We just need all those fights about it being disappointing and not nearly as great as Williams’ scores.
duration – 01:09:28
He’s Here For Us
A Long Ride Ahead
Wobani Imperial Labor Camp
Trust Goes Both Ways
When Has Become Now
Jedha Arrival
Jedha City Ambush
Star-Dust
Confrontation on Eadu
Krennic’s Aspirations
Rebellions Are Built on Hope
Rogue One
Cargo Shuttle SW-0608
Scrambling the Rebel Fleet
AT-ACT Assault
The Master Switch
Your Father Would Be Proud
Hope
Jyn Erso & Hope Suite
The Imperial Suite
Guardians of the Whills Suite
Heh, you fuckin’ said it. :laugh:
duration – 01:09:28
He’s Here For Us
A Long Ride Ahead
Wobani Imperial Labor Camp
Trust Goes Both Ways
When Has Become Now
Jedha Arrival
Jedha City Ambush
Star-Dust
Confrontation on Eadu
Krennic’s Aspirations
Rebellions Are Built on Hope
Rogue One
Cargo Shuttle SW-0608
Scrambling the Rebel Fleet
AT-ACT Assault
The Master Switch
Your Father Would Be Proud
Hope
Jyn Erso & Hope Suite
The Imperial Suite
Guardians of the Whills Suite
I LOVE the idea of having three suites! 😀
And I hope the score will be good…
You know Bart Oss tends to have it the day of release or even days early if lucky..
I was going to buy it, but after reading your kind words I’ve decided not to, out of spite. Giacchino just lost his bucks thanks to you. BOO-HOO!!!
Hey man, calm down! :laugh:
I’d could buy it, only if it will be (for me) a life-changing score, like Interstellar 😀 But it’s pretty rare that I buy music (especcially CDs), though I know I should. I probably will when my wallet will be larger… when I’ll be working.
I mean, there was really no need for Ponyo to make that comment, but if that’s why you’re not purchasing the album, that’s really stupid.
You know Bart Oss tends to have it the day of release or even days early if lucky..
I am patient…
I just am a tad irritated because no details of the score had been officially released yet (as if the score is so messy that they don’t have yet an album ready). I guess they haven’t posted the details because of the spoilers the titles give…
Also, I’m excited at the idea of listening those three suites, especially "The Imperial Suite"! It looks so good, against all of my fears for the score.
You know Bart Oss tends to have it the day of release or even days early if lucky..
Oh, dude. You know how many times you asked for the Sun and Moon Super Music Collection when you were waiting for it to be posted, even though you were telling people to be patient about it? Just stop, seriously.
Will you be sharing with us Nintendo 3DS Pok�mon Sun & Moon Super Music Complete, AcidBeast?
I can’t wait for it too. Hope someone shares a 100% FLAC, or at least with cue, log and m3u. Scans would be nice too.
I agree… none of us is affected by our choice of purchasing (or not purchasing) the album.
I’m just going to wait for the official soundtrack rips.
Sigh. Impatient people. I’ll just wait til the official soundtrack releases in November, with the game.
In those posts, do you see any impatience, from me, when I said I was waiting to the official soundtrack release in CD, an You think, me, gently asking ONCE, to a trusty uploader of Pok�mon CD’s, to upload the CD, is really being really impatient, and having asked him a day after release? You pretty much took the comments for your liking and purposedly took them out of context to prove me wrong. Yes, my friend, because simply asking someone who usually shares Pok�mon stuff if he was gonna share it, just once, a few days after it’s out, CLEARLY is an act of impatience. That’s one time, days after release. Yes, that’s a lot of times, and that’s a lot of impatience, CLEARLY. Those two posts were made the same day, and in only the first time I ask if he’s gonna upload it. Just once. Way to take shit out of context. 😉
Seriously, get lost with your piss poor attempt of making me look like shit. You failed. Go home. As for any of you wanting to act offended for my comments, I didn’t do no wrong. I just said, pretty much the truth. There’s no need for impatience here with this score when we all know it’s a huge one and we’re getting it Day 1 or maybe even a day earlier. It’s happened a lot of times. Why make a fuss out of it.
*Extends Hand to Shake*
Welcome to Club Partner.
Is that too much to ask for?
Oh, of COURSE it is.
Hence Why I Keep Saying
"THE ONLY OPINION THAT MATTERS TO ME. IS MINE."
Giacchino is really the new Zimmer, it’s a fact now.
It Will Be Crap Beacuase :
1. It Is Composed By …..
2. It Is Not Composed By….
3. It Is Part of ….. Collection and Not As Good Because Of (1. And 2)
4. It Is Crap Because I Hate It All….
Giacchino is really the new Zimmer, it’s a fact now.
How is that? They’re two entirely different composers, Ponyo, with different styles. Only way that’d ever be a thing is if Zimmer passed or something, or stopped composing.
For example, even though Michael Giacchino’s done the essentially near-perfect impression and imitation of John Williams, I would never say he’s the new Williams. No one’s the new anybody.
That would be my fault there. I just wanted to make a joke about one’s supposed thought process, not make an actual bet on whether the score will be fine or ear splitting. A level not needed to be taken, but I still started it.
Giacchino is really the new Zimmer, it’s a fact now.
I’d really hate to believe it, since I still feel Giacchino has more personality than Zimmer has, but when things are starting to get overproduced to the max, there’s no denial in what’s happening.
The only thing left is Giacchino making his own version of RCP. THEN we’re complete.
But, There Are Some I Do Not Likd, But I Will Not Go Sar Far as To Preach That They Are GODS….
If Someone Asked My Opinion on An Album of Course I Would Say I Like It.
It Does Not Bother Me at All People Do Not Like Them.. Same With Disney, I Am A Mega Fan Of It. But When People Go Out of Their Way To Insult and Take The Piss Outta Of Liking It. Then No.
That’s what I was referring to by "overproduced to the max." It’s clear that the man is at his most noticeable now, for better or worse. Granted, I’m not certain if there’s as much Giacchino supporters as Zimmer, but the divide between likes and dislikes are still there.
Also, Hunter, I was refering to DAK’s comment.
That situation was a response to a thing I posted, so I’m still responsible.
DAK’s, Skelly’s, & gururu’s perception of the Rogue One score (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfrCNDpfUeo)
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I’m pretty sure they both make some great scores time to time. That kind of statement is just stupid. Regardless if you like his scores or music less or not, still to do that it’s really dumb.
Still, I can’t wait for Rogue One and Ponyo is a cringe.
Eh. You get used to him after a while, once you actually get kind with him. That is if you even bother, of course. Being a teenager doesn’t help.
We just need all those fights about it being disappointing and not nearly as great as Williams’ scores.
Patience. It’ll get here. Delayed gratification builds character.
Lord knows some on the shrine could use a little character building.
Or just a little character.
Maybe Santa could bring them some for Christmas.
That isn’t really correct though. He is asked to compose everything (or nearly) than Disney produces.
But the question is: is that in man years?
Actually, I’ve started this thread just so our fellow Bart Oss could write about this score being available for him to generously share with us at some point – like he did with Dr Strange (I think it was Dr Strange… the dude is really spoiling us!). His response seems to be non-offended or annoyed by my impatience and quite positive. I don’t see any problems with a request thread like that, especially on a request-section of this board…
Actually, I’ve started this thread just so our fellow Bart Oss could write about this score being available for him to generously share with us at some point – like he did with Dr Strange (I think it was Dr Strange… the dude is really spoiling us!). His response seems to be non-offended or annoyed by my impatience and quite positive. I don’t see any problems with a request thread like that, especially on a request-section of this board…
Why would you make a thread when you KNOW Bart Oss is gonna share it as soon as it’s available? That’s the point being here, to me, at least. It’s as simple as doing the waiting game. Also, define "generously sharing" when his shares are monetized so gets a share of money of the downloads.. and have a lot of horrible malware that could fuck up computers.
So because someone is successful, they become the new… whoever was successful before? :/
Why aren’t we getting any new Mozarts then? I mean, that’s how it works, right?
I agree that most moviegoers have no idea who Giacchino is in regards to movies. However, if Rogue One is a hit, and the early responses seem to indicate it will be, the issue of name recognition might change. Williams is known because his music is associated with a lot of hit films. (He was also the conductor of the Boston Pops, an orchestra that has achieve a kind of recognition in American pop culture.)
It takes a combination of luck, skill and timing to break into the consciousness of the average person. We know the names of composers the way a sports fan knows his team’s roster by heart but we a relatively small part of the movie going audience and we can’t assume the everyone else is as fervent as we are in our devotion or interest.
I honestly doubt the average ticket holder is anymore aware of Zimmer than they are of Giacchino.
I’m pretty sure they both make some great scores time to time. That kind of statement is just stupid. Regardless if you like his scores or music less or not, still to do that it’s really dumb.
In my opinion, Giacchino is still the better composer. Yes, I know no one asked. But I’m just saying.
Thanks, I appreciate that. Still, can’t be too careful on these forums.
Ya, Jefferson Starship!
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Lmao Lockdown your attempt to shit on me backfired completely. The same thing you made an effort to look on threads just to find something to make me look wrong, why didn’t you copypaste too, the posts I made on the Pok�mon Sun and Moon 3DS gamerips where I said myself that I was not downloding those and simply patiently waiting?
In those posts, do you see any impatience, from me, when I said I was waiting to the official soundtrack release in CD, an You think, me, gently asking ONCE, to a trusty uploader of Pok�mon CD’s, to upload the CD, is really being really impatient, and having asked him a day after release? You pretty much took the comments for your liking and purposedly took them out of context to prove me wrong. Yes, my friend, because simply asking someone who usually shares Pok�mon stuff if he was gonna share it, just once, a few days after it’s out, CLEARLY is an act of impatience. That’s one time, days after release. Yes, that’s a lot of times, and that’s a lot of impatience, CLEARLY. Those two posts were made the same day, and in only the first time I ask if he’s gonna upload it. Just once. Way to take shit out of context. 😉
Seriously, get lost with your piss poor attempt of making me look like shit. You failed. Go home. As for any of you wanting to act offended for my comments, I didn’t do no wrong. I just said, pretty much the truth. There’s no need for impatience here with this score when we all know it’s a huge one and we’re getting it Day 1 or maybe even a day earlier. It’s happened a lot of times. Why make a fuss out of it.THANK YOU! 🙂
Some Just Like to Hear and Enjoy The Music.
Others Just Like To Take The Fun Out Of It And Make You Look Like A Twat For Liking It/Or The Composer.
There are people who think we should all hold hands and pretend to be at ease with the preferences of others.
I’m not one of those people.
If people like Giacchino, or Brian Tyler, or Zimmer, or any other uninspired composer, that’s totally cool. And if you think those three guys are talented people, awesome. If you can articulate to me why they’re good composers, then damn son, go for it. Tell me why I’m wrong to think Giacchino hasn’t got any spark.
But I’m not going to not criticize them just because I’m afraid someone’s feewings might get hurt.
Carol = Casey.
Digital elective gender reassignment.
That’s how crappy he is.
What a horrible thing to say.
What does him being crappy (as if) have to do with it? The opportunity for anyone other than John Williams to score a Star Wars film is such a rare one. That’s a huge factor that you completely disregarded.
>Not recognizing blatant trolling
Come on dude
But that doesn’t mean I won’t say how horrible of a thing it was. :p
There’s not much harm in it unless it’s made into some sort of epidemic. But why would it be?
And even then. Trolls only cause harm if we let it happen.
It’s certainly because he made friends in high places.
Maybe that’s because George Lucas still had his hand on the franchise, and only had 3 films left in mind, so Williams still remained the choice then.
This Giacchino guy was just doing video game and TV stuff at that time, and maybe a film or so there. He hadn’t hit big yet.
Times change, don’t they?
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Mike Giacchino = sack of shit
Blame the studio for hiring what has now become the new safe choice for film scoring (particularly Disney). I wouldn’t the blame the man himself for being easily hired by pretty much everyone NOT named Warner Bros.
Giacchino Man is the Donald Trump of movie music.
And if you don’t see how cynical this is, you are not a true fan.
Bird got him started working on Pixar’s The Incredibles and Rataouille, after which I’m sure Disney’s attentions on Giacchino were heightened.
After Abrams was given the director’s chair for MI:3 he brought Giacchino in to because they’d worked together on LOST.
Worlds collided and now everyone in Hollywood has Giacchino fever, for better or for worse.
Bear McCreary, despite to my ear being a better composer, a more daring one, hasn’t yet made the right connections to get into scoring a big film. But he did Cloverfield 2 this past year, so maybe he’ll finally be getting some nicer gigs soon.
I don’t know why I care this much about this, considering I’m not in the best mood to listen to film scores.
I don’t even know the man well, so why am I bothering? Devil’s advocate perhaps? I don’t know.
He’s always been happy about his scores that be posts about on Facebook.
It’s not like he’s posting stuff like "Dream Big" or "Hang in there" kitty posters about doing movies.
If he gets a movie, great. If not, he’s an opportunist. He’ll do what he can and enjoy.
Bird got him started working on Pixar’s The Incredibles and Rataouille, after which I’m sure Disney’s attentions on Giacchino were heightened.
After Abrams was given the director’s chair for MI:3 he brought Giacchino in to because they’d worked together on LOST.
Worlds collided and now everyone in Hollywood has Giacchino fever, for better or for worse.
Bear McCreary, despite to my ear being a better composer, a more daring one, hasn’t yet made the right connections to get into scoring a big film. But he did Cloverfield 2 this past year, so maybe he’ll finally be getting some nicer gigs soon.
Even before Brad Bird and J.J. Abrams.
Giacchino actually met Steven Spielberg in 1996 or ’97, during the development of The Lost World: Jurassic Park (also during the making of the film itself). Spielberg, being heavily involved in the video game development at DreamWorks, and having just heard the first piece Michael wrote (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nm_vgFN-JtE) for the showcase the developers prepared to have shown, wanted the score to be performed by a live orchestra. "It has to be done with a live orchestra.", was what he said. This was the first of any of Michael Giacchino’s music to be done this way. And following that game’s score, Steven asked Giacchino to compose for Medal of Honor (a series which Spielberg created). And then sometime shortly after that you have J.J. Abrams calling him about Alias, and so on and so forth. The meeting with Spielberg set off a chain reaction, essentially, and it was just that early in his career. Friends in high places.
Given all the above circumstances, Giacchino’s position in the current year of 2016 should come as no surprise.
About half of Hollywood directors and producers don’t know squat about decent film scores. That’s been made quite evident in the past couple years.
Most commonly, the composer’s creativity space is suppressed or dumbed-down.
Go sit in the corner.
Just my two cents: John Williams studied piano and composition at a young age and worked as a Jazz and classical pianist since early adulthood BEFORE he made the right connections. Giacchino’s early career had jackshit to do with music other than "admiring Williams" and only later did he "take music classes at the Juilliard School".
I’m not even sure if he plays an instrument (or can even conduct) himself because the main thing his music lacks is something Williams excells at: "Long-form symphonic writing" or in simpler words "telling a story with music by an orchestra instead of words" which differs from "expressing an emotional state with an orchestra" which about any film composer can do anyways. I also don’t attribute the superb quality of Medal of Honor to him but his orchestrators, and he needs a ton of them if anything decent is to come out. Secret Weapons over Normandy alone was "orchestrated" by Tim Simonec, Larry Kenton, Matthew Ferraro, Steve Zuckerman, Chris Tilton, & Mark Gasbarroon. Granted Williams was at his best when his music was orchestrated by Spencer but the fundamental difference is that Williams knows how "film music" works and Giacchino only paints a silhouette of the real thing.
Williams music is full of musical history: Almost every work is full of the classical and romantic repertoire as well as Golden Age references. He lives and breathes "classical music" which is the root of any great film music. In comparision I just don’t hear anything worthwhile coming from Giacchino’s music because he does not inherit the very essence of worthwhile compositions from past to present (something I will remember instantly, even after years have passed) and I will bet all my money that in 100 years nobody will even remember who he was and why people were so hot about him those days, all while Williams music will still be studied, celebrated, played in concerts and dearly loved.
Thankfully William Ross and many others will save Rogue One from falling short of standard and make it a fun callback to the good old days of cinema but I doubt it will stay in people’s memories longer than a few months.
You make a very good point here.
It is very interesting to compare score sketches (i.e. what the composer writes) and the orchestrator’s manuscripts (i.e., what the orchestrators produce from that sketch). John Williams for each cue writes a very thorough composition, and Eddie Karam, Conrad Pope, or whoever will make it more legible – they’re essentially copyists. This is very rare.
It would be interesting to see how Giacchino sketches out cues, and how they’re transformed by an orchestrator. One might see where the real talent is coming from.
Film scores community bitching about how not everyone can be John Williams.
Or anime scores community thinking Hiroyuki Sawano is actually a good composer.
Disney has tight control over its intellectual properties.
But what Williams does is not (and never will be) magic. He only has his untouchable status right now because he has trained harder than anyone else in his lifetime. He writes one new piece of music everyday (at least he said so) and has decades of experience working in the business. But you can understand and learn the basic things he does and why they work so well and impact you by looking at the one common trait he shares with every other great composers of past and present who made music that even your grandkids will still hum in the bathtub: They all studied classical composition. Goldsmith did, Poledouris did, Morricone did, Hisaishi did and James Horner was just a walking dictionary of the classical world’s best moments. Even before that the first film music masters were classical composers straight from the concert hall. Early cinema was scored like Opera and that’s where themes and leitmotifs came from (all made popular in the 19th century).
Classical music does not mean snobbish "high art" but a musical standard, formed by centuries of applied practices, experimentation and musicial inventions that impact the human brain and provoke emotions and interest. If a composer has mastered it, his music will be far richer and more interesting for it, because he can now hold the audience’s attention with a piece of music longer than 10 minutes, spin a story from his mind with just notes on a piece of paper that can say more than the greatest of war speeches because he analyzed with how little notes Mahler or Ravel created the most epic sounds on earth. This is what separates Giacchino from the likes of Williams, not talent but a level of education he could potentially overcome if only the environment would call for it. As of right now he only tries to imitate a great composer instead of becoming the next great one. And that’s not good enough for me.
There’s no doubt that Giacchino is able to craft great scores… Personally, I truly love his works for JJ’s "Super 8" and "Star Trek", and surely there are some other great scores from him (other persons more experienced than me can tell it way better than I can).
But from the very few scores of him that I heard these recent years (say "Doctor Strange" and, partially, "Jurassic World"), I think that he has way more chance to make a great score when he has time and has a director he already worked with in the past (Brad Bird, JJ Abrams, Pete Docter). And I’m very afraid of what "Spider-Man: Homecoming" will be like.
But this is my impression, based on my very limited skills (and listens of said scores), that can be easily proven wrong.
As for his score for Rogue One, having extremely little time to make it and being a collaboration with a new director, I fear it has very little chances of being as great as his "Super 8" or "Star Trek" scores.
But I’m still hopeful for a surprise! 😀
Is it too much to ask that we give the score a chance? Listen to the score and then make up our minds?
Or are we like the Red Queen in asserting "sentence first, verdict afterwards?"
The only good thing to be said on this thread.
Thank you very much for keeping us informed, dear sir!
The scores suffered because Shore was entirely spent after An Unexpected Journey. But yeah, also that.
Surely you don’t mean PM?
Well, it’s out in the wild (https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/5icni3/confirmation_of_soundtrack_titles/?st=iwpizbds&sh=e84ec557), so it’s only a matter of time now…
WHY ISN’T IT UPLOADED YET? IT SHOULD BE HERE NOW! COME ON! I WANT IT NOW! IF YOU DON’T UPLOAD IT, I’LL BE PISSED! COME ON! I DESERVE THIS! I NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS! COME ON! NOW NOW NOW!! AND NO THANKS FROM ME! I WANT IT NOOOOOOOOOOOW!! I WON’T LIVE IF I DON’T GET IT NOW!
Please do.
WHY ISN’T IT UPLOADED YET? IT SHOULD BE HERE NOW! COME ON! I WANT IT NOW! IF YOU DON’T UPLOAD IT, I’LL BE PISSED! COME ON! I DESERVE THIS! I NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS! COME ON! NOW NOW NOW!! AND NO THANKS FROM ME! I WANT IT NOOOOOOOOOOOW!! I WON’T LIVE IF I DON’T GET IT NOW!
I thought you were going to be patient?
WHY ISN’T IT UPLOADED YET? IT SHOULD BE HERE NOW! COME ON! I WANT IT NOW! IF YOU DON’T UPLOAD IT, I’LL BE PISSED! COME ON! I DESERVE THIS! I NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS! COME ON! NOW NOW NOW!! AND NO THANKS FROM ME! I WANT IT NOOOOOOOOOOOW!! I WON’T LIVE IF I DON’T GET IT NOW!
You’re an embarrassment. And yes, I know you post shit like this because you have a pathological need for attention, but is it too much to ask for a little bit of grace?
Answer: yes, because Ponyo has zero impulse control.
No but seriously. I was trying to mock the obsessive impatient people. I failed and made a fool of myself? Of course. As always. But nothing about that comment was serious. I’ll grab the thing after I see the movie.
Peace out.
nope :3
Peace out.
You’re not. I have had threads made about me, but so have you. I know the feeling. It sucks.
Totally untrue. I’ve felt like an idiot or have said something stupid a lot of occasions too. Maybe nobody noticed, but it still goes.
Yes! Now people can die happily having the next Giacchino score they were so patient about! :laugh:
Until the next big one comes along! XD Also, I’m not miserable, nor a troll, might as well be you, darling.
You Fool! Idiot! Silly-Stupid-Foolish Person!
:p
We’ll soon get this year’s fourth Giacchino’s score AND a new Star Wars score. And it’s pretty good thing, don’t you think? Don’t spoil everything by fighting with some miserable troll on Internet.
:this:
Damn! Straight!
:p
Hur-hur-hur. I mean…ho-ho-ho.
Calm down Santa
I wish he’d come back from the Hamptons.
Calm down Santa
I am calm… but Rogue One’ll probably throw me off the rails.
With all the fuss I’m extremely curious now.. I’ll download it after seeing the movie.
As for anyone waiting, it should be out sometime tomorrow, if not friday.
Well I have my alarm set for 7AM then!
Yeah, I have it, along with all the prequels.
6 AM for me, I think.
Yeah, I have it, along with all the prequels.
Gimmie
:this:
Do not forget "Super 8"! 😉
As for myself, I’m not hating him, but I’m worried about Rogue One because, despite his talent, he made some blockbuster scores recently that I didn’t enjoy that much ("Doctor Strange", "Star Trek Beyond", partially "Jurassic World"). But it’s probably just me not having listened to the score enough times to truly appreciate them.
But I think many of those who criticize him are simply disappointed by some of his works, knowing he’s a very, very talented composer.
Now I’ve read some positive comments about his "Rogue One" score, so I’m hopeful for something nice (at least) from this 😀
The Entire movie score is cool, I like it but it’s really in the last 25min that you have the great part 🙂
You know what? I’ve just remembered – Michael Giacchino is freaking fantastic composer!
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The last song of the movie "Hope" is a great track ! Really, with some dark choirs…(Dark Side :p)
The Entire movie score is cool, I like it but it’s really in the last 25min that you have the great part 🙂
And now you’re going to brag about having it before anyone else. Seen that, young mister, not amusing in a slightest.
It’s a very decent war music. That’s the reason why i am looking forward to rogue one, since MG said he composed a World War 2 movie score.
You know what? I’ve just remembered – Michael Giacchino is freaking fantastic composer!
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And now you’re going to brag about having it before anyone else. Seen that, young mister, not amusing in a slightest.
Not at all….I’m just giving some details about the score….Is it wrong ? I don’t think so. I’m just sharing my "little" opinion about the score, not about the movie, not about the story etc…
Cheers 🙂
I’ve never had the chance of playing that game or listening to its music.
Cheers 🙂
I think you’ll have your answer by listening the full score (available now) 🙂 Anyways, the Jyn Erso’s theme is great, beautiful BUT when I saw the movie yesterday (France), one music make me feel like, you know, I’m in a Star Wars movie; with strange noises etc (”Guardians of the Whills Suite” ). Everyone here must know that Vadpr theme is not really in the movie…One scene is just ”WOW” and when I saw that scene, I’ve got chills everywhere ! 😀 It’s a cool & fun movie, and the music had a great influence as always, so Giacchino composed a great score, really 🙂 (Sorry for my english haha)
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Sorry. The forum has this horrible experience with users stating (bull-shiting) that they have some of the anticipated scores and then being jerks and not share them with the others. There’s Batman v Superman thread somewhere, that is a great (and regretful) showcase of this. Horror. Horror…
Haha I know…don"t worry 🙂 I’m not going to spoil anything 🙂