Anaximander
05-26-2012, 12:34 PM
This is the 1995 expanded version from DCC records. Although it's not the most complete edition, it has the full length version of Desert Chase, which was edited down to the original LP length for the 2008 indy soundtrack boxset. A personal rip from my collection, btw.
MP3 @ 320 kbps; approx. 160 mb
tracklist:
1. The Raiders March (2:52)
2. Main Title: South America, 1936 (4:10)
3. In The Idol's Temple (5:26)
4. Flight From Peru (2:20)
5. Journey To Nepal (2:12)
6. The Medallion (2:54)
7. To Cairo (1:30)
8. The Basket Game (5:04)
9. The Map Room: Dawn (3:53)
10. Reunion And The Dig Begins (4:12)
11. The Well Of The Souls (5:29)
12. Airplane Fight (4:37)
13. Desert Chase (8:18)
14. Marion's Theme (2:08)
15. The German Sub/To The Nazi Hideout (4:32)
16. Ark Trek (1:33)
17. The Miracle Of The Ark (6:05)
18. The Warehouse (0:56)
19. End Credits (5:21)
http://www.mediafire.com/?5b2sqqnd89wqa85
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koala123
05-26-2012, 12:59 PM
Thank you for this one. IT's good to hear the extended "dersert chase".
dspani
05-26-2012, 04:36 PM
Nice One...Thanks for sharing!!!
Williamtaylor1969
05-26-2012, 05:03 PM
Wait, this isn't the THREE disc set? With the extended alt take, the expanded alt take, and the great big LONG alternate take of the Desert chase music?
Oh, darn.
William
jedisaurus
05-26-2012, 05:51 PM
Do I sense some sarcasm, Sir William? :)
Anaximander
05-26-2012, 05:59 PM
barring unofficial bootlegs, this is the 2nd best version available ;)
phbart
05-26-2012, 08:44 PM
This, together with the 1993 Star Wars Anthology, actually taught us how an expanded release should be, since the specialty labels weren't as prominent as they are now, or maybe didn't even exist. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is only the second John Williams expanded soundtrack.
It's incomplete (even the 2LP is), but at the time it didn't feel like it. I believe most of us here already have it in lossless with scans and everything, but it's a nice share anyway.
I don't think this the 2nd best version... this IS the best version. The 2008 and the original 1981 are just to complete what's missing...
Sirusjr
05-26-2012, 08:47 PM
If you are going to be re-ripping your collection you should use VBR V-0 :) It creates smaller files when dealing with music that has dynamic range like this release. Thanks for sharing this music though, a classic for indeed.
Dr.Zachary
05-26-2012, 11:46 PM
Thanks for sharing this!
koala123
05-27-2012, 12:46 PM
Shadoko
05-27-2012, 12:58 PM
The 5-CD collection in FLAC is downloadable here:
John Williams - Indiana Jones The Soundtracks Collection (2008) 5CDs � lossless.cd (
http://lossless.cd/337-john-williams-indiana-jones-the-soundtracks-collection-2008.html)
Anaximander
05-28-2012, 04:41 PM
This, together with the 1993 Star Wars Anthology, actually taught us how an expanded release should be, since the specialty labels weren't as prominent as they are now, or maybe didn't even exist. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is only the second John Williams expanded soundtrack.
It's incomplete (even the 2LP is), but at the time it didn't feel like it. I believe most of us here already have it in lossless with scans and everything, but it's a nice share anyway.
I don't think this the 2nd best version... this IS the best version. The 2008 and the original 1981 are just to complete what's missing...
if the 2008 had kept the full length "desert chase" and included the other 4-5 minutes or so of missing score, than it would certainly be the best.
i find the 2008 collection unforgivable. it should've been handled by intrada or fsm...mr. kendall would've made sure we got complete scores of the original 3 films.
i was so disappointed that they still haven't released the complete end credits music from temple
---------- Post added at 11:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:40 AM ----------
If you are going to be re-ripping your collection you should use VBR V-0 :) It creates smaller files when dealing with music that has dynamic range like this release. Thanks for sharing this music though, a classic for indeed.
noted.
i just assumed 320 mp3 would be the second most desirable format, after FLAC of course
Sirusjr
05-28-2012, 04:49 PM
Yeah, a number of users seem to demand 320 but they don't know why v0 is better. This guy explains it best
MP3 Debate: 320CBR vs V0 (
http://www.head-fi.org/t/539748/mp3-debate-320cbr-vs-v0)
Anaximander
05-28-2012, 04:58 PM
so basically the main benefit is smaller files (where allowable) without sacrificing the quality of 320?
Sirusjr
05-28-2012, 05:22 PM
so basically the main benefit is smaller files (where allowable) without sacrificing the quality of 320?
Yeah, when the music has dynamic range (like this album does, and any 90s horner score) you end up with drastically smaller files and still good bitrate. If you compared V0 to 320 for a heavy metal album you wouldn't notice much of a change in size.
N-12_Aden
05-28-2012, 07:42 PM
Thanks for the upload.
---------- Post added at 01:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:32 PM ----------
Aw shit almost forgot.
WHERE DA FLAC @?
Anaximander
05-28-2012, 08:08 PM
;)
jmn77
05-28-2012, 08:58 PM
mr. kendall would've made sure we got complete scores of the original 3 films.
I'm not so certain... John Williams has stated more than once that he has little desire to see any of his scores released in a complete and chronological fashion. The 2cd Original Stars Wars Trilogy sets come the closest. The 2008 Raiders release is also close. But look at this years 2cd release of Hook. Again, very close, but no cigar and that was put out by LaLaLand! The reason it still wasn't complete (nor chronological) was because that's not how the Maestro wanted it.
The only time he relented was on the 2cd Phantom Menace "Ultimate Edition" release. He agreed to let the entire "film version" of the score be put out... and he hasn't stopped regretting it since. Hence no similar releases for AOTC and ROTS.
In other words, it's not always up to the label. If Mr. Williams doesn't want it to happen, it won't... unfortunately :(
Anaximander
05-29-2012, 12:20 AM
well, the bootleg versions floating around pretty much give us the stuff not commercially available when it comes to indy music, so it's not the end of the world
phbart
05-29-2012, 12:48 AM
I'm not so certain... John Williams has stated more than once that he has little desire to see any of his scores released in a complete and chronological fashion. The 2cd Original Stars Wars Trilogy sets come the closest. The 2008 Raiders release is also close. But look at this years 2cd release of Hook. Again, very close, but no cigar and that was put out by LaLaLand! The reason it still wasn't complete (nor chronological) was because that's not how the Maestro wanted it.
The only time he relented was on the 2cd Phantom Menace "Ultimate Edition" release. He agreed to let the entire "film version" of the score be put out... and he hasn't stopped regretting it since. Hence no similar releases for AOTC and ROTS.
In other words, it's not always up to the label. If Mr. Williams doesn't want it to happen, it won't... unfortunately :(
I don't blame him at all! If one takes the "Ultimate Edition" of Phantom Menace as a basis for what a "complete" release should be, I'd change my mind immediately about letting that sort of thing happen again...
Also, Mr. Kendall said in the FSM forum once that big franchises like this are very unlikely to be handled by the specialty labels. In the case of Star Wars and Indiana Jones, Lucasfilm owns the rights and they go to the highest bidder. And also, when it comes to John Williams music, they usually rely on his staff to do all the work (transfers, remix, editing, sequencing and so on) and these people are not charging cheap for their services...
N-12_Aden
05-29-2012, 06:05 AM
Here's another good cover. I always use it for Raiders, regardless of the version.
Rikkun
06-15-2012, 07:43 AM
thanks
hugenstein
06-15-2012, 07:55 AM
love it, thank you!
xphile7777
06-30-2012, 01:15 AM
Thanks! :)
dean1700
06-30-2012, 02:34 AM
Nice. Remove the title "Indiana Jones" and it's perfect.
Here's another good cover. I always use it for Raiders, regardless of the version.
Jediknight12
06-30-2012, 07:48 PM
I prefered this version above any other Raiders CD out there
Anaximander
06-30-2012, 07:53 PM
I'm not so certain... John Williams has stated more than once that he has little desire to see any of his scores released in a complete and chronological fashion. The 2cd Original Stars Wars Trilogy sets come the closest. The 2008 Raiders release is also close. But look at this years 2cd release of Hook. Again, very close, but no cigar and that was put out by LaLaLand! The reason it still wasn't complete (nor chronological) was because that's not how the Maestro wanted it.
The only time he relented was on the 2cd Phantom Menace "Ultimate Edition" release. He agreed to let the entire "film version" of the score be put out... and he hasn't stopped regretting it since. Hence no similar releases for AOTC and ROTS.
In other words, it's not always up to the label. If Mr. Williams doesn't want it to happen, it won't... unfortunately :(
what i really meant to say was that i think, regardless of how complete it were, kendall or one of the specialty labels may have presented it better. the edits in the box set are poorly done on many of the tracks. tracks abruptly end, rather than flowing into one another in a fluid manner. i find the concord version almost unlistenable and prefer the older indy soundtracks and fan edits that have edited the concord tracks together. if it was williams' idea to have the tracks edited and arranged the way they are, then shame on him, because he's making it less enjoyable for many fans to listen to his music, regardless of what his vision might be
Anaximander
07-08-2012, 10:56 PM
you're welcome, everyone :)
EasterHay
07-13-2012, 03:53 PM
I'm not so certain... John Williams has stated more than once that he has little desire to see any of his scores released in a complete and chronological fashion. The 2cd Original Stars Wars Trilogy sets come the closest. The 2008 Raiders release is also close. But look at this years 2cd release of Hook. Again, very close, but no cigar and that was put out by LaLaLand! The reason it still wasn't complete (nor chronological) was because that's not how the Maestro wanted it.
The only time he relented was on the 2cd Phantom Menace "Ultimate Edition" release. He agreed to let the entire "film version" of the score be put out... and he hasn't stopped regretting it since. Hence no similar releases for AOTC and ROTS.
In other words, it's not always up to the label. If Mr. Williams doesn't want it to happen, it won't... unfortunately :(
And yet Williams couldn't prevent from Ben Burtt and George Lucas from butchering his score for The Phantom Menace and Attack Of The Clones (in the case of the latter, they ditched music Williams had written for the arena battle and instead tracked existing cues from The Phantom Menace. Bewildering.). I thought the release of The Ultimate Phantom Menace was Sony's decision and nothing to do with Williams at all? And that the reason we've not had "ultimate editions" of AOTC and ROTS was that The Phantom Menace ultimate score was so highly criticised.
GoshShesHot
07-13-2012, 04:35 PM
I always liked the original LP, I grew up listening to it. The first time I heard this CD I was initially disappointed because compared to the warm sound of the LP it sounded awfully harsh and tinny (esp on the brass) in comparision. I've been meaning to find an LP rip for ages. (My record player and LP is a long long way from here, I only have a tape copy to hand)
BTW I thought the Desert Chase on the LP that was released at the same time as this CD was longer still? *looks on Wikipedia* Ah I think im thinking of Well Of The Souls Raiders of the Lost Ark (soundtrack) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark_(soundtrack))
Williamtaylor1969
07-13-2012, 04:56 PM
Do I sense some sarcasm, Sir William? :)
No, I'm not trying to be sarcasic or anything, Jedisaurus. "Supertracks" had come out with a very nice, 2 CD set of Raiders that was JAMMED to the edges with very rare tracks and stuff like that, and I had heard about an extended 3 CD set that had come out, very clean tracks and alot of unreleased stuff. I was just hoping beyond hope that someone would/could post it somewhere here!
I currently have the 21 track, the 22 track, which are both about the same, and a 33 track version. I don't have the 2 CD from Supertracks (Those were discs that have disappeared from my collection) or have I even seen the 3 CD version.
William
Anaximander
07-13-2012, 06:15 PM
i'd love to see any of those versions pop up
JSN111
07-14-2012, 04:23 PM
I cant unzip this file ):
Anaximander
07-14-2012, 04:24 PM
really? no one else reported any issues.. did you type the password?
JSN111
07-14-2012, 04:38 PM
I didnt even get a chance to, it just says unable to unrar file.
JSN111
07-14-2012, 06:35 PM
Never mind dont worry about it, i "got" the soundtracks collection.
Compos_JSJ
07-14-2012, 11:22 PM
And yet Williams couldn't prevent from Ben Burtt and George Lucas from butchering his score for The Phantom Menace and Attack Of The Clones (in the case of the latter, they ditched music Williams had written for the arena battle and instead tracked existing cues from The Phantom Menace. Bewildering.). I thought the release of The Ultimate Phantom Menace was Sony's decision and nothing to do with Williams at all? And that the reason we've not had "ultimate editions" of AOTC and ROTS was that The Phantom Menace ultimate score was so highly criticised.
He didn't compose music for the arena battle. Only for the monsters sequence.
6M1 Love Pledge
6M2 Entrance of the Monsters
6M2 Sweetener
Which is available in OST track 12 (Love Pledge and the Arena).
The rest is indeed tracked from TPM, mainly from the Naboo battle. Most of these cues weren't even used in TPM. The whole Battle of Naboo sequence was re-edited, and Williams' music didn't fit the cut anymore.
jacksparrow900
07-14-2012, 11:29 PM
No, I'm not trying to be sarcasic or anything, Jedisaurus. "Supertracks" had come out with a very nice, 2 CD set of Raiders that was JAMMED to the edges with very rare tracks and stuff like that, and I had heard about an extended 3 CD set that had come out, very clean tracks and alot of unreleased stuff. I was just hoping beyond hope that someone would/could post it somewhere here!
I currently have the 21 track, the 22 track, which are both about the same, and a 33 track version. I don't have the 2 CD from Supertracks (Those were discs that have disappeared from my collection) or have I even seen the 3 CD version.
William
do you have any more information on this
Petros
11-22-2012, 12:31 PM
Many thanks!
zoeeloise
11-22-2012, 02:48 PM
Thank you!
Cable23
04-28-2013, 01:23 AM
Many thanks!
Stinkor
04-30-2013, 06:49 AM
So I'm trying to reassemble an original soundtrack album for this...does anyone know what the first track, simply titled "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and clocking at 6:04 is?
dean1700
04-30-2013, 11:35 AM
It could be either one of the concert suite marches or could be a retitled "Miracle of The Ark" track where the Indy holds the bazooka to the ark before transitioning into the scene where the ark is then opened unleashing the wrath of God. If it is the latter you should not hear the familiar Raiders theme.
Stinkor
04-30-2013, 05:01 PM
It could be either one of the concert suite marches or could be a retitled "Miracle of The Ark" track where the Indy holds the bazooka to the ark before transitioning into the scene where the ark is then opened unleashing the wrath of God. If it is the latter you should not hear the familiar Raiders theme.
Neither of the marches comes close to 6 minutes in length though, so even if it includes one, what else is after it? How do I "recreate" it, in other words? Anyone have the LP or know? It's not on youtube that I can find.
Edit: Actually, I suspect it's probably the end credits suite, which clocks in on the DCC release at 5:21. Not sure what the extra 45 seconds are, but most of the track times don't line up. The total "reconstructed" album I made is 40 minutes and change, instead of the 43 minutes listed on album sites for the Polydor release.
dean1700
05-01-2013, 10:02 AM
Are you able to upload it anywhere or send it to me? I'd like to try and identify it as well.
Neither of the marches comes close to 6 minutes in length though, so even if it includes one, what else is after it? How do I "recreate" it, in other words? Anyone have the LP or know? It's not on youtube that I can find.
Edit: Actually, I suspect it's probably the end credits suite, which clocks in on the DCC release at 5:21. Not sure what the extra 45 seconds are, but most of the track times don't line up. The total "reconstructed" album I made is 40 minutes and change, instead of the 43 minutes listed on album sites for the Polydor release.
Stinkor
05-01-2013, 04:03 PM
Are you able to upload it anywhere or send it to me? I'd like to try and identify it as well.
No--I don't have the OST recording, so I was trying to recreate it based on the track titles. I have no idea what's in it other than a vague recollection that it a) had the raiders march in it and b) that track listing time of 6:04.
dean1700
05-01-2013, 10:48 PM
I've just listened to the track you're referring to and it's sometimes referred to as the Indiana Jones Theme and it sounds very much like the end title music only slightly longer. I don't think you would be able to recreate it because it has a different version of Marion's Theme in it as well.
Stinkor
05-01-2013, 11:09 PM
Yeah, I think there's probably lots of small bits and bobs here and there which I'm missing. So it will be an approximation then rather than an actual recreation. I'm OK with that. Thanks!
dean1700
05-01-2013, 11:55 PM
I've just looked at the track Raiders of The Lost Ark and the next closest track available (being Washington Ending and Raiders March (End Titles)) in Audacity and, disregarding the Washington Ending cue, the two tracks ARE the same. There is no extension of any part of the ROTLA track at all so the length may be due to the bit rate or compression which makes one track shorter than the other but it definitely seems like something done in post production. I don't know much about the recording process so this is not definitive but the two are essentially the same.
Stinkor
05-02-2013, 12:34 AM
I've just looked at the track Raiders of The Lost Ark and the next closest track available (being Washington Ending and Raiders March (End Titles)) in Audacity and, disregarding the Washington Ending cue, the two tracks ARE the same. There is no extension of any part of the ROTLA track at all so the length may be due to the bit rate or compression which makes one track shorter than the other but it definitely seems like something done in post production. I don't know much about the recording process so this is not definitive but the two are essentially the same.
I have the DCC 1995 disc (as well as the 5-disc collection set), which has just "End Credits" that omits the "Washington Ending," so I guess that'll be the same thing? That's what I've used anyway.
I know some of the other track times don't line up with the digital versions, but it's possibly a remastering thing.
Thanks for checking it out so closely. I hadn't thought of looking at it in Audacity, that's very clever.
dean1700
05-02-2013, 12:44 AM
Yeah, I've got that too and realised that AFTER the fact. D'oh. But yeah it is the same thing.
I have the DCC 1995 disc (as well as the 5-disc collection set), which has just "End Credits" that omits the "Washington Ending,".
ajajaj
08-25-2013, 03:31 PM
Thanks Lyedecker!
Jediknight12
08-25-2013, 07:27 PM
Here is the Original Album of Raiders of the Lost Ark the polydor edition if anyone is interested
DepositFiles (
http://depositfiles.com/files/ibkumo4ih)
Kaolin
05-17-2015, 04:18 PM
Thanks.
lalogrusinfoxfan65
05-17-2015, 04:47 PM
Thank You!
mad_martigan
05-18-2015, 12:31 AM
Thanks Lyedecker!
Thank you very much for this. ^^
dean1700
06-15-2015, 10:58 AM
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reppa35
10-18-2015, 03:08 AM
Thank you.
Cable23
10-28-2017, 07:55 PM
Many thanks!
herculepoirot
10-29-2017, 01:46 AM
Thanks. The movie that made me love movie soundtracks.
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