suite (which brings nothing more than what's present in the previous 17 tracks, though). And the 6 other bonus tracks are also suites/demo/tests, i suspect. But i haven't seen the movie so i may be wrong...

I dunno, the entire album just sounds sloppy to me. There's moments that are close to greatness, but they inevitably degrade into relentless percussion. It seems like Zimmer was winging it.

Is there a reason why there's 4 different threads for this?

Is there a reason why there's 4 different threads for this?

haha :D NO!

The same rip For all different pickles !

Is there a reason why there's 4 different threads for this?

Because people don't pay attention. Stupidity should be painful

And then a month from now when the links on this thread and the other one are dead, someone will upload a copy, and rather than post in here or the others, they'll make a new thread

The more I listen to it, the more it sounds like some kind of demo tape or temp score.


You do know that the MOS has shaped film scores music for another generation and that Hollywood will ask every known composer to copy it..... such as the lunatics running the asylum......... I can hear the producers crying and shouting.... more Drums.........More Drums

Of course. Then we can add a special bonus to the blu-ray featuring the 150 drummers recording the 2 minute track they are featured on. It will be a 2 hour featurette, and at the end we will still only have heard the same 30 seconds of score replayed over and over. It will be a track NOT on any edition of the albums anywhere. But at a special bonus price, you will be able to buy it as an app, at mp3 68k. However it will be a remix, with the drums accompanied by 35 kazoo players. :awsm:

thaaaanks !!!

Thanks! :)

Thanks for he upload! :)

thank u for the link!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whats with all the hate, I dont get it, I love Zimmer music but I dont hate Williams. John Williams had his era where he was the king, this era belongs to Zimmer, no one can argue against that.

You dont hear people complaining about why the special effects are not like the first two Superman movies, why on earth would the music be.

For all the haters here, who hate zimmer and his music, go to Hollywood, tell them you are better composer, get hired, do better music then him, then come here to bitch and moan about it, because then you can

[QUOTE=nashnamikaze;2371847]Whats with all the hate, I dont get it, I love Zimmer music but I dont hate Williams. John Williams had his era where he was the king, this era belongs to Zimmer, no one can argue against that.

You dont hear people complaining about why the special effects are not like the first two Superman movies, why on earth would the music be.

For all the haters here, who hate zimmer and his music, go to Hollywood, tell them you are becomposer, get hired, do better music then him, then come here to bitch and moan about it, because then you can[/QUOTE

I'm so fucking sorry I and others share an opinion which offends or differs from you. John Williams had his era for the reason being he could compose music which everyone could recognise and enjoy. Zimmer seems to have his era by some default like he is a cheap commodity. They actually still play Williams' work in concerts.

How dare you say I can't have an opinion. You'll probably just piss off and never read this thread again. Some people leave for coffee breaks or toilet breaks, but I'll still be here respecting each person's right to an opinion, not passively trying to defeat the purpose of a forum. Fuck off, don't fuck off. It's up to you, really.

Is there a reason why there's 4 different threads for this?

Language barriers.

I have to disagree to call this the era of Zimmer is just absurd! It shouldn't even be called Williams era in his time but rather even he is a part of the era where real geniuses (Jerry Goldsmith, Elmer Bernstein, Maurice Jarre, Georges Delerue, Alan Silvestri, James Horner, at al ) about film scores are flourishing and weaving their own magic. It's not the hate on the man or Zimmer but on his works over amplified by marketing and hype machine but the quality is abysmal.
to nashnamikaze and to all die hard Zimmerites,

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2hweleVYK1r6f6deo1_500.gif

I would probably class myself as a die hard zimmer fan, and as one i can even accept if I hear something bad from him. I won't kid myself into liking something like most on here. If Hans Zimmers name was put on one of the poorest scores ever made it would still be considered a masterpiece, purely because his name is on it.

[QUOTE=nashnamikaze;2371847]Whats with all the hate, I dont get it, I love Zimmer music but I dont hate Williams. John Williams had his era where he was the king, this era belongs to Zimmer, no one can argue against that.

You dont hear people complaining about why the special effects are not like the first two Superman movies, why on earth would the music be.

For all the haters here, who hate zimmer and his music, go to Hollywood, tell them you are becomposer, get hired, do better music then him, then come here to bitch and moan about it, because then you can[/QUOTE

I'm so fucking sorry I and others share an opinion which offends or differs from you. John Williams had his era for the reason being he could compose music which everyone could recognise and enjoy. Zimmer seems to have his era by some default like he is a cheap commodity. They actually still play Williams' work in concerts.

How dare you say I can't have an opinion. You'll probably just piss off and never read this thread again. Some people leave for coffee breaks or toilet breaks, but I'll still be here respecting each person's right to an opinion, not passively trying to defeat the purpose of a forum. Fuck off, don't fuck off. It's up to you, really.

When did I say you cant have an opinion, what I was referring to, which made you cry it seems, only when you have walked in someone's shoes can you understand them, and not be so judgemental, that's simple logic and they do play zimmers music in concerts, try youtube it can do wonders.........

...I won't kid myself into liking something like most on here. If Hans Zimmers name was put on one of the poorest scores ever made it would still be considered a masterpiece, purely because his name is on it.

Precisely. I ain't a fan of the man but I sure have my own favorite works of him from his earlier days to which I see real quality but now I don't see it that way and if fans are hurting because of the contradicting opinion then you yourself are to blame for eating everything the guy throws at you even if it's sh*t. Just saying.
Sure it's not just zimmer music that you can see schools and repertories play there in concerts. Yup it does youtube can do wonders should one widen the horizon not just on one guy. :p

Listened to it, not impressed. I was looking forward to some great action music and all I heard were drums, quiet, drums, quiet, and more drums. When Zimmer did Gladiator, Inception, and Crimson Tide I could follow the music from beginning to end as each naturally progressed and went along with the story. Man of Steel, sounds like a constant repeat of the same drum beat over and over. I know some say that to get it you need to watch the movie along with it, but any good director, or composer will tell you that the score should compliment the movie not be a prerequisite. I know that Zimmer had a lot of pressure to come up with something if not as good as, but comparable to Williams, and as difficult as that may be it sounds like he didn't try very hard at all. I listened to the soundtrack twice and nothing sticks out all. I like Zimmer, just not this piece of music.

[QUOTE=Plutopurto;2371860]

When did I say you cant have an opinion, what I was referring to, which made you cry it seems, only when you have walked in someone's shoes can you understand them, and not be so judgemental, that's simple logic and they do play zimmers music in concerts, try youtube it can do wonders.........

I don't think anyone's judging Zimmer the person, just his talents and abilities, and you don't need to be an artist yourself to do just that. If you're upset with the way people are reacting to the score, then go some place where your opinion is more widely shared or don't get yourself all tied into an angry knot. No sense in getting upset at people and their opinions.

And this is coming from a guy who likes the score (mildly, so far, I should say).

I don't think anyone's judging Zimmer the person, just his talents and abilities, and you don't need to be an artist yourself to do just that. If you're upset with the way people are reacting to the score, then go some place where your opinion is more widely shared or don't get yourself all tied into an angry knot. No sense in getting upset at people and their opinions.

Always been my point. Thanks for reiterating that. I know a place ----- anything that has his name and all his works are glorified. just type his name, add a few more words like fan site, community, dedicated thread. I'm sure one will be pleased with most if not all of them agreeing and praising each others opinion to a tee.


And this is coming from a guy who likes the score (mildly, so far, I should say).

Most of us would agree on this one. Myself included.

Hello my Granny love. Where have you been lately ?

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:loldata:

Hello my Granny love. Where have you been lately ?

http://65.img.v4.skyrock.net/7605/17557605/pics/556302828.gif

Oh that's sweet! Been busy lately chatting with fellow old timers out of town but believe it or not any chance I have to visit shrine I constantly look out for familiar names and their posts and you are in that lists. How have you been lately too dear?

... Quite busy too, makes free time precious enough to forget something like this place. But always nice to meet some of you again my love.

Ahh... Those endless arguments... http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t377/mutha_nite/Smiley%20Treasure/2eyj4si_th.gif

Listened to it, not impressed. I was looking forward to some great action music and all I heard were drums, quiet, drums, quiet, and more drums. When Zimmer did Gladiator, Inception, and Crimson Tide I could follow the music from beginning to end as each naturally progressed and went along with the story. Man of Steel, sounds like a constant repeat of the same drum beat over and over. I know some say that to get it you need to watch the movie along with it, but any good director, or composer will tell you that the score should compliment the movie not be a prerequisite. I know that Zimmer had a lot of pressure to come up with something if not as good as, but comparable to Williams, and as difficult as that may be it sounds like he didn't try very hard at all. I listened to the soundtrack twice and nothing sticks out all. I like Zimmer, just not this piece of music.

The ONLY function of a score is to serve the movie. The only function of the fx, costumes, set design and acting is to serve the director's vision for the movie. PERIOD. Whether or not it is a pleasing score to hear on an album is NOT the primary function. It's a nice by product, and that's it. The story is all.

Also, I am not judging Zimmer, his skills or this score. I "hate" none of it. Being critical of it, or disliking it is not bad. Saying, "Hey, I don't care for it" is not "hate". Backing that up by saying WHY you don't care for it is not hate. I approach a Zimmer score no differently than any Horner or Williams score I have not heard. I don't automatically like a score, let alone love, just because it is Horner. I like Horner's style. But I do not proclaim every score "genius" or "epic". I do not claim he is the voice of generations.

Williams and his contemporaries deserve out utmost respect. Even if you have never liked a single score from that time. Without them being brave enough to experiment, without the directors who supported them, we would not have the scores you so enjoy now. They were the pioneers that made it possible for Zimmer and HIS generation to push forward. I don't have to like the new styles to acknowledge that. Much as the generations before Williams may not have appreciated his style. It's all relative.

My point is that the love of FILM SCORE as a genre has brought us, all ages and genders, together here. Surely we can simply TALK about our love of this music without bloodshed or flames. I mean, why not? I love scores from almost every composer named in this thread. I hate -yes hate - scores from them as well. So what? I do not love all Williams. I do not love all Horner. Why is it hard to say not everything Zimmer is an epic masterpiece. Why is it bad to say there are at least the occasional clunkers? What person has shit gold daily? What artists has been divine **every** time. And considering the amount of his output, what are the odds that Zimmer has never missed the mark?

MOST of us are not saying this is a terrible score, or hate it. We are saying we feel it missed the mark. Or we feel let down. So what?

**geeze**

the quality is abysmal.

In your opinion.
The fans who call it the "Zimmer era" are just overzealous with their opinion as you are to yours about posting a gif over it.
:smrt:

I like it. But wouldn't call this a "Zimmer era".
I wouldn't call any era for that matter.

I think any "era" worth calling is the same as praising someone when their talents produced their best work for a short time.
When they peaked the highest they can in their arch.
When they can look back when they're old and say "those were the good old days".
When they've outlived their welcome.

Which is not until he's dead.
You say he's already lived his prime, while I say he's not.

@Sparktank 2.0

love the "This is my design." quote! :D

Correct teddybear. Sometimes it's not the music I'm looking out from this place but the passionate debates members had and their opinions. It gives you a hint on a person how he talks without seeing his/her face and that's exciting to me. As a matter of fact I would imagine you looking like a poster boy from a porn looking all innocent but naughty and rough. LoL (Forgive granny for that if we have minors reading this...)

Correct teddybear. Sometimes it's not the music I'm looking out from this place but the passionate debates members had and their opinions. It gives you a hint on a person how he talks without seeing his/her face and that's exciting to me. As a matter of fact I would imagine you looking like a poster boy from a porn looking all innocent but naughty and rough. LoL (Forgive granny for that if we have minors reading this...)


And how do you see me?

SPARKY!! Hey!

Didja listen to my present?

In your opinion.
The fans who call it the "Zimmer era" are just overzealous with their opinion as you are to yours about posting a gif over it.
:smrt:


Well you already stated what could be my response. Opinions, opinions and opinions. Works better than peeling an onion but in essence works the same way if the person is sensitive and oblivious enough. But at the end of the day it's still an OPINION.

Amanda,

Sorry dear I've already seen your avatar, but If I where to based what you look like inside judging on your posts my impression would always be the same. Accommodating, frank, sensitive and strong at the same time (you might not realized that one but I believe you are), hot and passionate!! How's that? Did I get it right?

... Am I Teddybear ?

Though...


As a matter of fact I would imagine you looking like a poster boy from a porn looking all innocent but naughty and rough.

... No, that's Spartank, no doubt. :-D




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... Works better than peeling an onion but in essence works the same way if the person is sensitive and oblivious enough.

Place a bit of onion skin on your head when peeling it. Seriously, you will be surprised. Old grandmas's trick.

well to me you are so what are going to do about it. LoL. of course I have grown to appreciate what we have here like constant chitchat we agree to disagree and I have embraced that like a teddybear! that's how it is.


Place a bit of onion skin on your head when peeling it. Seriously, you will be surprised. Old grandmas's trick.
I honestly don't know that, but hey what does it do to the person then?

@Sparktank 2.0

love the "This is my design." quote! :D

Why thank you for your opinion! :awsm:


SPARKY!! Hey!

Didja listen to my present?

Not yet. :laugh: I've been too busy trying to get some trailers converted for 3D presentation.
Spent 6 hours googling and reading. >.<


.... No, that's Spartank, no doubt. :-D

Poster boy? No.
Naughty and rough? On the inside. :angel:

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:erm: I actually forgot where I downloaded it too.
I haven't checked my downloads so it's mixed in there with other stuff too.

Poster boy? No.
Naughty and rough? On the inside.
I think I would like to know you more Sparky....:D

...
I honestly don't know that, but hey what does it do to the person then?

You just stop crying like if you lost your teddybear.

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I think I would like to know you more Sparky....:D

Tss tss. Don't run after two rabbits at the same time. http://www.gloryofwar.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/no%20smiley.gif

Ah !!! and you just made yourself a new beauty as I see. No, no. Stop that.

You just stop crying like if you lost your teddybear.
Hmmmm. I don't know but I haven't lost a teddybear yet but I do missed my t-rex.



Tss tss. Don't run after two rabbits at the same time.
Hey I'm not. We could be also be friends or buddies you know? :p

Well you already stated what could be my response. Opinions, opinions and opinions. Works better than peeling an onion but in essence works the same way if the person is sensitive and oblivious enough. But at the end of the day it's still an OPINION.

Amanda,

Sorry dear I've already seen your avatar, but If I where to based what you look like inside judging on your posts my impression would always be the same. Accommodating, frank, sensitive and strong at the same time (you might not realized that one but I believe you are), hot and passionate!! How's that? Did I get it right?

I honestly dunno oftern times. :( But, many of my friends would agree with you. (That's like, 2, maybe 3 folks....)

I think I would like to know you more Sparky....:D


Tss tss. Don't run after two rabbits at the same time. http://www.gloryofwar.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/no%20smiley.gif

Yeah, what the hey? :notgood: Disloyal. :notgood:
My punishments are severe.

MPEG-2.5 Audio Layer III 8kbps/8000 Hz

I honestly dunno oftern times. But, many of my friends would agree with you. (That's like, 2, maybe 3 folks....)
Don't be too hard on yourself babydoll. Having 2 or 3 loyal friends is better than having a bunch if they would leave you when you needed them.


Tss tss. Don't run after two rabbits at the same time.
One at a time maybe? :p

Sparky there's no link there it's better if I could hear that growling in there if that's what it is?

Hohoho.... Grrrr.... Grrr !

I swear I could hear some whip lashing and some more cuffs clinging in there....Ruaaarrrrrrrrh
Add of course the 150 drummers marching tune from this score as it's background now that would be splendid!

Sparky there's no link

It's the future of all MP3's~

I swear I could hear some whip lashing and some more cuffs clinging in there....Ruaaarrrrrrrrh

I dunno if you spotted it, but I tiped my post before you edit yours with the "growling" line.

I think you and I are connected at this right moment. Haha. Oh, you... ! Ok, I switch off or it is my brain that will disconnect.

(When I'll tell my friend Marco how the shrine is hot tonight... holala !).

I know I may be late on this (I have more of a life than to read 15+ pages of bickering to find the one post I'm talking about) but after a more devoted listening, I can't help but notice how loud it is. I don't mean just the percussive stuff, the lighter stuff seems to be mixed way too loud as well. It's a constant volume button war for me. Anyway that is all. Glad to see this piece of mediocrity is getting the unneeded attention it no doubt doesn't deserve but hey, in the spirit of things I'm just gonna throw out the fact that it's MY opinion alone and I dare someone to challenge me. Actually no I don't. I don't really care at this point, haha.

I don't think it's about the Man of Steel anymore.

Eeeerrr... Yes maybe, but not Zimmer's.

It's the future of all MP3's~
If you say so. I believe we already hijacked this thread far too long now but just so you know Spark like any other member here each opinions count (I would dare not forget Arials', Amandas', and all the Jane and John Does' matter) and at the end of the day I knew how to take it and respect that differences and that's what makes shrine even more fun and exciting! and HOT HOT HOT!

Oh wait I think I just killed the fun! xoxo

Yeah teddybearArial please do tell your friend how hot this thread had become. I just missed SonicAdventure, a great guy! (Now that's 3 rabbits there) :p



I dunno if you spotted it, but I tiped my post before you edit yours with the "growling" line.

I think you and I are connected at this right moment. Haha. Oh, you... ! Ok, I switch off or it is my brain that will disconnect.

Geez, how did I missed this!!

Wow. I'd sooner listen to two hours of John Williams singing in the shower than listen to that again.

i was expecting more from the score so it was a big letdown for me. however this won't deter me from watching the film and maybe on the film's context the score did workout well? remains to be seen imo.

Have we got a decent quality version yet, or are all you professional music critics still listening to the 160kbps version? *chuckles to self*

chuckles AT biggs. Why would I have to be a "professional" critic to know whether I like a score? A better quality rip won't change the fact that I just don't care for the album. But, yea, I have a better quality rip. I had this days ago, from a completely different source, as I suggested in a different thread. Even a lossless copy did not change my mind. I kept 4 tracks of the deluxe for my compilation, ditched the rest. I listened 4 times through, the last just last night with the version posted here, while discussing the tracks with other members. My feelings on it never changed. Well, they did. On the first pass I wasn't gonna keep any tracks. And no, I did not post as my source asked me not to. Still says no. So, I gutted, converted to mp3 and deleted. But, still, even at a better rip, no I did not care for it much. Perhaps a "professional" critic can convince me I am wrong, and that I actually liked it even though I thought I didn't. Who knows.

Ah, but to answer your highly and unnecessarily sarcastic insul...err..comment, yes. Yes better copies are around. Yes, flac copies are around and have been (for me and my sources anyway) since last Thurs or so, so glad I could help you with that.

Glad you liked my quote there. Doesn't mean I am wrong, or you are right, or vice versa. Just because I do not particularly like something you personally feel is worth tearing up over, does not mean you get to be a prattling ass towards me.

NOR does it mean I can be a bitch. Sorry. Tired and wrong.

What a hilarious and ridiculous overreaction... Thanks for the heads-up on the better qualities, I'll prolly just wait for mine to arrive in the post.

I know. I already apologised in the post above. I am sorry. Tired, but no excuse. I do know for a fact that good copies are around. They will be harder to find with a dozen of these rips floating around now. The album sounds fine quality wise.

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But, I am curious as to why it so rattles you that I have had no emotional connection to the score. Why is that so hard to believe? And why is it ok for you to scorn me, but not I you? Whe do I have to feel I am stupid for not feeling it the way you do?

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For instance. Sorei is my very best friend. Now I really dislike this score. She is quite fond of it. We tease each other, but not once has our opinions of each other changed because of that. Sparktank clearly adores the score. He does not call me stupid or mock me, nor I him. What the hell is wrong with us that ...ah fuck it. I'm out.

Lockdown, Granny etc, my pm's are open again for now. Shortly. Anyone who truly wants to be friends, or at least a friendly contact, send me a message.

Don't feed each other's egos.

Each one his feelings, experience, reasons. Wich are all what makes an opinion. Nobody has to tell you what you have to feel.

... Wait !.... How's that you have no emotional connection to the score ? How's it possible ?!!

Well when everyone's score arrives in the mail, your FLAC will be useless. I'm pretty sure there's a rule about continually bragging about something you have but can't/won't share it. It comes off as very rude to me.

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This week I will be posting Hans Zimmer scores you've probably never heard.

I put on James Newton Howard's score for After Earth and my headache is gone.

I don't care if you do or don't like the score... music is personal, affects everyone in different ways. But the lexicon you use is utterly ridiculous and the particular quote I reference is symptomatic of your general tone in this thread and many others... Suggest going back and reviewing a lot of what you (and these other "critics") bash out on the keyboard comes across as self-indulgent, passive-aggressive tripe. If you don't like the score, fine... you've made your point, move on. But saying stuff like "my high school had better music" or whatever the next allegorical rant you go on just makes you look really really really immature and silly.

I could literally predict peoples opinions towards a Gregson-Williams or Zimmer score around here, makes it a utterly depressing place to come and a good reason why I'm at 200 posts and not 10,000 like you. Music evokes passionate responses, likes and dislikes... it's how you moderate that passion within the discussion. There's a reason why his music connects with so many people... and cultured, music loving people. Yes, it's not John Williams. It was never SUPPOSED to be John Williams. That argument is so tired. Go and see the film. As many have said, the music in many ways is a reflection of the tone of the film, should it work as a stand-alone score? Absolutely, but it's not Bach... and it never will be. It's modern film composing... it will resonate with many for that very reason and if you don't enjoy it, don't buy it... but you don't need to be a drama queen either.

Finally, you can scorn me all you like. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. My love for music, whatever it is, is always personal... as I'm sure yours is. Difference is; I don't feel the need to belt out essays, call people assholes and when people like something that I don't nor do I tell them my highschool had better music*, which is asinine at best, utterly obnoxious at worst, which is why I can't take you seriously as a critic or music score lover. I have no idea who the other folks are attacking whomever for what reason, but if you want to be on the right side of the discussion? Be the bigger person. Humble Pie is best tasted by everyone.



*Remember, you said it.

I think we need to wait to put sound to visuals before we judge. Remember Zimmer loves subtext.

I don't care if you do or don't like the score... music is personal, affects everyone in different ways. But the lexicon you use is utterly ridiculous and the particular quote I reference is symptomatic of your general tone in this thread and many others... Suggest going back and reviewing a lot of what you (and these other "critics") bash out on the keyboard comes across as self-indulgent, passive-aggressive tripe. If you don't like the score, fine... you've made your point, move on. But saying stuff like "my high school had better music" or whatever the next allegorical rant you go on just makes you look really really really immature and silly.

I could literally predict peoples opinions towards a Gregson-Williams or Zimmer score around here, makes it a utterly depressing place to come and a good reason why I'm at 200 posts and not 10,000 like you. Music evokes passionate responses, likes and dislikes... it's how you moderate that passion within the discussion. There's a reason why his music connects with so many people... and cultured, music loving people. Yes, it's not John Williams. It was never SUPPOSED to be John Williams. That argument is so tired. Go and see the film. As many have said, the music in many ways is a reflection of the tone of the film, should it work as a stand-alone score? Absolutely, but it's not Bach... and it never will be. It's modern film composing... it will resonate with many for that very reason and if you don't enjoy it, don't buy it... but you don't need to be a drama queen either.

Finally, you can scorn me all you like. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. My love for music, whatever it is, is always personal... as I'm sure yours is. Difference is; I don't feel the need to belt out essays, call people assholes and when people like something that I don't nor do I tell them my highschool had better music*, which is asinine at best, utterly obnoxious at worst, which is why I can't take you seriously as a critic or music score lover. I have no idea who the other folks are attacking whomever for what reason, but if you want to be on the right side of the discussion? Be the bigger person. Humble Pie is best tasted by everyone.



*Remember, you said it.

'Twas a **joke**, as were the other many sundry things I said yesterday. Most. Not all but most. I keep saying, discussing the score on it's merits is not ranting, nor is it bashing. I have not "bashed" any Zimmer score. I have very specifically said I approach his with the same attitude I do any other. I am just as harsh on Horner's Spiderman, and Williams' last 2 as I am on this. So what? Am I bashing Horner? No. Amazing Spiderman disappoints me on almost every level. So? Hyperbole can serve humor quite well. I will not apologize for that. IF you had read any of my posts earlier today, I have clearly said all this already. I have clearly stated my opinion that William's scoring style would never fit this movie. I havce agreed it likely works better in the film. So I don't see why I am being told what I have already stated. You need to seperate the members posting. Not all of us who dislike the score are saying "it's not williams".

music hath charms to soothe the savage breast

William Congreve 1697


... So, this thread is obviously not about music. lol

Each one his feelings, experience, reasons. Wich are all what makes an opinion. Nobody has to tell you what you have to feel...


I would choose not to put more fire on this one but what i do quoted says it all. And if I may add the issue is not a personal disgusts on Zimmer but his current line of works, heck in my personal opinion I would even pick Harry Gregson-Williams, Klaus Badelt, or Lorne Balfe over Zimmer. I think it's best to leave the discussion on the topic and never on people per se.

? Music.? What? WHY would I talk about music?

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Anyhoo, yea. Like I said, I have nothing more to say on the score.

BTW, yes, mentioning flac and shit is rude as hell. It is intentionally obnoxious and vindictive. I have explained to those whose opinions I care about, well some, but yes it is deliberate and aimed directly at members here. I wanna be the bigger person, but then I remember what a fucking cunt I am, and I just can't stop myself.

You're addicted to posting. Go read something fabulous, I dunno. Stop the argument in your head. ;)

**if only I could**

The hallucinations are SO bad, and the voices so mean, wanting me to hurt myself, it is severely affecting me. I...am sorry I am letting this spill over. I am trying to right myself, but this is literally the only human contact I have. I try to stay away, I know I am being disruptive and am all over the map. I am sorry to everyone, and beg your forgiveness, please. Please just forgive me, and if you can, try to grant me a little patience. I am trying really hard, and new meds will be starting as of tonight. PLease, you guys mean the world to me and **please** try to bear with me?

**if only I could**


Ahh, of course I'm not in your situation. But I'm just learning myself that we can much more than we use to imagine. But we need to stay creative for that, and that can be a tough lesson to handle... It generally is. :)

Since we're on the Zimmer subject again...I can't wait for Lone Ranger.

**if only I could**
Have you tried candle therapy? Some scented lighted candle could ease up tensions while relaxing. It might help you calm and soothe your body away from further stresses.


Since we're on the Zimmer subject again...I can't wait for Lone Ranger.
I hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as this one...and I will no longer expound on that matter just to be safe.

... just to be safe.

Afraid to be shot through the screen ? lol.

... But yeah, save your time, and your soul. (What am I doing here btw ?... oh yeah, pm's).

Dunno. I wonder what he did with it? It surely won't face the type of expectation of MOS? Action western How does he tend to approach those? Speaking of MOS, a rip claiming to be mp3 320 is at Paradox....

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Until we get someone we KNOW posting, it is gonna be frustrating trying to figure which post is real, and which is transcode. This will quickly get **so** much more frustrating. These transcodes will survive out there for years.

Afraid to be shot through the screen ? lol.

... .
Maybe. xoxo. No not really. It could wait. It might be better considering it would be western? Hopefully (to be positive) :p

Since we're on the Zimmer subject again...I can't wait for Lone Ranger.

NOOOOOOOO!!! PLEASE MAKE IT STOP ;)

NOOOOOOOO!!! PLEASE MAKE IT STOP ;)

Oh no! LoL

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/lol.gif

Or this:

Actually, funny as it is, our antics are likely to derail this too far. We risk irritating mods. I suggest............**squirrel!!**

... I'm on topic. So far.

Or this:



Man of the Hour!

... But that thread would make him feel like a lone ranger.

Sorry.

...And we will have another possible hot and explosive thread in the making...

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md7vzhmLfc1qlxz13.gif

I'm pretty sure there's a rule about continually bragging about something you have but can't/won't share it. It comes off as very rude to me.[

I like the sound of that. There are some people here (who shall rename nameless, but consider themselves something more than everyone else) who say "I have this, but no, cannot share so don't ask". Those are the people who need to think before they put their words on screen, because it's simply....stupid. And to quote myself from earlier, "stupidity should be painful"

Found this 320kbps edition. But I don't have the software to check if it is not an upconvert: [email protected] (215,76 MB) - uploaded.net (http://uploaded.net/file/mestsm8o)

After having been listening to the score 3 times, I think that the most frustrating aspects are:
.The fullfillment of gaps throughout the score with just noisy sounds
.The lack of developement of the very few themes; like the piano motif or even the heroic part that appears at the end of "tornado" which could have been far more developed latter or even " Goodbye my son" which ends up too abruptly.
.The overuse of drums so that the music seems to have been made for a movie occuring in the prehistoric era and not for a super hero.
I don't compare MOS with Williams's work, I don't see the point but I do compare it with Batman Begins and on the latter Zimmer seemed far more commited with a guideline made of various very interesting themes. Here it sounds as if he didnt understand what the fuck he was doing. "Ok I have a theme, it sounds good on my piano, let's use some drums and it should be ok.
Maybe Zimmer should think about being alone without 10 additional composers. At least we don't have "Man of Steel featuring Rihanna" or "This is Clark Kent DJ Tiesto Remix"

.

Can someone check if this is a transcode or not: https://mega.co.nz/#!olMlEbjY!OSiqxUPCkWS9JHlcCfRU-GjmbtZbB21u-TUIRlxWFLU (6.3 MB)

still no FLAC huh?

I wonder what it was like when Batman Begins came out, considering Danny Elfmans scores

Yeah, could someone please check that 320 link posted above?

Yeah, could someone please check that 320 link posted above?

I have uploaded one song of it so people don't have to download the whole 250 MB.

It's threads like this that make me want to say one thing:










FUCK HANS ZIMMER

Found this 320kbps edition. But I don't have the software to check if it is not an upconvert: [email protected] (215,76 MB) - uploaded.net (http://uploaded.net/file/mestsm8o)
Right click -> Properties tells me: It's all 256 kbps

Right click -> Properties tells me: It's all 256 kbps

You gotta smile really :)

edit

Thanks a lot!!

Thanks for the links.

Hans Zimmer - Man of Steel (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) [Deluxe Edition] [AAC]
Watertower Music / Deluxe Edition / WEB / AAC / 256

https://mega.co.nz/#!AQtAGAQL!CGtwCBxFiK7bNuLmQQdP8x7-vkFelUT6-4_Mbx9O2Cs
guessing the one is iTunes .. lets hope for the flac today :P

Hans Zimmer - Man of Steel (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) [Deluxe Edition] [AAC]
Watertower Music / Deluxe Edition / WEB / AAC / 256

https://mega.co.nz/#!AQtAGAQL!CGtwCBxFiK7bNuLmQQdP8x7-vkFelUT6-4_Mbx9O2Cs
guessing the one is iTunes .. lets hope for the flac today :P

Thank you - this is what I've been waiting for!

Hans Zimmer - Man of Steel (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) [Deluxe Edition] [AAC]
Watertower Music / Deluxe Edition / WEB / AAC / 256

https://mega.co.nz/#!AQtAGAQL!CGtwCBxFiK7bNuLmQQdP8x7-vkFelUT6-4_Mbx9O2Cs
guessing the one is iTunes .. lets hope for the flac today :P

Now we are talking. Thank you.

Thanks to Lilu, Here is another Mirror: Man of Steel Itunes Version - M4A AAC 256k - 118:19 min + Digital Booklet
Steel2013.zip (232,47 MB) - uploaded.net (http://uploaded.net/file/vdoyhmbp)

Thanks Lilu

Well, I have listened to this score a few times now and It has grown on me. The closest Zimmer score I feel it resembles is Crimson Tide. There are some instances that harken back to Black Rain in terms of style (specifically General Zod's theme - if that is his theme - It bears quite a striking similarity to the Nick And Masa cue that plays right after Charlie Loses His Head, which you might remember from being used in at least 100 movie trailers in the early 90's.) I even got quite a chuckle at the Earth cue on the second disc, as it sounds like a newly discovered track from Days Of Thunder. I've been wondering for years why Zimmer doesn't go back to his style of composing from 20 years ago, and it sounds to me for Man Of Steel he finally did.

...and I thought after TDKR: "Can it get any worse?"

...and yes, he can. It's just cruel.

Well, I have listened to this score a few times now and It has grown on me. The closest Zimmer score I feel it resembles is Crimson Tide. There are some instances that harken back to Black Rain in terms of style (specifically General Zod's theme - if that is his theme - It bears quite a striking similarity to the Nick And Masa cue that plays right after Charlie Loses His Head, which you might remember from being used in at least 100 movie trailers in the early 90's.) I even got quite a chuckle at the Earth cue on the second disc, as it sounds like a newly discovered track from Days Of Thunder. I've been wondering for years why Zimmer doesn't go back to his style of composing from 20 years ago, and it sounds to me for Man Of Steel he finally did.after 16 pages of crying somebody finally got it :) you don't have to like it, but don't assume The God of modern film scoring is stupid, it simply not true :)

resurrection of his cheap and effective 90ies sound on this occasion... pure genius :)

...and I thought after TDKR: "Can it get any worse?"

...and yes, he can. It's just cruel.

To be honest, I can't hear much difference between TDKR and this. Yes, yes; that's probably a teeny-tiny exaggeration and I appreciate that many people like his work but I can't say that I'm one of them. I've yet to see the film but am sure that - like TDKR - the soundtrack will work well in that context which is, after all, what he was hired to produce. I have a growing collection of soundtracks and I listen to most of them repeatedly but I don't find Zimmer's work a particularly engaging listening experience. It's functional and fits the film for which it was written and that's about it as far as I'm concerned.

Anyhoo, for those of you who do like his work, enjoy!

You can ask Hans Zimmer anything here - I am Hans Zimmer - Ask Me Anything! : IAmA (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1g4wkt/i_am_hans_zimmer_ask_me_anything/) gogo while it's early!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151997682064128&set=a.230201354127.178112.7170054127&type=1&theater

Zimmer has produced some very fine scores. I have a small collection I kept intact. It is just I do not feel this hit the mark. I was watching Game of Thrones season 3 last night. The track on the new album called Dracarys is of a similar style to this score...percussion, synth sounds and choir, but I feel it was 10 times more effective and emotional. HOWEVER, I first heard it in the scene itself, which was a very powerful theme. So, seeing these tracks in the film could very well change the perception of them. I do not agree that this and DKR sound the same, and this is NOT far worse, I do feel it is substantially better than that. But again, I only heard the DKR score with the film. I avoided listening til then. I disliked the film quite a lot, and have little desire to hear the score now, so it works both ways.

Thank you for sharing, but since Inception... Hans Zimmer is no longer my favorite...

"Which composition of yours took the longest to complete? I love your work!"

[–]realhanszimmer[S]:

"Notes per minute? Probably the Clark Kent theme from Man of Steel because I was procrastinating for so long, trying to shake off the enormous shadow that John Williams' Superman theme cast". xD

"Which composition of yours took the longest to complete? I love your work!"

[–]realhanszimmer[S]:

"Not a clue, I'm afraid. You'd have to ask the back-room bitches who compose it all, I guess. Although, I did hear them complaining about finding the right sound for the Clark Kent theme from Man of Steel because I was procrastinating for so long, trying to shake off the enormous shadow that John Williams' Superman theme cast". Then I thought 'Sod it! Drums will work' and I was done!"

There, fixed it for ya... :-)

lol

You can ask Hans Zimmer anything here - I am Hans Zimmer - Ask Me Anything! : IAmA (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1g4wkt/i_am_hans_zimmer_ask_me_anything/) gogo while it's early!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151997682064128&set=a.230201354127.178112.7170054127&type=1&theater

1) When was the last time you have opened the door from your giant bedroom (yes, the studios) to see what the world outside looks like ?... That's what a TV magazine about you and your work made me wonder.

2) Also, do you ever listen to classical or ancient or even religious music to recycle your mind and your style, as to bring the inspiration its highest level ? (that sounds like a critic, but it's not really).

3) ... Can't you do anything about the loudness war that sign each CD release of your music ?



(Surmised replies: 1)- "no way, too busy with my sound librairies" ; 2) "no way, too busy with my composers" ; 3) "what are you talking about ?...")

yeah I dont understand the TDKR comparisons either
I'd even go as far as to say TDKR stood out more

but then again, it was helped by having 2 movies worth of history behind it

...and I thought after TDKR: "Can it get any worse?"

...and yes, he can. It's just cruel.

Take that back! The Dark knight rises is a very good score,for example Blake Visits Wayne Manor very emotional music that gives me goosebumps!! the Bane theme is a terrifying piece that works perfect for this
character Without A Rope teriffic Heroic music the whole score is perfect
This is the future how action music likes get used to it

... Thumb down yourself. (IMO) (<- let's be careful here).

I can't help but wonder if something went wrong with the way this was mixed. I actually hear distortion on the Terraforming track (sounds as if the bass is severely overdriven at one point), and this is the Google Music version so I know it's not a bad rip or anything.

I missed the Q&A. Damn It! I would have said to him how I consider Green Card one of my top 20 favorite scores and why he doesn't go back to that simple style of music. Before he got Bruckheimered that is.

I can't help but wonder if something went wrong with the way this was mixed. I actually hear distortion on the Terraforming track (sounds as if the bass is severely overdriven at one point), and this is the Google Music version so I know it's not a bad rip or anything.

here too… but it's only the itunes version
i'm still waiting for FLAC

RE: distortion in "Terraforming"

The Amazon MP3 version also has this distortion. Checked some YouTube streams of "Terraforming" and, sure enough, they have it too. Not sure if it's intentional or not, but either way I find it to be a blemish on an otherwise awesome track. The rest of the album sounds fine, though.

"Which composition of yours took the longest to complete? I love your work!"

[–]realhanszimmer[S]:

"Notes per minute? Probably the Clark Kent theme from Man of Steel because I was procrastinating for so long, trying to shake off the enormous shadow that John Williams' Superman theme cast". xD

That man is such a Bullshitter it's unreal...... Clark Kent Theme..... ha ha ha lol............. Eat it up folks because we're gonna have this shit for the next decade......

I really shouldn't comment on Zimmer while listening to Jerry Goldsmith :)

I kinda like this music. Yes, it is big on drums but we come to expect that from Zimmer. (King Arthur remains his drumming masterpiece). There is a sprinkling of new things in this score. The solo voice. The solo bass piano. And a number of moments that remind of his his exceptional score from INCEPTION. But that is to be expected. All composers drag a little of their most recent work into their new work. This is called "composed during this period". Ralph Vaughan Williams and other classical composers did the same. It is never exact copy- unless you are a Xerox machine or James Horner.

This needs repeated listening to capture the nuances. I like the 'dark theme' that appears from time to time. It seems to hint at something yet bigger and bigger and bigger... a crescendo anticipation.

Not interested in seeing the film. So this will have to be a stand alone experience for my wee furry ears.

I will always marvel at the creation of music. How sound in a person's head can be put on paper and then manifest to an audience. James Newton Howard's score for the movie SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS stunned me. It was as if they made the movie to his music, not the other way around. I can say the same for Zimmer and INCEPTION. He created music that kept you on the edge of your seat, propelling you forward with the story and making me wonder again and again "How did he come up with this stuff?"

OH. It does appear the crescendo I was expecting appears in the last track via chorus: Man of Steel. Looks like the whole sound track has been leading up to that emotional moment.

It ain't John Williams bubble gum music days no more folks. ;-)

I missed the Q&A. Damn It! I would have said to him how I consider Green Card one of my top 20 favorite scores and why he doesn't go back to that simple style of music. Before he got Bruckheimered that is.

I'll answer that for ya...... because that kind of stuff doesn't pay the bills..... :)

Things change. CHANGE. I love Korngold. I have always had a large collection of Goldsmith. In recent years I discovered Kaczmarek. Zimmer and his apostles have a style. It fluctuates. But change is good. New ideas in film scores can be exciting. Once in a while the old familiar style resurfaces and makes you feel all cozy (Water For Elephants).

We can't all like everything. But artists have to grow. Try new things. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I like that film music is very diverse today.

Makes things interesting. Arguably.

I kinda like this music. Yes, it is big on drums but we come to expect that from Zimmer. (King Arthur remains his drumming masterpiece). There is a sprinkling of new things in this score. The solo voice. The solo bass piano. And a number of moments that remind of his his exceptional score from INCEPTION. But that is to be expected. All composers drag a little of their most recent work into their new work. This is called "composed during this period". Ralph Vaughan Williams and other classical composers did the same. It is never exact copy- unless you are a Xerox machine or James Horner.

This needs repeated listening to capture the nuances. I like the 'dark theme' that appears from time to time. It seems to hint at something yet bigger and bigger and bigger... a crescendo anticipation.

Not interested in seeing the film. So this will have to be a stand alone experience for my wee furry ears.

I will always marvel at the creation of music. How sound in a person's head can be put on paper and then manifest to an audience. James Newton Howard's score for the movie SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS stunned me. It was as if they made the movie to his music, not the other way around. I can say the same for Zimmer and INCEPTION. He created music that kept you on the edge of your seat, propelling you forward with the story and making me wonder again and again "How did he come up with this stuff?"

OH. It does appear the crescendo I was expecting appears in the last track via chorus: Man of Steel. Looks like the whole sound track has been leading up to that emotional moment.

It ain't John Williams bubble gum music days no more folks. ;-)

Even with how much I suspect this score - or the release form - to be avoided by myself, that's a nice description of one experience here.

And fair enough about bubble gum days, imo.

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...I like that film music is very diverse today.


I agree only because I watch very diverse kinds of films, from very diverse countries (mostly Europe). Rarely blockbusters like this. For these I see no differences, but as you mentionned, nuances. That's a bit poor to call that "diverse".

I Like the Score my SELF...it'S new & AwSum.....can not wait for the movie......:-)

Call me crazy, but the CD/lossless version sounds infinitely better and much more natural. Terraforming is still all kinds of fucked up, though. I wish someone had mentioned that on the reddit Q&A.

Nuances help to create diversity. David Torn's very unique score for THE ORDER is filled with musical nuances that had never been tried before. The music was not to everyone's taste. I found it fascinating. Desplat is a curiosity. His sound is faint and far from bombastic. He tried being Bernard Herrmann in The Ghost Writer (and failed). But what he accomplished in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button- like the film itself- is simply lovely and delicate... moving from solo instrumentation to a full orchestra.

I always parse out music. Kaczmarek is great fun with this. The special combinations of instruments and voice- as well as his favorite pianist anchoring most his music. He has managed to create ORGASMIC heights in BLISS and the happy wag of a dog's tail in Hachiko.

James Newton Howard seemed for a while to be a chameleon. He created the SOUND OF MOUNTAINS in Vertical Limit. And as I wrote before his score for SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS is amazing, so absolutely entwined with its picture postcard visuals. Which came first? The chicken or the egg?

Never the less, none of us really HATE a composer or HATE this or that music. It comes down to it simply doesn't satisfy our ears. It doesn't resonate. It is personal. Even a well beloved composer comes up with duds and some music we enjoyed ten years ago we have long out grown.

But we can not drive a dagger into the heart of something we have not seen or have not heard.

Now who wants to play a game of Twister? Amanda? ;-)

Call me crazy, but the CD/lossless version sounds infinitely better and much more natural. Terraforming is still all kinds of fucked up, though. I wish someone had mentioned that on the reddit Q&A.

did you get your cd?!?
any chance you could up that? :D

aaaaand you ain't crazy! i believe ya…
the "iron man 3" score sounded way better lossless than the fucked up aac.

I'll answer that for ya...... because that kind of stuff doesn't pay the bills..... :)

I think he's in a position where he doesn't have to worry about bills ever again. Even Thomas Newman does the little movie every now and then.

Even Thomas Newman does the little movie every now and then.

yeah BUT they also sound like it�
except for "The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel" but that's technically not a small movie

... But we can not drive a dagger into the heart of something we have not seen or have not heard.


... Who did ?


... Which came first? The chicken or the egg?

Logicaly...

Not getting the massive hate on this one. I'm not a huge fan of Zimmer, and this sounds about what I'd have expected him to come up with; certainly in the vein of his recent output that people seem to clamor over. It's not like he was suddenly going to spurt out a Korngoldian symphonic masterwork just because he's following up John Williams.

Williams's Superman has rightfully held its place over the decades, and I think that in terms of depth and complexity his work far exceeds this, and I'd imagine that Hans Zimmer would agree. But this is kind of like prog rock Superman, and I'm kind of liking it.

Looking forward to the film this weekend.

I've decided to hold off until seeing the film before listening to the music this time. I'm going this weekend so I'll have plenty of time to check it out. If I don't leave the theater clamoring for the score I'll just let it sit out there for others to enjoy.

I'm gonna be posting some actually good Zimmer scores. Stay tuned.

We need a reup of the 320 deluxe.

I'm gonna be posting some actually good Zimmer scores. Stay tuned.

I think you'll find anything by him has already been posted a number of times on here, so why clutter up the forum with material that's already available?

Everything I'm going to be posting is in lossless, and I'm not posting stuff like Pirates of the Caribbean or anything, so I hope these will be at least upgrades, from previous posts.

...and I thought after TDKR: "Can it get any worse?"

...and yes, he can. It's just cruel.

Confirmed.

And so I was back fresh from one of the earliest screening in asia and I did had a good time watching this current reincarnation of Superman. The story is good. The action scenes are wonders to behold but the only thing that really fails is like I first feared the music by Mr. Zimmer. Other than that this Snyder outing is an action packed blockbuster that fans who clamor for an epic Superman fight scenes to see is the real deal. Zimmer should stay out of the way next time hopefully so that more talented composer could stir it at the right direction and no more drum rolls please!

Confirmed.

And so I was back fresh from one of the earliest screening in asia and I did had a good time watching this current reincarnation of Superman. The story is good. The action scenes are wonders to behold but the only thing that really fails is like I first feared the music by Mr. Zimmer. Other than that this Snyder outing is an action packed blockbuster that fans who clamor for an epic Superman fight scenes to see is the real deal. Zimmer should stay out of the way next time hopefully so that more talented composer could stir it at the right direction and no more drum rolls please!


I agree....... but Zimmer will be involved with the sequel unless this film bombs which I can�t see happening and if not Zimmer it�ll be one of his clones...... :(

Personally I didn�t like the film...... it reminded me of watching Transformers..... all spectacle with no heart .......

Take that back! ...
No...


for example Blake Visits Wayne Manor very emotional music that gives me goosebumps!!
Goosebumps? Then please close the window ... The whole thing is probably very limited,something psychedelic...


the Bane theme...
The problem is ... there is no theme. All that stuff is at best generic sound. Domo arigato mr. roboto.

but Zimmer will be involved with the sequel unless this film bombs which I can�t see happening and if not Zimmer it�ll be one of his clones......
But who knows? It's still early to tell perhaps by that time Snyder finally decides to try out somebody else or some scheduling conflict arises? LoL. Just Wishful thinking. If not we could have a big deep, Sigh... to that!

And now, an exclusive SyFy "Experiece":

THE THREAD THAT COULD NOT STAY DEAD.........:awsm:

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THE THREAD THAT COULD NOT STAY DEAD.........:awsm:

Not only will it stay undead...It's multiplying like a bunch of gremlins after being soaked into a bucket of water!! :D

This movie is simply fantastic and so is this score by Zimmer. This sits as the best superhero movie as of now.

I hope the complete scoring Session comes out soon here

This movie is simply fantastic and so is this score by Zimmer. This sits as the best superhero movie as of now.

*Whispers to self while rocking back and forth*

It's just an opinion. It's just an opinion. It's just. An. Opinion.........

Yes, sessions would be very welcomed. i thought the score was amazing, stellar, a masterpiece before seeing the movie. now that i also heard it in context, it sits among the giants.

But, as mentioned before, Williams' themes, and that style, will not work with the type of film this is going to be. Looking at trailers and sneak peeks, this film is much darker and more action oriented, with a more modern style of editing. The classic 70 & 80's Williams would fail miserably in a film like this, I think.

Great OST IMHO. Clearly, Williams music would have sounded outdate. Zimmer write modern music for modern movies . that's not a bad thing

still no complete score release for this one. Rather weird isn't it ?

Has someone already posted this? Cuesheet from Hans-Zimmer.com



KRYPTON
ZOD DESBANDS COUNCIL
THE CODEX
SURRENDER THE CODEX
GOODBYES / LAUNCH PREPARATION
THE LAUNCH
ZOD IS CAPTURED
KRYPTON DESTROYED / KAL TO EARTH
OIL RIG RESCUE
YOUNG CLARK FREAKS
BUS RESCUE PT 1
BUS RESCUE PT 2
I JUST WANTED TO HELP
ON THE ROAD AGAIN / MEET LOIS
LOIS INVESTIGATES
THE SCOUT SHIP
THE SCOUT SHIP TAKES OFF
FIRST FLIGHT
HOMECOMING
WHO ARE YOU?
THE TORNADO
THE ANOMALY
UFO / YOU ARE NOT ALONE
LOIS ARRESTED
WHATS ON YOUR MIND?
WHO IS THIS KAL PERSON?
SURRENDER TO FAORA
LOIS AND SUPERMAN BROUGHT BEFORE ZOD
ZOD�S STORY PT 1
ZOD�S STORY PT 2
ESCAPE FROM SHIP
ALIEN SHIPS HEAD TO KANSAS
SUPERMAN RESCUES MOTHER / SMALLVILLE
BATTLE CONTINUES
THIS MAN IS NOT OUR ENEMY
RELEASE THE WORLD ENGINE
ALIEN SHIP ARRIVES
TERRAFORMING
WE HAVE A PLAN / WORLD ENGINE
DESTROY THIS SHIP/FAORA ATTACKS
WE DID IT
KISS
FINAL CONFRONTATION
CLARK KENT � REPORTER

Thanks for this1

thank you ^^

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Hans Zimmer - Man of Steel (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) [Deluxe Edition] [AAC]
Watertower Music / Deluxe Edition / WEB / AAC / 256

https://mega.co.nz/#!AQtAGAQL!CGtwCBxFiK7bNuLmQQdP8x7-vkFelUT6-4_Mbx9O2Cs
guessing the one is iTunes .. lets hope for the flac today :P



Thank you ^^

I agree....... but Zimmer will be involved with the sequel unless this film bombs which I can�t see happening and if not Zimmer it�ll be one of his clones...... :(

Personally I didn�t like the film...... it reminded me of watching Transformers..... all spectacle with no heart .......

With Batman in the picture for the sequel, Zimmer is now doubtful about a return. So let's hope we get a fresh new direction for the franchise :)

But just to be clear, I did not think the movie or the score were terrible, they just could have been better. Zimmers work for Rush was slightly superior I feel

Has someone already posted this? Cuesheet from Hans-Zimmer.com

Is this an official list? If so, it just made my day. Looks like there is a complete score out there after all. =)