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Woah, I never knew this got an actual promo release. I thought he just released the tracks through his website. The more you know.
IKR!?
Woah, I never knew this got an actual promo release. I thought he just released the tracks through his website. The more you know.
Well I understand Yared may have given some CDs out to fans, but I’m pretty sure most any "promo" you come across is just from some European bootleggers. That’s not to say that they aren’t worth having (it’s great music!), just that no CD of Yared’s score is legitimate, since the rights holders (Warner Bros.) will never release it.
Great post by the way! More score fans should know about this one.
My first time listening to it; you’re right, it’s great! Even more fun to listen to considering its interesting history.
But this is an AMAZING score. I don’t listen or recommend listening to the final track which is from James Horner. The set is otherwise perfect.
The movie is pretty well done too although I’m a bit disappointed in the American squeamishness of representing Achilles and Petroclus relationship more in line with the traditional interpretation… but I digress…
This is very clearly true lossless; were the tracks on his website lossless files? Because otherwise then I’m not sure how these tracks would surface in this quality.
You mean an American portrayal of real-life historical figures is not accurate? You don’t say?
*starts belting out*
"And I’m proud to be an American. Where at least I know I’m free" :p
Nah, I remember downloading them, burning to disc, the whole shebang. Most of the songs weren’t complete like this promo either. The quality was maybe 96 or 128, at least when I compare the first burned disc I had with this one. Like others said I think it was a promo ‘leak’ that occurred in Europe, possibly from a promo Yared gave to someone. He was really sore about his score rejected back in 2004 – at least it seemed that way looking back on it. Maybe I’ll drag that old disc out and see if anything doesn’t match, but I know this promo is far superior to those tracks.
Thanks for sharing the FLAC! I don’t even how many copies I have of this on multiple drives…
Happily, the music is just dandy.
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Horner’s Troy:
The music critic Alex Ross claims that large portions of the score were essentially plagiarized from works by Shostakovich and Prokofiev; one instance cited by Ross, fanfares from Benjamin Britten’s War Requiem, has been explicitly recognised by another critic as an "exact copy" by Horner
(it is nice to know that Horner listened to LOTS of classical music)
Quite the "lovely person" you are indeed. Might I suggest you use that wooden stake on yourself…"in your heart"?
Horner’s gratuitous and petulant attack on Yared appalled me at the time, but what makes me smile wryly is how, after saying how completely wrong Yared’s music was, he produced tracks that were near-copies of their predecessors, even to the extent of using the same instruments and soloists. I find Horner’s score mostly sonic mush, and it was only after I heard Yared’s version that I realised the parts of the film where I felt the score actually worked to support what was on-screen — as opposed to merely filling the aural space — were the cues where Horner had essentially mimicked Yared’s original work.
I once wrote to Yared, thanking him for his score (and saying I thought the real failure was in the studio’s lack of courage) and telling him how much pleasure the score gave me even as music for its own sake; his reply was incredibly modest, kind and friendly, but he was clearly still burnt by the experience. He seemed most shocked, to my perception, that a work of artistic expression could be treated as a faulty product and just locked away forever. His comment to me was that this "leaked" version of the score was from the source tracks prepared by the studio as recording sessions were completed — he never got to finish all the sessions, so there are still cues missing that were never recorded — in preparation for a "for your consideration"-style promo CD. He said that he and Petersen had been very happy with the tone and style he had achieved, but the publicity department saw the film very differently in terms of target market, agitated the producers and then produced a focus group that validated their point of view; up until then, the studio had told him they thought they were on a real winner, and that his score would really differentiate their film. Gabriel told me that, for obvious reasons, he could express no opinion on how the recordings got into the hands of fans, but that in many ways he was happy if people could hear his music and find enjoyment in it.
I haven’t watched the film nor heard Horner’s music. I’ve also never heard a Gabriel Yared score. I think I’ll start with this one :laugh:
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Shameful moment in Hollywood behaviour.
Horner’s gratuitous and petulant attack on Yared appalled me at the time, but what makes me smile wryly is how, after saying how completely wrong Yared’s music was, he produced tracks that were near-copies of their predecessors, even to the extent of using the same instruments and soloists. I find Horner’s score mostly sonic mush, and it was only after I heard Yared’s version that I realised the parts of the film where I felt the score actually worked to support what was on-screen — as opposed to merely filling the aural space — were the cues where Horner had essentially mimicked Yared’s original work.
So sad to aknowledge this behind the scenes story! 🙁
I once wrote to Yared, thanking him for his score (and saying I thought the real failure was in the studio’s lack of courage) and telling him how much pleasure the score gave me even as music for its own sake; his reply was incredibly modest, kind and friendly, but he was clearly still burnt by the experience. He seemed most shocked, to my perception, that a work of artistic expression could be treated as a faulty product and just locked away forever. His comment to me was that this "leaked" version of the score was from the source tracks prepared by the studio as recording sessions were completed — he never got to finish all the sessions, so there are still cues missing that were never recorded — in preparation for a "for your consideration"-style promo CD. He said that he and Petersen had been very happy with the tone and style he had achieved, but the publicity department saw the film very differently in terms of target market, agitated the producers and then produced a focus group that validated their point of view; up until then, the studio had told him they thought they were on a real winner, and that his score would really differentiate their film. Gabriel told me that, for obvious reasons, he could express no opinion on how the recordings got into the hands of fans, but that in many ways he was happy if people could hear his music and find enjoyment in it.
Hope I’ll enjoy his score, too.
So, die hard film score fans like us can actually write to film composers and talk to them about their leaked music that we listen (and appreciate)? o.O
I got a bit confused… It would be a dream if we could contact all of our favourite composers and have great conversations! 😀
Yeah, why not? 😉
On this occasion, I’m not sure why, but I felt moved to express support for Yared because I truly appreciated his score for this. (And it’s not my business, but I felt a bit disgusted at how he’d been treated.) Not something I’ve done often, though. Only other time was with Bruce Smeaton, the Aussie composer, because I love his music for the Fred Schepisi film "The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith", and there’s not a decent version of it on disc anywhere that I could find. He didn’t know of one either, sadly, but he was very friendly, and appreciated my fondness for his music in general, and we had a lovely chat. Not everyone would have the time or inclination to reply though, I suspect.
I’d really love to talk with them, or maybe meet them, dine together and talk for hours… That would be incredibly good for us all: they’d know that we truly respect them (though we "steal" their work) and we’d know them by person and how they feel about us…
That’d be so good 😀
Can someone repost a working link?
Thanks in advance.
Can someone repost a working link?
Thanks in advance.
Working link here (Thread 86826) this one is wav though
any chance a guy can get a link?
thanks in advance
cheers
Thanks!
30.01.: Thank you.
edit: link received, thank you for very much
I used to have a copy of the low-quality tracks that were released but lost them some time ago. It would be great to hear them again, and in lossless.
Thank you in advance.
I will appreciate this link.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6c7063mf192f6lr/TheRejectionofAchilles.zip