Hans Zimmer – Man Of Steel MP3 *Streaming rip*




licenturion
06-09-2013, 11:29 PM
The album is now fully listenable for free on spotify: https://play.spotify.com/album/4HhinqNembckw2pMoDWAZ4

Download the DELUXE album on: Zippyshare.com – AutumnFrost.DE.160k.MP3.zip (http://www38.zippyshare.com/v/76542142/file.html) (160kbps for now)

or http://uploaded.net/file/3cxlmr06 (256kbps)

(thanks to antovolk for the link)

Tracklist:
CD1
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Look To The Stars (2:58)
Oil Rig (1:45)
Sent Here For A Reason (3:46)
DNA (3:34)
Goodbye My Son (2:01)
If You Love These People (3:22)
Krypton’s Last (1:58)
Terraforming (9:49)
Tornado (2:55)
You Die Or I Do (3:13)
Launch (2:36)
Ignition (1:19)
I Will Find Him (2:57)
This Is Clark Kent (3:47)
I Have So Many Questions (3:47)
Flight (4:18)
What Are You Going To Do When You Are Not Saving The World? (5:27)

CD2
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Man Of Steel (Hans’ Original Sketchbook) (28:16)
Are You Listening, Clark? (2:48)
General Zod (7:21)
You Led Us Here (2:59)
This Is Madness! (3:48)
Earth (6:11)
Arcade (7:25)

Enjoy!


Arial
06-09-2013, 11:33 PM
What kind of music it is this time ?

I’m a bit bored with the Zimmering.


halesz
06-09-2013, 11:33 PM
not available in my region…damn…

antovolk
06-09-2013, 11:35 PM
Like I said in the other thread, depends on region. Anyway, this means links should be popping up in 3…2…1…

licenturion
06-09-2013, 11:36 PM
What kind of music it is this time ?

I’m a bit bored with the Zimmering.

Well the same as always actually to be frankly. Epic sounding, nice simplistic themes and it has elements from all his previous scores.

Lot’s of action stuff this time and less ambient crap (thank god)

It’s good, but it’s nothing you wouldn’t expect.


Arial
06-09-2013, 11:39 PM
Well the same as always actually to be frankly. Epic sounding, nice simplistic themes and it has elements from all his previous scores.

Lot’s of action stuff this time and less ambient crap (thank god)

It’s good, but it’s nothing you wouldn’t expect.

Thank you very much for summing it up. 😉

And for the ambiant "crap", I’m actually rather fond of Mel Wesson’s ambient design (mostly when it melts with the music rather than alone).


Everan Shepard
06-09-2013, 11:42 PM
Sooooo… who will be the chosen hero that will rip the score? 😛

Arial
06-09-2013, 11:42 PM
Sooooo… who will be the chosen hero that will rip the score? 😛

I call that a victim.


T-Mann036
06-09-2013, 11:44 PM
I can’t get it… 🙁

Everan Shepard
06-09-2013, 11:44 PM
You do, I don’t.

antovolk
06-09-2013, 11:44 PM
BTW has anyone checked pastebin yet? Sometimes album leaks happen there…

Sunderella
06-09-2013, 11:46 PM
Sooooo… who will be the chosen hero that will rip the score? 😛
I’m on it, but it will take some time.. since I want it as good as possible and with the correct tags. Someone else here will probably do it faster than me. Edit: If You Love These People is a heavy track!

licenturion
06-09-2013, 11:47 PM
Well I would record it but it’s 1 midnight here and tomorrow when I’am bak awake a real leak will probably have appeared. Cause usually people start ‘upscaling’ a crappy webrip and post it everywhere as ‘real 320kpbs’.

BlastHard
06-09-2013, 11:47 PM
Delete

mgm5215
06-09-2013, 11:51 PM
Since that Zimmer’s CDs have become much more worst in the last years, I prefer to listen the score in the movie. And the film comes out the next week.

antovolk
06-09-2013, 11:52 PM
Found this on pastebin – cam someone pls download and check?

HANS ZIMMER – MAN OF STEEL DELUXE 160k MP3 – Pastebin.com (http://pastebin.com/kpRvMxK7)


Arial
06-09-2013, 11:52 PM
Since that Zimmer’s CDs have become much more worst in the last years…

How do you define "last years" ? 2001 ? 2004 ? 2005 ?


licenturion
06-09-2013, 11:54 PM
Thank you very much for summing it up. 😉

And for the ambiant "crap", I’m actually rather fond of Mel Wesson’s ambient design (mostly when it melts with the music rather than alone).

Well I don’t mind ambient sound design per se. But I don’t like it when they leave great action material of the score in favor of ambient tracks.

Almost through the album. Must say it’s has been some time a Zimmer soundtrack hasn’t been a disappointment on first listen. 🙂

———- Post added at 12:54 AM ———- Previous post was at 12:53 AM ———-

That pastebin link is real 🙂

I will update my post 🙂


mboy114
06-09-2013, 11:55 PM
I’m on it!

T-Mann036
06-09-2013, 11:57 PM
Found this on pastebin – cam someone pls download and check?

HANS ZIMMER – MAN OF STEEL DELUXE 160k MP3 – Pastebin.com (http://pastebin.com/kpRvMxK7)

Thanks for sharing this!


Sunderella
06-09-2013, 11:59 PM
Thanks for the link.

Arial
06-10-2013, 12:01 AM

… Wow ! It has turned into a celtic affair !?? Lol.

I think I’m gonna wait to be very old before seeing this.
Cheers.


ajajaj
06-10-2013, 12:01 AM
Thanks antovolk!!!!!!

marcorea1
06-10-2013, 12:05 AM
thanks! this will do until i receive my deluxe version

alejandrodelcla
06-10-2013, 12:09 AM
Thanks!!!!

RadikKolacek
06-10-2013, 12:12 AM
Thaaaaanks so much… Movie and Score of year.. no doubt 🙂

Russ
06-10-2013, 12:16 AM
Thanks 🙂

NerdyGeek
06-10-2013, 12:18 AM
That link is 100% legit, right?

mboy114
06-10-2013, 12:19 AM
So far…yes! 100% sir

CoolDwarf
06-10-2013, 12:20 AM
Thanks.

Arial
06-10-2013, 12:22 AM
thanks! this will do until i receive my deluxe version

Don’t be ridiculous please.


scrat28
06-10-2013, 12:22 AM
FINALLY!!!! Thanks 🙂

licenturion
06-10-2013, 12:25 AM
The suite ‘Hans Original Sketchbook’ is the best track for me. It has looooot’s of classic Zimmer in it. And I mean ‘Russian Peacemaker Choir’-classic :p

Kambei
06-10-2013, 12:28 AM
I admittedly have low expectations for this score, but still looking forward to giving it a listen. I’m openly a JW fan. He’s the principal reason I got into film music, and I think Superman was one of his greatest triumphs. I understand they want to get away from all the trappings of the original films, and losing the music is part of that, but to me makes it an incredibly difficult mountain for Zimmer to climb. And, honestly, I’ve never been impressed with his range, and I’m not sure he’s up to it. When it comes to action movies, he tends to do one thing, with varying degrees of loudness. When I listen to Zimmer, I’m reminded of Spinal Tap: "This one goes to 11."

BlastHard
06-10-2013, 12:31 AM
Now where is that Complete Score ? 😉 Haha

Still wondering, where the source of this is since there were folks stating they already had this soundtrack before this link showed up? Secret Soundtrack Society?!


marcorea1
06-10-2013, 12:33 AM
Don’t be ridiculous please.

What I say? Lmao


Amanda
06-10-2013, 12:33 AM
But, as mentioned before, Williams’ themes, and that style, will not work with the type of film this is going to be. Looking at trailers and sneak peeks, this film is much darker and more action oriented, with a more modern style of editing. The classic 70 & 80’s Williams would fail miserably in a film like this, I think.

stephen5
06-10-2013, 12:36 AM
WOW !!!!!!!!!

mboy114
06-10-2013, 12:36 AM
That’s not going to be till a few years mate XD

Hedon
06-10-2013, 12:36 AM
"If you love these people" has that rousing Zimmer sound I believe many of us love, where choir, drums, electric guitar and brass unite and blend into a sonic explosion of ultra-dramatic, melancholic harmonies. Too bad it’s so short. Let’s hope for an extended version in the sessions 😉

Admiral_Young
06-10-2013, 12:36 AM
Thank you!

BlastHard
06-10-2013, 12:36 AM
But, as mentioned before, Williams’ themes, and that style, will not work with the type of film this is going to be. Looking at trailers and sneak peeks, this film is much darker and more action oriented, with a more modern style of editing. The classic 70 & 80’s Williams would fail miserably in a film like this, I think.

That’s what I am thinking too, haven’t watched any clips/trailers since the teaser, wonder if there’s any comedy/funny bits to speak of in this film, guess I’ll just have to see for myself…


RedKSupes
06-10-2013, 12:39 AM
Thank you

BlastHard
06-10-2013, 12:41 AM
Hans Zimmer : Man Of Steel: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack | Has it leaked? (http://hasitleaked.com/2013/hans-zimmer-man-of-steel-original-motion-picture-soundtrack/)
-> LOL

Amanda
06-10-2013, 12:42 AM
there seem to be moments. The extended trailers and sneaks have been very interesting. It is more…mmm…Thor and Avengers than Superman as far as the "look" seems to go, and with that type of story telling. But time will tell. I thought Superman Returns looked good by trailers….and had Williams’ score to boot. **sigh**

mboy114
06-10-2013, 12:49 AM
my favourite track so far is "If you Love These People"

danhalluk
06-10-2013, 12:52 AM
Yes, thankyou for the share! Listening now. I’m usually the first to bash Zimmer, but I have to say he’s done a great job. It’ll never be up to the standard of Williams, but this definitely sounds like a modern Superman to me.

Kambei
06-10-2013, 12:56 AM
But, as mentioned before, Williams’ themes, and that style, will not work with the type of film this is going to be. Looking at trailers and sneak peeks, this film is much darker and more action oriented, with a more modern style of editing. The classic 70 & 80’s Williams would fail miserably in a film like this, I think.

I understand that argument. I’m not saying I think they should use JW’s Superman score. That’s not what I mean. What I mean is that it’s iconic. And if you’re going to replace something iconic, you’d better raise your game and do something extraordinary. I just don’t think Zimmer’s the guy to do that.


JWalker117
06-10-2013, 12:59 AM
If anyone cares, some guy is uploading the whole thing:

Man of Steel OST-Look to the Stars – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFTlKwhvrAY)

Funny how Peter Parker is uploading the Superman score hehe.


BlastHard
06-10-2013, 01:01 AM
If anyone cares, some guy is uploading the whole thing:

Man of Steel OST-Look to the Stars – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFTlKwhvrAY)

Funny how Peter Parker is uploading the Superman score hehe. Yeah, I am now more interested where he got if, unless he has the physical copy, any ideas where this is sourced from or what depository other users were getting it from? 🙂

PM me if you rather not say on the boards, thanks!


c???d???master88
06-10-2013, 01:03 AM
If I remember reading correctly, Zimmer handles the compiling of the soundtrack albums so that may be why we get more ambient music than action music. That or the missing action music is just a repetition of another cue with alternate mixing.

Nightmare27
06-10-2013, 01:13 AM
Thank you!.

spf781
06-10-2013, 01:23 AM
Thank you!

cosuna
06-10-2013, 01:30 AM
Thank You!

Crossbones
06-10-2013, 01:32 AM
Thaaaaanks so much… Movie and Score of year.. no doubt 🙂

Movie of the year, could be. score of the year? Meh> lol


Gunchips
06-10-2013, 01:35 AM
Awesome!!!!!! THX!!!

Sunderella
06-10-2013, 01:42 AM
What kind of thing is that heard around 0.14 in the track Oil Rig? It sounds strange to me.

rmattbill1
06-10-2013, 01:50 AM
Thank you!!!

Iambodigidy
06-10-2013, 01:50 AM
I am really looking forward to "What Are You Going to Do When You Are Not Saving the World?" on the DTS Headphone X app. Whoa….

c???d???master88
06-10-2013, 01:58 AM
So now that this score has finally leaked, after a quick listen through of portions of the tracks, fans can rest assured that not a single bloody reference to John Williams’ classic Superman remains intact. Every technique that Zimmer has employed in his career is present here meaning you get basically another rehash with nothing really new to offer. Does that mean it’s bad? No, not necessarily but it’s definitely NOT as memorable as the original. Honestly, there are no themes that scream to me to repeat it even though I no doubt will.

That leads me to my next point: I wish directors would stop and question why Hans Zimmer is the busiest composer in Hollywood right now because his output is never consistent nor is it consistently listenable. Sometimes he does go on autopilot therefore making it a safe gamble for fans (and maybe directors, too?) that are afraid that Zimmer will screw up another classic theme with his "themes" but so far, for every 1 good "original" score he does, he follows the next dozen up with either a rehash of a popular theme or motif of his with little to no development or it just becomes a repetitious bore of a mess.

Fans scoff all you want at my next comment but I disliked The Dark Knight trilogy scores for that exact reason. Batman Begins was good because at the time he actually built on his trademark sounds while simply rehashing the same material for the sequels. The new Joker theme for The Dark Knight score can’t even musically be considered a theme because there’s nothing melodic about a one-note sound effect. It’s effective but it’s not enough to keep the score moving along at a nice pace. It’s just a simple sound effect that starts out very low and just increases in volume and intensity but not leaving you with a theme that you’ll be humming at the end of the movie.

I attribute the success of the first two scores of the trilogy to James Newton Howard’s contributions. James Newton Howard, a man with actual musical and melodic talent, helped even out the overall tone of the scores for the first two movies but his exclusion from The Dark Knight Rises proved very detrimental since the only new theme introduced into TDKR was for Bane which wasn’t nearly as fascinating as the development stories led us to believe it would be. The Bane chant was impressive but there was NO, that’s right ZERO ZILCH NADA, development on it. The Joker motif actually got some sort of progression in the end. It just popped up at random times only to be replaced with dull underscore and repetitive action music from the first two films along with the multiple reprises of the "Dark Knight" theme that I swore if I heard blast from my speakers one more bloody time I was gonna poke my ears out with hot pokers. Predictably he repeated it no less than 4 or 5 times throughout the nearly 3 hour film but despite that, my ears were not gouged out with hot pokers but I also lost quite a bit of interest when it kept getting repeated over and over again. There was no development so you pretty much knew where the score was leading with each preceding cue. Don’t get me wrong, it did have its moments (the first few instances of the Bane theme and the extremely minimalistic and underdeveloped theme for Catwoman) but those moments were overshadowed by Zimmer’s insistent repetition.

Inception is a rare score in that I actually LOVED the themes for it BUT like every other score he’s done for the last 5-10 years, he repeats the same themes ad nauseum. There is the occasional development but in most cases, it’s basically a cut and paste job.

Sherlock Holmes 1 & 2 are the only two scores of his that I can find little to no fault with since he went all out for that score and created an entirely new sound that unfortunately hasn’t really been heard much in his post-Sherlock works. Why doesn’t he take a cue from himself and do something like that again? Better yet, why doesn’t he get more work like that? He’s NOT a composer that I think is meant for big Hollywood action films. He reminds me of a high class Tyler Bates. The only difference is Tyler Bates offers interesting ambient sounds while also introducing new action sounds. Go through Tyler Bates’ resume over the last 10 years and you will notice that he is a very diverse composer that doesn’t get himself lodged in a genre niche and refuse to leave it. He explores other genres and expands on his musical style even if he did blatantly rip-off music from Elliot Goldenthal’s Titus in his score for 300. At least it was a pleasant rip-off. Zimmer lodges himself in the big action movies niche with an occasional comedy, kids movie or drama when things are slow in his career. I think he needs to step away from the big action movie genre for a while, work on a few dozen smaller films to develop a little bit of humanity to his scores than in currently being demonstrated.

After all is said and done, I will definitely be seeing Man of Steel in IMAX 3D because honestly, that is the single best way to enjoy Zimmer’s big action scores: within the confines of the movies themselves but otherwise outside of the film, they come across very bland, heavily inspired and largely uninteresting.

There is further proof that talent does still exist in Hollywood but with how Zimmer seems to be taking a big slice of the Hollywood composer cake, we may never get to experience another composer’s work that isn’t overshadowed by Zimmer for probably many years. Until that time comes, I will give each new Zimmer score a listen or two then promptly delete them off my hard drive.

To the Zimmerites out there, you go on and continue eating your bitter Zimmer pie while I have a slice of the sweet stuff. If THIS is the future of music, I think I’ll keep looking back in the past. At least there, entertainment is guaranteed.


Lockdown
06-10-2013, 02:03 AM
I’ve had this for a few days now, it’s been on Spotify for a while. I knew someone would rip it eventually though.

c???d???master88
06-10-2013, 02:04 AM
Just to be fair on Zimmer though, he did not originally want to do this but got forced to….or so I read. It seems money does have a way of talking after all.

mboy114
06-10-2013, 02:12 AM
What’s with the Zimmer rant? I think each composer brings their own "style" to the table…They all have their own take to wards the films they are presented with…Yes. Under stand Zimmer might need a recovery from his boring Pirates 4 score and all that…but come on I’d like to see you come up with a memorable score that everyone will go on about…not trying to be rude but…it’s just a thought…

tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 02:23 AM
Oh my god. I can die now.
With the entire deluxe album playing on every radio, every channel, any form of broadcast.
General Zod doesn’t have shit.

lennet
06-10-2013, 02:35 AM
Thanks!

repoman10001
06-10-2013, 02:46 AM
Thanks

eglia
06-10-2013, 02:50 AM
Thanks for sharing the rip and "what are you doing when you are not saving the world" WOW!!!

ahdvd
06-10-2013, 02:57 AM
Cody, your argument holds water, but only so much as it applies to ALL composers – James Horner, Danny Elfman, James Newton Howard, Alan Silvestri, John Williams, Brian Tyler, the late Michael Kamen and Jerry Goldsmith too, all of them had their own distinct styles of doing things and only once in around 10 pieces of work actually came up with something that added something to their unique sound, everything else was largely a re-hash or re-working of what they did. Zimmer is no exception to this, but you and others continually bad-mouth him for his work, but on the whole, he gets the job done. I agree that Dark Knight Rises wasn’t especially great, but The Dark Knight was a great mix of music and effect that may not have been a great listen for some tracks, but it worked SO WELL with the movie – With regards to Rises, despite completely re-hashing the batman theme which had been built up for the first two movies, he did create a whole new theme and range of dynamics for Bane. and again, this worked in the movie to great effect.
There’s nothing worse than a composer who is out to create some massive symphonic piece that they want to make and the movie be damned, he serves the movie, he serves the mood of whatever scene he’s scoring, and he does it damned well and with a mind to making that scene all the better for it.

You can’t ask for more than that.


SUPERVENOM
06-10-2013, 03:06 AM
You ARe NoT AlOne………!!!

Drunkenmunkey
06-10-2013, 03:08 AM
I swear I hear the start of the old theme in terraforming…

Megalith
06-10-2013, 03:08 AM
Listening now. Someone should have called James Newton Howard.

arthurex
06-10-2013, 03:12 AM
Thank you!

DAKoftheOTA
06-10-2013, 03:14 AM
The beginning of "DNA" sounds like it belongs in Prometheus, I don’t know why. Has anyone listened to the 28-minute track yet?

yubyubquickly
06-10-2013, 03:16 AM
Thanks!

Arial
06-10-2013, 03:16 AM
I for one liked Ottman’s version. Ottman’s super-heroes scores have a bit of derision into them, to me, and this is quite welcome. In the same time there were a load of beautiful cues, entire tracks of beautiful music.

Unfortunately the mixing was poorly featuring the orchestral performance, with quite no separation, poor dynamic. I never heard the album though… It surely had it’s dose of DRCompression, wich the mixing was probably done for. But well mixed I’m sure it would give rather a great score, one you may remember.

My three cents.


Megalith
06-10-2013, 03:17 AM
I’m four tracks in and it’s disgustingly bland, although DNA almost has its moments.

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LoL, track five is from Pan’s Labyrinth.


Amanda
06-10-2013, 03:20 AM
The complete sessions for Returns were posted here, in flac I think. Follow the smell of burning flesh, might find it. Unless that was **before** we were burning folks at the stake for posting.

I had trouble with Returns, and I think it is because of the clash between Williams’ themes, and the new, original score sections. There is NO hint at all of Williams in the new score. NONE.


Arial
06-10-2013, 03:23 AM
Sherlock Holmes 1 & 2 are the only two scores of his that I can find little to no fault with since he went all out for that score and created an entirely new sound that unfortunately hasn’t really been heard much in his post-Sherlock works…

Are you sure HE created a new sound ?

Errm, pay attention to this guy… Diego Stocco – Experibass – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdYj7dMYwxM)

———- Post added at 08:23 PM ———- Previous post was at 08:21 PM ———-

The complete sessions for Returns were posted here, in flac I think. Follow the smell of burning flesh, might find it…
Thanks, but yes I experienced it in lossless. It doens’t change the mixing quality.


Amanda
06-10-2013, 03:32 AM
So are all my little Zimmer-letts revived? No more "vapors" or gasping desperately for air? I do nor personally find anything in this score to be excited about. But, it will be **just** bland and yet familiar enough that audiences will both not notice it and yet think they did at the same time. 🙂

Everan Shepard
06-10-2013, 03:33 AM
Can we please not make this another "Zimmer sucks" thread? It’s annoying.

It’s fine if you don’t like it, but many others do, so let’s just disagree and go back to the things we love, like music in general.


c???d???master88
06-10-2013, 03:34 AM
What’s with the Zimmer rant? I think each composer brings their own "style" to the table…They all have their own take to wards the films they are presented with…Yes. Under stand Zimmer might need a recovery from his boring Pirates 4 score and all that…but come on I’d like to see you come up with a memorable score that everyone will go on about…not trying to be rude but…it’s just a thought…

We’re not putting my own creativity under scrutiny here (because let’s face it, I’ve never written a film score or any musical composition of that nature so it’s a lost cause trying to argue about my own creativity) and I know everyone has a beef with Zimmer but out of every composer I’ve heard (even the ones that are notorious for repeating themselves ad nauseum), Zimmer stands out as the weak link of the chain to me. I know Goldsmith, Elfman, Horner, etc etc. are notorious for taking the same themes and just revamping them for a new environment. Zimmer, in my humble opinion, was interesting when he started but beginning with Crimson Tide on, his distinct style has never really appealed to me. It doesn’t even sound like music to me but rather synthetic noise. Sure, he’s improved since then but comparing him to the aforementioned composers above is pure blasphemy. Zimmer’s style can in no way compare to their styles. I’m not gonna deny that there are several scores from the aforementioned composers that, yes, do make me feel like my ears are gonna bleed. Elfman especially as of late whose style hasn’t really changed much in the last 10-15 years. Horner is another example. I like a few of his scores but, like Zimmer, his distinctive style is not my taste. Aliens being probably the most bearable score of his that I can immediately recall. The Amazing Spiderman personally being my least favorite yet it got a ton of hype and people really seem to like it. I’m just not one of them. He has many other greats but also some real stinkers. Same with Goldsmith and every other composer in existence. I’m not afraid to point out that no composer is 100% original or listenable with each new score but none of them as overhyped and overused as Zimmer. Many can argue that point and hey, have at it. I won’t stop you. How else am I gonna learn than by finding out how someone else thinks I’m wrong? No one can tell me I’m wrong because music is entirely subjective to each individual listener’s musical tastes so no one’s OPINION is right or wrong. Besides, film score music wasn’t ever really intended to be listened to outside of the context of the film so in the end, it makes any argument null and void in my opinion.


Amanda
06-10-2013, 03:39 AM
Said nothing about Zimmer. Just this score which is all drums and noise. though I don’t mind those, I would never EVER pick this out for a Superman score. Oil Rig is just a track of percussion. Nothing else. Like part of a larger track…..looking for a home.

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Sent here For A Reason is just a lil synth anmd like what…wind chimes? 😀

I will point out though, that despite my Horner fan status, I could care less for Amazing Spiderman, yet another non-superhero whatever piece….


FilmScore1978
06-10-2013, 03:41 AM
Can we please not make this another "Zimmer sucks" thread? It’s annoying.

Zimmer sucking is definitley annoying!

For anyone who is interested, I posted these in the cover thread but thought I post them here as well.

Here’s my take on the Man of Steel DE covers.


Sunderella
06-10-2013, 03:42 AM
Oil Rig is just a track of percussion. Nothing else.
That reminds me of Apocalypto. The whole score was percussion and a bit of vocals? Can’t remember his name (the vocalists), but if I remember it right it was the thing I liked the most about that score. Random "PA, BI, DO!".

Amanda
06-10-2013, 03:44 AM
? Is Zimmer Sucking what they’re calling it these days? :angel:

Man, I haven’t had a good Zimmersuck in a while……

———- Post added at 07:44 PM ———- Previous post was at 07:43 PM ———-

That reminds me of Apocalypto. The whole score was percussion and a bit of vocals? Can’t remember his name (the vocalists), but if I remember it right it was the thing I liked the most about that score. Random "PA, BI, DO!".

Yes. Another Horner score I just can’t really listen too. Why do I have all his stuff again? :awsm:


mboy114
06-10-2013, 03:49 AM
Ok can we please stop scrutinising the score…if you don’t like it don’t listen to it if you like it listen to it and enjoy…what happened to enjoying music? Jeez you people always find faults with every score that’s released…just shut it down…keep the comments in your head or write them in a notebook…it’s a music thread not an opinion thread…not trying to being an @ss it’s just c’mon guys…..just enjoy the music

Arial
06-10-2013, 03:51 AM
Said nothing about Zimmer. Just this score which is all drums and noise. though I don’t mind those, I would never EVER pick this out for a Superman score. Oil Rig is just a track of percussion. Nothing else. Like part of a larger track…..looking for a home.[COLOR="Silver"]

LOL. But you’re listening to it… I mean, what for ? I’m posting in this thread while pm’ing a friend because it’s at the top in the forum and that’s it.

The person who started this thread was kind enough to announce the color of this music when I asked what it looks like, so you could have take advantage of that clue and save your time too.

… Your time, and your heart. Maybe go listen to beautiful things, I’m sure you have tons…


c???d???master88
06-10-2013, 03:51 AM
Ok can we please stop scrutinising the score…if you don’t like it don’t listen to it if you like it listen to it and enjoy…what happened to enjoying music? Jeez you people always find faults with every score that’s released…just shut it down…keep the comments in your head or write them in a notebook…it’s a music thread not an opinion thread…not trying to being an @ss it’s just c’mon guys…..just enjoy the music

The interweb is our notebook.


Arial
06-10-2013, 03:53 AM
…it’s a music thread not an opinion thread…

In my opinion you have no choice but to ignore what you don’t like -> ie, follow your own advice. You’ll see, life becomes beautiful.


Amanda
06-10-2013, 03:53 AM
Actually…no. If there to be no comments ON the music, then beyond the post of the link, what’s it for? To all bow and worship the composer or poster? Fuck that. Not meaning to a cunt, just saying.

I actually could see some of the Williams Krypton Motifs still working in this, but alas no. Lots’a rumbling…err…rumble though. Should blow your eardrums out nicely in the theater….


Sunderella
06-10-2013, 03:55 AM
Yes. Another Horner score I just can’t really listen too. Why do I have all his stuff again? :awsm:
I acually think it’s a decent score, no less no more but it’s not a score i’ll revisit often. I would rate it 2.5/5. It works well in the movie but not so well on its own.

Because you have Balto as your avatar!


Woodlands1
06-10-2013, 03:55 AM
I’m just curious, codyap09, which of Zimmer’s older scores do you consider to be examples of him in his prime?

Amanda
06-10-2013, 03:56 AM
LOL. But you’re listening to it… I mean, what for ? I’m posting in this thread while pm’ing a friend because it’s at the top in the forum and that’s it.

The person who started this thread was kind enough to announce the color of this music when I asked what it looks like, so you could have take advantage of that clue and save your time too.

… Your time, and your heart. Maybe go listen to beautiful things, I’m sure you have tons…

I am merely experiencing this as my fellow members do, and interacting. What’s the point of the music wwithout sharing with anyone. And why pass on ANYTHING because someone said it’s not good? Surely that’s a purely personal judgement to make?


DaviD^8
06-10-2013, 03:56 AM
There is NO hint at all of Williams in the new score. NONE.

….were you expecting it?


Amanda
06-10-2013, 03:58 AM
Not speaking for cody, but I like Rain Main, Lion King, and Gladiator.

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….were you expecting it?

No, of course not. I was replying to members who were saying they heard hints of it, tis all.


Arial
06-10-2013, 03:58 AM
Actually…no. If there to be no comments ON the music, then beyond the post of the link, what’s it for?…

… 100% agreed…

Thanks ! Suber ! Awesome ! So great ! Marvelous ! Genius ! Sucks (ooops) ! Incredible !


Sunderella
06-10-2013, 03:59 AM
Beyond Rangoon -> Water of Irrawaddy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGxGYtERs4M) is one of my favorites by Zimmer.

Megalith
06-10-2013, 03:59 AM
I’m up to track 14 and it’s literally been nothing but noise, with the same theme/motif sprinkled around over and over. And I enjoy quite a bit of Zimmer’s stuff. WTF is this? Guess he was too intimidated by Williams.

I wish Basil Poledouris was around to score this.


Amanda
06-10-2013, 04:02 AM
I’m up to track 14 and it’s literally been nothing but noise, with the same theme/motif sprinkled around over and over. And I enjoy quite a bit of Zimmer’s stuff. WTF is this? Guess he was too intimidated by Williams.

I wish Basil Poledouris was around to score this.

Now, I don’t think that is entirely fair yet. We do not know how this will work in the scenes they are meant for. We do not know what Directives Zimmer was given. All composers are paid employees. If ya want yer pay, ya gotta do what you’re asked to. So We can’t just blame Zimmer/Horner/whomever.


DaviD^8
06-10-2013, 04:02 AM
I wish Basil Poledouris was around to score this.

well he’s not and neither is jerry goldsmith or maurice jarre or any of the other greats cry us a river it is what it is


Arial
06-10-2013, 04:06 AM
… And why pass on ANYTHING because someone said it’s not good? Surely that’s a purely personal judgement to make?

I haven’t been told it is not good.

Check post 2 and the reply a little after. Just discussion, no defenitive judgement.


Amanda
06-10-2013, 04:06 AM
I’m up to track 14 and it’s literally been nothing but noise, with the same theme/motif sprinkled around over and over. And I enjoy quite a bit of Zimmer’s stuff. WTF is this? Guess he was too intimidated by Williams.

I wish Basil Poledouris was around to score this.

Now, I don’t think that is entirely fair yet. We do not know how this will work in the scenes they are meant for. We do not know what Directives Zimmer was given. All composers are paid employees. If ya want yer pay, ya gotta do what you’re asked to. So We can’t just blame Zimmer/Horner/whomever.


kiedysgrzes
06-10-2013, 04:07 AM
Thanks for sharing, I have to wait for my preorder next 10 days, like i thought by the previews, it’s simply fantastic! Not goddamn irritating Batman music at all 🙂

Amanda
06-10-2013, 04:07 AM
well he’s not and neither is jerry goldsmith or maurice jarre or any of the other greats cry us a river it is what it is

I say we dig ’em up. Rattle them around a bit for the "moody" tracks. Call it The Last Great Collaboration (Percussion Edition)


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 04:08 AM
You guys. lol.

Amanda
06-10-2013, 04:10 AM
Thanks for sharing, I have to wait for my preorder next 10 days, like i thought by the previews, it’s simply fantastic! Not goddamn irritating Batman music at all 🙂

YEA! I **hate** goddamn irritating Batman music. I am far happier with vapid souless Superman music. 😀 (Kidding, kidding) (but not really).

Let’s dig up Shirley Walker. Get her n the team to reprise the animated series themes. They were nice and non-irritating.

(Though I am hoping miss Walker has "moved on", so it may still run the risk of being souless….:D)

:awsm:


c???d???master88
06-10-2013, 04:10 AM
I’m just curious, codyap09, which of Zimmer’s older scores do you consider to be examples of him in his prime?

The only non-traditional (in the Zimmer sense) score of his I really liked was A League of Their Own. No synths, lush orchestrations and beautiful to boot. Something I never thought possible from Zimmer in his current stage. Just to be clear, I don’t typically go for "beautiful" scores as if my B.W. Sinfonia projects don’t already tell you that. Another post-prime score of his I liked was The Peacemaker, typically. The Lion King was okay but not my taste. Never been one for animated film scores. Gladiator (in both album and recording sessions form) I tried to sit through but halfway through, I got bored and turned it off. In fact, I specifically remember falling asleep during the movie in theatres and attempting to watch it on DVD upon release but turning it off at the exact same point at which I fell asleep. They say stay to the end and I say "present me with a mix of the album that will encourage me to stay to the end and I will oblige." To this day, no one has, at least that I can see. I never liked the Rain Man score. In fact, my first thoughts on the opening scene was "what is this god awful 80’s synth crap and who composed it?" Crimson Tide, a score I think was primarily designed for the adrenaline junkie male (just to be clear I consider myself to be one of those), was just the start of what would become his long-standing tradition of synth noise for action films that serve their purpose within the film but make for very uncomfortable and boring individual listening experiences. Backdraft has to be the main exception to the style. I remember visiting Universal Studios Hollywood, going on the Backdraft show tour and actively seeking out the film and score since they sampled some of the music from the score but not quite liking it nearly as much as I remember upon arriving home and giving it a spin. It’s a good score but too noisy for my taste. That’s all I’ve got for now.


JDow13
06-10-2013, 04:13 AM
Damn…I go take a dump for 10 minutes…I come back…and something else is leaking…

– Grand score it is, though – however ambience-infected it may be…Worth every penny. Cheers!


Amanda
06-10-2013, 04:14 AM
Is ambience infection a result of unsafe zimmersucking practices? If so is there an ointment or sumsuch?

DaviD^8
06-10-2013, 04:15 AM
I go take a dump for 10 minutes

see a doctor


Amanda
06-10-2013, 04:17 AM
Doctor who, though, doctor who?

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OH, let’s get Murray Gold to do it!! I am Superman -In Kansas…..:)


Megalith
06-10-2013, 04:20 AM
Well, at least "What Are You Going to Do…" is good. It’s basically the trailer music, but the piano bit is played a little differently (trailer version is better).

Now I have to sit through this 28 minute track.


Amanda
06-10-2013, 04:22 AM
Well, at least "What Are You Going to Do…" is good. It’s basically the trailer music, but the piano bit is played a little differently (trailer version is better).

Now I have to sit through this 28 minute track.

Yes, and yet that tracks nicely sums up the entire score in 5 minutes. Keep it dump the rest and you’re not missing anything….


Arial
06-10-2013, 04:24 AM

[/COLOR]OH, let’s get Murray Gold to do it!! I am Superman -In Kansas…..:)

Speaking of Murray… You said you were not "nice anymore" but, well… I have like a ‘Bill Murray’ feeling reading you ! (that guy cracks me up). 😀


Jasonjhn8
06-10-2013, 04:25 AM
So now that this score has finally leaked, after a quick listen through of portions of the tracks, fans can rest assured that not a single bloody reference to John Williams’ classic Superman remains intact. Every technique that Zimmer has employed in his career is present here meaning you get basically another rehash with nothing really new to offer. Does that mean it’s bad? No, not necessarily but it’s definitely NOT as memorable as the original. Honestly, there are no themes that scream to me to repeat it even though I no doubt will.

That leads me to my next point: I wish directors would stop and question why Hans Zimmer is the busiest composer in Hollywood right now because his output is never consistent nor is it consistently listenable. Sometimes he does go on autopilot therefore making it a safe gamble for fans (and maybe directors, too?) that are afraid that Zimmer will screw up another classic theme with his "themes" but so far, for every 1 good "original" score he does, he follows the next dozen up with either a rehash of a popular theme or motif of his with little to no development or it just becomes a repetitious bore of a mess.

Fans scoff all you want at my next comment but I disliked The Dark Knight trilogy scores for that exact reason. Batman Begins was good because at the time he actually built on his trademark sounds while simply rehashing the same material for the sequels. The new Joker theme for The Dark Knight score can’t even musically be considered a theme because there’s nothing melodic about a one-note sound effect. It’s effective but it’s not enough to keep the score moving along at a nice pace. It’s just a simple sound effect that starts out very low and just increases in volume and intensity but not leaving you with a theme that you’ll be humming at the end of the movie.

I attribute the success of the first two scores of the trilogy to James Newton Howard’s contributions. James Newton Howard, a man with actual musical and melodic talent, helped even out the overall tone of the scores for the first two movies but his exclusion from The Dark Knight Rises proved very detrimental since the only new theme introduced into TDKR was for Bane which wasn’t nearly as fascinating as the development stories led us to believe it would be. The Bane chant was impressive but there was NO, that’s right ZERO ZILCH NADA, development on it. The Joker motif actually got some sort of progression in the end. It just popped up at random times only to be replaced with dull underscore and repetitive action music from the first two films along with the multiple reprises of the "Dark Knight" theme that I swore if I heard blast from my speakers one more bloody time I was gonna poke my ears out with hot pokers. Predictably he repeated it no less than 4 or 5 times throughout the nearly 3 hour film but despite that, my ears were not gouged out with hot pokers but I also lost quite a bit of interest when it kept getting repeated over and over again. There was no development so you pretty much knew where the score was leading with each preceding cue. Don’t get me wrong, it did have its moments (the first few instances of the Bane theme and the extremely minimalistic and underdeveloped theme for Catwoman) but those moments were overshadowed by Zimmer’s insistent repetition.

Inception is a rare score in that I actually LOVED the themes for it BUT like every other score he’s done for the last 5-10 years, he repeats the same themes ad nauseum. There is the occasional development but in most cases, it’s basically a cut and paste job.

Sherlock Holmes 1 & 2 are the only two scores of his that I can find little to no fault with since he went all out for that score and created an entirely new sound that unfortunately hasn’t really been heard much in his post-Sherlock works. Why doesn’t he take a cue from himself and do something like that again? Better yet, why doesn’t he get more work like that? He’s NOT a composer that I think is meant for big Hollywood action films. He reminds me of a high class Tyler Bates. The only difference is Tyler Bates offers interesting ambient sounds while also introducing new action sounds. Go through Tyler Bates’ resume over the last 10 years and you will notice that he is a very diverse composer that doesn’t get himself lodged in a genre niche and refuse to leave it. He explores other genres and expands on his musical style even if he did blatantly rip-off music from Elliot Goldenthal’s Titus in his score for 300. At least it was a pleasant rip-off. Zimmer lodges himself in the big action movies niche with an occasional comedy, kids movie or drama when things are slow in his career. I think he needs to step away from the big action movie genre for a while, work on a few dozen smaller films to develop a little bit of humanity to his scores than in currently being demonstrated.

After all is said and done, I will definitely be seeing Man of Steel in IMAX 3D because honestly, that is the single best way to enjoy Zimmer’s big action scores: within the confines of the movies themselves but otherwise outside of the film, they come across very bland, heavily inspired and largely uninteresting.

There is further proof that talent does still exist in Hollywood but with how Zimmer seems to be taking a big slice of the Hollywood composer cake, we may never get to experience another composer’s work that isn’t overshadowed by Zimmer for probably many years. Until that time comes, I will give each new Zimmer score a listen or two then promptly delete them off my hard drive.

To the Zimmerites out there, you go on and continue eating your bitter Zimmer pie while I have a slice of the sweet stuff. If THIS is the future of music, I think I’ll keep looking back in the past. At least there, entertainment is guaranteed.

I respect your opinion, but alot of this I disagree with. What I do agree about is James Newton Howard’s contributions to BB & TDK (and lack there-of in TDKR). Especially the "Gotham Theme" from BB. Hans Zimmer is "overrated" (imo) but that doesn’t mean he’s not a good composer.


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 04:25 AM
I’m loving every minute of this. The score, I mean.

I don’t know why all the hate.


Amanda
06-10-2013, 04:27 AM
"Nice", and "funny" are not always the same. Is Lewis Black "nice"? I can discuss the music, and make quips and be totally detached emotionally. It’s empty, means nothing. But, this is how most prefer to see or read me, and so they will be happy little sheep, aside from that nasty ambience thing spreading around.

tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 04:28 AM
"This Is Madness" sounds like a "percussion only" mix of Bane’s tracks from TDKR.
And nothing like 300 as I had semi-hoped.

Continue, people.


asianrage
06-10-2013, 04:30 AM
Thank you for the effort. I can’t wait until Amazon ships the deluxe edition to me.

Amanda
06-10-2013, 04:30 AM
I’m loving every minute of this. The score, I mean.

I don’t know why all the hate.

NOT hate. Just open eyed critique. I can critique art without having to love or hate it.


Joseph
06-10-2013, 04:32 AM
What’s with the Zimmer rant? I think each composer brings their own "style" to the table…They all have their own take to wards the films they are presented with…Yes. Under stand Zimmer might need a recovery from his boring Pirates 4 score and all that…but come on I’d like to see you come up with a memorable score that everyone will go on about…not trying to be rude but…it’s just a thought…

I would be (pleasantly) surprised if a Hans Zimmer thread *didn’t* have a rant (or two) in it. Someone is wrong on the internet, the future of music is at stake, etc. etc.

I’m going to wait until Tuesday to listen to this. In the meanwhile, the trailer #3 score will be getting a lot of play on AIMP.


Amanda
06-10-2013, 04:33 AM
I was going to open a "zimmersuck" thread in GD, for the funnies. But I decided the intent would be misinterpreted, so I refrained….

Drunkenmunkey
06-10-2013, 04:34 AM
yup. more complaining…

indianajones78956
06-10-2013, 04:37 AM
Sooooo….. is there a working link anymore?

Amanda
06-10-2013, 04:43 AM
yup. more complaining…

Yup. Yet more mindless drinking of the Kool Aid….

I think consumers have a right to voice their happiness or disappointment with a thing. That is all this is. Unfortunately, while we can choose to buy or not buy a score album, we have no control over composer decisions. So, if there is a film we want to see, we are stuck with whatever drivel dribbles outta that composer’s brain, whomever that may be. So in a way, the music choices affect our entire film experience, so we have a right to voice our OPINIONS, not of the composer, but the resulting score.

**for fuck’s sake people**

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Sooooo….. is there a working link anymore?

The zippyshare link in the very first post on the very first page works just fine and dandy.

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Almost done with the "sketchbook". The final score did not seem to differ much at all, really.


Arial
06-10-2013, 04:44 AM
I’m loving every minute of this. The score, I mean.

I don’t know why all the hate.

Ahh. Too bad. I thought this was about the discussion.

And the second line is perfect to tease people and start a drama, lol. I’d be curious to see listed all the signs of hate in this thread. There are some critiscism indeed, and a few rant against critiscism, but nothing bad.

When I read the score is "noisy", I reckon the Zimmer touch / productions for that kind of movies… I can only trust it. Some like it that way, but not everybody enjoys black metal.


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 04:45 AM
ambience thing spreading around.

It’s not for everyone.
I imagine it gets more appreciation if it’s for free like on Bandcamp.com in the "discover" section.
I think people really want to get the most for their buck when they pay to see a movie.

I mean, my mom doesn’t like today’s hero’s that much.
She can’t stand the long, drawn out fighting scenes.
Too much action, not enough one-hits like the old days when it was Arnold being the hero.

The ambiance really works for me, and not on an "acquired taste" level either.
I was really captivated by it when I first heard it slowly make its way into the film industry.

Brian Reitzell does wonderful ambiance and noise.
Steve Jablonsky would if he spent more time on it. His Texas Chainsaws are riveting when they pick up.
Tyler Bates can do really well at it too, if you forgive his plagiarism in 300. Remember when Snyder and Bates did Dawn of the Dead? Their early days were extremely fun with experimenting in all sorts of interpretations and approaches. Especially for Snyder. He wasn’t too heavy with the slow motion back then.
Also Michael Andrews had some fun with it in Donnie Darko.

Atmospheric, ambiance, noise, whatever you call it, sounds like it fits mostly with indie films or short videos.
Which there are a lot of short videos that use this style for their musical backdrops.
But it’s not a style that’s designed only for those types of productions.
I like that it’s making bigger productions.

I think most people would be more happier with someone simple and thematic rather than someone experimental.

The obvious thing to do is name everyone who ever composed for any Superman production.
Which lacks true inspiration and imagination. It’s far too easy to do that.
The idea is to present something new.
We’ve had themes. We’ve had themes forever. But they’re not the definition of the figure. It’s not like Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster created Superman with John Williams in mind.

It becomes unfortunate when a society has to compare X with Y simply because they’re in the same Romanized alphabet.
I’ve no idea what the George Reeves TV series was like.
And I remember much less from the animated series.
I didn’t watch anything of Smallville.
I don’t doubt they were appreciated. I also don’t think they would have used William’s score verbatim for sake of it all of it being about the Superman.

How many different themes were there for Batman?
All them thematic until Zimmer came along and explicitly said he wanted to create something that not everyone can hum or whistle so easily as the Superman theme or Elfman’s interpretation on the Batman.

This style drives me a lot. More than you can imagine.
How?
I don’t know. I can’t think of the words, I can’t formulate a theory that can be rationalized and quantified.
But it works.
It all works.

Zimmer’s not a monster; he’s just ahead of the curve~


Arial
06-10-2013, 04:53 AM
Spartank’s post makes me think I’d rather hear Zimmer on a X-men score, for instance. ‘Experimental’ fits that universe.

Besides, his style would fit much better with the Marvel universe. Regarding this I have the feeling he’s copied a lot by the composers in charge.


Phideas1
06-10-2013, 04:53 AM
? Is Zimmer Sucking what they’re calling it these days? :angel:

Man, I haven’t had a good Zimmersuck in a while……

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Yes. Another Horner score I just can’t really listen too. Why do I have all his stuff again? :awsm:

____________________________________

It is a new take on a tired theme. So Williams’ music isn’t important to this. The revamped Star Trek had a nice homage to the original TV series in the end credits- but that doesn’t happen often.

Zimmer did good with the awful movies DaVinci Code & its sequel. He was masterful with Inception. The Bible has two good tracks.

You can still masturbate to a photo of James Horner, yes? 😉


Biggs v.2
06-10-2013, 04:53 AM
I’m loving every minute of this. The score, I mean.

I don’t know why all the hate.

This guy gets it. This place is full with people who have an awfully high opinion of themselves and their music taste. LOL.

Soundtrack is amazing, only half way through… it’s a thing of beauty, glad I pre-ordered this, should arrive soon!


Amanda
06-10-2013, 04:54 AM
It’s not for everyone.
I imagine it gets more appreciation if it’s for free like on Bandcamp.com in the "discover" section.
I think people really want to get the most for their buck when they pay to see a movie.

I mean, my mom doesn’t like today’s hero’s that much.
She can’t stand the long, drawn out fighting scenes.
Too much action, not enough one-hits like the old days when it was Arnold being the hero.

The ambiance really works for me, and not on an "acquired taste" level either.
I was really captivated by it when I first heard it slowly make its way into the film industry.

Brian Reitzell does wonderful ambiance and noise.
Steve Jablonsky would if he spent more time on it. His Texas Chainsaws are riveting when they pick up.
Tyler Bates can do really well at it too, if you forgive his plagiarism in 300. Remember when Snyder and Bates did Dawn of the Dead? Their early days were extremely fun with experimenting in all sorts of interpretations and approaches. Especially for Snyder. He wasn’t too heavy with the slow motion back then.
Also Michael Andrews had some fun with it in Donnie Darko.

Atmospheric, ambiance, noise, whatever you call it, sounds like it fits mostly with indie films or short videos.
Which there are a lot of short videos that use this style for their musical backdrops.
But it’s not a style that’s designed only for those types of productions.
I like that it’s making bigger productions.

I think most people would be more happier with someone simple and thematic rather than someone experimental.

The obvious thing to do is name everyone who ever composed for any Superman production.
Which lacks true inspiration and imagination. It’s far too easy to do that.
The idea is to present something new.
We’ve had themes. We’ve had themes forever. But they’re not the definition of the figure. It’s not like Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster created Superman with John Williams in mind.

It becomes unfortunate when a society has to compare X with Y simply because they’re in the same Romanized alphabet.
I’ve no idea what the George Reeves TV series was like.
And I remember much less from the animated series.
I didn’t watch anything of Smallville.
I don’t doubt they were appreciated. I also don’t think they would have used William’s score verbatim for sake of it all of it being about the Superman.

How many different themes were there for Batman?
All them thematic until Zimmer came along and explicitly said he wanted to create something that not everyone can hum or whistle so easily as the Superman theme or Elfman’s interpretation on the Batman.

This style drives me a lot. More than you can imagine.
How?
I don’t know. I can’t think of the words, I can’t formulate a theory that can be rationalized and quantified.
But it works.
It all works.

Zimmer’s not a monster; he’s just ahead of the curve~

Well, the 50’s seials had the "iconic" main theme, but a lot of it, most of it, was dramatic library cues and stuff. I do not enjoy it apart from the show. Williams’s themes of course. Hmmm. Lois & Clark…meh-ish. The various Superboy variations. No, none of those used the Williams themes or before. Smallville went the opposite. The main title obviously, and then with Snow you got yer atmospheric up the ying yang. As for what was "envisioned", go allllll the way back to those animated shorts in the 30’s and early 40’s. THAT is what every rendition was based on since, so in a way, we CAN get a glimpse of how the hero was originally "seen".


Bioscope
06-10-2013, 04:54 AM
Thank you for this. I have to travel far for work today, and I cannot think of a better companion than this one. You have made my day.

"He will be a god to them"


Amanda
06-10-2013, 04:56 AM
____________________________________

It is a new take on a tired theme. So Williams’ music isn’t important to this. The revamped Star Trek had a nice homage to the original TV series in the end credits- but that doesn’t happen often.

Zimmer did good with the awful movies DaVinci Code & its sequel. He was masterful with Inception. The Bible has two good tracks.

You can still masturbate to a photo of James Horner, yes? 😉

Nah, visually not interested at all. Besides, I ain’t a self service sort of girl, generally. I like to get a man in to do maintenance.


Arial
06-10-2013, 04:58 AM
Well, the 50’s seials had the "iconic" main theme, but a lot of it, most of it, was dramatic library cues and stuff. I do not enjoy it apart from the show. Williams’s themes of course. Hmmm. Lois & Clark…meh-ish. The various Superboy variations. No, none of those used the Williams themes or before. Smallville went the opposite. The main title obviously, and then with Snow you got yer atmospheric up the ying yang. As for what was "envisioned", go allllll the way back to those animated shorts in the 30’s and early 40’s. THAT is what every rendition was based on since, so in a way, we CAN get a glimpse of how the hero was originally "seen".

*Impressed*… You’re a real scholar !

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Nah, visually not interested at all. Besides, I ain’t a self service sort of girl, generally. I like to get a man in to do maintenance.

… Only in ? 😀

(stupid me).


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 04:59 AM
Different approaches that are outside the norm for Superman?

Philip Glass would have been interesting as a stand alone album but wouldn’t have brought in the audience for opening day.
The movies Glass has worked on were mostly just well received.
I think The Hours was his biggest? But the cast and story were more than enough to compel audiences to show up.
Candyman was great but I think it became a cult classic after it made home release.
The Qaatsi trilogy is an extremely well structured piece of work. But not designed like a box office hit as something big as a super hero movie.
He’s a minimalist. The emotion builds slowly and sticks for awhile.

Clint Mansell would have been a wonderful choice. I see his films draw in way more money than any of Glass’s films. And Mansell has worked a wide variety of films, too. From obscure indie films to box office hits like Black Swan. He has wonderful texture full of emotion.

I would have liked to have heard Patrick Doyle’s take on this film though.
Not Brian Tyler. He’s getting too crazy with all the percussion and action lately. The Fast & Furious soundtracks get tiresome back-to-back.
Same with his Expendables. So long-winded in terms of action. I feel exhausted after listening to him.

Christopher Young would have been an excellent choice, me thinks. He balances well except when he’s forced by the director to do a 20 minute track, non-stop about fighting on a train with vampires. No time to breathe, jesus.


Joseph
06-10-2013, 04:59 AM
Someone mentioned Shirley Walker in this thread. I find her Superman material to be bland. The "Animated Series" theme song plays like a Jimmy Hart version of the John Williams march, just like every other piece of Superman music since 1978 that doesn’t borrow Williams’s themes.

Lockdown
06-10-2013, 05:00 AM
I ain’t a self service sort of girl, generally. I like to get a man in to do maintenance.

c???d???master88
06-10-2013, 05:01 AM
I love how some of the people here treat Zimmer as if he’s the Obama of the film score industry. Some think he’s good for the industry, other think he’s terrible. Either way it goes, we’re fucked.

Arial
06-10-2013, 05:03 AM
I love how some of the people here treat Zimmer as if he’s the Obama of the film score industry. Some think he’s good for the industry, other think he’s terrible. Either way it goes, we’re fucked.

I would say that for Superman himself !

… That hero is the worst fantasm of all.

(Edit: depends how you see Obama though).


Joseph
06-10-2013, 05:04 AM
I love how some of the people here treat Zimmer as if he’s the Obama of the film score industry. Some think he’s good for the industry, other think he’s terrible. Either way it goes, we’re fucked.

Well, that was unnecessary.


Amanda
06-10-2013, 05:07 AM
Different approaches that are outside the norm for Superman?

Philip Glass would have been interesting as a stand alone album but wouldn’t have brought in the audience for opening day.
The movies Glass has worked on were mostly just well received.
I think The Hours was his biggest? But the cast and story were more than enough to compel audiences to show up.
Candyman was great but I think it became a cult classic after it made home release.
The Qaatsi trilogy is an extremely well structured piece of work. But not designed like a box office hit as something big as a super hero movie.
He’s a minimalist. The emotion builds slowly and sticks for awhile.

Clint Mansell would have been a wonderful choice. I see his films draw in way more money than any of Glass’s films. And Mansell has worked a wide variety of films, too. From obscure indie films to box office hits like Black Swan. He has wonderful texture full of emotion.

I would have liked to have heard Patrick Doyle’s take on this film though.
Not Brian Tyler. He’s getting too crazy with all the percussion and action lately. The Fast & Furious soundtracks get tiresome back-to-back.
Same with his Expendables. So long-winded in terms of action. I feel exhausted after listening to him.

Christopher Young would have been an excellent choice, me thinks. He balances well except when he’s forced by the director to do a 20 minute track, non-stop about fighting on a train with vampires. No time to breathe, jesus.

Sparky, really? Do you **really** think the general audience has any idea at all who is scoring the film? Do you think ANY of them go to hear "the background songs", really?
BTW, I don’t mind the track This Is Madness, oddly.


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 05:08 AM
Spartank’s post makes me think I’d rather hear Zimmer on a X-men score, for instance. ‘Experimental’ fits that universe.

Besides, his style would fit much better with the Marvel universe. Regarding this I have the feeling he’s copied a lot by the composers in charge.

Zimmer doing X-Men/Marvel.
As much as I loved Kamen doing the first X-Men, I think Zimmer would have done better doing X-2.
Though the director doesn’t usually work with anyone else besides Ottman.
I didn’t mind the Ottman score once it all came out. But it would have been fun to see Zimmer do that.
Keep in nice with the "experimental" genre of music that Kamen brought for the first one.
John Powell was perfect for the third one. AND THAT’S ALL THAT WAS PERFECT FOR THE THIRD ONE! We don’t need the actual film. :notgood:
Just the score will do. :smrt:

This guy gets it. This place is full with people who have an awfully high opinion of themselves and their music taste. LOL.

Soundtrack is amazing, only half way through… it’s a thing of beauty, glad I pre-ordered this, should arrive soon!

Not so much themselves, just their opinion.
The self can speak so distinctly that we often misinterpret their intentions.

Well, the 50’s seials had the "iconic" main theme, but a lot of it, most of it, was dramatic library cues and stuff. I do not enjoy it apart from the show. Williams’s themes of course. Hmmm. Lois & Clark…meh-ish. The various Superboy variations. No, none of those used the Williams themes or before. Smallville went the opposite. The main title obviously, and then with Snow you got yer atmospheric up the ying yang. As for what was "envisioned", go allllll the way back to those animated shorts in the 30’s and early 40’s. THAT is what every rendition was based on since, so in a way, we CAN get a glimpse of how the hero was originally "seen".

I didn’t know about the cartoons origination the iconic theme.
But no matter, it is a tired theme~ :awsm:

It’s great to not hear anyone flog a dead horse with this.
Mark Snow? I didn’t know he did Smallville. He is extremely of this same category… :erm: Did they ever do a second volume to X-Files??? :confused:


Amanda
06-10-2013, 05:09 AM
Someone mentioned Shirley Walker in this thread. I find her Superman material to be bland. The "Animated Series" theme song plays like a Jimmy Hart version of the John Williams march, just like every other piece of Superman music since 1978 that doesn’t borrow Williams’s themes.

The main theme itself is campy, sure, but i find the actual episode scores to be more fruitful, much as the BTAS scores are. There is much more going on there. This is the same team that also brought is Justice League, Young Justice, Titans, and Batman Beyond. All very listenable. In my gloriously lofty over rated sort of opinion.


Lockdown
06-10-2013, 05:10 AM
What if John Williams scored this film? I don’t know where I came up with that idea, it just popped in my head, though!

Amanda
06-10-2013, 05:13 AM
Zimmer doing X-Men/Marvel.
As much as I loved Kamen doing the first X-Men, I think Zimmer would have done better doing X-2.
Though the director doesn’t usually work with anyone else besides Ottman.
I didn’t mind the Ottman score once it all came out. But it would have been fun to see Zimmer do that.
Keep in nice with the "experimental" genre of music that Kamen brought for the first one.
John Powell was perfect for the third one. AND THAT’S ALL THAT WAS PERFECT FOR THE THIRD ONE! We don’t need the actual film. :notgood:
Just the score will do. :smrt:

Not so much themselves, just their opinion.
The self can speak so distinctly that we often misinterpret their intentions.

I didn’t know about the cartoons origination the iconic theme.
But no matter, it is a tired theme~ :awsm:

It’s great to not hear anyone flog a dead horse with this.
Mark Snow? I didn’t know he did Smallville. He is extremely of this same category… :erm: Did they ever do a second volume to X-Files??? :confused:

Not that I have seen or heard. Louis Febre replaced him during the show’s run, around season 5 or so?

Having an opinion about music….why is that lofty. Am I supposed to just mercifully thank the Gods for whatever dreck gets poured onto me? (NO. no bukkake jokes….NO)
I don’t have to write or study music to know what I like or I don’t. Or even why. It is just a with the gut sort of thing.

Sparky, You might like the Smallville score album then….


c???d???master88
06-10-2013, 05:16 AM
Well, that was unnecessary.
Who cares? We’re all just having fun now.

tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 05:16 AM
Sparky, really? Do you **really** think the general audience has any idea at all who is scoring the film? Do you think ANY of them go to hear "the background songs", really?
BTW, I don’t mind the track This Is Madness, oddly.

On a subconscious level, yes.
They won’t bother mentioning anything because they typically didn’t pay attention to the composer’s name in the credits or anything.
But I’ve played movies from the laptop to the TV for people using FFDShow as the audio decoder and put the center channel on solo.
The other channels were muted and the film luckily kept all or most of it in the surround sound channels (Left, right, back left, back right, etc).
Any music that was in the center channel was very quiet and not really on the mind at the time.

They did notice a huge difference in how the movie was presented when the music was removed.

As far as music goes, the audience can only identify with the music they know: Coldplay, Linkin Park, The Rolling Stones.
The rest of the score they don’t tend to try and say anything on account of they know nothing about it.
But their minds take it in and they can feel the emotion. Just can’t process the words.

My younger brother found the movies boring with the music taken out. :laugh:
he can’t name composer like us but he knows I follow it.
He’ll sure as hell point that Nickelback was in the movie. 😡


Megalith
06-10-2013, 05:17 AM
Okay, finished. It’s a throwaway score. Ambience, percussion, repeat ad nauseam. Only tracks that stood out for me were the trailer theme and Arcade.

The guitar in Flight is incredibly disturbing. I think what Zimmer was going for was a farmland sound, and it’s a poor choice for a flying alien.


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 05:18 AM
Sparky, You might like the Smallville score album then….

:erm: Is there such a thing? I’m going to go look.


Joseph
06-10-2013, 05:18 AM
The main theme itself is campy, sure, but i find the actual episode scores to be more fruitful, much as the BTAS scores are. There is much more going on there. This is the same team that also brought is Justice League, Young Justice, Titans, and Batman Beyond. All very listenable. In my gloriously lofty over rated sort of opinion.

Fair enough. I feel the same way about her "Batman: TAS" material: trite "hero" theme, but the episode scores were well done. Batgirl had a nice theme, though.


Arial
06-10-2013, 05:19 AM

John Powell was perfect for the third one. AND THAT’S ALL THAT WAS PERFECT FOR THE THIRD ONE! We don’t need the actual film. :notgood:
Just the score will do. :smrt:

That’s why I wouldn’t say he was "perfect for the 3rd one" ! We was perfect alone, lol.
I admired it for a while but I haven’t listened to it a long time. Can become rapidly boring somehow.

Ah, sensitivity. We’re all so different.


Amanda
06-10-2013, 05:20 AM
Yea, Sparks. I have it, I’ll pm you. Not lossless though, sorry. 🙁

But, "a flying alien" is NOT what Superman is about. It is ABOUT the Kansas farmboy, who incidentally **happens** to be a flying alien. The Kent, the farmboy values are what keeps him from killing us dead, outta shere boredom.


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 05:23 AM
Loopy. We need someone loopy like Elfman but younger and more naive.

…oh god… what if there was NO SCORE to this and QUINTIN TARANTINO DID IT??

:nokick:

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Yea, Sparks. I have it, I’ll pm you. Not lossless though, sorry. 🙁

But, "a flying alien" is NOT what Superman is about. It is ABOUT the Kansas farmboy, who incidentally **happens** to be a flying alien. The Kent, the farmboy values are what keeps him from killing us dead, outta shere boredom.

It’s fine if it’s not lossless. 🙂

😡 Spoiler that! I’ve not watched the movie yet. Now I’ll know the whole time and be completely distracted.


theodred27
06-10-2013, 05:24 AM
R I S E

Arial
06-10-2013, 05:24 AM
Loopy. We need someone loopy like Elfman but younger and more naive.

And what about simply "good Zimmer" ?


Lockdown
06-10-2013, 05:28 AM
Amanda are you talking about this soundtrack? "Smallville – The Talon Mix – 2003"

Amanda
06-10-2013, 05:30 AM
i’d watch a Tarantino Justice League or Wonder Woman. Or Bats. That shit’d be funny….

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Amanda are you talking about this soundtrack? "Smallville – The Talon Mix – 2003"

No. A 2 disc "deluxe" score album was released a couple of years ago. It is all score, no VA songs. All the rest of the albums are VA songs, no score. (Except I think end credits)


Joseph
06-10-2013, 05:30 AM
Hans Zimmer is the LeBron James of film music. People keep hating him, and he keeps scoring.

kyleol
06-10-2013, 05:31 AM
thanks for sharing this~

Lockdown
06-10-2013, 05:32 AM
Sorry I was just trying to help out.

Amanda
06-10-2013, 05:33 AM
Amanda are you talking about this soundtrack? "Smallville – The Talon Mix – 2003"

It’s a La-La Land release. Mine is put into supposed chronological order, based on a post at a web site. But the music itself is untouched. I am packing now, Sparky. Why sorry? 🙂


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 05:33 AM
:ashine: "all score" I like the sound of that.
I can’t really trust VA albums for TV.
VA just doesn’t stand out that much for me.

Sure, Tarantino has some hits. But very obscure.
I like his older work much more.
Kill Bill Vol. 1 was fun, but mostly seemed like a very large project that a college student would do for grades and marks.


Lockdown
06-10-2013, 05:34 AM
Because I had that above "soundtrack" in lossless.

tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 05:35 AM
It’s a La-La Land release. Mine is put into supposed chronological order, based on a post at a web site. But the music itself is untouched. I am packing now, Sparky.

:bearclap:


Amanda
06-10-2013, 05:35 AM
More and more tv shows are supplementing VA songs for scorework, if not outright replacing them. If you like the "moody" thing for supes, you may like it.

Biggs v.2
06-10-2013, 05:35 AM
Sorry, but you’re a cold heartless human if track 17 doesn’t get your heart pumping and teary-eyed…. This score is amazing, that is all.

Amanda
06-10-2013, 05:40 AM
?? We had better, more emotional synth at my high school prom.

Lockdown
06-10-2013, 05:42 AM
There was a lossless post of that Smallville score that you’re talking about..but the Gamefront links are dead.

Amanda
06-10-2013, 05:44 AM
There are bits of the score I enjoy. And I don’t hate it. But I find **nothin** to connect to on an emotional level in any of of it. Though yet again, outside of the film, who knows.

Although I would posit that if the "tender" cues did not connect, and the "action" cues felt bland, and the "dark" cues put me to sleep, then the score fails in it’s main objective of amplifying the on-screen visuals. It is not the visial’s job to amplify the music…dig? **for me** (why do we have to keep emphasising that? **ducks**..oh yea..)


Joseph
06-10-2013, 05:45 AM
Sure, Tarantino has some hits. But very obscure.
I like his older work much more.
Kill Bill Vol. 1 was fun, but mostly seemed like a very large project that a college student would do for grades and marks.

That basically describes his whole filmography. The only movie of his I’ve actually seen is "Inglorious Bastards", which was very deserving of its Best Picture nomination. Tarantino’s actually a huge fan of "Superman Returns". Every once in a while he talks about writing a 20-page review for it. To date, he hasn’t delivered.


Amanda
06-10-2013, 05:45 AM
There was a lossless post of that Smallville score that you’re talking about..but the Gamefront links are dead.

It’s alright. He can listen to the 320, and if he likes it we can hunt down the lossless. God knows if he can tolerate this cra…err..score in 160k…..


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 05:45 AM
Right now, I can’t discern names from numbers as I have this soundtrack playing in the background.
I got Foobar in the task tray and disabled pop-ups so I won’t be able to say what track is what unless I open it up and read it all.

I did that for This Is Madness and If You Love These People.

GameFront. I’ve never had problems with that host up here in the Canadas.


Lockdown
06-10-2013, 05:47 AM
Plus I’m trying to help him out because he’s helped me out with a lot of things, I want to try and return the favor..

Amanda
06-10-2013, 05:50 AM
Right now, I can’t discern names from numbers as I have this soundtrack playing in the background.
I got Foobar in the task tray and disabled pop-ups so I won’t be able to say what track is what unless I open it up and read it all.

I did that for This Is Madness and If You Love These People.

GameFront. I’ve never had problems with that host up here in the Canadas.

17 is What are You Going To Do?

Here you go, Sparky:

http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0WF7S7GB/baby_aliens_in_kansas_.rar_links

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I’m out, DSparks. Good to read you. You too, cody and Lockdown.


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-10-2013, 05:58 AM
then the score fails in it’s main objective of amplifying the on-screen visuals.

You should grab a few episodes of Star Wars: Clone Wars (the new CG ones) with the original 5.1 audio.
Make sure you have FFDShow installed (comes with virtually every codec pack there is: CCP, KLite, etc).
Set it support all available raw formats of audio and AC3 as well. It will decode the AC3 and play it back as PCM.
Go to the "Volume" configuration and hit the "S" on the center channel.

…it is an S on this world~
It’s to make the center channel "solo" and mute the other channels.

The Clone Wars can hold well on their own without Kevin Kiner.
I’ve actually watched a whole season without Kevin Kiner and still got emotionally attached to the show and its characters.

It was just as great and fun with Kevin Kiner too.

The series is well crafted.
Zack Snyder needs all the help he can get these days.
His slow motion hinders him.
He needs people like Tyler Bates and Hans Zimmer to solidify his artistry in slow motion and very slow stories that evolve around action.
Watchmen was a fine film. If you limit yourself to watch it only once a year.
Dawn of the Dead, you can watch every day.
300 every 6 months. :erm: If you forget about Elliot Goldenthal…

That basically describes his whole filmography. The only movie of his I’ve actually seen is "Inglorious Bastards", which was very deserving of its Best Picture nomination. Tarantino’s actually a huge fan of "Superman Returns". Every once in a while he talks about writing a 20-page review for it. To date, he hasn’t delivered.

At first it sounds like you did watch his films but then you say you didn’t.
He’s really changed his style after he did Jackie Brown.
He was much more brilliant when he did Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction.

It’s alright. He can listen to the 320, and if he likes it we can hunt down the lossless. God knows if he can tolerate this cra…err..score in 160k…..

:laugh: I really looked past myself just so I can hear it today and not wait any longer for higher resolutions. :laugh:

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Plus I’m trying to help him out because he’s helped me out with a lot of things, I want to try and return the favor..

Patience, young padawan. The time will come~ 🙂

Here you go, Sparky:

http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0WF7S7GB/baby_aliens_in_kansas_.rar_links

———- Post added at 09:50 PM ———- Previous post was at 09:50 PM ———-

I’m out, DSparks. Good to read you. You too, cody and Lockdown.

:bearclap: Ty, ty. Take care.
I’m off to get things sorted. I’ve a lot of projects to do.
And so little Zimmer to do them to. :169:


Valyrious
06-10-2013, 06:08 AM
Here’s a mirror.

http://ul.to/yxm749vu


Joseph
06-10-2013, 06:22 AM
At first it sounds like you did watch his films but then you say you didn’t.

It’s the impression I get from discussions read and overheard about his movies. "Reservoir Dogs is Tarantino’s spin on the heist film. Jackie Brown is Tarantino’s take on blacksploitation. Kill Bill is Tarantino’s samurai spaghetti whatever. etc etc" People tend to discuss his movies in terms of other movies.


Biggs v.2
06-10-2013, 06:46 AM
?? We had better, more emotional synth at my high school prom.

I’m sorry, I just can’t take you seriously anymore.


ReverseGravity
06-10-2013, 06:49 AM
Between me and ffshrine, Hans Zimmer is my go-to composer when all I want is the "generic" wall of sound. It turns me on and I want to have ear sex all night long with his music.

the gus bus
06-10-2013, 06:56 AM
Don’t get me wrong, I love the more adrenaline "zimmer-like" action tracks on this album just as much as the next guy…. but i really dig the quieter tracks on this! "This is Clark Kent" is fucking beautiful

DemonStar89
06-10-2013, 06:58 AM
Thanks. 🙂

I haven’t listened to this yet, but looking at the waveform it appears that they actually mastered it properly this time, without succumbing to the loudness war. That’s remarkable nowadays.


licenturion
06-10-2013, 07:13 AM
It’s interesting to see and read opinions of this. Positive and negative.

I have listened to the album three times now and people kept saying "Don’t judge the album of some short samples and a leaked trailer music track". But actually my judgement is totally the same. If you heard the 2 tracks leaked in advance and the samples you basically heard everything there is to it to these 118 minutes of music.

It’s not bad. It’s not good either. Personally I have my themes rather a bit more complex (like the London Calling / Ode To Harrisson to name a very recent example). It’s just a sad trend to know that most of the score is recorded with an actual orchestra. It totally doesn’t sound like that anymore. But that is the new trend in scoring these days and we have to live with it. Same goes for trailer music. Back in the beginning with the ‘Themes for orchestra 1 + 2’ series it all sounded like a real orchestra with a real 60 piece choir. These days trailer music all sounds like…well this score ^^

At least it’s a good score to listen when I do my workouts with all the percussion and repetition. Makes me run faster :p
I do like Zimmer though. Samurai, Pirates 3, King Arthur, Sherlock 1, Da Vinci Code where great scores.

Best track of this one: If You Love These People


GrannyGooz
06-10-2013, 07:40 AM
I really took it to heart to listen and withstand this generic Zimmer rehash score to avoid sleeping and finish it from start to finish. So here’s what i thought aside from too much reference to TDKR’s "Gotham’s reckoning" it’s rather monotonous and boring. Too much Zimmering silences which does not add depth to the music but rather just extend the music where it’s needed i would think. Not even a single cue could save this from mediocrity that includes the nice but short piano motif that could have made the difference but to no avail. I would call it more like 75% ambient effects and 25% music. No heroic nor memorable theme either to boot to mark it’s own against the JW Superman theme.
To be fair it’s not that bad, But not great either!!
Ready now for recycle bin!! :p

tom_1984
06-10-2013, 07:48 AM
Yea, Sparks. I have it, I’ll pm you. Not lossless though, sorry. 🙁

But, "a flying alien" is NOT what Superman is about. It is ABOUT the Kansas farmboy, who incidentally **happens** to be a flying alien. The Kent, the farmboy values are what keeps him from killing us dead, outta shere boredom.

Like the Bill said in KB2 – it’s not a man dressed like a superhero, it’s a superhero dressed up like a man.


Mino_Dan
06-10-2013, 07:56 AM
Really enjoyed the score. MUCH better than that campy cheery 70s nonsense that Williams stans have been raving about for the last 40 years!

Cpt Rex Kramer
06-10-2013, 07:57 AM
Thanks for the share, licenturion. BTW, has anyone else preordered the deluxe edition for the DTS download? I did and am looking forward to listening to the score with surround sound through a pair of headphones.

Rocklegend2000
06-10-2013, 08:11 AM
But, as mentioned before, Williams’ themes, and that style, will not work with the type of film this is going to be. Looking at trailers and sneak peeks, this film is much darker and more action oriented, with a more modern style of editing. The classic 70 & 80’s Williams would fail miserably in a film like this, I think.

I???ve seen the movie and you couldn???t be so wrong…. Williams themes kept running through my head…… Zimmer just fails at every level……..


GrannyGooz
06-10-2013, 08:18 AM
I???ve seen the movie and you couldn???t be so wrong…. Williams themes kept running through my head…… Zimmer just fails at every level……..

Makes sense. I haven’t seen the film yet but somehow a reference or an upgraded version of such JW Superman theme fused with Zimmer’s style might have work.


theodred27
06-10-2013, 08:22 AM
Man of Steel by zimmer is the score the movie deserves but not the one we need to remember. I wish it was the score that would change the Zimmerian sound to a more "new" sound. It fails and it’s even more sad considering the fact that it’s going to be a trilogy; maybe the help from James Newton Howard would have pushed the introspective aspect of the score which ,as well, fails in developing certain ideas. However our judgement cannot be definitive since we havent seen the movie nor heard all the score and that’s why the recording sessions are to be found ( which I highly doubt it will )

GrannyGooz
06-10-2013, 08:27 AM
Man of Steel by zimmer is the score the movie deserves but not the one we need to remember. I wish it was the score that would change the Zimmerian sound to a more "new" sound. It fails and it’s even more sad considering the fact that it’s going to be a trilogy; maybe the help from James Newton Howard would have pushed the introspective aspect of the score which ,as well, fails in developing certain ideas…

For once I might actually be siding with you on this matter. Agreed!


licenturion
06-10-2013, 08:38 AM
It’s Zimmer month cause in 2 weeks ‘Lone Ranger’ will come out. I wonder how that would sound.

Munki7
06-10-2013, 08:45 AM
Thank you

scrat28
06-10-2013, 08:49 AM
I really took it to heart to listen and withstand this generic Zimmer rehash score to avoid sleeping and finish it from start to finish. So here’s what i thought aside from too much reference to TDKR’s "Gotham’s reckoning" it’s rather monotonous and boring. Too much Zimmering silences which does not add depth to the music but rather just extend the music where it’s needed i would think. Not even a single cue could save this from mediocrity that includes the nice but short piano motif that could have made the difference but to no avail. I would call it more like 75% ambient effects and 25% music. No heroic nor memorable theme either to boot to mark it’s own against the JW Superman theme.
To be fair it’s not that bad, But not great either!!
Ready now for recycle bin!! :p

I think you can go to filmtracks and post your review there, they’ll be delighted to read it. Actually there ARE themes (at least 3 different) and the whole soundtrack is very heroic, powerful, sometimes violent yet melodic (in my opinion!).

Nobody seems to notice it but the drums sound is the biggest i’ve ever heard. You really can hear why he recorded it with 12 drummers together! I think the drums and guitars add a lot.


talent
06-10-2013, 08:57 AM
If interested, here’s the 256kbps Deluxe Version I found floating around:

http://ul.to/3cxlmr06


Amanda
06-10-2013, 09:00 AM
Big drums does not mean good. Or bad.

All I am saying is that this is not a great score. Nor is it the worst ever. Why does that have to translate to one of us is right or wrong? Really, when did just talking about music become more like warfare?


SmurfmanSassafras
06-10-2013, 09:08 AM
i’m enjoying this album

http://24.media.tumblr.com/5e0021dce6226d67bce5b2af6d20a37d/tumblr_mh5hwsa90u1rg6pruo1_400.gif


sorei
06-10-2013, 09:11 AM
a matter of taste, like always….
people have always liked quarreling about topics.

actually i often like drums 😀


licenturion
06-10-2013, 09:18 AM
a matter of taste, like always….
people have always liked quarreling about topics.

Well Zimmer always seem to start to biggest quarrels. Dunno: does he have more haters than other composers or does he have more vocal defenders/fans


Amanda
06-10-2013, 09:21 AM
I would put forth that Horner conversations often get just as polarized.

Sorei, I too like drummers..err.drums. It’s the sticks…..

———- Post added at 01:21 AM ———- Previous post was at 01:19 AM ———-

Now, normally I say that sound quality doesn’y matter on my tiny speaker system. But, perhaps with this score, increased bit rate/quality will truly make a difference?


Mario24Soundtrack
06-10-2013, 09:24 AM
Really enjoyed the score. MUCH better than that campy cheery 70s nonsense that Williams stans have been raving about for the last 40 years!

Man, are you crazy? xd………
You should be careful with your comments. An asteroid could fall at yout home…

IMHO, Zimmer score is really good and it fits with the movie (it’s a different thing than John Williams and 1977 version, which is better music and a better main theme, that’s obvious)

PD: What are you Going to do when you’re not Saving the World? MAGNIFICENT.


RadikKolacek
06-10-2013, 09:30 AM
Movie of the year, could be. score of the year? Meh> lol

And why not? It’s my opinion and no one will take it from me 😛 😉


Amanda
06-10-2013, 09:32 AM
I think, people forget that DC Comics, and Superman in particular, are **meant** to be more cheerful. That underside of goodness, and brightness is essential to the character. There is no such thing as a "grim" Superman. Not long term, and when it has happened, there have always been repercussions. But essentially, Clark is a fairly stable guy. Good job. Good public opinion. Married, stable relationship. And in the newer generations, still has parents and a good home life. Really. And so there is no "angst" or such. He really IS a boyscout too. The character truly lives those values, so applying that to his musical persona is entirely appropriate, perhaps even vital. Those homespun values are what connects us to him. Otherwise he is just too alien. But because of the Kents, and their values, he becomes human. That may sound "cheesy", but it’s just the deal with this character, and by extension, a lot of the DC universe. The Marvel universe is totally different, and the music ought be too.

scrat28
06-10-2013, 09:33 AM
Really enjoyed the score. MUCH better than that campy cheery 70s nonsense that Williams stans have been raving about for the last 40 years!

It’s harsh… but somehow i agree on that. Yesterday i discovered Superman Returns, and wow. The score alone made it look like it was made in the 60s. A bit sad for a big budget action movie relying on special effects…

But i guess it’s only a matter of taste. Some people are still thinking that any music that wasn’t recorded with an actual intrument isn’t real music, i understand why they hate HZ!


eglia
06-10-2013, 09:36 AM
STOP judging the album, we all know how zimmer albums are, they have suites and different versions, compare pirates 2 and 4 and tdkr the albums compared to the sessions missed so much and this will be the case for mos JUDGE THE SESSIONS WHEN YOU HEAR THEM IN THE FILM NOT THE ALBUM THAT CLEARLY HAS SO MUCH MISSING.

Amanda
06-10-2013, 09:44 AM
Superman Returns tried that moral ambiguity "where do I fit in" thing. Clark knows better than that. He came to terms with that the minute he stepped up to the mantle. And, I do not really think he’d leave Earth unprotected like that, to explore a burnt husk. And while I am here, what’s the deal with that? I saw in the making of book that there were a few scenes regarding Krypton lite, and yet I have never seen a cut of the movie with those scenes in it? And why would it even still be there if the sun had gone nova? It is all very odd. But, anyhoo. The film tried to incorporate itself into the 79 movie; into it’s timeline and "feel". So, the style of filming, the sets, the music, all of it were designed to be in line with the frame of the original. That was done on purpose. It just backfired, is all.

———- Post added at 01:44 AM ———- Previous post was at 01:39 AM ———-

STOP judging the album, we all know how zimmer albums are, they have suites and different versions, compare pirates 2 and 4 and tdkr the albums compared to the sessions missed so much and this will be the case for mos JUDGE THE SESSIONS WHEN YOU HEAR THEM IN THE FILM NOT THE ALBUM THAT CLEARLY HAS SO MUCH MISSING.

I agree in a way. But, this is representative of the sound, and "judging" is not quite the term. It is critiquing, and is perfectly valid. I do not for the life of me see the threat of talking about musical tastes. I am a Horner fan, but i hardly get threatened by the idea others don’t like his work. (I know, some do) There is NO harm in discussing the score on it’s merits whatsoever. Except in that anyone on the fence about buying it have a bounty of comments to weigh. Other than that, no harm is being done. Or, are we to have an entire thread of "this is the best" comments? Where is the point of that? Surely even those of you LOVING the score have elements you like more than others?
?


Crossbones
06-10-2013, 09:44 AM
And why not? It’s my opinion and no one will take it from me 😛 😉

Right man! and trust me I wouldn’t even take that from you it’s all yours and just like you or anybody else for that matter we all are entitled to our own and I just wrote mine and it stays that way. 🙂


Amanda
06-10-2013, 09:47 AM
I am feeling better with it on the second pass. If You Love These People, and This Is Madness I’ll keep for sure. We’ll see. Really ambivalent about the guitars in Flight. :/

Crossbones
06-10-2013, 09:48 AM

Some people are still thinking that any music that wasn’t recorded with an actual intrument isn’t real music, i understand why they hate HZ!

You said it yourself since it’s not an actual musical instrument then it’s not music but sound effects. Hate is a bit of an exaggeration though, stating ones own opinion contradictory to the others beliefs does not constitute hate on the person.


collection
06-10-2013, 09:49 AM
Man of Steel – Hans Zimmer [Deluxe Edition] (OST) (2013)

Man of Steel
Miusic by: Hans Zimmer
Released: 2013
Format: MP3 256kbps
Size: 220 MB

Tracklista

CD1:

01. Look to the Stars [02:58]
02. Oil Rig [01:45]
03. Sent Here for a Reason [03:46]
04. DNA [03:34]
05. Goodbye My Son [02:01]
06. If You Love These People [03:22]
07. Krypton’s Last [01:58]
08. Terraforming [09:49]
09. Tornado [02:53]
10. You Die or I Do [03:13]
11. Launch [02:36]
12. Ignition [01:19]
13. I Will Find Him [02:57]
14. This is Clark Kent [03:47]
15. I Have So Many Questions [03:47]
16. Flight [04:18]
17. What Are You Going to Do When You Are Not Saving the World? [05:27]

CD2:

01. Man of Steel (Hans’ Original Sketchbook) [28:16]
02. Are You Listening, Clark? [02:49]
03. General Zod [07:21]
04. You Led Us Here [02:59]
05. This is Madness! [03:48]
06. Earth [06:11]
07. Arcade [07:25]

ul.to

http://uploaded.net/file/739xc22d/MOS-HZ.zip

freakshare.com

http://freakshare.com/files/ikqjjmo9/MOS-HZ.zip

rapidgator.net

http://rapidgator.net/file/1e8e9cda8b2d7a49d0e05ce682788d5f/MOS-HZ.zip

turbobit.net

http://turbobit.net/thsehhazvukz.html

Enjoy and Please Say Thanks 🙂


licenturion
06-10-2013, 09:49 AM
Added the 256kpbs link to first post. Thanks!

Amanda
06-10-2013, 09:50 AM
I don’t "hate" Zimmer any more than I can "love" Horner. Never met either of ’em, don’t care too….

Garage
06-10-2013, 09:52 AM
Thank you very much! 🙂

Does anybody have the FLAC or 320k version of this score?


Crossbones
06-10-2013, 09:55 AM
I don’t "hate" Zimmer any more than I can "love" Horner. Never met either of ’em, don’t care too….

I actually like that line Amanda. 🙂


Crossbones
06-10-2013, 09:57 AM
Is this an actual 256 or the upconvert of the 160kbps posted earlier?

tucot
06-10-2013, 10:05 AM
Thanks for this but yes, I’ll wait for a lossless version.

ZheParadox
06-10-2013, 10:11 AM
woh! that was fast…
i think i’ll wait for the lossless version too

jmn77
06-10-2013, 10:19 AM
Thank you very much! 🙂

Does anybody have the FLAC or 320k version of this score?
Gotta love when the very first post asks for something MORE…


mickey1971
06-10-2013, 10:22 AM
I think it’s epic….and if you see the movie…you understand why….it is an awesome fit…..btw music reminds me of crimson tide….and the other best stuff of Zimmer

Crossbones
06-10-2013, 10:25 AM
I would assume it’s an up convert of the 160kbps version since collection didn’t even bother to respond..

Amanda
06-10-2013, 10:27 AM
To me, it feels like the "themes" are ideas of themes, not completed or whole. Presumably to mature in future films. A gamble as future films are never guaranteed, but I am presuming that the intent here is similar to that of the Batman trilogy, to set up a musical universe and sound that grows each film. Is this 256 post an upconvert, or truly an upgrade?

Iambodigidy
06-10-2013, 10:29 AM
Everything that is out is based off the Spotify rip. Its good enough until the album is officially released in less than 24 hours.

Boppa25
06-10-2013, 10:38 AM
Thanks

GrannyGooz
06-10-2013, 10:43 AM
To me, it feels like the "themes" are ideas of themes, not completed or whole. Presumably to mature in future films. A gamble as future films are never guaranteed, but I am presuming that the intent here is similar to that of the Batman trilogy, to set up a musical universe and sound that grows each film?

Sadly there really isn’t much on that growing part that you mentioned but just a recycling of easily recognizable cues from his former score. With no new and remarkable music to offer it’s just like buying the same shirt but with only the varying color and in essence it’s still the same.


licenturion
06-10-2013, 10:46 AM
It seems a legit 256kpbs. Correct me if I am wrong ^^

Amanda
06-10-2013, 10:47 AM
Well, I meant perhaps an expansion and maturing of the score in subsequent Superman films, which I can’t judged, as they have not been written yet?

dnaught
06-10-2013, 10:50 AM
Fake 256K confirmed.It’s upconverted from 160K version.

GrannyGooz
06-10-2013, 10:52 AM
🙂 Dear no need to defend thyself, it’s not an attack on you. I understand what you meant it’s just that I don’t see it that way (i.e. TDK, TDKR and this) If that is what’s really happening then I would be the first to defend Zimmer no doubt about it.

sorei
06-10-2013, 10:58 AM
actually if i like a score, i do not care at all if it is "good" or "bad", i just like it. 😉

And I do like the score.
I was in doubt when listenening to the floating "Promo", but I do like the score.

@Amanda: i like "flight" a lot too….


bgray1016
06-10-2013, 11:04 AM
Thanks for this.

marcorea1
06-10-2013, 11:05 AM
i think also, we are in a postition where we take advantage of what is on offer, even me. There was a time when we would watch the film and rate the soundtrack solely on how we watch the film. Now we just listen to the scores before watching films.
We had to go out and buy the cd’s. Now we can just log in and click. This is exactly what happened to me with the TDKR. When we listen to a score before watching the film, we cant really picture why we liked the cue in the first place.

Sunderella
06-10-2013, 11:07 AM
It is not 256kbps, it’s around 160 kbps.

scrat28
06-10-2013, 11:11 AM
A good way to know if it’s ripped from the actual album is that on the album the tracks are a bit shorter (most of them flow in the next one).

Rocklegend2000
06-10-2013, 11:12 AM
Superman Returns tried that moral ambiguity "where do I fit in" thing. Clark knows better than that. He came to terms with that the minute he stepped up to the mantle. And, I do not really think he’d leave Earth unprotected like that, to explore a burnt husk. And while I am here, what’s the deal with that? I saw in the making of book that there were a few scenes regarding Krypton lite, and yet I have never seen a cut of the movie with those scenes in it? And why would it even still be there if the sun had gone nova? It is all very odd. But, anyhoo. The film tried to incorporate itself into the 79 movie; into it’s timeline and "feel". So, the style of filming, the sets, the music, all of it were designed to be in line with the frame of the original. That was done on purpose. It just backfired, is all.

———- Post added at 01:44 AM ———- Previous post was at 01:39 AM ———-

I agree in a way. But, this is representative of the sound, and "judging" is not quite the term. It is critiquing, and is perfectly valid. I do not for the life of me see the threat of talking about musical tastes. I am a Horner fan, but i hardly get threatened by the idea others don’t like his work. (I know, some do) There is NO harm in discussing the score on it’s merits whatsoever. Except in that anyone on the fence about buying it have a bounty of comments to weigh. Other than that, no harm is being done. Or, are we to have an entire thread of "this is the best" comments? Where is the point of that? Surely even those of you LOVING the score have elements you like more than others?
?

Supeman Returns is 10 times the movie Man of Steel is……. what I saw was a studio trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice…..Nolan….Goyer…..Zimmer………….Ba tman….. it just didn???t work…… Henry Cavill and Superman deserved more than what they got….. This movie is aimed at those who don???t give a shit about story nor Character….. actually thinking about it the Story just didn???t make sense……. Hate on Singer and Superman Returns all ye want but that film had Heart and Soul……. and had a great theme to it….yes there were aspects of Superman which felt strange like spying on Lois but I put that down to Clarks and Superman Human side….remember he was raised by Jonathan and Martha Kent for fuck sake …… I will say this that Amy Adams is the best thing in MOS…. even though she has nothing really to do in the movie…..don???t worry I???m not gonna spoil the movie for anyone……

As for Zimmer……….. well he???s a Hack always has been and always will be……. any composer who needs 12 fuckin credited or uncredited ghost writers to finish and write a score is a Hack Imo…. someone who is not up to the job…… what Zimmer is is a great PR marketing guy….. for example…. 12 drummers on MOS…… GETTING THE PUBLIC TO CHANT TO BE ON A Batman score…………… all Marketing gimmicks which serve no purpose in musical terms…. Zimmer unfortunately is here to stay because in an industry artistically fucked he does what the studios want……… as consumers we are fucked to high heaven which is why I live be this moto……………

LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO WASTE LISTENING TO HANS FUCKIN???ZIMMERS……SHITE……………………. …..

Ahhh made me feel better………………. now I???m gonna put on Some John Williams ………….. Superman ……………. oh that March……………… I feel I can fuckin fly


Rad???Max
06-10-2013, 11:13 AM
can’t say much yet on the score as a stand alone album and as a music on the films’ context i still have to see it this week and yeah that would be opening day!! can’t wait!! 😀

thanks for this share!


licenturion
06-10-2013, 11:16 AM
So it’s upscaled then?
EncSpot said is was real…

marcorea1
06-10-2013, 11:17 AM
i also loved returns. i dont get why people didnt like it. it was a true follow up from superman 2 and stayed loyal to the series. the only gripe i had was his son, but i still loved it. And when the begining credits came up like they did, i was like a child again.

Rad???Max
06-10-2013, 11:28 AM
i personally like SR, the score and the special effects. it doesn’t bother me much that Supes now had a son and has to contend with the fact that the world has moved on without him as the worlds protector. what it lacks is the long awaited action packed film that would showcase how he struggles and deals with the Villains. Luthor had been his nemesis for most of the series had they opted to add Brainiac or Mongol or any other heavyweights to contend with then the package might have been complete and we might not even have MOS right now. as to the aspect of the music personally i like and commend what John Ottman did in his works on SR. Power of the Sun and Saving Metropolis is still a favorite and is included up to now in my playlist.

eglia
06-10-2013, 11:35 AM
i also loved returns. i dont get why people didnt like it. it was a true follow up from superman 2 and stayed loyal to the series. the only gripe i had was his son, but i still loved it. And when the begining credits came up like they did, i was like a child again.

I loved the movie but it was a complete let down as it had the potential to be what Man of steel will be – Superman not just lifting up and stopping huge objects from hitting people but rather actually having a villain to fight and the sense of a real threat not some idiotic idea where a guy makes a portion of the world look like krypton (embarrassing and stupid plot if you ask me). Bryan Singer failed when he just re-created the 78 film for 2006, literally the EXACT same movie my god he could have continued from Superman 2 and given the guy a proper villain to deal with like Braniac or Doomsday and not having the world’s greatest hero end up in hospital – WHAT AN IDIOTIC ENDING.

But as far as the score goes, John Ottman did an amazing job but enough with all that and Based on the MOS album were are finally going to get a proper Superman film, the much needed reboot like Batman Begins after the punishable by death Batman & Robin.


Crossbones
06-10-2013, 11:40 AM
Supeman Returns is 10 times the movie Man of Steel is……. what I saw was a studio trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice…..Nolan….Goyer…..Zimmer………….Ba tman….. it just didn???t work…… Henry Cavill and Superman deserved more than what they got….. This movie is aimed at those who don???t give a shit about story nor Character….. actually thinking about it the Story just didn???t make sense……. Hate on Singer and Superman Returns all ye want but that film had Heart and Soul……. and had a great theme to it….yes there were aspects of Superman which felt strange like spying on Lois but I put that down to Clarks and Superman Human side….remember he was raised by Jonathan and Martha Kent for fuck sake …… I will say this that Amy Adams is the best thing in MOS…. even though she has nothing really to do in the movie…..don???t worry I???m not gonna spoil the movie for anyone……

As for Zimmer……….. well he???s a Hack always has been and always will be……. any composer who needs 12 fuckin credited or uncredited ghost writers to finish and write a score is a Hack Imo…. someone who is not up to the job…… what Zimmer is is a great PR marketing guy….. for example…. 12 drummers on MOS…… GETTING THE PUBLIC TO CHANT TO BE ON A Batman score…………… all Marketing gimmicks which serve no purpose in musical terms…. Zimmer unfortunately is here to stay because in an industry artistically fucked he does what the studios want……… as consumers we are fucked to high heaven which is why I live be this moto……………

LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO WASTE LISTENING TO HANS FUCKIN???ZIMMERS……SHITE……………………. …..

Ahhh made me feel better………………. now I???m gonna put on Some John Williams ………….. Superman ……………. oh that March……………… I feel I can fuckin fly

Very straighforward and no pretentions. I like that. 2 thumbs up for that Rocklegend! You’ve already summed what needs to be said.


darth2602
06-10-2013, 11:50 AM
the deluxe cd box is superb !

but : Junkie XL ? junkie XL ? again crap remixes ?


antovolk
06-10-2013, 12:09 PM
Is that ul.to link real 256kbps or up convert from 160k?

Rocklegend2000
06-10-2013, 12:26 PM
I loved the movie but it was a complete let down as it had the potential to be what Man of steel will be – Superman not just lifting up and stopping huge objects from hitting people but rather actually having a villain to fight and the sense of a real threat not some idiotic idea where a guy makes a portion of the world look like krypton (embarrassing and stupid plot if you ask me). Bryan Singer failed when he just re-created the 78 film for 2006, literally the EXACT same movie my god he could have continued from Superman 2 and given the guy a proper villain to deal with like Braniac or Doomsday and not having the world’s greatest hero end up in hospital – WHAT AN IDIOTIC ENDING.

But as far as the score goes, John Ottman did an amazing job but enough with all that and Based on the MOS album were are finally going to get a proper Superman film, the much needed reboot like Batman Begins after the punishable by death Batman & Robin.

Have you seen Superman 1 and 2…… if so you???ve seen MOS ……..

You do know that Superman is virtually indestructible…… What Singer did was raise the stakes hence The Son element….also it???s theme is directed from Superman 1 The father becomes the Son…… The Son becomes the Father…. somethin like that…. Singer imo would???ve used The Son as a way to get at Superman….. it???s what the movies have done since Donner???s 78 Superman….. MOS is no different….. in fact it fails at every level in this…..you don???t care for any of the Characters even Superman…..I will say this that Nothing in MOS compares to the Airplane Scene in Superman Returns…… there???s only so much times ya can watch shite blow up….. I???ve seen everything in MOS in Matrix Revolutions…. so I applaud Singer go the opposite dirrection….watchin Superman do Superfeats because we care about the people he???s saving is more worth while than watchin Aliens Blow up a City because…well I won???t spoil it for ya…… hence why the 3 way fight in Donners Superman 2 movie is epic….. it???s about Superman???s human side imo……

I agree with the Luthor Superman Returns….He should???ve been a meglomaniac which would???ve hurt Superman even more for leaving all behind


Tchaikovsky
06-10-2013, 12:28 PM
I don’t care if it’s @160 or 256; I’m just curious! So: thank you!! 🙂

Mino_Dan
06-10-2013, 12:54 PM
Any MoS review looses any kind of merit if the reviewer pretends that Superman Returns was decent movie.

I mean really?! Superman Returns?! How fucking lame is that!!!


pantomima1975
06-10-2013, 01:02 PM
Thank you very much!

DjawadiFan
06-10-2013, 01:12 PM
a matter of taste, like always….
people have always liked quarreling about topics.

actually i often like drums 😀

Cause Tom Jxl did an awesome work this time so guys……… no remixes..


Rocklegend2000
06-10-2013, 01:29 PM
Any MoS review looses any kind of merit if the reviewer pretends that Superman Returns was decent movie.

I mean really?! Superman Returns?! How fucking lame is that!!!

Too much story telling for the young brain of yours too handle ….not enough of Boom Boom………explosions……5 sec cuts…….. youth of today…… we???re fuckin doomed I tell ya…..fuckin doomed


SmurfmanSassafras
06-10-2013, 01:38 PM
The obvious thing to do is name everyone who ever composed for any Superman production.
Which lacks true inspiration and imagination. It’s far too easy to do that.
The idea is to present something new.
We’ve had themes. We’ve had themes forever. But they’re not the definition of the figure. It’s not like Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster created Superman with John Williams in mind.

Zimmer’s not a monster; he’s just ahead of the curve~

I agree with you 110%

Thank you.


op-timus
06-10-2013, 01:43 PM
Thank You.

Mino_Dan
06-10-2013, 01:52 PM
Too much story telling for the young brain of yours too handle ….not enough of Boom Boom………explosions……5 sec cuts…….. youth of today…… we???re fuckin doomed I tell ya…..fuckin doomed

Story? Are you talking about this mess were an entire builiding of reporters can’t piece together that Clark Kent and Superman were both absent for exactly 5 years?
Were Lex Luthor fucks almost dead women for their money and comes up with the most obnoxious and downright stupid ploy to become rich with Kryptonian rock real estate?
Or the fact that Kryptonite only seems to be lethal for Supes when HE FEELS LIKE IT?
Where the heroes hideout is completly open for anyone to enter in his absence?
Where a court has to set free a mad man because the Superhero that catched him wasn’t around?
Where a superhero can throw an entire continent into space but struggles with saving a freaking passanger plane?!
Where the feisty reporter brings her 5 year old spawn on a boat that she KNOWS is the epicenter of the blackout, and of course leave her fucking phone in the car!

That movie even insults the intelligence of fruit flies!!!





Joseph
06-10-2013, 01:56 PM
Superman Returns tried that moral ambiguity "where do I fit in" thing. Clark knows better than that. He came to terms with that the minute he stepped up to the mantle. And, I do not really think he’d leave Earth unprotected like that, to explore a burnt husk. And while I am here, what’s the deal with that? I saw in the making of book that there were a few scenes regarding Krypton lite, and yet I have never seen a cut of the movie with those scenes in it? And why would it even still be there if the sun had gone nova? It is all very odd. But, anyhoo. The film tried to incorporate itself into the 79 movie; into it’s timeline and "feel". So, the style of filming, the sets, the music, all of it were designed to be in line with the frame of the original. That was done on purpose. It just backfired, is all.[COLOR="Silver"]
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"Superman Returns" was a very messy production. What you mentioned was a very expensive scene that got discarded because it didn’t add anything to the plot. It can be found on YouTube, if you want to check it out. Another example of the movie’s sloppiness: the Smallville section was supposed to be a lot longer. Clark was supposed to find out his mother was dating, and was supposed to find six years of Daily Planet issues to catch up with the times. At least that unused material wasn’t as expensive as the Krypton sequence. There was also supposed to be a subplot that explained why Superman suspected Krypton could have survived the explosion. Turns out one of Lex Luthor’s henchmen (Kal Penn) messed with some astronomical data, to trick Supes into leaving the planet. Speaking of Kal, his character had more lines in the script. I think he was originally envisioned to be this movie’s equivalent of Otis, but they didn’t know what to do with him.


Rocklegend2000
06-10-2013, 02:01 PM
[QUOTE=Mino_Dan;2371477]Story? Are you talking about this mess were an entire builiding of reporters can’t piece together that Clark Kent and Superman were both absent for exactly 5 years?
Were Lex Luthor fucks almost dead women for their money and comes up with the most obnoxious and downright stupid ploy to become rich with Kryptonian rock real estate?
Or the fact that Kryptonite only seems to be lethal for Supes when HE FEELS LIKE IT?
Where the heroes hideout is completly open for anyone to enter in his absence?
Where a court has to set free a mad man because the Superhero that catched him wasn’t around?
Where a superhero can throw an entire continent into space but struggles with saving a freaking passanger plane?!
Where the feisty reporter brings her 5 year old spawn on a boat that she KNOWS is the epicenter of the blackout, and of course leave her fucking phone in the car!

That movie even insults the intelligence of fruit flies!!![/QUOT

So I take it you don???t like any Superman movie….right………. A bunch of reprters can???t even figure out who Clark Kent is from only wearing sunglasses

All that you???ve listed above will be fixed in MOS………HA HA HA HA HA LOL……..

Nothing in MOS compares to the beating and humiliation Superman receives at the hands of Luthor in Returns


Amanda
06-10-2013, 02:10 PM
Which brings me to a favorite line in Lois & Clark, from the people come back from the future, addressing the idea that Lois took ssooooooo long to figure it out: "people always wanted to know, and now we can find out…..how dumb WAS she?" (Or something around those lines)

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I have always maintained Clark needs training in the cave with Bats. Even Robin could have taken those goons. And, shanked in the back. How fucking undignified is that? Really highlights Luthor’s "good side" though. Still, it would seem he was strong enough to lift the island with a piece still in him. I think that is supposed to show the strength of his resolution, and the level of sacrifice he’ll go to. I wanna know how they got the suit off without cutting it off. Hospital personnel would not have taken the time to carefully remove it, they would have sliced it, and torn it off. Time is life, or sumsuch.


A Fire Will Rise
06-10-2013, 02:14 PM
omg thank you so much 😀 😀

eglia
06-10-2013, 02:21 PM
Have you seen Superman 1 and 2…… if so you???ve seen MOS ……..

You do know that Superman is virtually indestructible…… What Singer did was raise the stakes hence The Son element….also it???s theme is directed from Superman 1 The father becomes the Son…… The Son becomes the Father…. somethin like that…. Singer imo would???ve used The Son as a way to get at Superman….. it???s what the movies have done since Donner???s 78 Superman….. MOS is no different….. in fact it fails at every level in this…..you don???t care for any of the Characters even Superman…..I will say this that Nothing in MOS compares to the Airplane Scene in Superman Returns…… there???s only so much times ya can watch shite blow up….. I???ve seen everything in MOS in Matrix Revolutions…. so I applaud Singer go the opposite dirrection….watchin Superman do Superfeats because we care about the people he???s saving is more worth while than watchin Aliens Blow up a City because…well I won???t spoil it for ya…… hence why the 3 way fight in Donners Superman 2 movie is epic….. it???s about Superman???s human side imo……

I agree with the Luthor Superman Returns….He should???ve been a meglomaniac which would???ve hurt Superman even more for leaving all behind

Of course I’ve seen 1 and 2, they are amazing movies, superman 2 (richard donner cut) is the best superman film so far because Superman: The movie introduced the character so damn well and had him mostly doing his super feats which was necessary for a first time superman movie but in 2 he faces 3 villains who are his equal and that fight was incredible for the time but then in Superman Returns instead of upping what went before we just got the 78 film re-done with the exception of the greatest scene in any comic book movie (the plane saving scene) but that scene is never topped because no way Superman could lift a continent made of kyptonite, so no it’s 2013 and people want to see Superman doing super feats and actually fighting someone not just catching things.

Either way no one will ever be able to replace Christopher Reeve because he is Superman, he always will be imo and no welling, routh, cain or now Henry Cavill could ever top that but MOS does look like while it may not become a masterpiece, it is the Superman film so many people have been waiting for and everybody has their own opinion which needs to be respected but personally I have always loved all types of scores, I am a huge fan of both John Williams and Hans Zimmer.


Mino_Dan
06-10-2013, 02:48 PM
Oh boy, until now I never realized just how goddamn stupid all of the Superman movies were!

Fridge Logic: Superman is a Moron (Part 1) – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l-fhVATSr8)
Fridge Logic: Superman is a Moron (Part 2) – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tfoc9ezWwY)

Kinda sad as I always liked the first 2 movies!


Plutopurto
06-10-2013, 03:19 PM
Here it doesn’t seem like Zimmer has tried to reinvent or produce something new and bold, it just seems like he had a job to do and did it with as much care as you would scoring a random action flick. It might serve its purpose to add to the action elements of the film and the visuals, but a score could and can be more than that. JNH or John Powell or Giacchino (though probs not cos of his Trek and possible Wars gigs) could create the emotional undercurrents needed to make the score invoke any feeling and response to the visuals.

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His score here is for me not as memorable as Inception. But who’s to reward for that success? Zimmer or Balfe?
I still liked some of the stuff here though and I’ll probably end up buying it. No innovative work here, just some all round music that doesn’t require me having to think too much. Maybe that’s what people like about Zimmer?


jaroshulk28
06-10-2013, 03:27 PM
Thank you!

Cable23
06-10-2013, 03:39 PM
Many, many thanks!

Zeratul13
06-10-2013, 03:40 PM
thanks! i am looking also for flac, but mp3 work great for until i find it 😀

cheeseparty67
06-10-2013, 03:46 PM

Lockdown
06-10-2013, 04:01 PM
I don’t know about you guys, but Hans Zimmer did a nice job for the movie White Fang, the tracks that he contributed. You guys should listen to the Intrada edition, and listen to what he composed.

Lilu
06-10-2013, 04:42 PM
flight mp3 320 (source what.cd)

https://mega.co.nz/#!FYV3nTTT!W6wqcEcxMxku0GGVRyf-sUDtbI9iDeIWemKJt3gOCP4


antovolk
06-10-2013, 04:51 PM
Thanks Lilu, hoping for real FLAC or 320 soon…

Shinazu
06-10-2013, 04:56 PM
Thanks!!!!

Cornelius&Zira
06-10-2013, 04:57 PM
Thank You. Superman is my favorite SuperHero.

theodred27
06-10-2013, 05:01 PM
To the stars sounds like a cue from call of duty with the choir from alien 3 " agnus dei"

lightstorm2010
06-10-2013, 05:04 PM
Zimmer did again. Just synthetic crapy loud noise

comicbookguy90
06-10-2013, 05:09 PM
Thanks a ton for this!!! I’m dying to listen to this!

Drunkenmunkey
06-10-2013, 05:14 PM
I’m waiting for the FLAC version. Argo, fuck yourself

HansCastorpMM
06-10-2013, 05:14 PM
So now that this score has finally leaked, after a quick listen through of portions of the tracks, fans can rest assured that not a single bloody reference to John Williams’ classic Superman remains intact. Every technique that Zimmer has employed in his career is present here meaning you get basically another rehash with nothing really new to offer. Does that mean it’s bad? No, not necessarily but it’s definitely NOT as memorable as the original. Honestly, there are no themes that scream to me to repeat it even though I no doubt will.

That leads me to my next point: I wish directors would stop and question why Hans Zimmer is the busiest composer in Hollywood right now because his output is never consistent nor is it consistently listenable. Sometimes he does go on autopilot therefore making it a safe gamble for fans (and maybe directors, too?) that are afraid that Zimmer will screw up another classic theme with his "themes" but so far, for every 1 good "original" score he does, he follows the next dozen up with either a rehash of a popular theme or motif of his with little to no development or it just becomes a repetitious bore of a mess.

Fans scoff all you want at my next comment but I disliked The Dark Knight trilogy scores for that exact reason. Batman Begins was good because at the time he actually built on his trademark sounds while simply rehashing the same material for the sequels. The new Joker theme for The Dark Knight score can’t even musically be considered a theme because there’s nothing melodic about a one-note sound effect. It’s effective but it’s not enough to keep the score moving along at a nice pace. It’s just a simple sound effect that starts out very low and just increases in volume and intensity but not leaving you with a theme that you’ll be humming at the end of the movie.

I attribute the success of the first two scores of the trilogy to James Newton Howard’s contributions. James Newton Howard, a man with actual musical and melodic talent, helped even out the overall tone of the scores for the first two movies but his exclusion from The Dark Knight Rises proved very detrimental since the only new theme introduced into TDKR was for Bane which wasn’t nearly as fascinating as the development stories led us to believe it would be. The Bane chant was impressive but there was NO, that’s right ZERO ZILCH NADA, development on it. The Joker motif actually got some sort of progression in the end. It just popped up at random times only to be replaced with dull underscore and repetitive action music from the first two films along with the multiple reprises of the "Dark Knight" theme that I swore if I heard blast from my speakers one more bloody time I was gonna poke my ears out with hot pokers. Predictably he repeated it no less than 4 or 5 times throughout the nearly 3 hour film but despite that, my ears were not gouged out with hot pokers but I also lost quite a bit of interest when it kept getting repeated over and over again. There was no development so you pretty much knew where the score was leading with each preceding cue. Don’t get me wrong, it did have its moments (the first few instances of the Bane theme and the extremely minimalistic and underdeveloped theme for Catwoman) but those moments were overshadowed by Zimmer’s insistent repetition.

Inception is a rare score in that I actually LOVED the themes for it BUT like every other score he’s done for the last 5-10 years, he repeats the same themes ad nauseum. There is the occasional development but in most cases, it’s basically a cut and paste job.

Sherlock Holmes 1 & 2 are the only two scores of his that I can find little to no fault with since he went all out for that score and created an entirely new sound that unfortunately hasn’t really been heard much in his post-Sherlock works. Why doesn’t he take a cue from himself and do something like that again? Better yet, why doesn’t he get more work like that? He’s NOT a composer that I think is meant for big Hollywood action films. He reminds me of a high class Tyler Bates. The only difference is Tyler Bates offers interesting ambient sounds while also introducing new action sounds. Go through Tyler Bates’ resume over the last 10 years and you will notice that he is a very diverse composer that doesn’t get himself lodged in a genre niche and refuse to leave it. He explores other genres and expands on his musical style even if he did blatantly rip-off music from Elliot Goldenthal’s Titus in his score for 300. At least it was a pleasant rip-off. Zimmer lodges himself in the big action movies niche with an occasional comedy, kids movie or drama when things are slow in his career. I think he needs to step away from the big action movie genre for a while, work on a few dozen smaller films to develop a little bit of humanity to his scores than in currently being demonstrated.

After all is said and done, I will definitely be seeing Man of Steel in IMAX 3D because honestly, that is the single best way to enjoy Zimmer’s big action scores: within the confines of the movies themselves but otherwise outside of the film, they come across very bland, heavily inspired and largely uninteresting.

There is further proof that talent does still exist in Hollywood but with how Zimmer seems to be taking a big slice of the Hollywood composer cake, we may never get to experience another composer’s work that isn’t overshadowed by Zimmer for probably many years. Until that time comes, I will give each new Zimmer score a listen or two then promptly delete them off my hard drive.

To the Zimmerites out there, you go on and continue eating your bitter Zimmer pie while I have a slice of the sweet stuff. If THIS is the future of music, I think I’ll keep looking back in the past. At least there, entertainment is guaranteed.

OK, gotta ask .. (yes, i am a die hard zimmerite, and yes, some points you make are valid, but I might consider some of zimmer’s scores junk food…I know it’s not healthy, or bio, or sweet, but i am addicted to it). But I gotta ask…what about The Last Samurai and / or The Thin red line? Where do they fit in your rant?


tony555555
06-10-2013, 05:18 PM
Fake 256K confirmed.It’s upconverted from 160K version.

how do you check the real kbps?? what software do you use?? thanksss 😀


nachito_pop
06-10-2013, 05:23 PM
Use Spek ? Free Acoustic Spectrum Analyzer / Spectrogram Viewer (http://spek.cc/) is more easy that adobe audition

marcorea1
06-10-2013, 05:36 PM
OK, gotta ask .. (yes, i am a die hard zimmerite, and yes, some points you make are valid, but I might consider some of zimmer’s scores junk food…I know it’s not healthy, or bio, or sweet, but i am addicted to it). But I gotta ask…what about The Last Samurai and / or The Thin red line? Where do they fit in your rant?

Good point, but for me it’s like brushing my teeth then having an orange juice straight after it. I do regret listening before Watching tho. Never again


Killgrave
06-10-2013, 05:42 PM
One thing, well actually several things, you can say about the folks who frequent this forum: we’re consistent. We follow the same pattern of behavior almost every time:

To wit:

Step 1: Almost universal anticipation for an upcoming film and/or soundtrack. (In fact our favorite films/soundtracks are the ones still unreleased.)

Step 2: Then the film/soundtrack is released.

Step 3: Then the long knives come out.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat with the next unreleased film/soundtrack.


ZheParadox
06-10-2013, 05:54 PM
Use Spek ? Free Acoustic Spectrum Analyzer / Spectrogram Viewer (http://spek.cc/) is more easy that adobe audition

you can’t rely on a simple spectrum analyzer!
you need adobe audition!!

if i take an ALAC track from iTunes and drag it into spek it looks exactly the same way with an AAC i made from the previous ALAC

you have been served 😉


Mike Flaherty
06-10-2013, 05:59 PM
Thank you for your work. THIS is greatly appreciated.

DAKoftheOTA
06-10-2013, 06:02 PM
Thank you very much! 🙂

Does anybody have the FLAC or 320k version of this score?

Oh, you mean you don’t have the sessions already? Hmm…


robinhood424
06-10-2013, 06:05 PM
Thanks

Kadron
06-10-2013, 06:37 PM
listening to it now
Terraforming stands out so far
the rest is okay

Scotty57
06-10-2013, 06:38 PM
Thank You!!

Scott


jaroshulk28
06-10-2013, 06:39 PM
Thanks!

classclown
06-10-2013, 06:41 PM
Thanks for posting this. I’m curious to have a listen before buying.

Gunchips
06-10-2013, 07:26 PM
This score has to be listened and appreciated WITH the movie. Remember the first reaction we had with the score of AVATAR.

matongsai
06-10-2013, 07:28 PM
Thanks a lot.

badabidibu
06-10-2013, 07:30 PM
MASTERPICE!!! Hans did it again!!! Tornado makes me cry! Awesome!

boosterrr
06-10-2013, 08:05 PM
Am i right? no fucking suites this time!!! many thanks for sharing very good listening album too hear,i smell a new trilogy

tude
06-10-2013, 08:09 PM
Thanks for this super post!

antovolk
06-10-2013, 08:24 PM
Anyone in the US, the Deluxe Edition packages should have arrived today from Amazon for some people…I smell FLAC or proper 320k MP3 coming??

antovolk
06-10-2013, 08:24 PM
Anyone in the US, the Deluxe Edition packages should have arrived today from Amazon for some people…I smell FLAC or proper 320k MP3 coming??

rmattbill1
06-10-2013, 08:32 PM
Thank you!

marcorea1
06-10-2013, 08:46 PM
Am i right? no fucking suites this time!!! many thanks for sharing very good listening album too hear,i smell a new trilogy\

what? well shiiiiiit, no fuckin suites?! well i gonna make my own. mix is with this mix it with that and mix it with something else by junkie xl………to fill in the gaps lol

i am with you with this. i hate zimmer suites.


Kadron
06-10-2013, 08:55 PM
well we need to see the movie to know if music themes are suites or not

overall though, the soundtrack isnt bad. But not that memorable.
I am sure it works with the movie fine


repoman10001
06-10-2013, 08:58 PM
Thanks You!

Rocklegend2000
06-10-2013, 08:58 PM
Any MoS review looses any kind of merit if the reviewer pretends that Superman Returns was decent movie.

I mean really?! Superman Returns?! How fucking lame is that!!!

No way am I gonna waste my time and Breath with someone who posts something like this

Originally Posted by Mino_Dan
Really enjoyed the score. MUCH better than that campy cheery 70s nonsense that Williams stans have been raving about for the last 40 years!

Nothing more needs to be said


marcorea1
06-10-2013, 09:03 PM
Anyone in the US, the Deluxe Edition packages should have arrived today from Amazon for some people…I smell FLAC or proper 320k MP3 coming??

dont forget, anyone in the U.S is probably working right now so expect it quite late for someone to share it.


Megalith
06-10-2013, 09:09 PM
The more I listen to it, the more it sounds like some kind of demo tape or temp score.

ZheParadox
06-10-2013, 09:15 PM
dont forget, anyone in the U.S is probably working right now so expect it quite late for someone to share it.

let’s hope you’re right!

The more I listen to it, the more it sounds like some kind of demo tape or temp score.

you have to go into detail…


jaroshulk28
06-10-2013, 09:22 PM
Yeah, this score sounds a lot like Hulk.

scrat28
06-10-2013, 09:23 PM
Am i right? no fucking suites this time!!! many thanks for sharing very good listening album too hear,i smell a new trilogy

Actually the "Hans’ original sketchbook" is a suite (which brings nothing more than what’s present in the previous 17 tracks, though). And the 6 other bonus tracks are also suites/demo/tests, i suspect. But i haven’t seen the movie so i may be wrong…


Megalith
06-10-2013, 09:26 PM
I dunno, the entire album just sounds sloppy to me. There’s moments that are close to greatness, but they inevitably degrade into relentless percussion. It seems like Zimmer was winging it.

c???d???master88
06-10-2013, 09:35 PM
Is there a reason why there’s 4 different threads for this?

ZheParadox
06-10-2013, 09:39 PM
Is there a reason why there’s 4 different threads for this?

haha 😀 NO!


DjawadiFan
06-10-2013, 09:49 PM
The same rip For all different pickles !

DAKoftheOTA
06-10-2013, 10:03 PM
Is there a reason why there’s 4 different threads for this?

Because people don’t pay attention. Stupidity should be painful

And then a month from now when the links on this thread and the other one are dead, someone will upload a copy, and rather than post in here or the others, they’ll make a new thread


Rocklegend2000
06-10-2013, 10:14 PM
The more I listen to it, the more it sounds like some kind of demo tape or temp score.

You do know that the MOS has shaped film scores music for another generation and that Hollywood will ask every known composer to copy it….. such as the lunatics running the asylum……… I can hear the producers crying and shouting…. more Drums………More Drums


Amanda
06-10-2013, 10:21 PM
Of course. Then we can add a special bonus to the blu-ray featuring the 150 drummers recording the 2 minute track they are featured on. It will be a 2 hour featurette, and at the end we will still only have heard the same 30 seconds of score replayed over and over. It will be a track NOT on any edition of the albums anywhere. But at a special bonus price, you will be able to buy it as an app, at mp3 68k. However it will be a remix, with the drums accompanied by 35 kazoo players. :awsm:

germen
06-10-2013, 10:29 PM
thaaaanks !!!

xphile7777
06-10-2013, 10:34 PM
Thanks! 🙂

Logan XI
06-10-2013, 10:43 PM
Thanks for he upload! 🙂

darnbni99a
06-10-2013, 11:22 PM
thank u for the link!!!!!!!!!!!!!

namikaze
06-10-2013, 11:30 PM
Whats with all the hate, I dont get it, I love Zimmer music but I dont hate Williams. John Williams had his era where he was the king, this era belongs to Zimmer, no one can argue against that.

You dont hear people complaining about why the special effects are not like the first two Superman movies, why on earth would the music be.

For all the haters here, who hate zimmer and his music, go to Hollywood, tell them you are better composer, get hired, do better music then him, then come here to bitch and moan about it, because then you can


Plutopurto
06-11-2013, 12:14 AM
[QUOTE=nashnamikaze;2371847]Whats with all the hate, I dont get it, I love Zimmer music but I dont hate Williams. John Williams had his era where he was the king, this era belongs to Zimmer, no one can argue against that.

You dont hear people complaining about why the special effects are not like the first two Superman movies, why on earth would the music be.

For all the haters here, who hate zimmer and his music, go to Hollywood, tell them you are becomposer, get hired, do better music then him, then come here to bitch and moan about it, because then you can[/QUOTE

I’m so fucking sorry I and others share an opinion which offends or differs from you. John Williams had his era for the reason being he could compose music which everyone could recognise and enjoy. Zimmer seems to have his era by some default like he is a cheap commodity. They actually still play Williams’ work in concerts.

How dare you say I can’t have an opinion. You’ll probably just piss off and never read this thread again. Some people leave for coffee breaks or toilet breaks, but I’ll still be here respecting each person’s right to an opinion, not passively trying to defeat the purpose of a forum. Fuck off, don’t fuck off. It’s up to you, really.


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-11-2013, 12:32 AM
Is there a reason why there’s 4 different threads for this?

Language barriers.


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 12:43 AM
I have to disagree to call this the era of Zimmer is just absurd! It shouldn’t even be called Williams era in his time but rather even he is a part of the era where real geniuses (Jerry Goldsmith, Elmer Bernstein, Maurice Jarre, Georges Delerue, Alan Silvestri, James Horner, at al ) about film scores are flourishing and weaving their own magic. It’s not the hate on the man or Zimmer but on his works over amplified by marketing and hype machine but the quality is abysmal.
to nashnamikaze and to all die hard Zimmerites,

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2hweleVYK1r6f6deo1_500.gif


marcorea1
06-11-2013, 12:50 AM
I would probably class myself as a die hard zimmer fan, and as one i can even accept if I hear something bad from him. I won’t kid myself into liking something like most on here. If Hans Zimmers name was put on one of the poorest scores ever made it would still be considered a masterpiece, purely because his name is on it.

namikaze
06-11-2013, 12:56 AM
[QUOTE=nashnamikaze;2371847]Whats with all the hate, I dont get it, I love Zimmer music but I dont hate Williams. John Williams had his era where he was the king, this era belongs to Zimmer, no one can argue against that.

You dont hear people complaining about why the special effects are not like the first two Superman movies, why on earth would the music be.

For all the haters here, who hate zimmer and his music, go to Hollywood, tell them you are becomposer, get hired, do better music then him, then come here to bitch and moan about it, because then you can[/QUOTE

I’m so fucking sorry I and others share an opinion which offends or differs from you. John Williams had his era for the reason being he could compose music which everyone could recognise and enjoy. Zimmer seems to have his era by some default like he is a cheap commodity. They actually still play Williams’ work in concerts.

How dare you say I can’t have an opinion. You’ll probably just piss off and never read this thread again. Some people leave for coffee breaks or toilet breaks, but I’ll still be here respecting each person’s right to an opinion, not passively trying to defeat the purpose of a forum. Fuck off, don’t fuck off. It’s up to you, really.

When did I say you cant have an opinion, what I was referring to, which made you cry it seems, only when you have walked in someone’s shoes can you understand them, and not be so judgemental, that’s simple logic and they do play zimmers music in concerts, try youtube it can do wonders………


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 12:57 AM
…I won’t kid myself into liking something like most on here. If Hans Zimmers name was put on one of the poorest scores ever made it would still be considered a masterpiece, purely because his name is on it.

Precisely. I ain’t a fan of the man but I sure have my own favorite works of him from his earlier days to which I see real quality but now I don’t see it that way and if fans are hurting because of the contradicting opinion then you yourself are to blame for eating everything the guy throws at you even if it’s sh*t. Just saying.
Sure it’s not just zimmer music that you can see schools and repertories play there in concerts. Yup it does youtube can do wonders should one widen the horizon not just on one guy. :p


xanther10
06-11-2013, 01:02 AM
Listened to it, not impressed. I was looking forward to some great action music and all I heard were drums, quiet, drums, quiet, and more drums. When Zimmer did Gladiator, Inception, and Crimson Tide I could follow the music from beginning to end as each naturally progressed and went along with the story. Man of Steel, sounds like a constant repeat of the same drum beat over and over. I know some say that to get it you need to watch the movie along with it, but any good director, or composer will tell you that the score should compliment the movie not be a prerequisite. I know that Zimmer had a lot of pressure to come up with something if not as good as, but comparable to Williams, and as difficult as that may be it sounds like he didn’t try very hard at all. I listened to the soundtrack twice and nothing sticks out all. I like Zimmer, just not this piece of music.

pariah13
06-11-2013, 01:04 AM
[QUOTE=Plutopurto;2371860]

When did I say you cant have an opinion, what I was referring to, which made you cry it seems, only when you have walked in someone’s shoes can you understand them, and not be so judgemental, that’s simple logic and they do play zimmers music in concerts, try youtube it can do wonders………

I don’t think anyone’s judging Zimmer the person, just his talents and abilities, and you don’t need to be an artist yourself to do just that. If you’re upset with the way people are reacting to the score, then go some place where your opinion is more widely shared or don’t get yourself all tied into an angry knot. No sense in getting upset at people and their opinions.

And this is coming from a guy who likes the score (mildly, so far, I should say).


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 01:16 AM
I don’t think anyone’s judging Zimmer the person, just his talents and abilities, and you don’t need to be an artist yourself to do just that. If you’re upset with the way people are reacting to the score, then go some place where your opinion is more widely shared or don’t get yourself all tied into an angry knot. No sense in getting upset at people and their opinions.

Always been my point. Thanks for reiterating that. I know a place —– anything that has his name and all his works are glorified. just type his name, add a few more words like fan site, community, dedicated thread. I’m sure one will be pleased with most if not all of them agreeing and praising each others opinion to a tee.

And this is coming from a guy who likes the score (mildly, so far, I should say).

Most of us would agree on this one. Myself included.


Arial
06-11-2013, 01:27 AM
Hello my Granny love. Where have you been lately ?

http://65.img.v4.skyrock.net/7605/17557605/pics/556302828.gif


Drunkenmunkey
06-11-2013, 01:31 AM
:loldata:

GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 01:34 AM
Hello my Granny love. Where have you been lately ?

http://65.img.v4.skyrock.net/7605/17557605/pics/556302828.gif

Oh that’s sweet! Been busy lately chatting with fellow old timers out of town but believe it or not any chance I have to visit shrine I constantly look out for familiar names and their posts and you are in that lists. How have you been lately too dear?


Arial
06-11-2013, 01:38 AM
… Quite busy too, makes free time precious enough to forget something like this place. But always nice to meet some of you again my love.

Ahh… Those endless arguments… http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t377/mutha_nite/Smiley%20Treasure/2eyj4si_th.gif


Amanda
06-11-2013, 01:40 AM
Listened to it, not impressed. I was looking forward to some great action music and all I heard were drums, quiet, drums, quiet, and more drums. When Zimmer did Gladiator, Inception, and Crimson Tide I could follow the music from beginning to end as each naturally progressed and went along with the story. Man of Steel, sounds like a constant repeat of the same drum beat over and over. I know some say that to get it you need to watch the movie along with it, but any good director, or composer will tell you that the score should compliment the movie not be a prerequisite. I know that Zimmer had a lot of pressure to come up with something if not as good as, but comparable to Williams, and as difficult as that may be it sounds like he didn’t try very hard at all. I listened to the soundtrack twice and nothing sticks out all. I like Zimmer, just not this piece of music.

The ONLY function of a score is to serve the movie. The only function of the fx, costumes, set design and acting is to serve the director’s vision for the movie. PERIOD. Whether or not it is a pleasing score to hear on an album is NOT the primary function. It’s a nice by product, and that’s it. The story is all.

Also, I am not judging Zimmer, his skills or this score. I "hate" none of it. Being critical of it, or disliking it is not bad. Saying, "Hey, I don’t care for it" is not "hate". Backing that up by saying WHY you don’t care for it is not hate. I approach a Zimmer score no differently than any Horner or Williams score I have not heard. I don’t automatically like a score, let alone love, just because it is Horner. I like Horner’s style. But I do not proclaim every score "genius" or "epic". I do not claim he is the voice of generations.

Williams and his contemporaries deserve out utmost respect. Even if you have never liked a single score from that time. Without them being brave enough to experiment, without the directors who supported them, we would not have the scores you so enjoy now. They were the pioneers that made it possible for Zimmer and HIS generation to push forward. I don’t have to like the new styles to acknowledge that. Much as the generations before Williams may not have appreciated his style. It’s all relative.

My point is that the love of FILM SCORE as a genre has brought us, all ages and genders, together here. Surely we can simply TALK about our love of this music without bloodshed or flames. I mean, why not? I love scores from almost every composer named in this thread. I hate -yes hate – scores from them as well. So what? I do not love all Williams. I do not love all Horner. Why is it hard to say not everything Zimmer is an epic masterpiece. Why is it bad to say there are at least the occasional clunkers? What person has shit gold daily? What artists has been divine **every** time. And considering the amount of his output, what are the odds that Zimmer has never missed the mark?

MOST of us are not saying this is a terrible score, or hate it. We are saying we feel it missed the mark. Or we feel let down. So what?

**geeze**


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-11-2013, 01:42 AM
the quality is abysmal.

In your opinion.
The fans who call it the "Zimmer era" are just overzealous with their opinion as you are to yours about posting a gif over it.
:smrt:

I like it. But wouldn’t call this a "Zimmer era".
I wouldn’t call any era for that matter.

I think any "era" worth calling is the same as praising someone when their talents produced their best work for a short time.
When they peaked the highest they can in their arch.
When they can look back when they’re old and say "those were the good old days".
When they’ve outlived their welcome.

Which is not until he’s dead.
You say he’s already lived his prime, while I say he’s not.


ZheParadox
06-11-2013, 01:45 AM
@Sparktank 2.0

love the "This is my design." quote! 😀


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 01:46 AM
Correct teddybear. Sometimes it’s not the music I’m looking out from this place but the passionate debates members had and their opinions. It gives you a hint on a person how he talks without seeing his/her face and that’s exciting to me. As a matter of fact I would imagine you looking like a poster boy from a porn looking all innocent but naughty and rough. LoL (Forgive granny for that if we have minors reading this…)

Amanda
06-11-2013, 01:47 AM
Correct teddybear. Sometimes it’s not the music I’m looking out from this place but the passionate debates members had and their opinions. It gives you a hint on a person how he talks without seeing his/her face and that’s exciting to me. As a matter of fact I would imagine you looking like a poster boy from a porn looking all innocent but naughty and rough. LoL (Forgive granny for that if we have minors reading this…)

And how do you see me?

SPARKY!! Hey!

Didja listen to my present?


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 01:56 AM
In your opinion.
The fans who call it the "Zimmer era" are just overzealous with their opinion as you are to yours about posting a gif over it.
:smrt:

Well you already stated what could be my response. Opinions, opinions and opinions. Works better than peeling an onion but in essence works the same way if the person is sensitive and oblivious enough. But at the end of the day it’s still an OPINION.

Amanda,

Sorry dear I’ve already seen your avatar, but If I where to based what you look like inside judging on your posts my impression would always be the same. Accommodating, frank, sensitive and strong at the same time (you might not realized that one but I believe you are), hot and passionate!! How’s that? Did I get it right?


Arial
06-11-2013, 01:59 AM
… Am I Teddybear ?

Though…

As a matter of fact I would imagine you looking like a poster boy from a porn looking all innocent but naughty and rough.

… No, that’s Spartank, no doubt. 😀

———- Post added at 06:59 PM ———- Previous post was at 06:56 PM ———-

… Works better than peeling an onion but in essence works the same way if the person is sensitive and oblivious enough.

Place a bit of onion skin on your head when peeling it. Seriously, you will be surprised. Old grandmas’s trick.


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 02:09 AM
well to me you are so what are going to do about it. LoL. of course I have grown to appreciate what we have here like constant chitchat we agree to disagree and I have embraced that like a teddybear! that’s how it is.

Place a bit of onion skin on your head when peeling it. Seriously, you will be surprised. Old grandmas’s trick.
I honestly don’t know that, but hey what does it do to the person then?


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-11-2013, 02:11 AM
@Sparktank 2.0

love the "This is my design." quote! 😀

Why thank you for your opinion! :awsm:

SPARKY!! Hey!

Didja listen to my present?

Not yet. :laugh: I’ve been too busy trying to get some trailers converted for 3D presentation.
Spent 6 hours googling and reading. >.<

…. No, that’s Spartank, no doubt. 😀

Poster boy? No.
Naughty and rough? On the inside. :angel:

———- Post added at 06:11 PM ———- Previous post was at 06:10 PM ———-

:erm: I actually forgot where I downloaded it too.
I haven’t checked my downloads so it’s mixed in there with other stuff too.


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 02:12 AM
Poster boy? No.
Naughty and rough? On the inside.
I think I would like to know you more Sparky….:D

Arial
06-11-2013, 02:20 AM

I honestly don’t know that, but hey what does it do to the person then?

You just stop crying like if you lost your teddybear.

———- Post added at 07:20 PM ———- Previous post was at 07:14 PM ———-

I think I would like to know you more Sparky….:D

Tss tss. Don’t run after two rabbits at the same time. http://www.gloryofwar.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/no%20smiley.gif

Ah !!! and you just made yourself a new beauty as I see. No, no. Stop that.


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 02:22 AM
You just stop crying like if you lost your teddybear.
Hmmmm. I don’t know but I haven’t lost a teddybear yet but I do missed my t-rex.

Tss tss. Don’t run after two rabbits at the same time.
Hey I’m not. We could be also be friends or buddies you know? :p


Amanda
06-11-2013, 02:23 AM
Well you already stated what could be my response. Opinions, opinions and opinions. Works better than peeling an onion but in essence works the same way if the person is sensitive and oblivious enough. But at the end of the day it’s still an OPINION.

Amanda,

Sorry dear I’ve already seen your avatar, but If I where to based what you look like inside judging on your posts my impression would always be the same. Accommodating, frank, sensitive and strong at the same time (you might not realized that one but I believe you are), hot and passionate!! How’s that? Did I get it right?

I honestly dunno oftern times. 🙁 But, many of my friends would agree with you. (That’s like, 2, maybe 3 folks….)


tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-11-2013, 02:24 AM
I think I would like to know you more Sparky….:D

Tss tss. Don’t run after two rabbits at the same time. http://www.gloryofwar.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/no%20smiley.gif

Yeah, what the hey? :notgood: Disloyal. :notgood:
My punishments are severe.

MPEG-2.5 Audio Layer III 8kbps/8000 Hz


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 02:30 AM
I honestly dunno oftern times. But, many of my friends would agree with you. (That’s like, 2, maybe 3 folks….)
Don’t be too hard on yourself babydoll. Having 2 or 3 loyal friends is better than having a bunch if they would leave you when you needed them.

Tss tss. Don’t run after two rabbits at the same time.
One at a time maybe? :p

Sparky there’s no link there it’s better if I could hear that growling in there if that’s what it is?


Arial
06-11-2013, 02:33 AM
Hohoho…. Grrrr…. Grrr !

GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 02:35 AM
I swear I could hear some whip lashing and some more cuffs clinging in there….Ruaaarrrrrrrrh
Add of course the 150 drummers marching tune from this score as it’s background now that would be splendid!

tehƧP@ƦKly???ANK??? -Ⅲ???
06-11-2013, 02:39 AM
Sparky there’s no link

It’s the future of all MP3’s~


Arial
06-11-2013, 02:41 AM
I swear I could hear some whip lashing and some more cuffs clinging in there….Ruaaarrrrrrrrh

I dunno if you spotted it, but I tiped my post before you edit yours with the "growling" line.

I think you and I are connected at this right moment. Haha. Oh, you… ! Ok, I switch off or it is my brain that will disconnect.

(When I’ll tell my friend Marco how the shrine is hot tonight… holala !).


c???d???master88
06-11-2013, 02:42 AM
I know I may be late on this (I have more of a life than to read 15+ pages of bickering to find the one post I’m talking about) but after a more devoted listening, I can’t help but notice how loud it is. I don’t mean just the percussive stuff, the lighter stuff seems to be mixed way too loud as well. It’s a constant volume button war for me. Anyway that is all. Glad to see this piece of mediocrity is getting the unneeded attention it no doubt doesn’t deserve but hey, in the spirit of things I’m just gonna throw out the fact that it’s MY opinion alone and I dare someone to challenge me. Actually no I don’t. I don’t really care at this point, haha.

Arial
06-11-2013, 02:44 AM
I don’t think it’s about the Man of Steel anymore.

Eeeerrr… Yes maybe, but not Zimmer’s.


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 02:44 AM
It’s the future of all MP3’s~
If you say so. I believe we already hijacked this thread far too long now but just so you know Spark like any other member here each opinions count (I would dare not forget Arials’, Amandas’, and all the Jane and John Does’ matter) and at the end of the day I knew how to take it and respect that differences and that’s what makes shrine even more fun and exciting! and HOT HOT HOT!

Oh wait I think I just killed the fun! xoxo

Yeah teddybearArial please do tell your friend how hot this thread had become. I just missed SonicAdventure, a great guy! (Now that’s 3 rabbits there) :p

I dunno if you spotted it, but I tiped my post before you edit yours with the "growling" line.

I think you and I are connected at this right moment. Haha. Oh, you… ! Ok, I switch off or it is my brain that will disconnect.

Geez, how did I missed this!!


gururu
06-11-2013, 03:30 AM
Wow. I’d sooner listen to two hours of John Williams singing in the shower than listen to that again.

Rad???Max
06-11-2013, 03:51 AM
i was expecting more from the score so it was a big letdown for me. however this won’t deter me from watching the film and maybe on the film’s context the score did workout well? remains to be seen imo.

Biggs v.2
06-11-2013, 03:53 AM
Have we got a decent quality version yet, or are all you professional music critics still listening to the 160kbps version? *chuckles to self*

Amanda
06-11-2013, 04:33 AM
chuckles AT biggs. Why would I have to be a "professional" critic to know whether I like a score? A better quality rip won’t change the fact that I just don’t care for the album. But, yea, I have a better quality rip. I had this days ago, from a completely different source, as I suggested in a different thread. Even a lossless copy did not change my mind. I kept 4 tracks of the deluxe for my compilation, ditched the rest. I listened 4 times through, the last just last night with the version posted here, while discussing the tracks with other members. My feelings on it never changed. Well, they did. On the first pass I wasn’t gonna keep any tracks. And no, I did not post as my source asked me not to. Still says no. So, I gutted, converted to mp3 and deleted. But, still, even at a better rip, no I did not care for it much. Perhaps a "professional" critic can convince me I am wrong, and that I actually liked it even though I thought I didn’t. Who knows.

Ah, but to answer your highly and unnecessarily sarcastic insul…err..comment, yes. Yes better copies are around. Yes, flac copies are around and have been (for me and my sources anyway) since last Thurs or so, so glad I could help you with that.

Glad you liked my quote there. Doesn’t mean I am wrong, or you are right, or vice versa. Just because I do not particularly like something you personally feel is worth tearing up over, does not mean you get to be a prattling ass towards me.

NOR does it mean I can be a bitch. Sorry. Tired and wrong.


Biggs v.2
06-11-2013, 04:41 AM
What a hilarious and ridiculous overreaction… Thanks for the heads-up on the better qualities, I’ll prolly just wait for mine to arrive in the post.

Amanda
06-11-2013, 04:53 AM
I know. I already apologised in the post above. I am sorry. Tired, but no excuse. I do know for a fact that good copies are around. They will be harder to find with a dozen of these rips floating around now. The album sounds fine quality wise.

———- Post added at 08:45 PM ———- Previous post was at 08:43 PM ———-

But, I am curious as to why it so rattles you that I have had no emotional connection to the score. Why is that so hard to believe? And why is it ok for you to scorn me, but not I you? Whe do I have to feel I am stupid for not feeling it the way you do?

———- Post added at 08:53 PM ———- Previous post was at 08:45 PM ———-

For instance. Sorei is my very best friend. Now I really dislike this score. She is quite fond of it. We tease each other, but not once has our opinions of each other changed because of that. Sparktank clearly adores the score. He does not call me stupid or mock me, nor I him. What the hell is wrong with us that …ah fuck it. I’m out.

Lockdown, Granny etc, my pm’s are open again for now. Shortly. Anyone who truly wants to be friends, or at least a friendly contact, send me a message.


Arial
06-11-2013, 04:54 AM
Don’t feed each other’s egos.

Each one his feelings, experience, reasons. Wich are all what makes an opinion. Nobody has to tell you what you have to feel.

… Wait !…. How’s that you have no emotional connection to the score ? How’s it possible ?!!


Lockdown
06-11-2013, 04:59 AM
Well when everyone’s score arrives in the mail, your FLAC will be useless. I’m pretty sure there’s a rule about continually bragging about something you have but can’t/won’t share it. It comes off as very rude to me.

———- Post added at 09:59 PM ———- Previous post was at 09:57 PM ———-

This week I will be posting Hans Zimmer scores you’ve probably never heard.


Megalith
06-11-2013, 05:01 AM
I put on James Newton Howard’s score for After Earth and my headache is gone.

Biggs v.2
06-11-2013, 05:01 AM
I don’t care if you do or don’t like the score… music is personal, affects everyone in different ways. But the lexicon you use is utterly ridiculous and the particular quote I reference is symptomatic of your general tone in this thread and many others… Suggest going back and reviewing a lot of what you (and these other "critics") bash out on the keyboard comes across as self-indulgent, passive-aggressive tripe. If you don’t like the score, fine… you’ve made your point, move on. But saying stuff like "my high school had better music" or whatever the next allegorical rant you go on just makes you look really really really immature and silly.

I could literally predict peoples opinions towards a Gregson-Williams or Zimmer score around here, makes it a utterly depressing place to come and a good reason why I’m at 200 posts and not 10,000 like you. Music evokes passionate responses, likes and dislikes… it’s how you moderate that passion within the discussion. There’s a reason why his music connects with so many people… and cultured, music loving people. Yes, it’s not John Williams. It was never SUPPOSED to be John Williams. That argument is so tired. Go and see the film. As many have said, the music in many ways is a reflection of the tone of the film, should it work as a stand-alone score? Absolutely, but it’s not Bach… and it never will be. It’s modern film composing… it will resonate with many for that very reason and if you don’t enjoy it, don’t buy it… but you don’t need to be a drama queen either.

Finally, you can scorn me all you like. Doesn’t bother me in the slightest. My love for music, whatever it is, is always personal… as I’m sure yours is. Difference is; I don’t feel the need to belt out essays, call people assholes and when people like something that I don’t nor do I tell them my highschool had better music*, which is asinine at best, utterly obnoxious at worst, which is why I can’t take you seriously as a critic or music score lover. I have no idea who the other folks are attacking whomever for what reason, but if you want to be on the right side of the discussion? Be the bigger person. Humble Pie is best tasted by everyone.

*Remember, you said it.


Bioscope
06-11-2013, 05:09 AM
I think we need to wait to put sound to visuals before we judge. Remember Zimmer loves subtext.

Amanda
06-11-2013, 05:11 AM
I don’t care if you do or don’t like the score… music is personal, affects everyone in different ways. But the lexicon you use is utterly ridiculous and the particular quote I reference is symptomatic of your general tone in this thread and many others… Suggest going back and reviewing a lot of what you (and these other "critics") bash out on the keyboard comes across as self-indulgent, passive-aggressive tripe. If you don’t like the score, fine… you’ve made your point, move on. But saying stuff like "my high school had better music" or whatever the next allegorical rant you go on just makes you look really really really immature and silly.

I could literally predict peoples opinions towards a Gregson-Williams or Zimmer score around here, makes it a utterly depressing place to come and a good reason why I’m at 200 posts and not 10,000 like you. Music evokes passionate responses, likes and dislikes… it’s how you moderate that passion within the discussion. There’s a reason why his music connects with so many people… and cultured, music loving people. Yes, it’s not John Williams. It was never SUPPOSED to be John Williams. That argument is so tired. Go and see the film. As many have said, the music in many ways is a reflection of the tone of the film, should it work as a stand-alone score? Absolutely, but it’s not Bach… and it never will be. It’s modern film composing… it will resonate with many for that very reason and if you don’t enjoy it, don’t buy it… but you don’t need to be a drama queen either.

Finally, you can scorn me all you like. Doesn’t bother me in the slightest. My love for music, whatever it is, is always personal… as I’m sure yours is. Difference is; I don’t feel the need to belt out essays, call people assholes and when people like something that I don’t nor do I tell them my highschool had better music*, which is asinine at best, utterly obnoxious at worst, which is why I can’t take you seriously as a critic or music score lover. I have no idea who the other folks are attacking whomever for what reason, but if you want to be on the right side of the discussion? Be the bigger person. Humble Pie is best tasted by everyone.

*Remember, you said it.

‘Twas a **joke**, as were the other many sundry things I said yesterday. Most. Not all but most. I keep saying, discussing the score on it’s merits is not ranting, nor is it bashing. I have not "bashed" any Zimmer score. I have very specifically said I approach his with the same attitude I do any other. I am just as harsh on Horner’s Spiderman, and Williams’ last 2 as I am on this. So what? Am I bashing Horner? No. Amazing Spiderman disappoints me on almost every level. So? Hyperbole can serve humor quite well. I will not apologize for that. IF you had read any of my posts earlier today, I have clearly said all this already. I have clearly stated my opinion that William’s scoring style would never fit this movie. I havce agreed it likely works better in the film. So I don’t see why I am being told what I have already stated. You need to seperate the members posting. Not all of us who dislike the score are saying "it’s not williams".


Arial
06-11-2013, 05:13 AM
music hath charms to soothe the savage breast

William Congreve 1697

… So, this thread is obviously not about music. lol


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 05:14 AM
Each one his feelings, experience, reasons. Wich are all what makes an opinion. Nobody has to tell you what you have to feel…

I would choose not to put more fire on this one but what i do quoted says it all. And if I may add the issue is not a personal disgusts on Zimmer but his current line of works, heck in my personal opinion I would even pick Harry Gregson-Williams, Klaus Badelt, or Lorne Balfe over Zimmer. I think it’s best to leave the discussion on the topic and never on people per se.


Amanda
06-11-2013, 05:19 AM
? Music.? What? WHY would I talk about music?

———- Post added at 09:19 PM ———- Previous post was at 09:16 PM ———-

Anyhoo, yea. Like I said, I have nothing more to say on the score.

BTW, yes, mentioning flac and shit is rude as hell. It is intentionally obnoxious and vindictive. I have explained to those whose opinions I care about, well some, but yes it is deliberate and aimed directly at members here. I wanna be the bigger person, but then I remember what a fucking cunt I am, and I just can’t stop myself.


Arial
06-11-2013, 05:23 AM
You’re addicted to posting. Go read something fabulous, I dunno. Stop the argument in your head. 😉

Amanda
06-11-2013, 05:37 AM
**if only I could**

The hallucinations are SO bad, and the voices so mean, wanting me to hurt myself, it is severely affecting me. I…am sorry I am letting this spill over. I am trying to right myself, but this is literally the only human contact I have. I try to stay away, I know I am being disruptive and am all over the map. I am sorry to everyone, and beg your forgiveness, please. Please just forgive me, and if you can, try to grant me a little patience. I am trying really hard, and new meds will be starting as of tonight. PLease, you guys mean the world to me and **please** try to bear with me?


Arial
06-11-2013, 05:47 AM
**if only I could**

Ahh, of course I’m not in your situation. But I’m just learning myself that we can much more than we use to imagine. But we need to stay creative for that, and that can be a tough lesson to handle… It generally is. 🙂


JDow13
06-11-2013, 05:55 AM
Since we’re on the Zimmer subject again…I can’t wait for Lone Ranger.

GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 06:18 AM
**if only I could**
Have you tried candle therapy? Some scented lighted candle could ease up tensions while relaxing. It might help you calm and soothe your body away from further stresses.

Since we’re on the Zimmer subject again…I can’t wait for Lone Ranger.
I hope it doesn’t suffer the same fate as this one…and I will no longer expound on that matter just to be safe.


Arial
06-11-2013, 06:20 AM
… just to be safe.

Afraid to be shot through the screen ? lol.

… But yeah, save your time, and your soul. (What am I doing here btw ?… oh yeah, pm’s).


Amanda
06-11-2013, 06:22 AM
Dunno. I wonder what he did with it? It surely won’t face the type of expectation of MOS? Action western How does he tend to approach those? Speaking of MOS, a rip claiming to be mp3 320 is at Paradox….

———- Post added at 10:22 PM ———- Previous post was at 10:21 PM ———-

Until we get someone we KNOW posting, it is gonna be frustrating trying to figure which post is real, and which is transcode. This will quickly get **so** much more frustrating. These transcodes will survive out there for years.


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 06:27 AM
Afraid to be shot through the screen ? lol.

… .
Maybe. xoxo. No not really. It could wait. It might be better considering it would be western? Hopefully (to be positive) :p


gururu
06-11-2013, 06:28 AM
Since we’re on the Zimmer subject again…I can’t wait for Lone Ranger.

NOOOOOOOO!!! PLEASE MAKE IT STOP 😉


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 06:33 AM
NOOOOOOOO!!! PLEASE MAKE IT STOP 😉

Oh no! LoL

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/lol.gif


Arial
06-11-2013, 06:38 AM
Or this:


Amanda
06-11-2013, 06:38 AM
Actually, funny as it is, our antics are likely to derail this too far. We risk irritating mods. I suggest…………**squirrel!!**

Arial
06-11-2013, 06:41 AM
… I’m on topic. So far.

GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 06:43 AM
Or this:

Man of the Hour!


Arial
06-11-2013, 06:48 AM
… But that thread would make him feel like a lone ranger.

Sorry.


GrannyGooz
06-11-2013, 07:02 AM
…And we will have another possible hot and explosive thread in the making…

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md7vzhmLfc1qlxz13.gif


DAKoftheOTA
06-11-2013, 07:27 AM
I’m pretty sure there’s a rule about continually bragging about something you have but can’t/won’t share it. It comes off as very rude to me.[

I like the sound of that. There are some people here (who shall rename nameless, but consider themselves something more than everyone else) who say "I have this, but no, cannot share so don’t ask". Those are the people who need to think before they put their words on screen, because it’s simply….stupid. And to quote myself from earlier, "stupidity should be painful"


licenturion
06-11-2013, 07:55 AM
Found this 320kbps edition. But I don’t have the software to check if it is not an upconvert: [email protected] (215,76 MB) – uploaded.net (http://uploaded.net/file/mestsm8o)

theodred27
06-11-2013, 08:26 AM
After having been listening to the score 3 times, I think that the most frustrating aspects are:
.The fullfillment of gaps throughout the score with just noisy sounds
.The lack of developement of the very few themes; like the piano motif or even the heroic part that appears at the end of "tornado" which could have been far more developed latter or even " Goodbye my son" which ends up too abruptly.
.The overuse of drums so that the music seems to have been made for a movie occuring in the prehistoric era and not for a super hero.
I don’t compare MOS with Williams’s work, I don’t see the point but I do compare it with Batman Begins and on the latter Zimmer seemed far more commited with a guideline made of various very interesting themes. Here it sounds as if he didnt understand what the fuck he was doing. "Ok I have a theme, it sounds good on my piano, let’s use some drums and it should be ok.
Maybe Zimmer should think about being alone without 10 additional composers. At least we don’t have "Man of Steel featuring Rihanna" or "This is Clark Kent DJ Tiesto Remix"

marcorea1
06-11-2013, 08:48 AM
.

licenturion
06-11-2013, 09:13 AM
Can someone check if this is a transcode or not: https://mega.co.nz/#!olMlEbjY!OSiqxUPCkWS9JHlcCfRU-GjmbtZbB21u-TUIRlxWFLU (6.3 MB)

ZheParadox
06-11-2013, 09:33 AM
still no FLAC huh?

Kadron
06-11-2013, 09:54 AM
I wonder what it was like when Batman Begins came out, considering Danny Elfmans scores

antovolk
06-11-2013, 01:49 PM
Yeah, could someone please check that 320 link posted above?

licenturion
06-11-2013, 02:18 PM
Yeah, could someone please check that 320 link posted above?

I have uploaded one song of it so people don’t have to download the whole 250 MB.


JHFan
06-11-2013, 02:36 PM
It’s threads like this that make me want to say one thing:

FUCK HANS ZIMMER


theiss2003
06-11-2013, 02:40 PM
Found this 320kbps edition. But I don’t have the software to check if it is not an upconvert: [email protected] (215,76 MB) – uploaded.net (http://uploaded.net/file/mestsm8o)
Right click -> Properties tells me: It’s all 256 kbps

marcorea1
06-11-2013, 03:55 PM
Right click -> Properties tells me: It’s all 256 kbps

You gotta smile really 🙂


antovolk
06-11-2013, 04:04 PM
edit

OSTpianist
06-11-2013, 04:11 PM
Thanks a lot!!

Pared
06-11-2013, 04:14 PM
Thanks for the links.

Lilu
06-11-2013, 05:06 PM
Hans Zimmer – Man of Steel (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) [Deluxe Edition] [AAC]
Watertower Music / Deluxe Edition / WEB / AAC / 256

https://mega.co.nz/#!AQtAGAQL!CGtwCBxFiK7bNuLmQQdP8x7-vkFelUT6-4_Mbx9O2Cs
guessing the one is iTunes .. lets hope for the flac today 😛


antovolk
06-11-2013, 05:13 PM
Hans Zimmer – Man of Steel (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) [Deluxe Edition] [AAC]
Watertower Music / Deluxe Edition / WEB / AAC / 256

https://mega.co.nz/#!AQtAGAQL!CGtwCBxFiK7bNuLmQQdP8x7-vkFelUT6-4_Mbx9O2Cs
guessing the one is iTunes .. lets hope for the flac today 😛

Thank you – this is what I’ve been waiting for!


kureizu
06-11-2013, 05:19 PM
Hans Zimmer – Man of Steel (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) [Deluxe Edition] [AAC]
Watertower Music / Deluxe Edition / WEB / AAC / 256

https://mega.co.nz/#!AQtAGAQL!CGtwCBxFiK7bNuLmQQdP8x7-vkFelUT6-4_Mbx9O2Cs
guessing the one is iTunes .. lets hope for the flac today 😛

Now we are talking. Thank you.


DjawadiFan
06-11-2013, 05:36 PM
Thanks to Lilu, Here is another Mirror: Man of Steel Itunes Version – M4A AAC 256k – 118:19 min + Digital Booklet
Steel2013.zip (232,47 MB) – uploaded.net (http://uploaded.net/file/vdoyhmbp)

nachito_pop
06-11-2013, 05:45 PM
Thanks Lilu

Mike Flaherty
06-11-2013, 06:05 PM
Well, I have listened to this score a few times now and It has grown on me. The closest Zimmer score I feel it resembles is Crimson Tide. There are some instances that harken back to Black Rain in terms of style (specifically General Zod’s theme – if that is his theme – It bears quite a striking similarity to the Nick And Masa cue that plays right after Charlie Loses His Head, which you might remember from being used in at least 100 movie trailers in the early 90’s.) I even got quite a chuckle at the Earth cue on the second disc, as it sounds like a newly discovered track from Days Of Thunder. I’ve been wondering for years why Zimmer doesn’t go back to his style of composing from 20 years ago, and it sounds to me for Man Of Steel he finally did.

benuit
06-11-2013, 06:42 PM
…and I thought after TDKR: "Can it get any worse?"

…and yes, he can. It’s just cruel.


kiedysgrzes
06-11-2013, 06:54 PM
Well, I have listened to this score a few times now and It has grown on me. The closest Zimmer score I feel it resembles is Crimson Tide. There are some instances that harken back to Black Rain in terms of style (specifically General Zod’s theme – if that is his theme – It bears quite a striking similarity to the Nick And Masa cue that plays right after Charlie Loses His Head, which you might remember from being used in at least 100 movie trailers in the early 90’s.) I even got quite a chuckle at the Earth cue on the second disc, as it sounds like a newly discovered track from Days Of Thunder. I’ve been wondering for years why Zimmer doesn’t go back to his style of composing from 20 years ago, and it sounds to me for Man Of Steel he finally did.after 16 pages of crying somebody finally got it 🙂 you don’t have to like it, but don’t assume The God of modern film scoring is stupid, it simply not true 🙂

resurrection of his cheap and effective 90ies sound on this occasion… pure genius 🙂


ajcrean
06-11-2013, 06:58 PM
…and I thought after TDKR: "Can it get any worse?"

…and yes, he can. It’s just cruel.

To be honest, I can’t hear much difference between TDKR and this. Yes, yes; that’s probably a teeny-tiny exaggeration and I appreciate that many people like his work but I can’t say that I’m one of them. I’ve yet to see the film but am sure that – like TDKR – the soundtrack will work well in that context which is, after all, what he was hired to produce. I have a growing collection of soundtracks and I listen to most of them repeatedly but I don’t find Zimmer’s work a particularly engaging listening experience. It’s functional and fits the film for which it was written and that’s about it as far as I’m concerned.

Anyhoo, for those of you who do like his work, enjoy!


Sunderella
06-11-2013, 07:04 PM
You can ask Hans Zimmer anything here – I am Hans Zimmer – Ask Me Anything! : IAmA (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1g4wkt/i_am_hans_zimmer_ask_me_anything/) gogo while it’s early!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151997682064128&set=a.230201354127.178112.7170054127&type=1&theater


Amanda
06-11-2013, 07:04 PM
Zimmer has produced some very fine scores. I have a small collection I kept intact. It is just I do not feel this hit the mark. I was watching Game of Thrones season 3 last night. The track on the new album called Dracarys is of a similar style to this score…percussion, synth sounds and choir, but I feel it was 10 times more effective and emotional. HOWEVER, I first heard it in the scene itself, which was a very powerful theme. So, seeing these tracks in the film could very well change the perception of them. I do not agree that this and DKR sound the same, and this is NOT far worse, I do feel it is substantially better than that. But again, I only heard the DKR score with the film. I avoided listening til then. I disliked the film quite a lot, and have little desire to hear the score now, so it works both ways.

rrprod21
06-11-2013, 07:07 PM
Thank you for sharing, but since Inception… Hans Zimmer is no longer my favorite…

Sunderella
06-11-2013, 07:38 PM
"Which composition of yours took the longest to complete? I love your work!"

[–]realhanszimmer[S]:

"Notes per minute? Probably the Clark Kent theme from Man of Steel because I was procrastinating for so long, trying to shake off the enormous shadow that John Williams’ Superman theme cast". xD


ajcrean
06-11-2013, 07:47 PM
"Which composition of yours took the longest to complete? I love your work!"

[–]realhanszimmer[S]:

"Not a clue, I’m afraid. You’d have to ask the back-room bitches who compose it all, I guess. Although, I did hear them complaining about finding the right sound for the Clark Kent theme from Man of Steel because I was procrastinating for so long, trying to shake off the enormous shadow that John Williams’ Superman theme cast". Then I thought ‘Sod it! Drums will work’ and I was done!"

There, fixed it for ya… 🙂


jmn77
06-11-2013, 07:51 PM
lol

Arial
06-11-2013, 08:08 PM
You can ask Hans Zimmer anything here – I am Hans Zimmer – Ask Me Anything! : IAmA (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1g4wkt/i_am_hans_zimmer_ask_me_anything/) gogo while it’s early!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151997682064128&set=a.230201354127.178112.7170054127&type=1&theater

1) When was the last time you have opened the door from your giant bedroom (yes, the studios) to see what the world outside looks like ?… That’s what a TV magazine about you and your work made me wonder.

2) Also, do you ever listen to classical or ancient or even religious music to recycle your mind and your style, as to bring the inspiration its highest level ? (that sounds like a critic, but it’s not really).

3) … Can’t you do anything about the loudness war that sign each CD release of your music ?

(Surmised replies: 1)- "no way, too busy with my sound librairies" ; 2) "no way, too busy with my composers" ; 3) "what are you talking about ?…")


Kadron
06-11-2013, 08:09 PM
yeah I dont understand the TDKR comparisons either
I’d even go as far as to say TDKR stood out more

but then again, it was helped by having 2 movies worth of history behind it


boosterrr
06-11-2013, 08:11 PM
…and I thought after TDKR: "Can it get any worse?"

…and yes, he can. It’s just cruel.

Take that back! The Dark knight rises is a very good score,for example Blake Visits Wayne Manor very emotional music that gives me goosebumps!! the Bane theme is a terrifying piece that works perfect for this
character Without A Rope teriffic Heroic music the whole score is perfect
This is the future how action music likes get used to it


Arial
06-11-2013, 08:12 PM
… Thumb down yourself. (IMO) (<- let’s be careful here).

Megalith
06-11-2013, 08:30 PM
I can’t help but wonder if something went wrong with the way this was mixed. I actually hear distortion on the Terraforming track (sounds as if the bass is severely overdriven at one point), and this is the Google Music version so I know it’s not a bad rip or anything.

Mike Flaherty
06-11-2013, 09:45 PM
I missed the Q&A. Damn It! I would have said to him how I consider Green Card one of my top 20 favorite scores and why he doesn’t go back to that simple style of music. Before he got Bruckheimered that is.

ZheParadox
06-11-2013, 09:48 PM
I can’t help but wonder if something went wrong with the way this was mixed. I actually hear distortion on the Terraforming track (sounds as if the bass is severely overdriven at one point), and this is the Google Music version so I know it’s not a bad rip or anything.

here too… but it’s only the itunes version
i’m still waiting for FLAC


Joseph
06-11-2013, 10:05 PM
RE: distortion in "Terraforming"

The Amazon MP3 version also has this distortion. Checked some YouTube streams of "Terraforming" and, sure enough, they have it too. Not sure if it’s intentional or not, but either way I find it to be a blemish on an otherwise awesome track. The rest of the album sounds fine, though.


Rocklegend2000
06-11-2013, 10:07 PM
"Which composition of yours took the longest to complete? I love your work!"

[–]realhanszimmer[S]:

"Notes per minute? Probably the Clark Kent theme from Man of Steel because I was procrastinating for so long, trying to shake off the enormous shadow that John Williams’ Superman theme cast". xD

That man is such a Bullshitter it’s unreal…… Clark Kent Theme….. ha ha ha lol…………. Eat it up folks because we’re gonna have this shit for the next decade……

I really shouldn’t comment on Zimmer while listening to Jerry Goldsmith 🙂


Phideas1
06-11-2013, 10:08 PM
I kinda like this music. Yes, it is big on drums but we come to expect that from Zimmer. (King Arthur remains his drumming masterpiece). There is a sprinkling of new things in this score. The solo voice. The solo bass piano. And a number of moments that remind of his his exceptional score from INCEPTION. But that is to be expected. All composers drag a little of their most recent work into their new work. This is called "composed during this period". Ralph Vaughan Williams and other classical composers did the same. It is never exact copy- unless you are a Xerox machine or James Horner.

This needs repeated listening to capture the nuances. I like the ‘dark theme’ that appears from time to time. It seems to hint at something yet bigger and bigger and bigger… a crescendo anticipation.

Not interested in seeing the film. So this will have to be a stand alone experience for my wee furry ears.

I will always marvel at the creation of music. How sound in a person’s head can be put on paper and then manifest to an audience. James Newton Howard’s score for the movie SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS stunned me. It was as if they made the movie to his music, not the other way around. I can say the same for Zimmer and INCEPTION. He created music that kept you on the edge of your seat, propelling you forward with the story and making me wonder again and again "How did he come up with this stuff?"

OH. It does appear the crescendo I was expecting appears in the last track via chorus: Man of Steel. Looks like the whole sound track has been leading up to that emotional moment.

It ain’t John Williams bubble gum music days no more folks. 😉


Rocklegend2000
06-11-2013, 10:11 PM
I missed the Q&A. Damn It! I would have said to him how I consider Green Card one of my top 20 favorite scores and why he doesn’t go back to that simple style of music. Before he got Bruckheimered that is.

I’ll answer that for ya…… because that kind of stuff doesn’t pay the bills….. 🙂


Phideas1
06-11-2013, 10:22 PM
Things change. CHANGE. I love Korngold. I have always had a large collection of Goldsmith. In recent years I discovered Kaczmarek. Zimmer and his apostles have a style. It fluctuates. But change is good. New ideas in film scores can be exciting. Once in a while the old familiar style resurfaces and makes you feel all cozy (Water For Elephants).

We can’t all like everything. But artists have to grow. Try new things. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. I like that film music is very diverse today.

Makes things interesting. Arguably.


Arial
06-11-2013, 10:31 PM
I kinda like this music. Yes, it is big on drums but we come to expect that from Zimmer. (King Arthur remains his drumming masterpiece). There is a sprinkling of new things in this score. The solo voice. The solo bass piano. And a number of moments that remind of his his exceptional score from INCEPTION. But that is to be expected. All composers drag a little of their most recent work into their new work. This is called "composed during this period". Ralph Vaughan Williams and other classical composers did the same. It is never exact copy- unless you are a Xerox machine or James Horner.

This needs repeated listening to capture the nuances. I like the ‘dark theme’ that appears from time to time. It seems to hint at something yet bigger and bigger and bigger… a crescendo anticipation.

Not interested in seeing the film. So this will have to be a stand alone experience for my wee furry ears.

I will always marvel at the creation of music. How sound in a person’s head can be put on paper and then manifest to an audience. James Newton Howard’s score for the movie SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS stunned me. It was as if they made the movie to his music, not the other way around. I can say the same for Zimmer and INCEPTION. He created music that kept you on the edge of your seat, propelling you forward with the story and making me wonder again and again "How did he come up with this stuff?"

OH. It does appear the crescendo I was expecting appears in the last track via chorus: Man of Steel. Looks like the whole sound track has been leading up to that emotional moment.

It ain’t John Williams bubble gum music days no more folks. 😉

Even with how much I suspect this score – or the release form – to be avoided by myself, that’s a nice description of one experience here.

And fair enough about bubble gum days, imo.

———- Post added at 03:31 PM ———- Previous post was at 03:28 PM ———-

…I like that film music is very diverse today.

I agree only because I watch very diverse kinds of films, from very diverse countries (mostly Europe). Rarely blockbusters like this. For these I see no differences, but as you mentionned, nuances. That’s a bit poor to call that "diverse".


SUPERVENOM
06-11-2013, 11:17 PM
I Like the Score my SELF…it’S new & AwSum…..can not wait for the movie……:-)

Megalith
06-11-2013, 11:33 PM
Call me crazy, but the CD/lossless version sounds infinitely better and much more natural. Terraforming is still all kinds of fucked up, though. I wish someone had mentioned that on the reddit Q&A.

Phideas1
06-11-2013, 11:40 PM
Nuances help to create diversity. David Torn’s very unique score for THE ORDER is filled with musical nuances that had never been tried before. The music was not to everyone’s taste. I found it fascinating. Desplat is a curiosity. His sound is faint and far from bombastic. He tried being Bernard Herrmann in The Ghost Writer (and failed). But what he accomplished in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button- like the film itself- is simply lovely and delicate… moving from solo instrumentation to a full orchestra.

I always parse out music. Kaczmarek is great fun with this. The special combinations of instruments and voice- as well as his favorite pianist anchoring most his music. He has managed to create ORGASMIC heights in BLISS and the happy wag of a dog’s tail in Hachiko.

James Newton Howard seemed for a while to be a chameleon. He created the SOUND OF MOUNTAINS in Vertical Limit. And as I wrote before his score for SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS is amazing, so absolutely entwined with its picture postcard visuals. Which came first? The chicken or the egg?

Never the less, none of us really HATE a composer or HATE this or that music. It comes down to it simply doesn’t satisfy our ears. It doesn’t resonate. It is personal. Even a well beloved composer comes up with duds and some music we enjoyed ten years ago we have long out grown.

But we can not drive a dagger into the heart of something we have not seen or have not heard.

Now who wants to play a game of Twister? Amanda? 😉


ZheParadox
06-11-2013, 11:43 PM
Call me crazy, but the CD/lossless version sounds infinitely better and much more natural. Terraforming is still all kinds of fucked up, though. I wish someone had mentioned that on the reddit Q&A.

did you get your cd?!?
any chance you could up that? 😀

aaaaand you ain’t crazy! i believe ya…
the "iron man 3" score sounded way better lossless than the fucked up aac.


Mike Flaherty
06-11-2013, 11:46 PM
I’ll answer that for ya…… because that kind of stuff doesn’t pay the bills….. 🙂

I think he’s in a position where he doesn’t have to worry about bills ever again. Even Thomas Newman does the little movie every now and then.


ZheParadox
06-11-2013, 11:58 PM
Even Thomas Newman does the little movie every now and then.

yeah BUT they also sound like it???
except for "The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel" but that’s technically not a small movie


Arial
06-11-2013, 11:59 PM
… But we can not drive a dagger into the heart of something we have not seen or have not heard.

… Who did ?

… Which came first? The chicken or the egg?

Logicaly…


TazerMonkey
06-12-2013, 12:40 AM
Not getting the massive hate on this one. I’m not a huge fan of Zimmer, and this sounds about what I’d have expected him to come up with; certainly in the vein of his recent output that people seem to clamor over. It’s not like he was suddenly going to spurt out a Korngoldian symphonic masterwork just because he’s following up John Williams.

Williams’s Superman has rightfully held its place over the decades, and I think that in terms of depth and complexity his work far exceeds this, and I’d imagine that Hans Zimmer would agree. But this is kind of like prog rock Superman, and I’m kind of liking it.

Looking forward to the film this weekend.


Sirusjr
06-12-2013, 01:08 AM
I’ve decided to hold off until seeing the film before listening to the music this time. I’m going this weekend so I’ll have plenty of time to check it out. If I don’t leave the theater clamoring for the score I’ll just let it sit out there for others to enjoy.

Lockdown
06-12-2013, 01:10 AM
I’m gonna be posting some actually good Zimmer scores. Stay tuned.

Yourfavoratemusic
06-12-2013, 01:16 AM
We need a reup of the 320 deluxe.

scorehunter66
06-12-2013, 02:31 AM
I’m gonna be posting some actually good Zimmer scores. Stay tuned.

I think you’ll find anything by him has already been posted a number of times on here, so why clutter up the forum with material that’s already available?


Lockdown
06-12-2013, 02:43 AM
Everything I’m going to be posting is in lossless, and I’m not posting stuff like Pirates of the Caribbean or anything, so I hope these will be at least upgrades, from previous posts.

GrannyGooz
06-12-2013, 09:37 AM
…and I thought after TDKR: "Can it get any worse?"

…and yes, he can. It’s just cruel.

Confirmed.

And so I was back fresh from one of the earliest screening in asia and I did had a good time watching this current reincarnation of Superman. The story is good. The action scenes are wonders to behold but the only thing that really fails is like I first feared the music by Mr. Zimmer. Other than that this Snyder outing is an action packed blockbuster that fans who clamor for an epic Superman fight scenes to see is the real deal. Zimmer should stay out of the way next time hopefully so that more talented composer could stir it at the right direction and no more drum rolls please!


Rocklegend2000
06-12-2013, 02:09 PM
Confirmed.

And so I was back fresh from one of the earliest screening in asia and I did had a good time watching this current reincarnation of Superman. The story is good. The action scenes are wonders to behold but the only thing that really fails is like I first feared the music by Mr. Zimmer. Other than that this Snyder outing is an action packed blockbuster that fans who clamor for an epic Superman fight scenes to see is the real deal. Zimmer should stay out of the way next time hopefully so that more talented composer could stir it at the right direction and no more drum rolls please!

I agree……. but Zimmer will be involved with the sequel unless this film bombs which I can???t see happening and if not Zimmer it???ll be one of his clones…… 🙁

Personally I didn???t like the film…… it reminded me of watching Transformers….. all spectacle with no heart …….


benuit
06-12-2013, 07:03 PM
Take that back! …
No…

for example Blake Visits Wayne Manor very emotional music that gives me goosebumps!!
Goosebumps? Then please close the window … The whole thing is probably very limited,something psychedelic…

the Bane theme…
The problem is … there is no theme. All that stuff is at best generic sound. Domo arigato mr. roboto.


GrannyGooz
06-13-2013, 11:26 AM
but Zimmer will be involved with the sequel unless this film bombs which I can???t see happening and if not Zimmer it???ll be one of his clones……
But who knows? It’s still early to tell perhaps by that time Snyder finally decides to try out somebody else or some scheduling conflict arises? LoL. Just Wishful thinking. If not we could have a big deep, Sigh… to that!

Amanda
06-13-2013, 11:37 AM
And now, an exclusive SyFy "Experiece":

THE THREAD THAT COULD NOT STAY DEAD………:awsm:


GrannyGooz
06-13-2013, 12:55 PM
And now, an exclusive SyFy "Experiece":

THE THREAD THAT COULD NOT STAY DEAD………:awsm:

Not only will it stay undead…It’s multiplying like a bunch of gremlins after being soaked into a bucket of water!! 😀


jubas
06-25-2013, 08:45 PM
This movie is simply fantastic and so is this score by Zimmer. This sits as the best superhero movie as of now.

I hope the complete scoring Session comes out soon here


amh1219
06-25-2013, 10:07 PM
This movie is simply fantastic and so is this score by Zimmer. This sits as the best superhero movie as of now.

*Whispers to self while rocking back and forth*

It’s just an opinion. It’s just an opinion. It’s just. An. Opinion………


HansCastorpMM
06-25-2013, 10:14 PM
Yes, sessions would be very welcomed. i thought the score was amazing, stellar, a masterpiece before seeing the movie. now that i also heard it in context, it sits among the giants.

chancth
08-07-2013, 09:09 AM
But, as mentioned before, Williams’ themes, and that style, will not work with the type of film this is going to be. Looking at trailers and sneak peeks, this film is much darker and more action oriented, with a more modern style of editing. The classic 70 & 80’s Williams would fail miserably in a film like this, I think.

Great OST IMHO. Clearly, Williams music would have sounded outdate. Zimmer write modern music for modern movies . that’s not a bad thing


jubas
08-16-2013, 11:44 PM
still no complete score release for this one. Rather weird isn’t it ?

antovolk
08-17-2013, 12:08 AM
Has someone already posted this? Cuesheet from Hans-Zimmer.com

KRYPTON
ZOD DESBANDS COUNCIL
THE CODEX
SURRENDER THE CODEX
GOODBYES / LAUNCH PREPARATION
THE LAUNCH
ZOD IS CAPTURED
KRYPTON DESTROYED / KAL TO EARTH
OIL RIG RESCUE
YOUNG CLARK FREAKS
BUS RESCUE PT 1
BUS RESCUE PT 2
I JUST WANTED TO HELP
ON THE ROAD AGAIN / MEET LOIS
LOIS INVESTIGATES
THE SCOUT SHIP
THE SCOUT SHIP TAKES OFF
FIRST FLIGHT
HOMECOMING
WHO ARE YOU?
THE TORNADO
THE ANOMALY
UFO / YOU ARE NOT ALONE
LOIS ARRESTED
WHATS ON YOUR MIND?
WHO IS THIS KAL PERSON?
SURRENDER TO FAORA
LOIS AND SUPERMAN BROUGHT BEFORE ZOD
ZOD???S STORY PT 1
ZOD???S STORY PT 2
ESCAPE FROM SHIP
ALIEN SHIPS HEAD TO KANSAS
SUPERMAN RESCUES MOTHER / SMALLVILLE
BATTLE CONTINUES
THIS MAN IS NOT OUR ENEMY
RELEASE THE WORLD ENGINE
ALIEN SHIP ARRIVES
TERRAFORMING
WE HAVE A PLAN / WORLD ENGINE
DESTROY THIS SHIP/FAORA ATTACKS
WE DID IT
KISS
FINAL CONFRONTATION
CLARK KENT ??? REPORTER


naward
09-01-2013, 02:33 AM
Thanks for this1

Dharte
09-19-2013, 02:55 PM
thank you ^^

———- Post added at 10:55 AM ———- Previous post was at 10:52 AM ———-

Hans Zimmer – Man of Steel (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) [Deluxe Edition] [AAC]
Watertower Music / Deluxe Edition / WEB / AAC / 256

https://mega.co.nz/#!AQtAGAQL!CGtwCBxFiK7bNuLmQQdP8x7-vkFelUT6-4_Mbx9O2Cs
guessing the one is iTunes .. lets hope for the flac today 😛

Thank you ^^


brucewayne.bw
03-23-2014, 10:57 PM
I agree……. but Zimmer will be involved with the sequel unless this film bombs which I can???t see happening and if not Zimmer it???ll be one of his clones…… 🙁

Personally I didn???t like the film…… it reminded me of watching Transformers….. all spectacle with no heart …….

With Batman in the picture for the sequel, Zimmer is now doubtful about a return. So let’s hope we get a fresh new direction for the franchise 🙂

But just to be clear, I did not think the movie or the score were terrible, they just could have been better. Zimmers work for Rush was slightly superior I feel


Sn0wGl0be
06-18-2014, 06:05 AM
Has someone already posted this? Cuesheet from Hans-Zimmer.com

Is this an official list? If so, it just made my day. Looks like there is a complete score out there after all. =)


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