01 Main Title and Escape 1:32
02 Escape 6:01
03 Go Away 1:44
04 Revisiting Snoke 3:29
05 Ahch-To Island 2:40
06 The Supremacy 4:02
07 Old Friends 2:00
08 Finn Meets Rose 2:35
09 The Connection 2:29
10 Lesson One 2:10
11 Canto Bight 2:38
12 Who Are You? 3:05
13 The Fathiers 2:43
14 The Cave 3:00
15 The Sacred Jedi Texts 3:33
16 The Rebellion Is Reborn 4:00
17 A New Alliance 3:14
18 Sacrifice* 0:58
19 “Chrome Dome” 2:03
20 The Battle of Crait* 7:12
21 The Spark 3:37
22 The Last Jedi 3:05
23 Peace and Purpose 3:08
24 Finale+ 5:38
25 The Battle of Crait (Alternate Excerpt)* 0:57
Total Time: 1:17:21
* Features music from the Finale
+ "Tracked" music removed from Finale
https://mega.nz/#!klclEJbJ!n1tY5QJB4PzB_lT8gB_72cpPyocmIvU28Y-qhP3Fp2Q
He’s very old school. This is how soundtrack albums were presented in the days of vinyl
02A [0:00-1:44] "Luke Meets Rey" (1:44)
03 Revisiting Snoke (3:29)
02B [1:44-end] "Luke’s Daily Routine" (2:39)
10A [0:00-1:01] "Who Are You?" (1:01)
04 The Supremacy (4:01)
06A [0:00-2:00] "Luke and R2" (2:00)
05 Fun with Finn and Rose (2:34)
06B [2:00-end] "Luke and Rey to Cliffside" (2:29)
08 Lesson One (2:10)
09 Canto Bight (2:38)
10B [1:01-end] "Finn and Rose Escape" (2:03)
11 The Fathiers (2:42)
12 The Cave (3:00)
13 The Sacred Jedi Texts (3:33)
14 A New Alliance (3:13)
15 “Chrome Dome” (2:03)
16 The Battle of Crait (6:48)
17 The Spark (3:36)
18 The Last Jedi (3:04)
19 Peace and Purpose (3:08)
20 Finale (8:28)
Concert arrangement:
07 The Rebellion is Reborn (4:00)
Which is why I will wait before I even listen to it 😉
You’ll maybe wait for the FYC.
Can I know why, is the stupid feeling of completionism, wanting to hear every note ever composed? That’s good and all, but it does not work with every movie, you know very well some movies have very messed up film mixes. I dunno, Battle of the Heroes in Episode 3 to me sounded more epic and much better in the album than in the actual movie and film mix.
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Can I know why, is the stupid feeling of completionism, wanting to hear every note ever composed? That’s good and all, but it does not work with every movie, you know very well some movies have very messed up film mixes. I dunno, Battle of the Heroes in Episode 3 to me sounded more epic and much better in the album than in the actual movie and film mix.
Maybe because people are different from each other? Who knows.
And the answer to this, you can find in the Titanic discussion thread. It has absolutely nothing to do with completionism. It’s all about the listening.
Take The Dark Knight, for example. Listening to the OST vs the complete score (how it was heard in the film) is a jarring experience for some. When you’ve seen the film X number of times and then wanna hear the cues as you know them to be, it can be quite a shock to hear them mixed with other cues on the OST. Years ago I made an analysis after having gotten to know the complete score like the back of my hand. I wrote down all the cues that the OST is made up of – and none of it makes sense.
Ahem, AVATAR
Transformers is also a disaster. Tracked almost as much as any Cameron film. I actually wouldn’t be surprised if somehow, some way, he was involved with the production of the score.
Haha I would say more just a passionate discussion than an arguement 😉
Though I don’t always agree with film mixes. My favorite cue in Civil War – 4m36-37 Bucky Escapes contains an insert of Black Panther’s theme in the middle of the cue. In the film it was removed. This makes absolutely no sense to me as it plays right when he lands on the stairs to fight one of the characters. Then again it’s an MCU film, so they probably thought it made as much sense as the MCU as a whole having zero musical continuity :laugh:
Also was it my imagination, or did I hear part of the attack on endor while they were flying through the red crystal planet?
Agreed, I usually compromise with custom edits that are largely in film order, but that use album order/edits and include suites or alternate/unused tracks in places where I just think they sound good.
Also was it my imagination, or did I hear part of the attack on endor while they were flying through the red crystal planet?
Yep, there’s a part where he quotes Here They Come (more specifically the variant in Superstructure Chase from the Battle of Endor). One of my favorite moments in the score.
Where is the first 02:08 of "Who Are You?" from, then? I haven’t been able to place it and you haven’t made it a separate track if it doesn’t belong with the rest of the track…
From a scene before the Supremacy track. I made an updated version, it should have replaced the older version.
Thanks for the clarification and updated edit! I wonder why this was placed so far away from where it is in the film…?
Because it’s John Williams :laugh:
Considering your admiration of the Avengers theme (something that shows up in plenty of films), it still puzzles me you would still be making this false claim. Just admit that you don’t care for much of the universe’s music to actually find any additional references that some composers would throw in (i.e. Mothersbaugh with Ragnarok).
Is a claim false if it was true only until recently? Let’s face it, MCU didn’t have musical continuity until Captain America: The Winter Soldier when Silvestri’s theme made some appearances. It’s been a refreshing road in years since, but for most of its existence the MCU has been devoid of musical continuity. That makes future films all the more at risk of reverting to old habits. After all, Tyler’s Iron Man 3 theme made several fitting appearances in Age of Ultron, but none in Civil War or Homecoming, where a reprise or two would have been quite welcome. If the only theme that makes it into the next two Avengers films is the Avenger theme itself, despite many memorable themes for Iron Man, Ant Man, Captain America, and the Guardians of the Galaxy existing, I will lose all faith in any promise of musical continuity going forward.
EDIT: The Avengers had some Cap themes in it, but as a whole the MCU’s musical continuity is spotty at best, and can hardly be even called a continuity in any real sense of the word.
There’s a reason I specified that it was only some composers, since I agree that the MCU track record is certainly spotty. I’m more detesting DAK’s claim that they never even bothered with any sort of continuity, which is obviously bullshit.
Really, the continuity doesn’t mean much when the score doesn’t work in the first place (which is why I think a JXL helmed Justice League would’ve still fallen flat). Really, if the music still serves the picture well, then it shouldn’t really matter much that it feels different. Just let the composers do their jobs, and if it works, it works.
As for the MCU, I feel that those small attempts of some kind of musical continuity is just little more than easter-eggs.
And to be honest, I really struggled to find any reference of previous themes in Age of Ultron. I couldn’t hear neither Thor or Iron Man’s themes by Tyler. Maybe it’s because of Elfman? I don’t really know what his role in Age of Ultron was, so I cannot tell if it’s due to Tyler himself, Elfman, Whedon, some executive or a combination of these.
I also noticed that in Civil War there isn’t much (not extensively as in Winter Soldier, I mean) of Cap’s and Winter Soldier’s themes by Jackman himself. He uses much more a new "Civil War" theme that is just identical to the first notes of the Kingsman theme, strangely.
I mean, to me it appears that generally, the composers don’t care that much of using other composer’s themes and even when a same composer is scoring a new movie, he’s shy of using his own themes of the previous films.
Hopefully, this might change in the future, but most of the "damage" for a consistent musical continuity is done. The wisest choice Mark Mothersbaugh (or the director, I cannot tell) to built a strong musical continuity in Ragnarok should have been to use exclusively either Doyle’s theme and/or Tyler’s and built the entire score on that. But that didn’t happen. Oh well. I guess I wrote too much.
Sorry for the off-topic!
I feel less bothered about the continuity, ultimately because I’m more interested in what each composer has to bring in. X-Men’s musical continuity is certainly close to as messy as the MCU is, yet each composer manages to bring their own flair in each particular film they do. It helps any references to previous scores feel more profound (like using music from X1 for the opening of First Class). So really, I’d rather worry about if the composer did a great job with the material before deciding to worry about continuity.
And I think that’s a bigger issue with the MCU, where a lot of the scores don’t really stand out much. Even as I like some more than most, I do acknowledge that a lot sound like pretty standard Superhero fare. And that just doesn’t cut it for some people. Winter Soldier likely made an impression on people because it sounded pretty unique. And the same can be said for Ragnarok now as well.
So really, Marvel should just worry about making their composers shine before anything else, which I’ve heard they have thought more about now.
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BTW, I really like the idea of using both older and newer themes for Bats and Supes in JL. It’s just a shame they focused more on scrubbing the bad taste of the previous films than anything else
Does it have to do with Elfman? I don’t want to blame anyone, it’s just that I have no idea of what happened behind the scenes. Elfman was called at the last second to rescore part of the film or he became a co-composer during post-production because Tyler was busy with Furious 7? I’d really like to know, I wasn’t really into "film music news" that time.
I don’t think that the X-Men movies are a fair comparison. I mean, the MCU has so many standalone films for the various characters and a couple of "group" films, while the X-Men is basically two "group" trilogies and a Wolverine spin-off trilogy. In the X-Men saga there’s not a big deal of musical continuity because there aren’t major themes for the individual characters. As you said, each film is an opportunity for each composer in charge to shine in his own way, so there’s no big deal with themes at all. But when the same composer had the opportunity to come back (so far, only John Ottman and Marco Beltrami had this chance), they did actually came back to their themes. I totally love Ottman’s main theme, it’s totally awesome.
The problem with the MCU is that with so many solo movies and zero continuity between Iron Man 1-2-3 and partially in Thor 1-2-3 and Captain America 1-2 (maybe even Civil War, since the most frequent theme in it is an excerpt of the Kingsman theme) and no big deal in all the team-up films that should have been the perfect opportunities to use all of them, now it’s kinda late to start a consistent musical continuity because there’s 3 different themes for 3 of the major MCU characters now and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Alan Silvestri will just stick to his Avengers themes and gives no shot to all of these interchangable themes.
For me, the biggest shame in the score for Justice League is that Elfman made it such a big deal of the return to the classic Batman and Superman themes and he basically just made easter eggs with it. And also an incredibly cheap use of Wonder Woman’s theme and the absolute rejection of Zimmer’s Superman themes. If only he had used Zimmer’s Superman piano theme in the cornfield scene and "What are you going to do when you are not saving the world?" in the ending, and used much more of the classic Batman and Superman themes, it would have been incredibly better. Possibly my favourite score of the year.
I don’t think there was ever any official statement about it, but what I’ve gathered is that Elfman’s involvement was a last minute one. A lot of the score in film had to be edited heavily, presumably because Whedon was having issues with Marvel during post production. Still, I think it’s mostly a Tyler production, with some doses of Elfman here and there.
I don’t think that the X-Men movies are a fair comparison. I mean, the MCU has so many standalone films for the various characters and a couple of "group" films, while the X-Men is basically two "group" trilogies and a Wolverine spin-off trilogy. In the X-Men saga there’s not a big deal of musical continuity because there aren’t major themes for the individual characters. As you said, each film is an opportunity for each composer in charge to shine in his own way, so there’s no big deal with themes at all. But when the same composer had the opportunity to come back (so far, only John Ottman and Marco Beltrami had this chance), they did actually came back to their themes. I totally love Ottman’s main theme, it’s totally awesome.
Yeah. I was thinking that after I wrote my remarks. The X-Men franchise is so inconsistent that its continuity altogether means much less after a while. Whereas with the MCU, though a bit inconsistent in areas, still keeps itself in check. So yeah, they would be very different creatures. I still stand by what I said though.
For me, the biggest shame in the score for Justice League is that Elfman made it such a big deal of the return to the classic Batman and Superman themes and he basically just made easter eggs with it. And also an incredibly cheap use of Wonder Woman’s theme and the absolute rejection of Zimmer’s Superman themes. If only he had used Zimmer’s Superman piano theme in the cornfield scene and "What are you going to do when you are not saving the world?" in the ending, and used much more of the classic Batman and Superman themes, it would have been incredibly better. Possibly my favourite score of the year.
I would’ve been so much happier if the older themes at least had a proper build up. As is, it’s a competent enough score with way too many missed opportunities. To have the MoS theme being used here after its absence in BvS would’ve been so perfect. It’s a shame such a good theme only was used once, since the Williams theme has had plenty of spotlight at this point. The WW reprisal I didn’t mind, since it still sounded relatively decent to my ears.
Whedon seriously has to stop hiring Elfman at the last minute :laugh:
Can someone re-upload a new one, plz? Many thanks.
Can someone re-upload a new one, plz? Many thanks.
This seems to be it.
Some extra bits got place at the front that confused it:
https://mega.nz/#!klclEJbJ!n1tY5QJB4PzB_lT8gB_72cpPyocmIvU28Y-qhP3Fp2Q
You’ll maybe wait for the FYC.
At this point I wonder if they’re gonna release it at all… The problem is that in numerous tracks there are bits of the themes for Rey, Kylo, Luke, Leia and other themes from previous films. I don’t know if they should remove them all to make a FYC containing exclusively original music written for The Last Jedi…
STAR WARS IS DEAD (for me).
But the music is truly good (and fitted better into the movie then TFA did).
Many nice themes (of the First Order/Star Destroyer/Action scenes) and variations (of Rose`and the Rebellion theme) are missing on the OST.
Let`s hope for an FYC and that Disney will release a COMPLETE Set for all Star Wars films after Episode IX.
02A [0:00-1:44] "Luke Meets Rey" (1:44) > Ahch-To Island ?
03 Revisiting Snoke (3:29)
02B [1:44-end] "Luke’s Daily Routine" (2:39) > Ahch-To Island part 2 ?
10A [0:00-1:01] "Who Are You?" (1:01)
04 The Supremacy (4:01)
06A [0:00-2:00] "Luke and R2" (2:00) > what is original track name ?
05 Fun with Finn and Rose (2:34)
06B [2:00-end] "Luke and Rey to Cliffside" (2:29) > what is original track name ?
08 Lesson One (2:10)
09 Canto Bight (2:38)
10B [1:01-end] "Finn and Rose Escape" (2:03) > who are you part 2 ?
11 The Fathiers (2:42)
12 The Cave (3:00)
13 The Sacred Jedi Texts (3:33)
14 A New Alliance (3:13)
15 “Chrome Dome” (2:03)
16 The Battle of Crait (6:48)
17 The Spark (3:36)
18 The Last Jedi (3:04)
19 Peace and Purpose (3:08)
20 Finale (8:28)
Concert arrangement:
07 The Rebellion is Reborn (4:00)
Hi.the link is not working.Clicking on it,it wont go, and copying it into another browser window it wont go either.
It’s just mislabeled a bit:
https://mega.nz/#!klclEJbJ!n1tY5QJB4PzB_lT8gB_72cpPyocmIvU28Y-qhP3Fp2Q
It’s only a matter of time (chances are next year once the blu-ray/4K/3D is released on home video in order to extract the missing bits of the score or a LEGO game), until either GoodMusician, Faleel or SonicAdventure makes some great deluxe/complete editions. 😀
STAR WARS IS DEAD (for me).
But the music is truly good (and fitted better into the movie then TFA did).
Many nice themes (of the First Order/Star Destroyer/Action scenes) and variations (of Rose`and the Rebellion theme) are missing on the OST.
Let`s hope for an FYC and that Disney will release a COMPLETE Set for all Star Wars films after Episode IX.
Sorry to hear the movie didn’t work for you.
Here’s something () to make you smile! 🙂
-S