its not out in england til august according to most sites but is there any extra cost for playing it as well as the broadband bill like seven quid a month or somthing

Yes there is a monthly fee with FFXI. I'm not sure what it is in your funky european monies though.

Also, I have heard nothing about the game coming to Europe.

it says it will be out in europe in august (too far away)

What says that? Because the Square-enix website does not say that.

Not exactly sure how much you Europeans will pay but it'll be around 10-13 pounds, euros, whatever (plus tax =p).

im sure it said it will be out sometime in august on one of the wabsites it might of been a preorder on amazon im not sure.

It's roughly $14 US per month, after the initial "free" period of about a month when you include all the fees.

Oh, and one more thing, it takes a hell of a long time to level up in Bastok, so if you do play, do not choose Bastok as your nation of allegiance.

it seems like its due to be released 17/9/04 over here, but it was the 28th of august.

Windurst seems like the best place to start as in lvling up the first few levels.

Europe is getting FFXI a little after we get Chains of Promethia out here. It's going to come with Chains like how it came with ZIlart when it was released in the US.

Lucky bastards. ;)

In the US, it's about $13 a month, and an extra dollar for each additional character.

Well, it seems the rumour about us getting it free is not true. =( But at least it comes out with all expansions attatched. =)

too much

The only thing Square Enix has stated about the European release of FFXI on their website (www.square-enix-europe.com), is that it is due to be released in September to coincide with the Japanese and American launch of the Chains of Promathia expansion. Although an exact date is unknown, apparently CoP is due on the 16th of September, so anytime after then would be a logical assumption.

As for the monthly fee for the European version, once again Square Enix is yet to announce the pricing structure, but there is one clue - in the application form for the currently in progress FFXI Euro Beta Test, one of the questions asked was how much you were willing to spend per month on the game, with the maximum amount option listed as 16 euros or more, so I assume the monthly fee would be around the 15-16 euro mark, which equates to around roughly the same amount for the fees for the Japanese and US versions.

EDIT: I know I mentioned that it seemed FFXI wouldn't be coming to Australia, but now it seems Electronics Boutique have gone and changed their minds and now have it down for a September 16 Aussie release! Oh well, at least I now have it on pre-order.... Roll on September! :D

Originally posted by Odin
It's roughly $14 US per month, after the initial "free" period of about a month when you include all the fees.

Oh, and one more thing, it takes a hell of a long time to level up in Bastok, so if you do play, do not choose Bastok as your nation of allegiance.


Oh really ? Then how come I leveled my Paladin to level 10 in roughly 2 days and without playing all day ? Bastok is a very good place to level early, that is all bullshit lol You just need to know what to fight, that's all.

So, I thought they were going to realese the European one with all expansions and the HDD attatched...or is that just bullshit?

The PS2 release seems very unlikely for FFXI... however, Europe will be getting all 3 Final Fantasy XI sets (Original, Zilart, Chains) in one package.

Originally posted by Evad D'Aragon



Oh really ? Then how come I leveled my Paladin to level 10 in roughly 2 days and without playing all day ? Bastok is a very good place to level early, that is all bullshit lol You just need to know what to fight, that's all.

Not only that, it's also insanely easy to get to Rank 3 in Bastok.

A linkshell buddy of mine changed allegience, and got back to rank 3 in a just a few hours.

Bastok is a nation to pick.

Originally posted by Ndi


Not only that, it's also insanely easy to get to Rank 3 in Bastok.

A linkshell buddy of mine changed allegience, and got back to rank 3 in a just a few hours.

Bastok is a nation to pick.

You are partially right. It's about as equally easy in San d'Oria.

The reason is quite simple.


Bastok and San d'Oria are nearer to each other than Windurst is to either of them.

And so, most Bastokers AND San d'Orians go to Windurst last, so there are usually more people that are willing to fight the Dragon in Giddeaus than anywhere. It's not always like that but it's a commen trend.

The second most often fought Dragon is probably the one in the Palborough Mines... Because when most Windurstians know that it is easier to fight the Warchief in Fort Ghelsba than go to extract the sand in the Mines ( because of the more aggressive monsters in the parts of the Mines where you have to go mine ), they tend to go to Bastok in last.

Also, another thing to concern yourself with depending on own you intend to make a living in the game...Which country has which guilds. Bastok has the Smithing guilds and is near 3 of the Mines in the game. So if you want to make a living this way, you'd best be a Bastoker. However, if you intend to make a living by fishing or harvesting, you'd best join Windurst instead. Lastly, if you want to be a lumberjack/woodworker, you'd best be San d'Orian.

i would love to play ffxi, but like i said, its too expensive...

Originally posted by Sephiroth's Brother
i would love to play ffxi, but like i said, its too expensive...

It's really not as bad as it seems.

I used to spend a lot more on video games before I bought FFXI, but since I play it so much, I only buy new ones every so often.

So when you do the math, FFXI actually saves me some money.

I understand why people are put off by the monthly fee, though.

After browsing Square Enix Europe's site, I noticed they've added some more information regarding it's European release, and in particular, the actual cost for the game as well as the monthly fees, which has a few surprises:

Excerpt from the News section of Square Enix Europe's website (www.square-enix-europe.com):

The European retail package will consist of 7 CD-ROMs and is priced around 50 Euros. Subscribers will receive their first 30 days of access without charge. Aside from Internet service provider access charges, the free trial period will begin on the date players create their first Content ID or character. Any additional Content IDs purchased are also available without charge until the end of the free trial period. After 30 days, players can continue to play FINAL FANTASY XI by paying a monthly fee of $12.95 (USD) for one FINAL FANTASY XI character and can create up to 15 additional characters for an additional charge of $1.00 (USD) per character, per month.

Tetra Master, the online version of the wildly popular and addictive mini-game from FINAL FANTASY IX, is also included in the package and is available for $1.00 (USD) per month.

Payment for all monthly access charges must be made by a credit, debit or prepaid card with the Visa or Mastercard logo.

Hmmm, interesting. Looks like payment is going to be billed in US dollars regardless of where your subscription is billed from (except Japan), plus they're now also finally aknowledging alternaltive payment forms such as debit cards and prepaid credit cards (where as before Square Enix were only stating that actual Visa and Mastercard credit cards were accepted).

Very good news indeed, as I was worried about how the exchange rate for Australian dollars would affect me if billing was to be made in Euro Dollars (as the value of the transient Aussie dollar is currently worth more against the Greenback than the Euro), but it looks like I have nothing really to worry about.

That's interesting indeed, it will offer a nice alternative for those that aren't at ease with using a credit card, or don't have one...Of course, it's not my case, but anyway...

Originally posted by ultima weapon
Not exactly sure how much you Europeans will pay but it'll be around 10-13 pounds, euros, whatever (plus tax =p).

no it will be about 7/8 pounds and no tax


would affect me if billing was to be made in Euro Dollars

no such thing as euro dollars


The European retail package will consist of 7 CD-ROMs and is priced around 50 Euros

lol if you pay that much for it your stupid i'm gettin mine for 25 quid

rofl, n00bs.

I can level a character from 1 to ten in less than a day. Something less than 8 easily. secind day with a character I can go to Valkurm Dunes and im from San d'Oria. You just need to get used to it and know what you can and cannot fight.

Originally posted by Akira_Strider
rofl, n00bs.

I can level a character from 1 to ten in less than a day. Something less than 8 easily. secind day with a character I can go to Valkurm Dunes and im from San d'Oria. You just need to get used to it and know what you can and cannot fight.


Well, seeing that you seem to be a noob of the forums, you'd have been better post a more well-thought reply than something like this. Not exactly the best way to get yourself acquainted anywhere...


But, in short, yeah, it's very possible to get a character to level 10 in one day...assuming you have all the day free of course, and depending on the job you are. No matter what you say, trying to solo a White Mage to 10 will be much harder than a Paladin, for example. So. while soloing to level 10 is usually the way to go, in some cases this may not be true.

As for the "other" Akira :

Well, Ultima Weapon has a right not to know every conversion table of every currency of the world. There was no need to call him stupid for simply that fact. Especially since I believe 25 Euros is way too cheap for FFXI...35 or 40 would have been more appropriate, considering the price of the other locations and considering you are getting the other two expansions as well.

Yes, 'n00b of the forum'...*looks around*

I leveld a white mage to level 7, dark knight to level 12, Ninja to level 25, Warrior to level 31, theif to level 10 and I forget what else. Im not a n00b at FFXI..so I win.

I know the WHM was hardest, but still leveling a ninja or warrior is hard because of the long down times when you fight monsters that are a bit to strong. I do that sense you can level quicker.


But yea, my post earlier did kinda come off the wrong way, sorry.

Heh, I never said you lacked experience at FFXI, I just meant starting your very first post here with "rofl, noobs" isn't exactly the best way to get introduce to people. But it's no big matter.

Warrior is easy to level to 10. Yeah, there might be a downtime, but if you add the time required to fight the monster and the downtime, it's still much faster than, say, even killing the monster as a White Mage. Oh, if you throw in the fact it might be the first job you level, yeah, it will be hard. But that would be because of one's personal lack of experience, instead of the job itself.


Later on, once you leveled Warrior a bit, if you take it as a sub-job, you actually find out that leveling any other melee comes usually much easier. I may not know about everyone else, but leveling Monk and especially Paladin to level 10 went like a charm...Subbing Warrior made quite the difference, not only because of the slight stat boost and my personnal experience, but also because of the capped combat skills.

The moral of the story ? Warriors might be a dime a dozen, but there is a reason to this. It is the most used sub-job, and with reason, it goes well with just about any other melee job, even if not always the best choice. ;)

Yea, very true.

Im going WAR/NIN all the way.
Ninja for dual wield and Utsusemi Ichi and than Utsusemi Ni. Some other good skills to. War is a great class.

Considering the other way around is more common, it is quite fun to see a Warrior/Ninja. It is quite a good combo as well, especially if dual wielding 2 axes. It would be able to do some damage, pull, and even tank to a good degree, although probably not as well as a Paladin or Ninja, seeing as it would require more skill to be effective and be a lot more costly. Quite the dream of every meleer. As a Paladin/Warrior (Level 47 as of now), I'm expected to do nothing but tanking and saving lives. At least as a Warrior, you can always do something else and live it the way you want. Oh, not that I dislike being a hero as Paladin but still...


However, to get back on the subject at hand, namely the cost of the game...the best answer would always be "it depends on what kind of game you like" and no one can give the perfect answer. One will always think this is too expensive, while another will think the contrary.

One thing we can say, though, is that if you like to role-play and chat and interact with others, you'll find your niche with this game, no doubt about it.

Once you hit 74, NIN loses it's tanking uberness, and WAR/NIN and RDM/NIN shine.

though RDM/NIN had a lot of trouble getting hate, it is quite powerful (utsusemi, stoneskin, phalanx, blink <3).

yeah.

I would be curious to know why exactly Ninjas lose their "tanking uberness" just a level prior to the current cap.

Also, Red Mage/Ninja ? Well, you said it yourself, it would probably be powerful it terms of damage absorbing, but how exactly would it be able to gain hate in the first place ? By healing or nuking ? That would reduce the time they'd need to place all those abilities for tanking anyway, not counting the MP loss, although Convert can arrange that...I don't think it's exactly the best option, but I can understand it can work in a pinch.


All in all, you heard me say it earlier, the Paladin/Warrior is the ideal tank, assuming the player behind the Paladin has any skill at all.I can understand why someone would prefer Ninjas over Paladins when they have partied with many sub-par Paladins though. Paladin/Warrior has all the tools you need to glue the mobs on you, and you have the defense to back it up. But, true enough, you can't always have the "ideal" parties, so you can't only rely on Paladins for tanking, just as sometimes you'll take a Red Mage or two instead of a White Mage for healing.

Another reason Im going WAR/NIN is because people expect a NIN to spam the blink(utsusemi ichi) when it takes 30seconds to recast and it costs 4k(approx) for a stack of 99 Shihei{sp} powders. But like I said, im in it for a few abilities liek dual weild. It makes an awsome Solo'r too(war/nin).

I have played it long enough that I am a Uber tank. sometimes u come across the worst PAL's ever, ones that cant hold a mop if there lifr depended on it or are Galka PAL who have no MP and shit like that.

Plus my LS has no Ninja's over lvl 5'ish, but a 60+ DRK, 60+ WHM, 55+ Ranger and so on.

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On topic, if you have a job, make minimum wage and work 20hours you can still afford it for 4 months. Or if you buy food everyday, even though its not really neccessary, you can afford to play FFXI at no loss.

If ur one of the above, money should be NO ISSUE.

Originally posted by Evad D'Aragon
I would be curious to know why exactly Ninjas lose their "tanking uberness" just a level prior to the current cap.


level 37 is Utsusemi: Ni with NIN.

RDM/NIN is best tanking stuff solo. :P

They're able to take on low level HNMs on their own *_*

Originally posted by Evad D'Aragon



Well, seeing that you seem to be a noob of the forums, you'd have been better post a more well-thought reply than something like this. Not exactly the best way to get yourself acquainted anywhere...


But, in short, yeah, it's very possible to get a character to level 10 in one day...assuming you have all the day free of course, and depending on the job you are. No matter what you say, trying to solo a White Mage to 10 will be much harder than a Paladin, for example. So. while soloing to level 10 is usually the way to go, in some cases this may not be true.

As for the "other" Akira :

Well, Ultima Weapon has a right not to know every conversion table of every currency of the world. There was no need to call him stupid for simply that fact. Especially since I believe 25 Euros is way too cheap for FFXI...35 or 40 would have been more appropriate, considering the price of the other locations and considering you are getting the other two expansions as well.

i didnt say he was stupid i said paying 50 euros is stupid when you could get it for about 25 pounds. Try reading things properly befor you reply to something

Originally posted by AKIRA150


i didnt say he was stupid i said paying 50 euros is stupid when you could get it for about 25 pounds. Try reading things properly befor you reply to something


Originally posted by AKIRA150


lol if you pay that much for it your stupid i'm gettin mine for 25 quid

You're one to talk, you did write, "if you pay 50 euros for it you're stupid", that implies that he was stupid to do it. You should check out how you write things yourself. So try reading your own posts before shooting yourself in the foot.

Oh, and proper grammer would help as well, but hey...


Originally posted by PlasmaTorture


level 37 is Utsusemi: Ni with NIN.



Ah...so let me get this straight...they lose their tanking uberness because their best tanking ability gets improved ? You'll have to explain this one to me lol

Originally posted by Evad D'Aragon




You're one to talk, you did write, "if you pay 50 euros for it you're stupid", that implies that he was stupid to do it. You should check out how you write things yourself. So try reading your own posts before shooting yourself in the foot.

Oh, and proper grammer would help as well, but hey...



Ah...so let me get this straight...they lose their tanking uberness because their best tanking ability gets improved ? You'll have to explain this one to me lol

well as he didnt do it it implies nothing as you cant even get it in the eu yet. and do you realy think i give a crap about grammer?

Man, you're dumb, shut up already.

Anyways, PLD TARUS tanks your ass. <3

Originally posted by AKIRA150


well as he didnt do it it implies nothing as you cant even get it in the eu yet. and do you realy think i give a crap about grammer?


Oh, I guess you haven't heard about importing...oh well. It's really fun, the principle is simple, and it allows you to get stuff you normally wouldn't be able to get otherwise. You ought to try sometime, I'm sure you'll like it.


And actually giving a "crap" about grammar will make you far more believable. It shows you care enough to put effort in your arguments. Otherwise, it just shows you're dumb.


Originally posted by MogKnight

Anyways, PLD TARUS tanks your ass. <3


I have never seen a Taru Paladin live in action, I HAVE to see you next time I log lol

Originally posted by Evad D'Aragon

Ah...so let me get this straight...they lose their tanking uberness because their best tanking ability gets improved ? You'll have to explain this one to me lol

At level 74 your subjob is level 37.

that help? :O

and Taru tanks in general (NIN or PLD) are sexy.

Originally posted by PlasmaTorture


At level 74 your subjob is level 37.

that help? :O

and Taru tanks in general (NIN or PLD) are sexy.

Then they would lose their "tanking uberness" way before level 74 ...seeing as their sub-job level is always half of their main...I don't understand why you said they "lose it at level 74".

lol Yeah, I want to see a Taru tank. ;)

Originally posted by Evad D'Aragon



Oh, I guess you haven't heard about importing...oh well. It's really fun, the principle is simple, and it allows you to get stuff you normally wouldn't be able to get otherwise. You ought to try sometime, I'm sure you'll like it.


And actually giving a "crap" about grammar will make you far more believable. It shows you care enough to put effort in your arguments. Otherwise, it just shows you're dumb.



I have never seen a Taru Paladin live in action, I HAVE to see you next time I log lol

lol yeah i am dumb but i have got a reason for that and even if he did import it it wouldnt work

Originally posted by Evad D'Aragon


Then they would lose their "tanking uberness" way before level 74 ...seeing as their sub-job level is always half of their main...I don't understand why you said they "lose it at level 74".

lol Yeah, I want to see a Taru tank. ;)

Other jobs can sub NIN at level 74 and use Utsusemi: Ni, which is pretty much the only reason NINs can tank well.

Originally posted by AKIRA150


lol yeah i am dumb but i have got a reason for that and even if he did import it it wouldnt work

If you are talking about the PS2 version...you are right.

BUT if you are talking about the PC version...you are wrong. All you have to do is give a false addresse of location, then give your normal billing address. Then it will work. There are many players from France on Cerberus, a few of them are even on my LS.

never thought about that lol

Well it's true that most people don't know that the NTSC-PAL limitations doesn't apply to PCs...therefore, yes, you can import the PC version from North America. The only "bug" is that it will ask where you "live" and you can't answer a European country with the NA version, yet when you are asked a billing address with your credit card, you can give an Address from anywhere in the world. So, basically, give a fake address then your real one and you are set. However, since the European release is so close now, you might as well simply wait lol

yeah iknow pitty i didnt know that a few months ago lol but o well its worth waiting for

Hiya, im a Noob, Just wondering, as the games out now..How much does it actually cost a month?

Thanx

Welcome to the Forums! :)

Even though you're actually repeating a question that's already been answered earlier on this thread, I am a White Mage though, so I have to be generous and help people where I can. So anyway... ;)

The basic monthly charge for FFXI (for both the US and Europe/Australia) is $12.95 US for one character, per month. Any extra characters (up to 15) cost an extra $1 US per character a month. Note, you get the first month (thirty days actually) of access free though.

If you want to play the online version of Tetra Master, the card game from FFIX which is included with FFXI, then that is also an extra $1 US a month to play, although that is entirelly optional however.

As for the payment method, payment can only be made (at the moment) with a credit card, debit card or pre-paid credit card. Any of these options are acceptable, however, they MUST have either the MasterCard or Visa logo on them. Anything else won't work.

so thats somethin like �8.50 and about 65-70p for extra characters(not sure on the exact price tho)

oki thanx i thought $ was just american lol

Hi, Just to make a few things clear, FFXI was released in the uk on the 14th Sept 2004, with 7 cd's (incl 2 x expansion packs) it costs about �6 per month and additionals are about 50p, or �0.50.

Not sure what to make of the game yet not had enough playtime on it - but I guess I'll just have to wait and see!

you have to pay to play this game!? that's crap

Stop reviving old threads, whether Im a mod or not. Loki has left.

you have to pay to play this game!? that's crap

You run an MMORPG without paying to mantain the servers and give the GMs their salary, then.

You run an MMORPG without paying to mantain the servers and give the GMs their salary, then.
Teh bitch was just pwnt.