The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Score Discussion Thread

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Score Discussion Thread

|Music by: Hans Zimmer|Year: 2014|Cues: 54|

“I will cut the light and soon everyone in this city will know how it feels to live in my world.
A world without power. A world without mercy. A world without Spider-Man." ~ Electro

Now that we have the complete cue list, not forgetting some gorgeous artwork, all we need are the cues themselves! This thread is for any info regarding the ASM2 Sessions and also for general discussion about the score – why it’s amazing (or not, in some people’s opinion), what are people’s favourite cues, themes, etc. Just have a general chat really. 🙂

COMPLETE CUE LIST WITH CREDITS:

(Not chronological order)

SPIDEY LOGO / FLYING
Hans Zimmer

GRADUATION
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

ELECTRO SHOWDOWN PT 1 INTRO
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

ELECTRO SHOWDOWN PT 1
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

ELECTRO SHOWDOWN PT 2 / ELECTRO’S DEATH
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

PETER DISTRACTS OSCORP SECURITY
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

PETER’S ROOM
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

ELECTRO RELEASED
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

PETER VISITS HARRY
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Adam Peters

I CAN’T LOSE YOU TOO
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

I LOVE YOU
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

GWEN
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

I CAN’T GIVE YOU MY BLOOD
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

GOBLIN SHOWDOWN
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

HARRY TRANSFORMATION
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

LOBBY INSERT
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

OXFORD
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

HARRY WANTS SPIDEY’S BLOOD
Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

PETER FINDS CLUE
Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

PLANES / POWER GRID RESTORED
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

SPIDEY SENSE
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

MAX ELECTROCUTED
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Andy Page

ROOSEVELT STATION
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Dave Stewart, Andrew Kawczynski

PETER REMEMBERS
Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski

TRUCK CHASE
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Czarina Russell, Steve Mazzaro

PETER HALLUCINATES PT 1
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

PETER HALLUCINATES PT 2
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

EXTERIOR OSBORN
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

POWER STATION
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Steve Mazzaro

PARENTS ON PLANE
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

HARRY MEETS GWEN
Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

FLYING MONTAGE
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr

HARRY FINDS SECRET FILES
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

SPECIAL PROJECTS
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

ELECTROCUTING SPIDEY PT 1
Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

ELECTROCUTING SPIDEY PT 2
Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

OSCORP SURVEILLANCE / CONSPIRACY
Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

FAREWELL
Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

RHINO RETURNS
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

HARRY COMES HOME
Hans Zimmer, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

GWEN’S VOICEMAIL
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

THE END CREDIT SUITE
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

THE LOGOS
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

THE OPENING
Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

DR KAFKA EXPERIMENTS
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

ELECTRO IS BORN
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

ELECTRO WANDERS
Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

FUNERAL
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Andrew Kawczynski

HARRY & ELECTRO RETURN TO OSCORP
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

ITSY BITSY SPIDER THEME (ARRANGEMENT)
Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

MAX
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Ann Marie Simpson, Andrew Kawczynski

MAX GOES TO WORK
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

TIMES SQUARE PT 1
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

TIMES SQUARE PT 2
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Steve Mazzaro

CHRONOLOGICAL CUE LIST WITH SLATES:

LC 1m01 c6v3 0122 v1.00 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 1m01a c3v3 1125 v1.13 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 1m01a c5v5 0106 v3.09 SJL MIX 05-24 St Mix
LC 1m01b c5v4 0104 v2.06 SJL MIX 14-24 St Mix
LC 1m02 c5v5 0106 v23.01 SJL MIX 04-24 St Mix RPT 2
LC 1m03 c5v4 0104 v5.09 SJL MIX 10-24 St Mix WIDE v2
LC 1m04a c5v5 0106 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 1m05 c6v4 0124 v7.01 SJL MIX 05-24 St Mix
LC 1m08 c5v5 0106 v2.04 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m09 c5v3 0102 v1.16 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m10 c6v2pt 0122 v10.08 SJL MIX 09-24 St Mix
LC 2m10 c7v2 0131 v10.09 SJL MIX 13-24 St Mix
LC 2m10 c7v2 0131 v10.13 SJL Mix 15-24 St Mix
LC 2m11 c5v3 0102 v2.02 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 2m12 c5v3 0102 v1.02 SJL MIX 04-24 St Mix
LC 2m12 c7v2 0131 v1.03 AK SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 2m12 c7v2 0131 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m16 c5v3 0102 v1.07 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 2m18 c5v3 0102 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m18 c5v3 0102 v5.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 2m19 c5v3 0102 v1.13 SJL MIX 03-16 Pno NEW PNO
LC 2m20 c5v3 0102 v1.06 SJL MIX 09-24 St Mix
LC 2m20 c7v4 0131 v1.08 AK INS SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m22 c5v3 1220 v2.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 3m23 c3v3 1125 v22 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 3m24 c5v5 0110 v1.04 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 3m26 c5v4 0103 v1.06 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 3m28 c5v4 0103 v1.02 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 3m30 c5v3 1220 v1.08 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 4m31a c5v3 0103 v3.11 SJL MIX 09-24 St Mix
LC 4m31b c5v3 0103 v1.06 SJL MIX 07-24 St Mix
LC 4m31b c6v3 0123 v2.03 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 4m32 c5v3 0103 v2.03 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 4m32 c7v2 0201 v4.00 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 4m37 c5v3 0103 v2.04 SJL MIX 04-24 St Mix
LC 4m39 c5v3 0103 v5.05 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 4m40 c5v3 0103 v1.03 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 4m41 c5v3 0103 v1.09 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 5m41c c5v4 0105 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 5m42 c6v2 0116 v2.03 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 5m42a c7v3 0203 v3.00 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 5m44 c3v6 1126 v6.01 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 5m44 c5v4 0105 v9.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 5m45 c6 0113 v2.14 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 5m45a c6v2 0116 v4.00 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 6m46 c5v4 0106 v3.04 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 6m46 c7v3 0203 v4.07 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 6m46 c7v3 0203 v4.07 Alt SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 6m47 c5v4 0106 v2.01 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 6m47a c6v3 0123 v2.01 SJL MIX 04-24 St Mix
LC 6m48 c5v4 0106 v2.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 6m50 c6 0113 v1.01 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 6m51 c6v3 0123 v2.16 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 6m51 c7v3 0203 v3.03 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 6m52 c7 0203 v6.03 SJL MIX 10-24 St Mix
LC 6m53_54 c5v4 0106 v1.12 SJL MIX 05-24 St Mix
LC 7m55 c7v2 0201 v2.06 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 7m56 c6 0117 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 7m57 c7v2 0204 v2.06 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 7m58a c7v2 0204 v1.04 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 7m59 c6v4 0125 v4.05 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 7m60 c6 0117 v1.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 7m60 c6 0117 v1.00 ALT SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 7m61 c6v4 0125 v4.05 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 7m61 c6v4 0125 v5.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 7m61 c6v4 0125 v6.02 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 8m62 c7v4 0201 v1.05 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 8m63 c7v4 0201 v5.07 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix

I have to say, personally, I think this score is just as amazing Horner’s ASM, but just in a different way. From the very first notes, the opening cue immediately immersed me in the film. That theme is superb. I can’t wait to get the film version. Zimmer’s Spidey theme is equally awesome, and I absolutely love its appearance in "Truck Chase". Much though I don’t really like dubstep, or any electric stuff for that matter, Electro’s theme is perfect. "My Enemy" on the official soundtrack is much more listenable-to having seen the film, now that I know what’s going on on screen. The love theme/Gwen’s theme is simply beautiful (what more can I say?). And although a lot of people don’t seem to like Gobin’s material, I think it’s brilliant. His theme is very suitably creepy, and "Goblin Showdown" is incredibly exciting and intense. Just like the scene in the film. I could go on for hours about this score, but I’ll leave it open for your opinions and thoughts.

Sulley

Well, unless that unexpected happens, this is simply a "discussion thread" . . .

Did you read the thread title? Or anything else?

People are so DUMB

That being said, I am a little disappointed that the album seemed to be missing a few things, in particular the OSCORP motif and a few variations of the "family" theme.

Wow… You’re stupid!

That being said, I am a little disappointed that the album seemed to be missing a few things, in particular the OSCORP motif and a few variations of the "family" theme.

I was very disappointed with the commercial release, even the deluxe edition. But I was very happy to see that "Truck Chase" had been included on Disc 2, and hadn’t been tampered with in any way!

Agreed! Especially for a Zimmer release, it’s pretty rare. I’m still holding out for "Escape From Ship".

This has to be my most anticipated complete score of all time. SO MUCH GOOD STUFF.

I’m personally hyped for the "patrol" montage near the beginning, Harry and Max teaming up, and the last Electro fight. How ’bout you guys?

I couldn’t resist. My bad.

This has to be my most anticipated complete score of all time. SO MUCH GOOD STUFF.

I’m personally hyped for the "patrol" montage near the beginning, Harry and Max teaming up, and the last Electro fight. How ’bout you guys?

Nah… Zimmer produces nothing but loud noise and meandering soundscapes……. his so called music is absolute shite of the highest order

you want to listen to a great Spider-Man score…. go seek out Chris Youngs Spidery 3 or James Horner???s TASM1 score at least that score has original themes and not just rip off Aaron Copland – Fanfare for the Common Man which Zimmer did …. once you educate yourself and listen to good music you will find that there???s nothing behind Hans Zimmer than hype and Fanboys …. he???s is as unoriginal as they come

I can imagine what it must have been like in his RCP offices when he tried to come up for a theme for spidey….
Hans….. I need a theme for Spidey
Clones….. Hans you are a god among mere mortals we are not worthy
Hans….. I know but how can I come up with a theme unlike Horner???s lazy effort… you know I can???t compete with that….
Clones…. But Hans you are the second coming….. you???ve convinced everyone in Hollywood and all the little kiddies that Orchestral music is bad and that Orchestral music is for the Common Man
Hans…. Common Man you say…. like Spidey…. oh and I???ll be able to use that in all the EPK???s
Clones…. Yes
Hans….. I got it…. I???ll steal Aaron Copland???s A Fanfare for the Common Man, Sure my fanboys don???t listen to shite like that and I???ll make it ultra cool and I???ll convince them I???ve created a new style of music ….oh and I???ll need a Gimmick like the drums in MOS…… oh oh oh I got it….. what do the kiddies like today….. ah yes, I???ll add Dubstep…. yeah Fuckin Dubstep
Clones….. Oh Hans…. we are not worthy

And here we go again! Get a life dude! Your taste in music isn’t better than anyone else’s. It just seems that way to you;)

Have you nothing better to do with yourself than to enter threads for music you don’t like? Why badger those with different tastes?

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Can someone upload this in FLAC??

No one has it.

You suck, douche bag.

You know, people have been calling this guy dumb, but I think he’s just courageous (as his username suggests). After all, you have to be pretty courageous to show off your stupidity so bluntly like this. It’s actually kind of inspiring how courageous this guy is.

Anyway… I really liked the score per se, but I can’t help but feel that it didn’t quite fit in with the film, especially the more dubstep-py bits.

Maybe someone will share the score with us for Christmas…

you want to listen to a great Spider-Man score…. go seek out Chris Youngs Spidery 3 or James Horner???s TASM1 score at least that score has original themes and not just rip off Aaron Copland – Fanfare for the Common Man which Zimmer did …. once you educate yourself and listen to good music you will find that there???s nothing behind Hans Zimmer than hype and Fanboys …. he???s is as unoriginal as they come

I can imagine what it must have been like in his RCP offices when he tried to come up for a theme for spidey….
Hans….. I need a theme for Spidey
Clones….. Hans you are a god among mere mortals we are not worthy
Hans….. I know but how can I come up with a theme unlike Horner???s lazy effort… you know I can???t compete with that….
Clones…. But Hans you are the second coming….. you???ve convinced everyone in Hollywood and all the little kiddies that Orchestral music is bad and that Orchestral music is for the Common Man
Hans…. Common Man you say…. like Spidey…. oh and I???ll be able to use that in all the EPK???s
Clones…. Yes
Hans….. I got it…. I???ll steal Aaron Copland???s A Fanfare for the Common Man, Sure my fanboys don???t listen to shite like that and I???ll make it ultra cool and I???ll convince them I???ve created a new style of music ….oh and I???ll need a Gimmick like the drums in MOS…… oh oh oh I got it….. what do the kiddies like today….. ah yes, I???ll add Dubstep…. yeah Fuckin Dubstep
Clones….. Oh Hans…. we are not worthy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr6CnG5dmvM

———- Post added at 07:32 PM ———- Previous post was at 07:29 PM ———-

You suck, douche bag.

Sticks and Stones…. you ain???t getting me banned again Kid…….

Uploading TASM 2 in Chrono order also MOS

AMAZING (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)

Either that or he really is dumb

Or amazingly droll.

Oh please.

People love to shit all over other composers here, and no one bats an eye – especially when it comes to making Zimmer sound as though he is better than everyone else. Most of Zimmer’s more unreasonable fans cannot do anything more than tear others down to bring Zimmer up.

THEY suck, THEY are douchebags.

I don’t have much of an opinion on Zimmer really, most of what I’ve ever had to say involves how fans perceive him and his music more than anything else. I don’t enjoy much of his music but when I do, I make a point of saying that.

I guaran-fucking-tee I’m considered to be all kinds of asshole (hell in one Interstellar thread I was accused of "Starting a flame war", whatever the fuck that means) all because I was making comments about the hyperbole that comes out…that’s pathetic. These are DISCUSSION boards and if someone has a different opinion in a discussion, DISCUSS IT! Don’t just write them off because they don’t share it.

Someone like Rocklegend doesn’t like Zimmer and is always mentioning it…someone else is always praising him like some all-encompassing God figure….neither one is right, neither is more valid than the other. Some people are ‘trolls’, some people are overly sensitive. In the end is CHANGES NOTHING.

You will still love the music, he will still hate it. Neither of you can take that away from each other.

I think what Zimmer does to the sound of an orchestra, by processing it electronically, makes it sound incredibly cheesy and it’s a big reason I’m not into his action music…well FUCK YOU JHFAN! GO SUCK HORNER’S DICK WHICH HE PROBABLY RIPPED OFF OF SOMEONE ELSE AND PASSED HIS COCK OFF AS HIS OWN YOU LAZY THIEVING BASTARD!

Fuck me indeed. 🙂

(P.S. speaking of that hack known as James Horner, he and Zimmer have always been friends and he finds Zimmer’s music very big, impressive and even spectacular. He just doesn’t find – for him personally – that big exciting music having an emotional depth. Fuck Horner for saying that! Fuck him up his stupid ass and fuck me for agreeing with him because I don’t find Zimmer’s big music emotional either…adrenaline-inducing, but not something I have an emotional connection to with some exceptions.)

And if rumors are correct about the studio meddling with the script that originally was much darker and far less stupid – (e.g. Richard Parker builds a secret lab in the NYC subway line in a rail car that descended into the foundation. Methinks Sony did some of Walter White’s blue crystal meth and crossed Bruce Wayne with Walt to get that gem of an idea.) – then Sony only has to look into the mirror to find the guilty party responsible for the film’s less than stellar success.

I wonder how long it will take for Sony to do another Spider-Man reboot off their previous reboot?

Lately there have been insane rumors about the franchise, ranging from a movie about the women in Spidey’s lives to a movie about Aunt May. They’re all false, of course, but the rumors are somewhat believable because Sony has shown that they’re certainly capable of making such bad decisions with the franchise.

ASM2 wasn’t a bad movie. But the trailers gave away too much, and I’m sure it did not meet many people’s expectations.

Sony Pictures hack reveals internal discussion about Spider-Man – Spider-Man News (http://spidermannews.com/2014/12/04/sony-pictures-hack-reveals-internal-discussion-spider-man/)

And I quote:

Why are some studios making Hunger Games, Harry Potter, Twilight – and we are considering movies like Moneyball, Steve Jobs story, Captain Phillips Story, Evel Knievel story, etc. Are you aware that SPE only has 1 franchise – Spiderman. Yet, it took 5 years to generate a sequel? Spidey 3 was released in summer 2007, #4 in 2012. Don’t harry potters come out over 2-3 years? Are you aware that SPE has only 1 franchise – Spidey? Yet we waited 5 years after Spidey 3 (2007) to release #4? Have you read the SEC annual report? Disney will make $300M on Spidey merchandise this year alone. We won’t!

Now, this is from 2012, when the first film (or technically number 4) came out.

W/e dude ! Haters gonna hate ! I love TDKR Trilogy, Lion King, and TASM2 score !! MOS is badass and dark !! I couldn’t care what you think of Zimmer !! Zimmer is a legend !!

W/e dude ! Haters gonna hate ! I love TDKR Trilogy, Lion King, and TASM2 score !! MOS is badass and dark !! I couldn’t care what you think of Zimmer !! Zimmer is a legend !!

Jesus Christ Fanboys …………………. 😉

———- Post added at 09:35 PM ———- Previous post was at 09:34 PM ———-

Hello,

Some of you have probably come across this on YouTube, but I’m gonna give a try here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVFppe-pNM

I guess this is the track (it’s my presumption after seeing few discussions here and on hans-zimmer.com) that most of the TASM2 soundtrack fans are crazy about. My question would be: if there’s a chance to modify this track with removing the remaining SFX anyhow? I know that the uploader of this vid had said that he did everything he could, but let’s say I’m a bit dumb in these things and I just wanna check if that’s all we can get (while waiting… for the actual leak).

Anyways, I’m glad that James P. Sullivan has created this thread and just to add my humble opinion about the soundtrack: I honestly was surprised, because I was not expecting something like that from Zimmer (I’m talking about the drama part – Peter & Gwen, etc.). The action part was absolutely OK. And I don’t see the reason to hate all the ”dubstep” portraying Electro, etc. I think it fits nicely. I see much of the hate people throw at this work, but you can crucify me for what I will say – personally, this is my favourite Zimmer score so far (nope, it’s not Interstellar). Trust me, I’ve been a fan of his for many years, but things change and some music just starts to feel ”over-listened”. This was something fresh, especially after the TDK trilogy. And I loved the movie itself as well. It was fun, it was sad – it was awesome. I had a really great time, seeing it at the cinema. And I hate to confess this, but I cried like a little bitch when… well, you know. And this was the second time that any movie has brought me to tears – big thanks to the music.

And you know, all that Zimmer ”I like vs I hate” discussion is just useless in my opinion, because I think we can all agree – it’s just ”I like” and ”I don’t like” – a question of taste in music. Oh, and I just finished reading what JHFan said, concerning this particular thing and I can do nothing but agree in 100%.

Oh, and one more thing to add (to JHFan): for me TASM was one of the most beautiful ”classical” (as some people like to describe) scores I’ve heard in recent years. 😉

———- Post added at 10:04 PM ———- Previous post was at 10:02 PM ———-

The truth has been spoken 🙂

you do know that piece is on the OST and it was composed by Pharell Williams not Zimmer 😉

and it was composed by Pharrell Williams not Zimmer 😉
19. The Rest Of My Life (2:28)
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Andrew Kawczynski, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger

That was taken directly from Hans-Zimmer.com and I know damn sure that Hybrid Soldiers knows what he’s talking about. And funny, I see Zimmer’s name on this cue.

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Oh and chronological order..

The Logos
The Opening
Parents on Plane
Spidey Logo / Flying
Truck Chase
Peter Hallucinates, Pt. 1
Graduation
Peter Hallucinates, Pt. 2
I Can’t Lose You Too
Flying Montage
Peter’s Room
Peter Remembers
Max
Max Goes to Work
Harry Comes Home
Max Electrocuted
Peter Visits Harry
Oscorp Surveillance / Conspiracy
Electro is Born
Electro Wanders
Oxford
Spidey Sense
Times Square, Pt. 1
Times Square, Pt. 2
Gwen
Harry Finds Secret Files
Harry Wants Spidey’s Blood
Peter Distracts Oscorp Security
Harry Meets Gwen
Dr. Kafka Experiments
You’re My Boy
I Can’t Give You My Blood
Lobby Insert
Farewell
Peter Finds Clue
Special Projects
Roosevelt Station
Electro Released
Gwen’s Voicemail
Harry & Electro Return to Oscorp
Harry Transformation
I Love You
Power Station
Electro Showdown, Pt. 1 Intro
Electro Showdown, Pt. 1
Electrocuting Spidey, Pt. 1
Electrocuting Spidey, Pt. 2
Itsy Bitsy Spider Theme (Arrangement)
Electro’s Showdown, Pt. 2 / Electro’s Death
Planes / Power Grid Restored
Goblin Showdown
Funeral
Exterior Osborn
Rhino Returns
The End Credit Suite

W/e dude ! Haters gonna hate ! I love TDKR Trilogy, Lion King, and TASM2 score !! MOS is badass and dark !! I couldn’t care what you think of Zimmer !! Zimmer is a legend !!

so what!
I’m great fan of H.Z. myself, but this score is cheesy; I like MJ moves, but some of his games were disastrous; I like my mom’s cuisine but from time to time she spoils the soup; etc… Like James Newton Howard once said: "You couldn’t satisfy everyone all the time. It’s part of the job…"

I guess this is the track (it’s my presumption after seeing few discussions here and on hans-zimmer.com) that most of the TASM2 soundtrack fans are crazy about. My question would be: if there’s a chance to modify this track with removing the remaining SFX anyhow? I know that the uploader of this vid had said that he did everything he could, but let’s say I’m a bit dumb in these things and I just wanna check if that’s all we can get (while waiting… for the actual leak).

I knew it was gonna be The Rest of My Life you were linking to. The film mix really is amazing, it’s a shame they decided to add the vocals last minute after pressing the OST.

Before the Blu-ray was even released, I downloaded a 1080p rip and imported it onto Audition. I wanted to see if that part of the audio track was isloated and if I could extract it, but the leaves and wind SFX are on the same track, so there’s no way of getting it 100% clean.

19. The Rest Of My Life (2:28)
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Andrew Kawczynski, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger

That was taken directly from Hans-Zimmer.com and I know damn sure that Hybrid Soldiers knows what he’s talking about. And funny, I see Zimmer’s name on this cue.

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Oh and chronological order..

The Logos
The Opening
Parents on Plane
Spidey Logo / Flying
Truck Chase
Peter Hallucinates, Pt. 1
Graduation
Peter Hallucinates, Pt. 2
I Can’t Lose You Too
Flying Montage
Peter’s Room
Peter Remembers
Max
Max Goes to Work
Harry Comes Home
Max Electrocuted
Peter Visits Harry
Oscorp Surveillance / Conspiracy
Electro is Born
Electro Wanders
Oxford
Spidey Sense
Times Square, Pt. 1
Times Square, Pt. 2
Gwen
Harry Finds Secret Files
Harry Wants Spidey’s Blood
Peter Distracts Oscorp Security
Harry Meets Gwen
Dr. Kafka Experiments
You’re My Boy
I Can’t Give You My Blood
Lobby Insert
Farewell
Peter Finds Clue
Special Projects
Roosevelt Station
Electro Released
Gwen’s Voicemail
Harry & Electro Return to Oscorp
Harry Transformation
I Love You
Power Station
Electro Showdown, Pt. 1 Intro
Electro Showdown, Pt. 1
Electrocuting Spidey, Pt. 1
Electrocuting Spidey, Pt. 2
Itsy Bitsy Spider Theme (Arrangement)
Electro’s Showdown, Pt. 2 / Electro’s Death
Planes / Power Grid Restored
Goblin Showdown
Funeral
Exterior Osborn
Rhino Returns
The End Credit Suite

Ah yes I forgot about the film version……

And the No Place Like Home…… yes that was written by Pharell Williams…. those were chords which Pharrell Williams had when he played them to Zimmer during the Jamming sessions 😉 …. Zimmer even states this in interviews when talking about the score…. Zimmer acknowledges that alot of the score was derived from the songs written by the band the Magnificent Six and were adapted into the score…. The songs are fuckin great by the way…. Love em

You seem to have quite the encyclopedia on this score for someone who absolutely cannot stand Zimmer or his music. Interesting.

The songs are fuckin great by the way…. Love em

Does not compute

Maybe.

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Agreed! Especially for a Zimmer release, it’s pretty rare. I’m still holding out for "Escape From Ship".

What’s "Escape From Ship"? It’s not ASM2… is it?

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Well, it’s a start!

This has to be my most anticipated complete score of all time. SO MUCH GOOD STUFF.

I’m personally hyped for the "patrol" montage near the beginning, Harry and Max teaming up, and the last Electro fight. How ’bout you guys?

Totally agreed. Definitely one of my most anticipated sessions ever. There’s so much good material missing!

No, MoS. Apparently it’s the Imperfect Lock of MoS. I don’t understand why it’s such an amazing cue. But then again, I’ve seen the film 3 or 4 times and don’t know it too well so maybe I’m missing something.

Why are some studios making Hunger Games, Harry Potter, Twilight – and we are considering movies like Moneyball, Steve Jobs story, Captain Phillips Story, Evel Knievel story, etc. Are you aware that SPE only has 1 franchise – Spiderman. Yet, it took 5 years to generate a sequel? Spidey 3 was released in summer 2007, #4 in 2012. Don’t harry potters come out over 2-3 years? Are you aware that SPE has only 1 franchise – Spidey? Yet we waited 5 years after Spidey 3 (2007) to release #4? Have you read the SEC annual report? Disney will make $300M on Spidey merchandise this year alone. We won’t!

Now, this is from 2012, when the first film (or technically number 4) came out.

Is this basically an implied confirmation that Sony was shameless enough to try and set up a reboot in the timeframe it takes to make a sequelinstead??? They do know those are totally different concepts? Jesus… I can’t tell if this is pure desperation or sheer stupidity, really. Sony reeks of desperation at this point, and that’s been known for quite a while. They could’ve released TASM 8 months after Spider-Man 3 and it wouldn’t have made a difference. I thought WB were hacks for ruining DC films for decades, but Sony takes the cake this time.

BTW… when I logged in and saw this thread on the main page, my heart almost skip a beat as I read "The Amazing Spider…"; but when I clicked it and read the full name, the lyrics of "My Enemy" came to my mind:

<<You liied to meee!!!>> xDD

Hopefully this’ll arrive soon. Scorepranos’ sporadic return and a few other leaks have ignited my suspicion that something big is coming down this Christmas/New Year. I hope I’m not wrong D:

you want to listen to a great Spider-Man score…. go seek out Chris Youngs Spidery 3 or James Horner???s TASM1 score at least that score has original themes and not just rip off Aaron Copland – Fanfare for the Common Man which Zimmer did …. once you educate yourself and listen to good music you will find that there???s nothing behind Hans Zimmer than hype and Fanboys …. he???s is as unoriginal as they come

I can imagine what it must have been like in his RCP offices when he tried to come up for a theme for spidey….
Hans….. I need a theme for Spidey
Clones….. Hans you are a god among mere mortals we are not worthy
Hans….. I know but how can I come up with a theme unlike Horner???s lazy effort… you know I can???t compete with that….
Clones…. But Hans you are the second coming….. you???ve convinced everyone in Hollywood and all the little kiddies that Orchestral music is bad and that Orchestral music is for the Common Man
Hans…. Common Man you say…. like Spidey…. oh and I???ll be able to use that in all the EPK???s
Clones…. Yes
Hans….. I got it…. I???ll steal Aaron Copland???s A Fanfare for the Common Man, Sure my fanboys don???t listen to shite like that and I???ll make it ultra cool and I???ll convince them I???ve created a new style of music ….oh and I???ll need a Gimmick like the drums in MOS…… oh oh oh I got it….. what do the kiddies like today….. ah yes, I???ll add Dubstep…. yeah Fuckin Dubstep
Clones….. Oh Hans…. we are not worthy

Hey, I’ not being a bitchy fanboy. People can shit on Zimmer all they want, I don’t care. Still doesn’t change the way I feel about the man’s music

EXACTLY.

Hence my own sense of self-deprecation earlier. 🙂

Hence my own sense of self-deprecation earlier. 🙂

I know you’re not too fond of him (TDK Trilogy aside), and I don’t give a fuck. That’s what you do or don’t like. A friend of mine doesn’t like soda or chocolate. Sounds like a sin, but whatever. I’m not getting my pants in a bunch over it. Everyone is different.

you want to listen to a great Spider-Man score…. go seek out Chris Youngs Spidery 3 or James Horner???s TASM1 score at least that score has original themes and not just rip off Aaron Copland – Fanfare for the Common Man which Zimmer did …. once you educate yourself and listen to good music you will find that there???s nothing behind Hans Zimmer than hype and Fanboys …. he???s is as unoriginal as they come

I can imagine what it must have been like in his RCP offices when he tried to come up for a theme for spidey….
Hans….. I need a theme for Spidey
Clones….. Hans you are a god among mere mortals we are not worthy
Hans….. I know but how can I come up with a theme unlike Horner???s lazy effort… you know I can???t compete with that….
Clones…. But Hans you are the second coming….. you???ve convinced everyone in Hollywood and all the little kiddies that Orchestral music is bad and that Orchestral music is for the Common Man
Hans…. Common Man you say…. like Spidey…. oh and I???ll be able to use that in all the EPK???s
Clones…. Yes
Hans….. I got it…. I???ll steal Aaron Copland???s A Fanfare for the Common Man, Sure my fanboys don???t listen to shite like that and I???ll make it ultra cool and I???ll convince them I???ve created a new style of music ….oh and I???ll need a Gimmick like the drums in MOS…… oh oh oh I got it….. what do the kiddies like today….. ah yes, I???ll add Dubstep…. yeah Fuckin Dubstep
Clones….. Oh Hans…. we are not worthy

Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

Seriously, though, I was brought up absolutely immersed in classical music and am very well educated in it, though I say so myself. I am a violinist, and also play guitar and a little piano. I know Copland very well, and yes, you could say Zimmer’s Spidey fanfare is similar, but then so is any trumpet fanfare of that sort.

To state that ASM2 (and any other Zimmer score) has no original themes is uneducated. But don’t worry – once you educate yourself and actually listen to some Zimmer with an open mind, you find there’s plenty of reason behind the hype. He may not be as original as say, Schoenberg, or someone like that, but actually his music is a heck of a lot better than a lot of other composers out there. And he has countless original themes. Beautiful, incredible, inspiring, original themes.

But thanks for sharing your opinions. I guess that’s what this thread is about. 🙂

Agreed. I read about that on HZ.com, "Escaping The Ship" was written by Andrew Kawczynski or Steve Mazzaro, so it’s not that great! Saving Loise is better.

Anyway… I really liked the score per se, but I can’t help but feel that it didn’t quite fit in with the film, especially the more dubstep-py bits.

Maybe someone will share the score with us for Christmas…

I have to disagree with you on one point – I thought it fitted the film spot on!

Everything else you said – agreed. 🙂

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Can someone upload this in FLAC??

I’m gonna put this as politely as possible – please acquire a pair of glasses.

This has to be from the 2010 Academy Awards when Giacchino (center, with his Oscar) won for Up. I see Beltrami and Zimmer to his left, but who are the two to his right? Is that Horner on the end?

I can’t think. Zimmer was up for SH, Giacchino up for Up, Horner up for Avatar, Beltrami up for The Hurt Locker, and I can’t remember the 5th…

And really, it’s more to do with not being able to really enjoy something when the end result sounds off to me. Take "The Battle" and "Barbarian Horde" from GLADIATOR. It has that quasi-swashbuckling adventure theme on brass, and it’s a great theme….but it sounds so artificial. The demo for "The Battle" sounds almost the same. Nowadays Zimmer probably wouldn’t process the brass to that extent. It’s not so much about themes or ideas, just the end result doesn’t sound good to my ears. That’s why I favored "The Dark Knight" over "Batman Begins", because it had similar music but the performance wasn’t altered to that extent as the first score was. It was more organic, more acoustic. I like electronics, they don’t bother me at all. I guess it’s all in the application.

And I love love LOVE CRIMSON TIDE as well. The enhancements done to the orchestra work well in that score.

P.S.

Yes, that is James Horner in the blue Avatar-inspired bow tie. I think it might be Buck Sanders, Beltrami’s co-composer on "Hurt Locker" next to him.

And yes, I just made that meme. 🙂

1) James P. Sullivan created this thread to talk about TASM2, TASM2 & TASM2. TASM was awesome and so on, but once again, can we respect the creator of the thread.

2) Can we (asking once again) avoid the ”Zimmer love/hate” discussion? Because OBVIOUSLY this thread is dedicated for the discussion about the score itself (tracks, themes and other things, concerning the music itself).

3) Since it is the TASM2 thread and the Zimmer is the main guy in this one, wouldn’t it be polite to avoid all the critique which comes basically from the personal feelings (aka: dislikes?)

In scores we trust. Peace.

1) Discussion of the first score is inevitable.

2) if we are to follow your suggestion that this indeed a DISCUSSION thread, then that warrants for and against type opinions. It’s called discussion, not a "TASM 2 PRAISE" thread.

3) See number 2.

P.S. I’ve gone on record as having liked the score to this film.

Sony Pictures hack reveals internal discussion about Spider-Man – Spider-Man News (http://spidermannews.com/2014/12/04/sony-pictures-hack-reveals-internal-discussion-spider-man/)

And I quote: Why are some studios making Hunger Games, Harry Potter, Twilight ??? and we are considering movies like Moneyball, Steve Jobs story, Captain Phillips Story, Evel Knievel story, etc. Are you aware that SPE only has 1 franchise ??? Spiderman. Yet, it took 5 years to generate a sequel? Spidey 3 was released in summer 2007, #4 in 2012. Don???t harry potters come out over 2-3 years? Are you aware that SPE has only 1 franchise ??? Spidey? Yet we waited 5 years after Spidey 3 (2007) to release #4? Have you read the SEC annual report? Disney will make $300M on Spidey merchandise this year alone. We won???t!

Now, this is from 2012, when the first film (or technically number 4) came out.
There’s a story that’s goes back to Hollywood’s Golden Age, 1910s through the early 1930s and the founding of the Oscars. Its official and rather long title is "The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences." When Charlie Chaplin, one of Hollywood’s first superstars learned of its formation, he said, as the story goes, "What art? What science?"

Hollywood is a business to make money, as the above memo reveals, and if any movie comes out that has artistic merit, its probably by accident or by miracle. Those movies the memo references are good films but they didn’t set the box office alight. Franchises and sequels and their merchandise are where studios make their money.

But the reason why Marvel knows how to run a superhero franchise and Sony knows how to run it into the ground comes down to this: if it ain’t on the page, it ain’t on the stage. [/B]

Marvel understands writing, its what they do and its where their empire starts. You have to know what makes a story interesting and how to create compelling characters. Just stringing a bunch of scenes together and throwing in some cool one liners does not make a script or dialogue.

Just so many people are aware, those titles were pulled from ASCAP and BMI databases. it doesn’t mean a leak is due out, but it might make it easier for ‘the right people’ to find it.

https://mega.co.nz/#F!105QUJZQ!oEmQSvMIIjWB4mkXiNkLbw

Seriously, though, I was brought up absolutely immersed in classical music and am very well educated in it, though I say so myself. I am a violinist, and also play guitar and a little piano. I know Copland very well, and yes, you could say Zimmer’s Spidey fanfare is similar, but then so is any trumpet fanfare of that sort.

To state that ASM2 (and any other Zimmer score) has no original themes is uneducated. But don’t worry – once you educate yourself and actually listen to some Zimmer with an open mind, you find there’s plenty of reason behind the hype. He may not be as original as say, Schoenberg, or someone like that, but actually his music is a heck of a lot better than a lot of other composers out there. And he has countless original themes. Beautiful, incredible, inspiring, original themes.

But thanks for sharing your opinions. I guess that’s what this thread is about. 🙂

I have 40 plus years playing,composing, arranging,editing music …. I???m well versed….. 😉

And Zimmer???s Spidey theme is note for note that same… also his Battle Music for Gladiator is note for note the same as Holst???s planets

Hollywood is a business to make money, as the above memo reveals, and if any movie comes out that has artistic merit, its probably by accident or by miracle. Those movies the memo references are good films but they didn’t set the box office alight. Franchises and sequels and their merchandise are where studios make their money.

But the reason why Marvel knows how to run a superhero franchise and Sony knows how to run it into the ground comes down to this: if it ain’t on the page, it ain’t on the stage. [/B]

Marvel understands writing, its what they do and its where their empire starts. You have to know what makes a story interesting and how to create compelling characters. Just stringing a bunch of scenes together and throwing in some cool one liners does not make a script or dialogue.

You’re absolutely right.

There were so many 80s action movies that went by based on that very principle you closed with, and it’s entirely true. I guess for those older movies it worked because at least the actors involved and the stunts pulled were charismatic and creative, and likely of the moment. Now it’s all done by committee and that committee hasn’t learned anything. Shame. Marvel might be a committee-based business but at least it’s made up of some genuinely creative minds who want to put the best stories they can out there, and they truly respect their characters and the fans who enjoy them.

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OK, you are right. I’m sorry.

I’m not trying to be mean, I’m just saying that discussion implies that people can offer their thoughts, positive or otherwise. As long as it’s constructive and people can actually say WHY they like, love, dislike or hate something beyond the ‘it sucks because…well it just does’ and actually bring about thoughtful reasoning, there’s nothing wrong with saying what you feel, good or bad.

There were so many 80s action movies that went by based on that very principle you closed with, and it’s entirely true. I guess for those older movies it worked because at least the actors involved and the stunts pulled were charismatic and creative, and likely of the moment. Now it’s all done by committee and that committee hasn’t learned anything. Shame. Marvel might be a committee-based business but at least it’s made up of some genuinely creative minds who want to put the best stories they can out there, and they truly respect their characters and the fans who enjoy them.

Studios are made up of Hedge Fund managers…. investors and probably bankers…. the creative people, the people who gave talent a chance are all but gone……why do you think hacks like Snyder and Zimmer keep getting work…. it???s because they are nothing more than Yes men to the studios and have Rabid fanboys …… The days of Alan Ladd jnr and their ilk have long gone…… in this day and age a film like Star Wars or Alien would never be or get made….. now it???s all Zero risk and that???s why franchises and comicbook,novels are getting made…. that???s why release dates are announced before scripts and directors…. target fanboys and you???re guaranteed the money… a case in point…. Man Of Steel…. Disaster….. sideline him for WB???s cashcow…. Batman

Some of you have probably come across this on YouTube, but I’m gonna give a try here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVFppe-pNM

I guess this is the track (it’s my presumption after seeing few discussions here and on hans-zimmer.com) that most of the TASM2 soundtrack fans are crazy about. My question would be: if there’s a chance to modify this track with removing the remaining SFX anyhow? I know that the uploader of this vid had said that he did everything he could, but let’s say I’m a bit dumb in these things and I just wanna check if that’s all we can get (while waiting… for the actual leak).

Anyways, I’m glad that James P. Sullivan has created this thread and just to add my humble opinion about the soundtrack: I honestly was surprised, because I was not expecting something like that from Zimmer (I’m talking about the drama part – Peter & Gwen, etc.). The action part was absolutely OK. And I don’t see the reason to hate all the ”dubstep” portraying Electro, etc. I think it fits nicely. I see much of the hate people throw at this work, but you can crucify me for what I will say – personally, this is my favourite Zimmer score so far (nope, it’s not Interstellar). Trust me, I’ve been a fan of his for many years, but things change and some music just starts to feel ”over-listened”. This was something fresh, especially after the TDK trilogy. And I loved the movie itself as well. It was fun, it was sad – it was awesome. I had a really great time, seeing it at the cinema. And I hate to confess this, but I cried like a little bitch when… well, you know. And this was the second time that any movie has brought me to tears – big thanks to the music.

And you know, all that Zimmer ”I like vs I hate” discussion is just useless in my opinion, because I think we can all agree – it’s just ”I like” and ”I don’t like” – a question of taste in music. Oh, and I just finished reading what JHFan said, concerning this particular thing and I can do nothing but agree in 100%.

Oh, and one more thing to add (to JHFan): for me TASM was one of the most beautiful ”classical” (as some people like to describe) scores I’ve heard in recent years. 😉

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The truth has been spoken 🙂

I agree with you 100%. Literally. Even the crying bit. I watched the last hour of the movie again whilst on the bus this afternoon and I couldn’t stop myself even then. Garfield’s acting + Zimmer’s score = one heck of an awesomely moving scene.

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Jesus Christ Fanboys …………………. 😉

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you do know that piece is on the OST and it was composed by Pharell Williams not Zimmer 😉

The whole point of the YouTube upload was that it was the film version of the cue. Not the version on the OST.

And the motif was composed by Pharrell for the song he wrote for the film. Zimmer was the one who masterfully crafted it into the score and made it so beautifully moving.

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Not the film version, so technically it is NOT on the OST, at least what abryus1337 is searching for.

19. The Rest Of My Life (2:28)
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Andrew Kawczynski, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger

That was taken directly from Hans-Zimmer.com and I know damn sure that Hybrid Soldiers knows what he’s talking about. And funny, I see Zimmer’s name on this cue.

My point exactly. You beat me to it. 😉

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Oh and chronological order…

Thanks so much! 😀

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No, MoS. Apparently it’s the Imperfect Lock of MoS. I don’t understand why it’s such an amazing cue. But then again, I’ve seen the film 3 or 4 times and don’t know it too well so maybe I’m missing something.

Thanks for the explanation! Haven’t yet seen MoS…

The OST is completely out of order. A chronological link was posted a few posts up

Don’t know what to tell you. I don’t exactly know the order of the score myself and I’ve seen the film only twice.

There were so many 80s action movies that went by based on that very principle you closed with, and it’s entirely true. I guess for those older movies it worked because at least the actors involved and the stunts pulled were charismatic and creative, and likely of the moment. Now it’s all done by committee and that committee hasn’t learned anything. Shame. Marvel might be a committee-based business but at least it’s made up of some genuinely creative minds who want to put the best stories they can out there, and they truly respect their characters and the fans who enjoy them.

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That’s the aftereffect of the first Terminator film: the "I’ll be back" syndrome. (Which, BTW, was just a line in the script. No significance attached to it at all. But it became iconic.) After that most eighties action films tried to craft a catchphrase or phrases that the audience would remember. (Remember, "go ahead, make my day.") And just about every Schwarzenegger flick had a bunch, most didn’t work. You generally can’t manufacture a hit although some franchises no matter how bad, and I’m looking at you Transformers, Pirates and latest TMNT, are bullet and idiot proof.

<<You liied to meee!!!>> xDD

Hopefully this’ll arrive soon. Scorepranos’ sporadic return and a few other leaks have ignited my suspicion that something big is coming down this Christmas/New Year. I hope I’m not wrong D:

Haha, sorry about that. Should’ve posted in the discussion forum. Apologies to you and anyone else suffering the same after-effects of an Electro-induced heart attack.

Elements which work well are probably the material in the opening sequence and the suite "Harry Suite" which I think perfectly captures the churning and burbling of hatred within the character.

The Electro theme was at least experimental in its guise but is never given IMHO further development. It needed to evolve more than it did.

There is a fanfare for Spidey, but this is never worked into the score beyond two or three appearances and just feels too OTT and not serious making it seem cheesy when it does appear. It could have worked better given a leitmotivic treatment similar to Danny Elfman’s theme and John Williams’ Raiders March. So when it rears its head, it feels like it came from nowhere.

Many people came together on this score only to sound disparate and disjointed especially regarding the material of Gwen and Peters relationship. There was a moment in the film where I couldn’t tell if a pop song was about to play or if this was some working of Pharell Williams.

For me, the material around the Harry Osbourne character is one of the dwindling reasons I bought the score.

Next time Zimmer should just keep to his RCP friends or better yet collaborate with the composers who are proactively more ingenious at crafting scores than he is. Go see John Powell, Harry Gregson Williams or James Newton Howard.

I can’t think. Zimmer was up for SH, Giacchino up for Up, Horner up for Avatar, Beltrami up for The Hurt Locker, and I can’t remember the 5th…

Yes, that’s Horner on the end. Look up the video (YouTube) about Horner scoring ASM. It’s wonderful seeing the actual composer playing the themes on the piano and talking about the score, as well as conducting the studio orchestra.

And Zimmer???s Spidey theme is note for note that same… also his Battle Music for Gladiator is note for note the same as Holst???s planets

You have clearly not listened to ASM2. Well, maybe you listened to it once. Spidey’s theme has similar notes and similar rhythms, but it is not "note-for-note" the same.

It’s just not.

Plain and simple.

And hey, one of Powell’s themes for Ice Age 3 is almost identical to the beginning of Jupiter. But that doesn’t mean it’s not original. It’s simply a little nod to those who know their Holst.

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Ok, so… Perfectionism or whatever. Everything sounds really nice (I mean it) and perhaps I am wrong, but… Am I the only one who noticed that ”Ground Rules” in the movie was actually placed between ”The Rest of My Life” and ”You’re that Spider Guy”?

Thanks for the heads-up! I’ve been working on my own chronological version for the last few days and hadn’t got that far. I knew it wasn’t in the Ground Rules scene, or the after-graduation scene, as others have said. I’ll keep that in mind as I continue. The reason I’m not just using someone else’s chronological version is because of just that. I’m a perfectionist (some of you here already know that!) and I can’t trust someone else to do it! 😉

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I think there are some great elements in what is a really confused score. Nothing really flows in a narrative sense.

Elements which work well are probably the material in the opening sequence and the suite "Harry Suite" which I think perfectly captures the churning and burbling of hatred within the character.

The Electro theme was at least experimental in its guise but is never given IMHO further development. It needed to evolve more than it did.

There is a fanfare for Spidey, but this is never worked into the score beyond two or three appearances and just feels too OTT and not serious making it seem cheesy when it does appear. It could have worked better given a leitmotivic treatment similar to Danny Elfman’s theme and John Williams’ Raiders March. So when it rears its head, it feels like it came from nowhere.

Many people came together on this score only to sound disparate and disjointed especially regarding the material of Gwen and Peters relationship. There was a moment in the film where I couldn’t tell if a pop song was about to play or if this was some working of Pharell Williams.

For me, the material around the Harry Osbourne character is one of the dwindling reasons I bought the score.

Next time Zimmer should just keep to his RCP friends or better yet collaborate with the composers who are proactively more ingenious at crafting scores than he is. Go see John Powell, Harry Gregson Williams or James Newton Howard.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I have to disagree about Spider-Man’s theme though. I think it’s incredibly majestic, triumphant, and downright exhilarating! And it does appear throughout the score in different forms, whether that’s strings, piano, etc.

I do agree with you about Harry’s theme – it fits the character perfectly.

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Wow… You’re stupid!

Just had to let you know, that cracks me up every time I read it. XD

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I’m going to bed now, as I have to get up at 5:30am and its now 12:43am.

But thank you to those who have shared their opinions in a coherent and sensible way. That’s what this thread is for! And thanks to those of you who tried to get this thread back on track. 😉

I certainly don’t remember calling this thread the Hans Zimmer: Love Him or Hate Him Discussion Thread…

Which is available to see in some of my Spider-Man threads for Horner’s score.

Absolutely, that’s just fantastic. Especially, considering that these videos are quite rare.

I took it directly off of the Blu-ray release. NL197 on there is me.

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I’m going to bed now, as I have to get up at 5:30am and its now 12:43am.

But thank you to those who have shared their opinions in a coherent and sensible way. That’s what this thread is for! And thanks to those of you who tried to get this thread back on track. 😉

I certainly don’t remember calling this thread the Hans Zimmer – Love Him or Hate Him Discussion Thread…

Unfortunately, there’s "something" about Zimmer that sets certain people on a frenzy mode…

I’ve had a hard time arranging a chronological order for this movie too, mostly because many things don’t match what you hear on the film. For example, "There He Is" sounds like it could be a version of the opening cue, because I can’t match it anywhere else. To be honest, I don’t mind that much that the tracks come out of order, that’s typical Zimmer by now; what I hate is that the tracks are somehow arranged like a dj set, blending one song into the next, poorly cutting between one and the other. That’s horrible. Doesn’t matter what order to I arrange the tracks in, there’s always like a second and a half that belongs somewhere else. It’s things like these that make me wonder, how can Zimmer even sleep at night…

Also here???s the Chrono order for Man Of Steel

https://mega.co.nz/#F!4wJVlBbT!jdKWTzz3bFFj1ADwixM8fA

I think the Problem with TASM2 is that many cues are blended together to make long suites…..

That’s right – "Ground Rules" is from that scene. But you can’t stick it between "The Rest of My Life" and "You’re That Spider Guy" because they’ve been crossfaded so badly that "You’re That Spider Guy" starts before "The Rest of My Life" ends. Damn crossfading.

This is taken from an interview I transcribed from audio to text. The interview itself is here:

CONVERSATION WITH JAMES HORNER* JAMES HORNER (http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/conversation-james-horner/)

While what I am quoting is from the unedited interview. Some parts were cut out of the final publishing.

And I quote:

INT: So the “Spider-Man” movie was quite unusual for you, it was probably the directors personality that brought you to this project because he had a different vision for this film?

James Horner: He was very inexperienced and he and I had a very good relationship and the producers had their own opinion.

INT: Okay…

JH: And they didn’t want his input. And then Sony had their own, they just wanted action.
To me the whole thing about doing the movie was I liked the director and there was a chance to write something for the two lead characters and then she dies in the next movie.

INT: Yeah.

JH: But the next movie ended up being so terrible, I didn’t want to do it. It was just dreadful. And I guess Hans did it with a whole group of people.

INT: Yeah that’s right.

JH: They spent a fortune which was crazy, on the music with all these rappers and it didn’t help the movie.

Now keep this in mind (before you take a dump for what I’ve quoted here):

Horner has gone on record many, many times about wanting no part of these Superhero franchise movies (he said so in 2010), and only did it really because of Marc Webb. He’s also said many times (including the interview above) that he’s tired of having to deal with 7 or 8 producers, studio executives, financial backers, and all these hangers-on, when the old days a composer would ONLY have to please the director him or herself. His job is to work with a filmmaker to tell a good story, not some studio hotshot who wants bigger explosions to sell more tickets.

So this is not ‘sour grapes’ that he didn’t score TASM 2. The only sour grapes Horner has come from dealing with so many people who really don’t have any concern for the film itself beyond how much money it can make, and not the filmmaker who wants to make the best film he can.

Some of you don’t agree that TASM 2 was bad but many people do think it was a terrible movie. I half-agree. I think it was FUN but also full of shit. It had great moments and some absolute terrible moments…I’m looking right at YOU Dane DeHaan!

Also, Horner’s comment about how all that money for music didn’t help is true: The Electro chanting was one of the most heavily criticized aspects of the film, and the film itself was not the success Sony wanted, which we all know. I don’t think it helped either. I think it was a little strange but it didn’t help or hinder. It was just there and weird. Fun though.

This is taken from an interview I transcribed from audio to text. The interview itself is here:

CONVERSATION WITH JAMES HORNER* JAMES HORNER (http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/conversation-james-horner/)

While what I am quoting is from the unedited interview. Some parts were cut out of the final publishing.

And I quote:

Now keep this in mind (before you take a dump for what I’ve quoted here):

Horner has gone on record many, many times about wanting no part of these Superhero franchise movies (he said so in 2010), and only did it really because of Marc Webb. He’s also said many times (including the interview above) that he’s tired of having to deal with 7 or 8 producers, studio executives, financial backers, and all these hangers-on, when the old days a composer would ONLY have to please the director him or herself. His job is to work with a filmmaker to tell a good story, not some studio hotshot who wants bigger explosions to sell more tickets.

So this is not ‘sour grapes’ that he didn’t score TASM 2. The only sour grapes Horner has come from dealing with so many people who really don’t have any concern for the film itself beyond how much money it can make, and not the filmmaker who wants to make the best film he can.

Some of you don’t agree that TASM 2 was bad but many people do think it was a terrible movie. I half-agree. I think it was FUN but also full of shit. It had great moments and some absolute terrible moments…I’m looking right at YOU Dane DeHaan!

Also, Horner’s comment about how all that money for music didn’t help is true: The Electro chanting was one of the most heavily criticized aspects of the film, and the film itself was not the success Sony wanted, which we all know. I don’t think it helped either. I think it was a little strange but it didn’t help or hinder. It was just there and weird. Fun though.

It also didn???t help the fact that Andrew Garfield had a right go at Sony for Interferring….. I admire Horner for his Honesty and he???s dead right about the music…. it was the most panned aspect of the film and it was truly shite…. Horners music for TASM1 Was the only decent aspect of the first one imo….

I love when Horner says And I guess Hans did it with a whole group of people. ….. bang on the money that…. Hack Zimmer can???t write a score on his own from start to finish which makes the majority of his music in films very jarring and very much Copy and Paste

I love when Horner says And I guess Hans did it with a whole group of people. ….. bang on the money that…. Hack Zimmer can???t write a score on his own from start to finish which makes the majority of his music in films very jarring and very much Copy and Paste

I’m sorry, that is not correct. The majority of the negative reviews focused on the overcrowded plot and poorly written characters.

Don’t try to bend reality to fit into your point of view. You don’t like the score, or Zimmer. Unfortunately, you’re not able to express yourself or any opinion with anything that resembles reason, tact, or rational thought. So from the beginning, nothing you say has any kind of validity at all.

This is taken from an interview I transcribed from audio to text. The interview itself is here:

CONVERSATION WITH JAMES HORNER* JAMES HORNER (http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/conversation-james-horner/)

While what I am quoting is from the unedited interview. Some parts were cut out of the final publishing.

And I quote:

Now keep this in mind (before you take a dump for what I’ve quoted here):

Horner has gone on record many, many times about wanting no part of these Superhero franchise movies (he said so in 2010), and only did it really because of Marc Webb. He’s also said many times (including the interview above) that he’s tired of having to deal with 7 or 8 producers, studio executives, financial backers, and all these hangers-on, when the old days a composer would ONLY have to please the director him or herself. His job is to work with a filmmaker to tell a good story, not some studio hotshot who wants bigger explosions to sell more tickets.

So this is not ‘sour grapes’ that he didn’t score TASM 2. The only sour grapes Horner has come from dealing with so many people who really don’t have any concern for the film itself beyond how much money it can make, and not the filmmaker who wants to make the best film he can.

Some of you don’t agree that TASM 2 was bad but many people do think it was a terrible movie. I half-agree. I think it was FUN but also full of shit. It had great moments and some absolute terrible moments…I’m looking right at YOU Dane DeHaan!

Also, Horner’s comment about how all that money for music didn’t help is true: The Electro chanting was one of the most heavily criticized aspects of the film, and the film itself was not the success Sony wanted, which we all know. I don’t think it helped either. I think it was a little strange but it didn’t help or hinder. It was just there and weird. Fun though.

Well Hans was the first choice for TASM 1, refused because of TDKR…

The franchise was doomed anyway… The second is not a good movie, but it improved slightly from the aweful first film (the crane scene with C. Thomas Howell is most cheesy stuff I’ve seen in a movie in 2 decades). Horner’s score was good. Zimmer’s score is good too, and the Times Square scene is the only scene that can save this movie… As much as I don’t like Pharrell, the Electro "chanting" wasn’t bad in film, and Johnny Marr’s guitar riff is awesome in that track…

The franchise was doomed anyway… The second is not a good movie, but it improved slightly from the aweful first film (the crane scene with C. Thomas Howell is most cheesy stuff I’ve seen in a movie in 2 decades). Horner’s score was good. Zimmer’s score is good too, and the Times Square scene is the only scene that can save this movie… As much as I don’t like Pharrell, the Electro "chanting" wasn’t bad in film, and Johnny Marr’s guitar riff is awesome in that track…

This is not true…. Horner was the only choice and it was Sony who choose him….. Zimmer was never even in contention…. as for TASM 2 …… Webb wanted that other Hack Jablonsky …. he couldn???t do because of his loyalty to Bay and convinced Zimmer to do it…… Webb has stated this in many interviews….. not the epk???s

This completely contradicts every article I’ve read about TASM1/2 Horner-Webb-Zimmer debocle. To my understanding, Webb wanted Zimmer to begin with, but he was busy doing TDKR. No way was he going to abandon that to do TASM. So Webb finally got him to do TASM2

Zimmer was asked to do the first film, you want it or not…

Don’t try to bend reality to fit into your point of view. You don’t like the score, or Zimmer. Unfortunately, you’re not able to express yourself or any opinion with anything that resembles reason, tact, or rational thought. So from the beginning, nothing you say has any kind of validity at all.

Well here in Europe Zimmers score got panned left right and center….. especially the shite Electro music …. don???t know about the USA…….
Never would I try to bend reality …. my reason for not liking Zimmer makes sense to me…. his shite is nothing but meandering drones of long passages of nothing …. when a so called composer is on a mission to write music or meandering noise with as little notes as possible it says alot to me about his attitude towards films….. he doesn???t write to picture…. he writes to what he thinks his fanboys will think it???s epic…. it is noteworthy to note that Zimmer seems to be attaching himself to directors that either have no clue about movie music or just don???t like music in film…..eq Nolan ….. Snyder ….. but it doesn???t really matter….. does it because Zimmer could shite on a stick and his fanboys would lap it up ……
I hope I expressed myself more clearly……

oh and one more thing….. there???s some seriously talented composers out there who can???t get work because this Zimmer dude is refusing to allow these artists to shine through instead forcing his clones to copy and paste his style onto others…. ya see he???s nothing more than a McDonalds…. a low end franchise

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This completely contradicts every article I’ve read about TASM1/2 Horner-Webb-Zimmer debocle. To my understanding, Webb wanted Zimmer to begin with, but he was busy doing TDKR. No way was he going to abandon that to do TASM. So Webb finally got him to do TASM2

Nope this is not true…. Jablonsky set the record straight…. he was asked first and recommended Zimmer….. unless you call Jablonsky a liar

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Yeah and Steve McQueen says in every interviews he called Hans to hire him on 12 Years A Slave (Zimmer says it as well), but it’s not true… 😉

Zimmer was asked to do the first film, you want it or not…

That is true…. also McQueen temps his film with Zimmer music…… I never said McQueen didn???t want Zimmer…..

I’m in Europe, I read nothing, could you enlight me and show me some articles & stuff ?

You seem to be a "touchy bunch", saying nothing in every of your sentences, never giving any example to support anything you say. And your theories about HZ are just plain stupid. You don’t like it, fine, why are you in this thread anyway, to prove everyone that the Neanderthal species didn’t die ?

When I first was presented to this soundtrack, I was quite surprised that Hans Zimmer would be the composer of the second installment of this franchise, then I remembered he’s been scoring lots of super movie hero’s movies lately. Curious about what sort of approach he would be doing in terms of the score, I gave it a listen. The results were sort of a mixed bag to say at least.

One of the first tracks, There He Is starts off with a fast paced one-note rhythm section, that integrates acoustic guitar, strings, step sequencers, pads and some woodwinds sections. I really liked it, it’s very reminiscent from the works of Philip Glass & Steve Reich and the sequenced bass notes add alot to the adrenaline that is supposed to be this movie. Same can be said from Special Project & I Need To Know (those guitar strums get me every time).

Actually I liked the first so much, that I would thought that was Spider-Man’s Theme. So when I heard I’m Spider-Man I got sort of disappointed. Sure, I mean, Hans would want to come with his own approach on superhero themes, but this one with the Man Of Steel themes are quite forgettable and lacks any sort of progression, they just get louder and louder. Like, if I didn’t knew this was from Spider-Man, I could easily assume that this was from any other superhero than just him. Just a brass with trumpet section as lead that can’t seem to go any further.

Then there’s the famous Electro Suite, that seems to be one of the most polarizing aspects I’ve heard from this movie, particularly the whispering vocals and dubstep sections. I’m usually not quite fond of dubstep, but I like it when it’s merged so well with other musical elements without being "FULL DUBSTEP SHOVED IN YO FACE". The beginning starts in with some woodwind sections, that makes me think of Max’s character sort of goofy, funny, and I honestly couldn’t hear it with a straight face, cause the woodwinds in here sound so dry and stiff that I almost tend to believe they’re from virtual instrument libraries (which I wouldn’t doubt it, coming from Hans). Vocals make their entrance with a kick & guitar, and yet, the seriousness that tries to portray this piece on Max’s transition to Electro doesn’t seem to convince me. The choir enters sort of screaming "Electro!", but I couldn’t manage to hear it clear due to the amount of distortion combined with the soundscape and brass combined. I think that’s one of the aspects that tends to bother me in Hans louder pieces, I can’t appreciate the elements that compounds the piece cause it’s so loud in some sections, it overwhelms the rest of the instruments or because it’s not mixed so well. And then ending with a full on dubstep. Yeah didn’t very much liked this piece at all.

And then there’s my favorite suite from all the tracks, Harry’s Suite, the electric solo violin sections combined with some pads and strings overall makes this piece such a delight to hear. It’s calm and grows sharp, very nice callback from TDK trilogy. Loved it.

As for the rest of the tracks (composed from Zimmer), can’t say very much about it except for Cold War that suits nice for that fighting scene between Spider-Man & Electro.

In the end, if I were to say if this is Hans best work on 2014, I’d would have to disagree, however, it’s not entirely bad but it doesn’t stand out as his best this year.

That’s all I’d have to say, sorry for some grammar mistakes in advance.

oh and one more thing….. there???s some seriously talented composers out there who can???t get work because this Zimmer dude is refusing to allow these artists to shine through instead forcing his clones to copy and paste his style onto others…. ya see he???s nothing more than a McDonalds…. a low end franchise

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Nope this is not true…. Jablonsky set the record straight…. he was asked first and recommended Zimmer….. unless you call Jablonsky a liar

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That is true…. also McQueen temps his film with Zimmer music…… I never said McQueen didn???t want Zimmer…..

The thing is… you’re the one spewing "fanboy" self righteous hyperbole. Rants and raves that have no real basis in fact or rational views, just " he’s shite". That is the depth of your reasoning. And you don’t realize that you sabotage everything you say by your hysterics.

Nothing you say has any merit.

That being said…this is like arguing with a circus chimp. Go on as you will, but really nothing can be gained here and it derails the thread.

Nothing you say has any merit.

Of course not… Zimmer fanboys see no Rhyme nor reason 😉

Look, when it comes down to the barest of bare bones, the arguments on here have gone beyond simple dislike for Zimmer and straight into provoking those who like this score.

My SWAG, silly wild ass guess, on this falls to one of the oldest truths in entertainment and while I hate repeating myself it does bear mentioning: if it ain’t on the page, it ain’t on the stage. Marvel is comprised to writers while the folks at Sony, like most Americans, stopped reading the moment they left college. And if you don’t read, you don’t and won’t know how to write. Or recognize good or bad writing when you read it.

I think Sony counted on the on screen chemistry between Garfield and Stone to wallpaper over any cracks in the script. Look at the scene between Gwen and Peter when she was applying to Oxford. If the dialogue was actually written that way then the writer needs to be shot. Out of a cannon. Into space. It came across as totally ad libbed and horribly ad libbed at that. (And yes, I understand that is the way many people speak. But we don’t go to the movies or read books to experience reality. We read and watch them to experience a version of reality, one where people speak in a cogent, clear and concise manner and at the hands of a talented writer like a Goldman, Bracket, Hammett, Chandler, Townsend or Mamet, we get dialogue that is entertaining and memorable.)

Let’s not twist anything here.

Horner had no comment on the nature of Hans and Co’s score. He didn’t say anything about it beyond that Sony spent all that money the music which didn’t help the movie – didn’t help because Sony didn’t have the hit movie on their hands that they expected.

Re-read the quote again. Nothing is mentioned about Horner’s thoughts on the music, just the film itself.

As for Webb:

This completely contradicts every article I’ve read about TASM1/2 Horner-Webb-Zimmer debocle. To my understanding, Webb wanted Zimmer to begin with, but he was busy doing TDKR. No way was he going to abandon that to do TASM. So Webb finally got him to do TASM2

Who was it who said Webb wanted Zimmer to begin with?

I mean specifically, who was that? I see that mentioned (only here, nowhere else), but never anything about where that claim came from.

I ask because everything Horner has said from the get-go was that he only wanted to work with Webb, not score a big superhero movie. They were friends and that was their chance to work together, since Webb had only one film under his belt before that – "500 Days Of Summer". Horner said over and over that basically Sony execs got in their way. Webb wanted to tell a good story, Sony wanted a big blockbuster and story be dammed. Prior to the film’s release there was a LOT of talk about Sony execs not liking the movie, and what happened next? The whole "untold origin" and Peter’s background, all of that, ended up in Spider-Man 2 instead. Sony had much more control over things for the sequel and it bit them in the ass. Sony wanted the biggest thing, which musically of course is Zimmer and Co. Hence the massive album push and the chance to say "hey, we have Pharrell on this movie!" Not to mention how much bigger and louder and crazier the sequel is to the first film.

oh and one more thing….. there???s some seriously talented composers out there who can???t get work because this Zimmer dude is refusing to allow these artists to shine through instead forcing his clones to copy and paste his style onto others…. ya see he???s nothing more than a McDonalds…. a low end franchise

Nope this is not true…. Jablonsky set the record straight…. he was asked first and recommended Zimmer….. unless you call Jablonsky a liar

That is true…. also McQueen temps his film with Zimmer music…… I never said McQueen didn???t want Zimmer…..

Wow, the "Let’s hate the emotional Zimmer fanboys" fanboy is getting quite emotional. 114 full stops in one post. Seriously?

Your repetitive "Zimmer is sh*t" arguments really aren’t doing it for me. It is very clear that you have not listened to any proper amount of Zimmer (at least not with your ears open), so to go insulting him and his work to such lengths, and basically insulting those of us here who like him, is pretty childish. You are getting very worked up, and it’s getting very annoying, as you don’t appear to have anything else to say, or anything to support your wild claims.

This thread was for members here to discuss Zimmer’s ASM2 in a civilised way. Not with meaningless, unsupported statements and rants.

Thank you to everyone who has been civilised, and has shared their opinions in a coherent way. Negative opinions are perfectly welcome here (read my opening post), but only those with at least some intelligence.

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Greetings, well I don’t usually post alot on these threads, but when I read that there was a TASM 2 Score thread, I really wanted to throw my two cents about it. First, I would like to make clear that I still haven’t watched the movie, but I’ve seen some scenes of it, those being mostly from Electro’s, so please forgive me on reviewing the tracks with some lack of context whatsoever.

When I first was presented to this soundtrack, I was quite surprised that Hans Zimmer would be the composer of the second installment of this franchise, then I remembered he’s been scoring lots of super movie hero’s movies lately. Curious about what sort of approach he would be doing in terms of the score, I gave it a listen. The results were sort of a mixed bag to say at least.

One of the first tracks, There He Is starts off with a fast paced one-note rhythm section, that integrates acoustic guitar, strings, step sequencers, pads and some woodwinds sections. I really liked it, it’s very reminiscent from the works of Philip Glass & Steve Reich and the sequenced bass notes add alot to the adrenaline that is supposed to be this movie. Same can be said from Special Project & I Need To Know (those guitar strums get me every time).

Actually I liked the first so much, that I would thought that was Spider-Man’s Theme. So when I heard I’m Spider-Man I got sort of disappointed. Sure, I mean, Hans would want to come with his own approach on superhero themes, but this one with the Man Of Steel themes are quite forgettable and lacks any sort of progression, they just get louder and louder. Like, if I didn’t knew this was from Spider-Man, I could easily assume that this was from any other superhero than just him. Just a brass with trumpet section as lead that can’t seem to go any further.

Then there’s the famous Electro Suite, that seems to be one of the most polarizing aspects I’ve heard from this movie, particularly the whispering vocals and dubstep sections. I’m usually not quite fond of dubstep, but I like it when it’s merged so well with other musical elements without being "FULL DUBSTEP SHOVED IN YO FACE". The beginning starts in with some woodwind sections, that makes me think of Max’s character sort of goofy, funny, and I honestly couldn’t hear it with a straight face, cause the woodwinds in here sound so dry and stiff that I almost tend to believe they’re from virtual instrument libraries (which I wouldn’t doubt it, coming from Hans). Vocals make their entrance with a kick & guitar, and yet, the seriousness that tries to portray this piece on Max’s transition to Electro doesn’t seem to convince me. The choir enters sort of screaming "Electro!", but I couldn’t manage to hear it clear due to the amount of distortion combined with the soundscape and brass combined. I think that’s one of the aspects that tends to bother me in Hans louder pieces, I can’t appreciate the elements that compounds the piece cause it’s so loud in some sections, it overwhelms the rest of the instruments or because it’s not mixed so well. And then ending with a full on dubstep. Yeah didn’t very much liked this piece at all.

And then there’s my favorite suite from all the tracks, Harry’s Suite, the electric solo violin sections combined with some pads and strings overall makes this piece such a delight to hear. It’s calm and grows sharp, very nice callback from TDK trilogy. Loved it.

As for the rest of the tracks (composed from Zimmer), can’t say very much about it except for Cold War that suits nice for that fighting scene between Spider-Man & Electro.

In the end, if I were to say if this is Hans best work on 2014, I’d would have to disagree, however, it’s not entirely bad but it doesn’t stand out as his best this year.

That’s all I’d have to say, sorry for some grammar mistakes in advance.

Thanks for your insightful comments. I agree with you on a lot of your points. I’d also highly recommend seeing the film!

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Also, just thought I’d say again:

Yes, I am mad at this point.

Thank you for that, Mr abryus. May that be the end of the hate and the arguments. From now on, let’s get back to the topic.

I’ve just listened to You’re That Spider Guy for the millionth time. It never ceases to bring a huge smile to my face. Wow, is that a powerful piece of writing!! So much emotion, yet so simple.

I think I’ve finished my chronological ordering of the OST, but I’ll check it one more time tomorrow before posting the track list. "Sum Total" is clearly the scene when Harry becomes Goblin, but it’s not the film version…

And the beginning of the cue always brings a lump into my throat. 😉

But I have to say…

That picture is a textbook illustration of what the Germans call backpfeifengesicht.

Translated literally: "a face that needs a fist".

I heard the Horner’s score in full long before I ever watched TASM1 and absolutely LOVED it. The piano performances, a memorable theme, great orchestrations, etc. And then I heard that Hans Zimmer was doing the score, and heard the theme from the website. Up until that point, I was excited.

Don’t get me wrong, I think Hans has great ideas sometimes. The Spidey theme? Not one of my favorites. Electro? Interesting take for sure.

Then I heard the score in order in the movie…. It was one of the aspects I enjoyed. Except on album, not so much. I’m kinda hoping for the complete so that I can hear what Zimmer and Co. did as it’s intended to.

Yeah I noticed that too.

What I’m guessing is an insert recorded later on or possibly even just copy/pasted from another cue. Same with the film version of "My Enemy". There seems to be an insert for the Electro/Spidey fight that occurs before the end of the scene.

By the way, I only skimmed through the comments when I saw there wasn???t an actual link for the score, so if someone already said what I have then disregard my statements.

I’m also saying this as someone who enjoyed the score more or less (even though it took a while to grow on me, and I’m still not sure I like the Electro cues).

Don’t up and leave and for fuck sake, rocklegend even likes the posts of people pointing out his idiocy. Can’t you at least respond with clear points?

Anyhow. I watched the film again on blu-ray yesterday paid more attention to the score. I like the development and mischievous quality to Electro even though I thought he was a terrible character. I still didn’t find any of the Gwen and Peter material interesting and it made me wish Horner had stuck around. Until the dubstep.

The Electro material is probably the only thread through the film along with Harry’s theme which doesn’t really announce itself too much, it’s kind of restrained in the film.

I liked the film upon it’s initial viewing but now I’m seriously thinking that the film would have worked better with a more connected score which I had hoped would build off the material of the first film. Actually I’m going to listen to Horner’s score right now to calm me down a bit.

Translated literally: "a face that needs a fist".[/QUOTE]

Actually, the literal translation is "cheek whistling face." Back is cheek, pfeifen is whistling and gesicht is, of course, face. But the explanation of the expression is correct: a face that needs a smack.

Germans do love their compound words. Probably because German has half as many words as English does.

Arrogance, Germans do that rather well also.

Don’t up and leave and for fuck sake, rocklegend even likes the posts of people pointing out his idiocy. Can’t you at least respond with clear points?

Anyhow. I watched the film again on blu-ray yesterday paid more attention to the score. I like the development and mischievous quality to Electro even though I thought he was a terrible character. I still didn’t find any of the Gwen and Peter material interesting and it made me wish Horner had stuck around. Until the dubstep.

The Electro material is probably the only thread through the film along with Harry’s theme which doesn’t really announce itself too much, it’s kind of restrained in the film.

I liked the film upon it’s initial viewing but now I’m seriously thinking that the film would have worked better with a more connected score which I had hoped would build off the material of the first film. Actually I’m going to listen to Horner’s score right now to calm me down a bit.

What would you like me to expand upon….. the fact that I Like Zimmer as a guy, met him, worked at RCP for 3 years but I hate his factory of clones and his meandering soundscapes and loud obnoxious noise …. turning Orchestra???s into synth samples that sound like shite…. his scores constantly written in D Major….. christ does he even know another key….. or the fact that Zimmer is unable change because he doesn???t have the skills to….Zimmer is nothing more than a gimmick,a fad,has not written anything worth while…. he???s propped up by Rabid Fanboys who know no better 😉 I???m no longer into this thread and feel bad that I probably derailed it… There???s so many better composers out there such as Beltrami, Desplat, Giacchino ….. Zimmer reminds me everything that is wrong with modern cinema and music…. no creativity

You like Zimmer as a guy? My word, it doesn’t sound like it:

I hate his factory of clones and his meandering soundscapes and loud obnoxious noise …. turning Orchestra???s into synth samples that sound like shite…. his scores constantly written in D Major….. christ does he even know another key….. or the fact that Zimmer is unable change because he doesn???t have the skills to….Zimmer is nothing more than a gimmick,a fad,has not written anything worth while….

That’s not how I talk about people I like.

You worked at RCP for three years? Not sure I believe you. If you had, I would’ve thought you’d have something more intelligent to say than "Zimmer is sh*t."

But even if you did, you clearly have nothing intelligible to contribute to this discussion. You have derailed it into a "love/hate Zimmer" debate, and I’m glad you’re no longer "into" it.

That’s not how I talk about people I like.

You worked at RCP for three years? Not sure I believe you. If you had, I would’ve thought you’d have something more intelligent to say than "Zimmer is sh*t."

But even if you did, you clearly have nothing intelligible to contribute to this discussion. You have derailed it into a "love/hate Zimmer" debate, and I’m glad you’re no longer "into" it.

Yeah I worked as a music editor for 3 years 1999-2002…..
Whether you believe me or not it doesn???t really bother me……… and don???t put words in my mouth… I???m pretty sure I said Zimmer???s music is shite…. not the man himself

So you worked at RCP. Fine.

I didn’t put words in your mouth. In that context, "Zimmer" means "Music by Zimmer". For example, I can say "I love Zimmer" but that doesn’t mean I actually love the guy! I’m sure he’s a lovable guy, but in that context Zimmer refers to the music, not the man.

And you may not have called Zimmer himself sh*t, but you did say that he is a gimmick and a fad, and you clearly weren’t referring to his music.

That Zimmer is shit !!

Don’t up and leave and for fuck sake, rocklegend even likes the posts of people pointing out his idiocy. Can’t you at least respond with clear points?

Anyhow. I watched the film again on blu-ray yesterday paid more attention to the score. I like the development and mischievous quality to Electro even though I thought he was a terrible character. I still didn’t find any of the Gwen and Peter material interesting and it made me wish Horner had stuck around. Until the dubstep.

The Electro material is probably the only thread through the film along with Harry’s theme which doesn’t really announce itself too much, it’s kind of restrained in the film.

I liked the film upon it’s initial viewing but now I’m seriously thinking that the film would have worked better with a more connected score which I had hoped would build off the material of the first film. Actually I’m going to listen to Horner’s score right now to calm me down a bit.

Thanks for sharing your views. I have to say, I think Zimmer’s material for Peter and Gwen is beautiful. But I absolutely love Horner’s score just as much. I was disappointed when I originally found out he wasn’t scoring the sequel, but I’m very happy with what Zimmer & Co. came up with, even though it’s so different!

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That Zimmer is shit !!

Yes, I think that is what he is trying to prove. But that’s not what this thread is about.

Once again, apologies for posting this thread in the wrong forum. If someone knows how to move it to the correct forum, that would be great. 🙂

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Yes, I think that is what he is trying to prove. But that’s not what this thread is about.

Yeah I agree …. the music for Peter and Gwen is beautiful…. the chords and melody was written by Pharall Williams …. Zimmer just added the instrumentation ….

Horners score elevated TASM 1 ….. It was the first time since walking out of the cinema in 5-10yrs where I had the theme stuck in my head for weeks …… and I loved that…… music and images blended together

I do agree that Zimmer is a gimmick and a Fad…… his music will not be remembered in 20yrs time yet music written by Williams… Goldsmith,John Barry and others that I have not mentioned will live on for decades to come….. Just my opinion….. 😉

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OK, and here we have another one… Much sarcasm, very irony. Second question: why are you trying prove it to people, who like his music anyways?

Mr. rocklegend, taking the fact that you’ve been involved in music business for many years I guess that you are a grown man, probably a successful music editor or something… So why the hell you spend your time posting "Zimmer is shit" stuff on the forum, like some sort of angry teenager, pissed off and just trying to get others pissed?

I???ll reiterate …… Zimmer???s music is shite…. it doesn???t serve the film imo…. it???s nothing more that soundscapes which is elevated to god like status by Fanboys 😉

You could try contacting a mod about it; on the other hand, the thread seems to be doing really well here, and I’m not bothered that it’s in the wrong section. Your choice, I suppose.

I actually don’t really like Pharrell’s song with that chord progression. It doesn’t really do anything for me. What Zimmer did with it, however, was pure magic. So Pharrell isn’t really responsible for the beautiful cues with Peter and Gwen. He may have thought up the chord progression, but that is just the first step to a beautiful piece of music.

I do agree that Zimmer is a gimmick and a Fad…… his music will not be remembered in 20yrs time yet music written by Williams… Goldsmith,John Barry and others that I have not mentioned will live on for decades to come….. Just my opinion….. 😉

You agree with yourself. I did not say that Zimmer is a gimmick and a fad – I was quoting you. And we know it’s your opinion. We know all too well.

I???ll reiterate …… Zimmer???s music is shite…. it doesn???t serve the film imo…. it???s nothing more that soundscapes which is elevated to god like status by Fanboys 😉

Oh, shut up. I really am tired of hearing the same thing from you over and over again. I thought you were done with this thread anyway??

Just listen to this and then tell me that Zimmer’s music doesn’t serve the film it’s written for. Then tell me that Zimmer’s music is nothing more than "sh*t soundscapes".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Lm4ue3Fbc

Listen to the whole track with an open mind – it’s only 3 minutes long.

And it seems clear to me that his outsized influence on the field has been baleful. History will probably not thank us for producing him.

Indeed so… who knows what’s around the corner? This place is full of surprises.

I think the cues I want most are the two opening cues.

"There He Is" is in the end credits somewhere, isn’t it? Anybody know why it’s called "There He Is" on the OST? Is it a quote from the film? I can’t think what.

Seriously? How about the film mix of The Rest of My Life?

That’s definitely my favorite cue… I was pretty annoyed when it was altered for the soundtrack.

It’s amazing how much of a difference vocals can have on just 1 cue, isn’t it? For MoS, the vocals were removed from the film mix of Flight and there’s added strings. For TASM2, there’s vocals added and that seems to be the No Time for Caution of the score.

Too bad. 🙁

And they’ve seen better on TV or cable. GoT, Hannibal, Fargo, True Detective, Walking Dead, Penny Dreadful, etc … People watch these and other programs and they get something out of them, something that lasts after they’ve turned off the TV. And if its the superhero genre, look at what preceded TASM2: Captain America: The Winter Soldier. That’s how you do superheroes. (That and of course, GoTG.) CA:TWS had something to say, it was more than just guys in long underwear beating the crap out of one another. TASM2 said nothing except it was a naked money grab and audiences got that. GoTG was the only movie in 2014, so far, to crack $300 million. That was due to repeat business which I doubt TASM2 enjoyed.

I would not be surprised if TASM3 never hits the screen because right now there’s little to no excitement for another installment.

I feel the same way about TASM. I don’t like Horner’s score to begin with (and I love Horner), but that’s not what made me hate the film so much. I don’t know what it is about the film, I just hated it. I think it’s probably the combination of cheesy effects, Spidey’s awful costume, the fact that it was a reboot after only 5 years (4 if you count from when they started filming), and Horner’s score. I think that sums it up. I never had any interest in it whatsoever to begin with, I only saw it so I could see TASM2 which I liked way better.

It’s amazing how much of a difference vocals can have on just 1 cue, isn’t it? … For TASM2, there’s vocals added…

I just want to add that personally I think that the whole structure of the film version is much more delicate. Not just vocals, but everything – the way strings start to play when Peter realises that this is it… I see a lot that people point out only the vocals, but would anyone agree with me that it’s not the only thing nice about this cue? 🙂

I think I need to bring myself to re-watch that scene just to listen to the film version! It is such an emotionally powerful scene and Garfield’s acting is so superb. The score just seeps through subconsciously, which is an indication of just how good the music actually is – it adds so much to the scene. But I just have to bring myself to re-watch it. Time for the tissue box to come out again. *Takes deep breath*

After all this time and even after all this talk, I still have no desire to watch it a second time. It was big, it was very loud, and it was at times fun, but there’s nothing there that makes me think of revisiting it.

The first film…it was that Horner was scoring it (after knowing he had absolutely no interest in these kinds of movies) that made me sit up and notice. Prior to that I was totally against the idea of the film. Leaving that out for a moment, I thought the film was pointless (as a reboot) but still enjoyable. It had something to say about this guy Parker, and even though some things were clearly taken out (the origin / father subplot) I liked that it was down-to-earth (for the most part) and it’s a film I’ve never had trouble revisiting. I bought it on Blu-ray (3D, even though the 3D itself was so subtle it might as well have been shot in 2D) without seeing the film theatrically and never regretted that. I went in only giving a crap because of the score, which I heard obviously long before I saw the film (film came out on Blu-ray on November, I heard the score in July) but ended up staying because I actually enjoyed the film itself.

That’s why I wanted to see the sequel, regardless of whether Horner was involved (though let down that he wasn’t) because I wanted to see this version of the story continue.

After all this time and even after all this talk, I still have no desire to watch it a second time. It was big, it was very loud, and it was at times fun, but there’s nothing there that makes me think of revisiting it.

The first film…it was that Horner was scoring it (after knowing he had absolutely no interest in these kinds of movies) that made me sit up and notice. Prior to that I was totally against the idea of the film. Leaving that out for a moment, I thought the film was pointless (as a reboot) but still enjoyable. It had something to say about this guy Parker, and even though some things were clearly taken out (the origin / father subplot) I liked that it was down-to-earth (for the most part) and it’s a film I’ve never had trouble revisiting. I bought it on Blu-ray (3D, even though the 3D itself was so subtle it might as well have been shot in 2D) without seeing the film theatrically and never regretted that. I went in only giving a crap because of the score, which I heard obviously long before I saw the film (film came out on Blu-ray on November, I heard the score in July) but ended up staying because I actually enjoyed the film itself.

That’s why I wanted to see the sequel, regardless of whether Horner was involved (though let down that he wasn’t) because I wanted to see this version of the story continue.

The question is: would you be interested in seeing TASM 3? Also, who would you like to see score it?

Personally, I’d go and see TASM 3 on principle because I enjoyed the first two so much. As to the composer… I’m torn between Horner and Zimmer. Maybe a joint effort?! I’m sure those two could work magic together!

Personally, I’d go and see TASM 3 on principle because I enjoyed the first two so much. As to the composer… I’m torn between Horner and Zimmer. Maybe a joint effort?! I’m sure those two could work magic together!

From what I’ve heard about how Sony wants to do some "Sinister Six" movie and after all their meddling, that more than anything else has me torn on wanting to see a third film.

The Horner Spider-Man theme is easily my favorite element of either score, and Zimmer’s take on similar music (such as the quieter piano-based cues) was so similar Horner’s could have been just re-arranged and I personally would’ve had a perfect sequel score, rather than a sort-of alternate take on things. That’s what really bugged me about the sequel score. Those elements were so closely related they didn’t have to abandon what Horner established. The remaining elements (Electro being the biggest) could’ve been kept in and it all would have been fine. But that’s my preference. I really just wanted to hear Horner’s theme again.

For a third film, really after everything I don’t care who scores it. I have a complete Horner Spider-Man score in flawless lossless quality, customized just the way I want it, the Zimmer score is good on its own but it would be nice to get a complete version of that as well. We have these scores and no third film can take away from them. Maybe add to them, who knows? I just know I’m not as eager to see whatever they do next given everything. Especially if Spider-Man looks like this in three more years:

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JHFan, is it true that Horner didn’t like to score TASM, so he was actually happy to never return? Because I’ve seen so many rumours regarding the change of composers that I just don’t know what’s true and what’s not. Personally, I like the continuity, so I don’t find it very exciting when the composer is changed in any series. For TASM3 I would be glad to hear both Zimmer and Horner equally.

The only reason Horner did not like working on the film was because there were all those producers and studio people all trying to have their say on what the score should be, when really it was supposed to be (traditionally) what the director wanted the score to be. Horner signed on for Webb, Peter Parker and Gwen Stacy, not 8 other people who all wanted to have their say at once. Also he didn’t like that they were overriding Marc Webb (director) because they had their own opinions on what the film itself should be.

People says that DC and Nolan seems to be ashamed of doing superhero films, but it’s actually Sony who seems to be afraid of doing Spider-Man. Same goes with Fox and their terrible adaptations from the past 15 years (it’s a miracle that books like The Maze Runner and The Fault In Our Stars).

Personally, I’d go and see TASM 3 on principle because I enjoyed the first two so much. As to the composer… I’m torn between Horner and Zimmer. Maybe a joint effort?! I’m sure those two could work magic together!

I loved Raimi 3 Spidey Films…. even the third…. I went and Saw TASM 1 and 2 in the cinema….. both films were dreadful imo….. Webbs movies has Sony???s hands all over them…. the editing and story is so jarring you know it wasn???t the directors vision…. Sony went chasing the billion dollars and gor slapped instead…. TASM 2 from what I understand is the lowest grossing of all Spider-Man films… I personally don???t think there will be a third…. I have heard from a very good source that Sony are planning on rebooting Spider-Man for a third time…. please god help us

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Man… I knew there had to be quite a story behind all that. Thanks so much for the info. 🙂 And now I see – it really sucks that people who don’t really CREATE art, but just trying to SELL it have that much influence (on directors, composers, etc…)

From I understand also it was the movie that put Horner into semi-retirement …. he didn???t like Sony dictating the music also …..

No, Horner has been busy writing his double concerto "Pas de Deux", which premiered in mid-November. It will be released on CD some time around May.

Horner has soured on scoring bigger movies because

A) he’s completely over action music scoring. It does nothing for him anymore at all. That’s why he often says the big action stuff "takes care of itself". Lizard fighting Spider-Man? Takes care of itself. It’s big and impressive and does its job as action scenes are supposed to and same for the music. The occasionally awkward nature of Gwen and Peter’s flirtation? That’s where he can put some heart into it. That’s what he goes for.

B) it’s the state of the industry now that there are so many people involved that have nothing to do with the filmmaker’s intentions – all those studio people and whatnot. What happened on Spider-Man happens all the time now. It’s the new normal. It was not a unique situation by any means.

C) He prefers to do movies with newer directors, or other people he just has a good personal relationship with.

I can see why you all want the film version of "The Rest of My Life" – it is beautiful! And as abryus said, it’s not just the vocals, but the strings as well.

I was listening to the OST in my chronological order again today, and I think it’s a similar situation with "Look At Me" as with "Sum Total" – the ending of both tracks is a different arrangement in the film.

It seems like Horner signed on to score The Amazing Spider-Man since he liked Webb, the director. But when he learned that the producers were meddling with ASM2 too much, and Webb became less involved, he said he backed out of the sequel because it looked like it was going to be terrible.

I have to agree with him. ASM2 feels like it was written by three or four different people; that’s why you have the inexplicable hidden train base, the unnecessary opening with Peter’s parents, etc. I guess Horner was worried that his score would end up being muddied like the film was, what with all the different producers trying to make the film into what each individual wanted it to be.

Beat ya to it a few pages back:

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/amazing-spider-man-2-score-discussion-thread-182925/4.html#post2834791

CBM just got their little extract from the full interview I linked, only since I have the original unedited version, that’s what I quoted in full regarding the film.

Maybe for the Razzies with Zimmer winning for Worst Score 😉

There He Is (Cue most similar to opening cue)
I???m Spider-Man (Spidey Logo / Flying)
Cold War (Plutonium Truck Chase Pt.1)
No Place Like Home (Gwen???s Speech/Plutonium Truck Chase Pt. 2)
Harry’s Suite (Material most similar to the cue when Harry sees Norman)
Look At Me (Max stays behind/Becoming Electro)
You Need Me (Peter and Harry meet)
Song For Zula (Date Pt.1)
I Chose You (Date Pt.2 [Ice Cream])
My Enemy (Times Square Battle)
You???re My Boy (Aunt May tells Peter)
I???m Moving To England (Last Interview at Oxford)
Special Project (Harry discovers Oscorp’s secrets)
I Need To Know (Roosevelt Station)
Sum Total (Harry Transformation)
We???re Best Friends (Peter and Gwen on the Bridge)
So Much Anger (Electro at the Power Grid)
Still Crazy (Electro Showdown Pt.1)
I???m Electro (Electrocuting Spider-Man [Ends when Gwen hits Electro with the Police car])
I???m Goblin (Harry takes Gwen / Clocktower Showdown)
Let Her Go (Gwen Falls)
The Rest of My Life (Gwen’s Death/Graveside Montage)
Ground Rules (Aunt May and the Box)
You???re That Spider Guy (Gwen???s Speech / Rhino Showdown)
It???s On Again (End Credits)
Honest (End Credits)

I haven’t included "The Electro Suite", as it’s not a specific cue and as far as I can make out it’s just more of the same Electro material rehashed into a suite. Nothing new. What do you guys think about including "Harry’s Suite"? It was a difficult choice, as it’s not a specific cue, and threatens to upset the flow of the story. But it’s the closest we’ve got to that particular cue.

Also, in an identical situation to "Till Kingdom Come" from TASM, "Gone, Gone, Gone" by Phillip Phillips was annoyingly not included on the ASM2 OST. It should be inserted between "My Enemy" and "You’re My Boy".

Let me know what you think. Unless all you have to say is "Zimmer is sh*t."

There He Is (Cue most similar to opening cue)
I’m Spider-Man (Spidey Logo / Flying)
Cold War (Plutonium Truck Chase Pt.1)
No Place Like Home (Gwen’s Speech/Plutonium Truck Chase Pt. 2)
Harry’s Suite (Material most similar to the cue when Harry sees Norman)
Look At Me (Max stays behind/Becoming Electro)
You Need Me (Peter and Harry meet)
Song For Zula (Date Pt.1)
I Chose You (Date Pt.2 [Ice Cream])
My Enemy (Times Square Battle)
You’re My Boy (Aunt May tells Peter)
I’m Moving To England (Last Interview at Oxford)
Special Project (Harry discovers Oscorp’s secrets)
I Need To Know (Roosevelt Station)
Sum Total (Harry Transformation)
We’re Best Friends (Peter and Gwen on the Bridge)
So Much Anger (Electro at the Power Grid)
Still Crazy (Electro Showdown Pt.1)
I’m Electro (Electrocuting Spider-Man [Ends when Gwen hits Electro with the Police car])
I’m Goblin (Harry takes Gwen / Clocktower Showdown)
Let Her Go (Gwen Falls)
The Rest of My Life (Gwen’s Death/Graveside Montage)
Ground Rules (Aunt May and the Box)
You’re That Spider Guy (Gwen’s Speech / Rhino Showdown)
It’s On Again (End Credits)
Honest (End Credits)

I haven’t included "The Electro Suite", as it’s not a specific cue and as far as I can make out it’s just more of the same Electro material rehashed into a suite. Nothing new. What do you guys think about including "Harry’s Suite"? It was a difficult choice, as it’s not a specific cue, and threatens to upset the flow of the story. But it’s the closest we’ve got to that particular cue.

Also, in an identical situation to "Till Kingdom Come" from TASM, "Gone, Gone, Gone" by Phillip Phillips was annoyingly not included on the ASM2 OST. It should be inserted between "My Enemy" and "You’re My Boy".

Let me know what you think. Unless all you have to say is "Zimmer is sh*t."

Is that much different than what I uploaded….. just curious

I have no idea. Post your tracklisting here and let’s compare it.

I didn???t add the songs… it just ruins that flow of the score

I didn???t add the songs… it just ruins that flow of the score

Your list has several errors…

"Ground Rules" doesn’t play at the graduation scene, like many people (including you) seem to think. It plays right at the end of the film between "The Rest of My Life" and "You’re That Spider Guy".

"So Much Anger" does not play after "You Need Me". It plays near the end of the film after "We’re Best Friends" when Electro shuts down the power grid and Spidey and Gwen magnetise Peter’s web shooters.

"I’m Moving to England" plays after "You’re My Boy", not before.

"Special Project" plays before "I Need to Know", not after.

"I Chose You" does not play in the middle of the final Electro fight. It plays before the Times Square battle, when Gwen tells Peter that she’s moving to England.

Not counting "Gone, Gone, Gone", the only song that fits in the score before the end credits is "Song For Zula", which I think goes wonderfully with the score. I also think "Gone, Gone, Gone" fits in very well with the score. It’s all about the story to me, and if that’s where the song is in the film, that’s where it should be on the soundtrack.

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By the way, as a unashamed hater of this score, you seem to be showing a lot of interest in it. Even going to the lengths of trying to arrange a chronological order for the OST… for a score you hate??

I watched a recent movie he did, "Into The Storm". A movie that is literally nothing but eye and ear candy…a great movie to show off your surround system basically. Yes I like movies like that from time to time when I’m bored and want something to just sit and relax in front of. Anyway, I could not tell you a thing about Tyler’s score other than it had a lot of drums in it. Beyond that I couldn’t identify it from any other Tyler score I’ve heard in a film (I’ve never listened to any of his scores apart from their films). The music was completely anonymous, as are so many scores I hear in movies now. Lots of notes, but no identifiable melodies. The only piece of music I can remember of his, really because it was so short and used so often, was the title theme to that 2011 Fox dinosaur show "Terra Nova".

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It doesn’t cost $250 million to reboot a comic.

That’s true. And to be honest I think you’ll find that the large proportion of people who watch the films have never read the comics. I certainly haven’t. A different Spider-Man movie franchise would just do my head in. Here’s what I’d like to see happen…

Sony sell the rights to Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios. Marvel then continue The Amazing Spider-Man franchise with Andrew Garfield, keeping Marc Webb in to direct ASM3. Then Marvel can incorporate Spidey into The Avengers if they can think of a way. If it’s too complicated, I’m really not that bothered if Peter Parker stays solo in the Amazing universe.

Sony sell the rights to Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios. Marvel then continue The Amazing Spider-Man franchise with Andrew Garfield, keeping Marc Webb in to direct ASM3. Then Marvel can incorporate Spidey into The Avengers if they can think of a way. If it’s too complicated, I’m really not that bothered if Peter Parker stays solo in the Amazing universe.

You’re right about people who have read the comics being a big part of the audience. We pretty much make up 9.99% of a movie going audience, even for comic book films.

As of right now, Sony will NEVER sell the rights back. That’s one of the few franchises they have that they can cling to before going bankrupt.

As of right now, Sony will NEVER sell the rights back. That’s one of the few franchises they have that they can cling to before going bankrupt.

Don’t you mean "haven’t read the comics"?

Yeah, but it would seem Sony made a rather big loss on ASM2. Apparently Marvel/Disney made more on Spider-Man merchandise than Sony did profits for the actual film.

Yeah, but it would seem Sony made a rather big loss on ASM2. Apparently Marvel/Disney made more on Spider-Man merchandise than Sony did profits for the actual film.

Yeah. Sorry. Meant to put that in there! 😛

You guys mentioned the comics – if there is one compliment I can give ASM2, it’s that it really seemed to evoke that feeling of the old comics. I’ve always thought of Spider-Man as being more of a romance comic (well, at least the older comics from the 70s and 80s), and the ASM films do a great job of putting Peter’s love life front and center before his super-power.

Venom Or Carnage Could Be Main Villain In SPIDER-MAN – SINISTER SIX Team-Up Film (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/news/?a=112303)

Venom Or Carnage Could Be Main Villain In SPIDER-MAN – SINISTER SIX Team-Up Film

More leaked emails from Sony have surfaced online and these provide details for their Spider-Man franchise, whether the Marvel deal happens or not. If it’s the latter, future films could include Ultimate Venom, Sinister Six and possibly Carnage.

The "Sony Hack" continues to produce tantalizing behind-the-scenes information regarding Sony’s Spider-Man franchise. The latest emails to leak online involve Spider-Man film producer Matt Tolmach, Sony Pictures Entertainment chief Amy Pascal and Columbia Pictures president of production Michael De Luca. In it, Pascal informs De Luca that Tolmach would like to introduce Venom into the Spider-Man franchise, but doesn’t think the character could support a film on his own. He would rather introduce Venom in the Sinister Six film. And that film will feature Spidey teaming up with the Sinister Six to take down an even bigger threat. Who could be more dangerous than the Sinister Six? Tolmach would like the main villain to be either Carnage or Venom. If it is the latter, Spider-Man will wear his black suit in the film. He’ll remove it when he can’t handle being teased about the look by members of the Sinister Six. I kid you not. And of course, whoever finds Spidey’s discarded suit will then become … VENOM!

By the way, kudos to Badass Digest for accurately reporting most of this information near the beginning of October, a week before this leaked email was produced.

In the follow up email, De Luca explained to Pascal all of the options their Spider-Man franchise had in front of them at that time. He brings up the previously-confirmed deal Marvel Studios offered Sony, which would allow Spider-Man to join the Marvel cinematic universe. To be more specific, Spider-Man would make a cameo in Captain America: Civil War. If the deal was agreed upon, De Luca reports that Marvel would introduce A BRAND NEW SPIDER-MAN. See you later, Andrew Garfield. De Luca seems gung-ho about the cameo. He thinks it could spark new interest in Spidey. Fans would look forward to Spidey’s next film without Sony having to make a Sinister Six film just to put fannies in the seats. Either way, De Luca would be happy with whatever direction Marvel president Kevin Feige chose for the Webhead.

That’s all based on the deal with Marvel actually happening, but as of right now we know it hasn’t, and De Luca addressed that grim possibility as well. Wisely, De Luca proposed another Spider-Man reboot, but this time, it won’t spend a lot of its time on Spidey’s origin or his parents like The Amazing Spider-Man films did. De Luca also thinks Venom, Carnage and Hobgoblin would be nice additions to a reboot. He especially likes Ultimate Venom because his suit isn’t formed from an alien symbiote. He’d like to explore the modern Spider-Man comic book stories written by Michael Bendis, Michael Strascynski and Brain K. Vaughn.

Now read this: MARVELOUS DA7E 75: The Spider-Man/Marvel Deal is Very Much Alive! ? Latino-Review.com (http://www.latino-review.com/news/marvelous-da7e-75-the-spider-manmarvel-deal-is-very-much-alive)

At the end of the above article the writer speculates on action Sony could take, and I’ve thought the same thing, to re-engergize interest in Spider-Man in one fell swoop or swell foop:

In January Joss Whedon is doing reshoots for AOU. Rumor has it will be for the post credit sequence and in that sequence will be the seeds for the Civil War storyline for the MCU. In particular: the audience might see Captain America’s version of the Avengers. (The Civil War results from the fallout of AOU and Tony and Steve’s parting of the ways on the future of the Avengers.)

My inner geek would love to see this: Cap’s Avengers, less cosmic, more street level: so the coda reveals his team – and mind you this is the product of my caffeine drenched, so-called-mind: Falcon, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Black Widow, Black Panther, Ant Man and swinging in at the coda’s end: Spider-Man.)

The audience would lose their collective minds and Spidey would be back on track.

We can dream.

P.S.

So much for Spidey at the end of AOU, apparently.

http://www.latino-review.com/news/marvel-wants-a-fresh-start-with-spider-man-without-andrew-garfield

We’ll have to wait until next year to learn what Spidey’s future holds. I say to Sony: give creative control back to Marvel and take a percentage of the box office, TV and merchandise. Better half a good loaf then the whole of a rapidly diminishing one.

BD. :smrt:

I’ve been thinking a lot about this score lately.
How I wish Zimmer released a 5.1 soundtrack release like he did with Inception.
But, I guess due to him mostly having worked with 100 people on this, the licences weren’t available to do so.

I’d have loved to hear Electro’s cues bounce around the speakers.
Ripping the movie is simple enough. But I think the movie is too riddled with sfx in all channels that we’d have to severely compromise and take it mostly as-is from the BD.

I’m still in the process of ripping the end credits, but I just don’t like the licensed music in it.
If it was all score, that’d be pure awesome.
But somehow feel they would use the lovey-dovey softcore cues more than the Electro cues.

Indeed so. I’m holding out for the sessions…

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BD. :smrt:

I’ve been thinking a lot about this score lately.
How I wish Zimmer released a 5.1 soundtrack release like he did with Inception.
But, I guess due to him mostly having worked with 100 people on this, the licences weren’t available to do so.

I’d have loved to hear Electro’s cues bounce around the speakers.
Ripping the movie is simple enough. But I think the movie is too riddled with sfx in all channels that we’d have to severely compromise and take it mostly as-is from the BD.

I’m still in the process of ripping the end credits, but I just don’t like the licensed music in it.
If it was all score, that’d be pure awesome.
But somehow feel they would use the lovey-dovey softcore cues more than the Electro cues.

The official Inception release was in 5.1??

Also, doesn’t the ASM2 end credits mashup cue contain "There He Is"?

"Itsy Bitsy Spider" is actually throughout most of Electro’s cues. Are you referring to the part at the power grid?

Not exactly.
The bonus features disc of the Inception Blu-ray had the album in 5.1 playing against a blank screen as one of the extras, minus a cue or two…don’t remember what was missing though. It was turned into a DTS album shared here.To say Zimmer did it is stretching it but whatever.

I wanna say it was missing A Half-Remembered Dream and Waiting for A Train, just like the FYC

The power grid scene, I believe.

The opening track on the OST album "A Half-Remembered Dream" + "Waiting For A Train" weren’t included on the 5.1 OST on the second OST of Inception. Probably due to licensing issues with whomever licensed Edith Piaf’s music didn’t agree with what Hans Zimmer was doing.
Or couldn’t agree due to legal reasons.
International reasons play a huge aspect in any sales.

Probably why we only see the France Metropolitan release of Silent Hilll (2006) mastered the best from France distribution company: "Metropolitan".

Not even demos of those two tracks.
Well, outside the complete score we’ve seen floating here.

TASP2 with 5.1 Zimmer would be awesome.
If it wasn’t the end credits.
I can do that. And do, do that.

I’ve never been able to hear "Itsy Bitsy Spider" in Electro’s theme. Only in the power grid scene. Where is it exactly?

It’s part of practically all of Electro’s cues. But it’s in the bass, usually beneath the four-note Electro guitar motif, so perhaps not so easily recognisable for most people. The first (and a very good) example on the OST (my chronologically ordered OST) is the end of "Look At Me" (the last 30 seconds when Max is electrocuted). Once you’ve picked it up, you’ll keep hearing it throughout the score (if you’re anything like me!). Another good example is the last 50 seconds of "My Enemy" (the end of the Times Square Battle). It’s got a slightly different rhythm, and the notes aren’t always in the exact correct order 100% of the time, but it’s "Itsy Bitsy Spider" nonetheless. See if you can pick it out. 🙂

Check out this interview with Marc Webb about the score.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q7C1ajvEcs

At about the 2:40 mark he talks about the origin of the "Itsy" motif, and uses the Times Square Battle scene as his example.

Read my post above and then listen again. 😉

the dubstep version of itsy bitsy spider x3 XD

x3?

Check out this interview with Marc Webb about the score.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q7C1ajvEcs

At about the 2:40 mark he talks about the origin of the "Itsy" motif, and uses the Times Square Battle scene as his example.

Haha I’m usually great with picking up on motifs but this time around it completely went over my head 😛

Speaking of Electro, I’m curious as to the lyrics at the end of his suite, and the little snippet at 0:12 in "Still Crazy". In the latter it sounds like he is saying "Kill Bitches"

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Also, watching that video, I can definitely hear all of the Suspiria inspiration, especially in the Oscorp theme.

Speaking of Electro, I’m curious as to the lyrics at the end of his suite, and the little snippet at 0:12 in "Still Crazy". In the latter it sounds like he is saying "Kill Bitches"

Haha, it’s very clever, in’t it?

Do you mean the lyrics right at the end, as in the little recording session snippet? If so, I can’t make them out either. 😛

And I’ve no idea if it’s "Kill bitches" – but I highly doubt it!

Do you mean the lyrics right at the end, as in the little recording session snippet? If so, I can’t make them out either. 😛

And I’ve no idea if it’s "Kill bitches" – but I highly doubt it!

I have a lot more appreciation for this score. Listening to the last piece of the Electro suite and hearing that there were pages of lyrics written; I wonder if there are some unreleased demos for the ‘jam sessions’ the group did for Electro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dwhsa7LY2U

The fact that it’s so hard to make out shows how well it fits with all the original material. That’s an indication of how well-written it is. 🙂

So very close… Thanks for sharing this, Lockdown!

I disagree. I thought it was very obvious in the movie, at least in the scene where Spidey comments on it. If anything, I’m baffled by how many people somehow missed the itsy bitsy spider.

Because I’m deaf

Of course, if they have, perhaps they can also post Star Wars.

What the…? Where did you hear that?! And these were email/document/correspondance hacks, as far as I know, so is there any likelihood that they’ve managed to nab the sessions too?

Of course, if they have, perhaps they can also post Star Wars.

Disney not Sony owns Star Wars.

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What the…? Where did you hear that?! And these were email/document/correspondance hacks, as far as I know, so is there any likelihood that they’ve managed to nab the sessions too?

The hackers leaked Fury and Annie, which gets released on Xmas. Hopefully this will impress on companies the necessity for better network security.

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The hackers leaked Fury and Annie, which gets released on Xmas. Hopefully this will impress on companies the necessity for better network security.

That’s true. Both of your statements.

But have they leaked any music yet?

That may be true, but last I checked, Sony still has the publishing rights to all six of the previous films’ scores. Chances are they have the sessions as well as the CD masters.

With a year to go until Star Wars hits theaters the question is, "Has John Williams finished the score?" Scoring a film is usually done when the director has a temp edit or completed edit in the can or these days in the hard drive. That way the conductor can time the music to the action. (Or in the case of ET Spielberg recut the bike chase scene to match Williams’ music.) Principal photography wrapped about a month ago so I doubt Abrams has even a temp edit done. Plus with all the interest in the next Star Wars if Williams had gone into the studio to record the score that would be the headline on every fan website and so far nothing. (Williams and his music are as much of an event as the movie.)

I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney now owns the music to this new cycle of films. (Disney, despite its family friendly image, does not play games. They are harder and tougher than coffin nails.)

I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney now owns the music to this new cycle of films. (Disney, despite its family friendly image, does not play games. They are harder and tougher than coffin nails.)

More than likely that they do and Episode VII’s OST will be published under Buena Vista Records.

Well, you could argue that Alan Silvestri did the same with Captain America’s(First Avenger) Main title as well, but maybe that’s just how the "lonely soldier" theme works? It worked for Captain America, as well as for TASM2. In my ears, the trumpets and the way these kinds of songs builds up, it sounds like patriotism, military-ish and lonely soldier-ish. And it’s a theme that many people can relate to.

Here is another good example of similar usage of certain patterns in songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAvfs94TOyA
Vangelis – Introduction (from the movie Alexander)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecOLAexWmL4
Harry Gregson-Williams – Opening Titles (Prometheus)

Here is another good example of similar usage of certain patterns in songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAvfs94TOyA
Vangelis – Introduction (from the movie Alexander)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecOLAexWmL4
Harry Gregson-Williams – Opening Titles (Prometheus)

Exactly. 🙂

Also, it’s kinda the superhero thing, since Williams’ Superman…

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I’ll be using the third one for my own edit, love it! Also, thanks for putting up the chronological order. Weird how pretty much nobody has been able to get it right!

Made a film edit for "The Rest Of My Life" using a good source for the vocals, edited in the harmonic string intro just to complete it

Glad you appreciate my efforts on the cover design and chronological track listing! 😀

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewgg_doYo_o&list=UUZl5YbBwH58qAdkHGAo-s_Q

Made a film edit for "The Rest Of My Life" using a good source for the vocals, edited in the harmonic string intro just to complete it

Nice work! Although there was a bit in the middle that sounded a little messy. Also, I could barely hear the vocals. But it was lovely hearing the intro as it is in the film. So heart-wrenchingly sad…

Are you using the 5.1 stereo channels? If so, could you do a version without the album version at all? Just by removing the sound effects channel (channel 3)? Apart from Peter’s words at the beginning, there’s no dialogue at all, so it should make a fairly clean rip.

I second this. Could you pleeeeease?

I think that’s what this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVFppe-pNM) guy did.

OMGosh that is perfect!!! Thanks for posting the link! 😀

Makes me cry every time.

So you’re NewSuperAvenger? Nice work! There’s still loads of SFX in some tracks, but it’s better than nothing. How did you rip them? From 5.1?

I used Garage’s BRRip for the soundtrack. Then, I used Audacity to use the left and right channels on where are the less effects are spotted.

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Here are more:
The Intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqljczMIoVc&feature=youtu.be
Break-Up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT1Lsf7QsCw&feature=youtu.be
Last Message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J7ilw_iygg&feature=youtu.be
Oscorp Infiltration (ver 2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMGaaFhcfTQ&feature=youtu.be

Thanks for the tracks SpiderPool 😉

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Oh, and I think we all agree that part of the thanks shall go to Garage, no matter how unwelcome his work usually is… 🙂 By the way, SpiderPool, I came across your uploads on YouTube quite some time ago and I thought that it sounded like what Garage had ripped, but more modified. Now it makes sense 😉

Thank you very much. I have also made a playlist on the complete score on YouTube. They feature unreleased songs and the ones from the official release.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLO3qAdvx7imHKh1nvknihspSKtv-ZiyHc

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The complete recording sessions better include the Comic Con music!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_wVwyQ9GnA

Here is another good example of similar usage of certain patterns in songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAvfs94TOyA
Vangelis – Introduction (from the movie Alexander)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecOLAexWmL4
Harry Gregson-Williams – Opening Titles (Prometheus)

that opening titles to prometheus is a direct lift from a track on the the River by John Williams…. I think it’s called The Ancestral Home

What you’ve done is very good, but I can’t hear anything in the rip (apart from the slight SFX) that I’d have a problem with. I think the OST version is possibly an alternate… we’ll have to wait and see what alternates there are in the sessions WHEN we get them. WHEN. WHEN. WHEN. Not if.

i ve never quite understood why people never harrassed sony music on their fb page or email to get more. It worked with interstellar so have you never tried?
You could launch a movement here but the douchebag of admins dont agree to this kind of thread they would put it in the request where no one goes.
You can try anyway ill support you with that

The reason there aren’t more music is because Zimmer doesn’t want you to have more music also the film has been the death of the Spider-Man franchise

Err… neither of those reasons have anything whatsoever to do with what music we do/don’t have.

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i ve never quite understood why people never harrassed sony music on their fb page or email to get more. It worked with interstellar so have you never tried?
You could launch a movement here but the douchebag of admins dont agree to this kind of thread they would put it in the request where no one goes.
You can try anyway ill support you with that

How do you mean it worked with Interstellar?

Everyone else can hear the vocals and strings just fine. I think you are exaggerating a bit there.

Is that so? Does Interstellar offer something different than regular Zimmer works? I haven’t seen the film and frankly, I’m not really turned on by it, so I probably won’t, but I wonder what makes the score for it so outstanding.

You should download the FYC and give it a listen > Thread 182506

I would say the top tracks are 1m01, 2m08, 3m10, 4m16b, 4m17, 5m21, 6m24, 6m25, 6m26, 7m27, 7m30 and 8m31. The entire score is amazing imo, but others feel differently.

If you wonder what makes it so astounding I would say you must see the film and hear the score that way. Then you’ll understand. To listen to the score by itself is one thing, but to hear it paired with the imagery of the film……wow.

I now work in a movie theater, and I was excited to see the film in IMAX, or just see it regularly.

I still haven’t, and I’m instead waiting for the inevitable home release in…March I believe.

Why?

I HEAR it. So often. I was in the IMAX theater during the opening minutes and a short while into the film because I had to sign a checklist. My ears were hurting it was so loud, like a nightclub. Regardless of format it overpowers every other film playing and it has turned me completely off of experiencing it in that venue, because I want to see it at home where I can control it. It just seems to be too much. Overkill. That was the filmmakers’ intention, not a personal criticism (as has been highly publicized) and that’s fine….just not for me to expose myself to. Not at that intensity.

Did you mean to quote that? If so, your reply doesn’t really make sense. Read it again. I’m not talking about your rip at all. I’m simply saying that I prefer the rip taken just from the Bly-ray, as, apart from the minor sfx, there’s nothing I have a problem with. In fact I can hear particularly the vocals better in the rip from just the Blu-ray. What am I exaggerating about?

We know that’s not true and it shows you have absolutely no idea how these things work. Zimmer actually likes getting as much music out as he can – as evidenced with certain recent rereleases of his scores in a more complete form. It’s down to the labels what goes on an OST – in this case, Sony.

also the film has been the death of the Spider-Man franchise

Yeah, to the point where they’re making more.

I couldn’t agree more. Rocklegend has a warped concept of Zimmer as a person. Any musician and composer who doesn’t want their fans to have their work is stupid. But yet Rocklegend professes to like Hans as a friend. Yeah, right.

Yeah, to the point where they’re making more [Spider-Man films].

Haha lol. I don’t think the success of ASM2 is any reason for the amount of score that was released, as Rocklegend is implying. Again, that’s a warped view of the musicians involved. (Not that the musicians have much of a say in what actually gets released…)

Enjoy the 3 day ban for obvious reasons.

Enjoy the 3 day ban for obvious reasons.

I hadn’t noticed that the thread had been moved! Thanks so much! 🙂

This? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGonra9OCj4

To my ears, "The Ancestral Home" starts off with similarities to "Prometheus Opening Titles" (and yeah, even similar tones), but "TAH" goes off into a more melodic road like the norm was with film scores back then. "POT" is a more minimalistic take on the "theme" if you want to compare them, but "POT" has this curiosity and this "what is out there-feeling" to it. Maybe we can conclude that they represents the two sides of the same coin?

It is definitely unlike the other scores he is known for – The Batman Begins trilogy and Inception. Instead of blaring the horns like normal (which is awesome), he really adds a nuance to this film. I agree with DAK – the musical notes set the scene with the movie perfectly. It is a much more subdued soundtrack… but I feel it is just as powerful as any he’s ever done.

Interstellar is probably not a movie you’ll need to see twice… but one that everybody should see once.

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If this comes to pass the only negative is losing Garfield as Spidey.

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Yeah, read this a couple of hours ago in a similar article. It’ll be very interesting seeing the results of the summit pan out…

If this comes to pass the only negative is losing Garfield as Spidey.

A heartfelt amen to that.

I can’t cope with the idea of replacing Andrew Garfield. As someone who came new to Spider-Man with TASM, I cannot imagine him as anyone else. He is the perfect casting choice (as was Emma Stone as Gwen).

"I’m Spider-Man"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW8mk2NDr8A

"So Much Anger"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjsw9RJVp9I
(especially from 1:18 to 1:50)

"I’m Goblin"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGJaSNfwsL8
(a bit terrified from 2:40 to 2:49)

"You’re My Boy"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrtJnqm042w

"My Enemy"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDcKM-xGJAE
(really love the horns at the beginning and 5:50-6:29)

Also, "Song for Zula" as one of the regular songs fits the mood in the movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcdOLKx2XG8

If I’m comparing the score from TASM-1 and 2, the first movie layed the groundwork by being abit emotional, building character, and the second one has more energy, like a refound stamina, which I think suits really well.

And yeah, I like Andrew Garfield better than Tobey Maguire. I think it’s because he has more charm than Tobey. Tobey has more of a surprised look on his face alot, like "oh, is that a unicorn? I’ve never seen that before, wow….just…wow!" 😉

I completely agree with your thoughts. And I also feel that "Song for Zula" really fits the score and the mood of the film.

I’m tempted to say why isn’t "Cold War", "I Need To Know", "I’m Moving To Ebgland", "We’re Best Friends" and "You’re That Spider Guy" on your list… I don’t think I could chose a favourite cue if I was at gun point!

Like you, I really love "I’m Goblin" even though a lot of others didn’t particularly. It is just so brilliantly intense, and conjures up the incredible suspense from that scene so well. The clock tower fight was so fantastically done. Definitely one of the best scenes in the film, and possibly in any Spider-Man film to date. The only downside was… It was too short!

So fucking right.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/cry-about-it-lol.gif

That app needs to be reverse engineered.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/cry-about-it-lol.gif

Hahaha 😀 That really is one of his many derp-moments in the movies. I don’t know, Garfield has a more natural approach to it, making Spider-Man more carefree and laidback. Garfield is acting more or less (with his movements, body language, speech patterns) like you and I would – Natural. Maguire is more "theatre-acting", I think.. Like, "oh, this moment is so intense, I have to show the intensity…..with my EYES!"

Has anyone ever listened to this through the Z+ app?
Does Electro’s theme sound very awesome awesome awesome in the DTS mode?

That app needs to be reverse engineered.

Show us a clip, if you don’t mind. 🙂

I’m tempted to say why isn’t "Cold War", "I Need To Know", "I’m Moving To Ebgland", "We’re Best Friends" and "You’re That Spider Guy" on your list… I don’t think I could chose a favourite cue if I was at gun point!

I would. "I’m Spider-Man" is a theme that I’ve grown accustomed to. So much good energy in the song, so let’s put it this way: if that theme was mine, I would own it everyday.(Just like Garfield does in that scene where the track is played) That song is a musical metaphor for living your life as great as you can 🙂

When it comes to the songs you mentioned, I feel that some of them resembles the ones I picked earlier, so it’s like choosing the same song again. And that’s just silly 😉 But okay, "We’re Best Friends" ain’t so bad.

I can’t.
It’s virtually useless on PC’s since there isn’t a way to reverse engineer the APK app to get the DTS codec for the new DTS: Headphone:X technology.

Just would be nice to have for archival purposes in case someone out there in the world does manage to hack it.

The Z+ app is an Android app that simulates surround sound with headphones.
It uses the new DTS: Headphone:X technology.

Not like the old Dolby Headphone.

They’re not clips either.
It’s just the soundtrack matrixed to DTS headphone (supposedly up to 11.1??).

Sounds more muddied when you listent to the free track.

I would. "I’m Spider-Man" is a theme that I’ve grown accustomed to. So much good energy in the song, so let’s put it this way: if that theme was mine, I would own it everyday.(Just like Garfield does in that scene where the track is played) That song is a musical metaphor for living your life as great as you can 🙂

When it comes to the songs you mentioned, I feel that some of them resembles the ones I picked earlier, so it’s like choosing the same song again. And that’s just silly 😉 But okay, "We’re Best Friends" ain’t so bad.

Haha, I agree. Garfield is much more natural. Totally believable. The opposite of what I’ve seen of Maguire. As you so aptly put it – he ‘theatre-acts’.

And I completely agree – "I’m Spider-Man" is just so awesome I can’t really put into words. The raw energy, freedom, and joy that comes through it… wow. And how that same theme comes through in that latter half of "Cold War" is so much fun!! As a theme, it is by far the best theme Hans came up with for the film. But there are cues that are equally just as good as a whole as "I’m Spider-Man". From a moving, emotional point of view, "The Rest of My Life" (particularly the film version) and "You’re That Spider Guy" are absolutely stunning. When the solo horn comes in at the beginning of "Spider Guy" I just can’t stop that lump coming to my throat. Powerful stuff.

Not at all.
But then, it does effect people differently.

Think of it like a very cheap, simulated "binaural recording".

I can’t hear binaural recordings spanning "around me" on horizontal axis.
Instead, I hear it as though it were a mini-vertical theater in front of me.
Things don’t pop up behind me. They’re above me and in front of me.

This phenomena is different for every person.

Perhaps these Z+ apps share the same principle.
They don’t have the same effect on me as they would someone else who can hear the spatial difference.

But, I think they’ll just recast like Rachel Dawes in the Nolan/Batman trilogy.

Or reboot it again. Another. Damned. Reboot. 😡

Sony should just give up the rights. Give it to Disney/Marvel.
Let them turn it into a blockbuster franchse with The Avengers.

Maybe Shane Black can take Spidey and give us something better than we get with his Iron Man. :laugh:
Maybe Black’s talent is something already destroyed.

Aren’t we all?!

And never say never about Garfield returning. There’s a fair chance he may yet. Fingers crossed.

Or not. If Sony wants to be a dick and replace him like Bay did with Megan Fox in TF3, and the LaBoof in TF4.

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Once you start removing things and saying, ‘No, that doesn’t work,’ then the thread is broken, and it’s hard to go with the flow of the story. Certain people at the studio had problems with certain parts of it, and ultimately the studio is the final say in those movies because they’re the tentpoles, so you have to answer to those people.

If we know anything about Sony thus far (marketing gimmicks when using the wrong wording with the "remastered in 4K" blurays… and other marketing gimmicks)…

Sure, let’s go back to this face :/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOTFxWAWuTo#t=50

lol he is SO unbelievably dopey.

And never say never about Garfield returning. There’s a fair chance he may yet. Fingers crossed.

That was one of Marvel’s stipulations in its talks with Sony before those talks collapsed: a new actor would take on the role of Spider-Man. Painful as it maybe it does make a lot of sense. First, no one is really looking all that fondly on Sony’s reboot of Spidey. Second, why hire the actor associated with that failed attempt? (No slight to Garfield, he’s neither the writer or director.) Third, Marvel would want someone it chose and vetted especially since Marvel locks its actors into multi-year contracts.

Sorry, but most movie goers couldn’t tell the difference between Garfield the actor and Garfield the cat. We’ve had several different Batmans, Supermans and James Bonds and other than the die-hard fans no one really cares. What matters is the movie.

BUT I CAN STILL HOPE!!!!!!!

BTW, if you want to see some of Garfield’s non-Spidey work, check out the Red Riding Trilogy. It’s excellent but you might want to turn the subtitles on. Some of those British dialects take some getting used to.

BTW, if you want to see some of Garfield’s non-Spidey work, check out the Red Riding Trilogy. It’s excellent but you might want to turn the subtitles on. Some of those British dialects take some getting used to.

I’d be tempted to agree with you – wiping the slate clean might be the only way to save Garfield and Emma if the rights revert back to Marvel… but TASM was so good. And ASM2 wasn’t as bad as everyone makes out…

TIME TRAVEL ALL THE FRANCHISES!!

TIME TRAVEL ALL THE FRANCHISES!!

Haha yeah! Lol

We can’t see the image, btw.

I’m so happy for them!! 😀 I have to remember that they are still alive and still together in real life to stop myself from despairing…

And to the topic (I guess), I kinda get the feeling that Spidey will be saved very soon (according to unconfirmed info all around the internet) and we just might see Garfield once again. Personally, I hope he stays… We’ll wait and see.

I’ve not really heard any rumours, but I sincerely hope that’s the case! I can’t wait to hear the results of the Spidey summit!!

Did you not know they were together?

I think they should wear their costumes at the wedding…

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Nope. 🙁

You know, like if McGuire and Dunst hooked up in the first Spidey trilogy.

Maguire really does "theatre-act". I mean just look at that face!!!

Marvel and Sony, please please please somehow keep Garfield!!!

Part of being smart is knowing where you are stupid and Sony is stupid at superheroes. ASM1 was not a great reboot but it was a good one. (Pandering to the teen crowd – Pete a skateboarder, really? – and having him break his promise to Captain Stacey to stay away from Gwen made Pete look wishy-washy: not good. You want your heroes to have the courage to carry out their promises even and especially when it hurts them.)

ASM2 was a pooh screw, sorry James but it was, on the level of the Green Lantern film. (If you like, I can at a later date enumerate where and how ASM2 screwed said pooch. It’s a long list.) If you want proof, granted of an anecdotal nature, is the audience clamoring for a new Spidey film in the same way they are for Avengers: AoU, or Cap3 or GoTG2?

”…And while Gwen Stacy was killed in "The Amazing Spider-Man 2," there is a high probability that its sequel, which is now slated for a 2018 release, will be bringing back the character.” [2015-01-19]

I mean… what’s next?? 😀 😀

It’s not the first time I read something like this. It’s connected with the Clones…? Never have I read the comics, so can’t really comment. There are more and more of such articles coming up lately and if most of them mention a possible Stone’s return, then there’s just no way they gonna ban Garfield. I cross my fingers for him.

Yeah, I’ve heard that rumour too. I really hope they don’t bring her back (awful though that sounds) as it would take away the gravity of the death scene at the end of ASM2. The whole point is that she is GONE. FOREVER. And there is NO WAY he can EVER get her back. That’s why it’s such an amazingly emotional scene.

But please come back, Garfield!!

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Oh God, not the "Clone Saga". That had to be one of my least favorite storylines, went on way too long and didn’t add anything, except a lot of confusion, to the Spidey mythos.

Part of being smart is knowing where you are stupid and Sony is stupid at superheroes. ASM1 was not a great reboot but it was a good one. (Pandering to the teen crowd – Pete a skateboarder, really? – and having him break his promise to Captain Stacey to stay away from Gwen made Pete look wishy-washy: not good. You want your heroes to have the courage to carry out their promises even and especially when it hurts them.)

ASM2 was a pooh screw, sorry James but it was, on the level of the Green Lantern film. (If you like, I can at a later date enumerate where and how ASM2 screwed said pooch. It’s a long list.) If you want proof, granted of an anecdotal nature, is the audience clamoring for a new Spidey film in the same way they are for Avengers: AoU, or Cap3 or GoTG2?

I agree having a clone storyline sounds absolutely terrible. Fingers crossed that WON’T happen. Please, Sony, don’t make yet another stupid decision to add to your ever-growing list.

What exactly is wrong with Pete being a skateboarder? I actually thought it was a really nice touch. It made him a bit more… real. And less of a "nerd-who-can’t-do-anything-like-normal-people" cliche.

But I do agree – the whole ‘promise’ thing was difficult. I do understand what they were trying to achieve at the end of TASM (with that love it/hate it line from Peter), but they should have worded it differently. Somehow. Whatever. I look past that.

I know all the reasons people throw at ASM2 for being rubbish, believe me. And I do understand a lot of them. That was a bit much to try to cram into one movie. The things that bother me are the little details. For example, why does Spider-Man spend 20 whole seconds talking to Max whilst Aleksei Sytsevich is smashing through NY potentially killing more people every second?! His line "I need you! You’re my eyes and ears out here!" is utter rubbish, as he’s obviously never met this guy before, and what the dickens does that even mean?? "Eyes and ears"?? How can Max possibly act as Spider-Man’s eyes and ears?! I literally have no clue what that means. If anybody else understood it, do please enlighten me. Also, Spider-Man takes down Electro with a hose?! Seriously? Peter really can’t have paid any attention in science class, as Gwen mentions later in the film, because if he had he’d have known that water is a conductor of electricity. Had he never heard what happens when you drop a toaster into a bath? Clearly not. The filmmakers clearly didn’t know this either, as it actually works and Electro is captured. Even if the huge blast of water had knocked him out of the air, he would still have made the water on the ground live with electricity. He’s lying in a puddle as they capture him, for crying out loud!!! How did the water do anything to hinder/stop him??

And another thing: How come Electro doesn’t ‘teleport’ (or whatever it’s called) when Dr Kafka is experimenting on him at Ravenscroft? He somehow manages it when Harry shoots him with a little taser zap, but not when Kafka sends much larger amounts through him?? Also, I really didn’t like Dr Kafka. Really. Hey, why did they change her gender anyway?! I’ve never read the comics, but when I heard she was a female in the comics, I thought "Yeah, that would have been way cooler." Why substitute a fairly-original female scientist with the most cliched, stereotypical German male scientist in the history of movies??

And there were at lot of other things wrong as well (like, putting his other impossible abilities aside, where did Electro’s pants-making abilities come from??). But whatever.

Everything else was awesome. The acting was (mainly) above top-notch. Garfield and Stone rightly stole the show. Absolutely brilliant. And I didn’t think Dane DeHaan was as bad as everyone else seems to think he was. The Goblin fight at the end was beyond epic (it was just too short, that’s all). Spidey’s costume was his best ever. Much, much more attractive that Maguire’s. Absolutely fantastic. And the effects and action were of incredible quality. And as someone else here has already said (I forget whom), it really caught the feel of a comic book. Very fast-paced, really crazy, immensely exciting, etc. And the colour palette was simply gorgeous! So overall I really loved this movie. I just want Sony to continue with ASM3 and for them to step right back and let Marc Webb do his job. That’s all that’s needed. One more successful ASM movie, and the entire franchise will be back on track.

I’m a perfectionist, what can I say?! :awsm:

Glad you prefer Webb’s Spidey films over Raimi’s. You have seen TASM now, haven’t you?! Yeah, you missed out seeing them the wrong way round, but never mind. Better late then never, eh?

Crappy for a superhero movie.
The only "clones" I liked were the mutants who had the power.

The only reason to do clones is to have today’s youth say "but if they did it real good. like can you imagine?" and then let them do bath salts before watching the movie.
If it’s going to be a super campy story, they should just get Nic Cage to take over become the Spiderman.

I expect there to be a Scooby Doo montage of clones running through a corridor of doors.

Today’s generations have a lot of explaining to do, why we get left so many messes of films and entertainment.

But good writing only comes from reading books. A writer needs to know how to structure a story with a beginning, middle and end, with scenes that build on the ones before, create characters which are interesting and write dialogue that both entertains and moves the story and people forward.

Reading teaches you those skills. If a writer has watched only movies or TV then chances are everything written will resemble those movies and TV.

like blue collar jobs: how many times do the CEO’s and shareholders come to visit the workplace and act like they belong there?
They just own the place, they got no reason trying to mingle with their workers and make shit-ass jokes and force everyone to laugh.

If it ain’t on the page, it ain’t on the stage.

As for people meddling in areas where they lack ability, we had an expression in the military: stay in your lane.

Haha, it was. Once upon a time. It did revert back to the score on the previous page… but all the news, excitement, and rumours surrounding the Spidey franchise has kinda taken over temporarily.

But don’t let that stop any discussion of the score! If you have an opinion to give, do, by all means, give it. 🙂

I can’t tell if Fox has a surprise hit and is biding its time or concealing the film while reshoots are done.

We’ll know in August.

We’ll know in August.

Indeed so. We shall see what we shall see.

Garfield is back…?! (http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/02/08/the-amazing-spider-man-3-andrew-garfield-is-back-2673735?lt_source=external,manual)

I’m not so sure all hope is gone. Let’s analyse the article…

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Ok, first of all the title "Sony Pictures Entertainment Brings Marvel Studios Into The Amazing World Of Spider-Man".

Sony is bringing Marvel into the world of Spider-Man (the word amazing is misleading here, I think!) – not "Marvel steps in to take creative control of Spider-Man". Without reading too much into it, I’d say it’s leaving open the possibility that Marvel has been brought into Sony’s world of Spider-Man, which at the moment is the ASM franchise.

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"New Spider-Man Will Appear First in an Upcoming Marvel Film Within Marvel’s Cinematic Universe"

– this is a little worrying. ‘New’ implies a new actor, which in turn implies a new franchise. Yet another reboot.

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"Marvel’s Kevin Feige to Produce Next Installment of the Spider-Man Franchise with Amy Pascal"

– Next instalment? If they’re rebooting it, don’t they mean ‘New Instalment of the Spider-Man Franchise’? Or ‘First Instalment of a New Spider-Man Franchise"? ‘Next’ seems to imply a continuation of the current franchise.

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"Under the deal, the new Spider-Man will first appear in a Marvel film from Marvel’s Cinematic Universe (MCU)."

– here we get the ‘new’ Spider-Man again.

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"Sony Pictures will thereafter release the next installment of its $4 billion Spider-Man franchise, on July 28, 2017, in a film that will be co-produced by Kevin Feige and his expert team at Marvel and Amy Pascal, who oversaw the franchise launch for the studio 13 years ago."

– here we get the ‘next’ wording again. However, with a new release date set between the previous dates for Sinister Six and ASM3, it’s not looking good…

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"Together, they will collaborate on a new creative direction for the web slinger."

– this could be taken to mean a complete reboot, or it could simply mean a new creative direction for the ASM franchise.

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"Sony Pictures will continue to finance, distribute, own and have final creative control of the Spider-Man films."

– this might not mean anything, but if it means anything it might be something positive for ASM.

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""Marvel, Kevin Feige and Amy, who helped orchestrate this deal, are the perfect team to help produce the next chapter of Spider-Man," said Michael Lynton, Chairman and CEO of Sony Pictures Entertainment."

– here we get ‘next’ again…

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That’s basically it for now, until something else pops up. I think I ought to point out, however, that if they had come to a decision about scrapping the ASM franchise (incl. Garfield) I think they would have mentioned it in the article. They would have made it much clearer that they were completely rebooting Spider-Man and starting a new franchise. Those two words did not appear side-by-side in the article. So I’m still holding out hope that they are still in talks about ASM and Garfield.

I’m very divided about these news, honestly. Initially I wanted Spidey to be taken away from Sony and their bag of cash-grabbing studio execs, but now that it has ‘apparently’ happened, I suppose that deep down, I still wanted them to at least try to get it right for once and conclude the trilogy with a third film. Not only that, but of all the ridiculous side projects they were setting up, I was actually getting curious about what the Sinister Six film would bring to the franchise. Scrapping all of these projects (some for good though) with no conclusion seems like spitting on Gwen Stacy’s grave to me. At least Spider-Man 3 ended with a ‘satisfactory’ ending of the characters’ journeys, just saying…

That said, it’s very unrealistic that Marvel would bring anyone back, specially if they don’t want their long-running universe to be tarnished with Sony’s bad blood (which amounts to nothing if that douchebag Pascal is still involved, smh). If they indeed let Garfield in the role, I will officially start to believe in miracles :O

But hey, not all is bad news. At least with this franchise rendered irrelevant, maybe the sessions will appear sooner? 😀

And my suggestion for the movie, forget the Goblin, Sinister Six or Doc Ock, at least for the first film. Make it a stand alone. Give Pete a villain who is truly dangerous, who will test Pete’s meddle as a hero, who has nothing to lose and wants Spidey dead and Pete’s head on a trophy wall before he dies.

Kraven the Hunter. Use the graphic novel Kraven’s Last Hunt as the source material and make the film visceral and bloody or as bloody as PG-13 allows. Then transition Spidey into the rest of the MCU.

And apropos nothing, Marvel is looking at Angelina Jolie to drivel the Carol Danvers version of Captain Marvel. I say "yes" and it’s about damn time Marvel fields a solo super-heroine film.

Then again, Marvel won’t want to remind anyone of the ASM franchise.

"Got room at the table for a friendly, neighborhood Spider-Man?"

Cut to black. I think the audience would lose its mind, put Spidey in the MCU and stoke the fires for the standalone film in 2017.

This was my reaction when I saw this (https://twitter.com/lindazge/status/565009810093912064).

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At least not everything Sony was trying to do will be lost, and under Marvel’s tutelage the film can turn into something really interesting. Besides, we’ve never seen a team of supervillains in the MCU yet, and this is their opportunity to try that (unless Loki has been recruiting others, which is my ongoing theory).

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Even if Stone and Garfield won’t return in their respective roles… how neat would it be if they made a cameo appearance in Civil War? Like Spider-Man swooping through NYC, and the two are walking together, and Garfield notes, "I swear I’ve seen that guy before!" And Stone says something snarky like, "You say that about everyone."

I support this idea 100%! Emma always brings it when it comes to cameos. Sadly, even if it were possible, people would start to complain that now other people (besides Stan Lee) are thrown in to break suspension of disbelief or whatever weird complains they can think of.

Maybe right now the news is still fresh, but perhaps on a later film, maybe in 2020-somethings, this idea could work.

Then again, Marvel won’t want to remind anyone of the ASM franchise.

Great idea! It would be a lovely nod to Garfield’s Spidey.

Make the break a clean one and don’t look back.

Oh, and… whot the f… is Linde Ge…?

Completely agree. Completely utterly agree on all points. 🙂

I have no idea. Guess she’s someone in the know. Or an evil rumour spreader. Whichever.

After reading what abryus1337 said, I also realized that besides the character’s popularity, Gwen’s death is the riskiest move this franchise had done so far, and to just drop all that buildup is a disservice to the crew involved in all aspects. Here’s a scene that could’ve changed the whole landscape of the series, and one that demanded so much effort, but they decided to drop everything as is. Obviously Feige won’t give a damn about what Sony has done, in his mind he can be thinking ‘we can top that sh!t’, but Sony threw away a huge opportunity for the sake of financial stability, when they could’ve achieved a similar success on their own if they had played their cards right.

In theory, TASM2 can be seen as having a definite conclusion in the way that X3 (yeah, I know) did: one bad guy "destroyed", another in jail, and a third one about to be defeated; if that’s not enough, a character was killed for good measure. It isn’t that much of a stretch to think of TASM2 as the end of the character’s journey; the thing is, why should we do that?

After reading what abryus1337 said, I also realized that besides the character’s popularity, Gwen’s death is the riskiest move this franchise had done so far, and to just drop all that buildup is a disservice to the crew involved in all aspects. Here’s a scene that could’ve changed the whole landscape of the series, and one that demanded so much effort, but they decided to drop everything as is. Obviously Feige won’t give a damn about what Sony has done, in his mind he can be thinking ‘we can top that sh!t’, but Sony threw away a huge opportunity for the sake of financial stability, when they could’ve achieved a similar success on their own if they had played their cards right.

In theory, TASM2 can be seen as having a definite conclusion in the way that X3 (yeah, I know) did: one bad guy "destroyed", another in jail, and a third one about to be defeated; if that’s not enough, a character was killed for good measure. It isn’t that much of a stretch to think of TASM2 as the end of the character’s journey; the thing is, why should we do that?

As I’ve said before, my theory is that ASM2 should have been split into two movies.

How The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Should Have Been Made:

The movie opens with Peter and Gwen still struggling with their relationship, after the events of ASM. They are not quite sure whether to be together or not, but they are still friends. Throughout the film this relationship tension is explored and expanded, as Marc Webb did well. Peter breaks up with Gwen a few times, but always gets back together with her again. The main Electro storyline is pretty much the same as it was in the actual film. At some point in the film, Harry is introduced as an old friend of Peter’s. As in the actual film, Peter discovers what really happened to his parents and finds Roosevelt Station, etc. The film ends with the defeat of Electro and Peter and Gwen still together.

What The Amazing Spider-Man 3 Should Have Been:

The movie opens with Peter and Gwen’s graduation (like in the actual ASM2), and continues to explore their relationship, including the break-up (from the actual ASM2). This way, from what happened in ASM2 above, it makes much more sense when Gwen tells Peter that he has "done this to [her] again and again". Peter meets Norman Osbourne whilst visiting Harry. Osbourne’s health decays throughout the first half of the film, leading to his death at the midpoint. Like in the actual ASM2, Harry discovers that he has the same retroviral hyperplasia and decides to get Spider-Man’s blood. Meanwhile, the relationship between Peter and Gwen follows the actual ASM2 with Gwen thinking of going to Oxford, etc. As in the actual ASM2, they finally decide to be together forever on the bridge. The climax is the fight between Spidey and Gobiln (which would be much longer than in the actual ASM2), and ends with Gwen’s death, exactly as in the actual ASM2. They couldn’t have done that better. Utterly heart-breaking. As in the actual ASM2, the film ends with Harry setting up the Sinister Six.

But hey, what’s happened has happened. Garfield is gone, never to don the Spider suit again. The world has lost its best Peter Parker and its best Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man. You will be missed, Garfield. Sorely missed.

On the other hand… considering the circumstances, maybe keeping that scene in would have given the franchise a nice "never the end" feel, and that the ASM universe is still filled with mystery and intrigue.

On the other hand… considering the circumstances, maybe keeping that scene in would have given the franchise a nice "never the end" feel, and that the ASM universe is still filled with mystery and intrigue.

I’m split over that scene. The first time I saw it I was like… "WT..??!"

I think it’s a great plot twist, but an impossible one. There is no way Richard Parker survived that plane crash. He takes the parachute off the murderous pilot’s back whilst he is unconscious, but never puts it on. And there’s no way he could have put it on after he shoots the windows out. But the graveyard scene was very moving, nonetheless.

The script, in the immortal words of Bart Simpson, Esq., sucked and blew at the same time.

Hopefully this film and Green Lantern will serve as examples to future writers, directors, and studios of how not to make superhero films.

P.S. If Sony and Marvel really want to put the previous Spidey movies in the rearview, then move from Peter Parker to Miles Morales. Watch the internet fuse into glass as fans deal with the idea of an African-American Spider-Man.

Me, I’m all for that idea. It’s time for more heroes whose color or culture or gender is something other than white and male.

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I demand the complete score as compensation.

Amen, amen, and amen.

Poor Webb, poor Garfield, poor Stone, poor Field, poor Horner, poor Zimmer, poor Pharell, etc., etc.

Hey, maybe somebody could track those hackers down and persuade them to give out the complete score. Provided they haven’t deleted all the data, that is.

Mhm. Crying shame. They should publicly apologise, to the filmmakers/cast and the public/fans.

Hey, maybe somebody could track those hackers down and persuade them to give out the complete score. Provided they haven’t deleted all the data, that is.

Not sure who’s gonna want to track down the hackers, but I highly doubt they’ve deleted the data.

Talk to hackers who are supposedly from North Korea?

That’s probably not a good idea. :p

The Amazing Spider-Man is dead and buried along with all the what-ifs and might-have-beens and would-it-not-have-been-cool so let this franchise rest in peace. Webb, Garfield, Stone are talented individuals and I doubt if any of this will tarnish their reps – look at the praise Stone is receiving for her work in Birdman- and the causes of failure will fall on Sony, where I think most of it belongs.

The lessons learned: studios hire a director with a passion and vision for the project and let him or her alone, have a strong script because it will be your road map and lifeline when things get tough – a quick test, if you can pull all the super heroic elements from it and it still works, you have a good script – hire actors who don’t think they’re slumming by appearing in a superhero movie and finally, directors make sure you get a final cut/final edit provision in your contract.

And with that, I bid this thread good-bye.

Haha lol, I wouldn’t go that far… there is only one Lord and Saviour. 😉

But I’ll agree – Garfield was the saviour of the character on screen, from Maguire.

Poor Webb, poor Garfield, poor Stone, poor Field, poor Horner, poor Zimmer, poor Pharell, etc., etc.

I would’ve stopped at ‘poor Horner’ though. I doubt Zimmer and Pharell’s career will be impaired with this film; if anything they may see it like any other job they’ve had.

I guess it’s a bit premature to start talking about this, but who would you think will be hired to score the new films? I wouldn’t be surprised if Marvel asked Brian Tyler to do it, but there’s only so much one man can do; besides, it would be ideal if they looked for someone with a different sound for Spider-Man.

I guess it’s a bit premature to start talking about this, but who would you think will be hired to score the new films? I wouldn’t be surprised if Marvel asked Brian Tyler to do it, but there’s only so much one man can do; besides, it would be ideal if they looked for someone with a different sound for Spider-Man.

I meant "poor" as in "People are going to forget about the ASM franchise and all the creative genius behind it when MARVEL reboot it, which is such a pity."

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Yeah, I’ve no idea. I can’t imagine anything other than Horner and Zimmer for Spidey lol.

I think he did some supportive work, but he refused to score outright because of his experiences with Spider-Man 2 and Sam Raimi. It was a problem that got cleared up later.

Funny… I was actually gonna say something about Elfman’s work, but I lost my train of thought and erased that. However, I doubt Marvel would ask any previous composer (Elfman, Young, Horner or even Zimmer) to come back in any way. It’s unlikely that they’d ask any of them to write new, unrelated material for a character they’ve previously worked on, and reprising old ideas is certainly out of the question. Such a creative challenge could force them to leave the project altogether, leaving Marvel on square one.

What you described is indeed true, but apparently Marvel Studios doesn’t work that way. Thor 2 supposedly had this very issue, with Alan Taylor asking Carter Burwell to score the film, but Marvel allegedly didn’t like the idea, which resulted in Brian Tyler getting the call. From that moment on, Marvel has apparently secured Brian’s involvement in several projects, including three films, a TV special, the All Hail the King One-Shot and the studio fanfare. Hiring other composers for Guardians and Ant-Man shows that they’re keeping their options open, but they clearly have Tyler on speed dial at this point.

Agreed.

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I wish the recording sessions could leak anytime in the near future !!

Ah, don’t we all?

Mmmm… don’t sound legit to me. Sounds like some bad DVD rip.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Unreleased Music: My Choice: http://youtu.be/ZeFIOnFomeQ

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Unreleased Music: My Choice: http://youtu.be/ZeFIOnFomeQ

Wow! That really was amazing!! Why cues like that aren’t released officially is a complete mystery.

Yeah, me too. But you broke your silent waiting by writing that comment. 😛

@1:17 is one of my favourites, sounds like an alternate cue but id love a full version of it!!

@1:17 is one of my favourites, sounds like an alternate cue but id love a full version of it!!

Isn’t it amazing?! I absolutely love that cue. I don’t think it’s an alternate – I think it’s "Flying Montage".

It’s gonna be a good day when the sessions leak.

It’s gonna be a good day when the sessions leak.

That’s exactly how I feel about this score.

That’s how you do spoilers. :smrt:

The only one of those we have is Gwen’s death, but the album version is nowhere near as good as the film version.

Opening scene is There He Is, Gwen and Peter break up is I Chose You & Gwen’s Death is Let Her Go

In all honesty, I believe that I Chose You and We’re Best Friends should swap titles. Before I got a hold of the film I thought that I Chose You was heard when they’re on the bridge, but when I saw the scene again it turns out that the actual cue is We’re Best Friends, whereas I Chose You is the cue on Times Square (before Electro arrives). Naming both tracks that way is blatantly ridiculous, and it really messes up the listener’s mind about what is being heard. Seriously, Zimmer, why do you even do this shit?

At least this sounds like a mild complaint compared to the TDKR releases… 🙁

Now that I think about it, the title ‘Ground Rules’ should apply to I Chose You (which is what the Times Square scene was about in the first place), leaving that title available for We’re Best Friends. Hopefully I’m not overthinking this xDD

Opening scene is There He Is, Gwen and Peter break up is I Chose You & Gwen’s Death is Let Her Go

There He Is is the closest we have to the opening cue, but it’s definitely not the same. At best it’s an alternate version. It’s way faster for a start. Also, what the heck does the title mean?!

I Chose You is when Peter & Gwen are in Times Square and Gwen tells Peter that she’s moving to England. That track should have been called I’m Moving To England.

Well, technically Gwen does between Let Her Go and The Rest of My Life. I think of the death cue as The Rest of My Life because she’s still alive during Let Her Go. and Peter only discovers that she’s dead at the beginning of The Rest of My Life. Oh, and that’s another title that’s wrong – Let Her Go is what Peter tells Harry on the roof before they fight inside the clock tower, which is before Gwen falls to her death.

In all honesty, I believe that I Chose You and We’re Best Friends should swap titles. Before I got a hold of the film I thought that I Chose You was heard when they’re on the bridge, but when I saw the scene again it turns out that the actual cue is We’re Best Friends, whereas I Chose You is the cue on Times Square (before Electro arrives). Naming both tracks that way is blatantly ridiculous, and it really messes up the listener’s mind about what is being heard. Seriously, Zimmer, why do you even do this shit?

At least this sounds like a mild complaint compared to the TDKR releases… 🙁

Yep, completely agree. We’re Best Friends should be renamed I Choose You (note choose present tense).

Nice though it is, the title "we’re best friends" doesn’t actually appear in the film – at least not to my memory. So it’s just confusing to use it.

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Honestly I think TASM2’s cue titles are as inappropriately named as the cues off PotC1. Everything is mixed up

Yeah. Basically.

So I Chose You should be renamed I’m Moving To England, as it plays during the scene in Times Sq when Gwen tells Peter exactly that.

I’m Moving To England should be renamed On Different Paths (or something similar), as it plays during the scene before Gwen’s interview for Oxford when she tells Peter exactly that.

We’re Best Friends should be renamed I Choose You as it plays during the scene on the bridge when Peter tells Gwen exactly that.

Ground Rules plays during the scene at the end of the film after The Rest of My Life preceding You’re That Spider Guy when Aunt May talks to Peter about why she’s moving Uncle Ben’s stuff. I can’t think of a quote from that to use as an alternate title atm.

Speaking of which, You’re That Spider Guy is another ambiguous title. It’s a mashup of quotes from Max and Aunt May. Max says to Peter at the beginning "You’re Spider-Man!" to which Peter replies "Costume gives it away, doesn’t it?". During the scene referenced to in the preceding paragraph, Aunt May says "Pity about that spider guy. Seems like everybody really needs him." So that cue should be renamed something along the lines of Becoming Spider-Man Again or even plain old Rhino Fight, which I believe is actually the actual name.

More evidence that the ASM2 OST was handled horribly. Out of order, crossfading cues, lots of good tracks left out, and even the track titles are totally incorrect.

I want the sessions and I want ’em now.

I am still waiting for the sessions as well… Still waiting…

Yes, but the names they’ve used would still be nice and spoiler-free on the correct cues. If no one’s seen the film yet, no one’s seen the film, so no one knows what the music means anyway. If that makes sense. :p

We PM you and you tell us you’re selling it? You know a guy who has it who may be friends with someone? It it scoreman? Are you scoreman?

PM him and he’ll explain.

I’m good. I don’t have "sucker" stamped on my forehead. But I do have an "I’m with stupid" t-shirt that I can wear while standing next to all the fools who PM Sugar Man.

And here the great TASM2 circle jerk begins once again. Gents, you’re going to go blind.

Been jerking off for years and I’ve yet to go blind :p

Sorry, I had to

:awsm:

Been jerking off for years and I’ve yet to go blind :p

Sorry, I had to

:awsm:

I understand. It’s a compulsion.

I’ll repeat myself: I’m not a sucker. But I got that "I’m with stupid" t-shirt. Just came out of the dryer. Hot and fresh.

Although….I do have $1,000 on me right this second. Stuffed in an envelope hidden away.

I understand. It’s a compulsion.

One of many

I get the distinct feeling this falls into the "I’ve some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you and/or unicorns farting rainbows" category of pipe (hash) dreams.

I 100% agree

He wanted that information private. Oh well, it’s not like it would have actually lead to anything.

You don’t have to be sorry about anything. I’m pretty stuff like recent posts happen all the time in the forums. I still hold luck that something comes out of what’s been transpiring.

Chatter on some sites (like H-Z.com – and see above) is that it is in the highest rungs of the trading circles.

Since when was it "not around"? Everything is around. Particularly this.

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Man what a day it would be if this manages to leak. I’m dying to hear the logos cue. The first 40 seconds is something of amazement, I enjoyed the family motif as well, especially when peter found his dads briefcase. But I wish the opening credits theme was used more frequently. It would be AMAZING if this leaked before a university starts, it would be a great way to start the new academic year! 🙂

You’re telling me! I just watched the beginning of the film again, and I want the plane fight cue ("Parents On Plane") so badly!!

I’m a little confused about the cue list we have so far though – it seems the first cues are "The Logos", "The Opening", and then "Parents on Plane". But the logos cue is the opening cue. Or the opening cue is the logos cue. Whichever way you look at it. It’s just one cue, that starts with the logos and finishes as the scene cuts to the jet in the clouds. Not two.

Batman v. Superman, particularly.

I’m a little confused about the cue list we have so far though – it seems the first cues are "The Logos", "The Opening", and then "Parents on Plane". But the logos cue is the opening cue. Or the opening cue is the logos cue. Whichever way you look at it. It’s just one cue, that starts with the logos and finishes as the scene cuts to the jet in the clouds. Not two.

This is something I’m interested in too. Maybe the "opening" is just part of the music for the plane scene?

Not sure how that’s possible… We shall see one day. :p

I guess it was fated to turn out that way though.

Nah, you’re clearly just one of those folks who isn’t capable of appreciating it to the level that the rest of us can. 😉

It’s completely worth all the chatter. But I also hope it turns up soon, don’t worry.

CAN I HAVE THE LINK PLEASE THANKS

I guess it was fated to turn out that way though.

But you can’t deny that it’s certainly housed a lot of chatter and debate. I think it’s good to have a dedicated thread or else folks will do it elsewhere and annoy others even more…

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My favorite post in this thread:

Haha yes! And hack3rman’s reply! :p

Wow… You’re stupid!

Damn! You gave me a heart attack just for a YouTube rip with the wrong opening?! Why?? :p

Proberly to Get Courage Excited 😀

James, you didn’t honestly think someone uploaded the sessions TASM2 score onto YouTube? Breathe into a paper bag, James, until your breathing returns to normal.

Will someone please upload this fucker before James has a real heart attack? Death by Delayed Gratification doesn’t really work on a tombstone.

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James, you didn’t honestly think someone uploaded the sessions TASM2 score onto YouTube? Breathe into a paper bag, James, until your breathing returns to normal.

Will someone please upload this fucker before James has a real heart attack? Death by Delayed Gratification doesn’t really work on a tombstone.
Can’t upload something that doesn’t exist, for like the tenth time no one has it!

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Can’t upload something that doesn’t exist, for like the tenth time no one has it!

I know. I was engaging in hyperbole.

LOFL.

Will someone please upload this fucker before James has a real heart attack? Death by Delayed Gratification doesn’t really work on a tombstone.

Of course not! Why would I ever think that? It wasn’t a YouTube link – didn’t you see? Lockdown posted a mega link to download a single track. So I got mega excited (no pun intended), thinking it must be one of the legit cues from the sessions. Rushed to download it and listen but it turns out it’s just a YouTube rip of the DVD rip someone uploaded months ago.

But yes, I did nearly have a heart attack. That much is true. :p

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It’s not the wrong opening?

Yes it is. I’m surprised you haven’t noticed. Whoever put this track together simply stuck the opening of the OST track "Look At Me" at the beginning. That’s why it cuts in so abruptly. It’s definitely not the opening cue from the film until it gets to to 0:50 mark when it fades into the movie ripped cue. Don’t ask why he did that, as the ripped track should have been fine. There’s no sound effects over the logos at all, so why he felt he had to stick the OST track in there instead beats me.

Pretty sure someone wants to be the one that "is the saviour" "uploads what everyone has wanted for long" for "Likes and reps" and appreciation. XD They want it so much they wouldn’t care if that’d make them lose the contact
http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/This-Is-Why-We-Cant-Have-Nice-Things-Gif.gif

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/Griggsbird/mj-thriller-popcorn-o.gif

Pretty sure someone wants to be the one that "is the saviour" "uploads what everyone has wanted for long" for "Likes and reps" and appreciation. XD They want it so much they wouldn’t care if that’d make them lose the contact

Ponyo, I hate to break it to you, but it really doesn’t work like that.

I’m telling you, it’s gonna be a big sucess.

http://www.index.hr/images2/DjecaBozic888.gif

I really enjoyed your Spidey Suite, Lockdown. Thanks again for sharing. Although as you said, it was more like an OST suite. I’m thinking of renaming it simply Suite from "The Amazing Spider-Man 2".

I really liked a lot of the transitions, particularly the last one going into "You’re That Spider Guy". Nice job. 🙂

SCORE MAFIA. Coming soon to a theatre near you.

Get out before we go any more off topic. Besides, who cares about a trading mafia? Ugh…

http://static2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/actually+made+me+burst+out+laughing+_c0989c90f6fc6 d8931256cad3c11de75.gif

STAY. ON TOPIC. DAMN IT.

:this: Is Off Topic :awsm:

http://www.gamedots.mx/media/gd/198gpsnhfe5t1gif.gif

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:this: Is Off Topic :awsm:

http://www.gamedots.mx/media/gd/198gpsnhfe5t1gif.gif

True

Absolutely wonderful. Waiting for a leak. 🙂

Moaing About People Wanting This….Never Heard It LOL

http://www.karmaloop.com/guru/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2013/12/spiderman_4.gif

I’ll bring the pizzas then.

Wanting A Sample, To See Why People Like It Means You Have Not Heard 😛

Have Spotify? Then there you go!

She Might Trip And Drop It :awsm:

"Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" LAWLS XD

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5313d0a76bb3f79e058e65b1/jennifer%20lawrence%20red%20carpet%20fail.gif

I’ll talk however I want, mister, you’re not the boss of me. 🙂
http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrsxyamGd31qd9vcjo1_250.gif

Down goes Jlaw

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrsxyamGd31qd9vcjo1_250.gif

I posted saying "The day it leaks will be a day of celebration, I’ll supply the drinks" and HunterTech said "I’ll bring the pizzas". Then the Jennifer Lawrence pizza joke came along.

Its A Riot Mate, Truly Hilerious.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6mamnuDyd1r03eggo4_500.gif

I posted you one not long ago if I remember correctly. But I’ll post some YouTube links here again if you like.

Look up these OST tracks:

"I’m Spider-Man" going straight into "Cold War". That’s a pretty good example for you. You’ve got some of the big themes in there – Spidey’s epic fanfare, Electro’s clarinet theme, and one of the emotional themes.

"You Need Me" is really nice.
"I Chose You" is also really nice, as is "I’m Moving To England".
"I Need To Know" is amazing.
"Sum Total" and "Harry’s Suite" are addictively fascinating…
"We’re Best Friends" is beautiful.
"So Much Anger" is great.
"Still Crazy" is equally great.
"I’m Goblin" is INTENSE. Absolutely incredible.
"The Rest of My Life" – the OST version is almost boring compared to the film version, which is the most heart-breakingly sad cue I think I’ve ever heard. But I was hit pretty hard by the scene in the film itself, so maybe that’s why.
"You’re That Spider Guy" is equally emotional. I tear up when I listen to this one too. But it’s also amazingly triumphant, and the ending is just awesome.

Wait… did I just list the entire deluxe track list? Just listen to the playlist on YouTube.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/SpeterMan3/7mcc8_zpsd505f2e0.gif

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LOL That Ponyo Likes :awsm:

Thank you. You’ll see from some of the track lengths and cuts between tracks just how badly they butchered it for the OST.

This^ was by far the best scene in the movie. It was AMAZING. @Ponyo, think of this gif as you listen to "I’m Goblin".

I take it you haven’t seen the movie yet?

Look up these OST tracks:

"I’m Spider-Man" going straight into "Cold War". That’s a pretty good example for you. You’ve got some of the big themes in there – Spidey’s epic fanfare, Electro’s clarinet theme, and one of the emotional themes.

"You Need Me" is really nice.
"I Chose You" is also really nice, as is "I’m Moving To England".
"I Need To Know" is amazing.
"Sum Total" and "Harry’s Suite" are addictively fascinating…
"We’re Best Friends" is beautiful.
"So Much Anger" is great.
"Still Crazy" is equally great.
"I’m Goblin" is INTENSE. Absolutely incredible.
"The Rest of My Life" – the OST version is almost boring compared to the film version, which is the most heart-breakingly sad cue I think I’ve ever heard. But I was hit pretty hard by the scene in the film itself, so maybe that’s why.
"You’re That Spider Guy" is equally emotional. I tear up when I listen to this one too. But it’s also amazingly triumphant, and the ending is just awesome.

Wait… did I just list the entire deluxe track list? Just listen to the playlist on YouTube.

There’s a reason I mentioned Spotify. YouTube has pulled down the enitire soundtrack before, so I have my bets there.

LOFL!

This^ was by far the best scene in the movie. It was AMAZING.
It Was, But Also The Elcto Playing incy wincy spider!

Alright. You guys suck.

How Did You Know? :awsm: Joks

Mmmm, meh. It’s kinda funny, but I couldn’t help cringe with slight cheese overload when I saw it. :p

Speaking of cheese, any of that pizza left for me?

Speaking of cheese, any of that pizza left for me?

I Liked It, Made Me Laugh And How It Annoyed Spidey "I hate That Song"

Sure you can.

But members can report posts whereever they want, mod or no mod.
PM’s can be reported too.

There are still Admins who have power everywhere.
Even when it comes to reputation comments.

I don’t get why you always take shots when you can and then tell everyone else to drop it.
Smug 200%.

If I had HDD space and downloading wouldn’t take hours and was super fast, then I would!

Or, I could go for an online link, but this deserves to be watched the best quality possible on TV :p

Whatever, gonna get it on my list to watch!

You haven’t seen either? You’re missing out. They’re amazing.

It’s also not a mafia.

People actually die when it comes to the mafia.

Yes, and No. I Am Looking Forward to Spidey Finally Being In The Avngers.

Stop telling people what to do.

Do impose all "mods" have a poser attitude?

Enjoy whatever you all get up to during the night. 😉

Yes I Liked Garfield, More Than Maguire. But Am Also Interested To See How The New One Pans Out.

If they were gonna still do the whole "every dead person is now alive for some strange reason" thing if TASM3 was made, it wouldn’t have worked.

Stop telling people what to do.

Do impose all "mods" have a poser attitude?
THANK YOU!
It’s Not Just Me Who Is Fed Up By This Always Being Bossy Towards Others And Fowl.

Right, guys. Sulley’s off to bed now.

Enjoy whatever you all get up to during the night. 😉

Night Bud!

At least Aunt May is hot. Lol.

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If they were gonna still do the whole "every dead person is now alive for some strange reason" thing if TASM3 was made, it wouldn’t have worked.
Electro never ‘died’.

At least Aunt May is hot. Lol.

First LOL
But Again Marvel Pick Unknown Directors And Actors So They Don’t Have to Pay Huge Wages Plus They Will Be More Willing to Sign These Long Contracts.

I Mean Before Iron Man Downey Jr Was Washed Up, And No Body Wanted Him. Now He Is A Mega Mega Star!

I Mean Before Iron Man Downey Jr Was Washed Up, And No Body Wanted Him. Now He Is A Mega Mega Star!
Well I hope that Marvel will give justice to Spidey, the justice that he deserves.

Seriously, leave everyone else alone.

You joined when there wasn’t an active mod.
Where everyone can treat others how they want.

Haven’t you noticed the regulars have tamed down?
When things happen, they get dealt with.

I didn’t step in as a mod.
I stepped in getting sick of seeing you starting things all the time.

People like you always get upset at decent people.

Seriously, leave everyone alone.

I’m not saying it as a mod. I’m saying it as a human being.
Check yourself.

Seriously, leave me alone.

That Comment I Just Picture Scott Evil In Goldmember Run Off.
Dr.Evil "I Would Like to Point Out, No One Else In My Lair Runs Like A Girl!"

Jokes

Yeah, I never saw The Incredible Hulk, but found it kinda weird when they replaced the original actor. Was it because the film did horrible?

Well I Donno How It Financially, But In My Opinion It Was (And Still Is) The Weakest Marvel Film. It Was A Very Slow Movie Better Than The Eric Banner Version. But Still I Didn’t Like Norton’s Portrayal.

Now Ruffalo’s Banner I Like You Have More Sympathy For Him And He Plays A Perfect Jekyl/Hyde Approach. If You Know What I Mean.

But if anyone reports any of your posts, you can be sure I’ll be on top of it.

If no one laughs at your jokes, it’s time to adjust your sense of humor.

Just remember, Ponyo, you know nothing about anyone else any more than they do you.

Hmmm…

…that’s a matter of opinion. I think he was supposed to have died. That’s not to say they wouldn’t have brought him back – they probably would have, but he exploded from an electricity overdose. I think he did "die".

But those plans on brining back Captain Stacy and Gwen were nuts. I’m glad they never got the chance to do that. But I am incredibly sad Garfield is out. 🙁
@Ponyo – don’t click that^ spoiler if you are going to see the film.

The first Hulk was so horrible.
The second one (Incrdible Hulk) did great.

But Edward Norton is known to be a real ass to people around him. All the time.
You can find lots of dirt on him.
He helped rewrite a lot of stuff for The Incredible Hulk but got denied the credit for it.
He laughed and just became smug.

Now we have Mark Ruffalo. :love:

…that’s a matter of opinion. I think he was supposed to have died. That’s not to say they wouldn’t have brought him back – they probably would have, but he exploded from an electricity overdose. I think he did "die".

But those plans on brining back Captain Stacy and Gwen were nuts. I’m glad they never got the chance to do that. But I am incredibly sad Garfield is out. 🙁
But He Got Sucked Into The Electrical Servers So He Could Be Stored In There, I’m Sure They Would Have Used Oscorp In Bringing Him Back Through The Electrical System

Real funny, guys, real funny.

Oh my gosh, Ponyo! For Heaven’s sake DROP IT. You’re digging yourself further and further into a hole with every post you make.

…that’s a matter of opinion. I think he was supposed to have died. That’s not to say they wouldn’t have brought him back – they probably would have, but he exploded from an electricity overdose. I think he did "die".

But those plans on brining back Captain Stacy and Gwen were nuts. I’m glad they never got the chance to do that. But I am incredibly sad Garfield is out. 🙁
I heard that Electro was supposed to return in TASM3, there was definitely plans for it, and if the film had happened, I wonder if Zimmer and the ‘Magnificent’ would have returned. And if he didn’t, it would have been interesting. I wonder who will score the Spidey reboot.

Proberly Brian Tyler Or One Of The Marvel Compsers, Or Maybe Even Michael Giacchino.. I Donno.

They never showed him getting sucked into the electrical servers. They just showed him exploding from a distance (Gwen’s point of view). But you’re right – Sony (I mean, Oscorp) would have brought him back no doubt.

But Then They More Stuff Set Up.

The Doctor Octopuss Suite, Black Liguid Vile {Venom?}

I don’t know how you guys are making the one I am tonight as my whole persona, I’m probably gonna be better tomorrow, this is just tonight. it tends to happen that people forget the goods and only keep the bad :p

Stop Going On. We Where Having A Civilised Convasation.

It’d be lovely to hear Tyler’s take on a Spidey them, especially Giacchino. Two of my favorites.

Yes. That Would Be Interesting.

No Offensive But No Other Threads Are Spoilred….

I live in the now.

And a successful Spiderman where studios don’t interfere.

Yes 3 Was Good, But Maguire Made Me Cringe. LOL I Had Read Somewhere They Were Making A Venom Film? Based on the Graphic Novel "Venom"

EDIT: Dang, IMDb has like nothing on this film, plot is unknown, unknown year. Dang 🙁

Yes. I Swear I Read An Article About It. I Will Look For It. But It May Have Been Before The Marvel/Sony Deal 🙁

Yeah, last I looked it’s coming out in 2016. But, usually films get pushed back, maybe it’s still on IMDb, I’ll check and get back to ya.

You Legend!

EDIT: Dang, IMDb has like nothing on this film, plot is unknown, unknown year. Dang 🙁

Yes, I Can’t Find the Article I Think It Was Prior to The Deal.

I personally like the film a lot! But they replaced Edward Nortan because he was a pain for Marvel to work with apparently. He wanted final say on the script, and edit of the film, as well as a few more things that he wanted control over. So after that, Marvel said "Bye-Bye"

Also, the Venom movie was part of Sony’s now scrapped ASM franchise. So it went down the toilet along with ASM3 I’m afraid.

It’s not that much of a bother, and it’s only kind to those who haven’t seen the film yet. But if Ponyo doesn’t care, I’ll stop. 🙂

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Right, I really am going to put my iPod down and get into bed now. Goodnight everyone. Glad this thread has revived.

Yeah, the OST version stinks; I listen to this YouTube rip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewgg_doYo_o).

Makes me sad we won’t be getting The Amazing Spider-Man 3 🙁

Not me. As much as I loved the chemistry Garfield and Stone had… ASM2 was really bad.

Venom would be nice to see again.
Venom and Carnage!

Venom and Carnage ROCK.

I personally like the film a lot! But they replaced Edward Nortan because he was a pain for Marvel to work with apparently. He wanted final say on the script, and edit of the film, as well as a few more things that he wanted control over. So after that, Marvel said "Bye-Bye"

Yeah, Norton enjoyed tinkering (i.e. making massive rewrites) with the script and made all sorts of dumb choices. Like this one. (http://www.cracked.com/article_22340_5-movie-stars-who-demanded-hilariously-insane-plot-changes.html)

:cryingbatman: I’m going to on that site forever reading article after article.

That’s one way to kill the whole day. :laugh:

Back next week.

That’s one way to kill the whole day. :laugh:

Back next week.

That’s one way to kill the whole day. :laugh:

Back next week.

The newer articles are sort of lame, read the older ones.

This one is my favorite goofy article (http://www.cracked.com/blog/9-simple-tasks-that-no-one-in-commercial-can-do-right/), and this is my favorite somewhat informative one (http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-ways-marketers-think-were-retarded/) (both written by Seanbaby).

This one is my favorite goofy article (http://www.cracked.com/blog/9-simple-tasks-that-no-one-in-commercial-can-do-right/), and this is my favorite somewhat informative one (http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-ways-marketers-think-were-retarded/) (both written by Seanbaby).

Aw, that’s disappointing to hear.
I really want to archive that site.
I love a lot of the older articles. Spent months reading everything and remembering nothing!

I agree. TASM2 was a collection of comic book cool scenes – let’s have a fight in a plane between Pete’s dad and a bad guy, let’s have a car chase scene straight out of the Blues Brothers, let’s have a secret underground lab in a New York subway, let’s have a bad guy who gets his powers from genetically modified eels (WTF?), etc … – and it doesn’t matter if they make no sense because we’ll just throw Garfield and Stone onscreen, they’re so cute and have so much chemistry and the audience will go all melty and gooey inside and go "awwwhhh, they’re so cute together" that they won’t notice the film makes no sense and was written on the backs of cocktail napkins.

Wrong, boy blunders. We came, we saw, we said "nyet."

And that’s why Sony lost its access to the money printing machine that are super hero movies.

Wrong, boy blunders. We came, we saw, we said "nyet."

And that’s why Sony lost its access to the money printing machine that are super hero movies.

I agree completely. But I still loved it. Does that make any sense?!

I’ve only seen the film once, but I think if I were to see it again, focusing on the parts I knew would be good, I’d probably be able to enjoy it a lot more.

The actors and directors are all talented, the score of course is great, some of the smaller and some of the quieter moments of the film work really well. It’s just all the loudness that was hastily added in is what destroyed the movie, and by extension the franchise.

But the whole movie was a mess behind the scenes. James Horner only scored the first film because he liked director Marc Webb, and refused to do the second after the producers and Sony bigwigs muscled their way into the writing process. And Fox held Webb hostage unless Sony agreed to promote X-Men for free (that’s why that stupid DoFP post-credits scene is there).

That’s another thing that killed ASM2, and is probably the reason it grossed so little: marketing. So much of the film was spoiled through the advertising, so much so that Gwen’s fate was almost entirely given away.

Yep, the entire plot was given away in the trailers. It annoys me so much when studios do that. Like HTTYD 2.

It also annoys me when they stick scenes in the trailers, like ASM2, that don’t make the final cut of the film.

My fault for coming in here, don’t worry guys, not blaming you-

And since it was a spoiler I brought myself into, I don’t feel very bad for it.

Errr you did? What?

My fault for coming in here, don’t worry guys, not blaming you-

And since it was a spoiler I brought myself into, I don’t feel very bad for it.

Sorry.

But if you had read the original comics, you’d know Gwen would never have a happy ending anyway.

At least Peter didn’t accidentally break her neck this time like he did in the comics.

But if you had read the original comics, you’d know Gwen would never have a happy ending anyway.

At least Peter didn’t accidentally break her neck this time like he did in the comics.

I don’t know that it was you who gave away a spoiler just then. Ponyo liked your comment just now where you mentioned Gwen’s fate and then 12 minutes later he says "Ouch!" That’s a delayed reaction right there if that’s what he was actually referring to.

So is her neck broken by the abrupt jerk from Spidey’s web catching her? Or does her head hit the ground? I thought I could hear it hitting the ground, but it also looks like she broke her neck from the sudden arrest of the fall when the webbing caught her.

I’m glad they scrapped the alternate death scene. Damn, that sounded awful.

See that ‘snap’?

In the film it looks more like the impact killed her. I don’t think a neck-snapping sound would have been PG-13 friendly.

And I don’t really read comics. O:

Well that’s ok then. I’ve also never read the comics, so I personally had no interest in seeing these movies up until last October/November when my best friend persuaded me to watch the first one, as he liked it so much. I was quite happy to, and I ended up absolutely LOVING it. But the problem was, I’d already watched the CinemaSins for ASM2, so I then knew the major plot points before I saw the movie. :p

But you can guarantee that if I’d seen the first one and then had Gwen’s death spoiled before I’d seen ASM2, I’d have been very upset and angry.

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In the comics Spidey snaps her neck unintentionally, like so:

See that ‘snap’?

In the film it looks more like the impact killed her. I don’t think a neck-snapping sound would have been PG-13 friendly.

Yeah, I’ve seen that before. But you are aware of the alternate death scene that was in the original showing to the ratings people before the main release, aren’t you?

O_O

No, I’m not! There’s so much of this film tragically left in the cutting room floor! What was it?

No, I’m not! There’s so much of this film tragically left in the cutting room floor! What was it?

As far as I know, everything happens as we already know up to when all three of them are inside the clocktower. But that’s when it got different. Peter is somehow unable to reach Goblin, who grabs Gwen and snaps her neck with his bare hands. He then drops her down the tower and Spidey jumps down after her. Realising she is dead, he screams out in anguish whilst Goblin can be heard laughing from the top of the tower. That’s what the clip of Peter screaming in the trailer was from. Peter then swings back up to the top of the tower and proceeds in beating the sh*t out of Goblin almost to death.

PG-13? I think not. That’s why it was changed, and I for one am jolly glad it was. It’s much better how they did it for the final cut.

But I’d love to see all the deleted scenes for this film just plopped out on some special release.

But I’d love to see all the deleted scenes for this film just plopped out on some special release.

There were a lot of deleted scenes on the bluray I think. But not the alternate death scene. I guess the whole set would have to be rated 15 for that.

I wonder how much, if any, music was scored for these unused scenes…

I wonder how much, if any, music was scored for these unused scenes…

Well, I don’t know about Harry himself knowing, but it was certainly implied that Norman knew and had him under surveillance. And there is that cue title "Oscorp Surveillance / Conspiracy". Sounds like it was written for that scene.

"What about Peter?" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8MykckiOiU&t=1m34s)

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See that ‘snap’?

In the film it looks more like the impact killed her. I don’t think a neck-snapping sound would have been PG-13 friendly.

Actually it’s deliberately ambiguous. There’s just as much evidence for Gwen already being dead when the Goblin threw her from the bridge as there is for the whiplash breaking her neck and killing her. Note how Gwen seems very limp through the whole ordeal and the Goblin seems very certain she is dead.

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There was also a whole subplot about how Harry knew the whole damn time that Peter was Spidey, and he had his house under surveillance.

I wonder how much, if any, music was scored for these unused scenes…

I’m pretty sure the subplot was Harry discovering that his father had Peter under surveillance (as Norman knew Peter was Spidey) but I could be wrong. I’m pretty sure the relevant scenes are on the Blu-Ray anyway as it has considerably more deleted scenes than the DVD, including an alternate ending (I’m 100% certain the "Oscorp has you under surveillance scene is on the Blu-Ray)

This is true.

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I think "Oscorp Surveilance/Conspiracy" is when Menken and the man in black suit are spying on Peter and Harry.

This is true.

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Actually it’s deliberately ambiguous. There’s just as much evidence for Gwen already being dead when the Goblin threw her from the bridge as there is for the whiplash breaking her neck and killing her. Note how Gwen seems very limp through the whole ordeal and the Goblin seems very certain she is dead.

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I’m pretty sure the subplot was Harry discovering that his father had Peter under surveillance (as Norman knew Peter was Spidey) but I could be wrong. I’m pretty sure the relevant scenes are on the Blu-Ray anyway as it has considerably more deleted scenes than the DVD, including an alternate ending (I’m 100% certain the "Oscorp has you under surveillance scene is on the Blu-Ray)

What’s the alternate ending? Richard supposedly turning up at the graveyard? That was insane. There was literally no way he could have survived the plane crash at the beginning.

Some people theorize it was Mysterio playing a trick on Peter. Or something.

That’s a very outlandish theory. Wow.

Now now now, let’s not start Marvel off with clones and Spider-Man again. It didn’t turn out well the last time.

That’s precisely what Sony was going to do with the rest of the Amazing Spider-Man franchise, starting with TASM3. It would’ve been terrible, so I’m glad with the current direction in the MCU, even if It’s questionable at the moment.

You can’t judge how well a director/writer will do on a film by their past credits. The last film the Russo Brothers directed before The Winter Soldier was You, Me And Dupree. Looking at You, Me And Dupree you’d think they’d be a terrible fit for Captain America: The Winter Soldier, yet it ended up as one of the better (if not the best) entries in the MCU and incredibly well directed with Civil War and Infinity War looking the same. Same with Sam Rami. Was a director more known for horror movies a good fit for a superhero film? Turns out he was. I’m not worried about the writers for Spider-Man or the director. Just because they wrote films with comedy that doesn’t suit Spidey, it doesn’t mean all their comedy is like that. And besides, every screenwriter has a few terrible films on their resume. David Benioff (one of the showrunners of Game of Thrones) has a writing credit for X-Men: Origins Wolverine, yet Game of Thrones proves he can write an excellent script. Also you’re assuming that Marvel won’t do what they always do and have other writers look over the script to make sure it’s up to scratch (Joss Whedon looked over the scripts for phase 2 and even ended up rewriting a large part of Thor: The Dark World).

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Alleged "leaked" cast list for the Spider-Man reboot:

Peter Parker/Spider-Man – Tom Holland

Adrian Toomes/The Vulture – Billy Zane

Mac Gargan/Scorpion – Jason Biggs

Aunt May – Marisa Tomei

Tony Stark/Iron Man – Robert Downey Jr

Mary Jane Watson – Rachel G. Fox

Harry Osborne – Timothee Chalamet

Liz Allen – Sami Gale

Flash Thompson – Jacob Latimore

J. Jonah Jameson – Hugh Laurie

Robbie Robertson – Forest Whitaker

Betty Brant – Miranda Cosgrove

Ned Leeds – Tyler Posey

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Alleged "leaked" cast list for the Spider-Man reboot:

Peter Parker/Spider-Man – Tom Holland

Adrian Toomes/The Vulture – Billy Zane

Mac Gargan/Scorpion – Jason Biggs

Aunt May – Marisa Tomei

Tony Stark/Iron Man – Robert Downey Jr

Mary Jane Watson – Rachel G. Fox

Harry Osborne – Timothee Chalamet

Liz Allen – Sami Gale

Flash Thompson – Jacob Latimore

J. Jonah Jameson – Hugh Laurie

Robbie Robertson – Forest Whitaker

Betty Brant – Miranda Cosgrove

Ned Leeds – Tyler Posey
Again, I suppose. But with the filmmakers you mentioned, at least they had plenty of work beforehand. The guys who are writing, as well the director? Don’t think they’ve done much. However, anything is possible, so I’ll reserve proper judgement until the movie gets released two years from now.

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Also, there’s no way they’ve cast all the characters at this point of time. Considering it’s still in development, I’m pretty sure they haven’t decided on which characters are going to appear in the film.Who the hell is Ned Leeds?

Peter Parker/Spider-Man – Tom Holland

Adrian Toomes/The Vulture – Billy Zane

Mac Gargan/Scorpion – Jason Biggs

Aunt May – Marisa Tomei

Tony Stark/Iron Man – Robert Downey Jr

Mary Jane Watson – Rachel G. Fox

Harry Osborne – Timothee Chalamet

Liz Allen – Sami Gale

Flash Thompson – Jacob Latimore

J. Jonah Jameson – Hugh Laurie

Robbie Robertson – Forest Whitaker

Betty Brant – Miranda Cosgrove

Ned Leeds – Tyler Posey
Billy Zane As Vulture.. Ain’t He The Guy From Titanic?
Hugh Laurie…Hm I Donno It Does Not Seem Like A Film/Role He Would Take.(Like Whn He Was Supposed To Be The Villain In The Robocop Remake) Hope So Tho.

Good Old Tony/Downy Jr 😀

Maybe Its More Of A Wish List…

A reporter for the daily bugle who’s romantically involved with Betty Brant. He was originally the first Hobgoblin before it was retconned (although Leeds is still the Hobgoblin in some adaptations). His presence in the cast list here implies that Marvel plan on having the Hobgoblin in a future sequel.

there’s no way they’ve cast all the characters at this point of time. Considering it’s still in development, I’m pretty sure they haven’t decided on which characters are going to appear in the film.

The leaked cast list states most of the actors are still in talks or in final negotiations.

Well I Don’t Know More Than Half Of Them LOL. But I Think It Will Be Okay. At Least By The Sounds Its A Different Villain. I Was Starting to Get Bored With Goblin.

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Well yeah, I know that XD 😛

I Personally Am Open to Anything. 😀

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Not that we know of. I personally believe it is in the top trading circles. But who knows how long it’ll take before it gets down to us plebs?!

Give it a few years. They’ll leak in time.

The day the sessions leak will be a very good day.

The day the sessions leak will be a very good day.

James, you are having a laugh at our expense, right? Or did you recently receive a massive blow to the head?

I’m hoping it’s no head injury. I’m concerned.

Look, do I enjoy the movie? Yes. Is it a bad movie? Yes. Did it kill any hopes of a franchise? Yes. But is it "superb filmmaking"? No.

But you have to remember he’s a virgin compared to all the things we’ve seen. He’s slowly getting there, and in due time he’ll realize what a crapfest this movie is. Hell, even Transformers (all 4) is a crapfest but I fucking love those movies.

As for Transformers, you’re better man than I, Gunga Din. I stopped after the first film. The only good thing about the movies is Jablonsky’s scores.

Yes, at least they have his beautiful work as their saving grace. As for the films themselves, it’s my childhood brought to life. Larger-than-life, actually.

James, you are having a laugh at our expense, right? Or did you recently receive a massive blow to the head?

…you have to remember he’s a virgin compared to all the things we’ve seen. He’s slowly getting there, and in due time he’ll realize what a crapfest this movie is.

Very funny, chaps. But I’m afraid you aren’t looking at it the way I am. All you’re looking at is what the average movie-goer is looking at: the surface, and nothing more. Have either of you studied film production? You better believe me when I say there is some superb filmmaking in ASM2. I’m not talking about the writing or the acting – I’m talking about the production. The cinematography. The mise-en-sc???ne. The editing. The sound design. The colour palette. The costume design. The score. The special effects. The set design.

So please – don’t call me ignorant when it comes to filmmaking. Contrary to what it may seem like, I do know what I’m talking about. You both know very well what I think of the writing and plot of ASM2 in general. I think it’s a mess. I’ve said so many times before. I’ve said how I was very disappointed by the film from a mucked-up story perspective. But implying that I don’t know what I’m talking about just because I haven’t seen some cult classics simply isn’t true. I’ve seen a ton of films and since the start of my BAHons degree in Film Production I’ve seen a good few more and done proper film analysis.

The guys actually making the movie seemed like highly competent people; if only those damn execs hadn’t stumbled in halfway and changed everything, who knows what film we might have gotten in terms of plot?

But yes you are right in the fact that there’s so much more to a film than writing, plot and everything else that made this film a mess. I definitely overlooked those things here. But that’s not to say I’ve also overlooked them on other films. Say for example, films I actually really enjoy yet get berated. And I can relate in the slightest. I went to school. I did bts stuff. And that was all technical stuff. There are so many elements to putting a film together, it’s ridiculous.

Apology accepted. I know you never mean to actually offend people. Well, most people. 😉

But the whole "you’ve never seen anything compared to the rest of the world" thing is beginning to get kinda tiresome.

But yes you are right in the fact that there’s so much more to a film than writing, plot and everything else that made this film a mess. I definitely overlooked those things here. But that’s not to say I’ve also overlooked them on other films. Say for example, films I actually really enjoy yet get berated. And I can relate in the slightest. I went to school. I did bts stuff. And that was all technical stuff. There are so many elements to putting a film together, it’s ridiculous.

Yep, and it’s not just the practical side of things such as cameras/lighting/sound/etc. There’s so much creative and artistic input for a film besides the writing, especially the cinematography and the mise-en-sc???ne. And the order and way in which shots and scenes are cut together in the editing. It all comes down to a fundamental knowledge of how the human mind works and what the best ways are of taking advantage of that knowledge.

But the whole "you’ve never seen anything compared to the rest of the world" thing is beginning to get kinda tiresome.

Nah, only those who have it coming do I offend.

And I know sometimes I can go a little too far when poking fun. Sue me, I’m human. Or am I a robot? :awsm:

Or both…?

:awsm:

My bad.

I agree that ASM2 is a good looking film, very good looking. But coming from the world of print before transitioning into video the script is my first priority. If the script is a good one I will forgive a lot on the production side and cut them some slack on the camera work, but not much. Same with editing but again not much. However, if the script is weak or lazy or poorly constructed I don’t care how good it looks. (Transformers looks great but the scripts are utter rubbish and Bay edits them like he’s a 12 year old boy with an on line porn addiction who’s just chain slammed a six pack of Red Bull.)

Which is why I stopped with the first film. (The exception are the films whose ineptitude have achieved a transcendent state like Cobra or Maximum Overdrive.)

So, how’s the course coming? Enjoying it? You planning on going into film production or some associated field once you’ve graduated from Monster U?

I guess I lucked out that my favorite film happened to win the Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay – Almost Famous. To me, it is a near-perfect film. Now that I’m talking about it, I may put it on when I go to bed in a little bit.
Never been able to relate more to a film ever than when Philip Seymour Hoffman uttered these lines:

http://i.imgur.com/KqnnYTm.gif
"Never take it seriously. If you never take it seriously, you never get hurt. If you never get hurt, you always have fun. And if you ever get lonely, just go to the record store…..and visit your friends".

*deep sigh*

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So, how’s the course coming? Enjoying it? You planning on going into film production or some associated field once you’ve graduated from Monster U?

It’s going ok, thanks. We’ve been divided up into groups and I’ve ended up being nominated as director for both short films my groups need to make by the end of this semester. One is a short documentary and the other is a 5-minute drama. So it’s up to me to do a lot of work before we begin filming either project. I’m really excited about the drama – I think my idea has the potential to really work well, even if it’s only five minutes long. I managed to successfully pitch the idea to my crew and after a lengthy discussion they bought it.

After graduation, I’m looking at becoming an independent filmmaker. I’ll be looking for work, as well as being self-employed making my own films. The more contacts the better. We’ll see where it goes. 🙂

*deep sigh*

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It’s going ok, thanks. We’ve been divided up into groups and I’ve ended up being nominated as director for both short films my groups need to make by the end of this semester. One is a short documentary and the other is a 5-minute drama. So it’s up to me to do a lot of work before we begin filming either project. I’m really excited about the drama – I think my idea has the potential to really work well, even if it’s only five minutes long. I managed to successfully pitch the idea to my crew and after a lengthy discussion they bought it.

In regards to TASM, take Elsa’s advice James, and just let it go.

The more pre-planning you can do, the better. Also, shoot a good quantity of b-roll and don’t forget the wide shots, close-ups and extreme close-ups. (If you can manage an overheard shot or two get them.) The aforementioned will save your sanity when it comes time to edit.

Then post your final product on line. The more eyes that see it . . .

I like to dream this dream too. 🙂

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I like to dream this dream too. 🙂

James, on this topic you’re becoming the leper picking at his own scabs. Keep this up and we’re going to have to mount an ASM2 intervention.

Or exorcism.

I command by the power of Zimmer and cast out you demons of mediocrity! Begone and infest the next Michael Bay film!

Maybe Emma or Andrew can officiate the proceedings.

Wrong thread, poo head.

Not a chance, I think they broke up. Or maybe they’re back together again. I don’t know.

In Sully’s mind they’re still together: Pete’s teaching at a magnet school and joined the Avengers while Gwen’s running OsCorp as CEO and President. And Captain Stacey’s still alive. (He was dead but then he got better.)

The value of a score is entirely subjective. Sully places a high value on it and would have a joygasm, probably followed by a stroke, if TASM2 ever surfaced. DAK would probably mutter "it’s about god-damned time" and others on this forum, especially the League of Anti-Zimmers would shrug and go "meh." The "value" of a score has nothing to do with the speed with which it is released. There’s no central authority in charge of making value judgments on the merits of a score and when they are released. Somebody or somebodies have it and will decide to release it or not release it.

And while we await its release or non-release, go back and refresh your grammar and writing skills. Or failing that, find your English teachers and slap them.

Yeah, that’s why we got the Prisoner of Azkaban sessions.

Oh wait…

Because somehow, yet again, Zimmer has touched my heart-strings with his music. Parts of the ASM2 score (certain melodies, chord progressions, and orchestrations) are pricelessly beautiful. Most people who hate on it are those who haven’t actually given it any time. All they’ve listened to are the synth-based, heavy Electro motifs and they think that Zimmer has gone nuts and reverted to dubstep instead of composing. If you give it time, and actually listen to the entire score, it’s worth so much more.

But you’re right – I probably would have a stroke if it surfaced here.

The value of a score is entirely subjective. Sully places a high value on it and would have a joygasm, probably followed by a stroke, if TASM2 ever surfaced. DAK would probably mutter "it’s about god-damned time" and others on this forum, especially the League of Anti-Zimmers would shrug and go "meh." The "value" of a score has nothing to do with the speed with which it is released. There’s no central authority in charge of making value judgments on the merits of a score and when they are released. Somebody or somebodies have it and will decide to release it or not release it.

And while we await its release or non-release, go back and refresh your grammar and writing skills. Or failing that, find your English teachers and slap them.

Thanks for the input ill definitely keep that in mind 🙂

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though in all fairness I just wanted to get this thread going again. Kill grave i didn’t get asked to be insulted, however I was in a rush when typing and I really don’t care much about grammar in the sense that rereading my post, I only notice a few spelling errors and lack of periods and capitals, I didn’t ask to get insulted so please keep the insults to yourself, theres a difference between criticism and insults so i’d appreciate you not insulting me for no apparent reason.

But you’re right – I probably would have a stroke if it surfaced here.

Hey Sully, what are the tracks you’re looking forward to hearing the most? 🙂

A fair few:

The film version of the opening cue
The plane fight
The Spidey montage
Part II of the final Electro fight
The film version of Gwen’s death

And lots, lots more.

You?

No Lockdown! Don’t give up hope!

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The film version of the opening cue
The plane fight
The Spidey montage
Part II of the final Electro fight
The film version of Gwen’s death

And lots, lots more.

You?

My main cue i’m seeking are as follows heck if I have just the first one I’m good lol

opening logos, when richard kills the spiders
peter remembers, flashback of his parents
spidey montage, when gwen breaks up with him
Oscorp surveillance, when harry tells peter that oscorp was spying on him
film version of the underground train station
the D train, when he finds coins in his fathers calculator
as well as the film version of gwens funeral and last but not least the unreleased version of There he is on the soundtrack. (It can be heard in the beginning of the times square promo

Hopefully kill grave doesn’t massacre me for my grammar again lol 🙂

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No Lockdown! Don’t give up hope!

https://31.media.tumblr.com/c6c0e973e8f4eeb0df88395fead6af0f/tumblr_n47aykuv5K1r0s8vro3_500.gif

We must never give up, always have hope

Really? How come?

He subscribes to a delusional belief system?

No one has the sessions; get over it already.

OR maybe because somebody has it and will eventually leak it? The popular demand of this is going to remain until the day it comes out so people will have hopes.

Riiiiiiiight. The movie has been out for more than a year and fans have demanded the release of the complete score since day one. So, suddenly, after all this time, the owner(s) of the complete score are going to cave and release it?

That’s called magical thinking, believing something will happen simply because you wish it. And the world doesn’t work like that. The score will get released whenever its holders decide to release it and wish will not speed up the progress.

It’s good to be optimistic. 🙂

That piece of puffery would have been so much more stirring if only you’d spelled "optimistic" correctly.

W/e dude.

Seriously, Killgrave, back off a bit, would you? Just chill a little and try not to be so witty/clever/above everyone else. You’re not the best thing since sliced bread (and no, don’t make a joke out of that – you know what’s meant by that phrase). You actually come across as quite offensive regularly, but I do my best to ignore it most of the time. I’m not trying to cause a verbal war here – just speaking what I’ve been thinking for a while. I’d really appreciate it if you’d take it to heart.

Well, his name is Killgrave, so…

Owwww! I believed I have been spanked.

Please, sir, make I have another?

But seriously, Sully you are right. I am an incredibly sarcastic person, both online and in the real world. (And I am most definitely not the greatest thing since sliced bread. Now, processed cheese spread . . . ) And it comes with a cost. For example, tonight it’s just me. And my high powered telescope. Or as I like to call it "my home entertainment center."

But somethings are, in the immortal words of Hall and Oates, better left unsaid. So, I will endeavor, to tamp down the sarcasm. I mean, there’s even heated rhetoric going around and I should not add to it.

Just one favor: please, everyone, engage spellcheck. It’s not that difficult. Work with me on this one.

Yh…and the scores to those 3 were better aswell… 😉

Still a bit confused as to why 3 never had an official release. May have to do with the Danny Elfman cues and the uncredited secondary composers replicating it.

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I miss Tobey McGuire.

I definitely appreciate his portrayal Peter Parker. I relate to him so much in comparison to the all over the place portrayal of Garfield.

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Lol. Everyone Getting uptight over this album never ceases to make me laugh.

That’s not very kind. As you can see, there are many fans of this score. It may have gotten crazy at points, but we’re very appreciate of what we have regardless.

This whole thread is not very kind.
That was the point.

Well thanks a lot, Sparks. I suppose you’ll be shutting it down next?

:laugh: Don’t flatter yourself.

I’m not mod here.
I find what goes on here is comical.
The incessant "wishing" and "hoping". Probably where Killgrave is coming from with his banters on some of the posts here.

I think the few of us have just been stating the drama that comes up over this score.

Sure, sure, there’s a lot that are "nice" and "soft" people.
But since it’s stuff not widely available, something always happens to make all this sound like an even more desperate crusade.

Mr Gold and Killgrave are onto something.

I come in and suddenly you single me out?
Grow up, child.

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I’m not mod here, and you know that.

So go ahead and draw your guns for drama.
It’s well deserved here, imHo.

My Point Was Not Kind Your Opinion. My Point Was Correct. You Argue Over A Soundtrack You Do Not Have, Or Argue Becuase Its Not Rreleased Yet.
It May Well Never Be Posted. Be Greatful For What You Do Have.

Its Like Watching A Group Of Pirates Kill Each Other Over A Very Small Chest Of Treasure, And To Me Its A Huge Laugh.

I actually didn’t know that. So pfft.

I though the point was supposed to be to talk about a score from a movie. Was I lied to?

PLEASE! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!!…….. I beg of you!!! Have mercy!!!! :laugh:

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We need a nice Captain Teague gif.

Why do I still feel like you are just Kevin Spacey sitting behind a desk in front of a computer just typin it up? :p

Edit: Although I realize a lot of you probably feel like I’m George Costanza doing the same thing, just typin it up! 😉 :laugh:

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On the other hand, I don’t know what everyone is complaining about if we already have Garage’s complete version (Thread 178380). Is that dude still around or is he slowly becoming the stuff of legends?

At least he was upfront about it this time.

Totally agree with you on this one! 😉

A fair few:

The film version of the opening cue

Is that the track "There He Is", only slower in the movie version? I don’t understand why they changed the tempo on the official released version.. I like the slower version – it improves the tone of the movie alot better while the CD version just rushes through it and kills the mood.. :/

I believe they had several versions of there he is. There was one version in the Times Square promo and then you had the album version which is used at the very end of the end credits its the suite mixed with Cold War and the electro track. So "there he is" is a separate track in its own and it was used at the very end of the credits however I felt that that made the soundtrack for me. I just wish we could get the other versions maybe they’re in the sessions who knows the film version of the opening cue if only that was in the album the original Spiderman soundtrack with James Horner had the main titles I don’t know why this one chose to leave out

Is that the track "There He Is", only slower in the movie version? I don’t understand why they changed the tempo on the official released version.. I like the slower version – it improves the tone of the movie alot better while the CD version just rushes through it and kills the mood.. :/

Yeah I thought so as well, on my personal opinion i thought his score for this movie out did anything he did for the dark knight trilogy, simply because he was doing new and different things. 2 years later and now since he’s retired from superhero movies, I’m hoping this score will see the light of day, So everyone can appreciate one of his last scores behind Dawn of justice.

Yeah, and the amazing spider man 2 was a nice mix of electronic music with actual orchestra, it was very playful which I loved. But unfortunately no one has the sessions even 2 years later, its just a shame that no one can appreciate the score beyond how its heard in the film, I feel whenever applicable to those sacred individuals in the trading circles that even the complete or sessions of dawn of justice might even get shared before TASM2 ever sees the light of day., just a wild and ambitious guess.

I hope whoever they replace him with continues to use his themes

It’s probably going to be Junkie XL who replaces him. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was partly the reason Zimmer brought Holkenberg on board for BvS so he could groom Holkenberg to be his replacement for future DC films.

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That’s what I think as well. Tom will probably stick to the Justice League. On the other hand, talking about future DC films, we have Steven Price, who recently joined the gang. I’m pretty sure, Suicide Squad will not be his one and only score for the DC universe (and I hope it won’t sound like Gravity, because everything Steven does, has a little Gravity pattern in it). Perhaps he’ll do Affleck’s Batman as well? What is more, knowing the fact that Affleck has already done two movies with Harry Gregson-Williams’ music, why not him? I doubt it, though. I just cannot imagine that sound… But we never know! So, we kind of have multiple choices here. I wouldn’t want to see the whole DC universe given to Tom Holkenborg, because he tends to repeat himself more than one could think. While listening through the BvS, especially action stuff, I kept hearing a mix of Run All Night (!) & Fury Road.

Back to Marvel: if, by any chance, they gave the new Spider-Man to Tom, that would be a disaster, in my opinion… Steve Jabs v Henry Jackman would be my top choices.

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That’s what we all want. And yet, it happens rarely, if the composer is replaced. Motifs? Sometimes. But themes? Unfortunately.

I’m hoping James Newton Howard will be scoring Spider-Man. Failing that, Alexandre Desplat would be a satisfactory choice or maybe Craig Armstrong (his Incredible HUlk score is amazing and he deserves another go at a superhero film).

The cue names were on the ASCAP database. The full score was among the many things stolen by the people who hacked into Sony in 2014, though they only ever released a file list.

Also, cue lists leak all the time, but not necessarily the scores themselves. Hence why we have the cue list for Pixar’s Cars by Randy Newman but the sessions still haven’t leaked, much to my frustration.

Well, if they already hacked Sony, at least they could share, not keeping for themselves 😉 :doc:

Never underestimate the power of a private gloat.

(Nener, nener, I have something you don’t have.)

Hey, if you want to email North Korea, be my guest.

I understand Gitmo is lovely this time of year.

P.S. And orange is the new black, after all.

(Nener, nener, I have something you don’t have.)

What? So you have the score? It’s that, what you have that I don’t?

JNH doing Spider-Man would be SO awesome, but my preferred composer for this new Homecoming movie would be David Arnold. I mean, this guy is insanely talented, specially doing action blockbuster films, but he hasn’t done one since, what, Narnia 3, on 2010? With this whole lot of super-hero movies coming on the next years, he could very well do at least one – my personal picks being Homecoming and the upcoming Flash movie.

Isn’t Giacchino doing Strange? :eye:

If he ever scores a crossover maybe he can bring the so-far lacking musical continuity the MCU movies are screaming for.

Speaking of Spidey – I really liked Jackman’s theme from Civil War. "A New Recruit" is one of the best tracks on the OST. So part of me is really wanting him to score it. I know Homecoming will probably be a somewhat lighter-hearted movie compared with Civil War, but Jackman’s no stranger to that genre.

I guess whoever does score it will just create yet another musical theme for the web slinger on the big screen. How many have we had so far, four? Five?

I hope to god whoever does the score gives me a theme to work with. All efforts previous were something I could hum.

https://youtu.be/mXvg0UvI480?list=PLhqqvo3y1qZ1srt0PRvAf_OE-rgsMT6qe&t=86

And its use as he battles Falcon and the Winter Soldier:

https://youtu.be/BGD_THHYTys?list=PLhqqvo3y1qZ1srt0PRvAf_OE-rgsMT6qe&t=152

It’s a small theme, maybe a little elusive (I only discovered he did a Spider-Man theme by the second time I watched the movie).

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Giacchino is already doing Dr. Strange, and he did the new Marvel logo. Now, with these rumors of him doing Spider-Man: Homecoming, does that indicate a new "friendship" between him and Marvel? Like the one they were trying to build with Brian Tyler until the whole mess on the Age of Ultron scoring process? Gee, I hope so. I mean, Giacchino is one of the best right now, but he hasn’t done a super-hero movie since The Incredibles.

If he ever scores a crossover maybe he can bring the so-far lacking musical continuity the MCU movies are screaming for.

Speaking of Spidey – I really liked Jackman’s theme from Civil War. "A New Recruit" is one of the best tracks on the OST. So part of me is really wanting him to score it. I know Homecoming will probably be a somewhat lighter-hearted movie compared with Civil War, but Jackman’s no stranger to that genre.

I guess whoever does score it will just create yet another musical theme for the web slinger on the big screen. How many have we had so far, four? Five?

I agree with that completely, I remember hearing Jackmans score to Kick Ass and thinking that he would be perfect for Spider-Man. I’m hoping he sticks around for Homecoming. I honestly don’t know who else they could get. Speaking of Strange I was sad to hear that Christopher Young wasn’t scoring that film, I remeber them saying he would when derrickson was first hired.

It’s a Zimmer score. It’s valuable no matter what people think of the movie. And BTW, it’s not hated by everyone.

Your reasoning is faulty. If the movie is so hated why would that hate then motivate people to circulate the score? If anything, it should demotivate people who tend to distance themselves from things they dislike. Plus a score’s value isn’t necessarily tied to the film’s popularity. Priest was a terrible movie but listener’s loved Young’s score. It took a while but we finally got the sessions to that one.

The "complete" score to ASM2 will get here when it gets here. No sooner, no later.

Tell me about it, I’ve even put my hat out there offering to pay any reasonable amount of cash for it but no one either has it, or they do and are not interested which is totally fine. 🙂 lol hopefully this can come out before the end of this year.

2017 is the year of spider-man, we have the homecoming movie, a new animated solo series, and spider-man ps4 its gonna be fucking epic, are you excited?

No.

C’mon ManRay. Not even a little? It’ll be the year of John Wick 2.

It’ll show up eventually. Might take years.

Because no one has it.

Please read this thread carefully. Then think about the request you just wrote.

THE INFAMOUS SPIRIT OF THE MILLENNIUM RING!!!!

Notice in the trailers for the upcoming Spider-Man it’s branded Marvel, no mention of Sony until the end of trailer in the lower right hand corner. Blink and you’ll miss it. Guess after screwing up the Spidey and Ghostbusters reboots, the Sony name is a wee bit toxic in the fan community.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/andrew-garfield-interviewed-silence-hacksaw-ridge-959559

I think even Sony is aware of this now. When’s the last time they had a solid blockbuster hit?

It must be willing.

:laugh: Nah, they’re screwed.

If Warner gets Bond, I’d bet Chris Nolan gets the job to direct Bond’s premiere outing. Nolan is a fan.

Tony Stark builds robot husks in the desert for him to ride in; Peter has never been anywhere near that level.

Apparently in today’s comics he owns a corporation and rakes in the dough…. eh.

First he develops an adhesive that successfully mimics the tensile strength of spider webbing. A fluid that can be compressed by a factor of several hundred into small containers that fit on his wrist. (BTW, there’s an entire branch of science known as fluid mechanics.) Not only is the adhesive strong as spider webbing but it dissolves after an hour.

I’ve always thought Parker should have patented that invention. Would have made him a fortune. The super glue before super glue.

Second, there’s the web shooters. He designs a delivery system that can launch the webbing over several hundred feet and in a variety of patterns: narrow, wide, even web balls. Invents it in his bedroom.

Third, he designs a costume that doesn’t impede his ability to cling to walls. Even when he’s wearing his Spidey boots. Plus mirrored eyepieces and remember Parker did this back in the early 60s when there was no such thing as mylar coatings. (NASA invented it for the Moon program.)

All this as a high school student. No Stark fortune or lab to fall back on.

You couldn’t do it, I couldn’t do it, but Parker did. So, yeah, that makes him a genius.

This was actually going to be a plot point in The Spectacular Spider-Man TV show (highly recommended) before it was cancelled. I don’t know if the comics ever did something like this, but the reason Parker never patented them was because all that equipment was derived from pre-existing OsCorp technology.

I much prefer the idea the Raimi films had, where the webbing comes from inside him. It makes more sense. Building his web-shooters is like the only time that Peter is shown to be any kind of engineer; all his other skills rest in chemistry, biology, etc.

If you carry that idea to its logical conclusion, Peter would spin webs out of his abdomen or his ass. A spider’s spinneret is located at the rear of its abdomen, not in its appendages.

I like science nerd Parker. Seeing intelligence portrayed on screen, especially in science, is, IMO, always a good thing.

Topher Grace as Eddie Brock ? Don’t make me fucking laugh.

Throw Carnage in there, and for once, only once, please
actually rub those 2 Braincells that those Studios have together.

Rate it R, boom, 1 Billion pulled in at the Box Office guaranteed.

You’d need a unique take on the character a la Deadpool. Look at the Hulk or Punisher films. On paper, each one looks like a home run. On film, Hulk smashing or Punisher ix-naying a bunch of bad guys gets old fast. Your character needs depth.

Venom could very easily turn into "Venom smash!" in the typical Hollywood hands. You’d need a very good motion capture actor, screenwriters with the right touch and a director who understands the material.

The symbiote returns to Earth and travels to Ravencroft to reunite with Eddie Brock,
who then escapes as Venom. He is ordered by Dormammu, to whom the symbiote owes its earthly return,
to steal a machine from Stark Enterprises capable of releasing Dormammu from his own far-off dimension.
When Venom battles Spider-Man and War Machine, he is easily defeated by the two heroes.
Baron Mordo and Dormammu help Eddie Brock’s cell-mate Cletus Kassidy bond with a symbiote,
who later dubs himself Carnage. Carnage then assists Venom in his task to retrieve the technology
from Stark Enterprises, though when Carnage attempts to destroy Spider-Man, Venom attacks him,
telling him that the wall-crawler is Venom’s and Venom’s only.

When Eddie refuses to continue to work for Dormammu, Carnage is considered sufficient to collect life-force
which is essential for Dormammu to enter Earth. Carnage kidnaps Dr. Ashley Kafka, whom Eddie has fallen in love with.
Eddie then reluctantly teams with Iron Man and Spider-Man to save her.
They are forced to send Carnage as well as Dormammu into the other dimension, as it appears he has formed
a link between himself and Carnage. Carnage, unwilling to leave Earth alone, attempts to drag Ashley with him,
though Venom sacrifices himself for the woman he loves.

This has everything an (Anti)Superhero Movie needs, uneasy Teamups, a Love Story that ends in heroic Sacrifice,
thus overcoming one’s Nature, A Catastrophe of potentially worldending Proportions, Iron Man, War Machine,
Venom, Carnage, Spiderman, it’s all there.

You’d need a very good motion capture actor, screenwriters with the right touch and a director who understands the material.

And why does this seem to be almost impossible for Hollywood to realize ?

Jesus, their Heads seem to be perpetually stuck up their Asses for all Eternity.

Could work but bringing Carnage into the mix might be symbiote villain overload. Too similar in appearance and abilities. I’d leave Carnage for a sequel because you’d need both Spidey and Venom to bring him down.

And why does this seem to be almost impossible for Hollywood to realize ?

Jesus, their Heads seem to be perpetually stuck up their Asses for all Eternity.

Deadpool took ten plus years to make. If it hadn’t been for the "leaked" footage it might never have been realized. Hollywood is notoriously risk adverse.

("What, a Fred Kruger look-alike as the hero? What, he breaks the fourth wall and makes fun of superheroes? What, he kills people, talks filth and it’s Rated R? Get out of my office!")

Now, Hollywood is all, "OOH, Rated R superheroes? Gimme, gimme, gimme."

They are significantly different, but i guess you’re right,
People are Idiots. They need a complete Rubbish Movie,
so they won’t get shellshocked by the Followup Heap of Thrash.

*cough*BvS*cough*JusticeLeague*cough*

Deadpool took ten plus years to make. If it hadn’t been for the "leaked" footage it might never have been realized. Hollywood is notoriously risk adverse.

("What, a Fred Kruger look-alike as the hero? What, he breaks the fourth wall and makes fun of superheroes? What, he kills people, talks filth and it’s Rated R? Get out of my office!")

Now, Hollywood is all, "OOH, Rated R superheroes? Gimme, gimme, gimme."

Oh, did i never mention it? I hated Deadpool.

Yeah, they are different but we’re talking about America whose students are 27th in math and 20th in science and most people’s ability to apply critical thinking is utter rubbish. (45% of Americans and more than 50% of millennials think astrology is a science.)

Plus, thanks to modern tech people don’t pay fucking attention. To anything. (Not the tech’s fault, it’s the user’s.)

As for Deadpool, I like that it got made and made a ton at the box office. Perhaps its success paves the way for other R superhero flicks. I saw it once and once is enough.

Plus, thanks to modern tech people don’t pay fucking attention. To anything. (Not the tech’s fault, it’s the user’s.)

As for Deadpool, I like that it got made and made a ton at the box office. Perhaps its success paves the way for other R superhero flicks. I saw it once and once is enough.

Logan wil be R rated and that’s been commented as a direct result of Deadpool doing so well. So it’s had some effect.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qIFBkBjobE

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9irHhGgy6k

They’ll most likely leak when, like Man Of Steel, all the "traders" have it or enough people have it so it has no more value for private trade. Assuming it’s even out there that is.

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/THE-AMAZING-SPIDERMAN-II-2CD-COMPLETE-SCORE-LIMITED-EDITION-HANS-ZIMMER-/112292740361?hash=item1a252b3d09

This?

Definitely fake

After a quick investigation I found out this a very limited release lol, it was a thing..

Point taken

This?

If I’m right, this is the 2-Disc deluxe edition of the score. Disc 1 is the score. Disc 2 is all the songs written for the film and includes 4 bonus score tracks (The Electro Suite, The Harry Suite, Cold War, No Place Like Home). This is the version of the score I own. It was limited because Sony didn’t plan on manufacturing many more (although there’s still a lot out there which either shows they did make more or it just didn’t sell well).

The fact the track listing is the James Horner score suggests to me this is fake. Or that you’ll receive the 2 Disc Deluxe edition instead of the complete score.

This?

If I’m right, this is the 2-Disc deluxe edition of the score. Disc 1 is the score. Disc 2 is all the songs written for the film and includes 4 bonus score tracks (The Electro Suite, The Harry Suite, Cold War, No Place Like Home). This is the version of the score I own. It was limited because Sony didn’t plan on manufacturing many more (although there’s still a lot out there which either shows they did make more or it just didn’t sell well).

The fact the track listing is the James Horner score suggests to me this is fake. Or that you’ll receive the 2 Disc Deluxe edition instead of the complete score.

We already knew.

Yes, do you know how dumb the hoarders can be, no matter how obvious it is?

You’re welcome.

I found that interesting as it makes me wonder what some of the songs could actually sound like in their entirety. I like the cue where peter and harry are at oscorp asking for spiders blood.

Epic imagery to describe my emotions to this lol. 3 years later and still no clue if its around in the trading circles or if anyone has it 🙁

I think its more accurate to say the romance between Emma and Andrew is what makes the movie special to you because the film as a whole, sucks. Black hole style.

is this the actual recording sessions? http://www.filmtracks.com/comments/titles/amazing_spiderman2/index.cgi?read=51&expand=1 :/

and.. what is this http://www.rarescores.info/index/Other/H/Hans%20Zimmer/Special/Sessions.htm
"The Amazing Spider-man 2 Partial sessions"? huh?

is this the actual recording sessions? http://www.filmtracks.com/comments/titles/amazing_spiderman2/index.cgi?read=51&expand=1 :/

and.. what is this http://www.rarescores.info/index/Other/H/Hans%20Zimmer/Special/Sessions.htm
"The Amazing Spider-man 2 Partial sessions"? huh?

Ten cues leaked out a couple of years back which is what ‘partial sessions’ refers to. That filmtracks link is bull, they don’t have anything like it.

It’s happening. (Thread 221475)

It does not have the film version of the opening logos. Specifically the part with the marvel logo and gears, up to the scene where richard and mary leave peter. Man tho this score is awesome some tracks are different which further indicate the cut and paste notion for this score and the film version of the funeral should make many happy. I just recently lost my entire collection due to a hard rive failure and this really made my christmas.

Ah, yes, we’re missing 1M01A in the slower tempo with some differences in the intro. Aside from that I’d say we’ve got every cue represented. It’s possible more might leak out some day – after all, that ten-cue leak had to come from somewhere, and there are alternates on there.

Yes indeed apart from the opening logos (my favourite track) and the film version for roosevelt station, We have the gist of everything and a few bonus snippets. However there are more snippets out there for example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qIFBkBjobE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9irHhGgy6k

I managed to combine all the cues from the OST and 10 cue leak and there was a total of 68 tracks, I’m now figuring out how to tag them for a ultimate complete version. I am totally grateful that this is finally here. I’m just a completist and just wanted to specify the few things missing. 🙂

Yeah I was afraid of that lol, We are also missing the farewell/osborn in bed scene track. I wonder if anyone can make that track using the Harry suite? I’ve compiled everything from all releases and tagged them based on the list on HZ.com I have a total of 74 tracks including alternates and album mixes. This is how I perceived everything, its not perfect but its the best for now. Once I finalize everything i’ll post a tracklist maybe someone on here can use that as a guide and combine them while fixing the long silences and uneven audio of the original 10 track leak and soundtrack with the complete score. Who knows maybe some talented shriners will make a film mix. Man tho i hate that it’s on again track so much lol.

I changed the titles to a few tracks to match those on the list on HZ.com

The tracks taken off the deluxe edition soundtrack have the original album title beside the new tags.

The cues from the 10 session leak are melded with the complete score following their slates. I added in the flying montage from the leak due to the different slate code otherwise I think it’s exactly the same.

Desperation, Funeral alternate, and Roosevelt alternate was taken from the sound cloud from one of the composers.

I followed the list on HZ.com in chronological order up to the track Funeral (Alternate). Then in chronological order I added the album mixes. There is a total of 75 tracks on here and continuing to get updated. For now I believe this is the definitive compilation of everything released. Enjoy I really hope this helps. 🙂

1m01 Logos
1m01a The Opening
1m01b Parents On Plane
1m02 Spidey Logo – Flying
1m02 v5 Spidey Logo – Flying (Alternate)
1m03 Truck Chase
1m04a Peter Hallucinates Pt 1
1m05 Graduation
1m08 Peter Hallucinates Pt 2
2m09 I Can’t Lose You Too
2m10 Flying Montage
2m10 v2 Flying Montage (Alternate)
2m11 Peter Remembers
2m12 Max
2m16 Max Goes to Work
2m18 Harry Comes Home
2m20 Max Electrocuted
3m23 Peter Vistis Harry
3m24 Oscorp Surveillance – Conspiracy
3m26 Electro Is Born
3m28 Electro Wanders
3m30 Oxford
4m31a Times Square Pt 1
4m31b Times Square Pt. 2
4m32 Peter’s Room
4m37 Harry Finds Secret Files
4m39 Harry Wants Spidey’s Blood
4m40 Peter Distracts Oscorp Security
4m41 Harry Meets Gwen
5m41c Dr. Kafka Experiments
5m42 You’re My Boy
5m42a I Can’t Give You My Blood (Alternate)
5m44 I’m Moving To England
5m45 I Can’t Give You My Blood – Peter Finds Clue
5m45a Special Projects
6m46 Roosevelt Station
6m47 Electro Released
6m47a Gwen’s Voicemail
6m48 Harry & Electro Return To Oscorp
6m50 Lobby Walk
6m51 Harry Transformation
6m52 I love You
6m53_54 Power Station
6m55_7m55 Electro Showdown Intro & Pt 1
7m55 v2.05 Electro Showdown, pt. I (Alternate)
7m56abc Electrocuting Spidey & Itsy Bitsy Spider Theme
7m57 Electro Showdown Pt 2 & Electro’s Death
7m57 v4 Electro Showdown, pt. II (Alternate)
7m58a Planes & Power Grid Restored
7m58a v4 Power Restored (Alternate)
7m59 Goblin Showdown
7m60 Gwen Dies
7m61 Funeral
8m62 Exterior Osborn
8m63 Rhino Returns.mp3
8m63 v7 Rhino Returns (Alternate)
9m70s It’s On Again (End Titles)
9m71 End Credits
9m72 Spidey Theme
9m73 The Electro Suite
9m74 Harry’s Suite
9m75 Desperation Suite
10 I’m Moving To England (Alternate) I’M MOVING TO ENGLAND
11 Roosevelt Station (Alternate)
12 Roosevelt Station (Alternate II) I NEED TO KNOW
13 Harry Transformation (Alternate) SUM TOTAL
14 Funeral (Alternate)
15 The Opening (Album Mix) THERE HE IS
16 Graduation (Album Mix) NO PLACE LIKE HOME
17 Peter Visits Harry (Album Mix) YOU NEED ME
18 Times Square (Album Mix) MY ENEMY
19 Power Station (Album Mix) SO MUCH ANGER
20 Electrocuting Spidey (Album Mix) I’M ELECTRO
21 Rhino Returns Part 1 (Album Mix) GROUNDED
22 Rhino Returns Part 2 (Album Mix) YOUR’E THAT SPIDER-GUY

Thank you I appreciate it. I’m not here to argue but I definitely understand what you’re saying. With the 10 cue leak some tracks on there were not present in the leak which is why i added them to my compilation, from the original leak I added electro showdown part 1 and 2 and airplane and power grid and spidey logo flying those are all missing from this leak and I added them in as they are indeed different tracks. 🙂 But yes I do agree with what youre saying in regards to the pirates of caribbean situation. 🙂 I hope this information can help others on here 🙂

Which tracklist did you write? 🙂 Surely you’re not talking about the compilation post I made lol

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the 10 cue leaks were more like demos tho, instead of session mixes

interesting indeed! Yes I believe some cues in the 10 cue leak did sound like demos but for example tracks like electro showdown part 2 and flying montage in the leak did sound like finalized session mixes, I don’t think it was a similar case like with the captain america winter soldier demos vs complete score (if that makes sense) 🙂

What is everyone’s thoughts on these 2 cues? They were on youtube for a long while now, they seem legit but I don’t know where they’re sourced from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9irHhGgy6k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qIFBkBjobE

and here’s from H-Z.com version http://www.hans-zimmer.com/index.php?rub=disco&id=1610 (79 track)

Yes I couldn’t have said it better myself a perfect example of a score similar would be Danny Elfman’s spider-man 2 complete score. While it has almost every cue represented in film, It does contain many unused tracks as well as christopher young’s contribution. 🙂

7m61 Funeral (Film Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzwyTYmuxQg

5m41c Dr. Kafka’s Experiments (Film Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FUgFqdAR5s

Farewell is on the way.

7m61 Funeral (Film Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzwyTYmuxQg

5m41c Dr. Kafka’s Experiments (Film Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FUgFqdAR5s

Farewell is on the way.
So youre the mastermind behind these film mixes? ;P Anychance you can do the opening logos?

I was about to ask the same thing 🙂

7m61 Funeral (Film Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzwyTYmuxQg

5m41c Dr. Kafka’s Experiments (Film Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FUgFqdAR5s

Farewell is on the way.

Are you going to post links for lossless versions of your work? That would be lovely 🙂

7m61 Funeral (Film Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzwyTYmuxQg

5m41c Dr. Kafka’s Experiments (Film Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FUgFqdAR5s

Farewell is on the way.

I look forward to hearing what you do with farewell. I did manage to make the film mix to the track "Peter finds clue" for the scene when he finds the subway tokens inside the calculator. It’s a combination/mix of the entire track "I’m moving to England" and the latter half of "Peter finds clue".

I’m eager to hear what YFM does with "Farewell" as well.

3m24 Oscorp Surveillance – Conspiracy (combined with 4m32 Gwen, just like the Film Version)

5m44 Lobby (combined with 5m45 Peter Finds Clue, just like the Film Version)

7m57 Electro Showdown Pt 2 & Electro’s Death (combined with 7m58a Planes & Power Grid Restored and adding some "strings?" you can hear it in 03:19-03:23, just like the Film Version)

From 10 Cue Leak – 8m63 Rhino Returns (joined with LSRS from the 5.1 Film 05:57-06:28 and i edited it a little bit to removed the "It’s On Again" part)

1m01a The Opening (Alternate Film Version from LR&LSRS, removed Center, so you can hear some SFX a little bit but some are clear)

4m31b Times Square Pt 2 (Edited and combined with the 5.1 LSRS in 00:38-01:12 but you can hear some minor SFX :/, first part using the Album version, – Middle using LSRS from the film and i edited a little bit – End using the Album version again but i shortened)

Phillips – Gone Gone Gone (Edited, just like the film version, and i also included the actual film version from 5.1 LR&LSRS and removed Center)

2m10 Flying Montage (nothing really changed, just hear 00:36-00:40 to hear the difference)

*LR= Left,Right
*LSRS= Left Surround,Right Surround
*Center= this is where some voice,sfx and other noises are coming
*and sorry if my english is bad 🙁

3m24 Oscorp Surveillance – Conspiracy (combined with 4m32 Gwen, just like the Film Version)

5m44 Lobby (combined with 5m45 Peter Finds Clue, just like the Film Version)

7m57 Electro Showdown Pt 2 & Electro’s Death (combined with 7m58a Planes & Power Grid Restored and adding some "strings?" you can hear it in 03:19-03:23, just like the Film Version)

From 10 Cue Leak – 8m63 Rhino Returns (joined with LSRS from the 5.1 Film 05:57-06:28 and i edited it a little bit to removed the "It’s On Again" part)

1m01a The Opening (Alternate Film Version from LR&LSRS, removed Center, so you can hear some SFX a little bit but some are clear)

4m31b Times Square Pt 2 (Edited and combined with the 5.1 LSRS in 00:38-01:12 but you can hear some minor SFX :/, first part using the Album version, – Middle using LSRS from the film and i edited a little bit – End using the Album version again but i shortened)

Phillips – Gone Gone Gone (Edited, just like the film version, and i also included the actual film version from 5.1 LR&LSRS and removed Center)

2m10 Flying Montage (nothing really changed, just hear 00:36-00:40 to hear the difference)

*LR= Left,Right
*LSRS= Left Surround,Right Surround
*Center= this is where some voice,sfx and other noises are coming
*and sorry if my english is bad 🙁

Great work brother!!! This should help a lot of people further complete their version. Everything is done exceptionally well. I could add some of these track titles to my ultimate score tracklist if anyone is interested. Let me know. Beyond that epic work. 🙂

01. 1m01 v1.00 The Logos (00:41)
02. 1m01a v1.13 The Opening (03:18)
03. 1m01a v3.09 The Opening (03:24)
04. 1m01b v2.06 Parents On Plane (03:20)
05. 1m02 v23.01 Spidey Logo / Flying (00:55)
06. 1m02 v5.00 Spidey Logo / Flying (00:56)
07. 1m03 v5.09 Truck Chase (03:33)
08. 1m04a v1.03 Peter Hallucinates Pt 1 (00:19)
09. 1m05 v7.01 Graduation (01:52)
10. 1m08 v2.04 Peter Hallucinates Pt 2 (01:14)
11. 2m09 v1.16 I Can’t Lose You Too (01:40)
12. 2m10 v10.08 Flying Montage (02:33)
13. 2m10 v10.09 Flying Montage (02:24)
14. 2m10 v10.13 Flying Montage (02:24)
15. 2m11 v2.02 Peter Remembers (00:35)
16. 2m12 v1.02 Max (01:05)
17. 2m12 v1.03 AK Max (01:21)
18. 2m12 v1.03 Max (01:21)
19. 2m16 v1.07 Max Goes to Work (01:18)
20. 2m18 v1.03 Harry Comes Home (01:00)
21. 2m18 v5.00 Harry Comes Home (00:39)
22. 2m19 v1.13 Farewell (01:34)
23. 2m20 v1.06 Max Electrocuted (03:22)
24. 2m20 v1.08 AK INS Max Electrocuted (00:42)
25. 3m23 v22 Peter Vistis Harry (03:22)
26. 3m24 v1.04 Oscorp Surveillance – Conspiracy (00:47)
27. 3m26 v1.06 Electro Is Born (01:05)
28. 3m28 v1.02 Electro Wanders (00:50)
29. 3m30 v1.08 Oxford (01:57)
30. 4m31a v3.11 Times Square Pt 1 (05:56)
31. 4m31b v1.06 Times Square Pt 2 (02:31)
32. 4m31b v2.03 Times Square Pt 2 (02:30)
33. 4m32 v2.03 Peter’s Room (01:53)
34. 4m32 v4.00 Peter’s Room (01:51)
35. 4m37 v2.04 Harry Finds Secret Files (01:25)
36. 4m39 v5.05 Harry Wants Spidey’s Blood (04:09)
37. 4m40 v1.03 Peter Distracts Oscorp Security (00:39)
38. 4m41 v1.09 Harry Meets Gwen (01:15)
39. 5m41c v1.03 Dr. Kafka Experiments (02:05)
40. 5m42 v2.03 You’re My Boy (02:46)
41. 5m42a v3.00 I Can’t Give You My Blood (02:46)
42. 5m44 v6.01 Lobby Insert (01:19)
43. 5m44 v9.00 Lobby Insert (01:06)
44. 5m45 v2.14 Peter Finds Clue (04:12)
45. 5m45a v4.00 Special Projects (03:20)
46. 6m46 v3.04 Roosevelt Station (05:34)
47. 6m46 v4.07 Roosevelt Station (05:11)
48. 6m46 v4.07 Alt Roosevelt Station (05:12)
49. 6m47 v2.01 Electro Released (03:29)
50. 6m47a v2.01 Gwen’s Voicemail (00:57)
51. 6m48 v2.03 Harry & Electro Return To Oscorp (01:56)
52. 6m50 v1.01 Lobby Walk (00:26)
53. 6m51 v2.16 Harry Transformation (02:58)
54. 6m51 v3.03 Harry Transformation (02:33)
55. 6m52 v6.03 I Love You (02:18)
56. 6m53_54 v1.12 Power Station (02:43)
57. 7m55 v2.06 Electro Showdown Pt 1 (02:45)
58. 7m56 v1.03 Electrocuting Spidey / Itsy Bitsy Spider Theme (00:59)
59. 7m57 v2.06 Electro Showdown Pt 2 – Electro’s Death (03:02)
60. 7m58a v1.04 Planes / Power Grid Restored (01:22)
61. 7m58a v4.00 Planes / Power Grid Restored (01:34)
62. 7m59 v4.05 Goblin Showdown (03:46)
63. 7m60 v1.00 Gwen Dies (00:34)
64. 7m60 v1.00 ALT Gwen Dies (00:34)
65. 7m61 v4.05 Funeral (02:32)
66. 7m61 v5.00 Funeral (02:25)
67. 7m61 v6.02 Funeral (02:34)
68. 8m62 v1.05 Exterior Osborn (02:02)
69. 8m63 v5.07 Rhino Returns (06:51)
70. 8m63 v7.00 Rhino Returns (05:51)
72. 9m71 The End Credit Suite (03:04)

I know there’s a chance that I made mistakes here and there, and could be wrong about the whole thing, so feel free to tell me if something is off.

It does make me wonder if 1m02 v5.00, 7m58a v4.00, and 8m63 v7.00 are demos that were added on to the original files, considering their lack of presence on the leaked slates. Also, there does seem to be one missing cue here ("2m22 v2.00")

Lastly, I decided to make a small selection of film edits (http://www.mediafire.com/folder/kd241x2cri1ta/TASM2_Edits), all made prior to the posting. They’ve mostly to see what I’m able to do at the moment with the files, considering I’ve been busy and stuff. They’re not meant to be final. Just me messing around with what I have. This should include that often talked about 1m01+1m01a, as well as the end credits material. Enjoy!

01. 1m01 v1.00 The Logos (00:41)
02. 1m01a v1.13 The Opening (03:18)
03. 1m01a v3.09 The Opening (03:24)
04. 1m01b v2.06 Parents On Plane (03:20)
05. 1m02 v23.01 Spidey Logo / Flying (00:55)
06. 1m02 v5.00 Spidey Logo / Flying (00:56)
07. 1m03 v5.09 Truck Chase (03:33)
08. 1m04a v1.03 Peter Hallucinates Pt 1 (00:19)
09. 1m05 v7.01 Graduation (01:52)
10. 1m08 v2.04 Peter Hallucinates Pt 2 (01:14)
11. 2m09 v1.16 I Can’t Lose You Too (01:40)
12. 2m10 v10.08 Flying Montage (02:33)
13. 2m10 v10.09 Flying Montage (02:24)
14. 2m10 v10.13 Flying Montage (02:24)
15. 2m11 v2.02 Peter Remembers (00:35)
16. 2m12 v1.02 Max (01:05)
17. 2m12 v1.03 AK Max (01:21)
18. 2m12 v1.03 Max (01:21)
19. 2m16 v1.07 Max Goes to Work (01:18)
20. 2m18 v1.03 Harry Comes Home (01:00)
21. 2m18 v5.00 Harry Comes Home (00:39)
22. 2m19 v1.13 Farewell (01:34)
23. 2m20 v1.06 Max Electrocuted (03:22)
24. 2m20 v1.08 AK INS Max Electrocuted (00:42)
25. 3m23 v22 Peter Vistis Harry (03:22)
26. 3m24 v1.04 Oscorp Surveillance – Conspiracy (00:47)
27. 3m26 v1.06 Electro Is Born (01:05)
28. 3m28 v1.02 Electro Wanders (00:50)
29. 3m30 v1.08 Oxford (01:57)
30. 4m31a v3.11 Times Square Pt 1 (05:56)
31. 4m31b v1.06 Times Square Pt 2 (02:31)
32. 4m31b v2.03 Times Square Pt 2 (02:30)
33. 4m32 v2.03 Peter’s Room (01:53)
34. 4m32 v4.00 Peter’s Room (01:51)
35. 4m37 v2.04 Harry Finds Secret Files (01:25)
36. 4m39 v5.05 Harry Wants Spidey’s Blood (04:09)
37. 4m40 v1.03 Peter Distracts Oscorp Security (00:39)
38. 4m41 v1.09 Harry Meets Gwen (01:15)
39. 5m41c v1.03 Dr. Kafka Experiments (02:05)
40. 5m42 v2.03 You’re My Boy (02:46)
41. 5m42a v3.00 I Can’t Give You My Blood (02:46)
42. 5m44 v6.01 Lobby Insert (01:19)
43. 5m44 v9.00 Lobby Insert (01:06)
44. 5m45 v2.14 Peter Finds Clue (04:12)
45. 5m45a v4.00 Special Projects (03:20)
46. 6m46 v3.04 Roosevelt Station (05:34)
47. 6m46 v4.07 Roosevelt Station (05:11)
48. 6m46 v4.07 Alt Roosevelt Station (05:12)
49. 6m47 v2.01 Electro Released (03:29)
50. 6m47a v2.01 Gwen’s Voicemail (00:57)
51. 6m48 v2.03 Harry & Electro Return To Oscorp (01:56)
52. 6m50 v1.01 Lobby Walk (00:26)
53. 6m51 v2.16 Harry Transformation (02:58)
54. 6m51 v3.03 Harry Transformation (02:33)
55. 6m52 v6.03 I Love You (02:18)
56. 6m53_54 v1.12 Power Station (02:43)
57. 7m55 v2.06 Electro Showdown Pt 1 (02:45)
58. 7m56 v1.03 Electrocuting Spidey / Itsy Bitsy Spider Theme (00:59)
59. 7m57 v2.06 Electro Showdown Pt 2 – Electro’s Death (03:02)
60. 7m58a v1.04 Planes / Power Grid Restored (01:22)
61. 7m58a v4.00 Planes / Power Grid Restored (01:34)
62. 7m59 v4.05 Goblin Showdown (03:46)
63. 7m60 v1.00 Gwen Dies (00:34)
64. 7m60 v1.00 ALT Gwen Dies (00:34)
65. 7m61 v4.05 Funeral (02:32)
66. 7m61 v5.00 Funeral (02:25)
67. 7m61 v6.02 Funeral (02:34)
68. 8m62 v1.05 Exterior Osborn (02:02)
69. 8m63 v5.07 Rhino Returns (06:51)
70. 8m63 v7.00 Rhino Returns (05:51)
72. 9m71 The End Credit Suite (03:04)