Top Cat
02-25-2004, 02:31 PM
OK, what's the worst FF and why?

I don't like FF8, the story wasn't exactly amazing and the junction system is STILL the worst magic/ stat system ever, I ended up not using magic because my stats went down to much...
Also the money system sucked- I want to get money by twatting things, not by my SeeD rank.
And I didn't like having GFs straight away, it worked in FF10 because you could use magic without worrying about your magic stocks or junctions so you didn't use them all the time.

darkness of eternity
02-26-2004, 09:05 AM
ff X-2 annoyed me, it was too charlies angels for my liking, i'm not saying i don't like it, it was just weird...

Maliris-San
02-26-2004, 09:29 AM
Well, to tell the truth there�s no FF I really want to blast away!

They were all really amazing. Even Final Fantasy VIII. When I think about it again I realize that the story was awesome. Somehow strange though... but hell, there was Laguna! ^-^

"Lady Auron" :cool:

Dr. Lucien Sanchez
02-26-2004, 12:58 PM
I don't really dislike any of them, I like them all infact. But the one I guess I had the most problems with was FF6. How many characters do you need? I like variety, but thats just annoying having......13 characters at your disposal. Also the problem with having so many characters is many of the don't get developed properly, thus you rarely use them.

Also I myself thought the main storyline was a bit too quick, the side-quests extended the game by quite abit (which may I add is very impressive), but it just seemed to fly by, and I don't have many memorable parts of the game in my head.

Armond of Silverville
02-27-2004, 10:15 AM
if 8 wasn't named final fantasy, god would smite all of it's little peices, gf's? more like gay friends, the fucked up espers....

Purrr
02-27-2004, 12:06 PM
I voted for FFIX for many reasons

1) the characters lacked the depth that charcters from other FF games portrayed so well.

2) the story was way too "Legend Of Legaia" and seemed like a blatent rip-off (hello...Mist??)

3)it was more like a Dungeons & Dragons session than a video game I could lose myself in

KthnxBai~

KREAYSHAWN
02-27-2004, 12:15 PM
Ah, yes, but Legend of Legaia was shit! :D

And X. For numerous reasons. But I won't go into them, let's just say it's not my favourite. :)

The Joker
02-27-2004, 02:32 PM
This is a close one...

Its either between Final Fantasy IX or X-2. I know FFVIII will be a popular choice for those not seeing past the surface of the story and those who didn't appreciate the innovation or ambition of the battle system.

On FF9:

I felt had the best cast and character development, people were truly 3D in this game, emotionally. However, the epic portion of the plot doesn't move us, the gameplay isn't as deep (you'll find more magic and commands else where) and large as the previous FFs, the adventure elements are weakened by only a few sidquests not being moogle or chocobo related. The game doesn't have much ambitions and plays it way too safe.

On FFX-2:

Some great and somewhat fresher gameplay...but oh man. The direction of dialouge, music, and etc are a complete let down. Stupid situations about characters that are not. I do agree with Misao when she says "FFX-2 will reveal that its not shallow, but that the people playing it are" because its another game, that will likely turn you off at first but you need to tolerate it in order to see what lies beneath.

Top Cat
02-27-2004, 02:56 PM
aye

You all present good arguments, FF9 seems popular and I do count it as my second worst FF, after FF7 and even FF8 the story WAS a bit thin and the battle system had less commands than just about any other FF. (See the fact that Dagger and Eiko had virtually identical Wht. Magic moves for confirmation This dissapointed me because Eiko had some good summons, but my 'way' meant that I only used one White Mage at a time... :( )

I was surprised to see 6 put on the list, you don't HAVE to use all the characters, but I guess 13 was a bit much.

Anyway... Continue voting!

Cascara
03-03-2004, 09:15 PM
Hey ff9 had class. If anything about the series sucked it had to be X-2 in all honesty. It seems that ff fans love to fuck with me for talking about this games weak points.
The way I see it ff9 and ff8 were the shit X-2 compared to them is a piece of shit. Not that completly hate the game its just if you want rate the worst ff DONT START WITH THE CLASSICS DAMIT!
seriosly X-2 was fine for a sequal but as for a complete solid ff no way! Why isnt this game getting most of our votes instead of ff9 I dont get some people. :notgood: :notgood: :notgood:

This is crap!

I some what agree with Gandalf though ff9 did play it safe. But like I said ff9 has class I for one was not let down.

Landlord of Sector 7
03-03-2004, 09:37 PM
Yeah X-2 really bit the big one. Most people think that the only good thing about that game is that you can see Rikkus thong but the only good thing about that game is Trigger Happy!

Wattson
03-04-2004, 08:43 PM
X-2, purely because of Rikku's astounding moment of stupitidy, "Oh, poopies."

No FF was really that bad, but X-2 takes the cake.


Oh, except for Mystic Quest. But I don't consider that a game.

Strife-x
03-05-2004, 10:06 AM
x-2=gayest piece of shit i ever played :notgood:

:notgood: i don't completely hate its okay for an average rpg, but when you put the name final fantasy on it, it has a lot to live up to, that game lacked everythin that makes a good game the hotness, battle system okay, the music gay the gayest soundtrack ever, stupid story(if you can call it that) the only cool characters were shuyin and gippal, somthin about shuyin that makes me think he's badass, but enough ranting i'll end with this:
accept x-2 as the worst ff because it was stupid and gay, and well mediocre as rpg's go, and horrible as ff's go:notgood:

The Joker
03-05-2004, 12:47 PM
Yeah zell86,

Final Fantasy X-2 really had major direction problems...I mean girls jumping up and down talking silly, only thing missing is twirl your hair. But the game took a big dare on being different, and it worked for the gameplay, but not the direction.

Ansem522
03-06-2004, 01:21 AM
X-2 mostly because it was so bad compared to its predicessor X. x-2 had no storyline to it it was just bs. th ending was horrible and the music sounded like elevator music.(except for 1000 word) the dress changing thing was also wierd. and biggest disappointment was that u couldnt SUMMON!!:mad:

_D3viL_Hunt3r_
03-06-2004, 08:59 AM
I liked all of the final fantasys they all had they good points and bad points. The best thing of all is the variety of games, theyre all different win many ways.

Zephikast
03-06-2004, 10:09 AM
kk....final fantasy 7 woz da best....then came final fantasy 8 (piece of sh*t)

http://www.hkfilm.net/ff8cover.gif

CRAPPEST GAME EVER!!!!!!

Darth Revan
03-06-2004, 12:32 PM
Firstly, to you FFVIII hater's... I seem to recall hearing that Square made FFVIII to appeal to the percentage of gamers that were women. Personally, I liked it, but even I have to admit, it had it's moments where it... lagged.

Personally, my most hated FF is no surprise really... FFX. I really, really, really, REALLY HATE, DISPISE AND LOATHE THIS FF! And I suppose I also hate FFX-2. Why? Simple, what made FFX so damn special, that a sequel had to be made for it? I've already listed my reasons for hating FFX, from the lack of story (based around a religion? If I wanted to play a game based on religion, I'd find a copy of the Wisdom Tree games. Then I'd go kill myself for playing them.), lack of character (Tidus - A blonde, hyperactive boofhead, who has weapons of... water? The Excalibur in FFX, was the sword of Water!), sound (Voice actors... I HATE VOICE ACTORS!! and FFX's voice acting sucked worse than a vacuum machine.).

Anywayz, I've had my rant. Now I need to have some medication. Later.

Jamie
03-06-2004, 01:35 PM
I didn't like FF2. The whole stat system was just screwy. Before I knew what was going on I was already 4 hours into the game when I finally realized, "Hey this girl has no attack accuracy whatsoever." So I gave it back to my friend.

Wattson
03-06-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by denzil_shinra
kk....final fantasy 7 woz da best....then came final fantasy 8 (piece of sh*t)

VII, the best?
Its battle system was just okay, and character development (stat wise) was non-existant, if I remember correctly. And materia-wise? I won't begin to understand how a little shiny blue ball in my sword lets me use the other green ball next to it to hit everyone? What's up with that?

(actually, by no means do I hate VII, but it would've been better for it and VIII to have switched places. Then I wouldn't have been as let down over VII following the best FF, VI)

That's my little rant for the day.

Azwethinkweiz
03-06-2004, 06:04 PM
i am sorry but square enix must have temporaraly sacked their staff and hired chimps because FFX-2 was the worst i mean how low can they stoop. They included chats about breast size and incestuous (i think thats how you spell it) cousins (brother and yuna). Olso they got rid of the chocobo music which i usually sing along to with the lyrics courtesy of www newgrounds.com and they got rid of the traditional fanfare, i guess thats because Noubu didnt work on it. All the creatures are the same as in FFX i dont expect them to change them totally but add some new spines or a second row of teeth or something other than making them bigger with different names. i only played simply because it was a sequal to FFX (which was no masterpiece itself) i had high hopes for this game but they were crushed. Did Honorbi sakaguchi work on this on because his name is not in the credits.

this is my longest post

Darth Revan
03-07-2004, 04:31 AM
Hironobu Sakaguchi is no longer heading the Final Fantasy series, as he has been sacked from Square Enix. In regards to the music, Nobuo Uematsu is still in charge, but it looks like he has two others vying for his role, in charge of the music, Junya Nakamo and Msashi Hamauzu.

Cascara
03-07-2004, 12:46 PM
Well I dont care who's in charge as long as we dont have to put up with that shaft music from X-2 again!:notgood:

Durendal
03-07-2004, 04:12 PM
Just forget X-2 ever happened, block it out of your memories and simply look forward to FFXII and better times for all.

I've not played X-2 but have seen my friend play it and have no desire to play it. Also the fact that FFX was one of my least enjoyabe game experiences contributes to the fact that I will never play X-2, if only to stand up for my principals. Or some such other load of bollocks that don't really mean anything.

Cascara
03-07-2004, 05:43 PM
What?:erm:
If I'm not mistaken this is were you share the worst ff and why it wasnt as good as the others right?
Anyways this is boring!
Im off!:notgood:

Strife-x
03-08-2004, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by zell86
Well I dont care who's in charge as long as we dont have to put up with that shaft music from X-2 again!:notgood:

couldn't of put it better myself:lol ROFLMAO:lol

Felch_master
03-11-2004, 12:13 PM
FF8 rates as my all time worst. Dull story, rubbish characters, crappy magic/weapon system/boring subquests.

Cascara
03-11-2004, 12:36 PM
For the good of the worlds harmony as we know it Im just going to pretend that I didnt hear that!!!!!!:notgood: :notgood: :notgood:


And were the fuck is my sig

Felch_master
03-11-2004, 12:43 PM
Why not persuade me to the contrary then. Convince me that ff8 is good.

Cascara
03-11-2004, 12:57 PM
Alrighty then Feltch!!
Ok I Agree with some things you said like the dullness (if thats a word) of the story and that pain in the ass junctioning system witch is the worst of all ffs!
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND!!!!!!!!!
The limit breaks were kick ass, Cgs were good, it had some of the hardest bosses and enemys, And ok squall was a lame ass but their was Zell!
I personally think that this is one of the better ffs specially compared to the more recent stuff like *coughs*x-2 (shhh):eye:

mrmonkeyman
03-11-2004, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Xiahou Dun
I seem to recall hearing that Square made FFVIII to appeal to the percentage of gamers that were women.
You're wrong, and stupid for believing that.

Cascara
03-11-2004, 01:05 PM
Well Im not a women and I loved it!!

By the way Where the fuck are all our sigs?:eek: :eek:

Alpott
03-11-2004, 01:20 PM
IM GONNA SAY FF X BECAUSE IT TOOK AWAY 10 HOURS OF MY LIFE, THE WORST GAME EVER!!!!

THE MUSIC WAS HARDLY FF IX, ROCK MUSIC!? THATS NOT NOBUO UEMTASU!! "Unless if you count the -Black Mages-"

STORYLINE? NO REALLY THAT WAS A QUESTION, "LETS KILL SIN" OH RIGHT.............NOW WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????

p.s TIDUS SUCKS ASS!!

Thank you for letting me express this pleasent opinion on how great FF X is -soaked in heavy sarcasm-

Tokiko
03-11-2004, 01:32 PM
"LETS KILL SIN"
If you truly assume that this sums up the whole storyline of FFX, I'll be so bold and do the same for some other games:
FFVII: "Let's kill Sephiroth!"
FFVIII: "Let's kill Edea!"
FFIX: "Let's kill Kuja!"

There, happy now, you little hate-filled blob? And yes, the music was hardly FFIX. It was rather FFX.

Oh. PS Cloud sucks ass

Alpott
03-11-2004, 01:39 PM
I said all that in a blind rage/hate too FF X......cause it sucks....

i said nothing bad about other FFs



JUST FF X, CAUSE IT SUCKS!

cya

Cascara
03-11-2004, 04:08 PM
Hey pal I enjoy ffX you suck!
Just kidding!:eye: :eye:

Tokiko
03-11-2004, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Alpott87
I said all that in a blind rage/hate too FF X......cause it sucks....

i said nothing bad about other FFs



JUST FF X, CAUSE IT SUCKS!

cya
Yes, trust me, I read that. Maybe you should reread what I said. It's basically: Of course you can simplify a game's story to X versus Y, but you can do this with about every game. Hence the examples.
And trust me, I know this was written in a blind rage to FFX. It has "dumb blind stupid hateful rant with no backing up" written all over it.

(to, not too)

Felch_master
03-11-2004, 05:10 PM
No dice Zell. Didnt convince me. FFX and FFX-2 are cool. Not the greatest but a better way to spend tme in my opinion than ff8. Thank you please.

Strife-x
03-11-2004, 05:38 PM
uh felch, i disagree, x-2 was not in anyway better then ff8, x might be about as good as 8, but they both sucked ass in their own right but X-2 sucked just so bad, i mean if somthing was doing some sucking x-2 would do it cause it sucks, and its stupid:notgood:

Tokiko
03-11-2004, 05:48 PM
Care to tell us why?

Felch_master
03-11-2004, 05:55 PM
Im currently enjoying ffx-2. While i can agree that it isnt the best its not nearly the worst.

"i mean if somthing was doing some sucking x-2 would do it cause it sucks, and its stupid"

Ay? What is that supposed to mean? Just because it doesnt take itself quite as seriously as the previous games doesnt make it bad. Mind you none of the dialogue is as good as ffx.

Tidus- "Yeah then onto Macerena temple!"
Wakka- "Macalania"
Tidus- "AIIIII!"

Pure comedy genius. I laughed quite hard at that cheese. :D

Top Cat
03-11-2004, 06:03 PM
Well, X-2 seems to be leading the pack.
I haven't played X-2, but I am planning on buying it, regardless of how crap you people think it is- and it may well be.

Anyway, FFVII hasn't got any votes yet. Hmmm, I wonder why?

Tokiko
03-11-2004, 06:05 PM
Same for FF1... which is really odd... I mean... you complain about FFX-2's story and characters, and still like FF1...?

Bahamut ZERO
03-11-2004, 06:34 PM
The worst FF... Well, I have heard bad things about a lot of the sub titles outside the main series. Crystal Chronicles, Mystic Quest, etc, but I have never played these so cannot say.

I can't even say WORST FF, I think I'd prefer the term "Least Favourite" and at the moment, it's Final Fantasy V because it's the one I've played the longest without finishing. The storyline is not as deep as the other games, and the battle system feels more awkward than the others.

Final Fantasy 1 would come close because I haven't played it as long as the others... Again, no real storyline, no real development of characters, but an easy to understand battle system.

Cascara
03-11-2004, 07:00 PM
As for ffcc yeah that thing sucks alright! without multi player its just not even worth wasting a breath of good air about. I think square should of just named it cc without the ff in it. It can have its moments but yeah other than the gba link thing it has nothing going for it at all!!

I did kinda enjoy Mystic Quest though!;)

Strife-x
03-12-2004, 10:41 AM
here's my complete review for x-2 which shows why i dislike x-2(won't say hate, its to harsh)

storyline:
okay, what storyline?:confused: there's a BIG lacking in storyline here, it's like "OOOOOHH, we are sphere hunters, lets hunt spheres with our slutty thongs showing!!!" of course near the end the storyline picked up and had one, but it was pretty basic here, nothing really special or good, pretty mediocre

battle system:
now the battle system i liked, was very fast and had class changes, i wouldn't mind seeing this in another ff(one of its only redeeming factor)

graphics:
awesome as expected

music:
o god, words can't explain the lameness of the music in this game, except for 1000 words and Real em. it was pretty gay. some of the tracks were "alright" but most were gay and didn't fit the scene or the game

Fun factor:
now it was fun while playing it doesn't take from the fact that there is no replay factor at all, i always play my ff's at least 3-5 times over, i even played ff8 4 times over (ff7 like 50!!) but i have no want at all to play it over again

that about it, if there's somthing i missed i'd like to here it, and i can back all this up with examples so try me.
:eye:*looks around for someone to say somthing contradictory* :eye:
didn't think so

Cascara
03-12-2004, 12:25 PM
Im gonna have to come to this games defense *wonders what the fuck he's doing* and say that the weak points in the story line were due to the fact that it is a sequal the first ff sequal ever I might add! But other than that I pretty much agree with you!;)

Tokiko
03-12-2004, 01:00 PM
@Strife
No replay factor? Are you serious? I know I missed tons of events and missions and items and dress spheres the first time through the game, didn't get the "good" ending etc...
FFX-2 does more for replay-value than most other FFs before it. O_o

Cascara
03-12-2004, 01:52 PM
Yeah X-2 is by far not my favorite ff but it does have very high replay value! Not just because you have to get everything but because that battle system is just too kick ass to not try again. I usually dont stick up for this game at all because I dont think its as good as the others but that doesnt mean it sucks. This is just my personal opinion about X-2. But yes it does have high replay for one reason or another! ;) ;) ;)

Strife-x
03-13-2004, 05:08 PM
maybe for you guys but not for me, the reason is cause i did almost everything the first time, got like 87% complete, and i would start over if it wasn't for the stupid way they did new game+ you get all dresspheres and grids and items but not the same level, come on thats one of the basic rules of new game+ i can't play a game over if it has new game + without keeping your levels:notgood:

oh i missed one more thing in my review:
NO FF FANFARE, THE BASTARDS HAVE THE BALLS TO TAKE AWAY THE GLORIOUS FF FANFARE *UNINTELLIGIBLE YELLING*
thats about it :whatever:

Savior_Sephiroth
03-13-2004, 06:08 PM
FFX 10-2 (in my opinion) straight out sucks. They should not of even thought of making a sequal for FFX:notgood: I am afraid FF7-2 might be the same if there is one......

Marceline
03-13-2004, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Diorama
I don't really dislike any of them, I like them all infact. But the one I guess I had the most problems with was FF6. How many characters do you need? I like variety, but thats just annoying having......13 characters at your disposal. Also the problem with having so many characters is many of the don't get developed properly, thus you rarely use them.



Name an FF with character development on par with VI's. True, there are some characters that are more there then anything else, like Gogo, Umaro, and Mog, but all of the other characters have godly storylines. There are 14 characters in VI, not 13, so maybe you missed some stuff?

As for my vote.......I went with V. It's the only Final Fantasy I haven't beat. I've just never had the motivation to, and I suppose that makes it my least favorite.

Top Cat
03-13-2004, 06:20 PM
IV hasn't got any votes yet. It's strange, that. The only three FFs without any votes are I, IV and VII. I can understand VII, but I and IV I can't. Is it just nostalgic memories?

Azwethinkweiz
03-13-2004, 06:42 PM
any one who ever voted for FF7 should be lined up and shot in the stomach and left to die!!!11

Tokiko
03-13-2004, 07:09 PM
After reading the last post, I immediately voted for FFVII. Excuse me, but it was way too tempting. :P

Azwethinkweiz
03-13-2004, 07:11 PM
noooooooo!! you ruined the perfectness of FF7's perfect plan!!! :D

Tokiko
03-13-2004, 07:36 PM
Thank you. :)

But worst FF is FFI... :(

Maliris-San
03-13-2004, 08:16 PM
You never played it through.
I�m sure there are lots of character developments and... uhm... cool NPC�s... and... perhaps there will be a storyline?! :erm:

It �s just too cute. And the dialogues were so funny.
"No one touches my princess!" It had class! :)

I think it�s quite good that even FF1 had so many fans so Square made more and more of them! O_o and there will be more!! MOOOOORE!!! X_x

YAY, sorry I�m tired. My post starts to annoy. See ya!

"Lady Auron" :cool:

Marceline
03-13-2004, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by ieatmako
IV hasn't got any votes yet. It's strange, that. The only three FFs without any votes are I, IV and VII. I can understand VII, but I and IV I can't. Is it just nostalgic memories?

IV is fantastic.

Nostalgia ain't got nothin' to do with it.

Final Fantasy is fantastic too, but it's a different sort of fantastic.

Savior_Sephiroth
03-13-2004, 10:59 PM
Here is a question to ask :D ! Is there anyone in this Shrine, that does NOT like FFVII???

Tokiko
03-14-2004, 07:12 AM
YES ME. Because people always ask this question and expect it to be a rhetorical one. Because they can't believe anyone in this world didn't enjoy FFVII. Well, sadly I didn't, and I guess this hype is partly responsible for it...

Strife-x
03-14-2004, 06:05 PM
*not very insultntly*(is that a word)
You bastard:whatever: :eye:

Marceline
03-14-2004, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Savior_Sephiroth
Here is a question to ask :D ! Is there anyone in this Shrine, that does NOT like FFVII???

I wouldn't say I dislike 7. I would say that it'd overrated, though.

It has some of the weakest character development in any rpg I've ever played, and I despise the ending.

I loved the first disc, but after that, it just all sort of fell apart, for me.

Durendal
03-14-2004, 07:39 PM
I used to love the ending to FFVII, but now with advent children coming out I'm not liking that ending at all now.

Top Cat
03-21-2004, 06:54 PM
If I hadn't already voted for 8 I'd vote for 1. It's state of voteslessness is starting to annoy me.
Anyway, I thought VII's ending as pretty good, and as AC is set 2 years after the events in VII then the *final* ending to VII isn't applicable anyway.
But it does leave a lot to the imagination...

Garnet aka Dagger
03-22-2004, 06:14 PM
I dont like Final Fantasy X. Its my least favorite. I dont like the idea of using voices in an FF and I cant stand Tidus. And it was so extremely easy,except for the Monster Area part. But I was expecting Omega weapon to be really hard ;s. Instead,it only took one hit and he was dead. o.o And the ending bosses were simple too. I think it was stupid that they had a "You cant die even if you wanted too" on the last boss by giving you Auto-Life.You didnt even need Autolife.

Felch_master
03-23-2004, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by Garnet aka Dagger
I dont like the idea of using voices in an FF and I cant stand Tidus.

Dont like the voices? I think they are great. The voice acting is pretty good i think. Surpasses Shen Mu by a mile. By the way, my fave quote from that is

"Hey Ryo, will you play with me?"

Makes me laugh every time.

Cascara
03-24-2004, 01:08 AM
I just think the vioce acting takes away from the storys emotion because silence just makes things seem so morbid and I personally like that about ff. but just because voices suck doesnt mean the game sucks! still a very gloomy story! I love it.;)

Hey is it me or does the wink;) seem different? Dont tell me their messin around w/ the smiles too!!!! wait a minute Im crazy and off topic woooooooops!!!!:eye: :eye: :notgood: :eye: