Amanda
03-17-2013, 09:56 AM
For members in the dl forum who thought free sharing of music was encouraged, guess again. For mods (looking at you Sanico) who tried to tell me trading was bad and not allowed, guess what. We have seen many leaks this week. I am being blamed for all of them. ALL. I did not do one of them, but nonetheless I am being held accountable. By whom do you ask? How can that be, no one owns the music, and no rules were broken. Wrong. Their rules. Rules that say these links had better stop. I was messaged by a user TJThemes on soulseek and chastised for this. I said it was not me, but whatever. So I present the textbin doc he intended to post. You will see just how free our music really is. If you believe this, fuck you. Those who still wish to be friends, friend request me. Here is what he says:




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I didn't want to have to do this, but these latest leaks were the final straw. Amanda (aka kgray and phoenix2010) is the source of all of these leaks. Some of you probably already made the connection or had your suspicions, but I feel that it needs to be said. Notice how Amanda always turns up in these threads with something to say, usually with something negative about the whole aspect of trading.

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How do I know all of this? You see... Amanda is a bit of an elitist and a moderator of a secret scores forum called Jigsaw Reborn. Google it. She is one of 6 people (1 admin: jigasw and 5 moderators: sorei, mandi, machionic, bishtyboshty and NoMoReMrNiCeGuy) who have a private section for "exclusive shares" among those 6. They also have a regular section for the rest of members (around 30-35 total). Many of the members there are also members here at FF Shrine from what I can tell. The regular members of that forum probably do not even realize there is an even a more private forum. I'm sure that's something they don't like to talk about how the operation is truly run. This freely hosted forum seems more protected than Fort Knox. They have all kinds of rules that you can't even mention the name of the forum or url to anybody. You have to be personally invited to be a member there. There are also rules that you must ask the original uploader for permission to share what they give you. That one seems to be loosely enforced.

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Amanda (aka kgray) started with her spree of leaks on January 24 with the Flyboys Recording Sessions. Over the next 2 days, she would post Backdraft, The Last Airbender (posted in vbr originally but then "Amanda" came back to say she had it in flac), Vertical Limit, Signs, The Happening, The Karate Kid, Gladiator and Salt. She claims she downloaded all of these on Soulseek, but that was a blatant lie among many that she gave. These were shared privately on Jigsaw Reborn. How do I know it was Amanda who posted these? Besides being given the same information from other reliable sources, I did my own independent investigation. Look at kgray's post history and compare it to Amanda's. There is a similar posting style. You'll see a style of posting the title in all caps. kgray refers to scorepranos as "scorepranoes" the same way Amanda did. Perhaps the most damning evidence is this particular thread. Here Amanda (as kgray) posts a NCIS promo she had compiled from various sources. In that very thread and a year and half later, Amanda claims that original compiliation was hers. Many of kgray's earlier threads are TV scores or James Horner, all of which she is known to love.

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Amanda then took a bit of a breather from her kgray name. You'll notice there are no other posts from that name after January 29. On March 14, it was time for her to leak Wyatt Earp. This time it was under the name phoenix 2010 (Amanda is from the Phoenix area, isn't she?). Again, look at the post history. This account has largely been inactive and then boom goes the dynamite...they suddenly have Wyatt Earp to share? Who is Amanda kidding here? I had already confronted her as being kgray.. but she wasn't done posting. She had this other name in her back pocket.

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I'm not bothered with sharing things with a small group of friends. I know it's done. I had all of these already, so it didn't personally affect me. My issues is the way she went about it. She cowardly hid behind other names to do the dirty work. She knew all these things were not to be shared publicly, yet she did it anyway. She was put in a position of trust, yet she couldn't be trusted. I'm bothered by some of the things she said and how it makes her look like a hypocrite. She had no concern whatsoever with what she did. Her cavalier and taunting attitude irks me.

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"People like to see scorpranos (or others) as a hero, bringing treasures." - Yes, he is a hero and a nice dude. Amanda has already said he hates him. Why are there so many ungrateful pricks on here? I do see some appreciation from many, but there is also a lot of needless bitching about the quality (waaah where's the FLAC?), missing tracks (this is missing the third alternate without the guitar riff), etc. He's not beholden to share any of this stuff with you. I doubt he gets any real satisfaction of even sharing here. If he is the original source for these, then I believe he has the choice of who gets them and when that happens. If he wants to trade these for other things he wants, that should be his right.

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Here are a few of her choice quotes, with my thoughts after them:

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"I know this cuts me off. I KNEW that before I started. You think I am not aware, but i am, fully, and did it anyway." - What did it cut her off from exactly? She's still a moderator there. No sources have cut her off apparently. She did nothing on her own to get any of these. They were "gifted" to her.

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"This music was never intended to be posted here. They had no intention at all of letting you have it. So I post, no music. I don't post, no music. I'd rather get you what I can. Fuck them. And fuck scorpranos for trying to keep it to himself. Right up his ass." - She had this music and was in some cases sitting on it for months. Did she suddenly want to become a hero? Why didn't she post them on her Amanda username? Do you think that would have elevated to her rock star status or would it have pissed people off? If he didn't intend to share it, why did he privately give it to so many people? I was shocked how many people already had these.

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"Anyhoo. all antagonism aside, I consider this the anti-elite movement. Anything I get, I will post. If links go down, pm me, and I will guarantee you a link. Understand, scorpranos, I am not beholden to you. I don't like you. If it bothers you, all the more reason to post it. Will you get in trouble? I...don't..care. Free forum, pirate forum my call." - I guess she considers herself a modern day Robin Hood by taking from the rich and giving to the poor. She simply doesn't give a damn about anybody but herself. What a self-centered bitch.

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"Yes, yes you do. See folks, these "rare" scores are kept in inner circles. To hold onto, so a trade can be made. Some have traded rare stuff for them, some have even spent money on them. They claim that this is how the trades keep happening, and this is true. For those in these circles. My understanding is that these are not really as "rare" as we have been told, some have been around for a while. So the trades only continued for them, not us. Now, their work, trades, and spent cash are useless for these, and they are upset. Upset they cannot be used as leverage since we, the simple folk too dumb to understand politics now have them to listen to." - An inner circle kinda like Jigsaw Reborn, eh? Pot meet kettle.

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Look at her current signature:

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"I do not participate in the score trading business. If I have something i can share, I share it openly and freely. If I have something I cannot share, I do not, under any conditions. In fact, I just don't discuss it at all. So, it is never a matter of what I want. If I have something you want, and it is mine to share, I give it. I NEVER trade, sell or buy."

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These are again all blatant lies, except for the selling and buying part. Not only does she discuss them and share them amongst her friends and here (look at all the chatter she did about The Perfect Storm), she has no problem leaking them publicly. She didn't have anybody's permission to post these things. I wonder how the Jigsaw Reborn "staff" feels about the leaks. Were they even aware it was her? It would be hard for me to imagine that they didn't have at least some knowledge of what was happening right under their eyes. From what I heard through the grapevine, they did have some knowledge she was the leaker . They only kept her around for what she brought to the table and were afraid she was going to leak even more. Go figure.

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Everything I said in this thread is 100% true. I have multiple sources to back me up on how it transpired. Congratulations Amanda on the ****storm you created. I hope it was worth it to you. You must not have thought you would be caught. If you don't like how the trading game is played, then don't play it. Talk about being a hypocrite. Who is the elitist? Amanda has a big mouth and likes to talk. It will be interesting to see how she responds. I'll be waiting for her to leak Apollo 13, The Perfect Storm and all her other "treasures".


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Now. EVEN were it true, I did not break any site rules. But i can say nothing posted this week was done by me. I can say I am not a mod at jigsaw, and I can say there is no exclusive section there. None of these scores were posted there. Some were, that would have been most welcome here though. Tempted though I may be I will not now leak everything under the sun. Christ on a stick.

Sanico, see. No fun experience, no free sharing of music or enjoyment. No personal boundaries or care. It is like I have been taken to court, yet by whom. By what right. Scorprano's bitches? He really is a little pussy id he can't talk directly to me.

JHFan
03-17-2013, 10:36 AM
Not that I want to be directly involved, since all of this elitist / trading bullshit doesn't mean anything to me. I'm more concerned about real-world problems like being able to eat dinner and I'm going to be on the street soon if I can't get a room for rent, but I had to ask just out of curiosity:

What the fuck is this?

Is the entire existence of places like ffshrine and others like it NOT based on the practice of LEAKING SCORES?

As for TJThemes, well...I thought Mr. 1969 was all kinds of paranoid but Mr. Themes takes the top prize.

I don't know what to think or believe, but this drama is so fucking laughable to me it makes me wonder if anyone here (like TJ or anyone else whose names he dragged into the mud) has any real issues or just virtual ones because for anyone to send that kind of post to Amanda linking a bunch of conspiracies together reeks of having far too much time on one's hands, regardless of how true or false any of it is.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 11:07 AM
It's really late, I have taken mymeds and a not-so-fair amount of drink. But remember, they think we are idiots. They have nothing but contempt for us and use fear of never getting leaks we want to keep us doing things their way.Fear to keep their contacts in line. Booga booga.

theodred27
03-17-2013, 11:08 AM
That guy must come from NCIS, he has done a clever investigation.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 11:14 AM
Secret sharing mascot shakes voovoo magic stick says *8booga booga boo**

Despair
03-17-2013, 11:17 AM
1-28: Attention you shouldn't give to someone who doesn't matter

no u (Should've been your response)

bollemanneke
03-17-2013, 11:17 AM
What I don't understand is that people here are convinced that the site rules are divine and that any other rules can be blatantly ignored. Why can't you live with the idea that you won't get EVERYTHING THERE IS TO HAVE HERE? And I repeat, the only reason why trades happen here is because this is the only site so large where soundtrack lovers come together.

As for Amanda being phoenix, I don't know, but I must say it's not the first time I hear the association Amanda-Kgray. If you know you're pissing people off by leaking, why the hell do it in the first place? What's so special about sharing rare sessions with people you absolutely don't know at all? And yes, I said rare sessions... Now that I'm at it anyway, people who bitch about others collecting rare stuff because it's rare make me SICK. They only collect rare things in the hope of getting a rare wish themselves one day and are not obliged at all to share things with the whole world just because they are gonna make some individuals happy by doing so.

As for scorepranos: he knows what to leak when. He pisses people off occasionally, but that's fine. On theo ther hand, leaking nine sessions in two days using different account names is disgusting. Scorepranos himself posted he'd get into trouble, and kgray (or amanda or whoever) didn't give a shit. What kind of person is kgray then? A git. If the sole purpose was destroying trading circles, it's even more absurd! Why does everyone despises trading here? I'll have you know that sharing scores hasn't stopped! YOu just don't get any sessoin you want here. No one forbids you to trade yourself, you know, but people who can't get in circles and then whine about how trading is bad are just weak.

Rant over.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 11:21 AM
Wiggles fingers

**these aren't the scores you're looking for**

My response won't matter. Whether I am guilty or not. Friends will still be friends or not.I am pointing out their systematic need to destroy anyone who does not play by their arbitrary rules.

**fear will keep those systems in line. Fear of scorpussy's wrath**

JHFan
03-17-2013, 11:23 AM
They canceled CSI: Miami at the wrong time. We need Horatio Caine on this shit. He'll sort it out, say something snappy, unleash his Sunglasses of Justice and shoot some fools.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 11:25 AM
**He always shoots fools**

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-17-2013, 11:26 AM
What I don't understand is that people here are convinced that the site rules are divine and that any other rules can be blatantly ignored. Why can't you live with the idea that you won't get EVERYTHING THERE IS TO HAVE HERE?
The underlined text could apply to all those trading-circles, too. Who the heck do they think they are? They're not the only human beings on this planet, heh. Their rules are as important as ours. Someone who "screws" you over, regardless of such act being intentional or not, shows up eventually... Grow a pair, or braincells and deal with it. And, in regards to the question at the end: why don't you direct it at yourself, or those goddamn brats who cry like Hell is being unleashed every time a leak happens? Somebody blocked you from having access to bits of music, hell, it's the end of the world. Grow up.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 11:27 AM
So why do I owe people i don't know anything. It is one thing if a friend says not to share, but why do I worry when I find something, whether it is ok to anyone else i share? What the fuck has happened to you people?

JHFan
03-17-2013, 11:28 AM
I have something to share:



















































































I shot the Sheriff.

I also shot the Deputy.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 11:31 AM
You bad boy......**mandi needs another drink**
They make my sleep meds better...:)

Despair
03-17-2013, 11:33 AM
So....let me get this straight. People are berating you (again) because some "rare unofficial underground hardcore xxx super ultra platinum microscopic scrumdidlyumptious" shit got released so now some ponces can't use it as leverage to get other things they want from more ponces who use things like that as leverage?

JHFan
03-17-2013, 11:33 AM
I can't help it. I have to laugh at these things because this online drama is just so silly to me.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 11:34 AM
We can't have everything we want. Right, right. So just who is it who decides that? What asswipe thinks he can control what illegally obtained material can then be pirated. Insane. I say again, if your JOB, or PERSONAL SAFETY are at risk obtaining these, then simply don't do it. Eventually someone is going to break ranks. If you have that much at stake you have no business doing it.

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-17-2013, 11:35 AM
So....let me get this straight. People are berating you (again) because some "rare unofficial underground hardcore xxx super ultra platinum microscopic scrumdidlyumptious" shit got released so now some ponces can't use it as leverage to get other things they want from more ponces who use things like that as leverage?
Yes, you pretty much nailed it. That's the issue in a nutshell, or... well... the main concern. If this stuff becomes not rare before "the proper time" [sarcasm], they go cry to mommy because they won't have access to the rest.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 11:38 AM
So....let me get this straight. People are berating you (again) because some "rare unofficial underground hardcore xxx super ultra platinum microscopic scrumdidlyumptious" shit got released so now some ponces can't use it as leverage to get other things they want from more ponces who use things like that as leverage?


Yes. But not here anymore. They just pop onto the soulseek chat box and berate me. For hours on end. I guess. **tis a mystery**

I'd laugh, but i did not do these links. Meh. what ever. Apparently I need the attention. Why everyone knows I share just to get attention, right folks. ALL of you with whom I have ever shared and spoke to. Have I daid, give unto me thanks?

or

Have I said happy to help, just love sharing?

That is why they hate me. I **love** to share, with strangers, for no other reason. I get no tangible benefit, and they think that's "sick". It scares the bejesus outta them.

*booga booga stick man**

JHFan
03-17-2013, 11:38 AM
We can't have everything we want. Right, right. So just who is it who decides that? What asswipe thinks he can control what illegally obtained material can then be pirated. Insane. I say again, if your JOB, or PERSONAL SAFETY are at risk obtaining these, then simply don't do it. Eventually someone is going to break ranks. If you have that much at stake you have no business doing it.

I can't....I just...can't....argue with that logic. Makes sense to me!

Personal safety is a joke though. That's a bunch of bullshit. It's not like people are stealing sessions of some rap dickhead's album where he can sick his "dawgs" on them.


Yes, you pretty much nailed it. That's the issue in a nutshell, or... well... the main concern. If this stuff becomes not rare before "the proper time" [sarcasm], they go cry to mommy because they won't have access to the rest.

That seems to be the bitch of it every time. Mine is dead. Can't cry to her or anyone else.

JHFan
03-17-2013, 11:39 AM
Turn the chat shit off. Ignore the users who get in your face.

Problem solved.

Despair
03-17-2013, 11:42 AM
Yes, you pretty much nailed it. That's the issue in a nutshell, or... well... the main concern. If this stuff becomes not rare before "the proper time" [sarcasm], they go cry to mommy because they won't have access to the rest.

.....Look if you don't like the music you shouldn't bother having it. And if your only reason for having it is using it as leverage to get more shit, then you're an idiot. If you want to release something then do it, if you don't, then don't, but there's no need to bitch just cause somebody else does. That lame mental attitude is the circlejerk that keeps that shit going.

And Amanda, why don't you focus less on defending yourself and more on not giving a shit. Haters gonna hate. God damn.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 11:42 AM
I'm not sure i can. Pretty much anyone can message you. Once they do, you can ignore them from them on, so they have to keep making new names. (Ironic, innit). I would not disable anyway, Sorei and I talk real time via that, and that is far too precious a thing for me to lose over these wackjobs and their voodoo scare tactics.

JHFan
03-17-2013, 11:43 AM
And Amanda, why don't you focus less on defending yourself and more on not giving a shit. Haters gonna hate. God damn.

Quoted for MUTHAFUCKIN' TRUTH.

JHFan
03-17-2013, 11:45 AM
I'm not sure i can. Pretty much anyone can message you. Once they do, you can ignore them from them on, so they have to keep making new names. (Ironic, innit). I would not disable anyway, Sorei and I talk real time via that, and that is far too precious a thing for me to lose over these wackjobs and their voodoo scare tactics.

when you could just as easily use something else like Skype which integrated MSN messenger into it now? Or Google Talk? Or Trillian? Or? Or?

There are ALWAYS options!

Despair
03-17-2013, 11:46 AM
I'm not sure i can. Pretty much anyone can message you. Once they do, you can ignore them from them on, so they have to keep making new names. (Ironic, innit). I would not disable anyway, Sorei and I talk real time via that, and that is far too precious a thing for me to lose over these wackjobs and their voodoo scare tactics.

Then put on some TK Sunglasses and deal with it.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 11:46 AM
.....Look if you don't like the music you shouldn't bother having it. And if your only reason for having it is using it as leverage to get more shit, then you're an idiot. If you want to release something then do it, if you don't, then don't, but there's no need to bitch just cause somebody else does. That lame mental attitude is the circlejerk that keeps that shit going.

And Amanda, why don't you focus less on defending yourself and more on not giving a shit. Haters gonna hate. God damn.

Well, I was having this conversation privately with mod Sanico the other night, and was trying to defend this secret squirrel crap. She wasn't buying it, told me it was bullshit. And I know I hurt her feelings. Sanico, I am sorry. You ARE right, this is totally lame crap. I have allowed myself to be involved to andegree, to help with a friend's site. Or because I have friends who want to share, but need me not to. I will honor them, but i resigned from the site (No secret vault, I'm afraid, to raid), and I am not playing this. A circle jerk with a lone girl becomes more of a gang rape, and I am too old and non bendy to do that anymore.

Now, I want this opened up. I want ALL members to see this disease rotting at us in the dark. It has infected many members. It is insane, and needs to be outed.

Jessie
03-17-2013, 11:49 AM
The only reason these scores are "rare" is because the people that have them just keep them to themselves and don't share with those that they classify as unworthy or until they feel it's not rare enough anymore and share it. They should learn a thing or two from the vgm community, everything is pretty much available. Except for the one thing i've been trying to buy since i started collecting vgm *cries*

Amanda
03-17-2013, 11:50 AM
There there wolfie. Gently rubs Jessie's tummy

theodred27
03-17-2013, 11:51 AM
For me none of us a right in all this mess, nothing of this would have happened with proper releases and proper considerations for soundtracks.
I owe a lot to this forum I admi and I could never pay back all the things it has given to me. Sure I could share stuff that people are really looking for and would certainly enjoy more than I do because as Bollemaneke and I have endlessly said, its not about money ( Ive never involved money in any kind of trading ) and to collect scores because most of the sessions I listen I dont like them and Im not laughing at you all because you don't have it. All you have to understand is that people ( I dont know how many really ) are almost becoming no-life just to put their hands on valuable stuff by contacting influent people and so on, of course it will leak, this is the great problem of the internet nothing can be hidden.
However I dont wish to put the heads of the FFS members on spikes, with hindsight I'am glad that you are all enjoying the music released because we are all fucked up some way or another by commercial releases. The problem with "us" I think is that we are all working to get stuff while others are just waiting and grab it when the fruit is ready to be picked up. Maybe if we had framed all of us in some kind of massive movement we would have realized something and got unexpected stuff. This rises another very bad view i have about this forum is that we are always so lazy, things are posted on the Film Thread, but no thread is done to discuss how to get stuff. When we created threads about making petitions in order to get sessions that you will all enjoy and not just us, they were put in the request forum or whatever in which people dont give a shit. I'am just saying that EVERYONE should be more active to get stuff, this lazyness has somehow led to this trading circle that you all despise and yet you are and we are all responsible for that.

JHFan
03-17-2013, 11:52 AM
That's the beauty of this shit:





THIS is what those people are doing to you and anyone else. THIS is the reality.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 11:52 AM
But yea, you're right. The Horner scores I have are apparently onld news, according to this tj guy. Everyone has them. If so, why not leak them? If they have no value? What, are they drawing straws to see who gets to? WTF? IF they are old news, why not share?

JHFan
03-17-2013, 11:55 AM
My computer is mad at me!

Jessie
03-17-2013, 11:57 AM
There there wolfie. Gently rubs Jessie's tummy

heheheheheee

Arial
03-17-2013, 11:58 AM
I haven't even read the tips you pasted, only your intro.

If this guy has so much time to lose, good for him. Just don't play the game: ignore them. End of drama.

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-17-2013, 11:59 AM
Elitist are amongst VGMfans, too, they're just not that big in numbers. Or, rather, some of us get wrongly accused of being elitists simply because we don't want to spend time fulfilling others' requests. I do understand that it may suck, but in the end... do we owe anything to anyone?

JHFan
03-17-2013, 12:00 PM
Amanda is Kgray!

Phoenix2010 is Amanda!

FINKLE IS EINHORN!


JHFan
03-17-2013, 12:02 PM

JHFan
03-17-2013, 12:02 PM

Despair
03-17-2013, 12:03 PM
Well, I was having this conversation privately with mod Sanico the other night, and was trying to defend this secret squirrel crap. She wasn't buying it, told me it was bullshit. And I know I hurt her feelings. Sanico, I am sorry. You ARE right, this is totally lame crap. I have allowed myself to be involved to andegree, to help with a friend's site. Or because I have friends who want to share, but need me not to. I will honor them, but i resigned from the site (No secret vault, I'm afraid, to raid), and I am not playing this. A circle jerk with a lone girl becomes more of a gang rape, and I am too old and non bendy to do that anymore.

Now, I want this opened up. I want ALL members to see this disease rotting at us in the dark. It has infected many members. It is insane, and needs to be outed.

Quit the poetics, quit the drama, quit the pity party. Either share, or don't. Do, or Do Not, there is no try.


The only reason these scores are "rare" is because the people that have them just keep them to themselves and don't share with those that they classify as unworthy or until they feel it's not rare enough anymore and share it. They should learn a thing or two from the vgm community, everything is pretty much available. Except for the one thing i've been trying to buy since i started collecting vgm *cries*

In time....in time....


I'am just saying that EVERYONE should be more active to get stuff, this lazyness has somehow led to this trading circle that you all despise and yet you are and we are all responsible for that.

I don't see VGMfags who had to go buy that album because they couldn't find it anywhere else holding it as ransom to get more shit they can't find. What do they do? They share it so others can actually have it. You want something? Ask around, maybe somebody has what you're looking for and is nice enough to dish it out. If they don't, looks like you're gonna have to get it yourself. It's your choice to dish it out after that or not, but if you're going to keep it holed up in your super secret 1337zoorz haxxorzz club to try and bargain for more shit you're going to have to go get yourself anyway, then dude you're just a dick.

Hell, I just did a FLAC rip of Toonami: Deep Space Bass, which isnt as rare as it once was. Sure I didnt spread it far and ride and seed it as a torrent, but I did give it to the lossless VGM folks in case they wanted it. If they want to hand it out, then be my guest, the link's in the thread for anyone else to take too. But it's just retarded to bitch at people for sharing shit you shared with them. And asking them not to share is pretty dumb too.

JHFan
03-17-2013, 12:03 PM

JHFan
03-17-2013, 12:06 PM
Laces Out.

JHFan
03-17-2013, 12:09 PM

Jessie
03-17-2013, 12:09 PM
Elitist are amongst VGMfans, too, they're just not that big in numbers. Or, rather, some of us get wrongly accused of being elitists simply because we don't want to spend time fulfilling others' requests. I do understand that it may suck, but in the end... do we owe anything to anyone?

We don't owe anyone anything, we just do it because we're that damn good :P

You shared lots, even if you don't do it as much or at all anymore, doesn't make you an elitist.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 12:16 PM
Despair, err...no. I want this hashed out, now. I want this discussion. Fuck all the hiding. Fuck just keeping to it myself or in secret. Its gd, so fuck it I can rant here all I want.

**my mom is a published poet**

Jessie
03-17-2013, 12:23 PM
It's paddys day today and I'm gonna get wasted woooooo.

bollemanneke
03-17-2013, 12:26 PM
Okay, hang on a moment... 'If you collect rare things you don't like to use as leverage for things you do like, then you're an idiot.' SERIOUSLY? What's happened to common sense, people? So in other words, if someone offers you Titanic and you have to get things in return you absolutely hate, you wopn't do it, just because you don't like them? My brain can't process this train of thought...

Regarding the Horner sessions, they were old news indeed but from what I read between the lines, it was very clear that scorepranos got into trouble by all this leaking. It puts his job at risk. YOu say in that case that he shouldn't share anything. He has the right to share with friends on and off the shrine. That is something completely different from an insane character posting fifteen sessions in two days!

And now I'm walking away from this thread before I get a heart attack.

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-17-2013, 12:32 PM
We don't owe anyone anything, we just do it because we're that damn good :P

You shared lots, even if you don't do it as much or at all anymore, doesn't make you an elitist.
Yeah, go and tell it to that bunch of hypocrites over at VGMdb.... There's a lot human scum in there, or... well... idiots. It still amazes how most are against piracy, too bad that a great deal of the scans they are hosting and 'streaming' without authorization constitutes copyrighted material. Fair-use be damned, I can go and defend sharing of music with that argumentation, given we're spreading music we like... allowing others to discover it and enjoy it. They'll get closed, eventually, I'm just waiting for the not-so-happy/son-of-a-bitch labels to show up.

The thing which I hate most, is when this happens: I'm one lucky guy who owns a few rare albums, some never commercially released, so they go and talk as if I'm supposed to share such items, just because of that. I do like to share, but given I'm the one which has to spend time to rip, pack and upload... I'm all for doing it when I feel like it.

Not the nicest thing to do, for some, but there's nothing wrong with such position.

Jessie
03-17-2013, 12:32 PM
This is the home of insanity, you are in the wrong place if you're not down with that.

It's the fact that you want something in return and think that others how don't believe the same way you do is what the problem is here. People come here to share freely with others, we don't want anything in return for what we have, we do it for the sakes of making others happy that they can listen to something they've wanted and can't afford it or unable to get elsewhere.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 12:41 PM
That is the position Sanico took the other night. I was less respectful than I should have been. It is nice to think it is that way, but this leaked score mania is eating away at that.

15 shares in a day? where? I'd have to really dedicate myself, what with all the names to keep straight...

Jess, I guess I have like a half dozen accounts now, that bout right?

Jessie
03-17-2013, 12:43 PM
Yeah, go and tell it to that bunch of hypocrites over at VGMdb.... There's a lot human scum in there, or... well... idiots. It still amazes how most are against piracy, too bad that a great deal of the scans they are hosting and 'streaming' without authorization constitutes copyrighted material. Fair-use be damned, I can go and defend sharing of music with that argumentation, given we're spreading music we like... allowing others to discover it and enjoy it. They'll get closed, eventually, I'm just waiting for the not-so-happy/son-of-a-bitch labels to show up.

The thing which I hate most, is when this happens: I'm one lucky guy who owns a few rare albums, some never commercially released, so they go and talk as if I'm supposed to share such items, just because of that. I do like to share, but given I'm the one which has to spend time to rip, pack and upload... I'm all for doing it when I feel like it.

Not the nicest thing to do, for some, but there's nothing wrong with such position.
You have the soundtrack I e been after for years, but I don't like asking foodstuff so I do without :-P

Yeah there are a few elitists over there too, but I tend to ignore them. I'm lucky to know good traders, so I can get pretty much anything I'd want and share with others if they want it.

Jessie
03-17-2013, 12:51 PM
That is the position Sanico took the other night. I was less respectful than I should have been. It is nice to think it is that way, but this leaked score mania is eating away at that.

15 shares in a day? where? I'd have to really dedicate myself, what with all the names to keep straight...

Jess, I guess I have like a half dozen accounts now, that bout right?
I've no idea, I haven't been keeping track :-P

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-17-2013, 01:15 PM
You have the soundtrack I e been after for years, but I don't like asking foodstuff so I do without :-P
Look, that's a position I respect. And don't worry, it will get posted here as soon as I get the chance to travel to Tokyo and take it from my friend, at the current state of things I've only purchased it lol. I'm not like those recording sessions brats, I just don't act because of laziness/personal life :D

Damn, 15 minutes after I went and put that album in my collection, 3 P.M.s from VGMdb users asking for rips in whatever format, so much for folks which go and look at Galbadia Hotel/Shriners like they're some kind of disease, you know who you are... hypocrites :P

Jessie
03-17-2013, 01:31 PM
I should add it to my collection too and see how many pms I get and tell them it's sealed and will never be opened xD

Amanda
03-17-2013, 01:36 PM
:awsm:

theodred27
03-17-2013, 02:24 PM
I don't see VGMfags who had to go buy that album because they couldn't find it anywhere else holding it as ransom to get more shit they can't find. What do they do? They share it so others can actually have it. You want something? Ask around, maybe somebody has what you're looking for and is nice enough to dish it out. If they don't, looks like you're gonna have to get it yourself. It's your choice to dish it out after that or not, but if you're going to keep it holed up in your super secret 1337zoorz haxxorzz club to try and bargain for more shit you're going to have to go get yourself anyway, then dude you're just a dick.


Well you dont get it, I am not speaking about available stuff, I am speaking about grabing things directly to their sources, I dont speak about common OST which are eventually found but sessions such as Sherlock Holmes ( because you wont get it by simply asking) and other things that you are all looking for " Oh god i wished it would leak" you want stuff? well work together all of you because Im sure there is only 20 or 30 commited to get this stuff and almost the same number who leak them over 100 000 members here.

Arial
03-17-2013, 02:38 PM
-


SAVE YOUR WEEK-END GUYS, LIFE IS PRECIOUS. FREE YOU MINDS OF THESE THINGS.

- what did you do last week-end ?
- walked for hours with friends, enjoying life, cooked and watched some movie, and you ?
- oh, I was ranting about soundtrack elitism... :-/

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-17-2013, 02:45 PM
Pretty hard to achieve, though I believe some are already trying their best to get access to that kind of stuff. A side-note: those promotional/not commercially available albums are found in the Video Game Music scene, too, think of them as some kind of "For Your Consideration" Promos which get sent to those guys who review game music in 'well established' websites. On a few occasions they're later sold commercially as official albums, but most of the times they have exclusive tracks not found in the commercial release, or in the game itself. Or, again, others get printed in 50-100 copies, only for the development's staff of the game... And you have to hope that some of them get tired of their copy and later sells it on the likes of eBay.

Personally, I don't have a problem with trading itself, the thing I hate are those assholes which appear in a thread and say "Happy you leaked this? Now you've doomed us all!", seriously.... mind your own fucking business and remember you aren't the only ones on this planet, folks.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-17-2013, 03:21 PM
i don't know why people jump to conclusions.

do you have any idea how big the world is?
forums and soulseek are not the only things in this world.
for people to constitute the confines of their limited browser as a whole world is quite frankly OH LOOK SHINY THING!

brb.

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-17-2013, 03:29 PM
Really bad choice of words on my part, but damn... some of those act and post like what they want is the only thing which matters. So what if somebody prevented you from - possibly - getting access to "Item X"? Shit happens all the time, move on with life. I'm definitively more worried by the fact that this kind of crap happens over music.
They accuse users of this place of being arrogant folks who want everything, when they're arrogant too.... Whenever this drama happens, you have two kinds of arrogance clashing at each other. Maybe both parts should change a bit their attitude.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-17-2013, 03:32 PM
People are too stuck up on possessions. Whether their own or other people's.
I'm real fussy when it comes to music.
I see a lot and pass up a great deal of a lot.
I am happy with what I grabbed when it was available.

I can literally take a break from downloading music and spend the rest of my days sorting out the millions of folders and sorting out playlists and renaming/retagging everything I have.

What gets me the most about everything is when JESUS CHRIST I HAVE DIARRHEA AGAIN!

BRB!

JHFan
03-17-2013, 06:13 PM
People are too stuck up on possessions. Whether their own or other people's.
I'm real fussy when it comes to music.
I see a lot and pass up a great deal of a lot.
I am happy with what I grabbed when it was available.

I can literally take a break from downloading music and spend the rest of my days sorting out the millions of folders and sorting out playlists and renaming/retagging everything I have.

What gets me the most about everything is when JESUS CHRIST I HAVE DIARRHEA AGAIN!

BRB!

You have diarrhea, I left to go to sleep. It was after 7AM when I went on my "Finkle is Einhorn!" tirade.

I pass up on some 98% of leaks, because most of the leaks are Zimmer / Newton Howard / Remote Control Productions scores.

I just don't give a SHIT about Hans Zimmer and the Remote Control guys, but they make the vast majority of the shares, and they make the majority of the people here happy. Good on them for getting their favorites.

I'm 99.99999999999% about expanded Horner scores, which I know the majority just don't give a SHIT about.

We're both picky and we can both walk away from this shit and do other things with our time easily. :)

docrate1
03-17-2013, 07:08 PM
This is the home of insanity, you are in the wrong place if you're not down with that.


Cant...Resist...



























AND IF YOU'RE NOT DOWN WITH THAT WE'VE GOT TWOOO WOOOORDS FOR YOU !!

SUCK IT !!

docrate1
03-17-2013, 07:09 PM
On the problem at hand, here's my recommendation, Amanda:

Don't give a flying fuck about that guy. he's an asshat, and asshole and an ass, all rolled into one.

JHFan
03-17-2013, 07:57 PM
AND IF YOU'RE NOT DOWN WITH THAT WE'VE GOT TWOOO WOOOORDS FOR YOU !!

SUCK IT !!

I prefer to use these two words:



http://mydigitallemon.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/fuck-you.gif





But to each their own.

sorei
03-17-2013, 08:05 PM
AMANDA USES CAPS:
EVERYBODY USING CAPS IS AMANDA.

...now that I call an interesting case of multiple accounts....

JHFan
03-17-2013, 08:09 PM
I'm Amanda's Canadian Male Clone.

I am also Jack's colon. I get cancer, I kill Jack.

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-17-2013, 08:14 PM
I prefer to use these two words:

- Images, images, images -

But to each their own.
http://i46.tinypic.com/egxp8n.gif

All condensed in one, I presume? :D

JonC
03-17-2013, 08:20 PM
I don't know why this is a debate.
Could an Admin please do an IP address comparison between Amanda and any of the many and sundry accounts she's accused of having? That would pretty much settle the matter.
If they can't take an Admin's word for it, then they'd pretty much be boned anyway.
JonC

JHFan
03-17-2013, 08:23 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/egxp8n.gif

All condensed in one, I presume? :D

Sometimes. Other times just yelling it out a bunch of times. :)

"Fuck you and fuck you and fuck you over there, and hey you in the corner! Fuck you too!"


I don't know why this is a debate.
Could an Admin please do an IP address comparison between Amanda and any of the many and sundry accounts she's accused of having? That would pretty much settle the matter.
If they can't take an Admin's word for it, then they'd pretty much be boned anyway.
JonC

That would require LOGIC and BRAINS.

Silly.

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-17-2013, 08:23 PM
I don't know why this is a debate.
Could an Admin please do an IP address comparison between Amanda and any of the many and sundry accounts she's accused of having? That would pretty much settle the matter.
If they can't take an Admin's word for it, then they'd pretty much be boned anyway.
JonC
That isn't really going to solve anything, I fear, they'll just start to pick on someone else.

Eisengeist
03-17-2013, 09:03 PM
IP can be faked.

Amanda
03-17-2013, 09:19 PM
Besides, what's the crime agan? That these pricks can force someone on a free sharing site to prove who they are or are not. Is that what we do now. Thanks for the music, err, id please. Please affirm you had the right to dessiminate this illegally obtained material ......really? I am on trial because someone thinks I shared music......fuck all of you.

jmlangdon
03-17-2013, 09:31 PM
All I see here is mutual hate between the distinctive groups of people that visit this forum... People who trade seems to hate the leakers and people who enjoy those leaks hate the traders who, in the first place, are the ones who manage to get most of the rare stuff that eventually gets leaked...

Music is to be enjoyed by everyone, in the end...

I used to believe that the purpose of this forum was to unite as many film music fans as possible, but instead, all this conflict has led to separation, harmful bragging and insulting discussions... And let us not forget that this all exploded with the first major leak that was carried out by kgray... and we all know what was the purpose of that...

So, this is all wrong, it is clear that an agreement will never be reached and frankly, I'm sick of all the hating that I have to tolerate because of the stigmatization the traders are suffering...

Now, can we all just keep doing what we were doing freely?? Or do we have to keep tolerating your anger because we choose not share certain things? You choose to leak stuff if it gets to your hands... Can we do whatever we want with the things that are in our hands?

Amanda
03-17-2013, 09:39 PM
what WAS the purpose? That people were happy? Oh, wait...I meant WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE AGAIN. SORRY FORGOT TO TYPE ALL CAPS. Or Shoul I CapitalizsEvry Word? Oh My God He's Snakes To aaaaaaaaamorons. fucking pussies cowards and morons.

jmlangdon
03-17-2013, 09:46 PM
Enough is enough, Amanda... You have no right to disrespect me, as I haven't made accussations of any kind nor I haven't been harmful to you. Now you've made it clear that we are not even allowed to express our opinions, without receiving insults in return... But go ahead, keep exhibiting the kind of person you are.

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-17-2013, 09:47 PM
[...] Can we do whatever we want with the things that are in our hands?
That would be best for everyone, but what could be seen at the same time as the worst and best thing about this kind of community, is that it allows everyone to join. I'm all for having you traders keep doing what you want to, and I'm always grateful for whatever item gets posted here, even though I may not actually be interested in it, personally. You want respect? Well, we want it, too. No more accusations... and no more crap like: "You idiot, you have no idea of the shitstorm you caused by posting this".

The last sentences aren't actually directed at you. I'm just saying that not everyone is going to ignore you, if you're being an ass to them, there are those who answer back.

theodred27
03-17-2013, 09:49 PM
I'am sorry Amanda but I dont get your post, Langdon wrote a polite and structured reply, so why all this agressiveness?

jmlangdon
03-17-2013, 09:49 PM
... if you're being an ass to them, there are those who answer back.

That's exactly why I decided to make some comments about all this...

JHFan
03-17-2013, 09:50 PM
Virtual shitstorm.

Remember that. Virtual.

I just took a nice walk outside. You know, in the real world away from the computer?

theodred27
03-17-2013, 09:53 PM
Virtual shitstorm.

Remember that. Virtual.

I just took a nice walk outside. You know, in the real world away from the computer?

Yes me too, i was on the verge of going outside but i needed to shit, too bad huh?

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-17-2013, 09:57 PM
That's exactly why I decided to make some comments about all this...
And your comments, unlike someone's else, were absolutely polite and smart. People need to chill out, on both sides.

Virtual shitstorm.

Remember that. Virtual.

I just took a nice walk outside. You know, in the real world away from the computer?
Never forgot that, personally. I've just joined the train ride turned-wreck because I had nothing better to do, and had seen much sillier threads being kept around and 'alive'.

JHFan
03-17-2013, 09:57 PM
Now, can we all just keep doing what we were doing freely?? Or do we have to keep tolerating your anger because we choose not share certain things? You choose to leak stuff if it gets to your hands... Can we do whatever we want with the things that are in our hands?

So...let me see if I follow you on this:

You're saying people should be able to do what they want with what they have.

What I get from that is if you decide to share something, by all means. Share it. If you don't want to share it, then don't share it. It's in your hands and you can do what you want with it, so share it or keep it to yourself, that's entirely your call.

At the same time this thread was created because there are those who believe that people can NOT do what they want with what they have. It's in their hands but they cannot do what they want with it without others coming down on them telling them as much, whether it's sharing something or not sharing something.

The point is, well...what is the point? Damned if you do, damned if you don't? That's what it sounds like. That's what this thread is.

JHFan
03-17-2013, 09:58 PM
Yes me too, i was on the verge of going outside but i needed to shit, too bad huh?

Take a shit, then go outside. That's what I do. I never take a walk without going to the bathroom before leaving. :)

theodred27
03-17-2013, 10:10 PM
So...let me see if I follow you on this:

You're saying people should be able to do what they want with what they have.

What I get from that is if you decide to share something, by all means. Share it. If you don't want to share it, then don't share it. It's in your hands and you can do what you want with it, so share it or keep it to yourself, that's entirely your call.

At the same time this thread was created because there are those who believe that people can NOT do what they want with what they have. It's in their hands but they cannot do what they want with it without others coming down on them telling them as much, whether it's sharing something or not sharing something.

The point is, well...what is the point? Damned if you do, damned if you don't? That's what it sounds like. That's what this thread is.

I see the idea here and I agree, but if i referred to the Kgray leak, "the big one" it was not a clever tactic, I mean sure she/he/it could have shared it but spead on time because leaking 5 or 7 sessions its too much and it has created a lot of problems, here but also "undeground" like the Last Samurai case for instance. It's like candies, you give some each day and when the pack is over well you start the new one. What happened here is that too much has been given and the pack will be quickly empty. If you leak a complete set of sessions its very unlikely that you will receive anything else. Im not saying that to be despiteful because we are all gonna be the victims of that, we won't get The Last Samurai and even more, its sad for the community but a big moment of enjoyement like the Kgray day will lead to blank days in which nothing will surface ( at least blockbuster sessions )

Ah yeah and I wish I could shit on commands at a time given but Ivent succeed yet

jmlangdon
03-17-2013, 10:14 PM
So...let me see if I follow you on this:

You're saying people should be able to do what they want with what they have.

What I get from that is if you decide to share something, by all means. Share it. If you don't want to share it, then don't share it. It's in your hands and you can do what you want with it, so share it or keep it to yourself, that's entirely your call.

At the same time this thread was created because there are those who believe that people can NOT do what they want with what they have. It's in their hands but they cannot do what they want with it without others coming down on them telling them as much, whether it's sharing something or not sharing something.

The point is, well...what is the point? Damned if you do, damned if you don't? That's what it sounds like. That's what this thread is.


The point is: this is a forum, and should remain being a forum and not a battlefield.

I believe we are all old enough to make our own decisions here...

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-17-2013, 10:24 PM
I'd like point out something, still. It's arguable that traders ultimately started this 'fight'. If some of your group of traders had kept their mouths shut when those 7-8 sessions leaks happened, we would have still got them... yes... But we would have also been left 'ignorant' of the whole issue, continuing to dream of obtaining certain items, not knowing that we... "sealed our fates"... with such actions. Life and business would have continued as usual, around here.... And at your trading circles. Now, thanks to some of your actions, we jump at each other at every opportunity we get.

Whatever, I'll keep enjoying what gets posted, whether is intentional or not.

bollemanneke
03-17-2013, 10:32 PM
The main point, guys, is - like theodred already wrote - that kgray perfectly knew she was creating havoc, but in the process she continued to ignore and shout at every single person who tried to stop her, because apparently anti-piracy movements are more important than people's jobs. But I suppose that when you can only think of your little movements, nothing else in the world matters...

Yes, I, too, believe the 'fate' of sessions is in the owne's hands, but it's another thing to repeatedly destroy people's private plans, over and over again, just because, I dunno, you get a kick out of it? That's just not reasonable! I'll give n example: if I upload something now and I receive replies (aggressive or not) telling me to please stop it because of any reason, I will stop! Why would you continue to make individuals you don'tk now happy when you know you're doing dangerous things? That's just selfish. That's all I have to say on the matter. That's the main point. My other point is that I' also fucking brassed off with amanda's arrogance. What exactly makes you think you're the all-knowing divine goddess of scores? I mean, why are you still convinced that you've been right all along when numerous people seem to be of another opinion? Honestly, just admit the kgray thing was a failure!

JHFan
03-17-2013, 10:32 PM
The point is: this is a forum, and should remain being a forum and not a battlefield.

I believe we are all old enough to make our own decisions here...

If that's the case than this "kgray" person (whom I'd never heard of until late January) was free to do whatever they wanted without getting crapped on for it, and I'm basing that on what you said before about being able to do what you want with what you have.

Here's a well-known example.

Scorepranos has shared a huge amount of stuff.

Scorepranos has also said on many occasions that said sharing would come to and end and he would walk away from here.

For reasons unknown, he has on occasion changed his mind and the sharing has resumed. Might be temporary, might not be. Entirely up to him.

Scorepranos is doing what he wants to do with what he has. Sometimes he wants to share things. Sometimes he doesn't and will even delete past links and walk away because that's what he feels he needs or just wants to do because he is free to make those choices.

He's the living embodiment of the philosophy we're discussing.

Edited to add: He also woke up this mornin', got himself a gun, cuz mama always said he'd be the chosen one.

Couldn't resist. :)

Some people have that freedom to do so without getting crapped on, and some aren't so lucky. I guess the real issue here is who is entitled to a free pass and who isn't. Amanda most certainly isn't, or this thread would not exist.

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-17-2013, 10:38 PM
If we'd seriously respect others' jobs, we would stop every type of sharing: sessions or commercial albums (folks still pay quite the sum of money to record performances, manufacture CDs... and would like to get this money back), that's a weak argumentation to use.

And in regards to kgray causing havoc, I'd still blame more strongly and viciously the person who shared those sessions first. You don't want crap to happen to you? Keep to yourself, idiot.

jmlangdon
03-17-2013, 10:54 PM
If your actions make some people upset... then, I'm sorry... Kgray's leaks caused a lot of havoc because it was done to harm the trading business, while at the same time many people appropiately considered him to be a hero (which is understandable). It's in the past now, and in my opinion, it's pointless to keep talking about it, because it won't change anything...

The trading circle will continue to exist as the leaks will continue to exist (either well intended or not), the way they have always been...

JHFan
03-17-2013, 11:04 PM
There used to be the claim that bootlegs prevented legitimate albums from being released.

However, these are just a small selection of scores I know of that have been bootlegged / leaked that have seen a legitimate release, whether it's complete or otherwise:

INDEPENDENCE DAY (several boots)
STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE (several boots)
STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT (several boots)
HONEY, I SHRUNK THE KIDS (two boots)
TESTAMENT (two boots)
IN COUNTRY (two boots)
PROJECT X
WOLFEN
ALIEN
ALIENS
WYATT EARP (official is coming soon)

There are of course many, many more. Those were just the first examples I thought of.

Arial
03-17-2013, 11:40 PM
Well, those stories should remain in those *private* circles, as well as the dramas.

... What have you done today people ? :)

JHFan
03-17-2013, 11:44 PM
... What have you done today people ? :)

Went outside with my dog for a while. It's sunny, clear sky, but still pretty cold.

docrate1
03-17-2013, 11:44 PM
Well, those stories should remain in those *private* circles, as well as the dramas.

... What have you done today people ? :)

I've been on a holy crusade against dust in my appartment. been cleaning all week.

Amanda
03-18-2013, 12:03 AM
The main point, guys, is - like theodred already wrote - that kgray perfectly knew she was creating havoc, but in the process she continued to ignore and shout at every single person who tried to stop her, because apparently anti-piracy movements are more important than people's jobs. But I suppose that when you can only think of your little movements, nothing else in the world matters...

Yes, I, too, believe the 'fate' of sessions is in the owne's hands, but it's another thing to repeatedly destroy people's private plans, over and over again, just because, I dunno, you get a kick out of it? That's just not reasonable! I'll give n example: if I upload something now and I receive replies (aggressive or not) telling me to please stop it because of any reason, I will stop! Why would you continue to make individuals you don'tk now happy when you know you're doing dangerous things? That's just selfish. That's all I have to say on the matter. That's the main point. My other point is that I' also fucking brassed off with amanda's arrogance. What exactly makes you think you're the all-knowing divine goddess of scores? I mean, why are you still convinced that you've been right all along when numerous people seem to be of another opinion? Honestly, just admit the kgray thing was a failure!


Well, not being kgray I would not know. Put keep pushing your drivel. No one has a right to say stop when they do not own the material. These leaks are stolen, illegally obtained items to begin with. If you don't want the consequences of having stolen them. don't do it in the first place. Anything on the internet is going to get leaked ans is fair game at this forum. If a friends tells me not to share i do not, which is what is hard right now, cause I'd dearly love to show you what a massive posting looks like.

So I should leave it alone? I would not have done this, but for your lil minions spending a week harassing me on soulseek. I had enough, and now i will continue for as long as I desire. I will use whatever language I desire. And it is my choice, mine, if i will respect a member and post something. In the end I WILL post what I desire and I DO NOT have to answer to you people. In a case like this, just to the friend. By sending tj to attack me, you declared war. You started this, and I am just crazy and stubborn enough to never let it end.

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-18-2013, 12:10 AM
Well, those stories should remain in those *private* circles, as well as the dramas.

... What have you done today people ? :)
I posted here while I waited for the daily porn to end "buffering".

JHFan
03-18-2013, 12:15 AM
I posted here while I waited for the daily porn to end "buffering".

I don't even stream YouTube videos. I always download. It's MINE!

Now what that has to do with porn, well...


;)

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-18-2013, 12:18 AM
I don't even stream YouTube videos. I always download. It's MINE!

Now what that has to do with porn, well...


;)
Hehe, did I say buffering? I meant "downloading", what with those Temporary Internet files and .flv things clogging up my folder... :D

JHFan
03-18-2013, 12:21 AM
I play flv files all the time using Media Player Classic.

Sometimes they're really mp4 videos in an flv container so I'll extract the streams and this is too much information but not really because I'm talking only about YouTube videos and other videos from sites that offer news and TV shows and trailers and whatnot, not pr0n. No sir never ever ever.


!

Now there's an idea. Turn this thread into an NSFW nightmare.


Randomly.



:)

docrate1
03-18-2013, 12:24 AM
Okay, you want proof amanda is kgray? HOw about this? I know someone who knows her, and she just admitted it! Happy now? Is this enough proof...?

No. That's your proof ?!

I have to believe:

1. that you know someone who knows Amanda.
2. that said someone is honest.
3. that said someone really told you.
4. That said someone knows the various avatars of Amanda on the web.
5. that said someone can proof his claims.

Lots of things to take for granted, eh ? you'd have done marvels in the inquisition. that's HEARSAY EVIDENCE AT BEST !!!

Shit. caps. Sorry. I surely must be Amanda then ? :rolleyes:

In other words, no, I don't believe you. this is the usual "a friend of a friend told me that he is an evil evil person". that's not proof. that's called spreading a rumor. That, combined with that nasty habit you're showing of deforming other's declaration so that they suit your end tells me that you're at best lying, at worst trolling in the worst kind of ways.

End of story as far as I'm concerned. keep your paranoia for yourself. somebody leaked something that you obtained illegaly, and you and your little friends are making a temper tantrum, pointing at someone without proof while spouting all kind of nonsense.

get a grip. this is internet. if I want to get my hands on something, I'll get it. if it's online, I can get it.

Now please, be a good boy, put you tinfoil hat back on and go back to soulsick.

JHFan
03-18-2013, 12:37 AM
FUCKIN' A.

A AS IN AMANDA.

I AM AMANDA.

I USE CAPSLOCK THEREFORE I AM.

jmlangdon
03-18-2013, 12:39 AM
Well, not being kgray I would not know. Put keep pushing your drivel. No one has a right to say stop when they do not own the material. These leaks are stolen, illegally obtained items to begin with. If you don't want the consequences of having stolen them. don't do it in the first place. Anything on the internet is going to get leaked ans is fair game at this forum. If a friends tells me not to share i do not, which is what is hard right now, cause I'd dearly love to show you what a massive posting looks like.

So I should leave it alone? I would not have done this, but for your lil minions spending a week harassing me on soulseek. I had enough, and now i will continue for as long as I desire. I will use whatever language I desire. And it is my choice, mine, if i will respect a member and post something. In the end I WILL post what I desire and I DO NOT have to answer to you people. In a case like this, just to the friend. By sending tj to attack me, you declared war. You started this, and I am just crazy and stubborn enough to never let it end.

Blah, blah... I've had enough with this woman... I used to believe that you were an honest person but now you've shown your true face here. I don't care what position do you have or the contacts you are related to or what you are capable of... Quit the brag, you are not scaring anybody. If you get attacked by someone who insults you, deal with that person privately. If you need to find the motivational backup to do so, get a shrink... As I'm considering this thread to be your method of catharsis for releasing all the anger you have against the people who trade stuff and apparently, who is constantly harrassing you...

All I asked was to take it easy... And I asked it politely. But manners don't seem to be important to you...

JHFan
03-18-2013, 12:58 AM
To all you whiny little bastards in this thread who won't shut up about this stupid nonsense:

Consider this a gift.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Human_penis_and_scrotum.JPG



Kthxbye

Amanda
03-18-2013, 01:04 AM
**why jh** is that for me? :)

:erm: i misplaced my last one

JHFan
03-18-2013, 01:06 AM
Actually it's for those who are apparently "done" with you, but if you can use a spare, go for it!

They should keep it up.

I won't spoiler-tag the next one.

docrate1
03-18-2013, 01:15 AM
Blah, blah... I've had enough with this woman... I used to believe that you were an honest person but now you've shown your true face here. I don't care what position do you have or the contacts you are related to or what you are capable of... Quit the brag, you are not scaring anybody. If you get attacked by someone who insults you, deal with that person privately. If you need to find the motivational backup to do so, get a shrink... As I'm considering this thread to be your method of catharsis for releasing all the anger you have against the people who trade stuff and apparently, who is constantly harrassing you...

All I asked was to take it easy... And I asked it politely. But manners don't seem to be important to you...

You may not have paid attention, but people who know Amanda a bit know she was probably both on meds AND drunk when she answered (or in a state of near berserk rage, but I somehow doubt that). but taking part in the public crucifixion is so fun, why pay attention to details.

Amanda is constantly accused of being a leak, or of being the cause of a thread being shut down, or this or that. it's been a recurring theme for the last 6 months at least. this time was the final straw. It's not really against people who trade stuff she's angry with. it's when these people discover that their coveted treasures are being distributed to commoners...I mean to other people, and that said "traders" feel the need to point at someone. of course, picking the real culprit being near impossible (especially on a p2p network like soulseek), it's easier to attack someone blindly, pointing fingers at a person who has a history of depression (sorry to raise that point Amanda :erm:), thinking she won't find the strentgh to defend herself, and sit down to admire the fireworks, and the countless idiots who will join the hatetrain to boo the evil supposed leaker.

only this time, Amanda got pissed, not depressed. and bamf. for your information, what happens is a near remake of the end of the first "Film score hunt thread", when a bunch of morons thought fun to attack Amanda, and got the thread derailed so much that Sarah closed it and opened a new one.

Oh, one last comment: just like Bollemaneke, you might want to get your eyes checked. when I read Amanda's post, I see no bragging. just that she'll be ruthless in her dealings with people who harrassed her. as in, Tj, Bollemanneke or you, probably.

That and she probably won't miss an occasion to pour gasoline on any fire in which traders (or asshats) are caught. I'll be there, too, passing her the gasoline jerrycan.

UniMaster
03-18-2013, 01:24 AM
I leaked something today. Flushed afterwards. Felt better.


BTW, anyone seen the recording sessions for Titanic. . . ?

JHFan
03-18-2013, 01:24 AM
And I'll be here to post more pics without spoiler tags. :)

Solidarity!

JHFan
03-18-2013, 01:24 AM
I leaked something today. Flushed afterwards. Felt better.


BTW, anyone seen the recording sessions for Titanic. . . ?

The link is in my spoiler above. :)



Okay no it's not.

Amanda
03-18-2013, 01:34 AM
;) Is that what you call it? The Titanic? Thats a nick to live up to...

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-18-2013, 01:36 AM
;) Is that what you call it? The Titanic? Thats a nick to live up to...
Let's hope it doesn't go down upon reaching the point of the iceberg..

jmlangdon
03-18-2013, 01:37 AM
I see... Ok, then... I understand it.

Didn't know I had to feel sorry for her... Maybe, that would have been the case, if I had received an answer with the same politeness I showed at the beginning, instead of a bunch of undeserved insults for a reason I ignore and that seems to be a consequence of this woman's anger. I will not take back anything of what I've said, and I will not add further comments to this thread. All I wanted was to ease things a little bit... but having a civilized dialogue with you is impossible... Mind you that we are not talking about politics nor religion.

As I've said before, I don't care what she is capable of. She's not the only one who has friends around here. And certainly, she's not the only one that has been pointed at in the past...

Signing off.

JHFan
03-18-2013, 01:39 AM
;) Is that what you call it? The Titanic? Thats a nick to live up to...

I just sent you a positive message on soulsuckingseek and you go offline? W. T. F. ?


Let's hope it doesn't go down upon reaching the point of the iceberg..

That ain't me in the photo (it's from wikipedia) but if Kate Winslet were there, it would be enough to shatter that iceberg. The ship never would've sunk!

JHFan
03-18-2013, 01:40 AM
This thread needs more cock.

Actual cock, and not the dicks who won't shut up!

Leon Scott Kennedy
03-18-2013, 01:41 AM
Raise the Titanic!

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-18-2013, 01:41 AM
Zimmer / Newton Howard / Remote Control Productions scores.

:doc::doc::doc: Musical diarrhea.


"according to h-z.com, this is incomplete, different time lengths, different names, cue slates out of order and not lossless"

JHFan
03-18-2013, 01:47 AM
:doc::doc::doc: Musical diarrhea.


"according to h-z.com, this is incomplete, different time lengths, different names, cue slates out of order and not lossless"

I wasn't saying they're musical diarrhea! Your words, not mine!

docrate1
03-18-2013, 01:49 AM
Raise the Titanic!

With me, a passage to the toilet is variable. either it's "Armaggeddon" (multiple small projectiles), or it's "Deep Impact". ;)

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-18-2013, 01:58 AM
Your words, not mine!

:laugh: Yeah, I know. I was just poking at how this forum reacts to any RC/Zimmer music.
Nothing's perfect as far as RC/Z leaks go. (for them.)



I bet if we could legalize Battle Royale legal and give the winner prizes, we can tell them they'll get full access to original RC material.
And then at the end, tell them it was all a lie and there is no prize.



















































:jokerlove:

JHFan
03-18-2013, 01:59 AM
Fuck Armageddon. I hate that fucking movie.

Sorry, what were we talking about?

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-18-2013, 02:14 AM
Sorry, what were we talking about?

The long-term effects of green house gases and reducing our carbon foot prints.

JHFan
03-18-2013, 02:22 AM
That's what we need. A carbon foot-fetish thread.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-18-2013, 02:28 AM
The only toes I suck are green!

JHFan
03-18-2013, 02:41 AM
Hulk or the jam in between?

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-18-2013, 02:44 AM
The ones that dance in the green grapes for wine making.

JHFan
03-18-2013, 02:51 AM
Sweet feet.

That rhymes.

Chocolate Misu
03-18-2013, 03:04 AM
Dearest Amanda~

I see more trouble has lighted upon your shoulders. This is dismaying news indeed. You seem to be in need of some relief from these stressing days. I'm positive you have the booze covered so I shall bestow upon you two gifts.


Cheese...




and missiles~




Enjoy yourself my dear~

Amanda
03-18-2013, 08:33 AM
HMMM. I apparently just pm'ed myself asking me for links to Rio and Outbreak. I dunno, I hear I am not trustworthy, so I was Unsure of giving them to me....:awsm:

docrate1
03-18-2013, 10:54 AM
HMMM. I apparently just pm'ed myself asking me for links to Rio and Outbreak. I dunno, I hear I am not trustworthy, so I was Unsure of giving them to me....:awsm:

:rofldata:

docrate1
03-18-2013, 10:55 AM
My shelf just raged on me. she's furious that I'm about to leak some of her CDs. furious.

She even spat dust at me.

docrate1
03-18-2013, 10:55 AM
nothing :erm:

Arial
03-18-2013, 01:10 PM
My shelf just raged on me. she's furious that I'm about to leak some of her CDs. furious.

She even spat dust at me.

C'mon... You said you cleaned up the dust this WE !

UniMaster
03-18-2013, 01:28 PM
Oooo . . . continuity error!

docrate1
03-18-2013, 01:28 PM
C'mon... You said you cleaned up the dust this WE !

I must have forgotten some. And I said I was cleaning. I'm not finished. The joys of allergies force me to go at it rather slowly. :sad:

sorei
03-18-2013, 01:30 PM
The joys of allergies force me to go at it rather slowly. :sad:

:( sorry to hear that....

(I try to be allergic to allergies somehow, we will see how long this works...)

docrate1
03-18-2013, 02:49 PM
:( sorry to hear that....

(I try to be allergic to allergies somehow, we will see how long this works...)

meh. it's not that big of a problem anymore. I clean a shelf, sneeze and cry for an hour, then I move to the next shelf/table/dresser/crate of RPG books

sorei
03-18-2013, 03:05 PM
slow often is enough is good - or even better - anyway ;)

Jessie
03-18-2013, 04:34 PM
Clean one shelf and take a break, clean the next shelf and the.first is dusty again.

Sarah
03-18-2013, 04:57 PM
people that are here to share soundtracks but.. don't want soundtracks shared are dickbutts.

JHFan
03-18-2013, 06:45 PM
people that are here to share soundtracks but.. don't want soundtracks shared are dickbutts.

and are in desperate need of some dicks in their butts.

Sarah
03-18-2013, 07:31 PM
they don't deserve dicks in their butts

theodred27
03-18-2013, 07:33 PM
Maybe we can close that thread since it has lost its interest? or if you want keep going and turn this into a Whore house or a "bordel" like we say in france.

JHFan
03-18-2013, 07:40 PM
they don't deserve dicks in their butts

True. They might enjoy that too much.

docrate1
03-19-2013, 01:15 PM
Maybe we can close that thread since it has lost its interest? or if you want keep going and turn this into a Whore house or a "bordel" like we say in france.

oh, un compatriote :p

Depends. we sure turned it into a "mess" which is the translation of the other meaning of the french world "Bordel".

Docrate1, fulfilling cultural needs since...err...1:14 PM today.

ROKUSHO
03-20-2013, 07:49 AM
theres a board here that is a secret to everybody? i want in. same on that other board.
you can trust me completely. i tend to download entire scores to get ONE theme, then delete the rest.

Amanda
03-20-2013, 10:00 AM
There is no secret board here. And none at the other site. It is just all rumors blown way out of control, as rumors are wont to do. Pay it no mind.

ROKUSHO
03-20-2013, 11:27 PM
and i dont share. at all.


maybe thats why my third (real life) nickname is scrooge (also explains why, since birth, scrooge mcduck is my favorite disney character).

also, you must forgive me for not believing you saying there is no secret forum/stuff.

i mean, its logical, the secret of a secret is that it must be kept secret, or it wouldnt be a secret

Arial
03-21-2013, 12:24 AM
There is no secret board here. And none at the other site. It is just all rumors blown way out of control, as rumors are wont to do. Pay it no mind.

You 've just been promoted "Member of Honor" of our secret forum ! Well done.

Arial
03-21-2013, 12:25 AM
...
i mean, its logical, the secret of a secret is that it must be kept secret, or it wouldnt be a secret.

Exactly ! However there's no secret forum.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-21-2013, 02:51 AM
I can write secret messages. :169:

<when you're swishing and you're sitting...>















































































<diarrhea~>

UniMaster
03-21-2013, 05:52 AM
people that are here to share soundtracks but.. don't want soundtracks shared are dickbutts.

and are in desperate need of some dicks in their butts.

they don't deserve dicks in their butts

You two sound like the guy's speech at the end of Team America.

JHFan
03-22-2013, 04:28 AM
Never saw it. I'm not into that South Park stuff, or in that case, stuff from the creators of South Park.