Okay, we've done the BEST game to death (and opinions are still split on it), but now I'm interested - out of the MAIN series (1 through to 11), which game do you think is the WORST of the series?

If you ask me (which you don't, but I'm going to say it anways), the worst Final Fantasy is Final Fantasy V. To me, this game has no storyline, the characters have no personality, the battle system is crude and annoying, and I find myself fighting one battle and turning the console off in disgust.

So, give me your worst version, and reasons WHY it's the worst game, in your opinion. :)

Of course you have your own opinion, but looking at Final Fantasy V with what resources they had back then, they did a pretty good job (Completed :) ) which i think FF V is a good game..

WORST game ive played has to be FF X, sure the graphics are amazing, sure it has SOME good bits, but the storyline!? it dosnt change! A couple of people saving the world from a big scary dude....But nothing else, sure tidus finds out stuff about himself but too be honest, i couldn give a s**t...

My opinion, not urs defenders of FFX!

FFX. I seem to rant about it habitually, so... I'm sure you know the reasons why. If not, well.... it just wasn't a good game. :/

I still don't know if 11 should be considered the main series, but oh well.

I have to agree with X being the worst of the series, I think square simply tried to make the pretiest game possible and show that off in thier comercials and by the time somone bought the game and realized it wasn't very good it was too late! hahaha

And I hated the sphere grid, it seemed cool at first but their really wasn't any chance for customization of characters until the very end of the game.

I've never understood why some claim that FFX is or was the worst FF made? could someone elaborate? Personally speaking, IMHO think that FFMQ was quite possibly the worst.

Well MQ is probably the worst, but this thread asked which is the worst out of the main series, so that excludes MQ.

Aside from the reasons for not liking FFX that have already been said I simply didn't enjoy that game anywhere near as much as I enjoyed playing the rest of the series.

Yeah, we're only talking about the main series... otherwise MQ would be way too obvious a choice. :/

As for why I hate it.. uh, here' something I said at an earlier date, somewhere...


Originally posted by Duo
FFX was not great. I won't go into much detail... But the main reasons are... The fact that it felt more like a movie than a game... Thanks to the lack of world map and how restrictive it felt (to me), especially at the end. The battle system. Sphere Grid was okay, but I just thought the fact you could go above 9,999 was... a bit over the top, and.. uncalled for. It took the fun out of it, for me. The characters were reasonable, but nothing special. They wouldn't really urge me to play it compulsively.... For me, it was just... boring, and lacking in the areas that are truely important in an RPG.

Actually, the characters were rubbish.

i liked FFX but i would have to agree it was the same old story line and never really captured me like the others did. but, i still enjoyed it.

FFV. I didn't get the game o_o The characters were somewhat stupid and boring, I didn't have fun with the fights and it didn't have the charm.

Though I still think it's a good game, my least favourite has to be VI. How many characters do you need!?! There are far too many, thus meaning that some of the chaaracters storylines aren't explained enough. I don't really like Kefka either he's too much of a ponce for my liking. The whole main storyline, though was pretty decent enough, I think they could ahve added some more into it.

The battle system, with all the relics, well they could have given you say 2 more slots for the relics on each person.

Note: I never played FF2 and FF3.

So my vote goes to FF1, from today's point of view:
Stereotypical characters, heroes mere avatars, boring plot.

I don't understand why you dislike FFX, though. Maybe it's not 'your' kind of game, but it's still marvellous, with interesting well developed characters, atmosphere and a unique world.

wow. i figured there would be more 8 haters, since how it seems to be bashed the most.

i never played 2, 3, or 11 (and i never really want to), so my vote goes to v. i really hated the battle system, the story was crap, and the characters were also crap. Crap, crap, crap. It was just a big maelstrom of crap.

Of those I've played, 8 and X are a dead tie for the worst. Both for storyline reasons.

8: I mean, c'mon, monsters dripping onto earth from the moon? And where the hell did Ultimecia come from anyway? At least with all the other villians you have a backstory, but Ultimecia = BAM here's your villain, go after it!

X: Hideous voice acting, pathetic and cheesy cut-scenes that passed for character development reminiscent of the scene in FF8 where everyone conveniently grew up at the same orphanage and conveniently forgot about it because they use GF's or some B.S. like that. Though I did like that Tidus died at the end. Too bad Square didn't make it so that Yuna was actually his mother or something, then it'd have been a true Freudian comedy ("I hate you and am going to kill you, dad! Also, I'm screwing Yuna, so Nyeh!!~").

Oh, and if there is a return of Tidus at the end of FFX-2, that seals the deal concerning it sucking.

The worst character ever created with the exception of Cait Sith in 7.

Worst FF's gotta be FFV.. for all the reasons tat pple post :D

FINAL FANTASY VIII

What a terrible game, the story was so simplistic, it really felt rushed. What Odin said here above is absolutely right, It was just plain silly. And the fact that all the characters came from the same place and had the same background, WOW what a coincidence, or maybe it was because the developers didn�t bother writing seperate bacgrounds for them. There were like three towns in it and none of them was memorable, that Sci-Fi town was the most stupid thing i�ve ever seen in a game, like no one would notice it....The whole "draw" and "GF" system was terrible, it makes the characters colorless with no special abilities, this game is forgetable. Theres nothing in it that i will remember, the only thing thats well done in it is the Laguna story, but apart from that it�s just terrible.

FFX

couldnt get into it like the others, an entire game based around a religion which turns out to be a joke in the end anyway and an oversized whale as an enemy.

Not to mention that chocobo race mini-game that you had to get below 0 seconds for being the most BS and frustrating game ever created

Well I liked FFX.... So yeah~ If FFX was that terrible then FFX-2 should be even worse. The whole game was just about yuna go look for Tidus? And have Lenne and blah blah weird people came out? I don't understand why square soft made it, ot they actually planned when making FFX, but I just don't like it, the ending in FFX is better. Even the perfect ending in FFX2 didn't impress me a little.

For FF8, I think it's fine but the story line isn't that clear, there is still things that they didn't explain in the end, but that game is okay.

FF9 wasn't a very good game, I mean it's just normal, not like other FF series, I didn't put too much effort when playing it. It wasn't bad but not exciting.

And I agree with Odin that Cait Sith in FF7 was the worst character ever.

Quote from kawindle: FF9 wasn't a very good game, I mean it's just normal, not like other FF series, I didn't put too much effort when playing it. It wasn't bad but not exciting.

I dun mean ta be rude.. but FF9 was like a step away from all the sci-fi settin in FFVIII and the settin in FFVII.. to me goin back to the fantasy settin was great.. the storyline was also good

Buy hey its ur decision.. dis is juz my opinion

Cant say i was the biggest fan of that etc, good storey i suppose but monkeys and elephants and rats as characters was a bit too childish for me to get into :confused:

I suppose I should go into more detail about why FF5 is my choice.

Basically, I judge a good RPG by two points: A good, gripping storyline, and an easy yet subtly complex battle system which makes time seem to flow fast during battle.

All the other FFs I've played (apart from 1, maybe, which I haven't gotten into yet) have had at least a good storyline to keep my attention (or characters that I'm interested in) and a battle system that isn't boring and sends me to sleep.

I see people selecting 10, but this one stands up to me because (A) Auron's an interesting character and (B) You can switch party members during battle, which keeps things interesting.

FF5, the characters had no personality, and the battle system itself was slow and unresponsive. Sure, the job system was a good idea, but I just haven't got the patience to wait five minutes to fight one smegging random battle.

Anyways, I hope that's a little clearer (or more pointless, or something...)

FFVII. Terrible, clicheness. And the villain did NOTHING truly villain-worthy. Let the flaming commence.

8 was the worst for me. Crappy junction system. In terms of story, 5 and 8 were crap. 7 just rules over all.

Has any1 ever played THE ORIGINAL ff it was ff adventures THAT was crap it wasnt even ff it was more like secret of mana (but SOM ruled).That game sucked more than pamela anderson.

Oh and by the way WTF IS QUINA in ff9 i mean He/She serches the world for food and she attacks with a fork ffs square at least try.

The worst FF I've played, was FFX. Graphic wise, it was ok, but graphics don't make a game. Story, plot, characters, sound and even music help make a game.

Story - No offense to FFX lover's, but the story sucked like a vacuum machine. story based around... religion... who came up with that idea? the religion was rather stupid, and the story lame.

Plot - A guy, a girl and a fish. The guy is a little jerk, who's attitude is pathetic. I know Squall, Cloud and even Zidane are probably mortified with the lead role of X being Tidus. Even his weapons look as if they're making fun of him. The girl... reminded me of Aeris and Selphie combined into one. The fish... worst enemy ever.

Characters - Only one good character, Auron. The rest.... ugh.

Music - Nobuo Uematsu, and two others composed the OST, and I'm afraid this OST was bad... real bad.

Sound - Voice actors.... I HATE VOICE ACTORS IN GAMES!!!!

Other than those reasons, I just hate FFX. No other real reason why I shouldn't hate it either.

Without having dabbled in of the "alternate" FFs: FF2J.

Originally posted by Xiahou Dun

Sound - Voice actors.... I HATE VOICE ACTORS IN GAMES!!!!

Don't complain about the Voice actors, go play the Japanese version, the English version just sucked I totally agree.

And the music, I like Suteki da Ne, it's really good to me. =]

I liked most of the voice acting, but I'm an animation fan and some of the voices are people who also do voices in animation and so I'm like, oh, hey, "they're from that one show, that's cool" oh, and there's another! I didn't even really mind Tidus and Yuna that much either, which get most of the complaints. Especiaally Tidus narration.

i have to say FFVI not because of story or anythin but because of the battles. they are just so boring, i'll fight like two battles then turn it off, which really annoys me cos i want to go through the whole thing for the story! goddamn it, i wish i had a file that is at the start of the game but with every character at L99, cheating i know, but for this game i think i could make a rare exception

FFX and X2
FFX-The voice acting was junk, Tidus sounded like a little bitch. To tell the truth they should probably get rid of the voice acting all together. Actually no, Kingdom Hearts was pretty good.
FFX2- Even worse accept cornier, it was like the whole game was based around a pop song.
FF7 had depth dammit! X and X2 was just garbage.

Originally posted by Shadow_Lurker
Has any1 ever played THE ORIGINAL ff it was ff adventures THAT was crap it wasnt even ff it was more like secret of mana (but SOM ruled).That game sucked more than pamela anderson.

The Final Fantasy Adventure was actually releaesed in japan as Seiken Denestu - which over here, has recently been re-released on the GBA as Sword of Mana. It's the first in the Mana series, and was released AFTER the original Final Fantasy, called, funnily enough, Final Fantasy.

To all you FF7 haters (that's you, Nick :p): - You just don't like it because you all wanted your FF6 3D for the Nintendo 64.

To all you FF10 haters: - You just don't like it because you wanted your FF7 remake on the PlayStation 2.

And saying MQ is the worst FF is so cliche - people who have never even heard of the game just bash it.

I can't really say that i've got a worst FF - I like all the ones i've played to be honest. The one that has held my interest for the least amount of time is Final Fantasy IV - the story didn't exactly blow me away, and the battles can just get infuriating. Final Fantasy I is more fun to play.

The biggest disappointment was FF8 - after FF7, I was expecting something great, and unfortunately, I don't think anything could have met my expectations (Until FF10, four years later - it was the game FF8 should have been. Impossible, of course.). However, I won't say it's the worst FF, because FF8 is still a thoroughly enjoyable game, with an excellent story and, to top it off, Squall. He just rocks.

Originally posted by ExS

To all you FF10 haters: - You just don't like it because you wanted your FF7 remake on the PlayStation 2.

Sorry ExS, I have to disagree with you there. There are some games which you play, which you find you just don't enjoy. FFX was one of those games I just didn't enjoy. I've listed most of the reasons why I didn't like this game above and I'll stick with them. FFX, while in itself, is a good game, was one I found to be quite normal, nothing at all like the other FF's.

It did have it's moments, yes, but in my personal opinion, it was lacking a certain 'something' which the other FF's had.

And besides, I do not even want to think about a so called FF7 remake. To me, that would just be wrong, and the king of all bad ideas.

Of course, that's just my own personal opinion.

I've played FF7 - FF10 extensively. I have FF1,2,4,5 and 6 on the PSone, but have yet to begin playing them. Duuuhhh.

Anywho, IMO the worst of the ones I've played is 8. Its the only one which I haven't actually finished, because the storyline didn't grab my attention enough to *want* to finish it. With FF7 and FF9, played day and night so I could find out what happened, but with 8....nah. Once you find out they're all conveniatly from the same nursery etc, I just couldn't take it seriously anymore. Up to that point, the story had been keeping me playing, since I absolutely hated the draw system >.<, but after that, I stopped playing.

I've just finished FFX. I did enjoy it...I thought the battle system was perfect, althougth the sphere grid wasn't so hot. But I'll have to agree with the majority about the storyline. I've pushed myself to finish it simply so I can play X-2 with all the knowledge from X, although from what I've read, I don't really think I need it! *DOH*

So, my vote goes to 8.

FF7 remake? Hah! I find the idea almost as horrible as the reality that is FFX!

obviously ffI and mebbe even ffII sucked cause ff was an infant at the time..
but all the others were great up to X. up to ff V were all fun versions of the dark ages. ffVI expressed the industrial revolution more than anything. VII is in a world of it's own. VIII was like school. IX was long but still good. but X?! no real originality, should've been abridged as the exposition to ffX-2 and let it be one game (but no, they need profit profit profit). and ffXI (in case anyone missed my other entry) is a spoof on saga frontier and unlimited saga. 'nough said.

Well, I think the case against FFX is kinda flimsy. The voices, while you might not like them, they are good acting at all times. The graphics are good, the story line had a lot of parrarels to FF7 and the gameplay added some new innovations.

Additionally, 7 was a great game that would be an excellent remake. They could only make it better with improved graphics, more \ sidequests, better sound quality, and such.

Final Fantasy 8 would not take this award. The story was shallow at a first glance, but it is slightly more a character study than it is the epic. Especially if you believe in the Rinoa = Ultemecia theory, it makes it even comparable to 7. Additionally, the gameplay was too innovated and sophisticated. Too much ambition went into the game. Its an honorable failure to a person at best.

I hate to do this, but in all reality Final Fantasy IX was probably not up to par as the rest.

I loved this game no doubt. It has extremely human themes, goes back to fantasy, the 4 people party, and the characters had not only specific abilities and skills, but had the best overall characterization. Even gives us a few tempoary characters to use which is nice.

However, the epic doesn't grip us like it should. One keeps expecting something very interesting to happen, and it never really happens. The sidequests aren't not extremely variational and are largely dominated by mog mail and the chocobo treasurey. In addition, each character has so few skills and abilities, it feels like they could've doubled it.

In reality, this game did not have as high ambitions nor the result of the others.

I would say, runner up would be FFX-2. Highly variational gameplay, non-linear with lots of freedom, but the music, dialouge, direction, and overall atmosphere make you wonder "What the hell was Square thinking?"

FFX was ok but i still didn't much care for it.
FFX-2 was pointless. It was just an excuse to show 3 chicks in skimpy outfits. For some that was the only reason to buy it.:notgood:

Yeah, for you maybe.
I bought FFX-2 because I wanted to see the characters that I'd grown attached to. And if you believe there's nothing more in FFX-2 than sexy girls, YOUR MIND is to blame. The game has a few very interesting themes, and I'm not going to explain them again, I've done that often enough and if you're too blind to see them it's pointless anyway.

Feel free to dislike a game. But give proper reasons. FFX-2 is not shallow, but it reveals which of the players are shallow.

Okay. So, what, Square put all the girls in skimpy outfits cos why...? And when they do dress like that, it's a bit tacky and .. eh. I could care less with X, but if they had done that with a good game like VII... it would be dumb. :( AERIS IS BACK IN *TIGHT LEATHER*. I think.. if it did happen with a good game.. it would just mock anything it was ever about by turning it into FAN SERVICE GAME FOR HONRY KIDS. But I haven't played X-2 anyways, this is just how I'd feel if they'd sexed up something formerly heartfelt. And it's not a reflection on the players.

A RPG lives and dies based on its characters/plot. IXs plot sucked, yes, but the character and their interaction was brilliant. ;D IX really had some of the best characters, interaction, and set-pieces in any FF. It seems much better written than any other game in the series. The interplay of the four or five main characters.... I don't know, it was just such a fun game.

But X..? Sure, it had an okay plot, but what's the point when you don't feel a thing for the characters? Tidus was an anti-hero moron. And in theory, his being non-heroic could work really well, but it doesn't. He's like some extreme sports surfer asshole with the mentality of a 5 year old. Plus he's basically eye-candy, too. I couldn't take him seriously. Okay, Lulu, what to say? Tits, that's all there is to her. her reasn for joining the party? So she could do that little victory bit where she lets you look down her top. Yuna was the default FF heroine sort. Boring, but not as awful as the rest. That big animal guy. What the hell, he sucked. He never talked, he had one piece of plot in the whole game, he was bullied by some other animal guys or some rubbish. That's all. Rikku: spunky, cute as hell, boring. I liked Auron, though even at that, he wasn't exactly three-dimensional. If there was anyone else in the game, then clearly the weren't worth remembering. Couple that with the fact that you just meet up with your ready made party who want to help what's her face for some reason very near the start, and it robs the game of a lot of its sense of early progression/acquisition.

The plot was half-decent, I suppose. But nothing revolutionary. There was one good plot twist, which happened to the only good character in the whole game. Probably not a coincidence. Everything else was just the usual with a slight variation, nothing to set the world alight.

The Voice Acting. Ick. That just doesn't belong in an RPG. And mostly, if you're GOING to have VAs in a game, keep the Japanese intact for over here. God knows they can voice act, unlike the horrible cliched cartoony rubbish we get over here. I also thought they didn't stress their lines very well. No feeling (aside from, perhaps, a sense of idiotic over-enthusiasm from Tidus). They sucked.

The gameplay.. Hmm. NO WORLD MAP? The game felt devoid of even the illusion of having some sense of freedom. You were completely on rails the whole time. You just went from A to B with little deviation. Then you were completely restricted from looking around later, unless you wanted to go through the excruciatingly boring task of changing your Sphere Grid around to get 99 million fucking what the hell so you can kick some useless fuckers ass, just to get something else completely useless. It's not about thinking of neat ways to overcome them, it's just overhelming them. Plus it's BORING, unlike the extra super powerful boss battles in other FFs.... you only had 9,999. You had a sense that you really had to think to overcome them. But here you just need to become more powerful. Eh. That doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. Basically, you had to WORK (not have fun looking around new places, with one demi-exception) more for less.

X was generally bad. :( Decent by RPG standards, poor as FFs go.

EDIT : also, you don't know if a 7 remake would be any good. They could remake it and completely shatter our good memories of it, which is reason enough to leave it alone, in my book.

I think perhaps the characters have a bit more surface than your giving credit for.

Lulu is more than just a chick with boobs (which I didn't notice), she is a loner, serious to the bone, lacks much humor, and is always act tough on the outside along with being knowledgeable as she explains a few things to Tidus here and there.

To say there were no memorable characters...eik. Firstly Yuna is extremely memorable. Her strength, her lines, she is another recycled magic woman, but with more dignity and honor than the rest. Her history of being half Al-Bhed and half argh...I forget make her another interesting choice of her destiny.

Rikku...the Selphie inspiried character occasionally got on my nerves, but never boring...

Tidus is not eye candy...he is hideous... argh. >< I actually won't comment on him....I'll say I'm sick of feminine looking guys in videogames. Get rid of them. Wakka and Auron should be hailed for this.

Kimarhi is purposely silent...he has that code to him. If you ever read something by Hemingway, like "The short happy life of Francis Macbomber" you might understand the more masculine trait of not saying much but doing only what you need to do. He even has that highly muscular body and brotherhood with his people like a lot of the Ronsos. Auron is much like him in that respects and speaks only when it is important.

I think the cast chemsitry is great. They have their conflicts, their differences, their memories, and remain in our hearts after the credits.

The cast and voice acting doing them are completely fine. I think some lines are not meant to be stressed as once you do that, you get into the realm of over acting and doing things over the top which become incredibly noticeable....especially in games like DOA2 where the japanese actors come off as very over the top.

The reason for the over 9,999 HP (if you go out of your way to get it) is some monsters like the ones you breed have over 1 million HP...one I thought I heard had a billion, I might be mistaken. So its for keeping a mathematically sound ratio between some of the beasts and the characters.

The gameplay did have its spots though. You can update your weapons, armor, and accessories. Along with making some of the limits more based on what the player can do, swappign characters, and multiple system of overdrives. While failing in the adventure realm, the overall gameplay has more effort than other FFs.

The only major problem I have with FFX is the music...overly contempoary along with some of the character lines... ><

Also: Final Fantasy VII remade if DIRECTLY adapated and a few additions would rock. The PS2 could only improve everything that held the original back. Better graphics, higher sound quality, etc if they made a very direct translation.

Her history of being half Al-Bhed and half argh...I forget
Hmm. I think the default race for anyone in one of these games that isn't one of the others is just "human."

I knew I was probably over thinking that....

I was thinking more of saying "summoner" but that isn't neccessarily anything to do with blood line.

I'd love to see Square give a truly ambitious NON-ONLINE medieval setting like FFXI for PS2.

It seems they are going back to make sequels instead of games that are different. :/

My previous post was just my opinion so don't judge me.

I rented FFX-2 because a friend recomended it. I might have liked it better if you could play as more characters.

I didn't like FFX because, in my opinion, it didn't quite live up to my expectations. However I haven't beaten either of them yet so I guess I can't completely judge them.

Renting FFX-2 doesn't allow you to really experience it. Don't play to get Episode Complete and you'll get disappointing endings.

The gameplay in X is boring compared to most other FFs.

The characters were not memorable. Certainly, there wasn't much worth remembering. Sure, there was a little more to them, but it wasn't the least bit interesting. Cliched stuff.

Yuna is the typical FF female sort. Oh, sure, she struggles and all, but that's not particularly interesting, seeing as someone does that EVERY GAME. Kimarhi is a duller animal version of Auron. None of the characters really stood out for me, and all of their stories were pretty much the same old thing. I know that's true of most FFs, but it seemed particularly dull in this one. Probably just me or something, but the story really failed to take off in my eyes.

There is a difference between over acting and not acting. Anyways FF is supposed to be an RPG even if the voice acting was brilliant, I wouldn't particularly want it in a game, because it robs it of something. I don't know what, but it becomes more like an interactive movie. I detest the voice acting. :(

And its best to leave FF7 in the past.

I agree with you udo. As I've said before, X is a good game, but it is seriously lacking a certain something, the other FF's had. I am not a fan of voice acting, even in one of my fav games at the moment, Dynasty Warriors 4, I just detest voice acting in games. As udo himself has said time and time again, voice acting in games can make games feel more like an interactive movie, and I've played my fair share of them (for example Wing Commander 3 + 4 and the X-Files game.), and the whole game just felt... weird. I felt the same playing FFX, and even turning the volume off, and listening to other music, while better, did nothing to help me enjoy FFX.

And I've heard of all the so called 'rumours' of remakes of earlier FF's, how they'd be better utilising the technology which made FFX, IX and such. For that, I sincerly hope and pray to every deity, in all the celestial pantheons, that Square/Enix, does NOT, repeat NOT, decide to remake FFVII, VIII and XI. There's nothing wrong with the way they are now. Why go to all the trouble to fix something, if there's nothing wrong with it?

As it stands, the only game I'm hoping Square will rerelease, is the original FFIII.

I agree there is nothing technically wrong with the games as their time. However, many games are held back by limitations of the hardware. Vagrant Story for example, wanted to a heck of a lot more but couldn't do it...

However, knowing this, you'd want them to make the PS2 version...but I digress...if you knew FF7 was incomplete (which a couple of unconfirmed speculations from people on gamefaqs argue) you'd want to play it.

Again, if it was just a DIRECT adaptation, it couldn't possiblly hurt it. Its not neccessarily fixing, maybe finishing what wasn't done, but at the worst, it would only be polishing up music, sound, and graphics and there is no harm in that.

Though the real underlying fear against voice acting is founded, I don't think the case souly on voice acting is. All throughout time, you were given text on a screen with no emotion or feeling in them. Now you finally hear the way it was intended to sound. However, I realize more than anything, people fear a cinematic intensified journey along lines of "Metal Gear Solid" and "Xenosaga" to a point of not balancing the gameplay and atmospher. However, that is a fault of the direction of the game, and not that of voice acting. Especially if you ever play Xenosaga. Its pretensious with its 30 minute cutscenes, but its fun as heck to hear people scream in battle lines like "TAKE THIS - LIGHTNING BLAST!!!"

The gameplay in FFX, I don't think was boring at all. The game was quicker based thanks to the turn based system and the quick character swapping and armor/change keeps your options open if you feel like changing anything. Preventing you from just simply restarting a battle if you didn't like the party before hand or the equipment. Its a lot more kinder in that respect and has more innovation, but not to the point of FF8. It was also interesting to have a more asian styled game than the medieval/techno european style.

The same with the characters, I will certainly always remember Yuna struggling that she was half Al-Bhed and putting up with Wakka's religious whining and realizing she was part of a false religion. Wakka and Rikku having differences the whole way but still being their laid back selves. I don't consider this game cliche at all as if they really wanted to be cliche, Tidus could've been Chappuand a few other contrivitys (is that a word, if not, I mad it one.) The characters are bit a more grounded in their own codes. Whether Wakka and Rikku have different beliefs but are laid back, Auron and Kihamri living by a certain code whether by custom of their race or by "code of a weapon" as many warriors have a code.

The two main problems with FFX:

#1

I think FFX's problem was the fact that you had too many lines that are a direct influence from our world like Rikku and Tidus's lines mostly such as "leave and let live" or "I won't go so easy on you next time..." they are cheapening and create disjointedness and the same thing with the music. That and the expectation of such ground breakingness...when you can only break so much ground. Leading me to my next point...

#2

And yes, the game is clearly recycled of other games, however, this was true for all of them. The lead female magic user, the man who usually has a sword or blade, and so on. However, FFX takes their roles a bit more on the epic and inner personal levels as stated earlier. I'd be lying if I said any FF didn't have elements of recycling to them.

So with those two main components, a game that used the same recycled characters (having the most obvious parallelism to FF7) and with such great expectations was bound to get less credit, and I dont' neccessarily blame people for the "something was missing...just not sure what, just me?" idea I have a bit popping up a bit here.

You judge the game on its own terms and ambitions, it does fine.

However, as I've posted before, 9 simply doesn't hold the gravity it should, nor does it have any of the ambitions or take any of the dares the others do.

It is probably my favorite cast of characters. Easily the best character development and interaction and the hero even had the balls to forgive the villian in the end. People have their background and code strongly united and also struggle on epic and personal levels. It was a game with a lot of humane themes. But aside from that, the epic portion of the story fails to provide any spectacle realms or ideas to "aww" at.

The gameplay faulters on relying on too few things. While each character is finally unique in battle, they don't have many commands. There was a heck of a lot more magic, summons (maybe on intentionally though),and commands in any previous ones. The trances are not exactly a strong point, but not an entire weak point either.

For the world given, it feels small. The adventure feels great, but always ends too short. Majority of the sidequests are either the moogle mail or the chocobo stuff and have low variety.

It had good cards, but it didn't completely play them up all the way. It simply doesn't have the depth, the effort, the ambition, or aristicness.

OH HECK...BUT IN ANY EVENT

I don't really expect anyone to change their mind. Maybe give different insight. Sometimes, argh...I don't know. A lot of times I think you don't neccessarily see things on books/games/movies right away and maybe FFX is an easy target because its the latest and the least time to sink in and play again.

ANYWAYS

Everyone gets a free chocolate pie from me for having to read through this!!! :) :) :) :)