Star Wars: The Force Awakens – End Credits

Wave
https://mega.nz/#!vNoRibqb!C3xhaMPNMCMCBAHyyfSU42dV6UO0G1sEdmNqWiL hpRQ

Sample
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al0YmH4yOr8

Original Soundtrack
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Thanks. What’s new here?

Lilu, sounds interesting, thank you for sharing

No details or specifications?
Bluray rip? What ripped it?
Was it actual bluray or some random "1080p" encode you found?
The encodes out there now only have DTS-core audio (lossy 5.1 DTS).

Just ripping the bluray right now.

eac3to v3.31
command line: eac3to "Star Wars\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00800.mpls" 3: TFA.w64
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M2TS, 1 video track, 4 audio tracks, 5 subtitle tracks, 2:18:07, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 50 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: DTS Master Audio, English, 7.1 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 1509kbps, 48kHz)
4: AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 320kbps, 48kHz
5: AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48kHz
6: AC3, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48kHz
7: Subtitle (PGS), English
8: Subtitle (PGS), French
9: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
10: Subtitle (PGS), French
11: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3…
[a03] Decoding with libDcaDec DTS Decoder…
[a03] Writing W64…
[a03] Creating file "TFA.w64"…
[a03] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 24 bits.
Video track 2 contains 198682 frames.
eac3to processing took 5 minutes, 52 seconds.
Done.

The good thing is that it’s a standard 7.1 channel setup (not "strange setup" or matrixed 6.1).

Making 7.1/24-bit FLAC now.

WAV looks to be 16-bit stereo downmix using Adobe.

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TBH, it’s a useless 7.1 mix.
It barely does anything for 5.1.

Stereo is the best option here.

(http://imgur.com/MJcxxeX)

As you can see, it’s barely stereo.
Looks like mono just upscaled to 7.1.

Giacchino for the next two, in Dolby Atmos please.

I will not be doing a multichannel edit of this as Williams really dropped the ball on this one.
Or JJ.
Or both.
7.1 only good for the actual movie.

I’ll wait for spark’s rip. But thanks anyways.

I’ll wait for spark’s rip. But thanks anyways.

:laugh: Don’t bother. Williams sucks. It’s mono.

Go for Lilu’s up. It can’t get any better than this. Unless Japan releases a bluray with Atmos mix.

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! Didn’t meant for it to sound insulting or anything Lilu. :laugh:

Just vastly disappointed in the long-awaited bluray.

@ tehƧP@ƦKly†ANK™ -Ⅲ� .. u are the pro and I need some help. would like to learn how to manage such rips like a pro.

I received the remux now and I would like to give it a chance again ..

whats the best way to grab only the audio on it (DTS-HD 7.1 5194 Kbps) ?

Most recorded music is made up of mono channels mixed down into stereo (or multi-channel where films are concerned). The orchestra is recorded live, so even individual mics on individual instruments will have similar wave forms to others in the same recording session. What you see above are the stems of summed multi-channel recordings, not a single mono track split arbitrarily.

Thank you.

@ tehƧP@ƦKly†ANK™ -Ⅲ� .. u are the pro and I need some help. would like to learn how to manage such rips like a pro.

I received the remux now and I would like to give it a chance again ..

whats the best way to grab only the audio on it (DTS-HD 7.1 5194 Kbps) ?

I’ll PM a GUI for eac3to.

Most recorded music is made up of mono channels mixed down into stereo (or multi-channel where films are concerned). The orchestra is recorded live, so even individual mics on individual instruments will have similar wave forms to others in the same recording session. What you see above are the stems of summed multi-channel recordings, not a single mono track split arbitrarily.

What I mean is the music mixed for the end credits is poor. All tracks are identical.
There’s no mixing of any tracks in the surround sound. it’s just copied and volume changed.

I’ve edited a lot of end credits. I’ve an old, dedicated thread for it.

Newer movies, especially in 7.1, should have some sort of dynamic surround sound.

I know how music is recorded.

I’m just saying the mix for this particular release is useless.

John Wick end credits was acutally mixed to use 3 pairs of surround sound speakers, plus the center channel.
Just for the score. The commercial song by Marilyn Manson was only a stereo mix since that’s how it was recorded.
But Tyler Bate’s score was actually mixed to use all 7.1 speakers for anyone who had them, or a Dolby Atmos receiver.

This end credit mix is barely stereo.

Guardians of the Galaxy was a 7.1 bluray, but Tyler Bate’s score for the end credits was 5.1 at best. The back channels were just copied from the side channels.

Very different ballpack here.

I’ve checked several different places and played only in pairs of channels to listen for anything different.
Samples checked in front L+R sound identical to samples checked in the side L+R and back L+R.
Only difference was volume.

That’s what I was saying that this is crap and it can basically be downmixed to mono.

Thanks 🙂

I’ll PM a GUI for eac3to.

What I mean is the music mixed for the end credits is poor. All tracks are identical.
There’s no mixing of any tracks in the surround sound. it’s just copied and volume changed.

I’ve edited a lot of end credits. I’ve an old, dedicated thread for it.

Newer movies, especially in 7.1, should have some sort of dynamic surround sound.

I know how music is recorded.

I’m just saying the mix for this particular release is useless.

John Wick end credits was acutally mixed to use 3 pairs of surround sound speakers, plus the center channel.
Just for the score. The commercial song by Marilyn Manson was only a stereo mix since that’s how it was recorded.
But Tyler Bate’s score was actually mixed to use all 7.1 speakers for anyone who had them, or a Dolby Atmos receiver.

This end credit mix is barely stereo.

Guardians of the Galaxy was a 7.1 bluray, but Tyler Bate’s score for the end credits was 5.1 at best. The back channels were just copied from the side channels.

Very different ballpack here.

I’ve checked several different places and played only in pairs of channels to listen for anything different.
Samples checked in front L+R sound identical to samples checked in the side L+R and back L+R.
Only difference was volume.

That’s what I was saying that this is crap and it can basically be downmixed to mono.

Argh. I’m not implying you don’t know how music is recorded, Spark. I have recorded, mixed, and mastered music, and sending copies of the L+R channels (usually the reverb send) is totally normal. The score is mixed in stereo from the start, and that’s generally what is delivered to the re-recording mixer fro final mixdown. 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 mixes of music recordings aren’t the norm. What’s displayed above isn’t lazy, or useless. It’s normal. All I’m saying.

Nice

thanks

Thank you share!

Wonderful! Thanks Lilu!

Thanks for upping this Lilu! Just curious, but the sound sounds really muddled and compressed. Did something happen perhaps while ripping the BluRay audio or maybe the software used downgraded the quality? Don’t mean to offend at all. Just curious.

Thanks for upping this Lilu! Just curious, but the sound sounds really muddled and compressed. Did something happen perhaps while ripping the BluRay audio or maybe the software used downgraded the quality? Don’t mean to offend at all. Just curious.

u absolutely right. sadly I dont know how to rip with the "eac3to". same with the other stuff I downloaded from SourceForge. I tried and tried but holy …

I will make a simple wave rip with adobe audition again. just needs a day or 2.

Better would be when Spartank would make a rip .. currently I have to work on other stuff like adobe premiere & after effects. so I dont have the time for eac3to and that secrets 🙂

Thanks Lilu. Again, thank you for taking the time to even do this and share it with us on here.

Just a question. Are there like four versions of the music for the end credits? The CD, the theatrical release, the Blu-Ray disc, the digital download? The Blu-Ray one is very, very different from the CD one. I prefer the CD one.

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Also, thanks, Lilu! May The Force Be with You always.

Just a question. Are there like four versions of the music for the end credits? The CD, the theatrical release, the Blu-Ray disc, the digital download? The Blu-Ray one is very, very different from the CD one. I prefer the CD one.

———- Post added at 04:09 PM ———- Previous post was at 03:55 PM ———-

Also, thanks, Lilu! May The Force Be with You always.

I am curious .. are u able to upload the different versions and give us a link .. that would be great

Better would be when Spartank would make a rip .. currently I have to work on other stuff like adobe premiere & after effects. so I dont have the time for eac3to and that secrets 🙂

I just made some free space on computers and stuff so I can work on making a guide.
With pictures.

Regarding: OST, bluray, digital download, etc.

There’s really:
OST
FYC CD
Movie (bluray/dvd/digital/theater)

The FYC is more like the movie version than the OST.
A lot of people prefer the FYC version.

I’ll up the rip, starting from where Rey gets off the Falcon for Jedi Stairs and send it to you via PM.

here is a new version :

Source: 5.1 bluray.
I used "eac3to" to generate an "AC3" audio file .. then I used "premiere CC 2015" to cut it .. u will find some sfx (wind) in the biginning but in my opinion its ok .. otherwise we would loose this part

https://mega.nz/#!XBkUwKJA!j2BPxxr4P2740S4zBF-jD_hlPUsWzFppoIKR5vHSr18

Spartank already sent me a new file (FLAC, 24bit, 7.1, 48kHz) .. I dont want to be in rush with this one .. it will take some time (will try and find better audio programs (studio one etc) to find the best way and solution

@Spartank
Thanks a lot for ur help .. very very appreciate

Anything work now that it’s extracted with eac3to.
Audacity, Sony Sound Forge, Adobe Audition.

Agreed on the sfx not being a big issue. That’s currently what I have for personal collection.
I think it adds a lot more to the music as it’s a really huge part of the movie.

Happy editing. 🙂

Yeah, although oddly enough I remember timing it in the theater once and it came to 6:40ish…the TRT of the OST and not the FYC version. But maybe I was off by a minute beacause the other one is almost exactly a minute longer. lol Did anybody do a better job at timekeeping the theatrical credits than me? Or maybe the OSt is the film version?

Yeah, although oddly enough I remember timing it in the theater once and it came to 6:40ish…the TRT of the OST and not the FYC version. But maybe I was off by a minute beacause the other one is almost exactly a minute longer. lol Did anybody do a better job at timekeeping the theatrical credits than me? Or maybe the OSt is the film version?

The Film Version has a "Scherzo" segment between Rey’s theme and Kylo’s one. I’m not sure if in the Film Version the entire cue "March of the Resistance", but I assume it does.