Thanks as always. š
:erm:
Does anyone know why the cue āThe Game Callsā (or something like this, performed by percussions only) is not included here? Isnāt this one the complete version?
Thanks again
Does anyone know why the cue āThe Game Callsā (or something like this, performed by percussions only) is not included here? Isnāt this one the complete version?
Thanks again
Thatās because when I originally made the DTS CD version, I didnāt include that percussion because it doesnāt even sound like it was part of the score, but merely a sound effect / source music and it just stuck out a bit too much when listening to the score. I typically donāt include source music with these customized versions of the scores I do, which is why I even faded out the entire wailing vocalized ending to the end credit cue along with the āMonkey Mayhemā opening to it as well. Itās something that (to me) ruined the nicer sense of resolution to what was a beautiful end credit music. Thankfully the album is available with it.
I totally disagree with you. Also, those fades out/crossfades/cuts are exactly the reason why I definitely stopped purchasing original music. I wonāt buy incomplete scores just because the labels like such ugly edits. Too bad.
In my opinion those percussions ARE part of the score; especially because they comment an important part of the movie. Otherwise I would not call myself āFILM-music fanā. š
Oh I know you do.
I remember you from the Intrada messageboard saying the same thing over and over about how disappointed you were with many of their releases because they werenāt (as Amanda correctly pointed out) butchered to sound like film edits or didnāt include 5 seconds of a sound effect therefore making the album incomplete.
I was one of the people you argued a bit with on this very subject.
I prefer this CUSTOM version I made to the OST.
You do not, but the OST is widely available. I even used it to make this thing.
To each their own.
Donāt like, then donāt buyā¦.or in this case donāt download or simply delete.
Thatās one of the precious few beauties of today, in that we can make things to our own liking with a few free pieces of software.
Different taste, sure. But, coming back on topic, if you donļæ½t care listening to those percussions, I would not call you an HARD film score fan.
By the way, how can you people call that cue ļæ½source musicļæ½? Those great jungle percussions are played several times into the movie; and the score wouldnļæ½t be so good without.
ā¦we can make things to our own liking with a few free pieces of software.Any good software for the music missing?
So, because you would rather have an album that is exactly as heard in film, but is "not so good" rather than a score as written by a favorite composer that is a terrific listen. Your choice. But it does not make you a bigger or better fan than me. It is a matter of personal taste. The drums in this score are certainly more like source music and not score. ISO scores, being what they are, include all source music (usually) as well as score. I just personally do not see them as such. The only way for you to obtain that would be to take those tracks from the available ISO score.
The opportunity, as in Aliens to hear both the unused original composition and the final film version is eye opening. The reason film edits are not so good, as you say, and choppy is that the music is not intended to flow. It needs only to fit certain beats of certain scenes. It can be sped up, slowed down, looped, chopped into pieces. Transitions can be non-existent. Fx will hide all of that anyway. So, listening to Deluxe Aliens, there is far more depth to the score. A slower and creepier build up to the finale. Other films suffer this as well. I do not personally feel that if a film edit is different than an original piece that the music is "missing". It is there, most certainly. Just not in the way you prefer. Keep in mind the labels are in the business of making the score into listenable albums. A "not so good" album is not going to be good business, and a "complete" set like I mentioned above would be financially out of reach. A 5 or 6 disc set for every movie. Wonāt happen. So a lot of companies label them Complete, but you will notice a lot of them merely call it expanded, which is my preference. Then you can bypass the whole messā¦:)
Does anyone know why the cue āThe Game Callsā (or something like this, performed by percussions only) is not included here? Isnāt this one the complete version?
Thanks again
I actually do not find that on the iso score either? track number?
The Prologue / Main Title has a louder piano over the ethnic flute, some of the near-silent string passages are a bit louder and easier to hear, I added all the short (as in between 15 to 40 seconds) cues together or to longer cues and did a few re-arranging of pieces in those cues for a better musical flow. It isnāt perfect but itās not bad a listen.
Excuses, excuses, excuses. If an entire score fits into one disc, the labels *still* do their nasty mutilations because THEY LIKE! They say so! They say they are āartistsā. Look at PREDATOR: introda butchered the first edition. Then they said āall minor edits undownā but the second edition (MAF) is still mutilated. too bad!!! Come on, you are defending the indefensible.
Bigger or better fan: āfanā means āenthusiastā. More interest in more particulars makes the fan BIGGER. š
The cue we are talking about is āfinding the gameā, one of the first.
You say the albums butcher because it is not like the movie. I say the movie butchers because that was not how it was written and recorded. Itās a personal preference. One cannot be more right than the other.
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runs 71 minutes..
Noooo. I say butchered because butchered it is. The labels cut/chop up/smash. Thatās exactly what they do! You know they do, donāt you?
I will serach that ājungle drumsā somewhere in the next hoursā¦
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Track 2 is Digging Up the Past. It runs 1:56 and is definitely score, not percussion.
But see thereās the problem. You want film edits. Film edits are the score, that is chopped cut and smashed. It is the original score that is correct as the score goes. Now, some score cues can be mere seconds long. I PERSONALLY prefer those to be in longer suites and cues. I PERSONALLY cannot stand an album of tiny cues, even if that is how the film goes. I prefer longer cues, shorter cues combined, and I prefer the score as the composer wrote it and intended it, not necessarily as it ends up in the film. MY preference. Not right or wrong, just how I like it.
back coverā¦:
(http://s668.photobucket.com/user/kevandsue/media/jumanjicompleteback.jpg.html)
When I took the DVDās isolated score track and made it into a DTS surround CD, I condensed that down to 29 cues because a few cues in there were songs used in the film.
I havenāt had the DVD the isolated score came from for a few years now, and I made my DTS version of it (used to make this custom along with the OST) way back in 2006 or so.
Iāll probably pick it up used somewhere just to have. There were three DVD releases of Jumanji but only the second one contained the isolated score track:
The original "flipper" DVD with fullscreen on one side, widescreen on the other, no extras
The "Collectorās Edition" with extras including the isolated score
The specially-packaged "Deluxe Edition" which had new extras but dropped the isolated score
Just like the releases of "Legends Of The Fall", which also had three DVD releases that included the isolated score only on the second release.
Blu-ray versions of both films donāt include the isolated score either.
Say what? You are not interested in that cueļæ½ just because someone (maybe GOD?) put it out from an iso file? Oh, please, be inspired by your taste and enthusiasm instead!
I uploaded the track here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkaBYgj-8a8&feature=youtu.be
*I* love it!
I uploaded the track here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkaBYgj-8a8&feature=youtu.be
*I* love it!
Noone "put it out" of the isolated score. That is clearly from the regular audio track of the DVD. Not what i would call a part of the score either, but source "music". The definition of what is a "complete" score has gone on forever and probably will continue after teatime as well. As long as people canāt unite under one definition, there will always be these discussions. Is "Youāve got mail" complete without all the songs? Is "Contact" complete without the trumpet that plays at the funeral? That is a PERSONAL choice, but they are not a part of the score š
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Anyone have a nice front cover for this?
Almost all covers for the score, like the one that matches that isolated score back cover are butt-ugly.
Thatās why I just used the OST cover.
I was making Bicentennial Man into a new surround project but put it on hold to work on other stuff, but Iāll be getting back to it soon.
When I made the surround version using the DVD I removed the songs in this score for obvious reasons. I did the same for Bicentennial Man as well.
I totally disagree with you. Also, those fades out/crossfades/cuts are exactly the reason why I definitely stopped purchasing original music. I wonāt buy incomplete scores just because the labels like such ugly edits. Too bad.
In my opinion those percussions ARE part of the score; especially because they comment an important part of the movie. Otherwise I would not call myself āFILM-music fanā. š
Hate to disappoint you then but what you linked to on Youtube is a custom mix of whatās really heard in the film. The drums play for about 25 seconds and then there are no drums for at least 25 seconds and then they start playing again for 40 seconds so technically this should be in two parts.
Also, there is a medley of different songs playing when the woman who lives with the kids is cleaning up the house. No complaints about that missing? š And the track "Do You Miss Mom and Dad?" starts/fades in and ends/fades out with those same drums in the film, but they are not present in any version of that track
But, that does not change the fact of only being able to get the proper cues through a rip. What is on the isolated track is what is there. Complaints should be directed to whoever made the call on what was or was not score..:/
Except one is butchered, the other is as-written. How is a piece of music written and presented intact butchered?
Answer? Itās not.
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Apparently it is not unheard of for an isolated score to NOT contain the film mix of a cue. JH says that this is the case in several parts of The Aliens isolated score where the mix is off, seemingly being the album versions instead. O.o
Yes, the ALIENS isolated score is a recreation of the "Final Theatrical" score, not the actual edited score as taken from the filmās original audio stems.
Zippyshare.com ā drums.rar (http://www1.zippyshare.com/v/4001797/file.html)
I did a hackānāslash job of removing speech and sfx, but i think it sounds better than whatās on the Youtube clip. And if you want it in itās correct chronological place, it comes right after "Do You Miss Mom and Dad?" listed on the cover here. Not sure what JHFan has named itā¦
**These arenāt the cues Iām looking for. Moving along** :awsm:
That cue is a tracked piece, taken from the ending of the cue "Jumanji". Itās when Alan and Sarah are returned to the past as kids after the game ends. That is why I didnāt include it as that āmom and dadā cue.
A piece of music written to accompany one scene, but is used in another scene sometimes in edited (shortened or looped) form, sometimes repeatedly throughout different scenes.
Zippyshare.com ā drums.rar (http://www1.zippyshare.com/v/4001797/file.html)
I did a hackānāslash job of removing speech and sfx, but i think it sounds better than whatās on the Youtube clipā¦.
THANK YOU!!! Oh, and *I* uploaded that youtube mix from the regular PAL DVD, yes. Sorry for the low quality.
However, great job thanks again! I just didnāt understand what exactly the source is.
Oh, and -sorry- just one ācomplaintā: both āDrums Pt I & IIā end too early: there is still sound where you cut the pieces. Do you hear? Could you please reupload the entire thing?
Thanks again a million
However, great job thanks again! I just didnāt understand what exactly the source is.
Oh, and -sorry- just one ācomplaintā: both āDrums Pt I & IIā end too early: there is still sound where you cut the pieces. Do you hear? Could you please reupload the entire thing?
Thanks again a million
I suggest you file that complaint somewhere else then because THAT is EXACTLY what is on the DVD. I did no cutting WHATSOEVER. Every drumbeat is there as it was on the DVD. End of discussion. There just is no way of satisfying you, is there?
A piece of music written to accompany one scene, but is used in another scene sometimes in edited (shortened or looped) form, sometimes repeatedly throughout different scenes.
Itās just that "Do You Miss Mom and Dad?" is playing in a different key than what is at the end of "Jumanji". And i always assumed that something Tracked meant that the same piece of music was used. Nevermind š IMHO itās beautiful enough to be a part of the score, but this is your edit.
EDIT: I would call those two "Variations on a Theme" if anything š
Do you see what I mean when I say that your āDrums part I and IIā end too early? Yes or no? I am totally unable to edit wav files, but, at least, I donāt cut out music.
When the instruments stop playing you can still hear the music, right? Sadly, for some reason, you people are not interested in hearing the complete tracks. š
When the instruments stop playing you can still hear the music, right? Sadly, for some reason, you people are not interested in hearing the complete tracks. š
Is there no end to you?
You see, my dear⦠itļæ½s called a ālearning processā. You can do it yourself if you know how. Itļæ½s not too difficult. On the other hand⦠editing is, by your definition, ābutcheringā. So you decide.
When the instruments stop playing you can still hear the music, right? Sadly, for some reason, you people are not interested in hearing the complete tracks. š
Will you give up? As i said ā THERE IS NOT ONE BEAT MISSING!!! What is in those two files is what was on the frigging DVD. The only editing i did was to try and remove speech and sfx and give you the frigging drums as was HEARD IN THE FILM. Not like what you put up on Youtube where you had chosen to do the same thing as JHFan did when he chose to merge some tracks and that you later told us was unacceptable.
There were two portions of drums, just as you hear in my two clips. I tried removing speech/sfx. I did a minor attempt at remastering. BUT I DID NOT REMOVE ONE SINGLE BEAT. The only thing that MIGHT be missing is a fraction of a second due to fadeout, but again ā NOT ONE SINGLE BEAT IS MISSING. If you say otherwise, you are imagining things. If you keep insisting that, i will surely put you on ignore and suggest you seek professional help for your problem.
Sadly, for some reason, you people are not interested in hearing the complete tracks. š
Sadly, for some reason, you are not interested in listeningā¦
First of all fuck you. And yes, please, put me into your putrid ignore list.
The only thing that MIGHT be missing is a fraction of a second due to fadeout,..
Bravo idiot, so you do understand if you want, donāt you? Thatās exactly what I am talking about.
And the time it took for you to put the final period to that post is the same amount of time of fadeout that you are missing.
⦠i should know better than to try and help trolls
Hey people, Iām talking just about music here, Iām not fucking your nasty mothers.
Bravo idiot, so you do understand if you want, donāt you? Thatās exactly what I am talking about.
āTrollā told by you people, is a compliment! I am SO happy of being a troll here, as much as I was happy of being a troll at the introia & fsm message boards. So thank you!
Hey people, Iām talking just about music here, Iām not fucking your nasty mothers.
5 years of this crap and you still havenāt grown up. Youāve only gotten worse in that time.
Pathetic.
EDIT: I would call those two "Variations on a Theme" if anything š
Iāve often found that so many tracked cues are subjected to editing just as often as them being left alone but stuck in other parts of a film.
Pathetic.What are you idiot writing about? In your opinion Iād grown up if now I liked the shit?
And the time it took for you to put the final period to that post is the same amount of time of fadeout that you are missing.
⦠i should know better than to try and help trolls
If you think heās a troll, then stop arguing with him. Donāt feed the animals, they can get very vicious. š
Hey people, Iām talking just about music here, Iām not fucking your nasty mothers.
Now, see, I was quite polite to you, and ready to entertain a DISCUSSION about the music. But now, now I get this attitude upon waking up? No thank you. Any merit in your point of view, you just threw out the window.
The Prologue / Main Title has a louder piano over the ethnic flute, some of the near-silent string passages are a bit louder and easier to hear, I added all the short (as in between 15 to 40 seconds) cues together or to longer cues and did a few re-arranging of pieces in those cues for a better musical flow. It isnāt perfect but itās not bad a listen.
I completely heard the difference with the piano being louder than the ethnic flute before I read this! I know Jumanji like the back of my hand and I commend you on your edition of the score.
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Do you see what I mean when I say that your ļæ½Drums part I and IIļæ½ end too early? Yes or no? I am totally unable to edit wav files, but, at least, I donļæ½t cut out music.
When the instruments stop playing you can still hear the music, right? Sadly, for some reason, you people are not interested in hearing the complete tracks. š
If you have a MAC, just use Garageband. If you have a Windows, I canāt help ya.
Otherwise, if youāre really craving the the drums, just pick up the original score. It it bookmarked by the drum beat.
(http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/amandag68/media/JumanjiComplete_zps5a5d4759.jpg.html)
And thanks also to Calidoran for the Drums, theyāre fantastic!
: )
At first I figured Iād remove the sky section at the top to give it an enveloping black edge, figured itād be moodier, and would match more the tone of that original album cover. Then I ended up adding the sky back in and kinda liked it after all. Decided to save both versions, so pick whichever you prefer. Not totally satisfied with the font treatment, but I suppose it works, and is close enough to the design of the original.
Hope you guys enjoy these!
(let me know if thereās any other of these JHFan custom Hornerās that could use a new coverā¦)
You need to click on "share" and then use the "hotlink for forum" URL.
EDIT: never mind, you just fixed the links.
Since this is a "custom complete" score thread where you posted these covers, wouldnāt those covers better say "complete motion picture score"?
EDIT: never mind, you just fixed the links.
Since this is a "custom complete" score thread where you posted these covers, wouldnāt those covers better say "complete motion picture score"?
Hmm, yeah, I need to learn all the fixes for properly posting images here.
As to the Complete⦠Personally I tend to not like Complete/Extended on albums. Somehow it feels more bootleggy to me, even though of course thereās official Expanded albums now all the time. Complete is fine, but Extended specifically looks cheap to me. Anyways, I can make a version with Complete instead. Although if I just keep it this way, people can also use it as a replacement for the regular album, instead of being limited to this specific edit. But choices are nice, thanks for the feedback!
Here ātis: (also ever-so-slightly changed the white trim effect on the James Horner name)
Zippyshare.com ā drums.rar (http://www1.zippyshare.com/v/4001797/file.html)
I did a hackānāslash job of removing speech and sfx, but i think it sounds better than whatās on the Youtube clip. And if you want it in itās correct chronological place, it comes right after "Do You Miss Mom and Dad?" listed on the cover here. Not sure what JHFan has named itā¦
Can someone re-upload this?