Nintendo Switch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvcEJ9LIHz8

I expected dissapointement. I expected Nintendo to just pull out a shitty Treehouse sketch and just anounce an announcemen date. but.. no, they revealed the thing. And.. it’s looking.. pretty nifty! I’m gonna try to not build up my hype to unrealistic amounts, and I’m gonna try to remain a bit skeptical, but so far.. thing’s looking pretty good. I could.. finally leave all my hard-earned shekels in one Nintendo console and possibly have all the big multiplat games I’m missing in PS4 and Xbox ONE! I better start prostituing myself to get the possible 400 euros this thing is gonna coast. I mean.. look at all the developers that have signed on to develop for the thing.. INCLUDING Bethesda and FromSoftware.

An official press release showcasing all the developers and studios that have signed on to support the Nintendo Switch:
505 Games
• Activision Publishing, Inc.
• ARC SYSTEM WORKS Co., Ltd.
• ATLUS CO., LTD.
• Audiokinetic Inc.
• Autodesk, Inc.
• BANDAI NAMCO Entertainment Inc.
• Bethesda
• CAPCOM CO., LTD.
• Codemasters�
• CRI Middleware Co., Ltd.
• DeNA Co., Ltd.
• Electronic Arts
• Epic Games Inc.
• Firelight Technologies
• FromSoftware, Inc.
• Frozenbyte
• GameTrust
• GRASSHOPPER MANUFACTURE INC．
• Gungho Online Entertainment, Inc.
• HAMSTER Corporation
• Havok
• INTI CREATES CO., LTD.
• KOEI TECMO GAMES CO., LTD.
• Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
• LEVEL-5 Inc.
• Marvelous Inc.
• Maximum Games, LLC
• Nippon Ichi Software, Inc.
• Parity Bit Inc.
• PlatinumGames Inc.
• RAD Game Tools, Inc.
• RecoChoku Co., Ltd.
• SEGA Games Co., Ltd.
• Silicon Studio Corporation
• Spike Chunsoft Co., Ltd.
• SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD.
• Starbreeze Studios
• Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc.
• Telltale Games
• THQ Nordic
• Tokyo RPG Factory Co., Ltd.
• TT Games
• UBISOFT
• Ubitus Inc.
• Unity Technologies, Inc.
• Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
• Web Technology Corp

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/

Let’s not forget my friends; what we saw in this video is Skyrim, NBA games.. a new Mario game. Possibly ports or sequels of Splatoon and Mario Kart.. but Skyrim. SKYRIM. If Skyrim gets in a Nintendo console.. anything else could! Imagine Dark Souls.. Fallout 4.. ROckstar.. all of the other BIG multiplat titles that you missed for only having a Nintendo console.. could appear now in this!

It looks good? I guess?
I don’t play video games anymore. All I know is that the Wii U version of Zelda had better be equal to or maybe even better than the NX version. Like TP for GameCube. God that was a great console.

I’m assuming the Wii U version of Breath of the Wild will be the same. It’s just you’ll get a better perfomance in the NX, and portability. The graphics.. will be much the same, with minor differences.

I thought it funny how all these hip, trendy people were using the NX when the real demographic is basemen-dwelling geek virgins.

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I’m assuming the Wii U version of Breath of the Wild will be the same. It’s just you’ll get a better perfomance in the NX, and portability. The graphics.. will be much the same, with minor differences.

Yeah that’s the way it was for Twilight Princess. Ask anyone and they’ll tell you the GCN version > Wii version

I thought it funny how all these hip, trendy people were using the NX when the real demographic is basemen-dwelling geek virgins.

I guess I’m a basement-dwelling geek virgin.. but I already knew that. :laugh:

Yeah that’s the way it was for Twilight Princess. Ask anyone and they’ll tell you the GCN version > Wii version

As far as I know there was very little difference between those versions, other than the mirror, really. Graphical and even definition, the same.

Speaking of Zelda, it pisses me off that this is an NX launch title.
Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD were both supposed to tide us over for Breath of the Wild.
Incessant delays amidst promises from Aonuma that the game WOULD be released on the Wii U.
Now I feel like the only reason it’s coming out for that console is so that they keep to their word. :eye:

Pretty much so, yes.

Looks… interesting.

I’m going to wait for more info though.

Totally not buying the koolaid hype.

It’s Nintendo saying goodbye to console competition. PS4.5 and Scorpio is where the AAA games are going to be. This is a more powerful NDS that you can connect to your TV. Which is fine, I’m not a console or PC master race hardcore gamer. But definitely gonna wait for specs and game lineup.

Nintendo is just doing bussiness wise. They know they can’t be a contender on home consoles anymore so they retreat to the market they dominate, the handheld. There will be your usual Marios, Karts, Zeldas, etc. and third party games that will be exclusive for the console and take advantage of it. And again, it’s fine. But it’s a totally different game from what Sony and Microsoft will be doing now.

You’re wrong about it, and you’ll see when it comes out. It’s basically the most powerful handheld, to near PS4-Xbox One powers, in a handheld which is an impressive feat enough, and it’ll reach TV so it’ll serve as both a console and handheld. I don’t know why the negativity

You’re wrong about it, and you’ll see when it comes out. It’s basically the most powerful handheld, to near PS4-Xbox One powers, in a handheld which is an impressive feat enough, and it’ll reach TV so it’ll serve as both a console and handheld. I don’t know why the negativity

:laugh:

Let’s see how fast third Party Developers will jump Ship this Time.

Not sure that’s gonna happen

Don’t know why they didn’t push it a bit and released it for Christmas,
would have given it a good Start, they don’t need to be afraid of the Competition,
the Pitch is strong enough.

Game Cards i like, let’s see how good they can handle digital backwards Compatibility…
Don’t make People buy the same Game for the third Time…

Switch Controllers seem a bit gimmicky, but good for local Coop.

Let’s see if they were able to secure strong new exclusive IPs.

And for God’s Sake, give the People a new proper Metroid Game.

I am hoping i’ll get a new Rayman Game outta this.

They’re releasing it in March because they feel it won’t be ready for Christmas. Better that than to hurry up a console to not perfect it and make it another Wii U with problems.

I actually wish for a new Rayman Game too.

You’re wrong about it, and you’ll see when it comes out. It’s basically the most powerful handheld, to near PS4-Xbox One powers, in a handheld which is an impressive feat enough, and it’ll reach TV so it’ll serve as both a console and handheld. I don’t know why the negativity

It’s not negativity, it’s being realistic. Nintendo knows it’s strenght and it is handhelds. The Tegra chip is good, but comparing it to the bells and whistles than the PS4 and Xbox One updates are going to bring is pointless. And again, I’m not on the "I love MS or Sony" side. I could care less who "wins". Just pointing out that people are reacting like the second coming of Jesus and this is hardly anything more than a (very robust, I concede) NDS that connects to the TV.

Aha, but you’re forgetting it’s a CUSTOM Tegra chip more powerful than the other existing ones.. it’s a new whle thing developed for scratch.

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/

Do you people even bother to read?

"With great graphics, loads of game titles and incredible performance"

But creating a device so fun required some serious engineering. The development encompassed 500 man-years of effort across every facet of creating a new gaming platform: algorithms, computer architecture, system design, system software, APIs, game engines and peripherals. They all had to be rethought and redesigned for Nintendo to deliver the best experience for gamers, whether they’re in the living room or on the move.

Nintendo Switch is powered by the performance of the custom Tegra processor. The high-efficiency scalable processor includes an NVIDIA GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce gaming graphics cards.

The Nintendo Switch’s gaming experience is also supported by fully custom software, including a revamped physics engine, new libraries, advanced game tools and libraries. NVIDIA additionally created new gaming APIs to fully harness this performance. The newest API, NVN, was built specifically to bring lightweight, fast gaming to the masses.

Do you people even bother to read?

Apparently you don’t either. No specs, no real data. Only air. I’ve done my research on the chip, long before the Switch announcement when everything was rumors. It’s a fine piece of hardware, but it is not a powerhouse on it’s own and I really doubt Nintendo is dumb enough to invest their bet on "graphics". Remember, it’s not only the chip that sustains the machine, so there has to be a lot under the hood that we don’t know yet, and I doubt they’re gonna go the pricey route. They know their game is making an affordable, nice looking machine that plays their games.

Apparently you don’t either. No specs, no real data. Only air. I’ve done my research on the chip, long before the Switch announcement when everything was rumors. It’s a fine piece of hardware, but it is not a powerhouse on it’s own and I really doubt Nintendo is dumb enough to invest their bet on "graphics". Remember, it’s not only the chip that sustains the machine, so there has to be a lot under the hood that we don’t know yet, and I doubt they’re gonna go the pricey route. They know their game is making an affordable, nice looking machine that plays their games.

What I quoted literally says it’s not just a copypaste of the Tegra chip, that it’s custom made specifically for Tegra, that it’s powerful, but okay, just you wait til it’s released

What I quoted literally says it’s not just a copypaste of the Tegra chip, that it’s custom made specifically for Tegra, that it’s powerful, but okay, just you wait til it’s released

A custom tegra is still a tegra. If it was another thing, it would be named so. Sure, optimized and everything. But still a tegra. As you said, we will see.

Question: If a Tegra is supposed to be primarily a mobile thing, how the fuck does it run Skyrim and all that?

Just because it can run Skyrim doesn’t mean anything else than that it is as powerful as a five year old middle Class PC…

Marketing Mumbo Jumbo doesn’t mean diddly Squat.

It’s pointless to bash each other’s Heads in about what might or might not be,
wait until Nintendo releases some Facts regarding it’s Hardware before doing that.

Just because it can run Skyrim doesn’t mean anything else than that it is as powerful as a five year old middle Class PC…

It’s supposed to be the remaster, which only current consoles can run.

Still, you do have a point.

Everything is presumption at this point. We for sure don’t know what it can do or can’t, just talking by the few facts we base our assumptions. I saw people saying that Zelda sttutered on the commercial when going portable. It’s a fallacy, for all we know it’s just a mockup. We will know more the moment we see line up, specs and hands on review.

And yes, I’m aware I’m part of the game and discussion. That doesn’t mean I can’t understand the concepts.

It is just a mockup. Anything you saw on those screens was added in post-production.

Nintendo will reveal more full details about the Switch, specs, release day, games, etc, in January 12th, 2017.

They likely don’t want to release details sooner so that consumers don’t hold off on buying games. That’d be disastrous considering Christmas is coming in a couple months.

Does anyone think it’s worth getting a WiiU at this point?

I mean, how good is the Wii BC?

I’d love to be able to get rid of my Wii and have a WiiU.

I mean. Most of the good Wii U games are suposedly being ported to the Switch, but they’re just rumours.

It’s up to you. Not all of the Wii U games will be ported. It depends of how much you truly liek the Wii U’s catalogue

The Wii U is also backwards compatible with Wii games… another reason I got the Wii U myself.

I learned my lesson from buying launch consoles… I’ll wait a year or so for the bugs to ironed out, price drop and a more sizable game catalog before looking at getting one myself.

The Wii U is also backwards compatible with Wii games… another reason I got the Wii U myself.
I learned my lesson from buying launch consoles… I’ll wait a year or so for the bugs to ironed out, price drop and a more sizable game catalog before looking at getting one myself.
How is the BC on the WiiU?

It is PS2 levels of ‘just drop and play the PS1 game’ or is it more involved?
I’m more worried about any issues of playing games.

My Wii is actually running really nicely, that’s what happens when you treat hardware well, but I’m thinking of giving it to my grandma so she can have a Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Prime player.

How is the BC on the WiiU?

It is PS2 levels of ‘just drop and play the PS1 game’ or is it more involved?
I’m more worried about any issues of playing games.

It works very well, but the thing is is that the Wii U actually has it’s own version of the Wii OS that it can run (referred to as the vWii). What you have to do is turn on the system, go to the apps, and click on the Wii one, which will ask you to use the Wii remote to confirm. Then, it will take you to the very familiar Wii menu, which you know where to go from there.

So not quite the plug and play of the PSX on PS2, but it’s still pretty easy. The picture will be nicely upscaled on the games the Wii best excells at visually. All games should be able to run in the exact same fashion that they did in the original console. I’ll have people know though that it’s not as effective to use homebrew on vWii than the real one, since it crashes far more often, and without a reset button, you’ll be pulling the plug on the console a lot.

Eyecatching for sure. Still, I’m cold feet about Nintendo for some time. Since GC my expectations around their systems have been getting lower and lower. GC had some stuff to play with and although I bought a Wii for the backwards compat with it, I don’t have as many titles as I have for PS3 and XBOX 360. I have no intentions of buying a Wii U because of the backwards compat again and so far my Wii U’s wishlist has almost nothing compared to the titles I want to play on PS4, even though the real exclusives are few.
But that’s just me. I stopped buying launch systems and games a long time ago, I prefer to wait a lot more before deciding on buying it, the headache is never worth it and have I had my share.

So apparently the new Zelda is being delayed AGAIN. It won’t even launch with the Switch. This is getting embarrassing.

So apparently the new Zelda is being delayed AGAIN. It won’t even launch with the Switch. This is getting embarrassing.

R U M O U R.

I’ve got a source that confirms it’s still releasing in launch.

Ah, your uncle works at Nintendo?

No, an online friend of mine who works in marketing and has a friend in Nintendo. I asked them: "Do you confirm that Zelda Breath of the Wild is indeed releasing in March?" and they said: "No. But I can confirm that the bug testing team is working with a march schedule in mind. And they don’t know of any plans to push it back further. It could be delayed, but to this point in time, I heard no convincing evidence otherwise."

Please stop believing rumours. And just wait til Nintendo says shit. It has not been confirmed by Nintendo themselves.

Well I hope that they at least keep their promise about it releasing on WiiU… I’m not buying a Switch.

That’s for certain. Another RUMOUR, says it might release first in Wii U and then Switch, but it’s not likely.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they were to do the reverse and pull a Twilight Princess. If anything it might mean the Wii U version would be superior.

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Does anyone think it’s worth getting a WiiU at this point?

A little late on this, but I’d say go for a Wii U.
It’s fully backwards-compatible with Wii; you cna transfer your old Wii data to the U; and it’s not like the Switch will be backwards-compatible with anything. 🙁
The only minor quibble I have is that it doesn’t accept GCN games, but it’s not a big deal.

I think they should’ve put GCN games to the Wii U VC, why Wii, why everything but GCN? GCN has some great games that would benefit

It’s baffling. They have Gameboy games (why???) on the eShop but to this day still fail to have ANY GCN games.
I think the Wii Shop Channel has more N64 games than the eShop, but maybe Nintendo’s finally updated that recently.

Well, you can still buy whatever was in the Wii Shop from the Wii U’s Virtual Wii console.

Oh yeah! 😛
But how would one even play an N64 games? They didn’t even release dongles for GCN controllers until like two years after launch. There were just so many weird decisions made in regards to the Wii U.

Gamecube games on Wii U are only possible through a Homebrew app, since it SOMEHOW still has Gamecube hardware in there (due to Wii hardware still having enough to it realistically run it).

I have a feeling that a Gamecube Virtual Console will happen at some point, it’s just Nintendo’s waiting for the right time so they can benefit the most from it (At a Nintendo Direct? E3? Who knows?).

Because trust me, once they reveal it, their audience is gonna be all over it, especially the Smash Bros. Melee competitive scene who will be flocking in droves for a potential portable version of their sacred fighting game in HD.

Meanwhile I just patiently wait for Paper Mario: Thousand-Year Door to get such treatment.

I’m looking forward to the Switch. I hope they port some of the tales games like Vesperia and some of the Falcom YS games. I also hope that they port all the current Dragon Quest games into a dragon quest collection. I’m sure 1-6 could fit on a cartridge, with separate cartridges for 7, 8, 9. It doesn’t need to be hd ports either, although I would love if they remastered FF IX a la FFX. Also would love it if we could have a Zelda Wind Waker, Twilight Princess on the Switch as they look good and I haven’t played them.

The biggest game I want remastered for the Switch is Xenosaga. I love those games.

Zelda Wind Waker, Twilight Princess on the Switch .

Nintendo has already whored out Zelda wayyy to much for Switch remakes to be a possibility anytime soon.

Skyward Sword DOES need the HD remake treatment badly though. The game has got a nice visual style fucked up by the Wii’s SD limitations.

When upscaled by Dolphin, Skyward Sword is amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGj5Qn0zkL4

Oh wait, they’re getting rid of motion contorls.

The whole gimmick about Skyward Sword was its motion controls though. That was literally its only reason for existing.

I guess. I haven’t owned a nintendo console since the super nintendo. Not enough games I liked to spend the cash on. I’m hoping this will change. Maybe the switch will support a virtual store and I can get them that way. I also wouldn’t mind a update of The Last Story. I like the videos I saw and own the soundtrack which is awesome.

I’m really looking forward to the Nintendo Switch.

It seems like a great idea, but the only thing I’m kinda skeptical about is the Joycon. They seem like they make take a little while to get used to (assuming they are as small as they look) but in anycase, overall, the console will be amazing to play on.

if you played wii, youll get used to the controls very quickly.
even though i prefered to play with my controller pro more, but i had no problem playing wiimote exclusive games

Yeah, people bitch about how hard it was to play Donkey Kong Country 4 with shaking the Wiimote, but I never had a single problem with it. I guess those people just really missed buttons. :noonecares:

Well, apparently Target leaked Zelda is releasing june 13th, 2017… So check your source to confirm who’s right.

That date has been up on Target for a few months I think.

Reports say that the console will cost a comparatively low ~$250.
Personally I’m still not interested, but Nintendo seems pretty desperate for good console sales after the disastrous Wii U.

I just hope it’s not as under powered as some reports are saying…

It seems like every Nintendo console is underpowered. I never understood why they didn’t just try and break the mold, create some ultra-powerful 4K beast. Just to see what would happen.

The "power" argument is really tiring. Nintendo just does their own thing and that’s what makes them Nintendo. It’s not underpowered. Just close to PS4 and Xbox One instead of topping them but that doens’t mean at all that the games will be shit on it? It’s pretty much a handheld with console graphics, and possibility to put on a TV. The fact that they’re selling all this power for 250 is pretty nice.

It seems like every Nintendo console is underpowered. I never understood why they didn’t just try and break the mold, create some ultra-powerful 4K beast. Just to see what would happen.

Nintendo usually isn’t in the business of producing games whose pull is cutting-edge graphics. What’s the point of cramming in expensive, top-of-the-line hardware if their games will never make extensive use of it?

In fact, the power they have put into this console, is just so they can have third party support for most current games as possible. That, and they’re probably gonna offer the tablet with the better graphics currently.

The "it’s not about the graphics and Nintendo knows better" argument is tiring too.

The "it’s not about the graphics and Nintendo knows better" argument is tiring too.
It was fine with the Wii, but at this point?
Yeah…

Nintendo is just fucking stupid at this point.

3rd Party support, given how little faith a LOT of people have in them after the WiiU, will made the Switch sink or fail…unless they actual do more than three games a year worth playing.

…unless they actual do more than three games a year worth playing.

Doesn’t look like it so far. I’m not even interested in Zelda for the Switch; i’m getting it for Wii U. There’s a Switch info presentation tonight that I might try to catch, maybe they’ll announce some actually good launch titles (i.e. not the same Mario game over and over)

I would by the Switch, maybe not till Black Friday, but still…I’d buy the damn thing NEW if I KNEW Nintendo was giving some older franchises some love.

A proper Metriod game.

Hell, I’d buy the fucker for some remastered (like Klonoa for the Wii was, not some Silent Hill HD Collection bullshit) games from the older systems.

Super Mario World with Super Mario Galaxy graphics?
Yes sir!
Super Metriod with modern graphics?
YEP.
Etc, etc, etc.

But….yeah.
Knowing Nintendo?
Not very likely.

Graphics simply have never been a priority of Nintendo’s… their remasters of games often are lackluster in the graphical department. Twilight Princess especially… what a disgusting remaster.

What have we learned today, kids? Nintendo sucks and is the worst!

Hardly, Mr. Hyperbole. But they aren’t staying very competitive for much longer if they don’t make basic changes to how they design their consoles.
The Wii’s success was an exception, not the rule. Nintendo can’t fall back on gameplay gimmicks (especially when they suck, like the U’s gamepad) all the time.

Rumour from 4chan:

Oh yeah, 4chan, very reputable

I’m not saying it’s legit. I’m just sharing something to discuss.

Rumour or not though I still have the feeling Switch will change things. I have a hunch that, you could see Wii U was OBVIOUSLY a game just for Nintendo gamers. But I have the feel Nintendo with Switch wants to get all the people who want the PS4 and Xbox One games but also Nintendo games. Wants to compete, but in their own way. We’ll see in a few hours..

You’re probably on the right track. Having Skyrim in their announcement video is probably indicative of that.

You can also deduct it by how the announcement video is marketed towards all people, specially the young adults, isntead of the typical, family playing marketing vids.

We’ll see how much Trust non-Fanboys still have in Nintendo after the
Slap to the Face that was the Wiiu.

As with any other console, the proof is in the pudding. It really doesn’t matter what it is, how powerful it is or anything like that. What matters is how many great games it has, because without that, who the hell cares? And announcements for games are one thing, but I’m very much a ‘believe it when I actually have the thing’ kind of guy.

There have been lots of good consoles with no games to speak of, at least until it was far too late anyway (Dreamcast, PSP and Vita etc). And lacklustre consoles with tons of great games (Megadrive, Playstation 2 etc). Until the Switch is out and with enough decent games that you feel you *must* own, then its all just talk and hope. Nothing wrong with that, but whatever is said now won’t matter unless it translates into results later. And for that, we’ll just have to wait and see.

If it does go well or doesn’t, I still have it’s beliefs on how it can be.

So, I just come from watching the whole presentation… and by God, my cock’s harder than a fucking Transformer arm.

There were a lot of awesomeness in that presentation but GOD the Zelda trailer gave me MAJOR goosebumps.

I’m looking forward very much to the new Zelda!!
Especially interested in seeing where it takes place in the timeline!! 😀

Not interested in the voice acting though… blech

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Is this a Link we’ve seen before?
Is this a Zelda we’ve seen before?
Or just more reincarnations?
Only two months until we find out! :D:D

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I’ll tell you what doesn’t look appealing… Super Mario Odyssey.
It’s doesn’t even look like a platformer.

Do you ever like changes? Odissey is pretty cool. It’s a open-world platformer, a sandbox. Has all that peope liked about 3D Mario, but enhanced.

Did anyone see Diddy and Dixie name-dropped at the very beginning of the Super Mario trailer?
I thought that was pretty cute.

As I understand it, the Switch doesn’t play Wii games. If that’s still true, it’s a poor decision. The Switch doesn’t appear to have a deep opening lineup of games, Zelda can’t carry all of Nintendo’s water, so it loses a huge inventory of popular games and, let’s face it, no one played the Wii because of its incredible graphics. People played it because it was fun and easy to use. (Hell, the Queen Mum used the Wii. Not playing Resident Evil, that would have been very cool, but Wii bowling.)

Nintendo doesn’t seem to be playing to its strengths but rather its weaknesses.

Additional Dock : $90

Single Joycon/Combo : $49.99/$79.99

Pro Controller : $69.99

Location of fucking Sides : In Orbit

Yeah, that sucks, and so does paying for online gaming and prolly not offering the same "quality" as the other consoles.

As I understand it, the Switch doesn’t play Wii games.

Indeed, no backwards-compatibility. Nintendo is going cartridge-based again – no disc drive this time around.

Additional Dock : $90

Single Joycon/Combo : $49.99/$79.99

Pro Controller : $69.99

Location of fucking Sides : In Orbit

Yeah, those price tags are insane. I guess a consumer who thought that he’d gotten his money’s worth for the Wii U would be happy to splurge on all these Switch accessories, but not me.

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Yeah, that sucks, and so does paying for online gaming and prolly not offering the same "quality" as the other consoles.

Online play is the devil. A money-sucking devil.

Just finished watching the presentation in toto. Random thoughts:

The NX:

Paying for online: fuck you. I didn’t have to do it before, why should I start now? What’s different this time around? Why should you even need to pay for online in the first place? Is my $60 copy of Splatoon 2 going to be worthless unless I’m also paying for online too? Christ.

Region-locking is nonexistent: thank God, about time.

The Switch controller: while playing on TV ("TV Mode"), the controller looks like a piece of shit. You have buttons on the extreme left and right and fuck-all in the middle. In addition, it just looks so cramped. Uh… surely there was a smarter way to design this? I can never imagine myself playing any other way, so if I were to get a Switch, "TV Mode" looks like it will be a burden on my hands. There’s a Pro Controller that’s actually usable, but as ManRay pointed out… that price tag is reprehensible.

Battery life: Up to 6 hours. Very impressive.

Capture button: Cute idea!

Motion capture camera and HD rumbles: Kickass and leaves no small amount of potential for experimental gameplay possibilities.

GAMES:

1-2 SWITCH: This looks fun for about 15 minutes. But as it appears to just be largely experimental, so I can forgive it.
ARMS: Another experimental game, and one I think will not be received very well. It’ll be way too easy – especially for children – to just completely fuck up on account of the sensitive motion controls. Both this game and the former seem like demo shit, stuff that should be pre-installed. Both seem very shallow and only serve to help users understand the Joy-Con’s functionalities… can’t wait to see what the prices are. :rolleyes:
SPLATOON 2: With the original Splatoon, Nintendo finally managed to make a popular new IP that didn’t have anything to do with Mario, so a sequel is reasonable. Never played it though, so I can’t be excited for this one in any way.
SUPER MARIO ODYSSEY: The Mario franchise has never felt more mundane. This time the titular plumber goes to the big city… and meets real humans… yuck. The platforming seems to have been dialed down a notch, though maybe they chose bad spots of the game to showcase.
XENOBLADE CHRONICLES 2: No comment. Hilarious voice acting and dialogue though.
FIRE EMBLEM WARRIORS: Hyrule Warriors was a lot of fun, so I hope Nintendo has similar success in this game.
BREATH OF THE WILD: Finally. FINALLY. After multiple hair-pulling delays, one of Nintendo’s biggest golden gooses returns. Great introduction too – a funny skit with Reggie, Miyamoto, AND Aonuma!

Oh, and of course Europe gets the better Zelda box art.

My hype for the Switch has gone from "where do I have to sign to sell my soul" levels to "fuck you and your whole family" now. Not to mention how they’re being way too confident (obviously Zelda sells the console..) and putting horrible prices for everything. The console. 299.99. Without counting the game you HAVE to buy because no game comes with the Switch. The game can be around 50 dollars. So you end up buying the fucking Switch for 350 dollars or so. Not to mention the accesories. Not to mention the online play. Not to mention the fact that the console’s specs are literally those of a tablet you can find for .. maybe half the price? You can even find a better performing, more powerful Snapdragon chip for the same price in fucking phones.

Seems like I’ll be waiting till Black Friday 2018 to get one.
XD

Good choice, by then, there oughta be a lot of games to choose and the price should go lower.

The NX would’ve been a better name.

Otherwise I don’t really have much of an opinion of the console as I haven’t bothered much to look into it, but mention of the use of cartridges is interesting for one.
Controller looks odd as all hell for another, and in addition…the logo?….Anybody for Domino’s Pizza?

I didn’t end up watching the presentation either; I was preoccupied with some stuff last night, but reception overall seems well – especially coming from Skelly, a guy who ‘hates everything’.

Curious to see what the deal is with Breath of the Wild, as well. It looks absolutely beautiful. Reminds me on No Man’s Sky – that’s a good thing. Wind Waker’s cel-shading infused with the maturity of Twilight Princess(?) and Skyward Sword is also a thought the visuals evoke. (Maybe a bit of Ocarina of Time in there as well?) I remember watching a gameplay video a year or two ago with Miyamoto and Aonuma, and what began to get me excited was it’s impressively vast scale and gorgeous visuals. However, there wasn’t much of any further showcasing by that video if I remember correctly, so I’ll probably want to tune into the presentation when I can.

Concerning the chronological placement; where will it fit in? It’s a wonder where, with how much of a mess the timeline is, as well as knowing that none of the Zelda games were ever really developed with a timeline in mind. At that it was nice to see it set straight once and for all by the means of Hyrule Historia, but that should need a revision soon. :erm:

The Hyrule Historia timeline was bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

What do you mean by that? To me it adds up. Is there a major flaw that I missed? I might have to look at it again, but memory serves fairly clear.

I guess there’s a reason it continues to be debated upon, even after the book’s release. Hm…

EDIT: Oh wait, the image just showed up on my end. :laugh:

I’m still annoyed by the price, but eh, why continue complaning. I’ve calmed down. I know I’m gonna enjoy the damn thing in the end anyway.

That is what matters, anyway, but that still doesn’t change the fact that Nintendo is making a bit of a poor decision with the price range(s) they’ve chosen.

Never denied that.

Didn’t say you did. I was making a more general statement.

No one debates the timeline anymore, HH made sure of that.

Here’s the timeline HH presents…

__________________________________________________ ______Majora’s Mask->Twilight Princess->Four Sword Adventures (THE CHILD TIMELINE)
__________________________________________________ _____/
Skyward Sword->The Minish Cap->Four Swords->Ocarina of Time->The Wind Waker->Phantom Hourglass->Spirit Tracks (THE ADULT TIMELINE)
__________________________________________________ _____\
__________________________________________________ ______A Link to the Past->Oracle of Seasons & Ages->Link’s Awakening->A Link Between Worlds->Tri Force Heroes->The Legend of Zelda->The Adventure of Link (THE DECLINE TIMELINE)

At the end of Ocarina of Time, Zelda sends Link back seven years in time so that the cataclysmic events of the game can be undone (an incredibly foolish thing for her to do… but that’s an argument for another day). She continues to exist within the "Adult Timeline", while creating the new "Child Timeline". This is very straightforward and easy to understand.

But where does the "Decline Timeline" come from? Hyrule Historia suggests it as a mere scenario (OoT Link losing to Ganon/dorf) but still acts as if it’s still just as legitimate a timeline… bullshit.

And, as I’ve said before, that’s all resulting from Nintendo developing the games without a timeline in mind, but rather, as single experiences – though it was clear in the beginning, for example, that Majora’s Mask took after Ocarina of Time. Having said all that, and for nothing having been planned out too far, they handled the flow and organization of the games fairly well, all while providing rationalization for some of their more key events and turning points. I mean, bullshit or not, having a three-way split timeline was the only way they could make any sense out of it. :p

Well duh, of course they didn’t have a real timeline in mind when things were starting out.

Here’s what they should have done instead: have the Decline timeline branch off of Majora’s Mask. Link uses the Ocarina of Time anyway, which in effect creates a new timeline. What does this mean?

In this abandoned timeline:
– Termina dies
– The Triforce of Courage is absent from Hyrule, having been whisked away into another timeline
– Ganondorf returns in Twilight Princess (there is no TP Link to stop him, as the Triforce of Courage does not save him from being turned into a Shadow Beast) and acquires the Triforce, just like the AlttP manual states.

Yeah. And interestingly, the last point of effect you suggested was similar in how Zelda sending link back seven years resulted in there being no Link to ‘save Hyrule’ once Ganon returned again in that timeline, and therefore Hyrule became flooded – that’s where Wind Waker comes in; and why there’s an ocean.

Yeah, it’s a fun parallel to think about. If only Nintendo had adopted something like that instead of their half-assed garbage explanation.

BTW, what do y’all think about the voice acting? I hope you can toggle a mute option…

IDK…maybe I’m the wrong audience at this point?

The Switch has officially become a ‘wait till BF 2018’ deal.

I WAS so excited for it but between the nutty cost of the controllers (and other peripherals) to the nonexistent on-board memory (seriously…Mirco-SD? In the age of 50GB games?) to a paid internet service that (Given Nintendo’s history) will be lackluster AT BEST.

Plus, only like THREE NEW games worth buying in the first year?

Yeah…GG Nintendo.

WiiU was the first Nintendo system I didn’t care about and skipped…
-I STILL have a Virtual Boy in a box, somewhere. XD

The Switch will be the second, unless there’s a hell of a good deal, or support, in a year or two on the system.
😐

Lmao, this is sad. Okay I’m gonna be real mad if I NEED to buy the fucking accesories to play correctly, that’s horrible.

Reggie on how it’s a good thing that the Switch doesn’t have any games bundled:

"The first decision that we make is, where do we want to be in terms of the hardware price point that’s going to be approachable and hit the marketplace we want? And from a US price point, we wanted to be at $299," he said. "Certainly, lower is always better, but at a $349 or $399 price point, we just didn’t feel that was the right place to be. So we start there. And then it’s all about, what’s going to be included? Obviously the inclusion of the two Joy-Con, critically important; all the right cables, the dock, critically important. We also have to do this from a financial perspective as well. Once we got to that bundle, it really needed to be at $299 without a piece of software."
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-switch-doesnt-include-any-bundled-games/1100-6446940/

Really? Are you surreeeee you couldn’t have snuck ‘1-2 Switch’ into there, Reggie?
I get that they’ve got to make money on this thing, but hot damn… they’re really skimping out on us this time around. And I understand that you get what you par for, but there’s also got to be incentive.

That’s a big load of bullshit.. you STILL need to pay for a game after the console, which is 50 dollars, so it’s like if you were buying the console for 350 instead of 299. What’s the difference? It’s just more convenient to add it to the same package!

But don’t worry. There’ll be bundles in Holiday 2017, you bet.

Bring on the Nintendo Switch memes. My body is still ready.

I love how this thread had turned into the Zelda Timeline debacle for a few posts, and now memes. Can’t miss the internet without it.

My reaction to the Switch: Probably will buy next year. Maybe even later, since I haven’t really given the Wii U the time it actually needed to play games. I simply only ever used it for internet browsing (back when I didn’t have a proper tablet), which is rather unfortunate, due to the fact the thing was made primarily for gaming. Thus, I already know that I won’t be able to quite use the Switch like I ideally would, based off my experiences with the Wii U. Thus, I’ll just use the time waiting for my Switch to actually do some gaming that I haven’t in a while with the Wii U. Simple as that.

My reaction to the heavily priced accessories: Considering how these consoles are only ever for me (a spoiled brat I am), I don’t think any of these are necessary really, at least to me. The Wii U should be good enough for multiplayer, so I’m fine.

My reaction to most of the games: Eh. I doubt I’ll play most of them, but at least they should be good to those that are interested in them.

My reaction to Super Mario Odyssey: Awesome. Can’t wait to play it when I get the darn console.

My reaction to Breath of the Wild: Holy smokes! This will probably be the game that gets me back in the mood for more. I loved Skyward Sword, so this will be a treat.

My reaction to the timeline: Meh. I always play these games as various solo adventures, so it doesn’t really matter to me.

Skyward Sword needs a proper good HD remaster so hard. The Wii’s 480i hurts so much the game’s beautiful art style.

It’ll never happen.

It’ll never happen.

Why?

Because the game is built around the Wii controller! You would have to literally re-build the game’s code from the ground up in order for there to be an "HD remaster" so that it could be forced to be based on an entirely new control scheme.

Because the game is built around the Wii controller! You would have to literally re-build the game’s code from the ground up in order for there to be an "HD remaster" so that it could be forced to be based on an entirely new control scheme.

So was Twilight Princess yet they changed it to the Gamepad. I’m sure they’d find a way. And it’ll come.. sooner or later. Nintendo loves rehashing.

All they had to do for TP was remap the GCN buttons to a Gamepad and change the menu mechanics. Same for Wind Waker. The entirety of SS is built around motion controls. Minigames, puzzles, dungeons, swimming, bombs, fucking everything.

That’s such a damn shame. Because Skyward Sword would benefit so very well from HD display.

They could make it work on the Switch since the Joy-Cons are clearly motion-based too, but considering the game’s young age I would be shocked if they tried to pull that on us. By the time the Switch’s life is over, I think Nintendo will try to dial down their gimmicky controllers and just return to the standard.

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I don’t even know if the Switch controller has enough buttons for SS… :erm:

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That’s such a damn shame. Because Skyward Sword would benefit so very well from HD display.

Yeah, something definitely got lost in translation when the game went from the top-of-the-line testing hardware at Nintendo HQ to the Wii itself. Check out a Dolphin Emulator video and it becomes so much clearer what Aonuma et al. were going for with the style, with the background blending like a sort of watercolor painting. When you put that on a 480p display it just looks like a blurry mess. 🙁

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"The paid online service will be available in the U.S., Canada, and Mexico only at launch"

���HUH???

Does this mean only these three countries get premium online at launch? Like, the Japanese can’t play Spla2n immediately?
Or does it mean that only these three have the OPTION to start paying sooner, and other countries have to wait for their 1-month free trial to be over?

You’re looking at the US page, that’s why they’re saying that, because the page is meant to be looked at just by the people at the US.

Timeline in Zelda is a stupid thing. Let the fans debate, dream and enjoy wondering about that. The minute Nintendo had to put their version, we all knew they were going to fuck it up, because you can’t make everyone happy. And now it shows.

Zelda is a great game, but we already knew that. And yay, debut game. That you’ll also get on the (deceased) WiiU, so what’s the deal anyway? If you get a touch inventory in the WiiU version that would be swell.

The price, the lack of anything significant, the battery life, the tiny controls… It’s everything I expected and less so. This is a Super DS, which is good for the ones who love their 3DS (which NOW it’s doomed). As a console, it’s underwhelming and really, really hope they pull a Wii and not another WiiU.

The games… Nintendo games I no longer am interested in (niche), JRPGs (niche), ports and some things that *might* be interesting.

Hope they got an ace up in their sleeves.

Nintendo has said this is NOT a handheld console and won’t end Nintendo 3DS.

But it’s clear they’re trying to homogenize handheld and normal TV consoles, and I HATE that. I was against OoT 3D, I was against DKC 3D, and I was against Gameboy games on the Wii U because they all try to force into your head the idea that handheld and TV games can and should be interchangeable. And they shouldn’t.

Nintendo has said this is NOT a handheld console and won’t end Nintendo 3DS.

If it walks like a duck…

Honestly, I’ve made up my mind. I’ve been going up and down about the Switch. In my opinion, the worst thing about the Switch is how they have abused the prices. But eh.. I’ll have to deal with it. But the games, which is what matters and Nintendo bests at, looks promising, and much more to come around the rest of the year, and beyond. In Christmas, we should have a strong lineup of games to decide, and to gift the console.

See Breath of the Wild in action, in the handheld mode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC8MVY5zzAI

Why do all the trailers and gameplay videos for BotW make it look like the screen is covered in fart dust? Please just let it be bad YouTube compression…

No, it’s actually covered in fart dust

https://media.giphy.com/media/11uYyAmGgTWwGQ/giphy.gif

This being HD, though; the game’s visuals must be able to benefit from it. The potential is all there. It’s like a refined piece of music meant for an orchestral performance but rather done by the most shitty-sounding synth and therefore so crushing of it’s potential to be as best as it can be and present itself in full glory.

So, I do agree, I hope that’s just compression.

Part of me hopes it’s a tactic to make the game more stunning when you actually play it, but the other part of me says that’s not how you market a game.

I skipped out on the WiiU but I think I will be in for the Switch. I’m glad that Mario Kart is being ported over since that was one of the few WiiU games I wanted. I’ve also been itching to try out Splatoon. Hope they bring back say F-Zero but I don’t see it happening.

There’s a Switch in the wild and someone took a video about it! No joke. Full default UI here.

https://vid.me/oQkO

No menu music of any kind?

Doesn’t seem like it, maybe it’s in the update.

https://i.redd.it/l1wy5fs3w6gy.gif

What a dummy!

Pre-ordered mine with Super Bomberman R, because Hudson lives forever!! =)

ill buy mine for christmas
at the very earliest, summer.

Like Wii U I may gonna pass. There are 3 titles I really want to play for Wii U, so, no point buying one just for them (one is Breath of the Wild, also on Switch). Switch’s library didn’t spark my interest badly but if Wii U’s games get available digitally for it, perhaps I can skip the latter for good!

I’m probably going to pass too. I don’t play many video games anymore and to me the only interesting thing is Breath of the Wild — which of course is also on Wii U. And I’m not a fan of the Switch as a concept, so that’s not helping any! :p

I will eventually get a Switch, just will take my time.

On Latin America the price skyrocketed. On Mexico is about $10,000 pesos (That’s roughly 500 dollars on our current exchange rate, more or less). I’ve heard it’s worse in other countries.

On Latin America the price skyrocketed.

In Latin America prices always skyrocket thanks to taxes. Now PS4 in Brazil is something around 400 USD (still pricey… for me)

Brazilian tutorial to buy a new video game:
1st step – let’s sell a kidney. LOL!

That’s sad. ‘-‘
Yes, I’m a Brazilian. T-T

Pretty much me if I could have a Switch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6kL-lq7-ts

Brazilian tutorial to buy a new video game:
1st step – let’s sell a kidney. LOL!

That’s sad. ‘-‘
Yes, I’m a Brazilian. T-T

Being a Nintendo fan in Latin America is certainly not easy. I don’t even think they have a real presence there… everything is done third-party.

Being a Nintendo fan in Latin America is certainly not easy. I don’t even think they have a real presence there… everything is done third-party.

I’m Brazilian too. Yes, Nintendo things here tend to be more expensive. Wii U games cost around 50, 60, so imagine how much hard-to-find titles for GC, Wii are. PS titles are much easier to get with good prices at the right time!

Plus, Nintendo games barely go down in prices ever.

Only in eShop yes…

Why I am so excited about new Bomberman… while everone is hustling Zelda, but I couldn’t care less about it 😀

everone is hustling Zelda

Well, Zelda-hustling as is good as Mario, DK or Metroid-hustling: good… for nothing! XD when it comes to Big N

Seriously, although I have some "desire" that Super Mario 3D World is as good as Galaxy or 64 were at their time, when I think I’ve been playing the same Mario game for like 10 years (because Sunshine was kinda a letdown IMO), I start giving up hope. Metroid lost steam after The Other M.
DK games? DK Returns? I passed without regrets. And Zelda goes in the same conveyor belt that Mario does. Year after year they come up with new gimmicks here and there BUT STILL it’s the same game since Wind Waker, Toon Link or not.
About Yoshi and Kirby I can’t say for sure. Not my favorites.

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Plus, Nintendo games barely go down in prices ever.

Unless they go Nintendo Selects themselves. My SMG is one of these.

I agree wholly. Yoshi sucks anyway… big time. Kirby is cool, but they have worsened it too by all kinds of amiibo gimmicks and whatnot. Well, the new Zelda will have open world I guess but in the end it’s the same old after all. I lost interest in Skyward Sword, and after that it has been a downhill to down with that series. So why Bomberman? I have a very soft spot for Hudson (bought by Konami), they were somewhat pioneers in entertainment in 90s and they had this certain cool "aura" no many companies have. I was saddened by the fact Hudson isn’t any more but I like how Konami keeps "hudson-tamashii" alive. =)

I have a very soft spot for Hudson, they were somewhat pioneers in entertainment in 90s and they had this certain cool "aura" no many companies have.

I have sweet memories of Bomberman, played many of the games and even dowloaded Bomberman Blast for Wii to relive (like I could XD) "the blasts from the past".
Fun times

My hope is that BotW rejuvenates the Zelda series a bit; TP and especially SS were way too interested in getting the player to the next checkpoint than giving them reasons to explore the overworlds. You could argue that SS didn’t even really have one.

My hope is that BotW rejuvenates the Zelda series a bit; TP and especially SS were way too interested in getting the player to the next checkpoint than giving them reasons to explore the overworlds. You could argue that SS didn’t even really have one.

Oh boy. You have no idea the freedom you have with Breath of the Wild. And you can also explore. A WHOLE DEAL of explore.

I get my copy this Friday.

I have to wait ’till like May to play.
I have to stay away from Nintendo news site and videogame sites in general because otherwise I just know some asshole is going to spoil it all for me.
This is the first Zelda game ever for me which I didn’t know the backstory/timeline placement of beforehand. I wanna figure that shit out for myself!

WOW!!! IT’S COMING IN TWO DAYSS!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VOEZ

?oh=031024158ff8ab52e5e1f2bc5fd9ec87&oe=5925113E

Man, I had to THINK and think before I recognized that picture… it is from Majora, ain’t it.

And a well known meme reference, used more than once in the internet when something expected is about to come.

Oh boy. You have no idea the freedom you have with Breath of the Wild. And you can also explore. A WHOLE DEAL of explore.

If Zelda gets more open-ended than the previous titles, then that means a non-linear structure may contrast with the "follow the sequence the game’s upgrades order impose on you to advance". That would be a nice change! No matter how far we traveled by boat or on horse in the past we always had to stick to a established path with a few distractions along the way but real progression only in the mandatory course…

Nice reference on Majora’s

The whole game is based in exploration and doing what you want, man. It’s so different from the other Zelda games, yet it retains the Zelda feel to it. And it’ll be a landmark as big as Ocarina was in 1998, trust my words, this is not just hype talking.

It’ll be a landmark as big as Ocarina was in 1998, trust my words, this is not just hype talking.

I tend to think that, when it comes to Zelda, all the hype ends up justified.

I wonder if some reviewer will give it an 8.8/10 just for kicks

I wonder if some reviewer will give it an 8.8/10 just for kicks

Has ever been a Zelda that scored low? Right now I don’t remember any…

Twilight Princess was, it was a big deal. :laugh:

WHO WOULD HAVE guessed…. Zelda got PERFECT score 40/40 in Famitsuu…. …of course.

It was on their ‘most anticipated’ list every week for years.

WHO WOULD HAVE guessed…. Zelda got PERFECT score 40/40 in Famitsuu…. …of course.

Have you stopped to think, that maybe.. MAYYYYBE, I dunno.. the game is actually good?

Have you stopped to think, that maybe.. MAYYYYBE, I dunno.. the game is actually good?

It HAS to be. They took their damn time just to have it boost Switch sales.

It HAS to be. They took their damn time just to have it boost Switch sales.

I will boost the Wii U sales. And probably have a collector’s since surely the Wii U vesion is gonna be understocked like the GCN version of TP xD

If BotW seriously did boost Wii U sales, I wonder if that would be gratifying or embarrassing to Nintendo.

If BotW seriously did boost Wii U sales, I wonder if that would be gratifying or embarrassing to Nintendo.

Zelda is to Nintendo what Resident Evil is or was to Sony.

If BotW seriously did boost Wii U sales, I wonder if that would be gratifying or embarrassing to Nintendo.

It won’t boost the Wii U sales, most people, unless they can’t afford it, will go for the Switch version.

Bought the damn game (Zelda), happy now? HAPPY NOW? 😀 This is ridiculous, VOEZ, Zelda, Bomberman and Blaster Master Zero… so many cool games… It’s good to be alive – as a gamer. At least.

It’s good to be alive – as a gamer. At least.

Yeah, this part is true indeed. "Pickyspot" is drooling over it. Some "Pickyspot" users are too busy doing "the hater’s job".

OK, the Zelda game, it is pretty swell in fact! Bomberman is crap though, I can’t believe they sell it at full price! VOEZ is impossible to play and Blaster Master Zero is just annoying – with good music. So… that dang Zelda is the best game at the moment for Switch – wowwow!

The new Zelda is definitely on par with OoT.

I’m really loving the new Zelda. I like how it marks on my map where I died and changes the location every time I die. I’m not very good at it but I haven’t enjoyed a game this much since Skyrim.

I saw the armor selection yesterday and it felt a little "everything but Zelda" given the many options to dress Link up.

I have Switch. I HAD Zelda and Bomberman, also downloaded Blaster Master Zero and VOEZ. At the moment, I have nothing but the console :D. Sold the games, deleted the DL-games… VOEZ is awful, I don’t like touch controls only-games. And BMZ was fun at first but then… Nah. Zelda is overrated, and Bomberman… no. Switch is not worth of buying yet, I don’t care about Mario Kart 8 DX or Splatoon 2 or any game really they have announced. I feel kinda disappointed. I will keep my Switch, maybe it will have a game or two in a few years 😀

I’m intrigued by the new game ARMS coming out. When it was first revealed I had no interest but the new Nintendo direct made me curious. I’m really hyped for E3 and to see what the new Mario brings though!

"I don’t care about Mario Kart 8 DX or _Splatoon_ 2 or any game really they have announced".

I really don’t know what kind of mushrooms I had been having while writing that, but Splatoon 2 is awesome! It has all the cool things from Splatoon, and then it has been polished into a great sequel.. Bought the game today, and even if I haven’t played it for long yet, I know this game will last!