
Lucasfilm and visionary director J.J. Abrams join forces to take you back again to a galaxy far, far away as Star Wars returns to the big screen with Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Make sure to experience the soundtrack by legendary, five-time Academy Award??? winning composer, John Williams. Star Wars: The Force Awakens movie and soundtrack release 12/18/15.
Tracklist (via iTunes):
01 – Main Title and the Attack on the Jakku Village
02 – The Scavenger
03 -I Can Fly Anything
04 – Rey Meets BB-8
05 – Follow Me
06 – Rey’s Theme
07 – The Falcon
08 – That Girl with the Staff
09 – The Rathtars!
10 – Finn’s Confession
11 – Maz’s Counsel
12 – The Starkiller
13 – Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle
14 – The Abduction
15 – Han and Leia
16 – March of the Resistance
17 – Snoke
18 – On the Inside
19 – Torn Apart
20 – The Ways of the Force
21 – Scherzo for X-Wings
22 – Farewell and the Trip
23 – The Jedi Steps and Finale
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I must resist the Darkside… I must resist…..
I feel you bro
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I feel you bro
Movie was shit… not gonna spoil it for you but it???s just a retelling of A New Hope…. change Obi-Wan to Han Solo and bingo there???s your movie
I don’t care, I’m probably gonna like it anyway, it’s quite a cinematic experience.. I enjoyed Jurassic World in the cinema the first time for the same reason XD
While it does sound entirely too similar to ANH to please me (I was hoping there was going to be some kind of big plot twist with Starkiller Base to differentiate it from Death Star III but doesn’t sound like it unless the reviewers are doing a good job of being coy), just the fact that Han Solo is filling Obi-Wan’s role changes the story going forward because, well, he’s not a Jedi and is really a completely different character from Obi-Wan. That also leaves Luke in the Yoda rule and they’re nothing alike either. So I think they will go in a quite different direction with VIII, especially if there is a big backlash from fans about it being a rehash; especially considering who’s directing it (and writing the story for IX as well), the director of what is basically the climax of Breaking Bad and widely considered to be the best episode.
Thanks.
You rule!
I’m seeing this movie in 12 hours and can’t wait (I’m in Australia and we get the film tomorrow!)
So is Williams working with "action scenes" – enjoy xd
Listening track 14 and still missing a big Williams theme. Lots of action, action, action, strings, strings, metal, strings but where’s THE THEME????
You mean no Binary Sunset (The Force Theme) in the retail OST ???
lol
lol indeed. Gotta love some people xD
My thoughts exactly but wanted to share anyway 🙂 Hasn’t even been released officially and someone claims to have the sessions. Winter Soldier took nearly 2 years and we only have the demos yet (not to sound ungrateful of course because they’re awesome).
If you’ve ever visited JWFan once, you’d know BloodBoal is probably the most sarcastic fellow there.
You’re dam right, just looking through his messages shows that lol
You mean no Binary Sunset (The Force Theme) in the retail OST ???[/QUOTE]
Of course there are bits of previous movies themes, but besides Rey’s Theme that, in my opinion, is a minor one, the soundtrack is lacking a BIG theme, the one to remember, the one that give you goosebumps. But I’m pretty sure while watching the movie the soundtrack will flourish as its best.
Are you serious. I mean. As long as the box office recovers what the was expended for the movie, it’s not considered a box office flop..
You’re right, re-listening it starts to convince me. Maybe I was expecting more for the first listen. Some kind of Force Theme, Imperial March, Duel of Fates or even the Across the Stars theme. But the genius of Williams in in there, no doubt of that.
You’re dam right, just looking through his messages shows that lol
I only go there in search of slates or cues 🙂
Of course there are bits of previous movies themes, but besides Rey’s Theme that, in my opinion, is a minor one, the soundtrack is lacking a BIG theme, the one to remember, the one that give you goosebumps. But I’m pretty sure while watching the movie the soundtrack will flourish as its best.
TRACK 11 – MAZ’S COUNCIL at 2:17 clearly kicks in a slow rendition of The Force Theme. And it’s there again at the end of TRACK 15 – HAN AND LEIA and TRACK 20 – THE WAYS OF THE FORCE:)
Okay, I think we’ve established that it’s DEFINITELY there and you’re wrong :p
Are you serious. I mean. As long as the box office recovers what the was expended for the movie, it’s not considered a box office flop..
On the other hand, it’s Star Wars, after all…
Wait for it.. be patient.. I’m also waiting for a flac (and for the movie) but I am not asking for it.. it’ll eventually be available this weekend after the CD releases.
Stop it, HDLossless.
Yes. I’m glad Disney/LucasFilm/whoever decided to honor the legacy and continue with Williams instead of giving it to people like Brian Tyler, Lorne Balfe, Hans Zimmer or any other RCP chrone. They are talented, but they’re not Williams. Closest one is Giacchino, and even, he’s not called John Williams. Sometimes the name on the cover makes all the difference.
I’ve seen the movie, and no, it is not bad at all. It is an "new" interpretation for a younger generation. It is fun, exciting, sometimes sad, surprising. An old school blockbuster.
And really better than the last three one.
looks like a classic score !!
At least in the canon sequels.
Rocklegend is a pussy. Always complaining about everything. He probably thinks he is better than everyone else. I can t take his word at all.
Hear, hear. Plus, if you stop and think about it, he just spoiled a HUGE set piece. Dumb asshole. At least benuit says it like it is without giving everything away…
I honestly hope he can score the sequels of this new trilogy. Please. Giacchino is not bad. But STAR WARS is just not STAR WARS without him.
At least in the canon sequels.
True, Giacchino has proven his worth a lot over the years but Williams is Williams. He’s in a league of his own, really. His age -and therefore years and years of experience- probably gave him that edge but he’s still beyond compare.
Seriously, let’s not make 10 threads of this score, please.
Good For Him.
Seriously, let’s not make 10 threads of this score, please.
Like you said, DAK will be right. There will be 20 or 30 threads on this score.
Good For Him.
Well yeah, because his links usually live longer than others 🙂 Too bad they’re always upconverts…
I predict this movie will get close to 3 billion dollars worldwide….. there???s nothing stopping this jugernaut
May the force be with you.
It may as well beat Avatar as the #1
And really better than the last three one.
Yeah it???s much better than the prequels but it???s just a remake of A New Hope imo…. pretty disappointing to me
Oh Well.
so, tomorrow, all the same, upload original release in 320kbps – because, so far are only – upconvert & VBR
320kbps most of the times are upconvert.
THANKS FOR BEING FIRST!
True, Giacchino has proven his worth a lot over the years but Williams is Williams. He’s in a league of his own, really. His age -and therefore years and years of experience- probably gave him that edge but he’s still beyond compare.
I ain???t spoiled shit…. no need for name calling…..no-one knows what I???m talking about as Han is the one like Obi-Wan gives the expedition
Lucas has zero involvement with this movie and you’d be supporting Williams, not Abrams.
give in to the darkside, let it flow through you.
AWESOME DAY !!!
Thanks lilu
I???ll start complaining about you if you don???t STFU
AWESOME DAY !!!
Thanks lilu
How the hell do you people see the movie?
Resisting this will be harder than resisting a mound of freshly cut cocaine.
I hope you’re right because if Han LITERALLY replaces Obi-Wan in this movie then that means a certain something and that in turn means you spoiled it. Apologies with the name calling, I got carried away.
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How the hell do you people see the movie?
I live in Belgium and they’ve got early showings at 10AM and stuff. It’s 3:30PM here now and I’m stuck at work 🙁
thanks for the soundtrack
The whole score is great, I’ve listened to it twice the whole way through! Cannot wait for my physical copies to arrive in the mail. I will definitely be ordering the Vinyl, maybe I will ask for it for Christmas. I cannot wait to see the movie tomorrow night!
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Im french 😉 Movie is out today
Second – Rey’s Theme really is great, it soars and flows like I hope it would. You know sometimes when you listen to music you have a feel for the direction you want it to go in and its disappointing when it doesn’t? Thats what I mean. Beautiful.
The Falcon I found disappointing in comparison, the music nods seemed odd. Will see how it is in context.
I’ve listen to the score and couldn’t find any of the music used in its trailers.
The whole score is great, I’ve listened to it twice the whole way through! Cannot wait for my physical copies to arrive in the mail. I will definitely be ordering the Vinyl, maybe I will ask for it for Christmas. I cannot wait to see the movie tomorrow night!
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Thanks a lot ! I am happy u like it !
Rey’s Theme is great and yes, the hole score is great !
but, and big sorry for it, I hoped for a killer. but there is no dark force masterpiece for my taste in it. no "belly of the steel beast" .. no prelude to war, no new power is rising track :_(
Was any of the music in this soundtrack used in any of the new Star Wars trailers?
I’ve listen to the score and couldn’t find any of the music used in its trailers.
same here .. missing it
but, and big sorry for it, I hoped for a killer. but there is no dark force masterpiece for my taste in it. no "belly of the steel beast" .. no prelude to war, no new power is rising track :_(
Indeed, it really seemed to lack anything really representative (or memorable) for the villains of this movie.
I’ve listen to the score and couldn’t find any of the music used in its trailers.
None of the trailer music was done by Williams, that’s why it’s not on the ost.
The teaser and trailer 1 were
Not necessarily, I think they were new arrangements of previous work he’d done. Not new stuff composed by Williams for the trailer. Could be wrong tho’.
I’ve listen to the score and couldn’t find any of the music used in its trailers.
Yup. This: https://listenonrepeat.com/?v=W6HN9soeGa8
Not true, most of it is in track 21, "Scherzo for X-Wings".
No. Exept "Star Wars- The Force Awakens 60 Second TV Spot" check youtube, is in "The Jedi Steps"
The teaser and trailer 1 were
Not necessarily, I think they were new arrangements of previous work he’d done. Not new stuff composed by Williams for the trailer. Could be wrong tho’.
The new take on The Force Theme was done by Frederik Lloyd, if that’s what you mean, DAK. It’s the one SkeletonMan said he has stems for.
While I am sure the music is technically brilliantly and very good composed and mixed it doesn’t really resonate with me on an emotional level.
there is also the official novelization that comes out in print and audiobook form lol
I could swear I read somwhere that Williams specifically scored the teaser and first trailer. But I could be wrong also.
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Kevin Kliner has a better grasp of what’s needed.
I remember back in 2005 when I was 12 I done same with Revenge of the With after buying the album and a few tracks on there that I didn’t care much for. Then it took a while to sink in after listening to it for the upptenth time. In recommend watching the movie first to appreciate the score better and keep watching it and listening to the score.
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I remember back in 2005 when I was 12 I done same with Revenge of the With after buying the album and a few tracks on there that I didn’t care much for. Then it took a while to sink in after listening to it for the upptenth time. In recommend watching the movie first to appreciate the score better and keep watching it and listening to the score.
Correct, sometimes it takes watching the film first, it’s part of the experience.
DAMN right!!
The Jedi Steps music was used in one of the TV spots – can’t remember which as there have been about 16!
Loving the score and I wonder if the Snoke track is a clue as to his real identity as it sounds an awful lot like music we have heard before in the saga.
Thanks for the link!
sorry for my englisch and best regards
waldi
But the modern trailer music on the star wars themes send the shivers down my spine. But the score does nothing with me at all. Though I am not a john williams fan he had made some great cues like duel of fates and battle of heroes and more. It has nothing to do with orchestral music since I like music like ‘Pan’, ‘Lair’, ‘Outcast’, ‘Juipter ascending’, X-men: Last Stand’ The mixing and processing of the music sounds so…ancient.
Very much that, the trailer with the piano really did set the hairs on the back of my hand on end and caused me to shiver. As lovely as Rey’s Theme is, it doesn’t even get close to that feeling.
He did and you are right
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Kevin Kliner has a better grasp of what’s needed.
My thoughts exactly. And I expected it to be the best score of 2015… 🙁
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Kevin Kliner has a better grasp of what’s needed.
When you see the film you???ll see how perfect the music is…. if ya wanna blame anyone blame Abrams … 😉
I fear for the future of the series themes if they go with Desplat though. His new stuff hasn’t been very interesting to me. Giaccino should be their choice at least for the next two films if John isn’t returning.
Just wondering if anyone’s made a custom cover yet? I’m not a big fan of the official cover.
I have just seen te movie with my family and WOW what a great ride was this. Awsome!! This is a must see movie with lot of twists and drama.
With the old cast its like coming home. What a great feeling is that
And offcourse the score is as always unbelievable good! Rey’s Theme is my favorite
I am willing to bet you have not actually seen it, and are just trolling. The movie was a lot of fun, and its a big disservice to tell people its merely a retelling of the first movie. there is so much more to it than that. and if you didnt take any of that away from your viewing sorry to hear that. Ive seen it twice now and its a fun time at the movies.
I guess, it’s all about leaping forward and finding a way to match things together, blend the old stuff with the new stuff. Many gaps still have to be filled, but that’s ok, hence the sequels.
Is the movie perfect? No, but it’s way much better than the awfull prequels. J.J. really set the right tone, funny at times, emotional, plot twists, leaving you wondering what’s going to happen next. I’m met with expectations, although I did think the story could be a bit more original.
On the other hand… the biggest letdown was the music. I was so underwhelmed with the score. I wondered where all the beautiful themes had gone. Nothing stood out, for except Rey’s theme maybe. I missed the marches, the darker themes, the emotional tones from the original trilogy, and even the prequels. The trailer music left a bigger impression on me, than everything I heard in the movie. I honestly think, and I really love Williams, that he should pass for the new SW sequels. Ofcourse, the continuity should be there, but why not from a completely different approach… Giacchino perhaps?
Hopefully I didn’t spoil anything.
And to anybody posting spoilers, get a life. SOME people actually want to watch the movie without knowing what happens. Wait until everybody has seen it, then talk about it.
Until then, fuck the hell off.
Even at the worst parts of the prequels we always could count on the music to lift things up but here…it seems like atmospheric music without any semblance of an identity.
Something tells me that Williams is not what he used to be and well…this movie paid the price. He’ll always will be one of the greatest composers ever but this OST is just mediocre.
This may be the first Star Wars movie to go down in history without a uniquely distinctive theme to remember it for…
Even at the worst parts of the prequels we always could count on the music to lift things up but here…it seems like atmospheric music without any semblance of an identity.
Something tells me that Williams is not what he used to be and well…this movie paid the price. He’ll always will be one of the greatest composers ever but this OST is just mediocre.
This may be the first Star Wars movie to go down in history without a uniquely distinctive theme to remember it for…
*cough* blame Disney *cough*
How about the films? Tell real Star Wars fans, REAL STAR WARS FANS, that you love the prequel music. They’ll laugh at you and think you’re a Jar Jar humper. Pretty sure the music didn’t do the prequels many favors, for the exception of Revenge. And even then, real fans aren’t gushing over John William’s string work while Obi and Ani are duking it out in the best saber duel of the series.
In short. Soundtrack isn’t the best of all time. If you were expecting that, you’re an idiot.
If you think this soundtrack means Williams isn’t the man he was, your opinion is closed-minded as all hell.
And if you think the movie is going to be tarnished somehow because of the music…. well… stick to the damn music and ignore the movie altogether. The two are not the same thing.
Can’t wait to see the movie tomorrow night.
How about the films? Tell real Star Wars fans, REAL STAR WARS FANS, that you love the prequel music. They’ll laugh at you and think you’re a Jar Jar humper. Pretty sure the music didn’t do the prequels many favors, for the exception of Revenge. And even then, real fans aren’t gushing over John William’s string work while Obi and Ani are duking it out in the best saber duel of the series.
In short. Soundtrack isn’t the best of all time. If you were expecting that, you’re an idiot.
If you think this soundtrack means Williams isn’t the man he was, your opinion is closed-minded as all hell.
And if you think the movie is going to be tarnished somehow because of the music…. well… stick to the damn music and ignore the movie altogether. The two are not the same thing.
Can’t wait to see the movie tomorrow night.
You agree with me?
Rey’s Theme reminds me a bit of Dobby the House Elf from Harry Potter
March of the Resistance has a variation of Belly of the Steel Beast from Indiana Jones and The Boy Chase from Hook
Han and Leia uses a fraction of Betrayal at Bespin
Snoke reminds me a bit of Palatine’s Teachings
I think you all going to love the opening of Scherzo for X Wing
I do agree with you. And I’ve found that even with the prequel trilogy, the majority of the soundtracks have weak songs, and a few REALLY STRONG songs. I agree that TFA lacks a "Duel of the Fates", or "Battle of the Heroes", but that doesn’t automatically disqualify this soundtrack.
People need to wait longer than one day before they call something terrible. Same with the loons that say something is the best thing ever within the same time frame. But, nobody here is saying that, so… yeah.
On a completely unrelated note, I’m hearing many similarities between this and Shadows of the Empire.
Thanks to the uploader for this!
EDIT: Aaaaaaaaaaalso, am I the only one that feels as though this music is WAY out of order? Perhaps to avoid spoilers?
When Williams was approached for TFA, he was probably like "Not this shit again."
People need to wait longer than one day before they call something terrible. Same with the loons that say something is the best thing ever within the same time frame. But, nobody here is saying that, so… yeah.
Yes, because after I hear this score a lot, like what happened to me with the prequel trilogy, I think I’ll love the score AT LEAST as much as I do the prequel trilogy music, "I’ve got a good feeling about this."
I think for a moment we… were, blinded… by all the other Star Wars music that exists. That may have clouded a lot of people’s judgement.
Songs? What songs??? Apart from Lapti Nek, that is.
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Songs? What songs??? Apart from Lapti Nek, that is.
Lapti Nek is not from the prequel trilogy.
When Williams was approached for TFA, he was probably like "Not this shit again."
Really? How ignorant can someone be? There’s a reason why he doesn’t do scores for the spin offs. Because he feels the way that you expressed in the bolded text. If he felt that way about this film, which he has been on record saying he’s thrilled to be back working on the newest Star Wars saga, he simply wouldn’t have reprised the music. Simple. As. That.
Yes, because after I hear this score a lot, like what happened to me with the prequel trilogy, I think I’ll love the score AT LEAST as much as I do the prequel trilogy music, "I’ve got a good feeling about this."
I think for a moment we… were, blinded… by all the other Star Wars music that exists. That may have clouded a lot of people’s judgement.
Yeah, I think it’s one of those things where people are a little disappointed, but it’ll grow on them. For me, not one song was ‘skippable’. There are PLENTY of songs that I skip on the other soundtracks.
So. That’s a huge positive. Right?
Yeah, I think it’s one of those things where people are a little disappointed, but it’ll grow on them. For me, not one song was ‘skippable’. There are PLENTY of songs that I skip on the other soundtracks.
So. That’s a huge positive. Right?
Guess so. Can’t wait to see it. Good day to you guys. 🙂
*cough* "even with the prequel trilogy," *cough*
I liked the new themes and the use of old ones
thanks lilu
YES! Thats the approach you need to be taking.
Exactly.
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Gee. We could at least find a middle ground…
This is the middle ground.
Yeah, If you Google Star Wars 7 Teaser Music sheets it says so on one of the pages.
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I agree, the original film scores and the prequels are better than this one, sad to say but it’s true.
*cough* blame Disney *cough*
I totally agree sirs, I’ve not seen the film yet, and with most film scores, I tend to watch the film first.
I just hope Disney doesn’t fuck the Star Wars franchise up for the new generation; maybe Lucas would’ve been better off not to sell to Disney…
…But then it’ll take longer for any NEW Star Wars films to be made. It’s a catch 22.
A few things after my second listen:
1. Noticeably more reverb than the previous recordings (could be the room, maybe the mastering). I prefer it somewhat drier.
2. The London Symphony Orchestra is sadly missed. The difference hits one on an instinctive level, my ears having been so well trained to the Star Wars sound for too, too many years.
3. Lacks the sort of showcase pieces Williams notably provided the preceding chapters, with none of the action material making for as rewarding a standalone listen as, let’s say, the "TIE Fighter Attack", "The Asteroid Field" or "Zam the Assassin". Scherzo for X-Wings is a more than respectable track but too mannered for my taste to be considered "fun".
4. The orchestration is particularly more refined.
5. Not disappointed with the 3 prominent new themes.
6. The Finale ends on a peculiarly light note. Don’t know what’s up with that.
I can’t say I’m disappointed, though I can only imagine how the score plays out in its entirety (and what it would sound like with the superior London orchestra players).
Solid 3.75 outa 5.
1. Noticeably more reverb than the previous recordings (could be the room, maybe the mastering). I prefer it somewhat drier.
2. The London Symphony Orchestra is sadly missed. The difference hits one on an instinctive level, my ears having been so well trained to the Star Wars sound for too, too many years.
3. Lacks the sort of showcase pieces Williams notably provided the preceding chapters, with none of the action material making for as rewarding a standalone listen as, let’s say, the "TIE Fighter Attack", "The Asteroid Field" or "Zam the Assassin". Scherzo for X-Wings is a more than respectable track but too mannered for my taste to be considered "fun".
4. The orchestration is particularly more refined.
5. Not disappointed with the 3 prominent new themes.
6. The Finale ends on a peculiarly light note. Don’t know what’s up with that.
I can’t say I’m disappointed, though I can only imagine how the score plays out in its entirety (and what it would sound like with the superior London orchestra players).
Solid 3.75 outa 5.
I hope we get the complete score or sessions, there will much more to listen to and more variations. I have yet to listen to the whole score and rate it.
I will not listen to the whole score until I see the movie, but so far from what I’ve heard one of my favorite tracks is "March of the Resistance".
Go see the movie as soon as you can: It’s fun entertaining and has a lot of respect for the the original movies.
Yes, exactly my feeling. It’s uninspired, so underwhelming and nothing really stands out. Not something you are used to from a SW score. First thing I said after the screening, where the hell was John Williams? And this album only confirms my feelings about that, sadly enough. It’s really time for him to pass on the legacy.
That may just be the Abrams effect. Williams can’t score a movie that isn’t there. Again, the Abrams effect.
I’m willing to disagree with you here … I believe Abrams is a much better filmmaker than Lucas. And how much I (we) dislike the prequels, the music was always there. I feel that Williams has scored TFA from a distance, it’s his signature allright but not his heart. It could have been so much more, not necessarily from Williams. Maybe a collaboration could have worked. Zimmer and Williams working together, now that would have been something!!
Yes I have seen it. I also got to experience Star Wars in the cinema in 1977 as a young kid and I can tell you that The Force Awakens is nothing more of a re-.hash of a New Hope…. exact same plot points…. sure jesus it follows the same pattern as JJ???S 09 Trek movie
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGG G.O.o
:awsm:
And to anybody posting spoilers, get a life. SOME people actually want to watch the movie without knowing what happens. Wait until everybody has seen it, then talk about it.
Until then, fuck the hell off.
Get off the board you fucking moron…..
You didn’t like TFA? Ok, so it’s a reboot from ANH… same structure, same twists, same locations but different planets, same drama, same climatic buildup. So what? I think JJ gave it a fresh new look without going ballistic on CGI effects (let’s all praise him for this!!) and it’s the perfect setup for the sequels to come. And I really liked the acting. Daisy and John nailed it, even Ford was good.
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I totally agree sirs, I’ve not seen the film yet, and with most film scores, I tend to watch the film first.
I just hope Disney doesn’t fuck the Star Wars franchise up for the new generation; maybe Lucas would’ve been better off not to sell to Disney…
…But then it’ll take longer for any NEW Star Wars films to be made. It’s a catch 22.
Lucas should never have sold Star Wars to Disney…. he should???ve gone ahead with his own episode 7,8,9 by bringing in others to help him write and let others direct… Disney will milk this fucker to the ground and once they make a profit it???ll be run into the ground and I know after episode 8 I???ll be fucking sick to death of Star Wars with backstories for Han,Bobba fett and any other characters that Disney can ass rape…. sad times ahead,sad times ahead…. Star wars was once special…..
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I’m willing to disagree with you here … I believe Abrams is a much better filmmaker than Lucas. And how much I (we) dislike the prequels, the music was always there. I feel that Williams has scored TFA from a distance, it’s his signature allright but not his heart. It could have been so much more, not necessarily from Williams. Maybe a collaboration could have worked. Zimmer and Williams working together, now that would have been something!!
Williams worked on this movie for just over a year. His heart is all over the movie but it???s a problem with modern movie-making,movies are not allowed to breath as modern audiences suffer from ADHD for fuck sake… Transformers,fast series as case in point. I mean JJ gave us a modern day New Hope and it sucks balls. imo
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You didn’t like TFA? Ok, so it’s a reboot from ANH… same structure, same twists, same locations but different planets, same drama, same climatic buildup. So what? I think JJ gave it a fresh new look without going ballistic on CGI effects (let’s all praise him for this!!) and it’s the perfect setup for the sequels to come. And I really liked the acting. Daisy and John nailed it, even Ford was good.
Daisy was great and great to see Ford actually act again…. but Daisy???s character arc was so fuckin stupid it beggars belief… she could do in one movie what it took Anakin and Luke years to perfect without any training…. Bullshit…. Man this movie Pissed me off so much….. Fuck you Disney
The best Character in the movie was Kylo Ren imo
Ye gods, whatta yousa sayin’?
I wouldn’t go that far in saying ‘it sucks’. Yeah, the story could’ve been more original. But I’m happy it’s better than the prequels. C’mon, you have to admit that.
Daisy was great and great to see Ford actually act again…. but Daisy???s character arc was so fuckin stupid it beggars belief… she could do in one movie what it took Anakin and Luke years to perfect without any training…. Bullshit…. Man this movie Pissed me off so much….. Fuck you Disney
True, Rey goes there very fast… But maybe it’s intentionally. Don’t forget, we still have 2 sequels. Storywise, they can come up with so much. I believe there’s an interesting backstory to Rey (and we already got a glimpse of that) that holds much more than we know. And for all we know she’s already a ***spoiler alert*** partially trained Jedi.
**TFA: "Ok, it is gonna be fun…."
vs
ESB: Grabs audience by throat "Listen up, fuckers. Shit’s gonna happen!!"
Just saying.
Nothing can compete with that…
Williams should go in retirement (like his friend Lucas), he has earned his fame … he shouldn’t do this anymore. His downfall could be pretty hard if he continues like this.
Williams should go in retirement (like his friend Lucas), he has earned his fame … he shouldn’t do this anymore. His downfall could be pretty hard if he continues like this.
And who would you suggest scores Star Wars….. Williams scores depending on the director and the direction of the film… Abrams made the movie… he gave it no heart and no time to breath that ain???t Williams fault….
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Look, I listened again. I am not saying it is **bad**,but
**TFA: "Ok, it is gonna be fun…."
vs
ESB: Grabs audience by throat "Listen up, fuckers. Shit’s gonna happen!!"
Just saying.
Bingo
Best one since Empire.
He didn’t conducted it? I thought he did just based on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjNfOhbzxfI&ab_channel=FilmScoreMedia
Zimmer and Williams working together, now that would have been something!!
Please don’t make me puke
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Williams should go in retirement (like his friend Lucas), he has earned his fame … he shouldn’t do this anymore. His downfall could be pretty hard if he continues like this.
Really? You think he has something to demonstrate you at this point? Have you ever heard anything from Williams from the last decade?
**TFA: "Ok, it is gonna be fun…."
vs
ESB: Grabs audience by throat "Listen up, fuckers. Shit’s gonna happen!!"
Just saying.
I Agree, There Is Some Good Music On TFA, But I Will Always Pick ESB Over Any Other SW CD.
That extended sequence comes second after The Battle of Hoth/Asteroid Field for me.
Asteroid Field Is A Good One, I Like That They Use It For The Star Tours Attraction In The Disney Parks.
The Battle Of Hoth, Is Another Indeed.
Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating an traffic cone field is approximately 3720 to 1.
Well, that’s exactly the reason why I think he should retire.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxtpjrJYz81qeo73ro1_500.gif
:awsm:
I have nothing but respect for Williams. Saying that he ‘deserves’ his well earned retirement, doesn’t mean you’re bashing him. Sure, music is his life. But I’d rather see his legacy passed on to a younger generation. It’s obvious that TFA (and yes, I’ve seen the movie) lacks a good score… and I was a bit surprised by that. You’ve become so used to having a memorable score (good or bad aside) to a new SW movie, you’re expecting nothing less. I was just so dissapointed… I felt it could’ve been so much more. All I’m saying is, TFA is a good movie no doubt, the score is not so much. Maybe it’s time for another composer to take over the legacy, like Desplat is assigned for Rogue One.
Movie – well is was interesting and wonder what happens next
Saw it today, end credits say it was conducted by Williams and William Ross, Orchestrations also by Williams and Ross. Additional Conductor was the Gustav something or other bloke.
In reading interviews and seeing the 60 minutes score special, it seems as if JJ didn’t really direct Williams; just said "do your thing" more or less. It looked as though he was hesitant to approach Williams with criticism and direction. Hell, who wouldn’t be freaking out to work with a legend. I mean JW is totally a god, but I think Abrams could have shown more zeal with creating themes/input. Again, could be totally off. I’m not a tremendous Abrams fan (esp camera movement), but this film looks to be really good. Love this score. Will be listening to it much more today!!! New John Williams! How incredible.
I’m 100% serious, the only other composer that has a similar style and capability is Michael Giacchino. He is the only other one. If anyone else is to compose Star Wars it needs to be him. I hear so much John Williams in his Medal of Honor scores. He is one of his main inspirations anyway.
Yes, I totally agree, his MoH scores comes from the mindset of Williams and has his signature all over the place.
Jupiter Ascending, and all of the other scores he had composed this year proved that he has such a range of talent.
Jupiter Ascending, and all of the other scores he had composed this year proved that he has such a range of talent.
Exactly. That’s why Disney approved Desplat for Rogue One without any prior association with the studio. ;P
Giacchino is as gifted a composer as Abrams is a director. Which is to say, not that gifted at all.
But the modern trailer music on the star wars themes send the shivers down my spine. But the score does nothing with me at all. Though I am not a john williams fan he had made some great cues like duel of fates and battle of heroes and more. It has nothing to do with orchestral music since I like music like ‘Pan’, ‘Lair’, ‘Outcast’, ‘Juipter ascending’, X-men: Last Stand’ The mixing and processing of the music sounds so…ancient.
This is clearly a great compliment for the score. Bravo Mr. Williams.
stfu dickhead
I hate Giacchino’s Star Trek scores…Jurassic World was good though.
I think David Arnold would be pretty good at Star Wars too.
I think people are really underrating this score though. I thought it was pretty great, especially the second half.
Oooo… I strongly disagree, Michael Giacchino is the only other composer I’ve heard that sounds like John Williams.
Listen to "Schmerzen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1WPfxz0Jdo)" or "The Jet Aircraft Facility (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxZVyEwwSwg)" or "The Radar Train (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xulvBtTMfY)" if you don’t believe me.
Gustavo Dudamel? Or was it Gustav Holst? XD
Loved it and the score worked perfectly for it.
Huge cliffhanger ending to the movie though, lololol.
Huge cliffhanger ending to the movie though, lololol.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Ha Ha Ha, just gibberish. Can’t wait to see the movie, I’ll love the music even more. 🙂
There’s only one guy working the block right now who shares Williams’ like-minded dramatic temperament and compositional skill, and that guy, of course, is Alexandre Desplat; the first Deathly Hallows score is testament enough to that.
Okay, I agree with that, but can we now both agree that Alexandre Desplat and Michael Giacchino are the only composers that sound a lot like John Williams and only they can be his successors? You heard the tracks I linked to right? You agree?
It is not life or death, ’tis just music. My saying I feel it is lacking…something is not "bashing". Besides, we all know the retail albums bite….
You are right, to a point. But this, this is STAR WARS, and this, is John Williams, that’s, the difference.
Avec ???La Force Awakens", l???gendaire compositeur John Williams de retour pour la septi???me tranche de la saga. Th???me Rey est un qui se d???marque – sa sorte de bizarre pour commencer, mais construit dans quelque chose d’h???ro???que. Nous avons d’abord l’entendons dans la seconde piste, intitul??? "Le tr???sor", mais il revient ??? plusieurs reprises tout au long de l’album.
Je remarquai aussi plusieurs th???mes cl???s des films originaux inclus. Bien s???r, le th???me principal qui ouvre chaque album Star Wars est l???; Je ???galement rep???r??? le th???me de travail (pensez Binary Sunset) ainsi que le th???me de Leia dans les derni???res pistes. Cette est merveilleux, car il contribue ??? combler les vieux films avec le nouveau … la continuit??? musicale tout au long de toute la saga est un aspect important qui permet ??? tout sentiment de film comme un autre chapitre d’une seule grande histoire ???tant racont???e.
Comme nous allons de l’avant ??? partir d’ici, je suis optimiste pour la suite musicalement. Esp???rons que Williams sera de retour pour marquer les futurs ???pisodes dans l’anthologie. Ensuite, il ya le film spin-off "Rogue One", qui sera marqu??? par Alexandre Desplat, un compositeur de talent. Ce ne sera pas la premi???re fois Desplat vient dans une franchise inspir???e par le travail de Williams (Harry Potter). Il sera int???ressant d’entendre l’interpr???tation musicale de quelqu’un d’autre de la galaxie lointaine, tr???s lointaine …. il peut certainement ???tre fait (les scores aux "Clone Wars" et "rebelles" des dessins anim???s sont assez comp???tents), mais il ne sera jamais Williams. Tout cela pour dire que M. Williams et sa musique sont aussi importants pour Star Wars comme tout autre composant, et je suis reconnaissant que, avec ???La Force r???veille" nous avons un autre r???sultat ???tonnant d’un de mes compositeurs pr???f???r???s
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Giacchino lacks the technical skill of both Williams and Desplat, so no, I can’t agree.
There are plenty of composers who can "sound" like Williams, but it’s the thought, or lack of thought, behind the music which separates composers like Williams and Desplat from the rest of the pack. I’d sooner see someone like Bruce Broughton take over the reins. Now he has always been able to muster bona fide Williams-esque material, but he was put out to pasture over a decade ago, so there ain’t a chance of him ever taking up the baton.
True, in comparison with the other Star Wars films, this time there are less new memorable themes, and this could be a letdown for some..
However, musically and orchestrationally it’s among the best music for film in years!
john is john. no one stands where he does in the film score realm. no one alive at least. it’s not a matter of taste. it’s a fact.
thank you lilu!
john is john. no one stands where he does in the film score realm. no one alive at least. it’s not a matter of taste. it’s a fact.
thank you lilu!
Williams may be Williams, but he’s also not the be all and end all. Besides, Desplat is signed composer for Rogue One, the first composer other than Williams to carry the Star Wars (theatrical) baton. It will be interesting to see if Desplat will be retained for the other stand-alones, just for consistency sake, or whether another composer will enter the fray.
There are plenty of composers who can "sound" like Williams, but it’s the thought, or lack of thought, behind the music which separates composers like Williams and Desplat from the rest of the pack. I’d sooner see someone like Bruce Broughton take over the reins. Now he has always been able to muster bona fide Williams-esque material, but he was put out to pasture over a decade ago, so there ain’t a chance of him ever taking up the baton.
Agree 100%. That’s why I haven’t been so enthusiastic about Giacchino (among other tentpole composers) as of late. His Jurassic World was hollow for me. Desplat’s artistry is so present in his scores. Genuine feelings behind the work driving it. I’d love to see more of this with the upcoming generation of film composers
I???ve not seen the movie yet but I imagine the score was conceived to nail the pace of the film. I guess, Williams learned from his experience with Episode 1 when the awful film editing cut badly most of the musical development. Is for that reason, from Episode 2 there were not too much themes as in the OT.
I???ve read in this forum several bad and disappointing comments from people saying how poor or bad is this score, the weakest of the saga or even that the Master should retire after doing this. What sad and unfair comments! I don???t really understand those narrow minded so called "fans" saying that. I don???t know what they were expecting at all! Maybe that is a kind of fake boycott? or these comments comes from, as rocklegend said: "Most of the dude moaning and complaining about this score are probably die-hard Zimmer fans who can???t grasp the complexity of Motifs and hidden themes… they are so used to hearing fuckin Power Anthems blaring through their iBuds…"
Please be fair and recognize the many merits of this amazing work!
Greetings
I???ve not seen the movie yet but I imagine the score was conceived to nail the pace of the film. I guess, Williams learned from his experience with Episode 1 when the awful film editing cut badly most of the musical development. Is for that reason, from Episode 2 there were not too much themes as in the OT.
I???ve read in this forum several bad and disappointing comments from people saying how poor or bad is this score, the weakest of the saga or even that the Master should retire after doing this. What sad and unfair comments! I don???t really understand those narrow minded so called "fans" saying that. I don???t know what they were expecting at all! Maybe that is a kind of fake boycott? or these comments comes from, as rocklegend said: "Most of the dude moaning and complaining about this score are probably die-hard Zimmer fans who can???t grasp the complexity of Motifs and hidden themes… they are so used to hearing fuckin Power Anthems blaring through their iBuds…"
Please be fair and recognize the many merits of this amazing work!
Greetings
Well said… It is a typical disease these days. Some suffer from a severe form of musical dyslexia, caused by the too frequent listening to the RCP nonsense.
In my opinion it is the best Star Wars score, the old ones are too blatant in many ways.
"This new score of Maestro Williams is great, full of emotion, beauty, subtleties, epic, powerful sound and fresh ideas. Although, is not as easier to listen to as previous
scores for the saga. But I feel that give it a more interesting and modern aspect, since the style of Williams as evolved through the times." And that’s this the point.
Thanks again for this score Mr. Williams. 84 years old and still absolutely extraordinary.
That’s going too far.
There no such thing as a one size fits all music score, and comparing two scores to two films separated by 40 years in filmmaking technique, culture and directorial vision is quite unfair to the ’77 original, Williams himself, and Lucas the brainchild behind it all.
Williams provided A New Hope precisely the musical aesthetic it needed to transcend it’s lowly B movie trappings, and has lent its pale imitation The Force Awakens a score far, far more aesthetically refined than it actually deserves.
There no such thing as a one size fits all music score, and comparing two scores to two films separated by 40 years in filmmaking technique, culture and directorial vision is quite unfair to the ’77 original, Williams himself, and Lucas the brainchild behind it all.
Williams provided A New Hope precisely the musical aesthetic it needed to transcend it’s lowly B movie trappings, and has lent its pale imitation The Force Awakens a score far, far more aesthetically refined than it actually deserves.
Please do not get me wrong, this is not a criticism. The old music is brilliant, just I like the "late" Williams personally simply more.
And yes, I like "A New Hope" not particularly, "The Empire Strikes Back" is for me in every way the best "Star Wars" movie.
There are plenty of composers who can "sound" like Williams, but it’s the thought, or lack of thought, behind the music which separates composers like Williams and Desplat from the rest of the pack. I’d sooner see someone like Bruce Broughton take over the reins. Now he has always been able to muster bona fide Williams-esque material, but he was put out to pasture over a decade ago, so there ain’t a chance of him ever taking up the baton.
Ahh… That’s seems more of an opinion, I think he has the technical skill, a lot of his compositions (mainly from the Medal of Honor series) feel like "If someone told me John Williams composed these, I’d believe them". Didn’t you hear the tracks I had linked to in my other post? "The Jet Aircraft Facility" straight up feels like a piece from Indiana Jones, most of the music from his Medal of Honor scores in general feel like that. John Williams is one of Giacchino’s MAIN inspirations anyway. I don’t see why else they chose Giacchino for Jurrasic World, he did a fantastic job at keeping the Williams feel while incorporating his own themes, it still felt and sounded like Williams. I believe he’s got plenty of Williams’ sort of thought, although, most of the time it depends on what you’re composing for too.
But if that’s the way you feel, who am I to tell you different? This is what I think, that’s what you think. None of us really know any of the composers’ thought process anyway.
As for the debate about Hans Zimmer and Michael Giacchino: I do enjoy much of Zimmer’s music but I also recognize that it’s nowhere near as refined or inspirational as the music of John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner and other very theme-based composers. Zimmer keeps things very simple and it works on an emotional level, which I do enjoy, but I really enjoy the music that makes your mind work. That’s what Williams, Goldsmith, Horner and even Giacchino do.
Michael Giacchino is an excellent young composer who I think has a great future and will be his generation’s John Williams, but he’ll never top The Maestro. The big difference between the two of them for me is that John Williams is more than just a composer of music; he’s a storyteller. He tells a story with his music like nobody else does. You listen to much of his music and you know what’s going on in the movie. Giacchino is young in comparison and hasn’t achieved that yet, but I’m sure Williams hadn’t achieved that same level of refinement when he was Giacchino’s age. After all, how many of Williams’ early works do we recall before Jaws which was his major breakthrough score. Give Giacchino time and I think he’ll become a better storyteller.
As for the debate about Hans Zimmer and Michael Giacchino: I do enjoy much of Zimmer’s music but I also recognize that it’s nowhere near as refined or inspirational as the music of John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner and other very theme-based composers. Zimmer keeps things very simple and it works on an emotional level, which I do enjoy, but I really enjoy the music that makes your mind work. That’s what Williams, Goldsmith, Horner and even Giacchino do.
Michael Giacchino is an excellent young composer who I think has a great future and will be his generation’s John Williams, but he’ll never top The Maestro. The big difference between the two of them for me is that John Williams is more than just a composer of music; he’s a storyteller. He tells a story with his music like nobody else does. You listen to much of his music and you know what’s going on in the movie. Giacchino is young in comparison and hasn’t achieved that yet, but I’m sure Williams hadn’t achieved that same level of refinement when he was Giacchino’s age. After all, how many of Williams’ early works do we recall before Jaws which was his major breakthrough score. Give Giacchino time and I think he’ll become a better storyteller.
I completely agree!
Williams is clever to continue giving us superb big orchestral music without compromising emotion and really using the power of scoring stage acoustics.
Williams is clever to continue giving us superb big orchestral music without compromising emotion and really using the power of scoring stage acoustics.
I also agree. Yes, since Call of Duty, he has taken a more gritty approach. But I think Medal of Honor: Airborne is almost never lacking, maybe sometimes in 3 or 4 songs, maybe, but give "Room By Room"-
a listen, its one of my favorite songs from that game. 🙂
As for his music, I enjoy it just fine and feel like he’s come a long way in the last six years. I look at his two Star Trek scores as good examples of his growth. I really like his score for 2009’s Star Trek but it seems to lack depth. But his Into Darkness score is much more mature and well-rounded. And then by the time you get to Jupiter Ascending there’s an even bigger difference still! He’s still got development to do but he’s currently my favorite non-Williams composer.
As for his music, I enjoy it just fine and feel like he’s come a long way in the last six years. I look at his two Star Trek scores as good examples of his growth. I really like his score for 2009’s Star Trek but it seems to lack depth. But his Into Darkness score is much more mature and well-rounded. And then by the time you get to Jupiter Ascending there’s an even bigger difference still! He’s still got development to do but he’s currently my favorite non-Williams composer.
As you may already know by my previous posts, my favorite scores by him are all of his Medal of Honor scores, and the two Call of Duty scores, one of which was never released (for some reason)
I really like his other scores too, of course, but this is where I’ve seen him shine most frequently.
Ran out of room so it’s cramped right now.
Thanks for the hi-res versions. 🙂
Thanks!!!
If you guys like John Williams, please buy and upload:
Jurassic Park (24bit 192kHz):
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Jaws 2 (24bit 96kHz):
http://www.hdtracks.com/jaws-2-original-motion-picture-soundtrack
Happy holidays!
Thanks!!!
You ought to learn to shut your fucking mouth.
The usual fucks will show up and talk shit in this thread.
Lilu’s thread.
Selfish fucks.
The usual fucks will show up and talk shit in this thread.
Lilu’s thread.
Selfish fucks.
You rock my friend!
HDtracks.com and ProStudioMasters.com are selling 192kHz version for 30 dollars.
But… why?
See my gears:
This is what I use to listen to music. It has 24bit 192kHz support converter system.
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That is useless if you don’t have the ears.
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$3,799.90
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My earbuds:
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Hurmm…
Hurmm…
They costed my arms and legs…so I can’t buy anything anymore. I live in a room which I can barely put my feet into.
Hahahahaha, dude. You made me laugh. I don’t care if people say you’re a troll, at the very least you’re funny. Kudos to you.
But in this case I’ve noticed that the cd version sounds louder because it has dynamic range compression, whereas the 24 bit versions have the full dynamic range. I downloaded the 24/96 version and then coverted it to 16/44 so it has the full DR with the 16/44 size.
Sadly, I can believe this.
https://www.audeze.com/products/lcd-collection/lcd-4
This will be my next headphone. I’m selling my right kidney for that.
This will be my next headphone. I’m selling my right kidney for that.
You know that this is shockingly funny, right? Or not?
An Audeze? Jeez, why don???t you take some hardware that is less loaded with audiophile marketing hype and actually constructed by people who have more than 70 years of research behind them? Just keep your Sennheiser.
Anyway, I don???t want to crush the fun everyones’ having… but both HiRes versions are probably a fake (not the uploaders’ fault!). Signals above 20 kHz look like a flat line up to 40 kHz (96 kHz sampling frequency) in gain alongside the actual gain of the music itself. This is not what happens when natural instruments and their overtones are recorded by microphones. Actual instruments would also show irregular patterns instead of the VERY regular ones I can see here.
Secondly, compared to the CD version the frequency response of the HiRes version is different. On the HiRes versions, the frequency response rises from 10 kHz to 14 kHz by roughly +1 dB and from then on sharply by +9 dB to 20 kHz. If this would be caused by a resampler resampling from HiRes to CD, it would be the worst one I have seen during my 25 years I concern myself with these matters. The slope of this gain-rise suspiciously looks like a common DSP effect applied after it was recorded.
All of this leads me to believe that the additional stuff above 20 kHz is caused by an exciter, though one I haven???t seen yet personally.
The material used for what Sony Classical sells as "HiRes" was probably a 24/44.1 or 24/48 source. Or maybe even the CD master.
If you mean the digital collection LP rip coming in Jan 8..
Also, HDLossless is just trolling. He isn’t serious at all.
If you mean the digital collection LP rip coming in Jan 8..
Also, HDLossless is just trolling. He isn’t serious at all.
Ooops, you???re correct. Walt Disney Records, distributed by Universal. My bad, confused it with the prequel scores.
People say it sounds like shit but I honestly think it sounds fine.. good grief I don’t have an advanced ear.. or else I’d hate it. Considering to buy it because 61 euros right now for all the soundtracks ever released, with one or two extras and nice presentation, I’m really fine with it, what do you think?
If there will be – somehow – more music. But why would I remaster TFA when the sound is good? A bit too wide, a bit hollow sounding, a bit too crisp. Apart from that? Perfect so far.
I Know I Was Kidding 😀
But All The Other You Have Made Are Fantastic, My Fav being From hell. Thanks again 🙂
But All The Other You Have Made Are Fantastic, My Fav being From hell. Thanks again 🙂
Thanks! 🙂
No. Thank You For Your Dedication, Hard Work and Genorosity. 🙂
This will be my next headphone. I’m selling my right kidney for that.
It might be more worthy in your case to buy a proper functional brain.
Anyway, a very huge THANK YOU to Lilu for this amazing share and the great effort of all those links and quality. Amazing job and dedication.
Main Titles and The Attack on the Jakku Village
The Scavenger
Rey Meets BB8
I Can Fly Anything
Follow Me
The Falcon
That Girl with the Staff
The Rathtars
Snoke
Maz’s Counsel
Finn’s Confession
The Starkiller
Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle
The Abduction
Han and Leia
On the Inside
Torn Apart
Scherzo for X-Wings
The Ways of the Force
Farewell and The Trip
The Jedi Steps and Finale
Suites:
Rey’s Theme
March of the Resistance
I am not 100% if Scherzo for X-Wings or Ways of the Force come first. I believe X-Wings is first since I know what Ways of the Force is exactly. Only seen film once so can’t remember what cues are right after that and I remember before it.
But in this case I’ve noticed that the cd version sounds louder because it has dynamic range compression, whereas the 24 bit versions have the full dynamic range. I downloaded the 24/96 version and then coverted it to 16/44 so it has the full DR with the 16/44 size.
Thanks for this info, jorge5150. You are correct; the CD version is compressed. I followed your advice and it sounds great.
And thank you, Lilu!!!
And thank you, Lilu!!!
A big thanks from me too, I forgot the First time. Those files will serve me nicely until my CD arrives.
Btw, the hires version is compressed, too. Only less. In any case, the compression is very well done so we shouldn’t expect to hear bad sound 🙂
Main Titles and The Attack on the Jakku Village
The Scavenger
Rey Meets BB8
I Can Fly Anything
Follow Me
The Falcon
That Girl with the Staff
The Rathtars
Snoke
Maz’s Counsel
Finn’s Confession
The Starkiller
Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle
The Abduction
Han and Leia
On the Inside
Torn Apart
Scherzo for X-Wings
The Ways of the Force
Farewell and The Trip
The Jedi Steps and Finale
Suites:
Rey’s Theme
March of the Resistance
I am not 100% if Scherzo for X-Wings or Ways of the Force come first. I believe X-Wings is first since I know what Ways of the Force is exactly. Only seen film once so can’t remember what cues are right after that and I remember before it.
It’s also worth noting that Scherzo for X-Wings is a concert suite. Bits and pieces of it appear in the film.
Another aspect to consider, is how Abrams edited the film. With the first six Star Wars films, save for maybe Attack of the Clones, Williams was able to analyze the films as a whole. According to an interview Williams gave to PBS’ Tavis Smiley this week, he prefers to develop themes for the last act of a film and then go back to the beginning and compose the score to gradually build up to the ending themes. With TFA, Abrams edited the footage chronologically in 30-minute chunks. So Williams and Abrams went back numerous times to re-compose the early and mid portions of the film. This process took from June to November. Which is a highly unusual time frame.
Again, I like that it’s different. Very much looking forward, and hoping, Williams continues through Episode IX (the Force willing, of course).
16 bit FLAC and CD versions:
DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR10 -0.48 dB -14.00 dB 6:27 01-Main Title and the Attack on the Jakku Village
DR13 -2.38 dB -22.48 dB 3:43 02-The Scavenger
DR10 -0.46 dB -14.37 dB 3:13 03-I Can Fly Anything
DR12 -0.52 dB -21.06 dB 1:33 04-Rey Meets BB-8
DR10 -0.50 dB -15.61 dB 2:56 05-Follow Me
DR11 -0.50 dB -16.09 dB 3:12 06-Rey’s Theme
DR11 -0.50 dB -14.19 dB 3:35 07-The Falcon
DR14 -0.50 dB -20.84 dB 1:59 08-That Girl with the Staff
DR11 -0.50 dB -15.25 dB 4:08 09-The Rathtars!
DR13 -0.66 dB -21.08 dB 2:09 10-Finn’s Confession
DR13 -0.50 dB -20.28 dB 3:09 11-Maz’s Counsel
DR12 -6.26 dB -24.36 dB 1:52 12-The Starkiller
DR11 -0.51 dB -15.57 dB 2:01 13-Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle
DR10 -0.50 dB -15.41 dB 2:25 14-The Abduction
DR15 -0.76 dB -21.24 dB 4:46 15-Han and Leia
DR10 -0.50 dB -13.49 dB 2:36 16-March of the Resistance
DR10 -12.07 dB -28.25 dB 2:04 17-Snoke
DR14 -0.50 dB -19.39 dB 2:06 18-On the Inside
DR10 -0.50 dB -15.65 dB 4:20 19-Torn Apart
DR11 -0.50 dB -15.50 dB 3:16 20-The Ways of the Force
DR10 -0.50 dB -13.45 dB 2:33 21-Scherzo for X-Wings
DR11 -0.50 dB -16.24 dB 4:57 22-Farewell and the Trip
DR10 -0.42 dB -15.01 dB 8:52 23-The Jedi Steps and Finale
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Number of tracks: 23
Official DR value: DR11
Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 685 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/100329
24/96 and 24/192 versions:
DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR12 -0.16 dB -15.73 dB 6:26 01-Main Title and The Attack on the Jakku Village
DR13 -4.13 dB -24.17 dB 3:40 02-The Scavenger
DR12 -0.18 dB -16.05 dB 3:11 03-I Can Fly Anything
DR12 -0.51 dB -22.84 dB 1:31 04-Rey Meets BB-8
DR12 -0.30 dB -17.20 dB 2:55 05-Follow Me
DR11 -1.79 dB -18.08 dB 3:11 06-Rey’s Theme
DR13 -0.25 dB -15.86 dB 3:32 07-The Falcon
DR15 -0.70 dB -22.59 dB 1:59 08-That Girl with the Staff
DR13 -0.20 dB -16.92 dB 4:06 09-The Rathtars!
DR13 -2.40 dB -23.00 dB 2:09 10-Finn’s Confession
DR15 -0.35 dB -22.15 dB 3:08 11-Maz’s Counsel
DR12 -7.94 dB -25.97 dB 1:50 12-The Starkiller
DR12 -0.22 dB -16.95 dB 2:00 13-Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle
DR11 -0.11 dB -16.63 dB 2:24 14-The Abduction
DR14 -2.86 dB -23.16 dB 4:42 15-Han and Leia
DR11 -0.26 dB -15.12 dB 2:34 16-March of the Resistance
DR10 -13.80 dB -30.03 dB 2:03 17-Snoke
DR15 -0.27 dB -21.12 dB 2:06 18-On the Inside
DR12 -0.25 dB -17.37 dB 4:19 19-Torn Apart
DR12 -0.33 dB -16.80 dB 3:15 20-The Ways of the Force
DR12 -0.01 dB -15.09 dB 2:32 21-Scherzo for X-Wings
DR12 -0.55 dB -18.06 dB 4:56 22-Farewell and The Trip
DR12 -0.18 dB -16.01 dB 8:51 23-The Jedi Steps and Finale
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Number of tracks: 23
Official DR value: DR12
Samplerate: 96000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 2746 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/100335
https://www.adrive.com/public/PqWcS4/John%20Williams%20-%20Star%20Wars%3B%20The%20Force%20Awakens%20(Origi nal%20Motion%20Picture%20Soundtrack)%20(2015)%20-%20WEB%20FLAC.rar
Regards, my friend!!! 🙂
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5527081/Main%20Title%20and%20The%20Attack%20on%20the%20Ja. png
Edit: Infact the 24/96 and 24/192 copies are a lot noisier than the CD copies overall, the artifacts are not just above 22.05kHz; CD copy () vs Downsampled 24/192 (
).
The CD copies are limited a little (about 2dB louder by limiting), the ‘Mastered for iTunes’ version is similar to the CD version but more softly limited (CD version is brickwall limited).
The 16/44.1 WEB FLAC seems to be a lossless version of the iTunes version, so personally I’d recommend using that.
I’m not sure what caused the artifacts since it looks like what you would get with clipping rather than improperly upsampling, I’m no expert though so hopefully someone else might know what is the cause of this. It kind of looks like they have used some process to create fake harmonics (badly).


The CD copies are limited a little (about 2dB louder by limiting), the ‘Mastered for iTunes’ version is similar to the CD version but more softly limited (CD version is brickwall limited).
The 16/44.1 WEB FLAC seems to be a lossless version of the iTunes version, so personally I’d recommend using that.
I’m not sure what caused the artifacts since it looks like what you would get with clipping rather than improperly upsampling, I’m no expert though so hopefully someone else might know what is the cause of this.
Thank you very much for that picture! I failed to provide that when I explained that the 96 / 192 versions are fake. The artifacts are caused by an exciter. This seems to be a very bad exciter since it aliases into the lower frequency band (-> what we can actually hear). If you remove the music, leaving only the noise, it sounds suspiciously like quantization noise though. Very odd. I wouldn???t touch the 96 / 192, they aren???t real.
Yeah it seems it is deliberate, high-res audio is a scam in my opinion anyway. I’d rather have a better (or more dynamic) master. I may experiment with an exciter to see if I can mimic what they used.
Edit: Just tested an exciter and it looks very similar.
Another aspect to consider, is how Abrams edited the film. With the first six Star Wars films, save for maybe Attack of the Clones, Williams was able to analyze the films as a whole. According to an interview Williams gave to PBS’ Tavis Smiley this week, he prefers to develop themes for the last act of a film and then go back to the beginning and compose the score to gradually build up to the ending themes. With TFA, Abrams edited the footage chronologically in 30-minute chunks. So Williams and Abrams went back numerous times to re-compose the early and mid portions of the film. This process took from June to November. Which is a highly unusual time frame.
Again, I like that it’s different. Very much looking forward, and hoping, Williams continues through Episode IX (the Force willing, of course).
Having read that then.. hopefully we’ll have better music for Episodes 8 and 9.


The CD copies are limited a little (about 2dB louder by limiting), the ‘Mastered for iTunes’ version is similar to the CD version but more softly limited (CD version is brickwall limited).
The 16/44.1 WEB FLAC seems to be a lossless version of the iTunes version, so personally I’d recommend using that.
I’m not sure what caused the artifacts since it looks like what you would get with clipping rather than improperly upsampling, I’m no expert though so hopefully someone else might know what is the cause of this. It kind of looks like they have used some process to create fake harmonics (badly).
And I was so happy to be supporting a high-res release of Johnny’s music. Leave it to these bastards to fake the damn thing! Guess I’ll be downloading the WEB FLAC to replace my legitimately purchased "high-res" files. 🙁
Just for educational purposes, does anyone know why the faked high-res master has better dynamic range?
Do you think that the hi-res releases in January of the six soundtracks will also be fake?
Is Sony a big enough asshole to have a possibility of letting something like that happen?
There is an AMA on reddit about the new collection here (https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3w97d3/were_pat_sullivan_dann_michael_thompson_and_shawn/) if anyone is interested
Oh wow! That’s an interesting thread. Thank you very much for the link!
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It’s sad that it’s done – I wish I could’ve asked him if the new CD boxset will have new masters or anything.. or will be just another reissue.
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Q: How will the remastering of this new box set be different from the previous releases? I’d love to hear a much better release of the original trilogy recordings
That being said, I will probably get this set regardless because it looks so freaking cool.
A:Well, I think this is the first time we’ve have all six episodes on vinyl. So, that’s a difference.
The fact that Dann retransferred original analog 2 tracks on 4, 5 and 6 to 192 means we should have higher resolution available for the CDs and vinyl for those three. On 1, 2 and 3, we’re working from similar masters that Pat created originally. So, those are probably going to be more similar in the CD world to what was originally there, although the vinyl world will be different because it’s the first time they’ve been out. My sense is those are the differences. Not to say… there’s more to come.. More could be done, but this is a lot already.
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Q: For Episodes I, II, and III, we still only have the "studio album" versions of the score. Was there any consideration for putting together the chronological score as was done for the original trilogy presenting the exact takes/mixes that were used in the films?
A: That’s a Sony question. (everyone laughs)
I’ll give you the quick answer. That answer is, sure.
We were hoping that when we did the special edition of Episode 1 that that would take place for Episode 2 & 3, but it never did. What I can tell you is, editorially, it would have to be an effort to put complete cues together, as opposed to how they existed in the film. But all of that material is available; the edit notes are available, the scores are available, and the multi-track masters are available. So, it’s a matter of desire, and I’m sure budget, to accomplish that.
But could it be done? Absolutely. Sequential, complete versions of those scores could be done.
Q-A: Thanks for the answer! It’s good to know that all the ingredients are there. I hope this project helps show Sony that there is money to be made on Star Wars (I realize that it’s kind a cult thing where most people aren’t aware of these films).
Sigh, still no answers about the CDs, it seems like it will be just another reissue with nothing special. But the LPs and digital release are.. guess then I should be getting both physical 10CD box and the digital LP remastering. Hopefully someone uploads that last one in FLAC here.
The files are fake, as in what is sold is fake, and upconverted horribly. It’s a shame they are actually being sold in a digital shop I believe-
I threw the files into Audition and saw the same artifacting.
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HDtracks.com and ProStudioMasters.com are selling 192kHz version for 30 dollars.
HDtracks is selling 24/192 for $23.
Yes. Sony is one of the biggest assholes. When SACD hit the market in 2000, they re-released several albums on the new medium (which is Hi-Res as well). The source for lots of releases: the CD master, so 16/44.1.
01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27)
02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53)
03 The Scavenger (1:52)
04 Lunchtime (1:12)
05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09)
06 Finn’s Trek (1:35)
07 Follow Me and The Falcon (2:58)
08 The Rathtars (1:19)
09 Snoke (2:07)
10 You Got A Name? (1:32)
11 I’m No Hero (1:06)
12 The Starkiller (1:52)
13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15)
14 The Resistance (1:35)
15 The Abduction (1:35)
16 Finn and Poe, United (2:01)
17 The Bombing Run (2:07)
18 On the Inside (2:54)
19 Torn Apart (4:24)
20 The Ways of the Force (3:58)
21 The Journey Home (2:18)
22 Farewell and The Trip (3:49)
23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58)
The labels are doing it themselves. It surely isn???t the first time this has happened.
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That’s a damn shame. I can’t see the recording sessions being done at a lower rate, and I can’t see this being a mistake since someone had to deliberately do this, so I don’t get why they didn’t just use the proper files.
They probably had only one master which was at, I guess, 24/44.1 or 24/48. Since Hi-Res is all the rage now (for all the wrong reasons) they decided to try and squeeze more money out of stupid audiophools. And they know they can, because Audiophiles don???t look at spectograms (they are technically illiterate people with too much money).
01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27)
02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53)
03 The Scavenger (1:52)
04 Lunchtime (1:12)
05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09)
06 Finn’s Trek (1:35)
07 Follow Me and The Falcon (2:58)
08 The Rathtars (1:19)
09 Snoke (2:07)
10 You Got A Name? (1:32)
11 I’m No Hero (1:06)
12 The Starkiller (1:52)
13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15)
14 The Resistance (1:35)
15 The Abduction (1:35)
16 Finn and Poe, United (2:01)
17 The Bombing Run (2:07)
18 On the Inside (2:54)
19 Torn Apart (4:24)
20 The Ways of the Force (3:58)
21 The Journey Home (2:18)
22 Farewell and The Trip (3:49)
23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58)
Link? What’s "FYI". Did you mean "FYC"?
STAR WARS THE FORCE AWAKENS – FYC PROMO – JOHN WILLIAMS new music ! (Thread 197983) (Here’s a thread for the new tracks.)
I hope the difference is drastic.
it fits right in the regular CD release Track "The Ways of the Force" after 13seconds…
http://www.filedropper.com/starwars-theforceawakens-finalscript
http://www.filedropper.com/starwars-theforceawakens-finalscript
It’s all over the internet, you don’t even really have to search for it much. But rhoadsfanz helped you out, I see 🙂
The commercial release was compressed. Simple as that.
8.75 megs per min ~ 77.8 min should be around 680.75 megs, but it’s 785 megs. Simple as that.
Figured it out, it was the lame ass program I was using. eh heh
http://www.hdtracks.com/star-wars-the-ultimate-digital-collection-277034
The whole 6 hour long Star Wars soundtrack collection by John Williams is available in 24bit 192kHz FLAC.
Please upload this!
Thanks!
http://www.hdtracks.com/star-wars-the-ultimate-digital-collection-277034
The whole 6 hour long Star Wars soundtrack collection by John Williams is available in 24bit 192kHz FLAC.
Please upload this!
Thanks!
Or Better Yet YOU Buy It, Then YOU Upload It.
You know you’re talking to a wall right there, fella. :laugh:
Most Are Walls Nowadays….
Respect ? what do you know about respect when you steal the score of others to re-post it with your Tapoktro (the chameleon) account, and when you put your download link on the thread of their creator to derive profit through advertising ? Please if one person here has to forget this word "respect" it’s you : warstar937 !
Walt Disney Records is set to release a new hologram vinyl version of the original motion picture soundtrack for Star Wars: The Force Awakens. With score conducted and composed by five-time Academy Award???-winning composer John Williams and liner notes by the film’s director, J.J. Abrams, the double LP features a 16-page booklet on 180 gram vinyl. This one-of-a-kind vinyl set, hand etched by Tristan Duke (Jack White???s Lazaretto) of Infinity Light Science, offers a 3D hologram experience featuring the Millennium Falcon on Disc 1/Side B and a TIE Fighter on Disc 2/Side B. For optimal viewing, use a direct light source or simply hold a mobile phone flashlight above the vinyl to view the holograms.
Tristan Duke founded Infinity Light Science in 2008, a research laboratory with an emphasis on laser holography, interferometry, light-field imaging, hand-drawn holography, and relativistic imaging.
The must-have vinyl album also features Direct Metal Mastering (DMM) for an optimal listening experience. Disney Music Group has joined forces with Pro-Ject Audio Systems to showcase this unique, next-level advancement in holographic vinyl technology with the Elemental turntable, a combination of minimalist design and maximum performance from the world leader in high fidelity turntables. The two brands will collaborate on co-promotions at retail, online, and radio.
What he /\ said,..Please.
But in this case I’ve noticed that the cd version sounds louder because it has dynamic range compression, whereas the 24 bit versions have the full dynamic range. I downloaded the 24/96 version and then coverted it to 16/44 so it has the full DR with the 16/44 size.
What utter nonsense! I was in the audio industry for many years, and have a home hi-fi system (mostly Linn gear) which would have retailed for many thousands of pounds at the time. Do you really think I would have spent that money if they ‘all sound exactly the same’? I only use CD’s in the car, ’cause the sound of vinyl or hi-res audio is so much better than 44/16. If you can’t hear the difference, either you have no idea what you are listening for, or your audio gear must be really bad/poorly set up. And don’t even get me started on mp3, which sounds so bad I don’t know how anyone can listen to it!