None of these scores is expanded in any way, they�re just ‘remastered’.
This is not the MP3 Version I shared before -> Thread 176437
No, I did it again because I wasn�t very happy with the version shared above. Am I happy now? No, I�m not. But for the time being, this is the best I can do. I tried to alleviate the numerous defects so that they aren�t as audible as before. Initially I wanted to copy the sound of the LOTR editions; I failed. Instead I settled with the goal of making all three Hobbit-scores sound the same. I did not succeed but at least the differences aren�t as glaring.
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OneSoundToRuleThemAll
The same that is valid for ‘An Unexpected Journey’ also applies for ‘Desolation of Smaug’: I did it again because my old version wasn�t as good as it could have been. In hindsight, this is the best sounding of all three scores (the expression "best" stretches it a bit too far IMO). While the dynamic compression produces awful sounding artifacts, the overall EQ is consistent from track to track. Furthermore, it�s the score I myself like the most.
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This one was clearly the worst. Muffled sound, droning bass, haphazard editing. Many tracks combine smaller pieces (just like on the two scores above) but in this case it�s readily audible where one piece ends and another starts. I tried to hide this as best as possible. Then, some parts of some tracks were missing a lot of treble (literally: they had none). At first I thought that this "muffle" effect was intentional but after encountering it every once in a while over the course of the whole score, I realized that it was simply a recording/mixing/mastering error. So I tried to repair it. I wasn�t fully successful but at least the difference in sound won�t jump into your face anymore.
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Why 24/48? Because 48 kHz is the quasi-native samplerate for PC based audio (to which I count portable players and smartphones) and because those scores need to be played from beginning to end. Therefore, you cannot burn them to CD. Well, of course you can, but that would involve work and I know that many people around here don�t know how to do things like resampling and bit-depth decreasing. Anyway, these 48 kHz are of course upsampled from the 24/44,1 material one can buy at HDTracks. These three releases are derived from my 24/96 ‘masterfiles’, releasing them in that format would be pointless though.
If you don�t like it, write a comment and say why not 🙂
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EDIT: I completley forgot… I wouldn�t have shared the scores like this without amh1219!
He released all three standard editions in just one thread -> Thread 183273
I wonder why the hell they botched the mastering of these scores so badly. It’s a shame, because I really like the scores themselves (particularly Smaug).
What the fuck is wrong with you? Jesus Christ.
Thank you for Desolation, it’s the only one I ‘really’ enjoy..
Thanks! can we get the 24 / 96 version on MEGA?
Seriously dude? 24/48 isn’t enough for you?
Why don’t you just convert it to 96 kHz and upload to MEGA for the rest of us? I’d appreciate that.
There just is no stopping you? *shakes head*
Thanks a lot for this sonic 🙂
Man I would LOVE to fight you.
I wonder why the hell they botched the mastering of these scores so badly. It’s a shame, because I really like the scores themselves (particularly Smaug).
For one, the engineer hired for all Hobbit scores (-> Abbey Road – Engineer – Peter Cobbin (http://www.abbeyroad.com/Engineers/Engineer/29/Peter-Cobbin)) believes in a unique mixture of ancient analogue & digital gear. Like for example mics that are 50 years old and tube equipped. That in itself might not be a bad thing, but who knows what other "fancy" audiophile stuff he uses? Secondly, all scores were mastered (-> Abbey Road – Engineer – Simon Gibson (http://www.abbeyroad.com/Engineers/Engineer/14/Simon-Gibson)) to appeal to every housewife (I know, it�s derogatory – and meant to). Which means, that they were dynamically compressed, apparently using old-style analogue compressors (continuing the style of ancient analogue technique used during recording).
Still, not every "housewife" liked the sound, complaining about the differences between loud and soft stuff -> Soundtrack Review: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies Original Motion Picture Soundtrack, Special Edition | SciFi Mafia (http://scifimafia.com/2014/12/soundtrack-review-the-hobbit-the-battle-of-the-five-armies-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-special-edition/)
… when in fact there are not many differences left.
The frequency response of this music? Personal preference mixed with demands by the bosses/producer/composer/director/anyone.
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Thanks! can we get the 24 / 96 version on MEGA?
I�m sorry… but… FUCK YOU!
Phew, that needed to be said, sorry for my language.
Seriously, HDlossless: no, they won�t ever be uploaded. It took me two days to upload this, it�s enough. Besides, your tablet cannot play it anyway 😉
’nuff said, thank you!
Two questions: So, basically, they hear clearer, better, less "synthy" and a more similar to how LOTR ones sound? And, which one’s the best site to download them? Lot of mirrors, some of the sites I haven’t even heard of before 😀
Never mind about the sites, they are all cool, very cool. What’s with the 24/96 version thing? Is it even better to a normal human ear?
Oooooh… all very nice, but don�t forget good tools. If I�d work by my ears alone, everything I do would be a lot worse than it is. I need tools that show me what I do / need to do. You see, I don�t trust my ears fully, I need my eyes, experience and my brain too 😉
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Woah.
’nuff said, thank you!
Two questions: So, basically, they hear clearer, better, less "synthy" and a more similar to how LOTR ones sound? And, which one’s the best site to download them? Lot of mirrors, some of the sites I haven’t even heard of before 😀
Never mind about the sites, they are all cool, very cool. What’s with the 24/96 version thing? Is it even better to a normal human ear?
"Synthy"?? And I thought I already had the most terrible thoughts about the original versions; this one is new^^
It is more similar to the LOTR sound… but not too much, I think. It can never sound like LOTR… which is very sad.
The best sites? I guess the ones that are the fastest. I always use gamefront to test my downloads. And I never download with a browser, I use JDownloader. That way you can avoid the misleading "Download"-buttons inconveniently placed on all these sites.
-> JDownloader.org – Official Homepage (http://jdownloader.org/download/offline)
Oh, and the 24/96 are just what I keep on my HDD in case I need to change small things after I finalized it. I work with 32/192 files, not because I keep several bats at home (those are able to hear ultrasonic frequencies) but because I need the highest quality should I want to do some heavy processing. And I certainly did some heavy processing here!
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"Synthy"?? And I thought I already had the most terrible thoughts about the original versions; this one is new^^
It is more similar to the LOTR sound… but not too much, I think. It can never sound like LOTR… which is very sad.
The best sites? I guess the ones that are the fastest. I always use gamefront to test my downloads. And I never download with a browser, I use JDownloader. That way you can avoid the misleading "Download"-buttons inconveniently placed on all these sites.
-> JDownloader.org – Official Homepage (http://jdownloader.org/download/offline)
Oh, and the 24/96 are just what I keep on my HDD in case I need to change small things after I finalized it. I work with 32/192 files, not because I keep several bats at home (those are able to hear ultrasonic frequencies) but because I need the highest quality should I want to do some heavy processing. And I certainly did some heavy processing here!
Well, AUJ always sounded snythy to me sometimes, despite me enjoying them a lot. I use JD too, love it! Almost download the last one. I can’t imagine why would someone want to listen to the 24/96, fof a process like this, I can imagine why they are important, but to listen, not really.
Unless your bat pet blackmails you for them. 😀
Ah, thank you, dear. Cookie?
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Thanks for sharing your work again. I know how you feel about not being happy but content with what you fixed up but it’s not exactly how you truly wanted it to be. BTW, where the hell have you been? I feel like you disappeared for a while. Still working on that summer reno you wrote a few times about?
Indeed I am. One carpet still needs to be laid. Decoration not up to snuff yet. But living inside the appartement is possible 😀
But I weren�t really gone. I did share ‘Maleficent’ two months ago and I commented several posts 🙂
For one, the engineer hired for all Hobbit scores (-> Abbey Road – Engineer – Peter Cobbin (http://www.abbeyroad.com/Engineers/Engineer/29/Peter-Cobbin)) believes in a unique mixture of ancient analogue & digital gear. Like for example mics that are 50 years old and tube equipped. That in itself might not be a bad thing, but who knows what other "fancy" audiophile stuff he uses? Secondly, all scores were mastered (-> Abbey Road – Engineer – Simon Gibson (http://www.abbeyroad.com/Engineers/Engineer/14/Simon-Gibson)) to appeal to every housewife (I know, it�s derogatory – and meant to). Which means, that they were dynamically compressed, apparently using old-style analogue compressors (continuing the style of ancient analogue technique used during recording).
Still, not every "housewife" liked the sound, complaining about the differences between loud and soft stuff -> Soundtrack Review: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies Original Motion Picture Soundtrack, Special Edition | SciFi Mafia (http://scifimafia.com/2014/12/soundtrack-review-the-hobbit-the-battle-of-the-five-armies-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-special-edition/)
… when in fact there are not many differences left.
The frequency response of this music? Personal preference mixed with demands by the bosses/producer/composer/director/anyone.
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I�m sorry… but… FUCK YOU!
Phew, that needed to be said, sorry for my language.
Seriously, HDlossless: no, they won�t ever be uploaded. It took me two days to upload this, it�s enough. Besides, your tablet cannot play it anyway 😉
Peter Cobbin is the same guy who ruined Desplat’s Deathly Hallows Part 2 with the lifeless recording, fake sounding orchestra (the one of HP7 was much more organic) missing bass (Even Desplat’s synth pulse is nowhere to be heard) and drowned choir. Same with Shawn Murphy with JNH (Mockingjay sounds awful compared with the wonderful mix in Catching Fire), he’s the kind of recording artist who is kind of hit and miss with certain scores and composers.
Because it sucks.
Ty ty for the hard work and using upgraded versions.
By the way are you still working on The Last Samurai and Spider-Man 3?
DH Pt II was engineered by Cobbin? That explains a lot. Well, he succeeded in at least one thing: making Abbey Road sound different than Abbey Road^^
But Shawn Murphy sounds strange only with JNH. IMO, Mockingjay was as awful as Catching Fire (or Maleficent for that matter). Not dynamic compression, no, dynamics were wonderful. I have lots of problems instead with general balance, placement of instruments, the flatness. For a few years now, the combination of Shawn Murphy & JNH yields disturbing sonic results. Yet Mr. Murphy continues to record and mix very, very well with John Williams. So I guess it�s JNH who�s responsible for the sonic end result.
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Thanks a lot!
By the way are you still working on The Last Samurai and Spider-Man 3?
Haven�t started work on Spidey yet. But Samurai is slowly (very slowly) progressing.
Very true… eyes, experience, brain. And a feeling…
But Shawn Murphy sounds strange only with JNH. IMO, Mockingjay was as awful as Catching Fire (or Maleficent for that matter). Not dynamic compression, no, dynamics were wonderful. I have lots of problems instead with general balance, placement of instruments, the flatness. For a few years now, the combination of Shawn Murphy & JNH yields disturbing sonic results. Yet Mr. Murphy continues to record and mix very, very well with John Williams. So I guess it�s JNH who�s responsible for the sonic end result.
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Haven�t started work on Spidey yet. But Samurai is slowly (very slowly) progressing.
Yeah, compare how well the HTTYD scores are mixed with the abysmal mixes of JNH’s latest output. No wonder people hate it, the complex writing can’t be brought to life and it sounds lifeless and boring. I Am Legend and Nightcrawler were mixed by other engineers and it sounds so different.
The HTTYD scores are mixed and engineered by Murphy? I admit, I have never heard them. Tried the first OST once and was appalled. Supposedly, the sessions sound different yet I�ve never listened to them. I�ve never heard ‘I Am Legend’ either but I can confirm that ‘Nightcrawler’ sounds good. But the music for the Hunger Games franchise cannot be improved by changing the sound. JNH went the route of the last Goldsmith scores: all style but no substance. The music really is quite bland. Shawn Murphy mixes JNH scores at JNH’s studio, perhaps with the composer in attendance. Which either means: JNH has some problems with his ears or his monitoring gear. At least in my mind.
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Fantastic work, thank you so much ! oh god if only you could have been a huge fan of the Nolan’s batman trilogy :facepalm: 😀
There may be some point in the near future when a miracle might happen. But I�m not a religious believer so I highly doubt it. And not even facepalming Jean-Luc will help 😉
EDIT: I completley forgot… I wouldn�t have shared the scores like this without amh1219!
He released all three standard editions in just one thread -> Thread 183273[/center]
It was nothing, really! 😉 But while we’re on the subject, is there any chance you could remaster "Old Friends" and "Roast Mutton" from the standard edition of AUJ? I don’t know of a high-res source for them, I’ve just found that I prefer one section in each of these two tracks to their special edition counterparts — namely the Shire theme in the former and Plan 9’s Misty Mountains theme in the latter.
The HTTYD scores are mixed and engineered by Murphy? I admit, I have never heard them. Tried the first OST once and was appalled. Supposedly, the sessions sound different yet I�ve never listened to them.
You really must get around to fixing that mate! Though I’d recommend getting sinus’ "night fury" edition or one of the FYC promos instead of the "recording sessions." The sequel score is excellent as well.
One thing I have to ask, and forgive me to sound stupid, but let me explain:
I’ve listened to BoftA on my media player (the Cowon as you might or might not remember), which actually plays the original files without problems. There’s only one thing… the music sounds very ‘soft’. As in, there is a lot of dynamic range, but the loud parts aren’t truly loud. They tend to being just shy of reaching a satisfactory volume. Of course, this is not the mastering but the range of my player itself. There is a bit too much unused headroom left.
Therefore (and please don’t shoot me) I would like to ask you how one could go about boosting the volume just a slight nudge, without destroying the wonderful balance of dynamics at display here. I’m not talking about pushing the limit, just a nudge of 1 to 2db at most. I’ve got Adobe Audition, but I’ve never found a way to do this without destroying the balance. I don’t want compression; I just want to add 1 to 2db to the full range whilst keeping everything else intact, and without changing the timbre of the sound (I know simply using amplify actually degrades the quality of the material a bit).
I know this is strange to ask, but if you could help me out, that would be wonderful. Again, it’s not the mastering that’s the problem here. The mastering is absolutely stunning. It’s just that, on my player, and only on my player, the score as a whole could use a little nudge. Of course, if I’m wrong about this and the material can’t be boosted because that would cause clipping, feel free to call me an idiot.
Thanks again for this wonderful music in this wonderful quality. Keep up the great work!
PS. Amh1219 is right about HTTYD. You should really look into it sometime, if you feel like it.
I�m afraid I have to decline. Before I started, I confirmed that the standard edition of AUJ isn�t available in 24 bit. And I�ve worked with 16 bits (rips of my own CDs) before which didn�t sound that well. I have read about the additional music there but I�ve never listened to it nor have I used it.
You really must get around to fixing that mate! Though I’d recommend getting sinus’ "night fury" edition or one of the FYC promos instead of the "recording sessions." The sequel score is excellent as well.
I downloaded sinus’ version some time ago but haven�t listened to it yet… I think. I also downloaded the sequel score – though I might be wrong about that – but didn�t bother listening because of all the tracks used in the movie / not used in the movie / edited from the sessions / blabla. Frankly, the situation with the sequel score felt a bit confusing to me.
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I’ve listened to BoftA on my media player (the Cowon as you might or might not remember), which actually plays the original files without problems. There’s only one thing… the music sounds very ‘soft’. As in, there is a lot of dynamic range, but the loud parts aren’t truly loud. They tend to being just shy of reaching a satisfactory volume. Of course, this is not the mastering but the range of my player itself. There is a bit too much unused headroom left.
Therefore (and please don’t shoot me) I would like to ask you how one could go about boosting the volume just a slight nudge, without destroying the wonderful balance of dynamics at display here. I’m not talking about pushing the limit, just a nudge of 1 to 2db at most. I’ve got Adobe Audition, but I’ve never found a way to do this without destroying the balance. I don’t want compression; I just want to add 1 to 2db to the full range whilst keeping everything else intact, and without changing the timbre of the sound (I know simply using amplify actually degrades the quality of the material a bit).
I know this is strange to ask, but if you could help me out, that would be wonderful. Again, it’s not the mastering that’s the problem here. The mastering is absolutely stunning. It’s just that, on my player, and only on my player, the score as a whole could use a little nudge. Of course, if I’m wrong about this and the material can’t be boosted because that would cause clipping, feel free to call me an idiot.
Let�s get this out of the way first thing: it cannot be done without clipping (some of) the material.
But you�re wrong about one thing; it is indeed the mastering. Though not mine. The OSTs have their differences between loud and soft parts of music reduced. Just compare pieces of similar orchestration from LOTR:TFOTR to, say, TH:TDOS and you�ll know what I mean. But their mastering engineers did not only that, they also used an analogue-styled compressor to even out transients, often with audible results ("pumping"). The loud parts aren�t truly loud because they in fact aren�t truly loud. My ‘remastering’ just made it clear as rain.
And I remember your Cowon and your Pioneer headphones. From what I�ve read about the Cowon, it should be able to power the pretty sensitive Pioneer with ease. But if you want more power, I suggest another player. Perhaps the FiiO X1 (-> FiiO-Love music,love life,love FiiO! (http://www.fiio.net/en/products/18)). It�s a HiRes player that has ample power for even the most demanding portable headphones. It lacks ‘Colour therapy’, games and whatnot of course so if you�re looking for features you won�t be happy with the X1 should you consider it. Or you could purchase an additional headphone amplifier that�ll boost the gain of your Cowon.
We certainly are^^ But yes, I think that this stuff is important. If people love their music so much, they should play it as best as possible (regarding sound, convenience and their budget). And I would certainly love to go to London for a brief vacation but that�s a bit too short notice. The last time I was in London, I bought the first CD edition of Fantasia and a cassette single of Nutbush City Limits – 90s Version (even I was a teenager). So it must have been… 24 years ago. About time I go there again.
I have one question:
AUJ let’s take track#1 "My dear Frodo"
1489 kBit/s 44100 Hz on my HD
1457 kBit/s 48000 Hz provided by You
both 24 bit You did improve the recording but I thought that higher frequency would go along with higher bit rate…
Could You explain it to me/us a little?
Thanks a lot
I have one question:
AUJ let’s take track#1 "My dear Frodo"
1489 kBit/s 44100 Hz on my HD
1457 kBit/s 48000 Hz provided by You
both 24 bit You did improve the recording but I thought that higher frequency would go along with higher bit rate…
Could You explain it to me/us a little?
Thanks a lot
I actually don�t know the precise reasons in this particular case. I can theorize because that�s how FLAC is supposed to work: if it is less complex, it can be compressed better. So my remaster must be less complex and easier for FLAC to compress. Why that is exactly? I have no idea, I don�t know how to program a codec.
No worries, I just had to ask!
I downloaded sinus’ version some time ago but haven�t listened to it yet… I think. I also downloaded the sequel score – though I might be wrong about that – but didn�t bother listening because of all the tracks used in the movie / not used in the movie / edited from the sessions / blabla. Frankly, the situation with the sequel score felt a bit confusing to me.
The situation with the sequel score is that the the OST and FYC promo both have snippets of unique material. Unfortunately, the supposed lossless FYC rip that has been circulating is nothing more than a fan edit that uses tracks from the lossy web rip to fill in the gaps between the commercially available tracks. Hold tight though! We should have a legitimate lossless rip of the promo disc within the next week or two. 😉
Some programs incorporate the tag file data into their calculations. This causes the presented bit-rate to be inaccurate. It can actually get really bad if you have a five second jingle with huge art embedded into it, resulting in sometimes stupid high numbers that 16/44.1 or other respective combination of those could. So instead of strictly looking at the audio stream in the file to determine these numbers the program just looks at the entire file’s size and length and tosses out a number.
Regards.
Regards.
I thought about that too, especially about embedded cover files. But still deem it impossible: I just had a look at the files for AUJ. Every file contains a cover file of roughly 7 mb. Choosing two examples (The White Council, Warg-Scouts), I stripped the original FLAC files (kindly shared by you; thanks again) of all tags including covers, decoded it to WAV and re-encoded it with foobar to FLAC again.
Before: 1383 kBit/s
After: 1381 kBit/s
foobar is so clever and reports the actual datarate of the compressed PCM datastream. The tiny bitrate differences are explained by the fact that I used the newest FLAC (1.3.1) to encode it anew, it�s slightly more efficient than FLAC 1.2.1 which was used to encode the HDTracks original.
For comparison: my own, "remastered" version shows a datarate of 1364 kBit/s for both tracks which really is slightly surprising. On the other hand, uncompressed 24/44,1 material has a datarate of 2116 kBit/s, uncompressed 24/48 a datarate of 2304 kBit/s… which isn�t that much more.
Still, the technical aspects of lossless audio compression are a mystery to me (whereas I understand lossy compression well enough). But one can read all about lossless FLAC compression here: https://xiph.org/flac/documentation_format_overview.html
I downloaded sinus’ version some time ago but haven�t listened to it yet… I think. I also downloaded the sequel score – though I might be wrong about that – but didn�t bother listening because of all the tracks used in the movie / not used in the movie / edited from the sessions / blabla. Frankly, the situation with the sequel score felt a bit confusing to me.
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Let�s get this out of the way first thing: it cannot be done without clipping (some of) the material.
But you�re wrong about one thing; it is indeed the mastering. Though not mine. The OSTs have their differences between loud and soft parts of music reduced. Just compare pieces of similar orchestration from LOTR:TFOTR to, say, TH:TDOS and you�ll know what I mean. But their mastering engineers did not only that, they also used an analogue-styled compressor to even out transients, often with audible results ("pumping"). The loud parts aren�t truly loud because they in fact aren�t truly loud. My ‘remastering’ just made it clear as rain.
And I remember your Cowon and your Pioneer headphones. From what I�ve read about the Cowon, it should be able to power the pretty sensitive Pioneer with ease. But if you want more power, I suggest another player. Perhaps the FiiO X1 (-> FiiO-Love music,love life,love FiiO! (http://www.fiio.net/en/products/18)). It�s a HiRes player that has ample power for even the most demanding portable headphones. It lacks ‘Colour therapy’, games and whatnot of course so if you�re looking for features you won�t be happy with the X1 should you consider it. Or you could purchase an additional headphone amplifier that�ll boost the gain of your Cowon.
Ah, that explains a lot! So they actually hold back on the dynamics to increase the overal volume, if I’m correct? That explains why, when I expect the drums to really hit home, and the choir to really cut right through the orchestra, it doesn’t happen. In that regard, your mastering is a lot better than the original, because I at least get a sense of dynamics, whereas in the OST it’s just compressed to hell and back. And of course you can’t completely undo compression once it has done it’s damage.
So, the only hope is for there to be sessions, I guess?
Mind you, I love your mastering. And you’re right, the Cowon drives the Pioneers with ease. So there’s no need for another player. It funny you mention the color therapy stuff… I completely forgot about it. Nah, I don’t care for fluff on my portable player. I want it to work with audio, real audio, uncompressed and all that. The rest is just stuff that I never use and in fact would not even want to pay for. It’s a shame most portable players are designed exactly the other way around.
Edit: I just looked at the Fiio. Damn, that thing is awesome. I’ll keep it on my radar for when this player dies.
Before: 1383 kBit/s
After: 1381 kBit/s
foobar is so clever and reports the actual datarate of the compressed PCM datastream. The tiny bitrate differences are explained by the fact that I used the newest FLAC (1.3.1) to encode it anew, it�s slightly more efficient than FLAC 1.2.1 which was used to encode the HDTracks original.
For comparison: my own, "remastered" version shows a datarate of 1364 kBit/s for both tracks which really is slightly surprising. On the other hand, uncompressed 24/44,1 material has a datarate of 2116 kBit/s, uncompressed 24/48 a datarate of 2304 kBit/s… which isn�t that much more.
foobar is not one of those programs affected by this problem. Winamp is. I made a test file. It’s a seven second 16/44.1 track from the "GBA Pok�mon FireRed & LeafGreen Music Super Complete" album in which I embedded a 5670×3240 (6K) .PNG wallpaper and made a screenshot of what Windows states is the Bitrate of this file (with the newest version of the K-Lite MEGA pack): 
As you can see "39586kbps" is not an accurate number in the least.
Also, not all programs strip tag data correctly. Even if you remove all the tags the file size will remain the same, even when transcoding to WAV and back. With such programs I suggest trying other lossless codecs and converting back to FLAC, I’ve had that resolve the issue before.
Regards.
Still, the technical aspects of lossless audio compression are a mystery to me (whereas I understand lossy compression well enough). But one can read all about lossless FLAC compression here: https://xiph.org/flac/documentation_format_overview.html[/QUOTE]
But who is still using Winamp? 😉
Also, not all programs strip tag data correctly. Even if you remove all the tags the file size will remain the same, even when transcoding to WAV and back. With such programs I suggest trying other lossless codecs and converting back to FLAC, I’ve had that resolve the issue before.
Correct. DBPowerAmp cannot do it, MP3Tag neither. They all keep files at the same size which is the reason why I re-encoded it to FLAC to find out about the bitrate.
🙂
[meekly raises hand]
It does what I need, I’m familiar with it, and I’m fond of it.
I respect foobar for what it does. But I’ve yet to grow fond of it.
It does what I need, I’m familiar with it, and I’m fond of it.
I respect foobar for what it does. But I’ve yet to grow fond of it.
My question was not entirely serious^^
But I can relate to the fondness, I was crushed when AOL announced that they would shut down Winamp’s division. Even though I haven�t used that program myself. After all, it has done a lot for PC based audio.
PS: Thanks for this awesome upload.
I can’t wait to listen it. Thank you very much for the hard work again!
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/youre_awesome_jensen_ackles.gif
Thank you so much for sharing it, my friend!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂
the choral part in ‘Guardians of the Three’ sounds so much better now!
Your favourite, eh?^^
I understand; it�s mine, too.
I understand; it�s mine, too.
Do you know where I can hear more of this part of the Beyond the Forest cue, or is it exclusive to this track?
It starts at 1:01
It starts at 1:01
Huh? But it�s the love theme for Tauriel / Kili, it�s everywhere, even in the third Hobbit score. Listen to "Feast of Starlight" on the second 🙂
I love Tauriel. I love all of Tauriel’s music.
One of the best new inventions in an adaptation.
I love Tauriel. I love all of Tauriel’s music.
One of the best new inventions in an adaptation.
So very true.
Thanks, but I was looking for the cue ‘Kingsfoil’. It’s beautiful.
Another nice Elven theme.
Not as great as Tauriel, but still nice.
Tauriel, Arwen… they all have great themes.
Only one does not approve:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc261/fireboy129/GIFs/Witch-KingSourPatch.gif
I think I too prefer The Desolation of Smaug.
Thanks once more for the score Sonic.
Regards.
P.S: English isn’t my first language, so I apologise if someone has difficulties understanding me.
P.S: English isn’t my first language, so I apologise if someone has difficulties understanding me.
Your encoder does something wrong when converting material that either has 24 bits or 48 kHz. Use another software, for example foobar2000, that one can deal with anything. And don�t worry about your English, you�re very easy to understand.
foobar2000 is always good. But don�t be appalled by its looks, it�s ugly as hell yet extremely functional.
For encoding AAC you�ll need the Free Encoder Pack: foobar2000: Free Encoder Pack (http://www.foobar2000.org/encoderpack)
For encoding mp3 you�ll also need LAME: RareWares (http://www.rarewares.org/mp3-lame-bundle.php)
There are skins available. Search for something like ‘foobar skins’… Foobar can look great
http://stashbox.org/512036/109410202856-DarkOne-v1.5-by-~tedgo-on-deviantART-Opera.png
Holy crap! I use a much simpler skin… this one is… well, a whole media player deluxe or something^^
You can find it here BTW: DarkOne v4 by tedgo on DeviantArt (http://tedgo.deviantart.com/art/DarkOne-v4-360862076)
I use this – it�s old but functional: http://fanco86.deviantart.com/art/Foo-Alduin-fixed-108040720
I should look for some. Spice up my life.
I wonder if there’s a J.A.R.V.I.S./IronMan theme or something flashy.
Old news but relevant to TDoS.
During the premiere, I went with a friend to go see the movie and there was a group of cos-players dressed up mostly as elves and a hobbit.
I was nerding out so much. Didn’t have a cell phone to take pictures, sadly.
There was even a Tauriel cosplayer!
Frick was I ever nerding out.
Nothing happened during the TBotFA though. :/
During the premiere, I went with a friend to go see the movie and there was a group of cos-players dressed up mostly as elves and a hobbit.
I was nerding out so much. Didn’t have a cell phone to take pictures, sadly.
There was even a Tauriel cosplayer!
Frick was I ever nerding out.
Nothing happened during the TBotFA though. :/
I went to the midnight premier of The Avengers back in 2012. I was a little confused when someone came in dressed as Batman.
That’s the only time I’ve ever seen cosplayers in their natural habitat.
o_O Indeed confusing!
Can’t wait for the bluray to TBotFA to come out.
And then another 8 months for the Extended Edition to come out.
During the premiere, I went with a friend to go see the movie and there was a group of cos-players dressed up mostly as elves and a hobbit.
I was nerding out so much. Didn’t have a cell phone to take pictures, sadly.
There was even a Tauriel cosplayer!
Frick was I ever nerding out.
Nothing happened during the TBotFA though. :/
I don�t fancy remembering seeing Doctor Who’s 50th anniversary in a local cinema. A lot of people in the audience seemed to confirm every smelly clich� one can have about basement dwellers 😀
And there was a girl dressed as the 11th Doctor, complete with a Fez – that was awkward… but fun^^
Never a modest person, for Star Trek movie premieres I always wanted to wear the TNG dress uniform as I had (and still have) the figure to wear it and to avoid the vapid look of the standard uniforms.
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o_O Indeed confusing!
Can’t wait for the bluray to TBotFA to come out.
And then another 8 months for the Extended Edition to come out.
Yup, it�s not clever to buy the normal Edition. Even Peter Jackson says so during the commentary for TDoS. I made the error once with the first Hobbit – anyone interested in a non-extended, flawless Bluray?^^
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I went to the midnight premier of The Avengers back in 2012. I was a little confused when someone came in dressed as Batman.
He was off a whole universe, wasn�t he?
Only by a few billion parsecs. 😀
http://stashbox.org/512036/109410202856-DarkOne-v1.5-by-~tedgo-on-deviantART-Opera.png
Damn that looks even better than the DarkOne v4.0 I used to use. Unfortunately I had to switch to standard foobar2000 lay-out due to my notebook screen being 3K and external display 4K. Are there any lay-outs like that which support high-res displays? I could not find any myself.
During the premiere, I went with a friend to go see the movie and there was a group of cos-players dressed up mostly as elves and a hobbit.
If only they did such things here, then maybe I could justify going to the theaters with the appalling sound they provide. I do remember they did an Avatar: The Last Airbender documentary in a cinema near where I live and it was featured on TV, but of course being that it was aimed at kids they only featured the dubbed version… luckily they don’t do that for other movies.
Regards.
I hate to ask but can someone re-up this on Mega that way there’s only 1 archive per score?
i recommend the files.fm links. very good download speed, no waiting and multiple downloads at once allowed. took me about 30 minutes for all 3 releases 🙂
I second that!
Due to mega’s space limitations they might not be online a lot of weeks, so try to grab it and help other users if the files are offline.
Hobbit I:
https://mega.nz/#!dVVkgbyA!DKmfzyx2pmQhEDaSdCvM0MToVAByR0wbCppl1wpbQGo
Hobbit II:
https://mega.nz/#!ZUknBYYJ!YoL827ggcBasPMJFOuFz630npkcQO7B39jPGVo6x0v0
Hobbit III:
https://mega.nz/#!JRd3HBoQ!Kbl4H-FM3-XJuEfDz8Twi2osaAFs544t7uQY0zZKIfQ
The passwords are the original ones.
Due to mega’s space limitations they might not be online a lot of weeks, so try to grab it and help other users if the files are offline.
Wow! That is so nice of you. I can only imagine the time it took to upload them.
You now well since you uploaded it first hahahaha I’m just trying to be helpful 🙂
Due to mega’s space limitations they might not be online a lot of weeks, so try to grab it and help other users if the files are offline.
The passwords are the original ones.
Thank you very much for the re-up Minnasan 😀
Also, thank you Sonic 😀
You can download tools such as Freemake Audio Converter (amongst many others) that can easily convert FLAC to 320kbps mp3 files. If this doens’t work for some reason I will see if i can re-upload a 320 mp3 version.
Mp3 in 320 kBit/s is more than good enough. For space reasons you might try -V0, those are roughly 245 kBit/s but they�re variable, meaning it will cater the bitrate to actual musical content. Do you use foobar2000? That one is very good as a converter, too.
Thank you, I will try this. 🙂 I will post here if I am unsuccessful.
Mp3 in 320 kBit/s is more than good enough. For space reasons you might try -V0, those are roughly 245 kBit/s but they�re variable, meaning it will cater the bitrate to actual musical content. Do you use foobar2000? That one is very good as a converter, too.
I will download your release, and see if I can convert it. If I have trouble, I’ll post here. I’m a total noob in this area, but hopefully the programs are easy enough to use. Thanks for your efforts btw. 🙂
And of course thanks to SonicAdventure for his efforts to remaster them in the first place!
As requested here are the 3 Hobbit remastered scores. All credits go to SonicAdventure for his amazing work.
Due to mega’s space limitations they might not be online a lot of weeks, so try to grab it and help other users if the files are offline.
Due to mega’s space limitations they might not be online a lot of weeks, so try to grab it and help other users if the files are offline.
Hobbit I:
https://mega.nz/#!dVVkgbyA!DKmfzyx2pmQhEDaSdCvM0MToVAByR0wbCppl1wpbQGo
Hobbit II:
https://mega.nz/#!ZUknBYYJ!YoL827ggcBasPMJFOuFz630npkcQO7B39jPGVo6x0v0
Hobbit III:
https://mega.nz/#!JRd3HBoQ!Kbl4H-FM3-XJuEfDz8Twi2osaAFs544t7uQY0zZKIfQ
The passwords are the original ones.
Super excited to hear this soundtrack as it should be heard, any chance of a reup?
https://www.adrive.com/public/zmARV8/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20I%20-%20An%20Unexpected%20Journey.rar
The Hobbit II
https://www.adrive.com/public/txeSCh/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20II%20-%20The%20Desolation%20Of%20Smaug.rar
The Hobbit III
https://www.adrive.com/public/qkM7mP/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20III%20-%20The%20Battle%20of%20the%20Five%20Armies.rar
https://www.adrive.com/public/zmARV8/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20I%20-%20An%20Unexpected%20Journey.rar
The Hobbit II
https://www.adrive.com/public/txeSCh/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20II%20-%20The%20Desolation%20Of%20Smaug.rar
The Hobbit III
https://www.adrive.com/public/qkM7mP/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20III%20-%20The%20Battle%20of%20the%20Five%20Armies.rar
Gorgeous! Thank you 🙂
https://www.adrive.com/public/zmARV8/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20I%20-%20An%20Unexpected%20Journey.rar
The Hobbit II
https://www.adrive.com/public/txeSCh/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20II%20-%20The%20Desolation%20Of%20Smaug.rar
The Hobbit III
https://www.adrive.com/public/qkM7mP/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20III%20-%20The%20Battle%20of%20the%20Five%20Armies.rar
Wow! Thank you sooooo much, @tri2061990! :):):)
https://www.adrive.com/public/zmARV8/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20I%20-%20An%20Unexpected%20Journey.rar
The Hobbit II
https://www.adrive.com/public/txeSCh/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20II%20-%20The%20Desolation%20Of%20Smaug.rar
The Hobbit III
https://www.adrive.com/public/qkM7mP/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20III%20-%20The%20Battle%20of%20the%20Five%20Armies.rar
much thanks!
Thanks @tri2061990!
https://www.adrive.com/public/zmARV8/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20I%20-%20An%20Unexpected%20Journey.rar
The Hobbit II
https://www.adrive.com/public/txeSCh/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20II%20-%20The%20Desolation%20Of%20Smaug.rar
The Hobbit III
https://www.adrive.com/public/qkM7mP/Howard%20Shore%20-%20The%20Hobbit%20III%20-%20The%20Battle%20of%20the%20Five%20Armies.rar
Thanks, still working!
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