MogKnight
10-01-2003, 09:59 PM
A quote from Yun of Street Fighter 3: Third Strike.

In the gaming competition world, gamers will always complain about a particular gaming style of being cheap. Many people have many opinions about it and there are many ways to be called cheap.

Lets not confuse this for cheating as cheating usually consist of using a game's huge glitch to your advantage but not exactly a minor glitch (example: Glitch that causes you to not get hurt with any type of attack is cheating, a glitch that causes you to do an attack faster than it would without the glitch isn't.)

Every time I head to the arcades, I always hear someone that I beat say behind me (to his friends) "Man, that guy is cheap! He friggen did a long ass combo on me!" I didn't exactly used a glitch or anything, it was basically me rushing at the guy and not hold back at all. In my opinion, calling someone playing cheap is a way for the people who can't accept losing feel better.

"Hey! That guy kept doing this and that, thats cheap!"

or "Hey! That guy is pretty fucking good, I won't accept this! It's cheap methods of winning!"

I mean there is a way around each method. To really say that it's cheap, you would have to go through every situation and then finally you can call it cheating. Example, a character has an infinite combo and it's EXTREMELY easy to do and it's VERY easy to setup even for a beginner. Thats cheap. But another character also has an infinite, it's hard to do and setting it up is a total bitch. Another situation, a guy is in a spot in a map that you could just walk into and never get hurt even if directly shot, thats cheap. To camp and wait for the enemy in a hiding place, thats not cheap.

I played this one guy in the arcade, always does the same tactics every time, most would consider it cheap. Since the game was on freeplay (:D), I stayed and kept fighting the guy, went over his cheap tactics and he walked away saying "I" was cheap. :D

Another thing is that when a little kid or someone who has never played or was into it, I never hold back. Sure, I don't play as fierce, I mostly use these chances to practice combos. If I want to hold back, I would only really do it to someone who wants to join the game and learn it, like I can feel it in how he plays.

What do you consider as what is cheap, what is unfair, etc etc in gaming? Do you accept the way things are and get better at it or do you, like many others that I've played, say that good gamers just play cheap... or do you just say "It's just a game" and be sorted into "that guy plays cheap" catagory? Technically it's the same.

Koenma
10-01-2003, 10:13 PM
The ol' "I'll put him int he corner and bash him 'til he dies!!" method.

I can't fucking stand it.

Even some of our fighting-game players down here do it, despite that they're actually good and could kill if they tried...but no, they insist on "I'll do a good move here, throw in a sweep or to here and hit him straight into the corner and not let him go!"

Then of course, there's the ol' "I'm so good at this game, I'll take on anyone!"

*Guy comes up and puts in a quarter and plays*

Guy who was previously gloating: I R SO FUCKING GOOD ~ *Button mash*

Maybe not necessarily cheap, but both methods are constantly done to me whenever I play arcade fighting games..

..Sad thing is, I can't stop either from happening (can't escape getting trapped in a corner, can't beat people through their mashing =\ )

Bahamut ZERO
10-01-2003, 10:57 PM
I give you cheap.

Me as Raphael in Soul Calibur 2. Team battle mode. I chose four characters to a friend's eight. The other three characters I chose are irrelevant for this tale.

Raphael is one of the quicker, more versatile fighters in the game. He also has one of the greater combos in the game, that you can learn quickly and that is "cheap" to a fault. Walk forwards and press triangle quickly three times. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. If your enemy is slow, or not experienced, he's dead. If he's smart, get him near the edge of the ring and then stabby throw him out or just get him in the air and smack him out.

I won eight battles with Raphael. True, my mate was a complete novice at the game, but he wasn't too happy, especially as my "health recovered after each match in huge chunks."

:) Still, it was fun. My sister was the expert at "hitting all the buttons" in Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the SNES. Ryu has never done so many fireballs and Dragon Punches in his life.