Hello everyone,
I just read the thread
Thread 78204

which is dedicated to the so called "Conan the Destroyer Complete score", an illegal MP3 compilation of unused pieces and known score of the same movie.

In fact it is nothing more than a redux version of the LEGAL recording by Elite Soundtracks, copyrighted in 2011, entitled "Conan the Destroyer, 2cd expanded score"
The titles are the same, placed in the same order but the MP3 compilation lacks the Suite and a many extras found on the second CD. Which means the MP3 addicts who made the illegal compilation simply ripped the prerelease version of this CD or had access to the same source. The order being the same as in the 1st CD, I'd say they ripped a prerelease.

I managed to get this record and it is leagues beyond the poorly rewritten and poorly played -and I must say highly overrated- "rerecording" with Nic Raine and the half asleep Prague Philharmonic.
In no way am I related to elitesoundtracks, but their idea of compiling for us all the ORIGINAL "tryouts" and "alternates"
is exactly what I was waiting for. INtrada/PRometheus have promised us a remaster of the original tracks and alternates, telling us the extras were yet unheard by the public but it's been almiost a year these extras are no longer a secret and I have listened to al of them on this elitesoundtrack release.

What I'm mad about with elitesoundtrack, is that they have "limited supply" which is kind of useless, this kind of release should be available in large quantities.
Here is the link:
CONAN THE DESTROYER - 2CD EXPANDED SCORE - LIMITED 500 - BASIL POLEDOURIS (http://www.elitesoundtracks.com/new_releases/conan_the_destroyer_2cd_expanded_score_limited_500 _basil_poledouris_P578.html)

After being infuriated with the overabundant publicity by Intrada for the lousy rerecordings (both), I finally put my hands on the compilation I was waiting for...unless Intrada wakes up and decides to do a quality remaster ...of the same expanded score found on the Elitesoundtrack CD "Conan the Destroyer 2CD expanded score" in multichannel.

Has anyone compared the rerecording wiith this expanded version?

Hmmm I could almost guarantee you the Elite Records version is from a bootleg source. Intrada are meant to be releasing the complete scores to both films this year sometime.

Hmmm I could almost guarantee you the Elite Records version is from a bootleg source. Intrada are meant to be releasing the complete scores to both films this year sometime.

How could it be bootleg sourced if it clearly mentions "2011 elite soundtracks copyright" ?
Do you mean they legalized a bootleg? they also clearly say they've remastered the entire score and extras.
On another thread I saw a version supposedly coming from "cimmerian records" (I checked on cimmerian records' site and no mention of copyright) which resembles this one by elite soundtracks.
If you managed to compare both, then I'm all ears.

How could it be bootleg sourced if it clearly mentions "2011 elite soundtracks copyright" ?
Do you mean they legalized a bootleg? they also clearly say they've remastered the entire score and extras.
On another thread I saw a version supposedly coming from "cimmerian records" (I checked on cimmerian records' site and no mention of copyright) which resembles this one by elite soundtracks.
If you managed to compare both, then I'm all ears.

From the look of the link to the site, it's over seas... Europe. Chances are even if you were able to order it you would ripped off or as dean1700 said its just a bad bootleg that has been floating around for sometime now. Intrada will be releasing both Barbarian and Destroyer complete this year. Just keep checking Intrada...

From the look of the link to the site, it's over seas... Europe. Chances are even if you were able to order it you would ripped off or as dean1700 said its just a bad bootleg that has been floating around for sometime now. Intrada will be releasing both Barbarian and Destroyer complete this year. Just keep checking Intrada...

Ordering from Europe isn't a constant ripoff as you say, but I'm stunned to see you and Dean1700 say it's a bootleg .
Can anyone copyright a bootleg? Because they copyrighted it.

As ofr Intrada, I'm VERY AFRAID to see what is going to happen with the remasters, when I see what happened with the Barbarian and Destroyer rerecordings: the sound saturates too much and there are important technical mistakes (check my posts #77 http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/conan-destroyer-2011-re-recording-basil-poledouris-104902/4.html#post2030179 and #78 http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/conan-destroyer-2011-re-recording-basil-poledouris-104902/4.html#post2030482 ) concerning the rewriting and rearranging of the score.
Ok we're sepaking of the upcoming remastering of the originals, not a rerecording, but still, Prometheus, Intrada and Tadlow have made poor choices up to now.
People who can't hear that the orchestra is half asleep in 3/4 of the score or who deny the mistakes I pointed out in the previous posts linked above simply have sh** in their ears or are impressed with anything as long as it is produced with the help of modern sound technology . The sound is effectively very neat but the playing by the Prague Philharmonic is far from good compared to the radio symphony of Rome , it reminds me of practise sessions in the summer when no one is really into it, not having trained or waiting for the session to end. Yes I did have pro classical training.
I know for a fact some pro orchestra members often disrespect what isn't considered as classical music taught in conservatories and do not put much effort into it . I'm glad it isn't always the case, but I'm surprised of all this fake praise I hear about the rerecordings. I asked many friends of mine amongst whom there are several concert artists and they all told me the sound of the rerecordings was impressive but the playing dull and boring, plus the tempo was way off , far too slow, and that it is common for some conductors to claim that such and such composer "would have liked" to play it slower, or this way or that way.
Listen to Bach according to Yo Yo Ma and also Glenn Gould's versions, it's THEIR interpretation, not what Bach intended us to hear. It may interest a certain public, but it's NOT faithful to what the composer wanted.
Concerning movie scores we want something faithful to the original score, to the composer's spirit and style, and to the film's tone.

End of rant for the rerecordings.

For the remasters, since the sound of the rerecordings saturates from time to time and some excessive volume bursts as well, relatively rare, it would be my only fear concerning the sound quality. I hope there will be nothing left aside and that it will be well remixed , cleaned and remastered .
Apart from that, having listened to elite soundtrack's destroyer which was relatively clear in sound , I wonder what their version of the BArbarian sounds like, compared to the "cimmerian" version. If the following posts are written just to tell me to forget about it and wait for Intrada, I will consider these replies as mere publicity, because I've seen too much publicity for Prometheus , Intrada and Tadlow on movie OST forums by members who didn't understand anything and company officials alltogether .
If it happens that the elite soundtrack conan the barbarian 2cd expanded score 500limited is any sort of upsampled or downsampled garbage, please let me know...only if you have listened to it! You'll thus help me and others to not buy some crap if it really is the case... I'm waiting for proof.

Ordering from Europe isn't a constant ripoff as you say, but I'm stunned to see you and Dean1700 say it's a bootleg .
Can anyone copyright a bootleg? Because they copyrighted it.

I'm stunned to see that you believe something is legally "copyrighted" just because someone printed the word "copyright" on a piece of paper. THOUSANDS of illegal, unauthorized, bootleg recordings say "copyright **** [year]." Anyone with a few hundred dollars can have a few thousand CD's pressed, and nice color booklets made for them, even with the word "copyright" all over every one of them. It doesn't mean anything unless the people who produced the CD actually own the rights to the music and artwork contained therein. Discogs lists this CD's origin as Argentina, 2010, and calls it "unofficial" (i.e. bootleg).

As for the re-recordings, I generally agree with what you said -- I much prefer the originals -- but you may be wrong when you say the composer's intentions have been ignored. Poledouris himself was notoriously unhappy with the original 1982/84 Conan recordings. But you know what? I don't care. The artist's taste doesn't always mirror mine. George Lucas was unhappy with the films he released in 1977, 1980, and 1983, but I always choose those originals over all the stupid re-edits, re-cuts, and remasters he has done since.

I've never heard of Elite Soundtracks before now. What other soundtracks have they releases? I could guess and say none.

How could this "Elite" produce a CTD release when Intrada have had the rights to this for almost 2 years now?

And Cimmerian Records is a KNOWN bootleg label too. As for ALL the legitimate releases of Conan The Destroyer check this page Conan The Destroyer- Soundtrack details - SoundtrackCollector.com (http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/7158/Conan+The+Destroyer).



How could it be bootleg sourced if it clearly mentions "2011 elite soundtracks copyright" ?
Do you mean they legalized a bootleg? they also clearly say they've remastered the entire score and extras.
On another thread I saw a version supposedly coming from "cimmerian records" (I checked on cimmerian records' site and no mention of copyright) which resembles this one by elite soundtracks.
If you managed to compare both, then I'm all ears.