fireball
08-19-2003, 06:58 AM
I don't know about you, but i think trance isnt that great...

you always lose it after the battle...every time i had trance, another character finishes the battle before the tranced character can do something...

of course it can do some major damage...but it requires timing for bosses...

so is it that important?

Agent0042
08-19-2003, 07:29 AM
While I didn't really like Trance and didn't think it was nearly as cool as limits, or FFX's overdrives, I wouldn't say I found it useless. It was pretty nice when you got it and could be quite helpful, particularly some of Zidane's trances or Steiners' which increased his attacks. Actually, they were all pretty useful when you got them, except for maybe Quina's. Quina's was just stupid. It just helped make learning Blue Magic a little easier, but I never needed it anyway and unless you needed a particular Blue Magic it didn't help any, except of course that it raised normal attack a bit, like all the trances do.

Vivi FF
08-19-2003, 05:32 PM
Trance itself is not useless. You can do some serious damage in Trance without using too much MP (at times). However, I do hate that you can't save it or when you get it, you have all of your other characters attacking so the Tranced character doesn't get a shot... I found Trance useful at times (*cough*Ozma*cough*) but Square could have put mroe work into it to make them cooler.

kurohime
08-19-2003, 08:37 PM
The bad thing about trance: If you don't use it when a character is tranced, unlike overdrives and limit breaks, it doesn't carry over into the next battle.

The GOOD thing about trance: You can used it more than once in battle.

And Dynes rock. ;)

Draven
08-19-2003, 11:00 PM
Dynes do rock yes but i agree with fireball20, its silly that you have to wait to use the move and sometimes in battle dont get 2 use it

Autumn
08-20-2003, 08:12 AM
Overall, like everyone has basically already said trance is good when you can use it but otherwise it's just annoying. Enough said~

Bahamut ZERO
08-20-2003, 10:54 AM
Me: Oooh, Zidane's just entered Trance in this boss battle! Ace!
Boss explodes via an unrelated attack from Vivi.
Me: ...

That's what I hate about Trance. It isn't useless, but it has a rather alarming tendency to be made redundant by the end of a battle.

Meltigemini
08-24-2003, 07:04 PM
<font color=red face="comic sans ms">Trance is easily my least favourite limit system from FF. One thing that annoyed me about it right from the start was the amount of time it takes to animate in and out of it, while in the other games it just told you that you had a limit break. Even if you win a battle, if your Trance runs out with that final move, the battle won't actually end until you've come out of the Trance, and that got so annoying.

I also didn't like that the Trance bar went down even if you did other things rather than use it up (and I often did, like when I got a Trance against a boss but wanted to steal everything before killing it). Although you can use it more than once which is obviously good.

As for the moves themselves, some were much more useful than others. I probably found Amarants the most useful, because Chakra-All and especially Aura-All can make you virtually invincible (everyone has Regen and Auto-Life). Zidane's are good for damage, and Steiner's just makes him mega-powerful which is obviously great too. I don't really like Freya's at all because the power of the attacks are decreased so much. Everyone else's are ok but nothing TOO special really.

Kie
08-24-2003, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Bahamut ZERO
Me: Oooh, Zidane's just entered Trance in this boss battle! Ace!
Boss explodes via an unrelated attack from Vivi.
Me: ...


That's happened an unbelievable amount of times with me XD, once when Quina did a pathetic 52 HP damage on the Earth Guardian just as Zidane was about to attack with Grand Lethal. It's good though that if you faint while in trance, and get revived, you can still use trance.

KREAYSHAWN
08-29-2003, 02:14 PM
What's wrong with Trance? Limits are supposed to be occasional assistance. OCCASIONAL. Don't complain that you can't get it all the time ^_~ That's the point. As far as I can see, it's just another limit system... *shrugs*

Meltigemini
08-30-2003, 05:28 PM
<font color=red face="comic sans ms">Yeah, it was alright in that sense, FF8's limit system in particular could make the game far too easy. The point with Trance is, unlike in other games when you can use your limits any time you want after you get them, with Trance you MUST use them straight away or the ability gets wasted, and I just didn't really like it like that.

Mullet Man
08-31-2003, 08:46 PM
Trance is alright when u get it, but it would hardly come around when i was against bosses!

Tokiko
09-06-2003, 09:35 AM
The way that Trance was explained, it just couldn't be kept for a later battle.
It was new powers drawn from desperation, anger etc. Based on emotions rather than anything else, it can't be kept for later battles... this would not have made sense.

AdemA
11-19-2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Misao
The way that Trance was explained, it just couldn't be kept for a later battle.
It was new powers drawn from desperation, anger etc. Based on emotions rather than anything else, it can't be kept for later battles... this would not have made sense.

Exactly, which is why a few characters get trances at the start of some particular battles (won't spoil it ~_^)....

Anyway, you guys say that once you get tranced, then another character finishes off the boss before the tranced character gets a turn??? Well, if you can win a battle without using a tranced character, then the boss-battles easy enough, trance would just make it overkill O_o... So really, it's not Trance that is flawed, but the difficulty of the game...

Agent0042
11-19-2003, 08:41 PM
...is flawed? I don't know about that. At times, I actually found FFIX to be more difficult than either FVIII or IX. But maybe that was just me personally.

AdemA
11-20-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Agent0042
...is flawed? I don't know about that. At times, I actually found FFIX to be more difficult than either FVIII or IX. But maybe that was just me personally.

As for 8, the enemies level with you, so as long as you draw magic the game is easy... and by posting IX to compare with IX, I assume you mean X... And I agree again there. I'm not saying that the game was to easy as a fact, but rather to easy for the people who were playing it.
If the people saying Trance came in at the end of a boss battle, declaring it useless, had been at a lower level, then they sure as hell wouldn't be complaining about the uselessness of the Trance itself, because it would have actually saved their asses ~_^

Acira
11-25-2003, 04:58 PM
the best time to have trance would be during a boss battle. Any other time is just a waste of time IMO. Always raise up your trance to it's peak and then go into a boss battle. you will like the results. Just keep your character in good shape and the battle is yours for the winning.

Loki
11-25-2003, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Acira
the best time to have trance would be during a boss battle. Any other time is just a waste of time IMO. Always raise up your trance to it's peak and then go into a boss battle. you will like the results. Just keep your character in good shape and the battle is yours for the winning.

*just has to take this time to bow to captain obvious*....

well said....

Reeni
12-02-2003, 06:20 PM
It annoys me how you have to watch them go in and out of the trance and if you've already entered a command when they go into the trance it still goes down, so you waste some of your trance time for something crappy like using a potion.

AdemA
12-03-2003, 12:18 PM
True... and what's really annoying is when the enemy dies of poison before you trance... so the battle ends, and suddenly you have to wait for your character to go into trance before the spoils screen appears...

But still, you can't say that it is useless... It is especially useful when trying to fight the Garudas and Dragons on Bentini Heights... As normally Disc 3/4 enemies will normally rape a team still on Disc 1, but the trance can often save you... Not to mention you rack up the EXP for fighting such enemies ^_^ (lvl. 30 on disc 1, lol...)

Agent0042
12-03-2003, 04:49 PM
If you're referring to Grand Dragons, there's a much easier to toast those than messing around with Trance: LV5 Death.

Tekno
12-29-2003, 11:07 AM
I like trance so far, but as so many already stated. It's so annoying when it happens at the end of the battle so that you can't use it.. and that the trance is thus.. lost x.x

Deathreats
01-07-2004, 09:24 PM
i prefer limit breaks from ff7. much more convenient because you dont have to use it as soon as it climax's.

hmm but then again you get several turns with trances..

AdemA
01-09-2004, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Agent0042
If you're referring to Grand Dragons, there's a much easier to toast those than messing around with Trance: LV5 Death.

Yes I am... But can you get Lvl. 5 Death before you reach Burmecia??? If so, I wasn't aware of that O_O... If not, then I would like to remind you I'm talking about Disc 1...

Arcanine78
02-08-2004, 02:46 PM
Yeah, FFIX trancing wasn't all that great.
And the flashy purply pink or blue-white mode wasn't too hot either. IMO Zidane doing some number like SuperSaiyan would rule. But that's not originality sadly...
And acquiring lv5 death on disc1? explain yourself...

The Joker
02-09-2004, 03:31 PM
I liked the fact that it had slightly more relevance to the story. People could trance due to story issues or the damge issue. While it was a great idea, it wasn't taken far enough nor executed well enough.

As said earlier, it seemed a bit unfair how one could trance only for the battle to end right after they were tranced and would simply reset. In addition, the increased stats were occasionally all that happened, or just two turns, which seemed a bit creatively lacking.

Much like FF9, the right cards, but didn't play them as much as they should.

Kuro
02-10-2004, 03:38 PM
i think trance's r just too weak and not flashy enough and what's with the crazy glowing?

Toastie!
02-24-2004, 04:18 AM
i dont like trance very much

Phoenix*Rising
02-29-2004, 11:24 PM
trance wasn't all that bad...it fit with the game quite well, and it didn't make the game super-easy, like with ff8's limits which could be called upon far too often. i loved zidanes trance damage, and even freya's were pretty cool...dragon crest! ..i do agree that ff7's were the best.

Landlord of Sector 7
02-29-2004, 11:42 PM
Yeah 7's was good and so was 8's but 9's I didn't like because of these reasons.
1.) I didn't like the fact that the final trance could still only go up to 9999 where as most other ones (Omnislash, Missing Score, Lionheart) could go much higher.
2.) I always liked Limit Breaks because they looked cool and on this one there isn't much happening. Ya know?
3.) The fact that they normally come late in the battle and don't skip over to the next battle.