Titanic Music/Recording Sessions Discussion Thread

I’m assuming you came from the link I provided in the other thread. If you haven’t come from there, then welcome to the Titanic Music/Recording Sessions Discussion Thread. This thread is for discussing the music of Titanic written by James Horner and all of its dirty secrets until the time comes (and even after that I suppose) when Williamtaylor1969 gets around to receiving approval to release the Recording Sessions for Titanic that he owns. He has stated that he will release these Recording Sessions when he can do said action without compromising his career (hence "receiving approval").

Good luck and lets not totally trash this thread with off topic crap about magical rainbows and ponies (unless it relates to Titanic of course). =)

Here we go everyone… Begin!

In a nutshell….

In a nutshell….

Thanks ever so much for the background…

Sony, Fox and Paramount all have good partnerships with La-La Land but they aren’t farming this score out to anyone, and La-La Land apparently tried to get it. This is the best possible time to ever release a full version of the score itself and they aren’t doing it. They’re spending as little as they can. Compare that to how you see full-on special / collector’s editions of these films themselves that include everything fans could hope for which the studios spend the money on, and it’s just insulting, but in the end it’s smart for Sony music to do it this way. Why spend the money when they don’t need to, right?

Sony, Fox and Paramount all have good partnerships with La-La Land but they aren’t farming this score out to anyone, and La-La Land apparently tried to get it. This is the best possible time to ever release a full version of the score itself and they aren’t doing it. They’re spending as little as they can. Compare that to how you see full-on special / collector’s editions of these films themselves that include everything fans could hope for which the studios spend the money on, and it’s just insulting, but in the end it’s smart for Sony music to do it this way. Why spend the money when they don’t need to, right?

And they wonder why stuff gets leaked? If they were smart they would get it out there before the leak appears.

I guess you’re spaking of that wondrous blog where one could find all those marvellous expanded complete recording sessions special editions thingies by hands zimmer ?

Too bad the blog is closed 🙁

I joke, I joke !! :p

William has PMd me stating that he will relay his story on the thread when he has the time to do so.

If by recently you mean today, then it proves your point even more!

The score will surface eventually, they usually do. Plus I just don’t like being negative.

As for threatening, blackmail, etc., well of course that’s just horrible and wrong, and I certainly hope he doesn’t have to experience that again, by anyone.

The story is William Taylor does not have the recording sessions. Everything he has shared on this forum he has stolen from other sites and various private blogs. He has since gone "underground" because he has been banned from the private blogs and no longer has anything to share.

The notion that he was phoned by Horner and asked not to release his copy of the sessions is nonsense. I know William Taylor and I can assure you the closest he comes to Hollywood is when he goes to the movies.

As far as an expanded Titanic, continue to be patient. It will happen. This was one of the most successful soundtrack albums in history and Sony knows it. It will be done, likely when the Blu Ray comes out. This seems to be the trend lately. When a movie is released on Blu, an expanded soundtrack may be done, ala Ben Hur and the forthcoming Hook.

Good luck. Hope you get what you want.

There’s no way Sony is going to prep their new 4-CD set of both original albums plus two non-score discs to go with it now, at the absolute best possible time (a Blu-ray release is nowhere near as important as this 3D theatrical release in April) only release a true expanded score later on, or farm it out to La-La Land when clearly they don’t want to spend the money on additional score.

There is simply no reason for them to release it later when now is the time and choosing not to release additional score on that upcoming 4-CD set is proof enough of that.

As for the rest, I’m a believe it when I see it type anyway. I have no reason to believe or not to believe anything anyone says about leaking music. Until then it’s just back-and-forth insults with no proof on either side.

And now, back onto my ignore list this Horner hater goes…

Agreed. I’m cynical by nature, so I’ll believe it when I see it …

… but I also hope these recording sessions *do* exist, so I didn’t waste time compiling lists. 🙂

Consider it evidence as to who that person is on this board. Also look at what William posted – quotes from the same user – and you’ll see there’s an agenda here, one that seems pointless considering how much he seems to hate Horner and his music anyway.

wrong thread. :laugh:

cuckoo fail.

I think this is what gwent meant to say.

(Nothin’ but love, Amanda) 🙂

Okay, all is understood. I am deeply sorry for stepping into this thread in the first place; I don’t belong here. Perchance, the appropriate people may once come along again and continue their discussion on the matters of which I am not a part.

We should call Dirk Pitt. He did it once, he should be able to pull it again.

-JCH152

The ASCAP site has many cues registered under Horner’s name for Titanic, and it’s interesting to look through.

Some official cue titles, as taken from the ASCAP website, are as follows:

ABSOLUTION
ROSE FREES JACK
ROWING AWAY
TWO AND A HALF MILES DOWN
TITANIC SUITE
TITANIC/F
TITANIC CUES(HORNER JAMES)
TITANIC SUITE // TITANIC
AL BATHRA
LEAVING PORT // TITANIC
OCEAN OF MEMORIES AN // TITAN
ROSE’S SUICIDE
TRAPPED ON D-DECK
ROSE DU FILM TITANIC
SINKING DU FILM TITANIC
DEATH OF TITANIC DU FILM
AL BATHRA / MAIN TITLE // COUR
BUTTERFLY COMB
ROSE LOOKS FOR JACK 2
TWO AND HALF MILES DOWN
LOVEMAKING PT. I
LOVEMAKING PT. II

SUITE FROM THE TITANIC
TITANIC
DEEP AND TIMELESS SEA
BKG TITANIC
BUILDING PANIC
EPILOGUE / THE DEEP AND TIMELE
ROSE DU FILM TITANIC
GIFT OF A NECKLACE
LEAVING SOUTHAMPTON
KING OF THE WORLD

I’ve also compiled a cue sheet, which includes my own (fake!) titles but with possibilities as to what they could be.

Filmtracks: Titanic (Complete?) Cue List (http://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/index.cgi?read=39140)

-BT7

Yeah, it is. 🙁

Is there any hope that the complete 1 hour and 30 minutes of music from the film will ever be officially released?

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I’d like to take a moment on everyone’s behalf and just say that "this is horses–t". I’m just going to watch it in theatres in April but probably will not spend money on the new soundtrack. We’ll see though.

He said Sony is indeed holding on to Titanic with an iron grip, believing it’s too expensive to release an expanded score (which explains this collector’s release, it’s the cheapest way to cash in since all they have to do is draw up new covers and use existing masters, which don’t cost much of anything in comparison) and don’t want to cater to film music crowds. They want to cater to mass-market audiences.

This is the Google translated quote:

This is not entirely true as Sony, for example, we all elements for Titanic. But Titanic is not going out in full. I proposed to do but Sony did not want, believing that it would be too expensive, and they preferred to fifteen years of the film repeat CD with 4 already published several albums. This is not an evil, but it targets a wide audience and not to true fans of film music. I want to say that for me, the music of people like Tiomkin, Korngold, Rozsa, Steiner, Waxman, Williams and Bernstein are modern expressions of a type that belongs to the classical genre. I put them on a par with Mahler or Camille Saint-Saens. We do not get enough. In general, for the leaders of the major labels, it is a product: if it sells, "very good", if it does not sell, "we do not care in the air." And that I deplore. In the case of Titanic, in my opinion, they have no confidence in the possibility of producing a disc that is sold beyond the standards. Gold standards, at present, have fallen considerably due to i-Tunes and because it is easy to download music illegally on the Internet. Where fifteen years ago, we had sold 17 million copies of Titanic, one wonders today whether they will sell three or four thousand copies! There is a certain fall in sales in certain musical genres, including film music. This is why small labels like La-La Land can afford to come to ask, cheaply, to repeat some of the soundtracks. They speak directly to a specific market, so they know they will sell what they create. A label like Sony will start selling the title without much promotion and not really address the public who is interested. In fact, retail services dealers will not be interested, do not give this product the attention it should, because they may prefer to talk about the new album that Beyonc??? will sell 300,000 copies. These are economic issues that I understand very well, but I regret it creates a huge void in music production in general. We no longer created in the range 50-60 years to support all types of music. To finish with Titanic, we must also say that there are some titles that Sony wants to control. It may be necessary to wait for the twentieth anniversary of the film! Titanic Legacy wanted out and I proposed to recreate the full soundtrack, as understood in the film. There was enough for a double CD. But meanwhile, the traditional division of Columbia who control these records has decided to release it, with this 4 CD box set that includes only existing albums. You have to be flexible and tolerant … "

Unless someone leaks this, you will NEVER hear Titanic in full. That’s the simple fact of it. That’s the reality.

And now they’re gonna sit on it for who knows how long, rather than pass it on to La-La Land etc????? It’s just a damn crying shame.

And somehow that leak we hoped for seems sooooo unlikely now…..

IF the 3D version of the film proves to be a HUGE box office successs, however, I wonder if that changes anything?

Sounds like 2 extra discs full of period source songs. Definite letdown.

The only reason I brought this up was because there was someone on the inside who finally went into detail about why the score won’t come out as an expanded version, just in poorly translated French-to-English. It wasn’t just the usual "La-La asked Sony, they said no".

I think this is the image being used to advertise the re-release of the movie as well (in Europe certainly). I knew there was something odd about it! No masts etc, cargo crane, and most importantly NO CROWS NEST! (No wonder they didn’t see the ‘berg). Crap!

True fans of the score and film do want a collectors edition, this isn’t it. This just proves that Sony really are as brainless and greedy as I suspected.

I’ve yet to see anyone on the online soundtrack world say that this looks like a great set and that they will be buying it. 100% of comments have been more like "what the hell is this crap" and "I won’t be buying it, I’ve cancelled my pre order"

If all of us can see it then Sony can’t have a brain cell to share between them.

It sounds like a rehash of Titanic Suite, which is to be expected … nothing new but would love to hear it in its entirety.

TITANIC Score: The Ship Of Dreams (Unreleased Track) – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqRHtkXgqlk)

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Hi guys! i made this track that i named ”The Ship Of Dreams” i tried to made it much possible similar to the movie version! i recorded the piano cue with my piano! and i made the rest with logic pro and soundtrack pro! i know that there’s some parts different but i hope you like it! 🙂 bye

TITANIC Score: The Ship Of Dreams (Unreleased Track) – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqRHtkXgqlk)

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Hi guys! i made this track that i named ”The Ship Of Dreams” i tried to made it much possible similar to the movie version! i recorded the piano cue with my piano! and i made the rest with logic pro and soundtrack pro! i know that there’s some parts different but i hope you like it! 🙂 bye

TITANIC Score: The Ship Of Dreams (Unreleased Track) – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqRHtkXgqlk)

If only I had any abilities with mixing musics, I’d try myself and would try to give to my fellows fans a fan-made complete that could deserve its name, but that’s unfortunately not the case (even with the excellent tutorial of TheDimensionner, all this is quite to technical for me!). So, I just can hope that someone, like you, will do it and manage one day to rebuild this Score which is a real wreck! All my encouragements to you! Congratulations again and thanks!

Two entirely separate pieces of music. One is a cue for the film, one is a ‘concert’ or ‘album’ version. ‘Southampton’ is the most basic representation of the two Titanic themes, in a straight-forward song format. The cue in the film is a bigger, more elaborate piece of score.

The Mask of Zorro had a similar cue, titled ‘Zorro’s Theme’. It was a concert version of the theme, reduced to its basic format which is why it didn’t have any of the Spanish / Flamenco instrumentation.

In the complete score for Avatar, there were several cues that were included tagged "CD mix" to identify them as versions recorded for an album.

Feel free to express your disappointment at this pathetic excuse for a collectors edition soundtrack. The more posts the better. If anything at least they will know that we aren’t happy.

If only I had any abilities with mixing musics, I’d try myself and would try to give to my fellows fans a fan-made complete that could deserve its name, but that’s unfortunately not the case (even with the excellent tutorial of TheDimensionner, all this is quite to technical for me!). So, I just can hope that someone, like you, will do it and manage one day to rebuild this Score which is a real wreck! All my encouragements to you! Congratulations again and thanks!

Thank you very very much! i’m very happy to see that you like my work! 🙂 i was working in it from a week to made it must similar to the score! i will do some changing to render it better than now, in time i will post you the other my work about ”i’m the king of the world” and ”the heart of the ocean” (the ending theme) the problem for mixing tracks is that the score that we hear in the movie result with more pitch and tune, this is because most movies will speeded of 4% for the fps adaption from 24 fps (cinema) and 25fps blockbuster version Pal/Ntsc, and the audio of the movie are bad!! and not clean! but we will solve this problem with the blu ray version that run in region free in original frame rate! 🙂 so for this the remixing is too difficult! but no one can stop me 🙂 i continue with my works hoping you like them! thank you very very much again for your appreciation! 🙂

The Heart Of The Ocean:
TITANIC Score: The Heart of The Ocean (Ending Theme Unreleased) – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrPhRM1zu08)

I’m The King of The World:
TITANIC Score: I’m The King of The World (Unreleased) – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WjZJePXmY4)

The Titanic Sinking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPxpPGdLa9E

Ciao! 🙂 i’m italian so I’m sorry if sometimes i don’t write good! XD

– The music we hear when Jack and Fabrizio run on the docks. It sounds like irish music. I can’t find this music. Contrary to what many people pretend, it’s not "Jack Dawuson’s Luck" that we can find in the "Back to Titanic" Album, it’s something else. In this site (Filmtracks: Titanic (Complete?) Cue List (http://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/index.cgi?read=39140)), they say it’s one the tracks previously composed by Horner for the film "Heaven help us"/"The Catholic Boys", but I never could find this track anywhere, the score is too rare.
– The music we hear when the ship leaves the port. There are some elements, of course, of "Leaving Port", but that’s not all. We miss the most important to me, the chorus we hear when Jack and Brizio say goodbye to the crowd.

And of course, there is all the sinking part which is a real mess. Fortunately, I think that this is "just" a matter of montage and mixing because, as far as I can hear in the movie, we already possess all the elements in the realeased CDs, it’s now "just" about put the puzzle piece in the right order. What a mess ><

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Dear fellows, I found an interview of Dider C. Deutsch, a guy who works for Sony and who is a specialist of scores, and particularly the edition of complete score ; he says he is finishing, at present, a new complete score of "Hook" by John Williams with the label "La La Land Records"!
The intervew is in french. As I’m french, I could read it and it’s very interesting. He explains his work with the scores, with "La La Land", his vision of film music nowadays… and he speaks about "Titanic"! He explains why "Titanic" complete score will not be released ><. I tried to translate what he says in english ; I’m not sure my translation worth better that an automatic Google one, but, I tried…

[Here is the link for the complete interview, in case your can read french : http://www.underscores.fr/index.php/2012/03/interview-didier-c-deutsch/]

"For example, we have all the elements for ??? Titanic ???. But “Titanic” will not be released complete. I proposed to do it, but Sony did not want, thinking that it would be too expensive, and they preferred release 4CD from previous albums for the 15th anniversary of the film. It’s not bad, but it’s addressed to a large audience and not to the true fans of films scores. […] In general, for leaders of the big labels it’s just a product : if we sell it, “very good”, if we don’t sell it, “back off!”. And this, I deplore. In the case of “Titanic”, to me, they don’t trust the possibility to product a disc that will sell beyond expectations. And, expectations, nowadays, have considerably lowered because of i-Tunes and because it’s easy to download illegally music on the Internet. 15 years ago, we sold 17 millions of “Titanic” OST, we wonder today if we will sell 3000 or 4000! There is a real fall of the sells in some kind of musics, included the film music. That’s why little labels like “La La Land” can afford to come and ask, for low cost, to reedit some scores. They directly address to a very specific audience so they know they will sell what they create. A label like Sony is going to sell a CD without real promotion and without addressing to the public which is really interested. So, sellers will not be interested, will not give to the product the attention he deserves, for they prefer maybe promote the new disc of Beyonc??? which will be sold at 300 000 unities. This are economic issues that I perfectly understand, but I regret that we create a big gap in the musical production in general. […] To finish with “Titanic”, I have to say that there is as well some tracks that Sony want to control. Maybe we’ll have to wait the 20th anniversary of the film! “Legacy” label wanted to release “Titanic” and I had proposed to recreate the complete score, as we hear it in the movie. There was enough stuffs for 2 CD. Mais, meanwhile, the classic division of Columbia which controls these recordings decided to release it, with this 4CD box which only compiles previously released albums. We have to be flexible and tolerant."

I think about this quote by the Argentian in Moulin Rouge : "The boy has talent!… Nothing funny. I love talent!". How do you do this? The transitions are so softs and some little pieces of music are not on CD’s, that’s just crazy but, so beautiful to hear! At last, that beloved missing tracks found their way till our ears thanks to you! Thank you so much for this work! The most amazing is that we can have the misleading impression that this is easy, but in fact it must be such a drag to put the pieces in the good order!

Well, two new tracks, two legendary tracks which are at last ours! The famous "Lucky ticket" (I never noticed there was such a strong drum in the background of the music!) and, of course, "The Sinking".

Well, my dear jeanbaker, if you continue like this, if you find the will and the means to do the same work on all the tracks, I think that you could be the very first (competent) guy to create a complete score of Titanic without a single SFX!… "which makes you… my new best friend!", as Broke Lovett would say! No, seriously ; it would go against the great "sharing" philosophia of the Internet, but some people would pay expensive price to get these precious tracks you offer us! Only "4" views on YouTube, I just want to yell "Hey, people, don’t you realise there is at last these bloody tracks we were looking for!".

Soon, I think I will have used all the different ways to thank you! "Go on", dude! That’s great work!

I kind of hate this thread as much as the last one, since it’s all for nothing but a bad reminder that this is not happening.

By the way, what is the "Butterfly cue"? You mean this piano music we hear when Rose remembers or finds her comb? Do you mean this track :
Titanic Original Score (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egArwAR7ucM&feature=BFa&list=PL662ED61EB6F6B282&lf=plcp)

The quality of the sound is not very good, but… better than nothing…

I went to a 10:30PM showing of the film in 3D last night so I’m thinking a lot about both the film and score, so knowing about all of this lack-of-music stuff we’ve been teased with endlessly just frustrates me more than ever.

On the plus side, I wholeheartedly recommend seeing the film in 3D. It was absolutely spectacular in every sense. Like watching it for the first time, even though I’ve lost count how many times I’ve seen it. It was perfection from beginning to end.

Meeeh…it’s not like they’re sharing a full album. I guess a few tracks remade by someone are OK. just take CodyAP09 who posted his conceptual score in another thread…Technically he shouldn’t have. but as no mod seems to see a problem there, ergo there’s not really a problem 😀

TITANIC Score: Departure (Unreleased) – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTQa8mfGtgY)

No need to keep popping in here to make it a downer all the time. Let those of us who want to discuss the music do so in peace.

So, for "The departure", the real challenge is in the chorus we hear when the crowd says goodbye.
– 0s-12s : This is the original introduction of the track "Leaving port". I was surprised to find it in your track because I thought we did not hear it at all in the movie ; I checked and, indeed, behind a lot of SFX and noise, we hear something like this, but I think it’s shorter in the movie than on the album.
– 12s-35s : One of your miracles ; you exactly obtain the same music than in the film an that we can’t found on the albums! So, waw! Great work!
– 35s-45s : Here is the big challenge, the "Final problem", like Moriarty would say. I see what you tried to do ; your transition is very soft and so good, but the sound is not exactly the good one, I think. You used the chorus from "Southampton", but as you must have noticed, this chorus is quite different. Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems more "feminine" and "high-pitched" to me in the movie. This declinaison is not on the albums, so, it must be difficult or maybe impossible to get it. I don’t know. But that’s a very nice try!
– 46s – The end : The end of the track seems perfect, like in the movie!

Thanks for your work and congratulations for your motivation! Seriously, I think this topic is not useless at all! Hell! We just got some very "collector" tracks the way we hear them in the movie thanks to jeanbaker! That’s not nothing!

So, for "The departure", the real challenge is in the chorus we hear when the crowd says goodbye.
– 0s-12s : This is the original introduction of the track "Leaving port". I was surprised to find it in your track because I thought we did not hear it at all in the movie ; I checked and, indeed, behind a lot of SFX and noise, we hear something like this, but I think it’s shorter in the movie than on the album.
– 12s-35s : One of your miracles ; you exactly obtain the same music than in the film an that we can’t found on the albums! So, waw! Great work!
– 35s-45s : Here is the big challenge, the "Final problem", like Moriarty would say. I see what you tried to do ; your transition is very soft and so good, but the sound is not exactly the good one, I think. You used the chorus from "Southampton", but as you must have noticed, this chorus is quite different. Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems more "feminine" and "high-pitched" to me in the movie. This declinaison is not on the albums, so, it must be difficult or maybe impossible to get it. I don’t know. But that’s a very nice try!
– 46s – The end : The end of the track seems perfect, like in the movie!

Thanks for your work and congratulations for your motivation! Seriously, I think this topic is not useless at all! Hell! We just got some very "collector" tracks the way we hear them in the movie thanks to jeanbaker! That’s not nothing!

Thank you so much for all you say! Yeah this track is very hard to do! I wrong the chorus at the end, cus i was distracted by mixing other parts Lol i got it when i finished it! Anyway i will get back to this track again later! The chorus i think is a speeded remixed version of the chorus of leaving port! But i’m not sure right now! Or maybe the chorus of a part of take her to sea mr murdoch! But anyway we should have it somewhere in the album, we only just find it, tomorrow i will check about this, thank you man! We see at the next! Oow i dont know if it will be useful for something or nothing, but next week i meet the director of sony television (italy division) ( for a tv show i’m making) and i will ask him about this score, and if there’s any way to get it in private, and then i will share with you, ahahahah! But its only a think for now.

Great way to keep the team’s morale up. It’ll eventually leak or get released officially when Horner passes away or something. Never say never in this day and age.

Someone thinks they are the forum police.

I’ll have fun re posting Amanda’s never never posts when the score is leaked or released officially, and saying told you so. I think she’s just tring to get a rise out of us and having the last word.

We get the point you’re trying to make but it doesn’t mean we have to agree with it. 😉 I mean several people always said that we would never get a proper Friday the 13th album because Paramount execs are douches like that but we got not just a complete first score, we got 6. Add to that the fact that the masters were apparently gone. Yeah, an official Titanic album sounds unlikely (which it is) but it’ll leak eventually. Maybe not in the perceivable future but eventually.

(my above post was joke BTW.)

(my above post was joke BTW.)

I know. I didn’t think anybody could seriously be that negative. The studios know there are demands for more score and you know they’re gonna milk the franchise for all that it’s worth so who knows the coupe de gras could be an official complete score. Just an idea.

I need to make a remix or something of that…

The best and closest chance we have had is from William, who has remained relatively quiet about it lately.

Yeah yeah yeah, whatever you say. Titanic is so unique among film scores that it will never be released

Only for the time being. They say no to Intrada or La la land now, but that doesn’t mean they won’t say yes at a later Date. As long as there are record labels willing to try and fans who are willing to buy there is always hope there.

And if William is to be believed (and why would he lie?) there are other copies of the recording sessions floating around in other peoples hands.

It will emerge one day, mark my words

if so, than there is hope for the next release, if it has stuff not on the others….

it wil never happen though.

But with the sessions it’d be much easier to create your own film versions.

The original album is an instrumental score album and that sold 26 million copies worldwide.

Even a fraction of that will be good money to any record label.

As you say Avatar is only a few couple of years old, plenty of time for an official release there one day in the future too.

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Not to mention Avatar was a horribly butchered album while Titanic already received a pretty decent album release even if it wasn’t complete. I saw the 3D version of Titanic today and honestly there were maybe 2 or 3 cues I wouldn’t mind having but the rest was too buried under SFX to really grab me. Also, I had heard that Horner only recorded about 2 hours and 15 minutes or so of music so it could easily fit across 2 CDs and still sell out if it was a limited release. That would still leave room for some alternates but I agree completely that an official complete score just doesn’t sound likely at all but I have no doubt that it’ll leak at some point once Paramount and Sony are done milking the cow dry and decide to take it off their radar. Honestly I don’t think it’ll publicly leak just simply because it would spread like wildfire and catch a lot of attention.

Sure they missed the boat (pun intended) this time, but this score is movie Titanic related, not the ship.

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Which is why I say, leaving out a "complete" release, I would have settled now for just a single disc release of film edit cues. 😕

Right about now I’d settle for the Main Title and film version of Rose.

I’m wondering if Sissels involvement is what might make this more expensive than usual.

That was Enya, or was that for the first film.

Sissel was integral to the entire score with Titanic though. Must make it more complicated.

what song is this Sissel you speak of??
Is it on the complete recordings?

I’ll have fun re posting Amanda’s never never posts when the score is leaked or released officially, and saying told you so. I think she’s just tring to get a rise out of us and having the last word.

I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS LONGER THAN ANYONE.

You want to harp on someone, harp on me about it. All she’s done is repeat what I’ve been saying all along, not out of negativity, but out of simple reality. Everything she’s said, wishful thinking and all, I’ve been saying this whole time. There is NO reason in the world to think this will ever see the light of day.

I’m not trying to "get a rise" out of anyone. I’m being completely realistic. Nothing more, nothing less.

You want to harp on someone, harp on me about it. All she’s done is repeat what I’ve been saying all along, not out of negativity, but out of simple reality. Everything she’s said, wishful thinking and all, I’ve been saying this whole time. There is NO reason in the world to think this will ever see the light of day.

I’m not trying to "get a rise" out of anyone. I’m being completely realistic. Nothing more, nothing less.

In saying all that there is also NO reason in the world to think it won’t.

Guess I’m just more of a "glass half full" kinda person unlike you and Amanda

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WE’RE OUTNUMBERED MAN!!! GAME OVER!!

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*breath slows down rapidly*

It’s….it’s just too much…

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jeanbaker, I had no idea untill now that it was you who re created the Alive theme for guitar, thanks so much. Next to Titanic that score, including the James Newton Howard’s alternate cues from the 20 years later documentary, is my most wanted complete score. Your version of the documentarys closing theme is note perfect. Awesome.

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It was intended for the houses of healing scene but that sequence was cut in the theatrical version of the movie. When that scene was added in the extended edition it was then replaced by the Arwen’s song. They both appear in the complete recordings soundtracks though.

I’ll have fun re posting Amanda’s never never posts when the score is leaked or released officially, and saying told you so. I think she’s just tring to get a rise out of us and having the last word.

Back off, chummer. Amanda isn’t trying to get a rise out of anybody. she is technically right when she says no DL links are allowed in the GD forum. But practically speakin’ there are exceptions.

As for a release…No. she’s probably right on that one. if you didn’t get a full release now, on the ideal date for it, you won’t get it. Sony doesn’t want it released by a third party, like LalaLand or Intrada, and that’s it. WOuldn’t be the only score that never got a decent complete release of its original recording: Blade Runner, Conan (although Intrada seems to be working on that one), and many others NEVER had (and likely never will have) any "official complete releases". Hell, Even Hook, didn’t get one, although LaLaland’s CD is awesome, and a beautiful tribute to the movie. And don’t get me started on the Star Wars movies. So no. outside of fan edits, nothing will ever see the light of day. unless someone’s crazy enough to risk his job leaking such a sensitive piece of music, which would be a sure way to be both fired and blacklisted in the music industry.

Who said it has to be a complete release, I know I’d be happy with just an expanded one. And don’t try to tell me that never happens as it seems we get several a month lately.

jeanbaker, I had no idea untill now that it was you who re created the Alive theme for guitar, thanks so much. Next to Titanic that score, including the James Newton Howard’s alternate cues from the 20 years later documentary, is my most wanted complete score. Your version of the documentarys closing theme is note perfect. Awesome.

Thank youRJ1979, i love the Alive soundtrack! and i tried to make that guitar theme cus i love it! i’m so glad you like it! i’m so sorry for my titanic score version of editing! maybe you expect something better than that! but i promise i’ll get back to that tracks! especially in Departure! the sinking is better than original! cus some dissolve points are bad in the movie version and out timing, i tried to set them as good possible! well guys, even if we will never see the score released! there’s more possibilities to get them in private, just to know the right persons. ^^ bye

I read everything and… it’s funny, because… I was told that this topic was useless, and I defended that it was not because we had, thanks to jeanbaker, some new tracks very close to the film version, at last! And, now, there is a little war about "There will never be any complete score", "There will be a complete", "no", "yes", "no", "yes", "no"… Yeah, now, this topic is definitely useless if it’s just about pretending that there will be or not a complete.

I first posted here to share my anger, like you, about the Anniversary Edition.
Then, miracle, jeanbaker shared an edit of him which is, honestly, the best one I even heard! I’ve been looking for a good fan-complete score of Titanic for years, like you, I downloaded so many versions, I had so many disapointments with too much SFX, noise, bad quality sound… and I’m just happy to hear jeanbaker’s work because it just fits! Don’t you think? Of course, it’s not perfect, and it’s not the official! But I could not do what he did, and nobody here seems able to do better, as far as I see. So, of course, we have the right to think that it’s pointless if we are just interested by official cues ; but, as I’m not sure they’ll ever come, I’m so happy people like jeanbaker give a try, and what a try! It’s a good work! If someone better than him comes one day, great! But, for now, at last, there are cues from Titanic that are very, very close to the film version (or exactly the same) and with an excellent quality, so I can listen to them! So cool!

To give my point of view about it, me too, when I saw that the Anniversary edition was not the complete, I thought : "Ok, game over." Because, yes, if they don’t do it for the 100th anniversary of the sinking and the 15th anniversary of movie and the 3D version, when will they do? Yes, there will be other anniversaries, but so symbolic? Not sure. So, yes, it seems very compromised to me too, but, we never know! We can’t be totally sure. It’s just intuition, logic, pronostics, but, why not?

The point is that, as we don’t know yet if there will be a complete or not, we can try to get some cue thanks to the talent or relations of some of us! Some fan-made scores are better than official albums, we know that! It’s harder for some films than other, but, it’s possible. I thought it was totally impossible for Titanic, but jeanbaker just proved the contrary! Am I the only one to think that he made something awsome? Did you listen to the his edit of "Ending scene"? It’s great! I never found such a good version before! That’s not nothing for me! Waiting for the complete Score (or never have it) will be more bearable thanks to these tracks!

I agree with Amanda about one thing (even if I don’t know Cameron’s methods as well as her) : there is the complete music as Horner composed it for the film, and there is the complete music as we hear it the film. The sonorities, the effects are a bit different in the film, we notice that something is different, sometimes, in the music, so, someone must have mixed, modified the music of James Horner. So… what is our priority? Personnaly, I’m interested by both of them ; music composed by Horner, and music as heard is the film. jeanbaker tries to get the music as heard in the film! I think it’s what I prefer. So, I think Amanda is right to explain this, that the music we’re looking for was altered, modified by Cameron or someone of the crew and it makes the music very, very hard (or impossible) to find and to re-create by fans!

So, I wrote a lot. Nethertheless, I’m not here to talk for hours about this missing score, because, we all agree that this is such a shame ; we only don’t share the same trust and hope in seeing it edited in the future. So, that’s all. Nothing to add. The real interest of this topic, for me, it’s the tracks edited by jeanbaker (or someone else!). About download links… there are not download here. Just links for videos. But, if it’s really a problem, we can create a special topic for the works of jeanbaker or other fans who would try to create fan-made tracks.

I read everything and… it’s funny, because… I was told that this topic was useless, and I defended that it was not because we had, thanks to jeanbaker, some new tracks very close to the film version, at last! And, now, there is a little war about "There will never be any complete score", "There will be a complete", "no", "yes", "no", "yes", "no"… Yeah, now, this topic is definitely useless if it’s just about pretending that there will be or not a complete.

I first posted here to share my anger, like you, about the Anniversary Edition.
Then, miracle, jeanbaker shared an edit of him which is, honestly, the best one I even heard! I’ve been looking for a good fan-complete score of Titanic for years, like you, I downloaded so many versions, I had so many disapointments with too much SFX, noise, bad quality sound… and I’m just happy to hear jeanbaker’s work because it just fits! Don’t you think? Of course, it’s not perfect, and it’s not the official! But I could not do what he did, and nobody here seems able to do better, as far as I see. So, of course, we have the right to think that it’s pointless if we are just interested by official cues ; but, as I’m not sure they’ll ever come, I’m so happy people like jeanbaker give a try, and what a try! It’s a good work! If someone better than him comes one day, great! But, for now, at last, there are cues from Titanic that are very, very close to the film version (or exactly the same) and with an excellent quality, so I can listen to them! So cool!

To give my point of view about it, me too, when I saw that the Anniversary edition was not the complete, I thought : "Ok, game over." Because, yes, if they don’t do it for the 100th anniversary of the sinking and the 15th anniversary of movie and the 3D version, when will they do? Yes, there will be other anniversaries, but so symbolic? Not sure. So, yes, it seems very compromised to me too, but, we never know! We can’t be totally sure. It’s just intuition, logic, pronostics, but, why not?

The point is that, as we don’t know yet if there will be a complete or not, we can try to get some cue thanks to the talent or relations of some of us! Some fan-made scores are better than official albums, we know that! It’s harder for some films than other, but, it’s possible. I thought it was totally impossible for Titanic, but jeanbaker just proved the contrary! Am I the only one to think that he made something awsome? Did you listen to the his edit of "Ending scene"? It’s great! I never found such a good version before! That’s not nothing for me! Waiting for the complete Score (or never have it) will be more bearable thanks to these tracks!

I agree with Amanda about one thing (even if I don’t know Cameron’s methods as well as her) : there is the complete music as Horner composed it for the film, and there is the complete music as we hear it the film. The sonorities, the effects are a bit different in the film, we notice that something is different, sometimes, in the music, so, someone must have mixed, modified the music of James Horner. So… what is our priority? Personnaly, I’m interested by both of them ; music composed by Horner, and music as heard is the film. jeanbaker tries to get the music as heard in the film! I think it’s what I prefer. So, I think Amanda is right to explain this, that the music we’re looking for was altered, modified by Cameron or someone of the crew and it makes the music very, very hard (or impossible) to find and to re-create by fans!

So, I wrote a lot. Nethertheless, I’m not here to talk for hours about this missing score, because, we all agree that this is such a shame ; we only don’t share the same trust and hope in seeing it edited in the future. So, that’s all. Nothing to add. The real interest of this topic, for me, it’s the tracks edited by jeanbaker (or someone else!). About download links… there are not download here. Just links for videos. But, if it’s really a problem, we can create a special topic for the works of jeanbaker or other fans who would try to create fan-made tracks.

i Agree in all you say! about the original soundtrack or piece re-recorded for the movie here’s a little point to say! that bastards (in good sense) have the full OST that include the entire sets of channels of full orchestra instruments (solo recorded at the same time) then after that its too too tooooo simple mixing the tracks for compose the movie! cus they have all the elements! for example the final scene! the music used was from the ost, unable to stay.. this track is in stereo and had two channels! too little for a remixing for extract only the instruments we would to leave! instead the track recorded from them that had one channel for instrument!! LOL this is the problem for do a custom score, the only thing i can made is to get the all effects and synth used for the movie and compose it from zero! and is too hard.

So, here it becomes really frustrating ><

um….?

Who said it has to be a complete release, I know I’d be happy with just an expanded one. And don’t try to tell me that never happens as it seems we get several a month lately.

not a fortune teller, but some pragmatic guy. Sony has no interest releasing it, and if they didn’t release it this time, that leaves the movie 20th/25th anniversary. In over words around 2017/2022.and that still seems pretty far fetched to me.

No need to call people fortune tellers or ill omens just because they don’t share your optimism, bub.

No need to call people fortune tellers or ill omens just because they don’t share your optimism, bub.

When people start posting that things will never happen you can pretty much guarantee that they eventually will.

Didn’t they say that the Titanic would never sink, and look how that turned out.

I’m a born pessimist anyway. Thus, I’m never disappointed .

I’m in no hurry.

Haha, I remember making that complete cue list. Only some of the titles are official, the rest I "Horner-ized" 😛 He uses very dramatic wording for his cues so I tried to emulate that.

If you’re interested, I have a rip of the "lucky ticket" scene from a copy of the film with most dialogue removed or softened, but still sound effects. I’m guessing this would be the "Leaving Southampton" cue registered with the ASCAP.

Titanic Unreleased Score – Winning the Ticket/Leaving Southampton – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPnsdDnM8aM)

-Kevin

So, you are the author of the excellent cue list inspired by the ASCAP? Well, that’s great to meet you and tell you that it is excellent work that I often consulted when I tried to create a complete score!

About the track you made, yeah, I already know it! I made so many research for Titanic score, I think I have all we can have, even the worst! Your track is the best I had heard because, indeed, you managed to get rid of the voices! But, the work of jeanbaker is just amazing. About the irish music of "lucky ticket", he made this track, very short, but the best we can find, without any SFX and very clear sound!
Titanic Music: The Lucky Ticket – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RutaG9Gncak&feature=BFa&list=UURAL8R74yxi5ca34HLHsidw&lf=plcp)
But, what disturbs me is the drums we hear that are very strong ; I think it’s not so strong or totally absent in the movie. Well, that’s an excellent work though.

About the "Leaving port", jeanbaker made something great, but the difficulty is with the chorus ; I’m pretty sure that we have it on the albums, but I don’t have the "musical ear" at all, so, I’m a little bit confused. I think that with the good chorus and a shorter intro (it’s not so long in the movie), it would be perfect!

Well, thanks you guys, all those who use their abilities and talent to try to create a complete score! It’s such a pleasure to listen to this!

P.S. I love your avatar, bandtrumper7!

The drums are there because that’s the version from Heaven Help Us. Horner re-recorded it for the film and varied it slightly, so there’s less of a percussive beat. It also sounds a bit crisper … don’t know how else to put it. The theme appears three times in the movie; when Jack and Fabrizio are running towards the ship, when Jack and Rose are being chased by Lovejoy, and later as a continuation of that scene when they’re running through the boiler room.

As to whether or not the score will be released, I’m half hopeful and half pragmatic. Part of me thinks that this is such an amazing score and it deserves release, even by bootleg; the other half knows that this is something that is not sanctioned by Paramount or Sony or Fox or anyone else, and the discs locked in a vault are precisely that … locked in a vault. So the chances of me getting to hear it are slim to none … but that leads back to the hopeful part. It’s a cycle. I think everyone here has good points, though, and I’m at least glad to talk about the score and see that other people are as passionate about it as I am!

The Lucky Ticket:
TITANIC SCORE: The Lucky Ticket (Unreleased) – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQi2xPlOn-o)

Boiler Room:
TITANIC Score: Boiler Room (Unreleased) – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgtDmmD2vk0)

Hey, jeanbaker! Great to see you again! And, as usual, you don’t come with empty hands! Great work! Congrat’ for your two tracks! They are perfect! Just as we hear them in the movie! I love you, guy! Go on like this! I just can’t other edits from you! I have the impression to rebuild a vaste puzzle that I thought I’d never hear! Thank you so much dude and see you soon for other tracks, I hope!

TITANIC Score Unreleased – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=TITANIC+Score+Unreleased&oq=TITANIC+Score+Unreleased&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=youtube-reduced.3…75161.82526.0.83469.3.3.0.0.0.0.121.29 1.2j1.3.0).

hopes, shades… sunk.

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Of course, this is a matter of purely personal preference. I cannot abide any amount of fx, it sucks out the fun for me. So for me, nothing is better than having an fx filled rip. Also, in this case, we do have the official OST’s, and despite the flaws, that IS better than nothing. But again, to each thier own.

Don’t worry, I had understood what you meant! And, of course, me too, I was ready to pay if a real good anniversary edition was released, it would have been a real pleasure to get the object and to support Horner’s work. I just agree with Amanda about SFX, I’m too sensible to them, so, I prefer, personnaly, nothing than that! And by "nothing", I mean, in fact, the 2 official CD, which are not really nothing but just the worst OST montage I’ve ever seen!

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There’s an old say that cam from Serenity…
Can’t stop the signal, Mal.
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Of course Amanda! No problem, i will made a download link of zip file with the all pieces i made! ^^ yes as we know the sinking movie version contain various mixed tracks, but edited in some parts, i used "the sinking OST" "a building panic" and "death of titanic" in the movie version we dont hear the bad result of the editing because the sfx, but if you take a particular look to listen very well it, you would hear some timing split and other things, i tried to made it better without that problems.
I wanna ask you guys for complete my track of departure, i cant find the choir osttracker’s said, enyone could listen that part and tell me (if there is) in what part of the ost i have to looking for? I still thinking a remixed edited version of leaving port choir but i’m not sure at all.
For any people wanna try to extract the music from the movie, i wanna say that you can delete all sfx you want if you know the frequency level of that sound leaving the other, its very difficult way but its only way to do that, and you have to know the exactly frequence of that sfx, i listen the first eye meet and the only way for do that is, try to delete the sfx in that way, or made it by zero, with my piano and record all instruments that are in that part. But it would be a long work i think. Thank you guys, seeya soon (:

I personally can’t speak to the technical or accuracy aspects, but I am quite enjoying your work, tank you.

Well, about "The Departure", it’s very hard for me because I don’t have the musical ear at all, I see what kind of ton we hear in the movie, but, when I try to find it in the official tracks, I’m lost and confused, I can’t materialise, in my mind, a note or a sound. But… I tried, because I really want to help you! I’m so grateful for you work. So, I listened as carefully as I could and, my hypothesis is that the good "chorus" is in "Leaving Port" track. What we hear between 24’s and 30’s or what we hear between 30’s and 39’s. But, it’s possible that in the movie, this chorus is altered, maybe the speed is not the same, it’s been modified, really I don’t know. Just an idea. What would confirm that is 1) The title (after all, the track is "Leaving port" 2) After the chorus, we can hear in the film the same "steel noise" that in the official Score. That’s all what I can say about this.

Go on like this, dear jeanbaker! And thanks again! We enjoy your work!

EDIT : I made some tries with "Leaving Port" chorus and Audacity. I think it’s the good one, particularly between 30’s-39’s, but I’m pretty sure it’s been modified. I tested with effect like "Speed" or "Tempo" and, even if it was not very good (I suck with Audacity, too complex for me unfortunately), the results are interesting!

or as if scenes were deleted/the scene was reedited so they had to edit the music to fit the scene……..

https://hotfile.com/dl/152324592/fff2800/Titanic_Score_(Jeanbaker).zip.html

i hope you like my works! thank you guys! you’re the best! 🙂

PS. i’m sorry if you could hear a little bit of sfx in departure! but its very little i don’t think could make you angry! XD

Understood! But what you mean with the ending title? You dont like my work in ending theme? I tried to made it as similar possible to the movie overadd the tracks for be sure of the time a nd split, so can you tell me what’s wrong with it? Anyway for other themes, i will work on it, but just give me time, i’m an actor and i’m so busy in this period, hope you understand, but trust me i will be back soon. Ciao e buona pizza e spaghetti a tutti! sia belli che brutti! 🙂

LOL 😛

I did not understand what you mean, theodred27 by "Ending Title", because the "Ending Scene" edit by jeanbaker is just perfect and, if you mean the end-title, there are not any SFX, just the song and the Horner suite in the second part. You can easily find a good audio rip of this on YouTube, I think, or in any complete, because it’s the easiest to get. But maybe you meant something else.

About the whishlist, in fact, the true whishlist is… all the film score. Here is the final problem! Because, even the pieces we have on the official scores, they are not in the good order or in the good montage. So, there are two types of cues 1) Official ones to "cut" and "paste" in the good order and the good montage 2) Cues that are not in the CD’s and that must be "ripped" properly, without SFX. So, it’s just hell! I think jeanbaker can’t do this all alone, it’s too much work, or he’ll need a looooot of time and support. I’m ready to help him as much as I can, but unfortunately, it means not much, because I don’t have his master with music and mixing programs. I just know very well the score as I heard it in the CD’s or in the film, so I can figure if a track is near or far from the "good version", but that’s all. I know that some people here, in FFshrine are very good for fan-made complete ; it would be great if you could work as a team, but it depends of movitation and methods of everyone.

So, about Titanic, everything must be started from scratch ; there is the "Opening Titles" but also "The exploration of the Wreck", a good montage of the "Keldysh scenes", "Rose’s Suicide attempt", "Hard to Starboard, film version", "The Sinking, Part 1" (all what we hear before the EXCELLENT edit by jeanbaker, which means "The building Panic", the scenes where Rose saves Jack, the kid trapped in the hallway, Jack & Rose trapped the 3rd Class gate with the water beeing higher, etc. Lot of missing cues or just cues we already have but which need to be put in the good order, isolated. Hell, I said!

Thanks a lot, jeanbaker for the link! And all what you’ve done! Thanks to you, we got more for 10 days than since 10 years! Real good track like in the film and with no SFX! It’s priceless!

So, about Titanic, everything must be started from scratch ; there is the "Opening Titles" but also "The exploration of the Wreck", a good montage of the "Keldysh scenes", "Rose’s Suicide attempt", "Hard to Starboard, film version", "The Sinking, Part 1" (all what we hear before the EXCELLENT edit by jeanbaker, which means "The building Panic", the scenes where Rose saves Jack, the kid trapped in the hallway, Jack & Rose trapped the 3rd Class gate with the water beeing higher, etc. Lot of missing cues or just cues we already have but which need to be put in the good order, isolated. Hell, I said!
I agree , the real whislist is the complete score. But for now , my curiosity is focused on the tracks that I told about. Therefore I was not thinking about the tracks you are mentioning but if Jean makes something with it I hope it will come soon.

It was a last minute decision (in Cameron’s commentary he said he wanted sad music for the opening title sequence).

If you or anyone have the .vob (dvd) file of this deleted scene i will try to extract and clean the music! I had it in my 4 dvd collection but i lost it, if no one have it, well i wait the blu ray 3d version and i will extract from that, 🙂

I do have the Deluxe 4 DVD Edition. But, I don’t know how I can get a ".vob" file from it. So…

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tu peux utiliser ???a
YadeX 1.0 – VideoHelp.com Downloads (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/YadeX)

I do have the Deluxe 4 DVD Edition. But, I don’t know how I can get a ".vob" file from it. So…

Hi friend! 🙂 well you can try with ultraiso, or clonedvd, or dvd shrink clonedvd let choice you what file to copy then i think is better clone! But even dvd shrink i think let you choice something try it and keep me informed! ^^

If you have a mac is more simple just drag and drop the vob file from the dvd folder to your desktop.

R.I.P.

100 years.

To watch the movie was the occasion to listen once again to the music carefully! So many beautiful tracks we miss!

I’m gonna try to extrate the DVD, but I’m not sure it will work. I’m not very good with these kind of things. As soon as I have something, I post it here. My DVD is Region 2, I hope it’s not a problem (about the speed of the images or the music, the frames or something like that!)

jeanbaker, I listened to your new edits versions you sent to us, particularly "The Departure"! I Think it’s nearly the good version! Really! I just think that the intro is really shorter and that that the chorus must be introduced directly, without the little "drum effect" we hear between 26’s and 27’s. I wanted to try myself to modify the file, but the "m4a" format did not allow it.

To watch the movie was the occasion to listen once again to the music carefully! So many beautiful tracks we miss!

I’m gonna try to extrate the DVD, but I’m not sure it will work. I’m not very good with these kind of things. As soon as I have something, I post it here. My DVD is Region 2, I hope it’s not a problem (about the speed of the images or the music, the frames or something like that!)

jeanbaker, I listened to your new edits versions you sent to us, particularly "The Departure"! I Think it’s nearly the good version! Really! I just think that the intro is really shorter and that that the chorus must be introduced directly, without the little "drum effect" we hear between 26’s and 27’s. I wanted to try myself to modify the file, but the "m4a" format did not allow it.

Ok! I will do a little edit in it just for you, intime try to rip that scene with dvdshrink software, if you succeed remember that the file must be .vob or any file can contain the 6 mono Channels! (5.1) and keep me updated with your work! I’m trying to do all my best guys, but please i need your help too for this! 🙂 ciao!

Sorry yo have kept you waiting. I didn’t have Internet some days ago and then, I waited for the answer of jeanbaker.

So, ok, I did it.

The folder makes 2,5 Gigaoctets. So, how can I send it to you, jeanbaker?

These are the "deleted scenes", with the scene theodred talked about. Do you need the .vob of the whole movie too?

Well, dear jeanbaker, I’m all disposed and ready to do my best to help you in your noble quest for a complete score of the movie! We owe you that, dude!

Sorry yo have kept you waiting. I didn’t have Internet some days ago and then, I waited for the answer of jeanbaker.

So, ok, I did it.

The folder makes 2,5 Gigaoctets. So, how can I send it to you, jeanbaker?

These are the "deleted scenes", with the scene theodred talked about. Do you need the .vob of the whole movie too?

Well, dear jeanbaker, I’m all disposed and ready to do my best to help you in your noble quest for a complete score of the movie! We owe you that, dude!

Hello my friend! 🙂 so i edited the departure track i do my best but i can’t delete the full drum of that part, but i hope you like it, i edited the intro to made it much similar to the movie version, here’s the link:
https://hotfile.com/dl/153221459/a34786f/Departure_edit.m4a.html

thank you for keep working for the rip! so i don’t need the full movie! i need only the chapter of the deleted scene with the music of ”first eye contact” yes the .VOB file, when you extract that chapter you can upload it in the same hosting service i used for my tracks! ”Hotfile” or any other you like, 🙂

About the deleted scenes, I got a problem. I created an account on Hotfile and tried to upload the .vob, but they tell me the file is too heavy. I don’t understand. The max weight is 2000ko, ans my file is "only" 0,99Go. So, it should work. But it does not…

Please let us know if you work on any other tracks from Titanic. Once again, great job! 🙂

About the deleted scenes, I got a problem. I created an account on Hotfile and tried to upload the .vob, but they tell me the file is too heavy. I don’t understand. The max weight is 2000ko, ans my file is "only" 0,99Go. So, it should work. But it does not…

sorry too late but i was busy! so i really don’t know why for that! you can try with another file sharing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU9jtIYTQIw

I don’t know where we can find the piece of music you look for but, to be honest, I did not really notice what it is about (I really don’t have the musical ear ><), if you had not asked, I would have not notices ; nevertheless, I think that we miss a piece of track when Jack holds the little boy and looks for an exit and then arrives the stranger man ; here, I compared with the movie, and we lack around 20 seconds of music. Don’t know if we can find it. But, except this, it’s really good! Thank you so much.

Me, I made something that is not so good or usefull, but if some people are interested in the musics by I Salonisti that have been released in the "Anniversary Edition", I made a tracklist of their musics in the order in which they appear in the film and at what moment precisely. There are some songs that I did not manage to recognize because of the voice, SFX and other noise. So, I someone recognizes these mysterious tracks or finds a track that I forgot or did not mention at all, tell us and we’ll have a complete tracklist!

PART I
– 01 – Marquerite Waltz (Rose’s Room & Picasso Painting)
– 02 – Wedding Dance (Cherbourg)
– 03 – Wedding Dance (Before Suicide Attempt)
– 04 – Marquerite Waltz (Rose’s Room Melancholia)
– 05 – Poet and Peasant (First Class Saloon ; Ismay & Smith)
– 06 – Oh you, beautiful Doll (Molly’s Room ; Sunset Ship Transition) [Thank you, jeanbaker]
– 07 – Blue Danube (Staircase I)
– 08 – Song Whthout Words (Staircase II)
– 09 – Estudiantina (First Class Dinner I)
– 10 – ? (First Class Diner II)
– 11 – Vales September (First Class Dinner III)
– 12 – Marquerite Waltz (Meeting with Jack at the clock)
– 13 – ? (Rose is thinking about Jack’s speech and observes a first class little girl with her mum)
– 14 – ? (Cal asks to Lovejoy where Rose is & orders him to find her)
– 15 – ? (Rose’s Room I, After the Portrait)
– 16 – Titsy Bitsy Girl (Rose’s Room II, After the Portrait, juste before the Irish music)

PART II
– 01 – Alexander’s Ragtime Band (First Class dinner room)
– 02 – Wedding Dance (First music plaid by the musicians on the deck)
– 03 – Sphinx (Rose spits to the face of Cal) [Thank you lim2304]
– 04 – Barcaola (Second rocket lauched & Molly saying "it’s something we don’t see everyday") [Thank you lim2304]
– 05 – Marquerite Waltz (The end of the song only ; a musician is pushed by a passenger just before playing "Orpheus")
– 06 – Orpheus ("They did not listen to us before, in the saloon ; let’s play, my friends, it’ll keep us warm!… "Orpheus!" – Tommy, Brizio, Jack & Rose arrive on the deck)
– 07 – Estudiantina
– 08 – Vales September
– 09 – Blue Danube (The end of the song only : a woman asks to Smith for her baby)
– 10 – Nearer My God to Thee (Farewell of the musicians)

I don’t know where we can find the piece of music you look for but, to be honest, I did not really notice what it is about (I really don’t have the musical ear ><), if you had not asked, I would have not notices ; nevertheless, I think that we miss a piece of track when Jack holds the little boy and looks for an exit and then arrives the stranger man ; here, I compared with the movie, and we lack around 20 seconds of music. Don’t know if we can find it. But, except this, it’s really good! Thank you so much.

Me, I made somthing that is not so good or usefull, but if some people are interested in the musics by I Salonisti that have been released in the "Anniversary Edition", I made a tracklist of their musics in the order in which they appear in the film and at what moment precisely. There are just two songs that I did not manage to recognize because of the voice, SFX and other noise. So, I someone recognizes these mysterious tracks, tell us and we’ll have a complete tracklist!

PART I
– 01 – Marquerite Waltz (Rose’s Room & Picasso Painting)
– 02 – Wedding Dance (Cherbourg)
– 03 – Wedding Dance (Before Suicide Attempt)
– 04 – Marquerite Waltz (Rose’s Room Melancholia)
– 05 – Poet and Peasant (First Class Saloon ; Ismay & Smith)
– 06 – ? (Molly’s Room ; Sunset Ship Transition)
– 07 – Blue Danube (Staircase I)
– 08 – Song Whthout Words (Staircase II)
– 09 – Estudiantina (First Class Dinner I)
– 10 – Vales September (First Class Dinner II or III)
– 11 – ? (Rose’s Room I, After the Portrait)
– 12 – Titsy Bitsy Girl (Rose’s Room II, After the Portrait, juste before the Irish music)

PART II
– 01 – Alexander’s Ragtime Band (First Class dinner room)
– 02 – Wedding Dance (First music plaid by the musicians on the deck)
– 03 – Sphinx
– 04 – Barcaola
– 05 – Marquerite Waltz
– 06 – Orpheus (Tommy, Brizio, Jack & Rose arrive on the deck)
– 07 – Estudiantina
– 08 – Vales September
– 09 – Blue Danube (The end of the song only : a woman asks to Smith for her baby)
– 10 – Nearer My God to Thee

The two song you talking about are, "Oh you beautiful doll (titanic sunset)" and "come josephine in my flying machine" this songs are not in the soundtrack because the producer and the arranger was William Ross (the Composer) i contacted him with facebook, and he answer me time ago, he said that of course he is the producer of that songs, but he really dont have idea where could be are those! He said me that it take a while to find the songs and i have to be patient! But this is of last summer, and i write him many times again for this, but he dont answer me again, i think i bored him! So the only way is to you, to contact him in facebook, and ask him this musics, first time he was very gentle with me, but i lost him now! This is his facebook where you can add himand contact him:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=841889043&ref=ts

I hope you have succes in this! Ciao (:

I don’t know where we can find the piece of music you look for but, to be honest, I did not really notice what it is about (I really don’t have the musical ear ><), if you had not asked, I would have not notices ; nevertheless, I think that we miss a piece of track when Jack holds the little boy and looks for an exit and then arrives the stranger man ; here, I compared with the movie, and we lack around 20 seconds of music. Don’t know if we can find it. But, except this, it’s really good! Thank you so much.

Me, I made somthing that is not so good or usefull, but if some people are interested in the musics by I Salonisti that have been released in the "Anniversary Edition", I made a tracklist of their musics in the order in which they appear in the film and at what moment precisely. There are just two songs that I did not manage to recognize because of the voice, SFX and other noise. So, I someone recognizes these mysterious tracks, tell us and we’ll have a complete tracklist!

PART I
– 01 – Marquerite Waltz (Rose???s Room & Picasso Painting)
– 02 – Wedding Dance (Cherbourg)
– 03 – Wedding Dance (Before Suicide Attempt)
– 04 – Marquerite Waltz (Rose???s Room Melancholia)
– 05 – Poet and Peasant (First Class Saloon ; Ismay & Smith)
– 06 – Oh you, beautiful Doll (Molly???s Room ; Sunset Ship Transition)
– 07 – Blue Danube (Staircase I)
– 08 – Song Whthout Words (Staircase II)
– 09 – Estudiantina (First Class Dinner I)
– 10 – Vales September (First Class Dinner II or III)
– 11 – ? (Rose???s Room I, After the Portrait)
– 12 – Titsy Bitsy Girl (Rose???s Room II, After the Portrait, juste before the Irish music)

PART II
– 01 – Alexander’s Ragtime Band (First Class dinner room)
– 02 – Wedding Dance (First music plaid by the musicians on the deck)
– 03 – Sphinx
– 04 – Barcaola
– 05 – Marquerite Waltz
– 06 – Orpheus (Tommy, Brizio, Jack & Rose arrive on the deck)
– 07 – Estudiantina
– 08 – Vales September
– 09 – Blue Danube (The end of the song only : a woman asks to Smith for her baby)
– 10 – Nearer My God to Thee

Sphinx plays when Rose spits at Cal and Barcarolle plays when we see the big shot of Titanic sinking and then Molly tells Ruth that is nomething they don’t see everyday. It continues faintly in the following scenes, showing the panic around the boats.

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According to Amazon , Titanic Blu Ray is expected to be released on September 14. This means we could have the chance to get an instrumental channel without sfx.

jeanbaker, I don’t have Facebook, so I can’t contact the guy you’re talking about. Besides, I found this on YouTube : THE TITANIC BAND Oh, You Beautiful Doll – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86HYa762xAo)
Not the official, but better than nothing. It sounds pretty much like in the film!

theodred27, yeah, I totally agree with you about the Blu-Ray version that will enable to get, maybe, a good soundtrack rip of the film. What do you think about this, jeanbaker? Do you think that will be possible to take the music at the source, with a work on the Blu-Ray thanks to the instrumental channel? If it works, we would be sure to have exactly all the music as we hear it in the movie without having to do edits?

theodred27, you can find the "Anniversary Eidtion" with any simple and classic search on the net. Like on this site : Telecharger OST – Titanic [Collector’s Anniversary Edition] [2012] autre (http://www.ergor.org/V2/telecharger/dossier_252892_ost+-+titanic+collectors+anniversary+edition+2012.html)

But there are many others.

As we know it, the "Titanic OST" is just "suites" and "alternate" tracks Horner composed but which don’t appear like this in the movie. Sometimes, it’s quite the same ("Unable to stay, unwilling to leave" is like in the movie, as far as I know), but "Southampton" is not the film version at all and that is worse for "The Departure". And I don’t mention all the tracks that miss!

"Back to Titanic" was supposed to "add" some missing music, but it’s complete bullshit, except the excellent track "A Building Panic" which gives us some more materials about the Sinking music, but, obviously, as a long suite with some pieces of music not in the good order and re-arranged. The rest of the album are just "covers", remix, re-orchestration of themes we already have. It sucks. What a waste of space on a disk.

"I Salonisti" is not the priority, but, of course, if we look for a complete, they are important. You can find almost all what we hear from them in the movie except "Oh, you beautiful doll" and maybe another track.

And, the fourth CD is just the more provocative joke music industry never did to the audience. A disk which could have included additionnal music is just "Musics from the Titanic era". As if you wanted the "Saving Private Ryan" OST and could only find "Music from the WWII era"!

Well, that’s surely why you don’t have the impression to hear the movie music! Sorry, dude… I hope gifted fans like our dear jeanbaker will be able to do something for this, beause we can’t count on Sony.

Nearer my good to thee (british version) played in the scene of the crab inside the wreck of titanic!

Ave maria (shubert) not played i think

Ave maria (second not played i think

Barber of siville not played i think!

Nocturne. I dont remember if was played

Fruhlingslied (not played i think)

Aus tannhauser (not played i think)

Miss hook of holland ( i dont remember)

Meditation (played when cal ask to low. J. If he find rose and tells him to find her ! before iceberg and car scene! )

I have all this recording with the other released in the new soundtrack played by i salonisti! I can upload it the full recording session!

For the blu-ray version! I really dont know if they have made a remastered audio for The new amplifiers! If there’s 7.1 channels minim. We can do that! If we will have only 5.1 we cant do that! So lets hope they do a remastering of the sound!
Ciao! (:

🙂

We meet last week and we have talked about this, he said that have to contact another sony music office for open this document in private, but he said to me that this is very difficult and maybe i have to wait a while! And that i cant share it with anyone, but i’m bad boy! XD i will share everithing for titanic fans! Cus i think this should be free for all titanic fans in all world! Anyway i will see him next month for other things about tv shows etc. So i will ask him for this too, and see how is going! Ciao (:

I’m not so sure you should be posting that, what if this guys reads this post?

we might not ever get them.

Speaking of I Salonisti, I watched the movie again in the theater, and with a really good sound, I could notice how much their musics were very present. Really, I think there is almost as much I Salonisti than James Horner in this movie, the only and huge difference is that the I Salonisti musics are very discrete and just here to give a distant atmosphere.

So, I noticed new tracks from them, but, could not recognize the songs precisely yet ; maybe there are other tracks that I did not notice. So, here is the new tracklist :

PART I
– 01 – Marquerite Waltz (Rose’s Room & Picasso Painting)
– 02 – Wedding Dance (Cherbourg)
– 03 – Wedding Dance (Before Suicide Attempt)
– 04 – Marquerite Waltz (Rose’s Room Melancholia)
– 05 – Poet and Peasant (First Class Saloon ; Ismay & Smith)
– 06 – Oh you, beautiful Doll (Molly’s Room ; Sunset Ship Transition) [Thank you, jeanbaker]
– 07 – Blue Danube (Staircase I)
– 08 – Song Whthout Words (Staircase II)
– 09 – Estudiantina (First Class Dinner I)
– 10 – ? (First Class Diner II)
– 11 – Vales September (First Class Dinner III)
– 12 – Marquerite Waltz (Meeting with Jack at the clock)
– 13 – ? (Rose is thinking about Jack’s speech and observes a first class little girl with her mum)
– 14 – ? (Cal asks to Lovejoy where Rose is & orders him to find her)
– 15 – ? (Rose’s Room I, After the Portrait)
– 16 – Titsy Bitsy Girl (Rose’s Room II, After the Portrait, juste before the Irish music)

PART II
– 01 – Alexander’s Ragtime Band (First Class dinner room)
– 02 – Wedding Dance (First music plaid by the musicians on the deck)
– 03 – Sphinx (Rose spits to the face of Cal) [Thank you lim2304]
– 04 – Barcaola (Second rocket launched & Molly saying "it’s something we don’t see everyday") [Thank you lim2304]
– 05 – Marquerite Waltz (The end of the song only ; a musician is pushed by a passenger just before playing "Orpheus")
– 06 – Orpheus ("They did not listen to us before, in the saloon ; let’s play, my friends, it’ll keep us warm!… "Orpheus!" – Tommy, Brizio, Jack & Rose arrive on the deck)
– 07 – Estudiantina
– 08 – Vales September
– 09 – Blue Danube (The end of the song only : a woman asks to Smith for her baby)
– 10 – Nearer My God to Thee (Farewell of the musicians)

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About the Sony guy and the top secret complete score… I really don’t know what to say.
On the one hand, I totally agree with jeanbaker, and if was him, I’do exactly the same, I would like to share this with all the fans, because they deserve it, and we are all passionate! And, moreover, Sony had it coming ; if only they had released a real good score, we would have bought it and we would not even be here talking about it now!

On the other hand, that’s very delicate, because, indeed, a guy may take some risks for this and, to protect himself, he asks to keep it secret. He would be such a hero to share this with jeanbaker, it would be sad to betray him ; maybe this could cost him his job or he could have troubles. In the same time, I wonder if Sony could really know exactly who betrayed them if the score was on the Internet. Could be anyone, and I’m surprised it’s not done yet. But, it’s jeanbaker who could have troubles if the guy discovers that he gave us the complete score…

So, I figured out some ideas :
1) Like theodred27 suggested, we host the file with a fake name and only those who are in the secret could know what it is about. But, of course, some people will speak too much and will re-name the file and share it everywhere one day…
2) Only MP sharing. We have to contact jeanbaker and this will be the only way. It means that it will work only for members of this Forum. But, it’s always the same ; some people who just read the thread silently could register just for this link and then, share the file everywhere, without hiding what it is. Keep a secret on the Internet seems impossible to me!
3) Limited in time downloading. We put the link here, during… 15 days. And, then, it will disappear. It may be enought to avoid a flood of the file on other sites.

Really, it would be very delicate. But, it’s not done yet, and maybe the guy will never give him the score!

This is Vision of Salome =)

Also in terms of protecting themselves from the money grabbing monsters at Sony, uploading the file using a free VPN will hide the originating IP address and make tracing the original upload very difficult.

All it takes is one upload and the fans will do the rest, it would be all over the net in a matter of days or even hours code named or not and there would be very little that Sony could do about it.

William

MONEY.

As in that which Sony does not want to spend.

William

It sounds like they are holding out for something, but that ship (pardon the pun) has sailed with that re-release.

William

There must be some kind of commercial struggle between Sony and Horner that has stopped any possibility to get even a little expanded score.
Sony has a very firm grip on this soundtrack , even LaLaLand Records told me they had asked once but they were unable to get it.

It sounds like they are holding out for something, but that ship (pardon the pun) has sailed with that re-release.

I completely share your interrogation and your reasonning.

As far as I know, Titanic is the only score to be treated like this. Why this one specially? No commercial release because it would not be lucrative enough ; but the most severe preservation we ever saw with a score. They really have to make up their mind ; I’m ok to pay if they officially release the score ; but if they don’t and never will, why preserve it as if it was a proof of the extra-terrestrial life in the Zone 51?

What you explained, William is very interesting, but it lets me perplexed. I don’t understand Sony. Money obsession and scorn towards the fans must me their rules.

William

I do not agree with you, I’m sorry, I have a friend that works for skywalkersound He said about a huge archive of recordings of huge silver discs, i imagine are the original recordings, in alphabetical order on the letter t has 15 disks titanic! I guess they are all versions of all instruments and individual tracks are not used, the problem is not to share them, but do a audio conversion of them as compact disk, and this is difficult if you dont have the permit for do this, but they said to me its possible, about sony, well this guy knows everyone, now i’m in business with another guy that is a producer of paramount pictures, so i think i will do everithing i can for get this tracks, about you said of james horner, well this is impossible, horner dont have any recordings because he only had the rights of performing and composing, even if he would give us that recordings he cant, because he’s not the property owner of that! We have to see the producer and distribution rights, so many people worked for that, and get all that is difficult, but its POSSIBLE! We only have to play right!

William

This kind contradicts what you said a year ago.

Yes, DS, the recording sessions are real! There are about 9 discs of session music, alt takes and unused cues. AND, I found out recently that several copies are "Floating" around, in many unscruptious hands, so the time grows near!

I tried this before in 2009, and I’ll post the link so maybe the petition can start again.

Release the full score from "Titanic" – Petition Spot (http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/titanicscore)

(Only 73 people have signed it … tell your friends!)

I’ve also managed to re-do what I did earlier, where I was able to cut out dialogue that sounds better than ripping it from DVD sound (I think the links to the music I posted are in the previous thread, but I’m unwilling at the moment to go search for it, haha), so I’m actually working on re-doing some previous recordings, albeit one with sound effects and such, but I’ll try to reduce it as much as possible. (I’ll at least try to get some music that most people don’t think of.) The obnoxious thing with the Titanic 5.1 mix is that Sissel’s vocals are all located in the center track, which is the same as the dialogue … without the center track, the theme is still evident, but it’s very echo-y.

http://www.facebook.com/Titanic1997CompleteScore

Doubt it’ll do much difference, but we can definitely increase visibility.

Well, remember what happened wit the TPM ultimate edition?

bad press could = no release at all.

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Good call:

http://www.facebook.com/Titanic1997CompleteScore

Doubt it’ll do much difference, but we can definitely increase visibility.

shouldnt it link to some sort of petition?

Get our numbers up, then petition directly to Sony, but keep it polite. We’ve supported the film and the music for 15 years, now’s not the time to turn against it. (After all, our first exposure to the score was probably the initial album itself, haha.)

Well, that was correct! I was told by a fellow "in the biz" that EVERYBODY had a copy of the Titanic recording sessions, which puzzled me. So, I started checking with some reliable sources, and found out that this person was talking straight through his hat, no such situation exsists. That is when I found out about the "lockdown" on just THIS soundtrack/recording sessions.

Lucasfilm may have a copy of the recording sessions, since Horner has done much recording at their facility.

William

Just hoping that jeanbaker here would be kind enough to make a REAL edit of "The Portrait"

This is indeed a closer rendition of the films version of "The Portrait" than what appears on Back To Titanic. This version comes from the 1998 album Titanic – The Ultimate Collection.

Are there any sound effects/dialogue in that section of the DVD (The Portrait)? (Talking about the rear channels.) Just wondering if a DVD rip is possible of that cue.

Are there any sound effects/dialogue in that section of the DVD (The Portrait)? (Talking about the rear channels.) Just wondering if a DVD rip is possible of that cue.

I don’t know , I remember that there were few lines between jack and rose , I think jean backer is the most qualify on the technical aspects

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This is indeed a closer rendition of the films version of "The Portrait" than what appears on Back To Titanic. This version comes from the 1998 album Titanic – The Ultimate Collection.
Thanks :). I’ve heard of it but never looked into it until now, so that is nice to know.

There is also a beautiful piece of music heard during the statue of liberte scene. I’ve never been able to find a "legit" fan edit of it.

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Thanks :). I’ve heard of it but never looked into it until now, so that is nice to know.

There is also a beautiful piece of music heard during the statue of liberte scene. I’ve never been able to find a "legit" fan edit of it.

Yeah I’d love that piece too and the films version of "Rose". I always hated the way the album version kicked straight in with the penny whistle unlike the film. Sissel’s vocals are altered too, I’m sure.

My post showed up twice so I edited the second one to remove it, and instead my ORIGINAL LONG POST is gone?

Fucking hell.

What I was going to say was (in much shorter form now that it’s all gone) :

Yeah I’d love that piece too and the films version of "Rose". I always hated the way the album version kicked straight in with the penny whistle unlike the film. Sissel’s vocals are altered too, I’m sure.

The film version edited out the opening whistle, and also replaced the synth choir with piano (rather it was dropped from the mix). That’s why the harp is easier to hear in the film than on the album, and they tweaked the mix in the film to make Sissel’s vocals softer in the second half.

I don’t know , I remember that there were few lines between jack and rose , I think jean backer is the most qualify on the technical aspects

Hardly the only one "qualified", so I’ll answer that question and provide a sample as I’ve deconstructed the film’s mix many times:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/v39ffl

This is a direct rip of the front stereo channels of music for the "sketch", performed by Horner himself.

There is NO music in the rear channels during this scene and also none in the center channel with the small amount of dialogue.

This music was never meant to be in the film anyway, so it wasn’t recorded with an elaborate 5.1 mix or anything of the sort. Cameron stuck it in the film but it was basically a demo Horner recorded himself for a different scene and titled it piano ‘sketch’, which Cameron mistakenly thought was for this scene.

Notice the "Back To Titanic" version Horner performed was different? That’s because Horner objected to Cameron’s insistence on using his rough performance in the film because he felt his playing wasn’t very good. He offered to have a professional pianist record it instead but Cameron rightfully made the call that Horner’s rough sketch of music – imperfections and all – were perfect for Jack’s rough sketch of Rose. Also it was more personal that Horner’s own performance was right there over such an intimate scene.

There is an ambient ‘hiss’ sound in this clip of music, which you hear throughout any scene inside the ship before it hit the iceberg. Most indoor scenes have this sound in addition to ticking clocks, faint music from Titanic’s band in the distance and occasionally a low rumble probably from the ship’s engines.

I’ve only boosted the overall volume on that clip. I’ve not done any filtering to it.

What do you mean?

The music is not going to be changed for a 7.1 mix, especially this cue which was recorded and presented in the film as simple left-right stereo.

The only thing a 7.1 mix will add are more directional sound effects, and with this film chances are it will be the same 6.1 mix the DVD had, only lossless.

By the way, I know I shouldn’t get my hopes up, but it would still be awesome if they released the Blu Ray with an isolated score, just like with the Alien(s) Blu Rays. Granted, there were other directors and composers involved, but it was Cameron, Horner and Fox, just like Titanic, soo….. I know, I know, probably wishful thinking. Very wishful thinking.

By the way, I know I shouldn’t get my hopes up, but it would still be awesome if they released the Blu Ray with an isolated score, just like with the Alien(s) Blu Rays. Granted, there were other directors and composers involved, but it was Cameron, Horner and Fox, just like Titanic, soo….. I know, I know, probably wishful thinking. Very wishful thinking.

I’ve been quietly hoping for the same. Like you I know not to keep my hopes up especially as Sony would have to be involved in some capacity. They have a habit of letting us down but maybe this will make up for the lousy soundtrack re release.

By the way, I know I shouldn’t get my hopes up, but it would still be awesome if they released the Blu Ray with an isolated score, just like with the Alien(s) Blu Rays. Granted, there were other directors and composers involved, but it was Cameron, Horner and Fox, just like Titanic, soo….. I know, I know, probably wishful thinking. Very wishful thinking.

The Blu-ray will likely be the same 6.1 mix as the DVD.

There’s no way the score gets an isolated presentation, because Sony still has a hand in even that. The reason a lot of scores don’t appear on DVD / Blu-ray in isolated form is because the soundtrack labels fear they will lose money if the score is included this way. I know that because the producer of many great DVD special editions (Van Ling, who did the Star Wars DVDs, Terminator 2, The Abyss, Titanic) once mentioned a few years ago that they wanted to do an isolated score on the "Independence Day" DVD (probably the laserdisc before it) but the soundtrack label (RCA Victor) didn’t want to lose out on their album sales of the soundtrack.

This also explains why some movies released with isolated scores appear only in certain regions (Glory and Bicentennial Man, both Horner scores appear only on UK edition DVDs) or they are released on early editions but dropped on later ones or their Blu-ray counterparts (Jumanji and Legends Of The Fall, also Horner scores)

Interestingly enough the label that released all those scores as albums?

With the exception of Glory, it’s Sony (through Sony Classical and Epic Soundtrax)

Titanic has not even been announced officially yet. The September 14th US release Amazon put up is all we know so far. Specs like audio, aspect ratio (such as will it be modified for 3D like the IMAX version) have not been confirmed at all yet.

Did Sony have anything to do with the iso scores on the Alien Blu Rays?

Intrada released Alien, Varese released Aliens, MCA (Universal) released Alien 3 and RCA / La-La Land released Alien Resurrection.

Intrada released Alien, Varese released Aliens, MCA (Universal) released Alien 3 and RCA / La-La Land released Alien Resurrection.

Well in the case of alien movies we don’t need anything else , most of the complete soundtracks were released in one way or another.

Intrada released Alien, Varese released Aliens, MCA (Universal) released Alien 3 and RCA / La-La Land released Alien Resurrection.

Details for the Czech release have been released. Audio details at least, DTS HD Master Audio 7.1.

I can’t imagine the US or Europe/UK ending up with much different, which is why I said pretty much confirmed.

Titanic 3D+2D VRON SPECILN LIMITOVAN SBRATELSK EDICE (Blu-Ray) (http://www.filmarena.cz/blu-ray-titanic-3d-2d-fifteenth-anniversary-special-collectors-edition)

If anyone wants to try to filter out some of the "hiss" ambience, there it is ready for editing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7XuCOzRxU

ciaoo! (;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7XuCOzRxU

ciaoo! (;

I think it sounds better , which unreleased music will you do next?

I would have so much to say and answer, but I don’t have lot of time unfortunately (so much work!).

So, I just wanted to tell you that I tried to make an edit of "Departure", based upon a previous edit by jeanbaker. All what I did is to make the intro shorter and modify the chorus (chorus from "Departure"). I’m pretty sure that the real track is more high-pitched in the movie, but all my attempts on Audacity really sucked. I’m not very good with that. The transitions are very rude and bad. Sorry for this (but, maybe it’s like this in the movie as well…).

Here is the edit :
https://hotfile.com/dl/155152867/fbe256a/03_Departure_(My_Edit).mp3.html

See ya!

I would have so much to say and answer, but I don’t have lot of time unfortunately (so much work!).

So, I just wanted to tell you that I tried to make an edit of "Departure", based upon a previous edit by jeanbaker. All what I did is to make the intro shorter and modify the chorus (chorus from "Departure"). I’m pretty sure that the real track is more high-pitched in the movie, but all my attempts on Audacity really sucked. I’m not very good with that. The transitions are very rude and bad. Sorry for this (but, maybe it’s like this in the movie as well…).

Here is the edit :
https://hotfile.com/dl/155152867/fbe256a/03_Departure_(My_Edit).mp3.html

See ya!

Nice edit! my compliments! don’t worry about the transition! is very difficult to mix them much softly possible! so i think you do a good job! anyway i don’t know if you read my previous message! i changed the leaving port choir! and i re-edit the departure track- the difference of the pith in the movie is because all movies are speeded of the 4% more! if you try to get for example the rose theme track and you speed it of 4% more! you’ll hear the same track of the movie version, this is because the 24fps of theater version converted for the blockbuster pal version of 25fps. anyway i made the same track of departure with the same velocity of the movie, then you can hear the difference! 🙂 i think the choir of leaving port are the much similar of the movie! or the same but edited.

normal (leaving port choir edited) version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7XuCOzRxU

movie match pitched version: https://hotfile.com/dl/155158813/a76db66/Departure_Movie_Version.mp3.html

hope you like! 🙂 byee

TITANIC Score: Departure (Unreleased) – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7XuCOzRxU)

ciaoo! (;

Fantastic job. 🙂

It’s so great to listen to this! And that’s thank’s to you! I hope the Blu-Ray will help us to create the whole complete SFX free score!

Thanks for the link to the TITANTIC recording sessions. I really appreciate it. I’ve been looking for this over a month now. Funny how patiance pays and knowing someone who will help out!

Many Thanks

Thanks for the link to the TITANTIC recording sessions. I would really appreciate it.

Thanks
Spec

Uhm, he has said before that he cannot.

Must be a belated April Fools joke because there’s little point in lying about something like this.

It’s so great to listen to this! And that’s thank’s to you! I hope the Blu-Ray will help us to create the whole complete SFX free score!

But thank you for you like my job! I really appreciate this! (: for the editing i use logic pro, and for the transitions i use garageband! (: you must try this software if you like to make music! You can recreate many sound of orchestra and many instruments! (; but i dont know if you have a mac cus this software runs only on this OS! i will do something for the other tracks soon, for the first eye contact, well i will do it when i’ll get the deleted scene from the dvd! Now i dont understand the new post i read before! I dont speak very well english so i cant understand if in that message was some irony or else! But someone has posted the recording session??

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Hey, here’s hoping! Every little bit helps.

By the way, I know I shouldn’t get my hopes up, but it would still be awesome if they released the Blu Ray with an isolated score, just like with the Alien(s) Blu Rays. Granted, there were other directors and composers involved, but it was Cameron, Horner and Fox, just like Titanic, soo….. I know, I know, probably wishful thinking. Very wishful thinking.

If they do that, we always have to get the isolated channels of the music and remaster it, because for the movie reason they doa realtime mixing of the pan volume level! We have to adjust that, and we have to do a retiming for the 4% of the speed to do a good job! (:

Why yes! Another forum member, williamtaylor1969 has DAT reel to reel tapes of the complete sessions. He works for a major Hollywood studio and is good friends with Mr. Horner.

Up till now he has been unable to share them because of his relationship with the studio. But according to another forum poster, inspector gadget, he is sharing them privately. Send him a PM.

I have asked him for a copy as well. If I get it first, I will be happy to share it with you. Just don’t tell anyone. We don’t want William to get in trouble with the studio for leaking them.

Please ignore gwent, he literally hates William Taylor and he’s just being sarcastic.

As to whether or not WT has the recording sessions on DAT – who knows? Even if he does, he’s said that (for whatever reason) he can’t share them. I honestly don’t know if he has them or not.

Please ignore gwent, he literally hates William Taylor and he’s just being sarcastic.

As to whether or not WT has the recording sessions on DAT – who knows? Even if he does, he’s said that (for whatever reason) he can’t share them. I honestly don’t know if he has them or not.

Well, my hopes have just been shot down… :/

And yes, I agree, he has shared some very nice gems, and I appreciate his contributions.

Not to mention the obvious but blackmailing someone just to get music is pretty much the dictionary definition of "PATHETIC" anyway.

You have to be pretty sick in the head to do something like that, and personally there is no excuse big enough to justify behavior like that. I should know, because I’ve gone through the ringer emotionally and physically over the past few months and it isn’t nearly over, and it doesn’t give me any kind of excuse to behave outside the norm to people face to face or online. It’s simple right and wrong. That’s as plain as it gets. All I mean by that is no excuse will hold water with someone like me, let alone anyone else here with any sort of right mind.

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Also, just found out that (got to love the timing) Horner’s new score for "The Amazing Spider-Man" is going to be released by….

Sony Classical.

The same label responsible for Titanic, and several other Horner score albums. The last Sony Classical Horner release was The Legend of Zorro in 2005.

I don’t think you understand how this all works.

^^^^^

THIS

I have to agree with Dimensioer on this one. Even if William has it, his ties to the industry forbid him to upload. because they just KNOW the leak would come from him and it would cause a shitstorm of epic proportion for the guy. If he feels it’s better for him not to post it, then that’s his right. Don’t think for a single second labels like sony don’t have people able to track you if you leak something the size (pardon the pun) of the Titanic score. they have the people to do it, or in the extreme can hire people to find you. they’ll find you, and sue your ass before you have the time to say "I’m the king of the world".

You want an advice ? brace yourselves with a lot of patience. Some scores NEVER see the light of day in their film version, even less as a complete score or a complete session set. I could give you a lot of examples, but one big should be enough. Blade Runner. The score is a masterpiece. Yet the "Score" album has significant differences with the film versions, no complete score or recording sessions are available. yet we have close to, oh, 50 different versions of the score, because of fans. only problem, it took 30 years to get the best one, the EMS recombination set. In other words, it may be released one day; or it may not. Unless there are devoted fans willing to recreate the music using synthetizers, or DVDripping sees the arrival of new tool able to sweep off SFX and dialogs, you’ll just have to wait.

There are people on here who can do both of those things, and I think one of them may even be contributing to this thread (I’m not really a hardcore Titanic fan so I really have no idea what’s available and what’s being custom-made). But if you ask them to do anything other than what they came here to show off, they’ll go mum on the subject and ignore any and all requests.

What astounds me is that there are already 12 pages of thread material of people saying, "I want the complete score to Titanic and people are being unfair. Waahhh!!" and that’s already on top of a 16-page thread that followed much the same pattern. From the standpoint of a not-hardcore Titanic fan, I’ll be honest: I just don’t get the point of this. I mean, is it like a request thread? How come it’s not in the requests section?

It would be kind of like me starting a thread up here in the General Discussion entitled "Pirates of the Caribbean Trilogy Complete Score/Recording Sessions Discussion". And all however many pages of it are just going to be people coming here and saying they want it. Occasionally, there’s some trolls, and maybe once in a while someone might post something that they made, but other than that, what are the other 11 pages of this thread about?

Also, I was going to add on some more stuff from my previous post, but I think docrate1 pretty much said everything–I’d only be redundant and unnecessary.

If you don’t like the thread, then why are you here. It is not in the download section, just take it off of your suscribed to list and ignore it. Why come in here and piss all over folks who are doing you no harm at all. They were told to start a thread here if they wanted to talk, and they did. So they like the Horner score to Titanic and are passionate. So what, you are the same with pirates and Transformers. Do I tell you it is stupid? No. Although I dislike a lot of what you like. (Inception leaps immediately to mind, causing an urge to vommit and run). So, back off. Start your thread.

Although, TECHNICALLY, they are not supposed to be posting dl links here, but hey, I brought that up before, and admin let it stand. I have my own discussion thread for film here too. That is where all the talk and chit chat in the dl section was SUPPOSED to go. I created it at admin’s request, just for that purpose. There are not supposed to be long pages of discussion there.

You should try to know what you are talking about before bitching to people who are doing exactly what the mods told them to do.

I personally don’t get all the Inception love either. Endless edits and rips of that score. You pretty much summed up my take on it. I enjoy the film but the music….well to each their own. When it comes to Christopher Nolan and Hans Zimmer, I prefer to stick solely with Batman.

I’ve never seen (and have no intention of seeing) either the Pirates of the Caribbean or Transformers movies and have even less of a desire to hear their scores by the Media Ventures / Remote Control crews but more power to their fans who love them. Again it’s a to each their own thing.

You are indeed correct – endless threads about those scores and fan edits and arguments and no one says a thing. Any other composers that don’t run with the MV / RC crowd and it’s all "what’s the big deal anyway?"

Actually, taking a listen to GauthierG’s edit of Transformers 3 begs to argue that point. I’ve also heard talk that people have discovered a way to honest-to-God remove SFX from Blu-Ray audio, but that’s all beside anything that is relevant here.

If you don’t like the thread, then why are you here. It is not in the download section, just take it off of your suscribed to list and ignore it. Why come in here and piss all over folks who are doing you no harm at all. They were told to start a thread here if they wanted to talk, and they did. So they like the Horner score to Titanic and are passionate.

What are you going off on me for?! I was just curious. Is it so wrong to be curious? I was just amazed that there are 12 pages of material here and I will admit: I did not read all 12 of them so maybe I’m wrong about the assumptions I made. This thread is not in my subscriptions; I stopped viewing the forum through my subscriptions when I got tired of the fact that no one was talking in any of my threads. I think coming out and exploring the forum has helped me find and learn a lot of things I would have never discovered otherwise. So I deeply apologize that my curiosity got the best of me and I just had to ask one, apparently highly offensive, question.

So what, you are the same with pirates and Transformers. Do I tell you it is stupid? No. Although I dislike a lot of what you like. (Inception leaps immediately to mind, causing an urge to vommit and run). So, back off. Start your thread.

When or where did you get the notion that I thought this thread was stupid? I absolutely and totally accept the fact that there are very passionate Titanic fans out there and I respect that 100%. And I respect that you don’t like some of the music that I am very passionate about. What would I go start my own thread over?

You should try to know what you are talking about before bitching to people who are doing exactly what the mods told them to do.

And I don’t even know what this is supposed to mean. I now see the word "Discussion" in the thread title, so I understand that the requests section would have been an inappropriate place but where was I BITCHING? I was simply being curious. Apparently, I am the cat here and I was just killed. Now look at this mess. Apparently every goddamn time I go somewhere that I’m clearly not supposed to be, I get beaten to a pulp–but how was I supposed to know I wasn’t welcome there?

Alternatively, it sounds like perhaps you should have taken this to the Butthurt thread. I did not mean to cause such an overreaction and am deeply sorry (and I know that could be misinterpreted as sarcasm, but I don’t intend it to be).

I agree with you , Horner is self recycling , He uses sometimes the very same notes and it is really frustrating, though he has made some good score like braveheart titanic alien etc but most of the time he just remix his own stuff.

Don’t listen.

Don’t waste your time.

Also, that ‘Butterfly’ music is not the same as in ‘The New World’. Same piano technique, not the same notes. Not even the same key.

Don’t listen.

Don’t waste your time.

Also, that ‘Butterfly’ music is not the same as in ‘The New World’. Same piano technique, not the same notes. Not even the same key.

Why it does not suprise me? I was sure that someone would reply something like this. I like his stuff , I didnt say I disliked it ; I do listen because there could be new interesting themes , otherwise I wouldnt have listen avatar.
I don’t waste my time either it is on listening his music or replying in the forum , so yOU don’t waste your time by telling to not waste mine.

Yes, I agree with you, Theodred. Personnally, without wanting to be rude, I don’t come on this thread to have discussions about "Is it possible to have the official complete or not", or "Is Titanic really a good score compared to…", or else. I already had these discussions before, and it does not move things along. What interests me is the work of JeanBaker, because, for the first time, thanks to him, we have very good material which is an excellent substitution to the official tracks we’re not sure to get one day.

So, Jean, we are looking forward listening your next edits!

So, Jean, we are looking forward listening your next edits!

The same here!

Why does it not surprise me that a) someone ALWAYS has to comment on Horner’s reuse of themes, when we all have had that discussion millions of times already, and b) this discussion always results in heated responses. Really?

Besides, this discussion thread is not about Horner or his style per se, it is specifiaclly about one score.

Details for the Czech release have been released. Audio details at least, DTS HD Master Audio 7.1.

I can’t imagine the US or Europe/UK ending up with much different, which is why I said pretty much confirmed.

Titanic 3D+2D VRON SPECILN LIMITOVAN SBRATELSK EDICE (Blu-Ray) (http://www.filmarena.cz/blu-ray-titanic-3d-2d-fifteenth-anniversary-special-collectors-edition)

Specs have been confirmed today, and it’s 5.1 DTS-HD.

Titanic 3D Blu-ray (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Titanic-3D-Blu-ray/7548/)

The 3D version is spread over two discs, while the 2D version is on one disc.

It would be nice if the 5.1 was atleast a remix, but of course thats wishful thinking.

It would be nice if the 5.1 was atleast a remix, but of course thats wishful thinking.

I never trust international specs, especially ones "pretty much confirmed" because the film wasn’t made there, it was made and engineered by Cameron and crew at Fox / Paramount, so what they put out is given to international distributors, and in some cases you’ll see cuts to the film made (like in the UK for content) or some Japanese DTS mix where Stateside you’ll get just Dolby Digital, but that’s just the end result delivery system. An entirely different mix of 7.1 for one or two international markets versus the original 5.1 everywhere else gets?

All I can say is remain skeptical at best.

When they go from "pretty much" to definitive, that’s when to start believing, and that won’t happen until the discs come out and people can buy them up and find out.

Well I dont know , may be they wanted something catchy to make the customer pay for the blu ray.
I dont think it is really ugly but I have the impression to see a Perfume gift box set for the valentine’s day.

That’s the international release by Fox.

The Paramount cover art has not been confirmed yet. A temp cover has been around for a while, and it’s the same poster used for the 3D release and the Anniversary Soundtrack (not the 4-disc). But Paramount hasn’t confirmed whether that will be the art or not.

The Paramount cover art has not been confirmed yet. A temp cover has been around for a while, and it’s the same poster used for the 3D release and the Anniversary Soundtrack (not the 4-disc). But Paramount hasn’t confirmed whether that will be the art or not.

It seems quite legit though but we ll see

Well , send an email to sony with this picture and ask " when?"

I must say, that is lovely.

If only…

I happened upon that a while ago. It’s very beautiful.

I listened to the track you posted ; they are great!

WWW415 Titanic Complete Score 44 To The Stars – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGUMBGUXAkc&feature=plcp)

I am sure Jean Baker could do something about this but he is unreachable.

Titanic – Finale.mp3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?31s1to871t82qmn)

I made this one, it’s the cue that plays at the end when older Rose throws the diamond off the salvage vessel, then (I believe) she dies peacefully as an old lady warm in her bed (as Jack said she would) and her spirit reunites with Jack’s on the ship and embrace each other amidst the souls who didn’t survive. It’s a beautiful cue that I have longed to have in my collection and I am very proud of the end result. There are some SFX in the background, but they can be easily overlooked; at least in my opinion. The speed and pitch of the cue is about 4% higher than in the actual soundtrack, but to be honest, I like it better that way. The bass is also boosted here, but I did that so that the SFX in the last part are less noticeable. I plan to make another version of this cue sometime in the future, so if anyone wants it at normal speed, pitch and bass level, I can make that as well. I share this cue with you all and any constructive criticism would be welcome and appreciated. ^-^

Titanic – Finale.mp3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?31s1to871t82qmn)

I made this one, it’s the cue that plays at the end when older Rose throws the diamond off the salvage vessel, then (I believe) she dies peacefully as an old lady
warm in her bed (as Jack said she would) and her spirit reunites with Jack’s on the ship and embrace each other amidst the souls who didn’t survive. It’s a beautiful cue that I have longed to have in my collection and I am very proud of the end result. There are some SFX in the background, but they can be easily overlooked; at least in my opinion. The speed and pitch of the cue is about 4% higher than in the actual soundtrack, but to be honest, I like it better that way. The bass is also boosted here, but I did that so that the SFX in the last part are less noticeable. I plan to make another version of this cue sometime in the future, so if anyone wants it at normal speed, pitch and bass level, I can make that as well. I share this cue with you all and any constructive criticism would be welcome and appreciated. ^-^

Hello Hakurei , thanks for the kind comment.
I listened your mp3 , I really like the first part until the moment when Rose’s theme starts. Did you extract this from the movie or did you edit this?
I prefer this version of Never an Absolution more emotional and it’s the version in the movie actually not the album edit with the bagpipes.
For the last part I would say that I don’t like it there is too much noises but don’t worry I don’t think we need to work with this anymore , Jean Baker made a good edit of this one.
I definitely take your mp3 but I will certainly edit it in order to keep the first part , I will add this to my own complete score.

I’m looking forward to hearing this.
I think I will start some audio editing too , the butterfly theme is one of my most wanted , I’d really like to have a clean opening title too.

Yes echo effects due to the submarine.
Jean baker recompose a very little part of the butterfly theme which is composed of 3 motifs that occur in the departure cue , the first eyes contact scene and the butterfly cue of course.

No I don’t think so , I think he would have given it to us.
There are also some cues we barely hear during the scene in which the submarine visits the wreckage.

Titanic – Finale.mp3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?31s1to871t82qmn)

I made this one, it’s the cue that plays at the end when older Rose throws the diamond off the salvage vessel, then (I believe) she dies peacefully as an old lady warm in her bed (as Jack said she would) and her spirit reunites with Jack’s on the ship and embrace each other amidst the souls who didn’t survive. It’s a beautiful cue that I have longed to have in my collection and I am very proud of the end result. There are some SFX in the background, but they can be easily overlooked; at least in my opinion. The speed and pitch of the cue is about 4% higher than in the actual soundtrack, but to be honest, I like it better that way. The bass is also boosted here, but I did that so that the SFX in the last part are less noticeable. I plan to make another version of this cue sometime in the future, so if anyone wants it at normal speed, pitch and bass level, I can make that as well. I share this cue with you all and any constructive criticism would be welcome and appreciated. ^-^

This is very good! The only issues I could hear were the things you mentioned; the speed, pitch, and bass level. It also sounded a bit off near the end. I personally don’t mind the bubbling or clapping sounds in the original film audio, faint as they are, but to each their own. 🙂

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My tracklist is based on every single bit of music in the film. Some cues are combined into suites as to not overload the theoretical album with extremely short tracks. Disc 1 contains a total of 43 minutes and 17 seconds of music, and Disc 2 contains 46 minutes and 18 seconds of music for a grand total of 1 hour, 29 minutes and 25 seconds of music; all of the music in the film save for three duplicates (the Lovejoy chase is moved to "Jack Dawson’s Luck" while the original shorter cue is omitted, the Carpathia scene is omitted in favor of the scene in which Rose drops the Heart of the Ocean into the sea, and the cue after "My Heart Will Go On" is actually just the second half of the theatrical version of "Take Her To Sea, Mr Murdoch" which I renamed "Maiden Voyage" in this album).

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My tracklist is based on every single bit of music in the film. Some cues are combined into suites as to not overload the theoretical album with extremely short tracks. Disc 1 contains a total of 43 minutes and 17 seconds of music, and Disc 2 contains 46 minutes and 18 seconds of music for a grand total of 1 hour, 29 minutes and 25 seconds of music; all of the music in the film save for three duplicates (the Lovejoy chase is moved to "Jack Dawson’s Luck" while the original shorter cue is omitted, the Carpathia scene is omitted in favor of the scene in which Rose drops the Heart of the Ocean into the sea, and the cue after "My Heart Will Go On" is actually just the second half of the theatrical version of "Take Her To Sea, Mr Murdoch" which I renamed "Maiden Voyage" in this album).
Good work , i think im gonna use it for my own complete score.
About the bootleg im not sure it will happen soon but next month with the release of the blu ray we might get a new decent score edit.

The blu-ray releases next month? Excellent, I was wondering about that. Thanks. I just checked it out and apparently it releases on September 10th. I can’t wait! 😀

Of course, it would be better if someone just released the recording sessions. It’s been over a decade!

That’s true, the thread is dead for now ; except the excellent work of Jeanbaker and some good edits, materials here and there that members like theodred27 or you shared with us, we don’t have many things to deal with…

As theodred27 said and as I think I said before, we can do nothing but wait the Blu-Ray and pray for a complete fan edit! I agree, an Isolated Socre would have been heaven! If only I could get by in editing music, I’d do it myself! But I am very bad with it.

So, I rely on my hope to see this thread "resuscitated" in September thanks to one or several saviors!

1 Never An Absolution 3:02 (*)
2 Valse Septembre 3:41 (***)
3 A Life So Changed 2:14 (*)
4 Distant Memories 2:24 (*)
5 Titanic Suite (**)
6 The Lucky Ticket 0:54 (unreleased)
7 Wedding Dance 2:33 (***)
8 Rose 2:52 (*)
9 Titanic The ship of dreams 2:48 (unreleased)
10 Poet and Peasant 6:51 (***)
11 Southampton 4:02 (*)
12 Blue Danube 6:57 (***)
13 Boiler Room 0:56 (unreleased)
14 An Irish Party In Third Class ( with dialogues) (**)
15 Song Without Words (***)
16 Departure 1:37 (unreleased)
17 Estudiantina 3:13 (***)
18 A Party in Irish Class 3:36 ( original version)
19 Leaving Port 3:20 (*)
20 All Ahead Full 4:19 (unreleased)
21 Vision of Salome 2:44 (***)
22 08 My Heart Will Go On (Titanic) 4:29 (*)
23 Marguerite Waltz 2:36 (***)
24 The Titanic Sinking 10:55 (jean baker edit)
25 Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch 4:32 (*)
26 Hard To Starboard 6:52 (*)
27 The Sinking 5:05 (*)
28 Alexander’s Ragtime Band 2:30 (**)
29 Heart of The Ocean/Final Scene (baker’s edit) 2:32
30 Sphinx 3:50 (***)
31 Unable To Stay, Unwilling To Leave 3:57 (*)
32 My Heart Will Go On (With Dialogue From The Film) 4:43 (**)
33 Barcarole 3:33 (***)
34 Death of Titanic 8:27 (*)
35 A Promise Kept 6:03 (*)
36 Orpheus 8:42 (***)
37 Nearer My God To Thee 2:50 (**)
38 Song of Autumn 3:55 (***)
41 Hymn To The Sea 6:30 (*)
43 Alexander’s Rag Band 2:32 (**)
44 An Ocean Of Memories 7:58 (*)
45 The Portrait 4:44 (**)
46 Jack Dawson’s Luck 5:39 (**)
47 A Building Panic 8:09 (**)
48 Come Josephine, In My Flying Machine 3:33 (**)
49 Lament 4:36 (**)
50 A Shore Never Reached 4:27 (*)
51 Epilogue: The Deep And Timeless Sea 12:38 (**)
52 Rose Suicide Attempt 1:58 (unreleased
53 Departure Movie Version 1:55 (alternate baker’s edit)
54 Titanic – Finale 4:11 ( Hakurei’s rip)
55 Jack’s death 2:33 (unreleased)
56 The Sketch 1:46 (film version rip)

(*): music from the original score
(**) Music from back to titanic
(***) Music from the anniversary edition

Music that I don’t have:
Take her to the sea Mr Murdoch (ending credits version)
Im the king of the world (Jean Baker’s edit) but i think it is pretty much the same than "full ahead"

Good god, that is a mess. As for "Take her to sea Mr Murdoch (ending credits version)" and "Im the king of the world (Jean Baker’s edit)" wouldn’t my edit be satisfactory? As I’m sure I mentioned somewhere, mine is basically the first half of the album version combined with the ending credits version to form a cohesive whole that almost perfectly matches the film version.

My Titanic soundtrack is rather messy as well, and sometimes I even prefer to listen to my complete score with full sound effects. But mine’s still more orderly than yours, and the first half is in chronological order. The fact that I completely ignored everything the orchestra performs with the exception of "Nearer, My God, To Thee" possibly helps.

1. Back to Titanic (1:25)
2. Distant Memories (2:26)
3. Southampton (4:02)
4. Leaving Port (3:26)
5. Take Her to Sea, Mr Murdoch (4:31)
6. You Jump, I Jump (6:02)
7. Rose (2:52)
8. The Portrait (4:43)
9. Hard to Starboard (6:52)
10. A Building Panic (8:09)
11. Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave (3:56)
12. Nearer, My God, To Thee (3:46)
13. The Sinking of the Titanic (10:37)
14. Never Let Go (4:18)
15. The Heart of the Ocean (2:06)
16. A Promise Kept (2:32)
17. Hymn to the Sea (6:25)
18. Maiden Voyage (2:21)
19. The Sinking (5:05)
20. Death of Titanic (8:26)
21. Remembrance (3:03)
22. Ocean of Secrets (7:57)
23. Lament (4:36)
24. A Shore Never Reached (4:27)
25. Requiem for Titanic (6:30)
26. Dream of Autumn (6:09)
27. Ode to Titanic (10:08)
28. Shattered Dreams (8:23)
29. Never an Absolution (5:21)
30. The Deep and Timeless Sea (7:16)
31. Finale (2:23)

Total runtime: 2:40:27

Then of course, I have a shorter, cleaner version of "The Portrait" that sounds exactly like the version in the film, a funny little edit of "The Sinking", a strange edit of "Southampton", the aforementioned edit of "Take Her to Sea, Mr Murdoch", another edit called Third Class Corridors, which is 3:54, a clean version of "An Irish Party In Third Class", numerous versions of "Nearer, My God, To Thee" and "My Heart Will Go On", and an edit by someone on the internet called "Rose at the Stern" which is 1:57 long. I haven’t organized those yet.

I’m probably going to completely revamp my soundtrack in the near future. A lot of tracks are renamed and the longer tracks from the Back to Titanic album are split and it’s just a total fiasco. I’m also in the process of completely redoing my complete score with all the sound effects intact, just to get a sort of idea of what I’m missing out on. 🙁

My Titanic soundtrack is rather messy as well, and sometimes I even prefer to listen to my complete score with full sound effects. But mine’s still more orderly than yours, and the first half is in chronological order. The fact that I completely ignored everything the orchestra performs with the exception of "Nearer, My God, To Thee" possibly helps.

1. Back to Titanic (1:25)
2. Distant Memories (2:26)
3. Southampton (4:02)
4. Leaving Port (3:26)
5. Take Her to Sea, Mr Murdoch (4:31)
6. You Jump, I Jump (6:02)
7. Rose (2:52)
8. The Portrait (4:43)
9. Hard to Starboard (6:52)
10. A Building Panic (8:09)
11. Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave (3:56)
12. Nearer, My God, To Thee (3:46)
13. The Sinking of the Titanic (10:37)
14. Never Let Go (4:18)
15. The Heart of the Ocean (2:06)
16. A Promise Kept (2:32)
17. Hymn to the Sea (6:25)
18. Maiden Voyage (2:21)
19. The Sinking (5:05)
20. Death of Titanic (8:26)
21. Remembrance (3:03)
22. Ocean of Secrets (7:57)
23. Lament (4:36)
24. A Shore Never Reached (4:27)
25. Requiem for Titanic (6:30)
26. Dream of Autumn (6:09)
27. Ode to Titanic (10:08)
28. Shattered Dreams (8:23)
29. Never an Absolution (5:21)
30. The Deep and Timeless Sea (7:16)
31. Finale (2:23)

Total runtime: 2:40:27

Then of course, I have a shorter, cleaner version of "The Portrait" that sounds exactly like the version in the film, a funny little edit of "The Sinking", a strange edit of "Southampton", the aforementioned edit of "Take Her to Sea, Mr Murdoch", another edit called Third Class Corridors, which is 3:54, a clean version of "An Irish Party In Third Class", numerous versions of "Nearer, My God, To Thee" and "My Heart Will Go On", and an edit by someone on the internet called "Rose at the Stern" which is 1:57 long. I haven’t organized those yet.

I’m probably going to completely revamp my soundtrack in the near future. A lot of tracks are renamed and the longer tracks from the Back to Titanic album are split and it’s just a total fiasco. I’m also in the process of completely redoing my complete score with all the sound effects intact, just to get a sort of idea of what I’m missing out on. 🙁

You are probably right , im kinda lost with all these edits some cues in my list should be deleted.
I think im going to do the same, this is the most messy complete score I have.
Don’t forget to include in your sfx complete score version the deleted scene "Rose in the third class" which contains the cleanest version of "jack & Rose first eyes contact". Too bad that Baker is gone because with just a bit of editing we would at least get a clean version of it.

I tried to contact him through his youtube channel and he did not answer back

Maybe TOP MEN got a hold of him.

You are welcome.

nice, this sounds pretty good. thank you.

This is what I found. I think it’s pretty accurate and decent

This is what I found. I think it’s pretty accurate and decent

I agree , if I remember corectly baker already made a mix of this cue.

Extra Cues , I think I got some from him by using youtube to mp3.

very true.

Even if I think that we’ll never be enough to convince Sony >_<‘

Even if I think that we’ll never be enough to convince Sony >_<‘

So do I; I think we should try a robbery.

If we tried that, they’d kill us all.

It is a great cue , with a little amount of sfx.

It is a great cue , with a little amount of sfx.

Most of the first half is scattered around A Building Panic but it’s pretty good.

It’s good to try , too bad this cue isn’t in the score. Is there someone who is planning to get the blu ray?

Nice try, Lehnaru for your track ; it’s a shame for the SFX, but I could not do half of the work you did on that track, so… Thank you anyway^^

Patience!

The Blu-ray is 5.1, the DVD is 6.1. Aside from a minimal quality difference (especially considering it’s all sound effects) there’s no need to bother trying to extract audio from this particular film on Blu-ray.

I have a Blu-ray player, and a Blu-ray drive for my computer and plan on buying the 3D combo pack, but I’m not bothering to extract anything from it because there’s just no point.

The Blu-ray is 5.1, the DVD is 6.1. Aside from a minimal quality difference (especially considering it’s all sound effects) there’s no need to bother trying to extract audio from this particular film on Blu-ray.

I have a Blu-ray player, and a Blu-ray drive for my computer and plan on buying the 3D combo pack, but I’m not bothering to extract anything from it because there’s just no point.

Well i guess there s no hope.

The Blu-ray is 5.1, the DVD is 6.1. Aside from a minimal quality difference (especially considering it’s all sound effects) there’s no need to bother trying to extract audio from this particular film on Blu-ray.

I have a Blu-ray player, and a Blu-ray drive for my computer and plan on buying the 3D combo pack, but I’m not bothering to extract anything from it because there’s just no point.

Pffffff

The Blu-ray was out last hope, but I was afraid that something could be wrong. Thank you for your post, even if if it’s really bad news. Now, it’s official, we’re fucked, dudes…

This film’s mix is DTS-HD 5.1 for all releases of the Blu-ray, 2D and 3D no matter what country you buy it in.

The 6.1 track on the DVD added a discrete rear center, which was ONLY for sound effects, not music.

Anyways, in an effort to be grassroots and to siphon my enthusiasm into something potentially useful, I did create a petition to get the score released. Obviously the site is a little rusty right now but it still works, and I’ll beef it up as I go along.

TITANIC: The Complete Score Petition (http://www.titanicscore.com)

Maybe this + Facebook will help convince some executive? Unlikely, but you never know!

That’s a pretty bold assumption to make. This guy has the complete scores to Transformers ergo he’s got the complete score to anything.

you should probably remove the mention of releasing the recording sessions, if the complete score is released, the RS will not be needed

???

Doesnt that seem a little redundant?

IF it were me, I would avoid any and all mention of the ALLEGED recording sessions in an official petition. First, the citing of a bootleg source such as that will NOT endear you to the official sources you are trying to win over, and will clearly mark you as one of the pirates they so loathe. Secondly, the main reason cited for those "sessions" to have not come out is theat they are too hot at the moment, and that too much attention is focused on them. Putting them into this petition certainly is not going to help. And, I call them alleged, and use quotes because until we see them produced, and hear them, we do not know if they really exist and or are the real deal,. Dig?

I hope WWW415 will upload the full score.

I hope WWW415 will upload the full score.

Yes I said this before , Im sure we could edit this piece with the motif heard in the deleted scene , when rose goes in the third class.

No I dont think so , the only new things are some unreleased documentaries about the titanic , that’s all.

Well I dont have their number and I dont know if you might even be able to get it but you could try IMDB pro which has , if my memory is good , email adress at least.

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I tried but the number wasn’t working.

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I tried but the number wasn’t working.

Aha xD. It does not surprise me at all.

William

William

errr…did I miss something?

William

You made a huge effort, If I remember correctly Sony owns the right for the score.

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Sorry I read wrong on iTunes.

Glad to see that Jeanbaker did not forget us! That’s crazy to see that, even him, finally admits that it’s impossible to recover this bloody score! More than never, he is our last hope to have the closest track from the film version!

I’m so angry against Sony >< I admitt, I download somes scores, but because the complete are never (or almost) released, and that’s what I look for. But, if a Titanic complete score was released, I would not hesitate and would buy it right now!

Glad to see that Jeanbaker did not forget us! That’s crazy to see that, even him, finally admits that it’s impossible to recover this bloody score! More than never, he is our last hope to have the closest track from the film version!

I’m so angry against Sony >< I admitt, I download somes scores, but because the complete are never (or almost) released, and that’s what I look for. But, if a Titanic complete score was released, I would not hesitate and would buy it right now!

Yes I would definetly do the same , even for 50 bucks.

I’d spend no more than $120 and no less than $0.

Don’t worry, we understand that you are busy!

It would be the least we can do to help you in your search, but, I really don’t know how to start. I make daily or weekly research on the Web, but I never find anything… And I know nobody who is important or works for Sony…

Anyway, welcome back, dear jeanbaker!^^

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Now because the car scene has to much background noise, i’m composing it from zero, starting with piano and other instruments, if i will succeed to recreate that music or much simile possible, i will share with you, 🙂 in time, i made the first part with piano! i’ll do the rest only if you like it! 🙂 ciao!

http://hotfile.com/dl/174412561/f17f39b/Car_Scene_Part1_(Piano).m4a.html

Your version of "First Eye Meet" is the absolute best out there.
Keep up to good work!!!!!

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Now because the car scene has to much background noise, i’m composing it from zero, starting with piano and other instruments, if i will succeed to recreate that music or much simile possible, i will share with you, 🙂 in time, i made the first part with piano! i’ll do the rest only if you like it! 🙂 ciao!

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Indeed this is the best version out there (Ive not listened to your second link). By the way , a long time ago we talk about the idea of extracting the music from one of the deleted scene which provides a cleaner cue of first eyes contact at least at the begining , Im sure if we mix it with what you have here we could get a extended cue without sfx.

I dont have it , the scene can be seen here Titanic deleted scene: Rose visits Jack in Third Class. – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLXgnuvf0v8)
But of course we need the dvd for this one , Even though im thinking about paying for the blu ray I dont know how to extract.

Aha!!
Didn’t think of that.

They’re on disc 3.

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Well technically its not so hard if the deleted scenes are on disc 3 or 4

They’re on disc 3.

They’re on disc 3.

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sorry I posted wrong

For the car scene, i’m so glad you like it! I worked on it all nite to make that much simile possible to the original, but i have more work to do for the woodwind i struments, i’m working with garage band and logic with my keyboard, i know its not like a real orchestra, but the positive things is that horner used much synthesized instruments and effect for titanic 🙂
Thank you again

For the car scene, i’m so glad you like it! I worked on it all nite to make that much simile possible to the original, but i have more work to do for the woodwind i struments, i’m working with garage band and logic with my keyboard, i know its not like a real orchestra, but the positive things is that horner used much synthesized instruments and effect for titanic 🙂
Thank you again

All right , I cant wait to hear the rest of it.

TITANIC SCORE: Love Theme (Unreleased) – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seCUufq0aXk)

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You could maybe mix it with film audio.
I mean the last part is sfx free if i’m right

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You could maybe mix it with film audio.
I mean the last part is sfx free if i’m right

Thank you ahahah123 – yes i know wasn’t real instruments, but i used the high definition orchestranof garage band and logic pro for the synth effect, i’ll do some edit of it, but in time, hope you enjoy for this! It was very difficult to made! 🙂 ciao

I am very happy with it!!! 🙂

You should use my edit of Take Her To Sea, Mr Murdoch 😉

@JeanBaker: Beautiful edit as always; I’ll be adding it to my collection. 🙂

The four discs edition ( Original Score , Back to Titanic , Salonisti and the white Star line cd )
In the unreleased stuff we have (according to my collection)

Jean Baker’s edits
Boiler Scene
Titanic The Ship of Dreams
The Winning Ticket
All Ahead Full
The Departure
First Eye Contact
The Titanic Sinking
Im the King of the World
Heart of the Ocean
Traped under E deck
The Car Scene (Love Theme)
Lehnaru’s Edit
Take Her to the Sea Mr Murdoch

Additional Stuff
The Winning Ticket (Original Version)
Rose Suicide Attempt
An Irish Party in Third Class (Clean Version)

Im probably missing some things. The additional stuff are several cues Ive picked from youtube they are made by various people.

Probably but I dont know deeply the scores nor do I have the skills in mixing.

The submarine SFX at the end of the opening titles really aren’t that bad, or distracting, and it’s the best we have. At least the first 3/4 of the track is completely clean! Also, the very end just before the credits is nearly perfect, except for some minor bubbling noises halfway through and some VERY light clapping near the end. I use those for the beginning and end of my tracklist. 😛

Hey jeanbaker, use this track for reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciuo3AC-Axg). It’s the audio of the wreck scene, all of it. 🙂

Here’s the music from Jack’s death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF3cEitwXLI). Could you improve it?

This is why we try to keep this thread alive.

Well Jean Baker made an edit of this. Check out the previous post.

This can be useful
Chronological Scores / Soundtracks: Titanic (http://chrono-score.blogspot.fr/2012/09/titanic.html)

This can be useful
Chronological Scores / Soundtracks: Titanic (http://chrono-score.blogspot.fr/2012/09/titanic.html)

That’s a very messy list. The album edits are all wrong anyway. :/

Here’s the music from Jack’s death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF3cEitwXLI). Could you improve it?

Allright! I think i can do this! Is very diffficult but i can do it, 🙂 there ar much mix about salonisti unreleased music i have, and more mix with part of the ost, let me see what i can do! Ciao 🙂

I know there are a lot of different editions of this film on DVD, personally I have a 2 disc editions with the videos from behind the scenes splitted all across the film. But maybe another edition contains this featurette in high quality (because the YouTube video lacks of it). What do you think?

Here is the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdHlowwUPzI)

I know there are a lot of different editions of this film on DVD, personally I have a 2 disc editions with the videos from behind the scenes splitted all across the film. But maybe another edition contains this featurette in high quality (because the YouTube video lacks of it). What do you think?

Here is the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdHlowwUPzI)

Thank you so much! That is so strange how it’s hidden in there! xD

Thank you for the information.

I know there are a lot of different editions of this film on DVD, personally I have a 2 disc editions with the videos from behind the scenes splitted all across the film. But maybe another edition contains this featurette in high quality (because the YouTube video lacks of it). What do you think?

Here is the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdHlowwUPzI)

This might be very useful for us to fill our complete score.

Definitely!

Here is the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSDqw3oQ9qo)

It’s strange… If no DVD has this video, then maybe somebody else edited it? Sombody who has the music? Mmm no, I don’t think so.

I realize than I had not come yet to give my impressions on JeanBaker’s work. What to say? As usual, my dear JeanBaker, it’s just awesome work you did on the "love theme". Honestly, it’s not my favorite theme at all in the score, but it’s Horner though and I particularly love the end of the track that marks the transition from the car scene to the beautiful night view of the "Titanic".

You managed to recreate this, so great! You’re are definitely our man, dude!

I listened to the "SFX" versions of the "Wreck", and I must say that I am very eager to get this clean, one day ; such a great atmosphere in this track ; beautiful, nostalgic, melancholic and a little gloomy! Perfect!

Go on like this, Jean! 😉

"You Jump, I Jump" is a compilation of the music that plays when Jack first sees Rose, Rose attempts suicide, Cal gives Rose the Heart of the Ocean, and Jack shows Rose his drawings. "Distant Memories" is extended at the end by the piano piece that plays in the scene just before "The Portrait"; which, by the way, was fancifully extended by chopping the second album version’s length clean in half. Most of my titles are direct, relevant, and completely self-explanatory, although I’m having trouble figuring out what to name "Women and Children First" since the title really doesn’t fit Rose rescuing Jack, but it will do for now. All of the tracks have a few seconds added on to them for the addition of extra time for fade outs, openings, and cut bits (overlap, loud sound effects, unfinished pieces, etc.). They are all ripped straight from the film with sound effects included and the slight edits I mentioned above. I’ll upload the entire thing to YouTube in the next few weeks. Please tell me what you think, and here’s to hoping that someone actually releases the complete score!

Disc 1 – 44:28

1. Back to Titanic (Opening Titles) – 1:25
2. Ghost Ship – 5:59
3. Distant Memories – 3:55
4. Southampton – 2:23
5. Jack Dawson???s Luck – 1:29
6. Leaving Port – 1:12
7. Maiden Voyage – 3:51
8. You Jump, I Jump – 5:52
9. A Real Party – 4:31
10. Last Sunset – 2:42
11. The Portrait – 2:21
12. To the Stars – 2:09
13. Hard to Starboard – 6:39

Disc 2 – 49:40

14. Women and Children First – 4:15
15. Falling Apart – 5:38
16. Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave – 3:36
17. Third Class Corridors – 3:47
18. Nearer, My God, To Thee – 2:59
19. Shattered Dreams – 3:10
20. Death of Titanic – 7:28
21. Never Let Go – 5:30
22. The Heart of the Ocean – 1:34
23. Never an Absolution – 1:52
24. A Promise Kept – 2:29
25. My Heart Will Go On (End Credits) – 4:42
26. The Ship of Dreams (End Credits) – 2:40

Total – 94:08

"You Jump, I Jump" is a compilation of the music that plays when Jack first sees Rose, Rose attempts suicide, Cal gives Rose the Heart of the Ocean, and Jack shows Rose his drawings. "Distant Memories" is extended at the end by the piano piece that plays in the scene just before "The Portrait"; which, by the way, was fancifully extended by chopping the second album version’s length clean in half. Most of my titles are direct, relevant, and completely self-explanatory, although I’m having trouble figuring out what to name "Women and Children First" since the title really doesn’t fit Rose rescuing Jack, but it will do for now. All of the tracks have a few seconds added on to them for the addition of extra time for fade outs, openings, and cut bits (overlap, loud sound effects, unfinished pieces, etc.). They are all ripped straight from the film with sound effects included and the slight edits I mentioned above. I’ll upload the entire thing to YouTube in the next few weeks. Please tell me what you think, and here’s to hoping that someone actually releases the complete score!

Disc 1 – 44:28

1. Back to Titanic (Opening Titles) – 1:25
2. Ghost Ship – 5:59
3. Distant Memories – 3:55
4. Southampton – 2:23
5. Jack Dawson’s Luck – 1:29
6. Leaving Port – 1:12
7. Maiden Voyage – 3:51
8. You Jump, I Jump – 5:52
9. A Real Party – 4:31
10. Last Sunset – 2:42
11. The Portrait – 2:21
12. To the Stars – 2:09
13. Hard to Starboard – 6:39

Disc 2 – 49:40

14. Women and Children First – 4:15
15. Falling Apart – 5:38
16. Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave – 3:36
17. Third Class Corridors – 3:47
18. Nearer, My God, To Thee – 2:59
19. Shattered Dreams – 3:10
20. Death of Titanic – 7:28
21. Never Let Go – 5:30
22. The Heart of the Ocean – 1:34
23. Never an Absolution – 1:52
24. A Promise Kept – 2:29
25. My Heart Will Go On (End Credits) – 4:42
26. The Ship of Dreams (End Credits) – 2:40

Total – 94:08

I like it but Should not the heart of the ocean be put just before tracks 25 & 26?

I finally got around to composing a rough track list for the complete score for no other reason than to give myself a taste of and torment myself about what we’re missing. I referenced the newest version of my SFX score as well as, to a far lesser extent, the official albums. I did my best to arrange all of the music in chronological order, but "Jack Dawson’s Luck" and "Never an Absolution" had to be replaced by their slightly longer counterparts since they made the identical shorter versions redundant. Due to the importance of the opening titles, I included the track despite the fact that it’s a duplicate of the track that plays during Jack’s death. I also did this with the very last track, "The Ship of Dreams"; it is a duplicate of the second half of "Take Her To Sea, Mr Murdoch", which I renamed here to "Maiden Voyage", because I didn’t want Celine Dion’s awful song ending the list. Both duplicates are justified by the fact that "Back to Titanic" contains a lengthy fade in and fade out and "The Ship of Dreams" has that haunting bit at the end which I extended with the ending of "Hymn to the Sea" from the first album.

"You Jump, I Jump" is a compilation of the music that plays when Jack first sees Rose, Rose attempts suicide, Cal gives Rose the Heart of the Ocean, and Jack shows Rose his drawings. "Distant Memories" is extended at the end by the piano piece that plays in the scene just before "The Portrait"; which, by the way, was fancifully extended by chopping the second album version’s length clean in half. Most of my titles are direct, relevant, and completely self-explanatory, although I’m having trouble figuring out what to name "Women and Children First" since the title really doesn’t fit Rose rescuing Jack, but it will do for now. All of the tracks have a few seconds added on to them for the addition of extra time for fade outs, openings, and cut bits (overlap, loud sound effects, unfinished pieces, etc.). They are all ripped straight from the film with sound effects included and the slight edits I mentioned above. I’ll upload the entire thing to YouTube in the next few weeks. Please tell me what you think, and here’s to hoping that someone actually releases the complete score!

Disc 1 – 44:28

1. Back to Titanic (Opening Titles) – 1:25
2. Ghost Ship – 5:59
3. Distant Memories – 3:55
4. Southampton – 2:23
5. Jack Dawson’s Luck – 1:29
6. Leaving Port – 1:12
7. Maiden Voyage – 3:51
8. You Jump, I Jump – 5:52
9. A Real Party – 4:31
10. Last Sunset – 2:42
11. The Portrait – 2:21
12. To the Stars – 2:09
13. Hard to Starboard – 6:39

Disc 2 – 49:40

14. Women and Children First – 4:15
15. Falling Apart – 5:38
16. Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave – 3:36
17. Third Class Corridors – 3:47
18. Nearer, My God, To Thee – 2:59
19. Shattered Dreams – 3:10
20. Death of Titanic – 7:28
21. Never Let Go – 5:30
22. The Heart of the Ocean – 1:34
23. Never an Absolution – 1:52
24. A Promise Kept – 2:29
25. My Heart Will Go On (End Credits) – 4:42
26. The Ship of Dreams (End Credits) – 2:40

Total – 94:08

@jedisaurus: That’s a much better idea. A lot less work for me!

EDIT: If you guys want the Audacity version plug-in, then here ya go. It’s called "Parametric EQ"
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Ny…#Parametric_EQ

This could be very useful for " the wreck" and other cues who might even be updated. I think it could be a good tip for Baker.

What do you mean by that?

Also, your link is broken: Nyquist Effect Plug-ins – Audacity Wiki (http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyquist_Effect_Plug-ins#Parametric_EQ)

EDIT: I’m having an issue with the Southampton cue that OmarReyes found. I turned it into a dual-channel stereo track at the cost of some quality (obviously) and I managed to enhance it beautifully with DFX, but DFX can’t save files, so I can’t share it. Any ideas?

Also, your link is broken: Nyquist Effect Plug-ins – Audacity Wiki (http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyquist_Effect_Plug-ins#Parametric_EQ)

EDIT: I’m having an issue with the Southampton cue that OmarReyes found. I turned it into a dual-channel stereo track at the cost of some quality (obviously) and I managed to enhance it beautifully with DFX, but DFX can’t save files, so I can’t share it. Any ideas?

I mean giving him credits for the song he has recomposed. The term version 1.0 is because we talked last time with Jean to release a complete score but of course I dont think it would be completely full and we would certainly have others versions after this one.

I know there are a lot of different editions of this film on DVD, personally I have a 2 disc editions with the videos from behind the scenes splitted all across the film. But maybe another edition contains this featurette in high quality (because the YouTube video lacks of it). What do you think?

Here is the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdHlowwUPzI)

Just so you guys know, I can say for sure that this is NOT a dvd featurette. Did you notice that there’s no interviews? These are B-Roll Montages. Meaning there’s always some crew member filming with this secondary camera, footage to be used in behind-the-scenes features, so something like this would never appear as you see it on youtube on a dvd or even blu-ray release, as to how it got on youtube with the music isolated (unfortunately in mono) in the left channel I have no clue, but you won’t find this on a dvd anywhere, that doesn’t mean a higher quality version won’t be available somewhere though.

EDIT: If you guys want the Audacity version plug-in, then here ya go. It’s called "Parametric EQ"
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Ny…#Parametric_EQ

This could be very useful for " the wreck" and other cues who might even be updated. I think it could be a good tip for Baker.

And don’t forget to thank the guy who gave you this response: http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/harry-potter-deathly-hallows-part-ii-expanded-96384/7.html#post2189429

@zeeky: I’ve seen similar featurettes for Pirates 4. They have all the music in one channel and the talking in the other channel, and it sounds like music that might not even be Pirates, but is attempting to be Pirates.

Doesn’t it say at the end it’s from a digital press kit?

Well, then I guess we have to try and track down said press kit. I know for certain this isn’t on the public DVD though.

"You Jump, I Jump" is a compilation of the music that plays when Jack first sees Rose, Rose attempts suicide, Cal gives Rose the Heart of the Ocean, and Jack shows Rose his drawings. "Distant Memories" is extended at the end by the piano piece that plays in the scene just before "The Portrait"; which, by the way, was fancifully extended by chopping the second album version’s length clean in half. Most of my titles are direct, relevant, and completely self-explanatory, although I’m having trouble figuring out what to name "Women and Children First" since the title really doesn’t fit Rose rescuing Jack, but it will do for now. All of the tracks have a few seconds added on to them for the addition of extra time for fade outs, openings, and cut bits (overlap, loud sound effects, unfinished pieces, etc.). They are all ripped straight from the film with sound effects included and the slight edits I mentioned above. I’ll upload the entire thing to YouTube in the next few weeks. Please tell me what you think, and here’s to hoping that someone actually releases the complete score!

Disc 1 – 44:28

1. Back to Titanic (Opening Titles) – 1:25
2. Ghost Ship – 5:59
3. Distant Memories – 3:55
4. Southampton – 2:23
5. Jack Dawson’s Luck – 1:29
6. Leaving Port – 1:12
7. Maiden Voyage – 3:51
8. You Jump, I Jump – 5:52
9. A Real Party – 4:31
10. Last Sunset – 2:42
11. The Portrait – 2:21
12. To the Stars – 2:09
13. Hard to Starboard – 6:39

Disc 2 – 49:40

14. Women and Children First – 4:15
15. Falling Apart – 5:38
16. Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave – 3:36
17. Third Class Corridors – 3:47
18. Nearer, My God, To Thee – 2:59
19. Shattered Dreams – 3:10
20. Death of Titanic – 7:28
21. Never Let Go – 5:30
22. The Heart of the Ocean – 1:34
23. Never an Absolution – 1:52
24. A Promise Kept – 2:29
25. My Heart Will Go On (End Credits) – 4:42
26. The Ship of Dreams (End Credits) – 2:40

Total – 94:08

How is your edit going?

I’ve taken the left channel and made it a stereo mix. It’s far from perfect, but much better than listening to it on one channel.

https://hotfile.com/dl/178895664/b26759e/Titanic_Suite.mp3.html

-BT7

I’ve taken the left channel and made it a stereo mix. It’s far from perfect, but much better than listening to it on one channel.

https://hotfile.com/dl/178895664/b26759e/Titanic_Suite.mp3.html

-BT7

Thank You very much!!!!

I listened through the MP3, and this is insanely interesting. It’s broken down below. I’ll also be attempting to enhance and restore the audio to make it a bit clearer.

From 00:00 – 02:21, there’s the Southampton 1912 cue, almost in its entirety (it fades out at the part where Rose says "it was the ship of dreams, to everyone else." Huzzah!

2:21 – 2:47 sounds like perhaps an alternate take on the finale of "Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch". Due to the fanfare style, I wonder if perhaps this was an alternate take on the "End Credits" theme as the credits come to a close?

2:48 – 4:13 is the "Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave" pipe segment as used in the end credits.

4:13 – 5:37 is unused. I think this may have been intended for the scene where Lovejoy chases Jack and Rose before they end up in the boiler room? The timing seems right, including a longer "quiet" segment, which seems to fit the deleted scene where Jack talks to Rose about Lovejoy (in the deleted scenes).

5:38 – 7:06 is part of Death of Titanic, with some instrumentals removed, but at the very beginning you can clearly hear Horner instructing the orchestra. "And one, two…" Very cool!

7:07 – 7:40: unknown/unused. Sounds like some of the ambience when Rose first looks for Jack in the flooding corridors.

7:40 – 8:13: again, unknown and unused? May be an extension of the previous cue. No idea where this one is for.

8:13 – 9:00: I want to say this is part of the wreck music…I feel like this music was used in some of the early wreck scenes as the ghostly classical music, along with Nearer My God To Thee. It may also have been used in the ship your video on the special effects?

9:00 – end is Death to Titanic, pretty close to the album version.

In any event, great find! Keeps my hopes up 🙂

-BT7

Titanic Complete Score (SFX) Part 1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?hgphbnd2h146hl7)

Titanic Complete Score (SFX) Part 2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?tzua94d3juc1jdg)

I realized I took the link down without giving the backup link, oops. If you’d like the medley I enhanced, you can download it at the following link:

http://www.titanicscore.com/downloads/JamesHornerTitanicMedley.zip

And of course, feel free to sign the petition if you haven’t already! 🙂 96 signatures and counting…

-BT7

I realized I took the link down without giving the backup link, oops. If you’d like the medley I enhanced, you can download it at the following link:

http://www.titanicscore.com/downloads/JamesHornerTitanicMedley.zip

And of course, feel free to sign the petition if you haven’t already! 🙂 96 signatures and counting…

-BT7

Incredible, i watched all special featires and making of titanic but i never recognize that! Can you please be more specific? Where did you extract this? I saw the full heart of the ocean making of, and i didnt find that, and more i checked all my dvd and blu ray to find that but nothing! Can you link me that video? Because i really want to clean that track and edit it! Oww i was forgot, in a special with cameron deep on the wreck, in background is the entire wreck music! But i have to been able to extract that because the comment of cameron.

Hi jeanbaker,
Great to see you back again!!
We’ve missed you a lot!!!;)

I’ve tried to clean it up a little:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?fue1fo344a2z1sk

This is not the entire audio track, just the first couple of minutes from it – Southampton (film version) and the alternate end to ‘Take Her to Sea, Mr. Murdoch’.

I took the source video file and pulled the AAC audio track from it to make this.

https://hotfile.com/dl/183721382/51b0662/Southampton_Track.m4a.html

I was thinking, I just can’t be the only one who checks this thread nearly every day in the hopes that someone’s found something.

At this point, I’d be willing to put down some serious $ for the recording sessions, as long as they were lossless and complete – recording sessions with multiple takes, unused cues, and the like.

WHICH wife of James Cameron are you in touch with? His first, second, third, fourth, or current wife?

William

WHICH wife of James Cameron are you in touch with? His first, second, third, fourth, or current wife?

William

Good point, that guy has always been a ladies’ man. I dont think it would change anything though….
Have you tried James Horner’s wife?

WHICH wife of James Cameron are you in touch with? His first, second, third, fourth, or current wife?

William

His current wife, Suzy Amis, I’d think. 😛

William

See what I did there? Another Star Wars spoof. My last one apparently closed threads and scared scorpranoes away, so let’s see what THIS one does….**waits**

Well, the issue really is that the only member to say they have it is William. William says he cannot release it. And, please william, no offense, but you keep posting in these threads, and it kind of rubs folks wrong…..ya see? This will NEVER see the light of day as an official release, ever. So, help us Obi_Will, you’re our only hope. :awsm:

I don’t believe him that he got the sessions. He never posted anything specific about the score. I mean come on, William, why not posting some reel and slate numbers, original cue names from the recording sessions or at least some details about the score in general?
For instance, that one cue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mC5V_jvJ9A) that appeared three times in the movie (but has not been released), did Horner compose original music for th???se scenes, that later on got rejected and tracked by the cue we hear now?

I do believe William when he says he has the music but can’t release it. I also do believe Sony are pretty intent on never letting a complete see the light of day. nor does Cameron probably. and maybe even Horner isn’t that interested by that option (though that’s just conjecture from my end). Just like Blade Runner, Titanic is condemned to be the stuff of dreams for the movie fans.

And we all know posting a cue list will trigger at least twice the insanity the same action did for scores like Pirates of the Caribbean or the Transformers movies.

but who knows. after 30 years of waiting, we finally got "Conan the Barbarian". a score that was thought lost forever. so who knows, maybe in 20 years, a complete version of Titanic will see the light of day.

What about doing something like ocean’s eleven? Breaking into sony vault and stealing the sessions !

Incredibly paranoid and accusatory against the wrong people, blatantly so. Amanda brought up a very good point about rubbing people the wrong way, which does happen often and I know exactly what she was referring to: someone says they have something from the score and he sarcastically says something along the lines of ‘dude! I told you to be quiet about it!’, which people have fallen for. People get riled up over it which is the whole point. To stir things up, and it’s just crude and immature. There’s no need for that.

I was shocked at his ranting in that now locked thread that opened a couple of days ago because he was so completely off-base and had such a massive case of mistaken identity it was laughable at best, deeply disturbing at worst. He just didn’t make any sense at all, and I couldn’t believe what I was reading because of it.

Therefore everything spoken on this forum is a perfect example of the term "take it with a grain of salt".

To believe or not to believe doesn’t really matter anymore at this point. When it’s not disturbing, it’s at the least a bit entertaining.

You’re not prepared to wait 20 years for this ?

big deal.

do you think Blade runner fans have a choice ? no. and there is NO real release of the complete blade runner score. all we have are bootlegs, and the sessions are a lost hope, as they have been lost.

do you think Conan fans had a choice before Intrada found the conan masters ? no. until Douglass Fake found the original recording master in Universal’s vault. and got the right. but it was Conan. not a movie that made so much profit it’s nearly insane. Sony is not going to licence the right to the Titanic score, whether to Intrada, Lalaland, Perseverence or any other score label. they’re keeping it under wraps, and I’m pretty sure they’ll release it, say, for the movie 20th or 25th anniversary. or maybe not. their music, their rules. it’s a sad story, but it’s the story.

In this kind of situation, you literally have only 2 choices: do with what you have (IE the released music, the movie and eventual DVD rips / Bootlegs / covers / Edits) or wait. that’s pretty much ALL you can do. whether you like it or not. so you better be prepared to live without it. because as somebody once said, just because you really really really wish very hard for something won’t make it become true.

big deal.

do you think Blade runner fans have a choice ? no. and there is NO real release of the complete blade runner score. all we have are bootlegs, and the sessions are a lost hope, as they have been lost.

do you think Conan fans had a choice before Intrada found the conan masters ? no. until Douglass Fake found the original recording master in Universal’s vault. and got the right. but it was Conan. not a movie that made so much profit it’s nearly insane. Sony is not going to licence the right to the Titanic score, whether to Intrada, Lalaland, Perseverence or any other score label. they’re keeping it under wraps, and I’m pretty sure they’ll release it, say, for the movie 20th or 25th anniversary. or maybe not. their music, their rules. it’s a sad story, but it’s the story.

In this kind of situation, you literally have only 2 choices: do with what you have (IE the released music, the movie and eventual DVD rips
Or maybe someday a isolated score

No, we deeply expected an isolated score with the release of the blu ray edition and it didnt happen…
Lalaland Emailed me back. I had asked them how went the plans for the release of a titanic deluxe edition, they told me sony wants a total control over it so as always we are fucked up.

That sucks really

And, of course, the petition is open for signatures, if you’d like the satisfaction of at least pretending to be grassroots and hoping for a release. 🙂 Titanic Score | The Complete Score Petition (http://www.titanicscore.com)

He’s been on my ignore for a short while now.

I admire your efforts, and you certainly have talent.

I don’t believe any petition is going to work simply because these things rarely succeed and Sony has turned down every opportunity (and I’m too grounded in cold reality to be as optimistic as most seem to be) but I’m glad you’re trying, and I’m glad you care. There aren’t enough Horner fans who seem to truly give a damn anymore.

So…thank you.

I’m a realist as well, so I am not as optimistic either.. (who could be?) I see it as a win-win. Either way, we’ll have something to listen to whether it is these recreated cues or the actual full sessions.. I strive for perfection and I’m using a lot of the same exact or extremely similar synthesizers and samples that James Horner himself used for the film, so it is my goal to have as similar of a sound as we can get without the real deal.. Now of course, while this is better than nothing, of course we would all (myself included) rather the actual sessions, but I think if Sony sees that people are flocking to listen to these, then they might think twice about the commercial feasibility of the full sessions. Whether they do anything about it or not isn’t really my concern.. as much as I want the sessions released I’m well aware to the cold, hard reality that it just may never happen, but in the mean time, something to listen to isn’t a bad thing as long as we are all consciously aware that these are not in any way, shape, or form actual recording sessions. I’ve already had people on Youtube message me asking for more unreleased music and asking for the full recording sessions which is simply a matter of reading the description.

One thing that would be useful is for people to tell me which music they would like to hear recreated. I want some sense of a priority here as for which cues they would like to hear next. These have given the petition fantastic support so I am eager to make more. Plus, I think a lot of people don’t hear the music as plainly as someone like I do.. I am a musician with a well-trained ear and can hear the music a lot more clearly than most people can. Titanic’s music is just a bit quieter than I think it should be but that is an age-old studio conflict.. the SFX guys and music guys are constantly trying to 1-up each other.. my point is that you have to know what you’re missing to appreciate it. Most people aren’t going to believe you if you just tell them that in reality, almost none of the actual soundtrack to the film is released (especially the fun-to-listen-to disgrace that was Back To Titanic..) and these videos have already given much more support to the petition.

So if people have any ideas as to which cues they would like to hear next I’m 100% open to suggestions. I will do this at a popularity rate because that is the smartest idea for support. If you don’t know the name, you can describe what scene(s) it appears in. I also love answering questions for further clarification.

And please, if you already haven’t, please sign the petition at www.titanicscore.com

Shane

I admire your efforts, and you certainly have talent.

I don’t believe any petition is going to work simply because these things rarely succeed and Sony has turned down every opportunity (and I’m too grounded in cold reality to be as optimistic as most seem to be) but I’m glad you’re trying, and I’m glad you care. There aren’t enough Horner fans who seem to truly give a damn anymore.

So…thank you.

I care. I just don’t want to "need" it, cause then it is always on my mind. Besides, there are other Horner scores I would rather see either as complete (like Battle Beyond The Stars) or plain old released, ie most early work. I could do with a complete Clear and Present Danger, Brainstorm, Pagemaster, Sneakers etc. Titanic is a large work, and beautiful, but not really on my most wanted, actually. Maybe that is why I can be more detached from it?

big deal.

do you think Blade runner fans have a choice ? no. and there is NO real release of the complete blade runner score. all we have are bootlegs, and the sessions are a lost hope, as they have been lost.

do you think Conan fans had a choice before Intrada found the conan masters ? no. until Douglass Fake found the original recording master in Universal’s vault. and got the right. but it was Conan. not a movie that made so much profit it’s nearly insane. Sony is not going to licence the right to the Titanic score, whether to Intrada, Lalaland, Perseverence or any other score label. they’re keeping it under wraps, and I’m pretty sure they’ll release it, say, for the movie 20th or 25th anniversary. or maybe not. their music, their rules. it’s a sad story, but it’s the story.

In this kind of situation, you literally have only 2 choices: do with what you have (IE the released music, the movie and eventual DVD rips / Bootlegs / covers / Edits) or wait. that’s pretty much ALL you can do. whether you like it or not. so you better be prepared to live without it. because as somebody once said, just because you really really really wish very hard for something won’t make it become true.

There’s no need to be rude and aggressive. As I said, I’m not prepared to wait 20 years for it, so instead of sitting around pointlessly, I’m at least going to try to do something about it.

@ShaneLessor: I’d love to hear a piano rendition of the opening titles. I’m learning how to play, but I’m not that good yet. 😛

@ShaneLessor: I’d love to hear a piano rendition of the opening titles. I’m learning how to play, but I’m not that good yet. 😛

I’m not rude. aggressive maybe, but that’s more because I’m fed up with people complaining with "I can’t go on with waiting for the score/complete score/recording sessions of [insert movie title here]" as if it would change something.

I’m not rude. I’m a pragmatic.

I’m not rude. I’m a pragmatic.

There sure are a lot of misconceptions about the nature of complaints on these forums. Complaining isn’t necessary a bad thing as long as it’s justified and/or followed up by action of some sort. I was simply expressing my dissatisfaction with the current state of things and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. Wanton aggression is generally considered rude, but I really don’t want to inflame the situation.

I suppose I’m rather lucky and as a result extra frustrated that I’ve found every single film score I’ve ever wanted on these forums (Dead Man’s Chest, At World’s End, Batman Begins, Dinotopia, Angels & Demons etc.), with the exception of Titanic, which is my definite favourite film; the soundtrack was the first music I ever listened to and it actually got me interested in music. As we all know, the Titanic situation is particularly frustrating and rather needless, though I won’t go into details about it because we’re all tired of hearing about it.

I’m certainly looking forward to the time when the full Titanic score is finally released and I’m not anticipating having to wait 2 decades, which is perfectly reasonable.

I was wondering if you’ve got access to every note recorded for this movie too?:

Which is funny, since quite a few people seem to look exactly like him here. 😉

they are under the impression that, because people have something they CANNOT share, they probably don’t really have it and so, are "full of shit" as the saying goes. Problem is that very often people DID have things they CANNOT share because other people who work for the right owners would know the leak would come from them.

and leaking Titanic’s score ?

Bad idea. that’s basically asking Sony for the mother of all spanking.

That, to me, means horseshit.

That, to me, means horseshit.

As of late (or possibly as long as he’s been a member here), phantomman86 has been a problem child in various corners of our forum. He only joined in September of this year, but his ego grew so rapidly like very few people I’ve seen before. He reminds me a bit of myself, maybe, at one point in the past: thinking he rules this forum, and that everybody should bow to him because he can do or has stuff that not many other people can do or have.

Once in a while, he posts stuff which he boasts nobody here has ever seen the likes of and that we should be immensely thankful for what his benevolent spirit has gifted us with (in layman’s terms, that means he wants every single person who downloads his stuff to praise him and suck his cyber-dick). If not enough people are expressing their thanks in his threads relative to the number of downloads his files are getting, he will withdraw his links and get all bitchy.

Banning him for this kind of behavior doesn’t seem to be the right solution, as when he does leave stuff up posted, usually it has been some unique items. It may just be that he doesn’t quite know what right and wrong behavior are for this community. Perhaps our best bet now is to put people like him on our ignore lists and just move on.

I threw him on my ignore because I didn’t feel like reading his garbage in that lossless Avatar thread.

I couldn’t care less if he stays, goes, posts or doesn’t post.

I also don’t believe that leaking that score will get anyone in trouble simply because the sheer number of scores leaked, especially by a certain someone who was clearly a fan of the show "The Sopranos" was so high, and all of them full unedited scores of a wide variety of popular films. Did he face legal trouble? Do all those scores for such huge movies just not count while Titanic does? I seriously doubt it. Some of them were also Sony titles.

The number of his own shares would easily outweigh Titanic by a massively wide margin. I think it’s just a case of it not being available. No one has gotten it out.

didn’t the two cds cover just about all the music in the film except for a very few minutes?

someone had said that the cds were actually rerecordings, and not the exact music from the film, is that so?

what is so different between the record sessions and the cds?

and i really wanted to know if this is anything: https://hotfile.com/dl/187120733/14aa37d/Titanic_recording_session.mp3.html

i found it digging around on the net. is it real or waht?

didn’t the two cds cover just about all the music in the film except for a very few minutes?

someone had said that the cds were actually rerecordings, and not the exact music from the film, is that so?

what is so different between the record sessions and the cds?

and i really wanted to know if this is anything: https://hotfile.com/dl/187120733/14aa37d/Titanic_recording_session.mp3.html

i found it digging around on the net. is it real or waht?

……………………………. :O

Where did you get that?!

The CDs covered none of the actual music used in the film, it’s ALL re-recorded. You can tell if you compare the two and listen very carefully.

Just in the case, the recreated score made by FFdream.

I’m no expert but it seems real enough to me. Perhaps it’s an alternate take or something. Can you get more?

I’ve recently seen the Titanic Complete Score Petition website. It’s an interesting effort which of course I want to support. I’d want to know who made it, because the featured clip on the site got my attention.

That "My Heart Will Go On" clip I believe it’s not a demo, or pre-recording, or an alternate take. It’s just the center channel of the DTS version of the Original Soundtrack.

This version of the disc which I own comes in a true 5.1 mix featuring the voice and some instruments in the center channels, orchestra instruments in the rear channels, and the rest in the front channels.

I’ve recently seen the Titanic Complete Score Petition website. It’s an interesting effort which of course I want to support. I’d want to know who made it, because the featured clip on the site got my attention.

That "My Heart Will Go On" clip I believe it’s not a demo, or pre-recording, or an alternate take. It’s just the center channel of the DTS version of the Original Soundtrack.

This version of the disc which I own comes in a true 5.1 mix featuring the voice and some instruments in the center channels, orchestra instruments in the rear channels, and the rest in the front channels.

I’ve had the disc for years, and when I first got it I ‘disassembled’ it and even offered up the center channels as an album here a few years ago.

I made separate ‘center’ and ‘surround’ albums because I always found it interesting to hear the music presented in that way – what’s there versus what isn’t there (such as the almost total lack of the synthesized choir or anything else that was electronic in the center channel, which is why I offered it up as an album so people could hear the orchestra on its own, albeit dominated by Sissel’s voice in some cues. I say almost because the synth choir comes in during one segment of ‘The Sinking’ for a few seconds.)

Also, I needed to do that anyway when I got the disc because I found the surrounds too low and needed to boost the gain on them a little to match the front left / center / right and give a little more power to the LFE for a more immersive listen. Came out fantastic.

I’ve recently seen the Titanic Complete Score Petition website. It’s an interesting effort which of course I want to support. I’d want to know who made it, because the featured clip on the site got my attention.

That "My Heart Will Go On" clip I believe it’s not a demo, or pre-recording, or an alternate take. It’s just the center channel of the DTS version of the Original Soundtrack.

This version of the disc which I own comes in a true 5.1 mix featuring the voice and some instruments in the center channels, orchestra instruments in the rear channels, and the rest in the front channels.

If you are talking about the Youtube video showing the New York Arrival cue music, it was me who made that. The movement (website, petition, etc) was started by the member "bandtrumpet7"

I’ve recently seen the Titanic Complete Score Petition website. It’s an interesting effort which of course I want to support. I’d want to know who made it, because the featured clip on the site got my attention.

That "My Heart Will Go On" clip I believe it’s not a demo, or pre-recording, or an alternate take. It’s just the center channel of the DTS version of the Original Soundtrack.

This version of the disc which I own comes in a true 5.1 mix featuring the voice and some instruments in the center channels, orchestra instruments in the rear channels, and the rest in the front channels.

I’m the one who made the site and registered the domain and all. As for the My Heart Will Go On clip, it’s similar to the center channel, but there’s an alternate orchestra specifically between the 2nd and 3rd verses.

Is it Horner’s secret recording? I can’t say. I can’t speak to the veracity of it as I don’t remember where I got it (I want to say Imeem — remember that place?). However, I like to think it is, and even if it’s not, it still inspires that feeling of hearing new music. Similar to when I see a new or unpublished picture of the Titanic itself, hearing something "unreleased" or at least rare has a certain thrill to it that I try to capture in the "Featured Clip" place. It’s not meant to be the place where new cues come and are featured – it’s just music that inspires others to sign the petition.

Will it do any good? I can’t say. If the score ever does get a release, I’d like to think I had a part in it (from the website and the efforts I’ve put into it). But if it doesn’t see the light of day, I’m all right with that. Knowing there are others out there who appreciate the score and want to hear the full version is incredibly satisfying.

I have some other very similar surround sound modifications to the score (they are a little more technical than simply muting or soloing a channel) and they don’t make any predictable changes because surround sound mixing is very unpredictable. However, it takes out a lot of synthesized choir stuff, keeps the orchestra and synth bass, and also gets rid of Sissel’s voice. Also, it keeps the recorded stuff (such as the orchestra) stereo. I have the entire album in this fashion. The "Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch" song is very cool after the part with the first violins + high mallet instruments when it’s just synth bass and percussion. Another cool cue is "Never an Absolution" because you don’t hear Sissel, you hear just the french horn doubling her lines.

I have some other very similar surround sound modifications to the score (they are a little more technical than simply muting or soloing a channel) and they don’t make any predictable changes because surround sound mixing is very unpredictable. However, it takes out a lot of synthesized choir stuff, keeps the orchestra and synth bass, and also gets rid of Sissel’s voice. Also, it keeps the recorded stuff (such as the orchestra) stereo. I have the entire album in this fashion. The "Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch" song is very cool after the part with the first violins + high mallet instruments when it’s just synth bass and percussion. Another cool cue is "Never an Absolution" because you don’t hear Sissel, you hear just the french horn doubling her lines.

Could you please share it? It’d be very interesting to hear. 🙂

I have some other very similar surround sound modifications to the score (they are a little more technical than simply muting or soloing a channel) and they don’t make any predictable changes because surround sound mixing is very unpredictable. However, it takes out a lot of synthesized choir stuff, keeps the orchestra and synth bass, and also gets rid of Sissel’s voice. Also, it keeps the recorded stuff (such as the orchestra) stereo. I have the entire album in this fashion. The "Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch" song is very cool after the part with the first violins + high mallet instruments when it’s just synth bass and percussion. Another cool cue is "Never an Absolution" because you don’t hear Sissel, you hear just the french horn doubling her lines.

I’m not sure what it is you have but the 5.1 mix is as follows:

The front stereo channels contain all the electronics, the center is for Sissel’s voice, chimes, percussion and woodwinds, the rear surrounds are for the choir (without electronic rhythms), chimes and orchestral reverb. The LFE needs no explanation.

The song is a little different.

The vocals and Tony Hinnigan’s solo kena flute are in the center with a bass line, while the stereo contains virtually everything else. The rears are interesting, because they only contain reverb of the kena flute, a LOT of silence, synthesized strings and the orchestra that comes in during the latter half of the song.

This folder contains the center channel mix. I made it into a fake stereo just to give it a fuller sound.

You can download them here:

http://www.sendspace.com/folder/4d1q1p

Because I had done this a long time ago I didn’t include the mixes of the song (since I don’t listen to it that way, I did something else with it) but if you want to hear the individual channels of the song I can put those up as well. ‘Never an Absolution was pointless as a center mix since it’s just silence during the uilleann pipe performance, and the rest is the exact same as ‘A Life So Changed’. I removed the opening silence of ‘Leaving Port’ for the same reason.

I can’t post it because of James Horner’s position with ASCAP and I’m also trying to register with ASCAP, and they are very strict and as a result would probably not let me register or revoke my registration once it happened and they found out about it.. However, I can tell you what to do to get that exact mix.

That’s why one uses creative names online rather than their own, especially on this particular forum.

😉

If it involves anything Adobe Audition can do, I’m all ears.

Private Message (PM).

PS.
Yes if anyone arround this forum have this recording session, he should share it with all us! I dont think anyone would have the time to haunt us as these big rarely respond to a message! he should share with us Just because a moral commitment, and not only say: bla bla bla.
I take this opportunity to say that if someone is afraid to share, then send me a PM as unknown with the recording session, I will share it with my name under my responsibility!
I’m not scared by anyone! I’m scared only by liars.

And enough is enough! next time I’ll write to Obama! 😀

Hi, theodred! Thanks, but i cant find your post! My real name on facebook is Armando Basso. If anyone wants add me you’re welcome.

My real name on facebook is Armando Basso. If anyone wants add me you’re welcome.

Unlike some people who like to brag about things with absolutely NO proof whatsoever, but instead just prefer to string others along with elaborate stories which people fall for (and then fall prey to their own paranoia and confusion), the fact that you put yourself out there (offering your REAL facebook page name) and one of the first people visible in your friend list is indeed Suzy Amis, you’re probably the ONLY person on this board who actually backs up what he claims.

So thank you for that.

Certain people with numbers in their usernames can learn a thing two, or three, or nineteen hundred and sixty-nine, about a little transparency to back up what they claim since they love to talk so much.

I’m betting some will take offense to that last sentence. Boo-hoo for them. The truth hurts don’t it?

Good luck, jeanbacker, i hope you are successfull.

Good luck, jeanbacker, i hope you are successfull.

No, you misunderstood what I was hinting at:

I was saying that of all the people who make claims to have the sessions or are trying to contact people who have the right connections, Jeanbaker is the only one so far to prove what he claimed was indeed true: He claimed that he contacted Titanic director Jim Cameron’s wife, and when he offered up his facebook name I found him on there and Cameron’s wife is on the friends list. So therefore he proved that he did indeed contact Cameron’s wife, while no one else who has claimed to have done anything, have access to anything, has yet to prove what they say is true.

That is the difference here.

A small number of people do claim to have them. They seem to take every opportunity to tell us that they do, but can’t (and in at least 1 case, just won’t) share the. Yet, even so they continue. Apparently according to one member, he has them, but we are all unworthy cunts, so he won’t share. Nice. I feel warm and fuzzy already.

I have the Titanic sessions as well. I don’t have the "Titantic" sessions though. I don’t know what those are. I got them from Horner’s representation, the Gorfaine / Schwartz agency. I can’t share them either. Not because everyone’s a cunt, but because I don’t want to be sued. I can’t show you a track list or a photo of the DATs they’re on or anything at all. But I DO have them. Yep yep yep! I’ve also been in contact with Simon Franglen and he’s going to send me a few mockups of the Spider-Man score he did with the electronic pre-lays.

See how easy it is to make up bullshit?

You’re talking about that useless troll phantoman86 or whatever his stupid username is. He’s only stirring up lies because of that Avatar thread. You can’t seriously believe he has anything of worth do you? I’m surprised he hasn’t been banned already for the garbage he spews.

Anyone can claim to have anything. Where’s the proof? Doesn’t exist because it’s just not true.

You don’t believe or disbelieve anyone but you do believe some people have them….I’m not sure that makes a lot of sense but I think I get what you’re saying.

Also, the only reason anyone thinks that a shitstorm would take place is because a certain someone (who never backed any of his claims up at all) said so. I call that a load of bullshit, just because of the massive number of scores put out there in complete presentations, some of them on the same label as Titanic, and absolutely nothing happened at all. To think those scores somehow don’t count is laughable. All those Zimmer and co. scores for the Transformers movies, Pirates movies, Horner’s Spider-Man and Avatar, the Zimmer / Howard Batman scores, just to name a select few and the list goes on from there. All of them for massive movies, none of them making a dent in this place or anywhere else.

That same unreliable source who loves to talk is also the one who said none of the score was on the album, only re-recordings. Listening to the album and watching the film easily disproves that.

If there are instrumental / orchestration differences, those are easily found in almost any movie and any score when comparing the two to each other. Doesn’t mean for a second that absolutely no score was included on the album. Even typing those words seems silly.

I’m just tired of the lies and want a little transparency. People here love to talk, love to tell stories, so they can give a little proof among all the rambling they love to do.

I just dunno about any of it. I usually pass on reading this thread. I am just sort of..tired of it. I also pass on reading a lot of stories too…..:)

parts of Southampton are edited into the film

Rose (synth choir removed)

Take Her to Sea, Mr. Murdoch (alternate ending mixed with ‘album’ version of Southampton)

Hard To Starboard (cut down a bit)

Unable To Stay, Unwilling To Leave (uilleann pipes removed)

The Sinking (chopped up but it’s the same cue)

Death Of Titanic (chopped up but it’s the same cue)

A Promise Kept (ending cut off)

A Life So Changed (cut in half in the film, but intact in the extended version of the scene)

The truly album-exclusive stuff nowhere to be found in the film are:

Never An Absolution – the uilleann pipes opening only, since the remainder is A Life So Changed verbatim

Leaving Port (though the opening string plucking effect is there in the film)

An Ocean Of Memories

Hymn To The Sea (though the ending is edited into the end credit assembly)

So like virtually every single movie in existence with a score, there are examples of the music being edited or instruments taken out of the final mix, but that doesn’t mean the music on the album is 100% unused. Again, it’s just laughable when the proof comes from watching the film itself and listening to the album itself.

If you want a GREAT example of an album that has a lot of music not present in the film, and the film music not present on the album, that’s easy: Courage Under Fire, my now second-favorite Horner score.

‘Album’ versions of cues are sometimes edited into their films if they are recorded, like they did with Titanic and Avatar, though with Avatar they weren’t used. Easily could have been considering how Cameron likes to butcher music in post. However as my list above explains, only a few examples of the Titanic soundtrack are ‘album’ versions, but that’s not every piece of music on that album.

So other people have the recording sessions, so you can seek them out!

And since that other guy on the other thread has pulled perfect tracks from the blue-ray discs, and they sound great, then you should have everything you people ever wanted!

Nuff said, William[/SIZE]

I think a lot of the "recording sessions" out there are the edits that appeared on here, and people believe (or falsely advertise) them as the real deal. I’ll believe someone has them when I hear it.

Besides, even if we had perfect 5.1 lossless tracks of all the cues as heard in the film, we’d still be missing alternate takes and unused cues, since the film’s music is so heavily edited. So, there’s a lot we’d still be wanting 🙂

I have to say I completely disagree with that, because the effect of the music in 5.1 is VASTLY superior compared to stereo, at least it is on my customized 5.1 album.

I found the rear channels far too low so I boosted the gain to make them closely match the front stereo channels, and the result is a much more immersive experience especially with the shimmering chime effects heard in "Leaving Port" and "Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch". The DTS CD and obviously the SACD offer the same mix so the rears are far too low in volume by default.

The start in the center and "rise" behind in the rears, and in the case of "Southampton" it’s a better mix on the 5.1 version. Note the brass cluster 31 seconds into the cue.

Compare the 5.1 version to the regular stereo release.

The stereo release (like in the end credit edit of the film) mutes the brass so it’s hardly noticeable, while the mix on the 5.1 release is bolder, bigger, all around better. It’s a very minor moment but it’s still a great moment.

I’ll post my custom 5.1 DTS album.

Even more than Titanic, "A Beautiful Mind" is a massive improvement in 5.1. Most of the pianos weren’t present on the regular stereo CD. I put that up a while back in both 5.1 and remixed stereo.

Whenever I listen to Titanic in stereo, I use my downmix of the 5.1 version since I can’t stand the regular stereo CD’s mix.

Uploading now…when it’s done it’ll be in the usual forum, not here in this thread.

Franglen once said of comparing the electronic work in Avatar to Titanic, and keep in mind Avatar had a LOT more electronic work in it:

"On Titanic I had two tons of gear. On Avatar I had one Mac Pro"

Franglen and Underwood programmed all of the bass line rhythms, pulses and of course the choir for Horner to play back himself on his MIDI keyboards, but as to the specifics of the sound sample libraries, no one knows. They could’ve been created or modified specifically for the film.

‘Album’ versions of cues are sometimes edited into their films if they are recorded, like they did with Titanic and Avatar, though with Avatar they weren’t used. Easily could have been considering how Cameron likes to butcher music in post. However as my list above explains, only a few examples of the Titanic soundtrack are ‘album’ versions, but that’s not every piece of music on that album.

What you said isn’t entirely true at all either. Composers do concert versions. It’s very common. These are also recorded at the recording sessions…but are these part of the final film? Nope. In 99% of cases they’re recorded specifically for the CD and never used in the film. It may sound very SIMILAR, but just because they’re similar doesn’t mean that it’s the SAME thing.

Examples:
1.) "The Canyon" from 127 Hours, by A.R. Rahman. The version on the OST is a Concert Version (Featuring a Clarinet) and was never used in the film, therefore it is NOT part of the FILM score, same goes for "Touch of the Sun" on the same Album.
2.) John Williams recorded quite a few theme suites on every one of the Harry Potter films he scored, and his theme suites are what made the CD release rather than the film versions of the respective cues. "Diagon Alley", "Hogwart’s Forever", "Fluffy’s Harp", "Dobbie The House Elf", "The Chamber of Secrets" are all fine examples of this.

I don’t know if you’re grasping how film scoring works either. Album Versions are ALBUM versions of the cues that are already scored specifically for the film, they already have a version of the cue for the film at the point the concert versions are recorded. Most cases it’s becuase the cues have to be changed from the composers original intentions to work in the film, Another example. Several times during the sessions for Alexandre Desplat’s "The Golden Compass" there are several moments where he had to tone down or sometimes lose certain instruments completely because of a dialogue, it happened several times that they had to change some cues "Due to Interference with dialogue of the little girl talking" . That’s not something they do in the mixing…USUALLY they record it without that instrument. If they could just record the cue ONCE and mix out certain instruments then why would some sessions have Alternate Versions that simply remove or add another instrument? Unless it’s a synth which is super easy to exclude. That’s what i’ve learned anyways.

And, what’s to say that what Amanda stated earlier isn’t true? That the album doesn’t contain any actual score? That has been a common knowledge for years, and sudden you say it’s not true?

No, we don’t know. We could guess, but guessing there are 25 tracks would be as good of a guess as saying there were 76 or 92 tracks.

The people who claim to have them won’t even share that information with us. More proof to me that they don’t have them at all.

Examples:
1.) "The Canyon" from 127 Hours, by A.R. Rahman. The version on the OST is a Concert Version (Featuring a Clarinet) and was never used in the film, therefore it is NOT part of the FILM score, same goes for "Touch of the Sun" on the same Album.
2.) John Williams recorded quite a few theme suites on every one of the Harry Potter films he scored, and his theme suites are what made the CD release rather than the film versions of the respective cues. "Diagon Alley", "Hogwart’s Forever", "Fluffy’s Harp", "Dobbie The House Elf", "The Chamber of Secrets" are all fine examples of this.

Yeah, and Horner did the same with "Zorro’s Theme" for the Mask Of Zorro, along with an album (call it concert if you want but essentially it’s the same basic idea – used for the album and possibly concert, not meant for the film) version of "Climbing up Ikinimaya" from Avatar. Southampton is the same thing, though elements of it were edited into the final film score.

I’m not going as far as to say they are "never" used in the film, since again, parts of "Southampton" were. "Zorro’s Theme" plays over the end credits of that film. It’s a ‘concert’ version and it’s in the film.

Not every film score has album / concert versions recorded, and yes, some that are do end up in their films usually edited in some form. Are they taking CDs and sticking them in like what jeanbaker said? Obviously not. That was my point.

I don’t know if you’re grasping how film scoring works either. Album Versions are ALBUM versions of the cues that are already scored specifically for the film, they already have a version of the cue for the film at the point the concert versions are recorded. Most cases it’s becuase the cues have to be changed from the composers original intentions to work in the film, Another example. Several times during the sessions for Alexandre Desplat’s "The Golden Compass" there are several moments where he had to tone down or sometimes lose certain instruments completely because of a dialogue, it happened several times that they had to change some cues "Due to Interference with dialogue of the little girl talking" . That’s not something they do in the mixing…USUALLY they record it without that instrument. If they could just record the cue ONCE and mix out certain instruments then why would some sessions have Alternate Versions that simply remove or add another instrument? Unless it’s a synth which is super easy to exclude. That’s what i’ve learned anyways.

And, what’s to say that what Amanda stated earlier isn’t true? That the album doesn’t contain any actual score? That has been a common knowledge for years, and sudden you say it’s not true?

It’s not like you’re telling me anything I don’t already know. Your examples are just as true as mine: in many cases elements are just taken out in post, because everything is recorded on literally dozens of tracks. Sometimes yes, they’ll record one without a certain instrument, but when that occurs it’s usually more than just one minor change like that. The alternates on "Karate Kid" are a good example of that.

Want to hear it from the experts?

Here you go:

Avatar Sound Panel – SoundWorks Collection Exclusive on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/9480589)

This is a panel discussion about creating and editing Avatar’s sound mix, including the score and how it was integrated into the mix. It’s about 47 minutes long and very informative. I recommend it to anyone, regardless of whether they’re an Avatar fan or not because it’s just an interesting topic.

Want to take a wild guess as to what they say about musical elements clashing with sound or dialogue elements?

Sometimes alternates are recorded and neither end up in the film. Jim Cameron’s movies are perfect examples.

That film version of "Climbing up Ikinimaya" was still post-edited in the film anyway.

ONE person who uses a number in his username has said that the album doesn’t contain any score.

One.

That doesn’t come close to "common knowledge for years".

Does that mean that because "Rose" in the film omits the synthesized choir that it’s an entirely separate piece of music than what’s on the album? Hardly. It’s the exact same music from a compositional standpoint. Nothing is different. It’s not longer or shorter. One electronic element was removed. That’s all, and as you said about synth elements, very easy to do.

Unless they’re recorded "live" the way Goldsmith and Poledouris did with the orchestra. Exceptions to every rule.

"Unable To Stay, Unwilling to Leave" omits the uilleann pipes in the film but they’re on the album.

I’m fully capable of listening and paying attention to both the album and the film.

Titanic is a good example of both album version recordings and simple instrumental omissions.

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The people who claim to have them won’t even share that information with us. More proof to me that they don’t have them at all.

You’re not wrong 😉

I’m not going as far as to say they are "never" used in the film, since again, parts of "Southampton" were. "Zorro’s Theme" plays over the end credits of that film. It’s a ‘concert’ version and it’s in the film.

Not every film score has album / concert versions recorded, and yes, some that are do end up in their films usually edited in some form. Are they taking CDs and sticking them in like what jeanbaker said? Obviously not. That was my point.

It’s not like you’re telling me anything I don’t already know. Your examples are just as true as mine: in many cases elements are just taken out in post, because everything is recorded on literally dozens of tracks. Sometimes yes, they’ll record one without a certain instrument, but when that occurs it’s usually more than just one minor change like that. The alternates on "Karate Kid" are a good example of that.

Want to hear it from the experts?

Here you go:

Avatar Sound Panel – SoundWorks Collection Exclusive on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/9480589)

This is a panel discussion about creating and editing Avatar’s sound mix, including the score and how it was integrated into the mix. It’s about 47 minutes long and very informative. I recommend it to anyone, regardless of whether they’re an Avatar fan or not because it’s just an interesting topic.

Want to take a wild guess as to what they say about musical elements clashing with sound or dialogue elements?

Sometimes alternates are recorded and neither end up in the film. Jim Cameron’s movies are perfect examples.

That film version of "Climbing up Ikinimaya" was still post-edited in the film anyway.

ONE person who uses a number in his username has said that the album doesn’t contain any score.

One.

That doesn’t come close to "common knowledge for years".

Does that mean that because "Rose" in the film omits the synthesized choir that it’s an entirely separate piece of music than what’s on the album? Hardly. It’s the exact same music from a compositional standpoint. Nothing is different. It’s not longer or shorter. One electronic element was removed. That’s all, and as you said about synth elements, very easy to do.

Unless they’re recorded "live" the way Goldsmith and Poledouris did with the orchestra. Exceptions to every rule.

"Unable To Stay, Unwilling to Leave" omits the uilleann pipes in the film but they’re on the album.

I’m fully capable of listening and paying attention to both the album and the film.

Titanic is a good example of both album version recordings and simple instrumental omissions.

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You’re not wrong 😉

Yup I’m just completely wrong aren’t I? All the time.

There has been FAR more than ONE person state that. I’m sure there are many people here who were under the sand notion that the album didn’t contain any score. I didn’t make it up I heard proof elsewhere. So far more than one.

Again it’s not that hard to do the exact same thing in a different cue. The end of "Super 8 Suite" from Super 8 sounds A LOT like "Letting Go" but it’s not. "Chez Olaf" sounds like almost the same performance as "Stephano" from Lemony Snicket, but it’s not. "Lachrymose Ferry" sounds A LOT like "Take Them Mr. Poe" but it’s still not the same performance.

Compositionally yes it sounds the same. We’re not saying you can’t find any of the themes on the album. We’re saying the film performance is not present. Because it isn’t.

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Yeah, and Horner did the same with "Zorro’s Theme" for the Mask Of Zorro, along with an album (call it concert if you want but essentially it’s the same basic idea – used for the album and possibly concert, not meant for the film) version of "Climbing up Ikinimaya" from Avatar. Southampton is the same thing, though elements of it were edited into the final film score.

I’m not going as far as to say they are "never" used in the film, since again, parts of "Southampton" were. "Zorro’s Theme" plays over the end credits of that film. It’s a ‘concert’ version and it’s in the film.

Not every film score has album / concert versions recorded, and yes, some that are do end up in their films usually edited in some form. Are they taking CDs and sticking them in like what jeanbaker said? Obviously not. That was my point.

It’s not like you’re telling me anything I don’t already know. Your examples are just as true as mine: in many cases elements are just taken out in post, because everything is recorded on literally dozens of tracks. Sometimes yes, they’ll record one without a certain instrument, but when that occurs it’s usually more than just one minor change like that. The alternates on "Karate Kid" are a good example of that.

Want to hear it from the experts?

Here you go:

Avatar Sound Panel – SoundWorks Collection Exclusive on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/9480589)

This is a panel discussion about creating and editing Avatar’s sound mix, including the score and how it was integrated into the mix. It’s about 47 minutes long and very informative. I recommend it to anyone, regardless of whether they’re an Avatar fan or not because it’s just an interesting topic.

Want to take a wild guess as to what they say about musical elements clashing with sound or dialogue elements?

Sometimes alternates are recorded and neither end up in the film. Jim Cameron’s movies are perfect examples.

That film version of "Climbing up Ikinimaya" was still post-edited in the film anyway.

ONE person who uses a number in his username has said that the album doesn’t contain any score.

One.

That doesn’t come close to "common knowledge for years".

Does that mean that because "Rose" in the film omits the synthesized choir that it’s an entirely separate piece of music than what’s on the album? Hardly. It’s the exact same music from a compositional standpoint. Nothing is different. It’s not longer or shorter. One electronic element was removed. That’s all, and as you said about synth elements, very easy to do.

Unless they’re recorded "live" the way Goldsmith and Poledouris did with the orchestra. Exceptions to every rule.

"Unable To Stay, Unwilling to Leave" omits the uilleann pipes in the film but they’re on the album.

I’m fully capable of listening and paying attention to both the album and the film.

Titanic is a good example of both album version recordings and simple instrumental omissions.

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You’re not wrong 😉

Yup I’m just completely wrong aren’t I? All the time.

There has been FAR more than ONE person state that. I’m sure there are many people here who were under the sand notion that the album didn’t contain any score. I didn’t make it up I heard proof elsewhere. So far more than one.

Again it’s not that hard to do the exact same thing in a different cue. The end of "Super 8 Suite" from Super 8 sounds A LOT like "Letting Go" but it’s not. "Chez Olaf" sounds like almost the same performance as "Stephano" from Lemony Snicket, but it’s not. "Lachrymose Ferry" sounds A LOT like "Take Them Mr. Poe" but it’s still not the same performance.

Compositionally yes it sounds the same. We’re not saying you can’t find any of the t

hemes on the album. We’re saying the film performance is not present. Because it isn’t.

You keep saying PARTS of it were used in the film. Okay. Well it’s still not the version of the cue made for the film. there’s a difference in an Album Track that was used in the film, and the FILM VERSION

There has been FAR more than ONE person state that. I’m sure there are many people here who were under the sand notion that the album didn’t contain any score. I didn’t make it up I heard proof elsewhere. So far more than one.

You keep saying PARTS of it were used in the film. Okay. Well it’s still not the version of the cue made for the film. there’s a difference in an Album Track that was used in the film, and the FILM VERSION

You did notice that when I said "you’re not wrong" I was not referring to you, right?

Did you see that quote I made?

Going by your reply I’m guessing not.

If anything I’m saying WE ARE BOTH RIGHT.

Back up that one person’s claim by listing those who have said the album doesn’t contain any score.

Go ahead. I’m not talking about people who just agreed with Mr.1969 either. He didn’t prove it. You heard proof elsewhere? Okay, was it on a message board like this?

Little hard to call it proof then if they didn’t back it up. Let’s see some non-message board claim as proof. An article with a record exec or something.

That’s all, a little proof.

The difference between you and me is I’m not willing to take what someone says at face value without proving it. I provided some proof about how musical elements are removed editorially by linking that video for you (or anyone) to watch.

Also, I don’t accept things at face value like that when I can just use my ears and listen myself.

Of course I’m saying parts of album versions are in the film, because music is edited all the time. Edited = parts taken out, parts used instead of others. Cameron’s films more than others feature scores that have been literally butchered and cobbled together. Do you really think those edits aren’t edits, but rather re-recordings made to fit film? That’s beyond lunacy. And you say I don’t know these things work…right.
The "film version" of Southampton is edited in the film. Parts of the album version appear later on, edited into the ‘Leaving Port’ and ‘Take Her To Sea’ / end credit sequences.

Have fun with this. I don’t feel like going in circles here. There’s no point. Waste of time.

It could be both though sometimes.

What’s the general consensus: do you think the "Southampton" theme in the film was an alternate take, or an edit of the album version?

The point is fairly moot, but it’s interesting to discuss.

What’s the general consensus: do you think the "Southampton" theme in the film was an alternate take, or an edit of the album version?

The point is fairly moot, but it’s interesting to discuss.

Listen to it and the answer is obvious.

There is absolutely NO debate whatsoever that "Southampton" was entirely different in the film versus the album. None. Zero. I could go on but you get the point.

The film version is a fully developed orchestral cue (though it is edited down a bit for time) while the album is basically a stripped-down, simplified version in typical A-B-A song form. Parts of this album version do appear in the film, just later on: the film version of the "leaving port" sequence has chunks of ‘Southampton’ in the latter half, and of course we all know the ‘King of the world’ / end credit edit.

However that does not apply to every cue. That is one example of an obvious difference.

Nope, and no problem here. 🙂

Even the crappy-quality YouTube rip of the film version is worth having just because of how different (I’d say vastly superior) to the album version of the music. Better than nothing and better than DVD-ripped splicings.

Intime i’m thinking to another way, you know for the dubbing and voiceover, productions sends the master tracks to other country, i’m trying to contact a person that dubbed the italian version of titanic, bcause the clean master is without voice and sfx, all things are in different channels, but i’ts only an idea, i will see what can i do.

Intime i’m thinking to another way, you know for the dubbing and voiceover, productions sends the master tracks to other country, i’m trying to contact a person that dubbed the italian version of titanic, bcause the clean master is without voice and sfx, all things are in different channels, but i’ts only an idea, i will see what can i do.

Very clever idea! Good luck

Intime i’m thinking to another way, you know for the dubbing and voiceover, productions sends the master tracks to other country, i’m trying to contact a person that dubbed the italian version of titanic, bcause the clean master is without voice and sfx, all things are in different channels, but i’ts only an idea, i will see what can i do.
No, dub-tracks are premixed, only the vocals are missing. You can see what this looks like on the isolated music/sfx track on the Chicken Run DVD/Bluray.

Download link (https://mega.co.nz/#!QFF3XBBT!Se6pyRtLwFh8z-cGYBkISxql1zwXVfTiJrcr5ilwCtA).

Download link (https://mega.co.nz/#!QFF3XBBT!Se6pyRtLwFh8z-cGYBkISxql1zwXVfTiJrcr5ilwCtA).

Permission Denied.
""Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch"" by Unspecified can be downloaded from one of these fine retailers.

Alright, changed websites.

Thank

How is it?

It’s full of clipping.

Otherwise it’s seamless.

I made one a while back in 5.1 but I didn’t bother including it with my custom DTS CD.

I didn’t cut it down like you did though, I just replaced the latter half with the end credit edit.

Download link (https://mega.co.nz/#!QFF3XBBT!Se6pyRtLwFh8z-cGYBkISxql1zwXVfTiJrcr5ilwCtA).

Nice!:)

Mind. Overflowing. Must. Stop. Thinking.

(throws on Phantom of the Paradise)

Ok. Mind is blank now… that wasn’t so hard, was it?

Er… sorry. Thanks for the nice posts with the backstory and enthusiasm. As far as these old posts about there being actual master DATs that are just sitting there… how about a picture of them and something else as proof? Just sayin’

I wonder how its going for jeanbaker!

Is this confirmed?

Exactly. Like I said, he’s all talk, trying to sound all high and mighty. He’s not a God like most people here think he is. He only has what he has access to, and I don’t think he has access to it.

But, back to my original comment, I may not like the way things have gone down considering the leaks, accusations about me, or comments I made back. I will be clear. I acted out of hurt, I regret, and apologize for any rude remarks. I say this because while I do not think we should "worship" scorpranos, neither should we demonize him. He has never personally commented to me, so. What I mean I guess is that perhaps we should not remain divisive, and maybe work a little more together? This current climate, while not stopping leaks, may indeed be freezing some out. Ones only someone with access can share. But rifht now, if you share, you get attacked. If you don’t, you get attacked. Something’s gotta give on this. Anyhoo, back to bed with this virus I’ve got. Probably the fever. I shall wake up and get back to offending soon….

But, back to my original comment, I may not like the way things have gone down considering the leaks, accusations about me, or comments I made back. I will be clear. I acted out of hurt, I regret, and apologize for any rude remarks. I say this because while I do not think we should "worship" scorpranos, neither should we demonize him. He has never personally commented to me, so. What I mean I guess is that perhaps we should not remain divisive, and maybe work a little more together? This current climate, while not stopping leaks, may indeed be freezing some out. Ones only someone with access can share. But rifht now, if you share, you get attacked. If you don’t, you get attacked. Something’s gotta give on this. Anyhoo, back to bed with this virus I’ve got. Probably the fever. I shall wake up and get back to offending soon….

Indeed and well if we can work together to get stuff why not? but getting some of these grails is going to be hard. As I said weeks ago, the problem is that this forum doesnt give a shit about petitions ( which are most of the time useless but still ) we made for Harry Potter and more. My idea would be to launch a massive email attack or something like this to Watertower Records and Sony in the case of titanic. But for that we have to set a plan.

Dafuq?
How could you have been told that they are out there if they arent not officially supposed to be.

It’s called having work contacts. Anyway, I’ve removed my comment so as not to harm the ongoing negotiations, which it could have potentially done given this forum is searchable via google.

Definitely not via eBay initially, more via ‘pm’ on here before actually being posted.

But there is a chance that some of us will finally be able to… get our ears on it? Sometime soon? 😀

:colbert:

You have given me hope, sir.

Maybe in the future I will again. Until then, I’ll enjoy said Horner scores Amanda mentioned. That "other" Horner score about a real life event with a sinking boat for example, is something I’ve been enjoying almost nonstop from the moment I got it and that was weeks ago.

There may be no news, but I’ll still be watching the film tonight to "celebrate".

I keep following this thread, despite the lack of news or hope about a complete score or recording sessions of "Titanic". I also "commemorated" in my way the night of 14th to 15th April.

I also made a kind of "check up" with all the tracks and materials we have and, for this, I based upon the tracklist supposed to make an exhaustive summary of the cues (See the following link to consult the tracklist : Filmtracks: Titanic (Complete?) Cue List (http://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/index.cgi?read=39140))

So, I gathered and assembled all the tracks, cues, materials I had (Official tracks, I Salonisti, Jean Baker’s work, some YouTube montages, some DVDrip) and I even tried to make somes montages with my very littles skills on Audacity. Finally, I obtain this tracklist :

(http://thefloodinitiative.ebboard.com/image/98/e/1/6/titanicb-3d90fe4.jpg.htm)

CAPTION :
[O] => Official Sountrack
[JB] => Jean Baker
[YT] => YouTube
[Montage] => Montage of my own
[#] => DVDrip with few or reduced SFX
[##] => DVDrip with many or all SFX
[MM] => Missing Material on this track

There are 64 tracks for 2h26 of music. 1h28 if you don’t count "I Salonisti" cues. 1h16 if you don’t count cues with many SFX. We really can thank Jean Baker because without him, we would not have the best tracks ("Southampton", "Departure", "Take her to sea", "The Sinking", "Trapped in D Deck", "The End", in good quality and nearly film version). Better than nothing, I suppose…

Titanic Original Score ? Inside the Wreck – James Horner – 1997 ? – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icV-Ydb2-d8)

Titanic Original Score ? The Wreck – James Horner – 1997 ? – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vcBxeOHxaU)

If yes, I do have them, but they are not very close to what we really hear in the movie…

The Wreck part souds really great!

gotta love the randomness!

I subscribe to this thread and each new email piques my interest, but I know it’s not going to magically fall in my lap. I’m optimistic though; I feel like one day – eventually – I’ll be able to hear it, or it’ll be licensed and released by Intrada/LLL.

I’d really like to know why. There’s a big opportunity to earn some cash and they don’t do it, is it for some obscure reason I can’t imagine or are they just plain stupid?

They made it plain as day: money. Sony doesnt want to spend the money (the re-use fees involved with any film score recorded with the unionized musicians in Los Angeles) especially for what would be a limited niche market product. That’s why they released that "Anniversary Edition" instead with the same two albums, source music but no additional score. They didn’t have to spend anything on that aside from some so-called remastering.

But as I said, this has been repeated ad nauseam already. It’s all over this thread.

See?

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f2/titanic-music-recording-sessions-discussion-thread-110325/2.html#post1945176

I’m assuming you came from the link I provided in the other thread. If you haven’t come from there, then welcome to the Titanic Music/Recording Sessions Discussion Thread. This thread is for discussing the music of Titanic written by James Horner and all of its dirty secrets until the time comes (and even after that I suppose) when Williamtaylor1969 gets around to receiving approval to release the Recording Sessions for Titanic that he owns. He has stated that he will release these Recording Sessions when he can do said action without compromising his career (hence "receiving approval").

Good luck and lets not totally trash this thread with off topic crap about magical rainbows and ponies (unless it relates to Titanic of course). =)

Here we go everyone… Begin!

Good start! lets get started!!

When LLL showed interest in it (and they would have paid the fees), they said no. So no real reason for me.

Titanic Soundtrack ~ Finale ~ Complete/Extended Film Version – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucrhJNC8p3Q)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6499291/SR5.mp3

As a side note, the footage says it’s from "Making ‘Titanic’", is that a documentary somewhere? I’ve only seen brief clips of the recording sessions, and there isn’t a documentary on the Blu ray or DVD releAses with that footage.

I just wish – in vain – people were less casual about OST and scores in general. To me, it’s the greatest musical genre and it’s the most ignored, despised, unknown, nobody (or almost) cares about it! Sometimes, it even seems that the composers themselves don’t give a shit or don’t realize the genius of what they do (well, that is good news for their modesty!).

Not sure. I’m guessing about 3. There are a lot of suites and unused/alt cues too. Not sure how much time those account for though. Whats your tracklist? Is it a fan edit (one of the many going around) or something else?

I have the same. Mine has Rose Looks For Jack as well as Distraught Rose, Shooting Star, Jack vs. Lovejoy, Never and Absolution (extended deleted scene) and Brock’s Revelation all deleted scenes. Its a lovely 4CD edition. The recreated score is so very well done. Everyone did such a fantastic job editing and recreating. 🙂

https://mega.co.nz/#F!pgRlBazY!IB3SiBDn1osZoDsYD32w9w

PS. PM for more.

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Im going away for a week or so, so I might not respond immediately.

Until then, we wait…

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Theodred, if you ever find sessions to My Girl- James Newton Howard, please let me know. My contact even knows nothing of that one.

How about sharing this with us or did I miss it?

If i get my girl, ill send you a pm cody

I doubt there is an expanded release for The Haunting. Poseidon and Boondock Saints are not rare. I hope you weren’t tricked.

This year, the awarded composer was JAMES HORNER, and the orchestra was conducted by David Newman.

Among the musics from Horner’s work that have been played, there is of course, Titanic, with a 10 minutes Suite that looks like what we can hear on the album "Back to Titanic". I let you hear that by youserlf. Here is the "Titanic" part, as broadcasted by Austrian TV! I uploaded all the concert (even the beautiful moment when Horner receives his Award) on my You Tube channel, and I created a 18 videos playlist just for it! Enjoy 🙂 !

http://youtu.be/QAjLDlNifnc

(I didn’t like the Soprano voice, not as "pure" and "angelic" as Sissel’s voice, but the performance of "Southamton" between 4:20 and 6:10 is just amazing! It was magic! ! So beautiful and moving!)

In the videos, you can see James Horner, in the audience, discretly crying, obviously very touched and moved by the tribute given to him!

If you are curious of interested, here is the official site of the event : Hollywood in Vienna (http://hollywoodinvienna.com/en) (and you can find many videos of last years concert, including Alan Silvestri who conducts the orchestra for Back to the Future Suite! Terrific!)

The extract where Horner receives his award was the second concert. I’ve been to the first concert too, and this day, he did not say exactly the same things. One of the things he said particularly stroke me : he explained that he had not realized how much his music was known and loved and that he was not used to make concerts. He explained that he just makes his job and, at the end of day, he goes home and forget it, does something else! He said that he didn’t know his own work very well, he said "I forget the tracks, the titles, I almost never see to movies I made the music for, I just do my job, do my best, and go home!".

When I hear that, I’m not surprised that the composers are not more eager to defend their work and release it! In face, most of them don’t care, d’ont even imagine that "geeks" like us love their music so much and want complete scores so badly!

Something’s wrong with this video…

I don’t fucking know. No fucking idea who has the fucking balls to fucking share the fucking Titanic sessions if they even fucking have them.

Hope whoever does fucking has them fucking shares them.

Probably the latter 🙁

I happen to know that RolloTomasi claims he has access to them.
So, why stash them away and sit on the stuff for years – while letting everyone know about them?

Just cough it up, please!

That’s my point. What else is there that hasn’t been leaked that is so highly desired? Yet another Zimmer collection of sessions or something?

Seriously, I’d shoot someone in the head for these Titanic sessions.

I happen to know that RolloTomasi claims he has access to them.
So, why stash them away and sit on the stuff for years – while letting everyone know about them?

Just cough it up, please!

These just are never going to surface soon. And LordF does not have them. However, if he did, I would suggest he prove it, by posting just one track from the sessions. Any track, since nearly all of the OST is mixed and orchestrated differently from film versions. So one film version track from the sessions could be all the proof needed. Just to for once back up the claim.

Also, no offense LordF, I notice you do not post shares yourself. Any reason why? I know you are not required to, but most end up doing so eventually so what’s the deal?

As for a previous post, lying isn’t necessarily the only way to get things. There’s plenty of other friendly methods, but this is simply stupid: asking for something the higher-ups don’t even have. Seriously, give it a rest, Fucker. You haven’t a shread of proof to back up all your claims. Can a mood please ban that guy’s IP?

Well, those that MAY really have it cannot post it. Doing so would at the least burn their sources making it nearly impossible to get something like that again. Worst case, they burn someone in real life and cost them their job and/or freedom. And I gotta figure if they got into trouble for this, they’d never be allowed near another score. :/

As far as proof, any cue at all will work. How about the real clean opening tracks?

I dear! I never thought of using THAT line as a pickup line! I always use the "I want to draw you wearing that…wearing ONLY that" line. For some unknown reason it never works. Huh, I will try yours! 🙂

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Really? Which part? 😀

Obscure JFK reference for the..err.well just for. :awsm:

I was speaking of the Sep. 11 2001 dive he made.

But anyway the Dinner Party was getting peckish, so i strolled over to the Burton – Elfman table where they had some snow layed out in lines on the table, some Kish and liquid Sunshine, a much livelier section of the Party indeed. So i asked Burton and Elfman, after some ingesting of some party favorites, what’s the deal with Horner and Cameron? Burton asked to what are you referring? I told them I was just at their table and (read above post #764 for details) and they both burst out with laughter that echoed through the huge room with over 200 guest. I started laughing too since the party favorites had kicked in at this point and I couldn’t help it. Then after three minutes of cackling, which seemed surreal with the costumes (everyone had costumes) Elfman was the Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland and Burton was the Mad Hatter, it was like something, well out of Alice And Wonderland at the Mad Hatters Table, I was "Evil Piglet" from Star Treks "Wolf in the Fold" by the way, so I finally asked what was so funny? they cackled even louder for three more minutes pounding the table and so on. Anyway, Burton finally calmed down enough to explain to me that the story was in fact true about the Session Recordings, but that they knew about it in advance and was able to switch them out with a score that Elfman recorded of the same Titanic material as Horners but different, like a bad school band rendition, and Burton’s voice backward masked in it with messages like "You shouldn’t disturb the dead", "Let it go Cameron", "Ya Movie sucked mate", "Our spirit’s will find You!" and also a rendition of "My Heart Will Go On" but with the lyrics reversed song by Tom Cruise while drunk at some kind of Alien God Beer Festival. By this point the Acid had grabbed our brains like rabies turning an animal into a raving beast and we couldn’t stop laughing for ten more minutes with interruptions from Burton like "What ya think now mate?" and "We’re gonna be so **cking rich!" and "Can you imagine the look on everyone’s face when they retrieve those on live T.V. and play them?" I said everyone will hear you guys from half way around the world laughing your asses off, and they both paused and Burton said "No need for insults mate!" and we laughed our bloody asses off till they kicked us out. I thought it was quite rude. Anyhow they explained that when they got to the Dinner Party they ran into Cameron and Horner, and Elfman blurted "We know what you’re up to Horner! I know what you’ve planned", but that Cameron and Horner didn’t know about the Sessions switch out, but that everyone will in 2021. I would get into the after Party events but it was too ugly for decent people to read here.

I was speaking of the Sep. 11 2001 dive he made.

But anyway the Dinner Party was getting peckish, so i strolled over to the Burton – Elfman table where they had some snow layed out in lines on the table, some Kish and liquid Sunshine, a much livelier section of the Party indeed. So i asked Burton and Elfman, after some ingesting of some party favorites, what’s the deal with Horner and Cameron? Burton asked to what are you referring? I told them I was just at their table and (read above post #764 for details) and they both burst out with laughter that echoed through the huge room with over 200 guest. I started laughing too since the party favorites had kicked in at this point and I couldn’t help it. Then after three minutes of cackling, which seemed surreal with the costumes (everyone had costumes) Elfman was the Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland and Burton was the Mad Hatter, it was like something, well out of Alice And Wonderland at the Mad Hatters Table, I was "Evil Piglet" from Star Treks "Wolf in the Fold" by the way, so I finally asked what was so funny? they cackled even louder for three more minutes pounding the table and so on. Anyway, Burton finally calmed down enough to explain to me that the story was in fact true about the Session Recordings, but that they knew about it in advance and was able to switch them out with a score that Elfman recorded of the same Titanic material as Horners but different, like a bad school band rendition, and Burton’s voice backward masked in it with messages like "You shouldn’t disturb the dead", "Let it go Cameron", "Ya Movie sucked mate", "Our spirit’s will find You!" and also a rendition of "My Heart Will Go On" but with the lyrics reversed song by Tom Cruise while drunk at some kind of Alien God Beer Festival. By this point the Acid had grabbed our brains like rabies turning an animal into a raving beast and we couldn’t stop laughing for ten more minutes with interruptions from Burton like "What ya think now mate?" and "We’re gonna be so **cking rich!" and "Can you imagine the look on everyone’s face when they retrieve those on live T.V. and play them?" I said everyone will hear you guys from half way around the world laughing your asses off, and they both paused and Burton said "No need for insults mate!" and we laughed our bloody asses off till they kicked us out. I thought it was quite rude. Anyhow they explained that when they got to the Dinner Party they ran into Cameron and Horner, and Elfman blurted "We know what you’re up to Horner! I know what you’ve planned", but that Cameron and Horner didn’t know about the Sessions switch out, but that everyone will in 2021. I would get into the after Party events but it was too ugly for decent people to read here.

Oh. Those dives, I thought you were referring to the 1996 (or 95?) dives. Anyhoo. Cool story. Who are you and how did you get invited to such a swanky hollywood costume party?! Sounds SO COOL! I don’t want to believe a word of it, its so hilarious, but so cool! 🙂 I hope we get the sessions soon.

That’s certainly admirable, but I would go ahead and watch the movie. Let’s face it, the music and the movie are both polarizing, and you’re gonna get some people who like one but not the other, and some people who love or hate both. Personally, I’m a fan of both the music and the film. The movie hit me at the right time in my life to really make an impact, and it’s led to an interest in the real ship, where I’ve gotten to socialize with experts in the field (many of whom were extras on "Titanic" and have shared their experiences. One interesting thing was that, to get differing levels of panic through the large crowd scenes, a "panic" level was assigned to extras by their birthdays. If you had a birthday in, say, April, August, and November, then you had a panic level of "4′. May, September, and December would be panic level "5", etc. It’s fascinating all the stuff that went into the making of the movie, being pretty much the last movie where a lot of the larger-scale effects and crowds were done practically and not digitally). The music adds to the emotion of the film, and at a time when I was already interested in movie scores, it was sort of a life-changing movie. Movies rarely change someone’s life, but this was one of them for me. Ignore all the backlash that’s built up over the years and just watch the movie with an open mind, knowing that the sessions are out there and there’s still suitable album versions readily available on the soundtracks. 🙂

That said, to everyone else, feel free to sign my petition if you have not yet done so already: Titanic Score | The Complete Score Petition (http://www.titanicscore.com). If nothing else, perhaps it’ll show to the record companies/whoever does this sort of licensing that demand for this score is quite substantial. I frequent this forum looking for clues about what exists, where it is currently, etc., but I would happily pay a small fortune for the complete score.

https://mega.co.nz/#F!Vo501ZYS!NVgNaj9l8005lOsnQuvBaw

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I think everyone else here ought to take a look. People with the sessions can go fuck themselves. This is a good plate here.

Which was entirely on purpose as Jim Cameron even scored the first footage of the film (Showest Teaser found on the international releases of the DVD but not the Blu-ray) with that track and both Horner and Cameron wanted that Enya sound.

ooh. nice to know. 🙂 I always figured that, but critics remain stubborn 😉

https://mega.co.nz/#!bsQH1BbT!BeP5QzrZmO2M3yg4ItCalUhRvId-a-nK9V4gyHoteBo

https://mega.co.nz/#!HlxUQK4C!RgA8QCsSPp-kw_kY6aVthHKdUGNDoVep2CnQSYfJB-4

And this is the first track i made with the symphonic orchestra, the main theme of the last glow (a sci-fi short film that i’m scoring) comments are welcome! 🙂

https://mega.co.nz/#!SlRECKiK!XsGfQn4_cMNbjWYdOm4kUTcqLlZIE1m5CKn-nAiQTPc

**sigh** Either way, I agree Titanic is not happening anytime soon, if ever. Rumors it was "maybe" in the works are nothing without some sort of proof-ish. Look how long it took for Last Samurai. And, whatever happened to Potter 3? Last i heard that was still unobtainable, yet Scorpranos himself has just posted an item. This trading circle thing gets murkier as time goes on…

Now as for Scorepranos’ source, when and if they decide to leak it would be entirely up to them. I can’t say for sure whether Scorepranos would post it even if he had it but I don’t see why he wouldn’t considering it’s in such high demand. It’d make so many people happy and it’d put all these endless Titanic threads to rest. Then would come the 50 different posts of all the different editions that fans and such have made. It’ll be like wildfire across the forum. Once it hits, I’d much rather it be over personally because it’s gonna excite a lot of people for days, maybe even weeks and months and like with every other popular score, it’s just gonna get run into the ground. Perhaps I’m just being a bit too pessimistic haha.

The British Prime Minister is involved…..! Interesting… Very Interesting!

So someone should split the cable to the mixer and plug a recorder in 😉

I second that :O

I’m curious as to whether Sissel will be present to do the vocals, and if Celine Dion makes a cameo at the end for My Heart Will Go On. Maybe I’m being hopelessly idealistic there. I’m also curious how they’ll handle some of the more obvious crossfades in the film…but of course, I trust the maestro.

Titanic Live – Royal Albert Hall (http://www.royalalberthall.com/tickets/titanic-live/default.aspx)

I think of myself as an amateur Intrada / La-La Land album assembler, taking the raw materials of a score like "Avatar" or "The Perfect Storm" and turning them into a cohesive album. I’ve often tried to mimic LLL’s album style, but without the awkward and ill-timed crossfades they do. I do crossfade but LLL just does it so poorly. Listen to "Independence Day", "Jade" or "Patriot Games" from them and you’ll hear what I mean.

I’d imagine "Titanic" is probably like "Avatar" in terms of the raw material type, but I could be easily wrong about that. "Apollo 13" was a complete score that was album-ready from the start with no need to do anything editorially unless you weren’t fond of the rather extreme dynamic range of the music. The short ‘Manual Burn’ prelude (provided by Sinus in his custom) was small enough to not do any damage to the score if it weren’t included but was good to have nonetheless.

For "Avatar", making all those fan edits achieved two things: A comprehensive study of the music, and a dedicated effort to restore inserts and pickups that would make several cues truly complete. Both of which proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the people who download these things from members like Scoreman, Scorepranos, Into The Storm, that now infamous kgray (who disappeared as soon as he appeared with an insane leaking spree) are not downloading these scores just to say "I have that" and collect them for the sake of collecting them, but because we truly, completely, utterly, LOVE, TREASURE, ENJOY, and APPRECIATE this music in whatever form we can.

I gave up any shred of hope for "Titanic" long ago. If it ever surfaces it’ll be one hell of a pleasant surprise and a complete joy to make it into an album….though if it were album-friendly (like "Apollo 13" was) without any need it would be even better.

As an "insane" Horner nut (like tangotreats once considered me to be in the "Battle Beyond The Stars" thread for my supposed blindness and ignorance to Horner being a ‘thief’, plagiarist, all-around asshole no one likes personally) I’ve gotten to experience almost all of my most treasured Horner scores in complete form thanks to people here. Will "Titanic" be among them? Probably not…it’d be nice though.

I’d argue that "Inception" was an even more desired score than "Titanic" and it happened. The key difference is the money involved with the record label’s ownership and its refusal to license it to any smaller soundtrack labels based on re-use fees and royalties. Horner himself made a lot of money on the sales of the album, something most composers don’t make beyond their ‘album produced by’ credit on the cover. I’ve never once bought into the idea of it being a forbidden fruit kind of thing, where the entire internet would shut down if it leaked. I’m just betting that it’s more that it’s something very highly sought out, something few people have and it could be traced. Hell if I had it and leaked it, I’m fairly obscure and move around a lot. I don’t think anyone from Sony Music or the two movie studios Fox and Paramount would track me down. Even the internet I use changes often.

If that concert were to ever happen locally, I’d be there. I’m betting it’s only going to happen in the UK and US though. I’m in Canada where almost nothing like that happens here and I’m too Dirt McGirt Poor to afford to travel.

"Titanic" is not the only Horner score that was denied an expanded release.

La-La Land Records asked about releasing an expanded Titanic and were turned down, that’s old news. However they also revealed months ago on the FSM board that they had plans to release an expanded score for "Sneakers" in 2012 (which was the 20th anniversary of the film’s release) and Universal turned LLL down with NO reason given. They said not only were they disappointed in that decision, but Sony Music (which released the OST through its Columbia Records sidelabel) was also disappointed.

Intrada got inquiries about the early Horner score for "The Hand", but Horner himself along with the studio were against it.

I’m curious as to whether Sissel will be present to do the vocals, and if Celine Dion makes a cameo at the end for My Heart Will Go On. Maybe I’m being hopelessly idealistic there. I’m also curious how they’ll handle some of the more obvious crossfades in the film…but of course, I trust the maestro.

From now, I have my place for April 2015 & the Titanic Live !!! Can’t wait to hear it…. 😉

I’m posting here since I’m desperatly searching a track link to the Titanic music.
Hope you will be able to help me.

I’ve tried all versions of the titanic complete score but I never found what I’m looking for.
I’m searching the track southampton BUT THE FILM VERSION (I’m sure a lot of you have had the same issue). The film version differs from the official ost one mostly in the begining, before the famous choir, there is another part in the film version.
All I found in the various complete score are tracks with sfx or edits. I’m searching for a clean one, hopefully coming from recording sessions.

I imagine that if it’s so difficult to find it’s simply because it’s not available.

But just in case, if someone knows more about this…

Thanks a lot in advance for your help and infos.

I’m posting here since I’m desperatly searching a track link to the Titanic music.
Hope you will be able to help me.

I’ve tried all versions of the titanic complete score but I never found what I’m looking for.
I’m searching the track southampton BUT THE FILM VERSION (I’m sure a lot of you have had the same issue). The film version differs from the official ost one mostly in the begining, before the famous choir, there is another part in the film version.
All I found in the various complete score are tracks with sfx or edits. I’m searching for a clean one, hopefully coming from recording sessions.

I imagine that if it’s so difficult to find it’s simply because it’s not available.

But just in case, if someone knows more about this…

Thanks a lot in advance for your help and infos.

It does not exist in film form. The OST is all there is, aside from rips or fan recreations. There is nothing else.

Yes, the rip I took from that YouTube video in mono (and I added reverb to make it a light, fake stereo), and jeanbaker’s combination of that YT rip, film rip and his own music software.

Believe me, it’s my "holy grail" unreleased cue from TITANIC along with the film version of ‘Leaving Port’.

My…tone is a little off mark, these days, want to be sure you guys know that.

I will not wade in and say I love you guys.

Because I most certainly don’t.

But I find I can mostly tolerate you…….*most of you**

:awsm: :awsm:

Believe me, it’s my "holy grail" unreleased cue from TITANIC along with the film version of ‘Leaving Port’.

The film version of Leaving Port? Do you have that? :O

Titanic
https://mega.co.nz/#F!hkR1TJJB!ee6A0V9tjj4PXuVMGvEmKg
https://mega.co.nz/#F!5hoRQLoB!bgw_ODIVOWQC7vjMWyXE5w

Wish I did, but nope.

Last night I completed part 1 of "Titanic: Extended Edition" using the Blu-ray, restoring all the deleted scenes to the film (and tweaking the sound mix in one sequence). I’m going to work on part 2 today. It was literally years in the making since I had done this several times before since 2005 when the collector’s edition DVD came out….took me several attempts, re-edits, and total starts from scratch over a period of 6 years off and on to get it right. I’d notice a glitch here, a bad edit there, that sort of thing.

My HD version so far has come out exactly as I wanted to.

Last night I completed part 1 of "Titanic: Extended Edition" using the Blu-ray, restoring all the deleted scenes to the film (and tweaking the sound mix in one sequence). I’m going to work on part 2 today. It was literally years in the making since I had done this several times before since 2005 when the collector’s edition DVD came out….took me several attempts, re-edits, and total starts from scratch over a period of 6 years off and on to get it right. I’d notice a glitch here, a bad edit there, that sort of thing.

My HD version so far has come out exactly as I wanted to.

Ooh. Will you post?? 🙂

My finished part 1 is an m2ts file with a size of 21.3 GB.

I didn’t say I would post a link to a torrent here, but I can certainly tell people about it if there’s interest.

sorry.

If I decide to upload the film (which I’ve just completed), and that’s a BIG "IF", I will share the information about it.

sorry.

Meh, come on no worries. 🙂

Last night I completed part 1 of "Titanic: Extended Edition" using the Blu-ray, restoring all the deleted scenes to the film (and tweaking the sound mix in one sequence). I’m going to work on part 2 today. It was literally years in the making since I had done this several times before since 2005 when the collector’s edition DVD came out….took me several attempts, re-edits, and total starts from scratch over a period of 6 years off and on to get it right. I’d notice a glitch here, a bad edit there, that sort of thing.

My HD version so far has come out exactly as I wanted to.

Oh I attempted that too, but only with the sound. I’m not skilled enough to do it with the video. But even with the sound I admit some bits were tricky. Some scenes you had to make a guess as to where they would fit properly.
Looking forward to see your result.

Most of the deleted scenes were bookended with scenes from the final film to lead-in and lead-out of the deleted parts, which made it easy. Only one or two instances (in the second half of the film) it became necessary to keep track of continuity because some of the re-assembled deleted scenes were slightly out of order with the final film. The hardest part wasn’t putting the scenes back, it was actually having to crossfade certain parts which couldn’t be just a simple hard cut from one to another like the majority of the scenes. I had to use hard cuts for much of the audio for the crossfaded scenes, but it wasn’t as distracting as I thought it would be.

The reason it took me so many tries in the past when I used the DVD, was because the video editor programs I tried often caused glitches like repeated frames in between cut shots and audio synchronization problems. I’d fix one error only to discover another, or fix one which caused another. For this HD version I did it just the once and it came out exactly as I wanted, no errors at all the first and only time.

For the sound mix, I was originally going to use lossless and upconvert the deleted scene audio to DTS-HD to match the film, but I found the quality of the audio was just fine, and opted for a Dolby mix at a maximum bitrate of 640kbps to match the deleted scene audio. The other reason for this was space, as a DTS-HD track would’ve been far too big for burning the film to single-layer BD-R. Since I converted the film’s audio from the DTS-HD track, the quality was great all around. I made some changes musically to the levels of the ‘Southampton’ , ‘leaving port’ and ‘Ode to Titanic’ sequences, boosting the sound of the synthesized chorus for the front and rear channels, and used the end credit edit of the film and replaced parts of the audio for the ‘Ode’ sequence, so sound effects and dialogue are in the center, but music only fills the front and rear stereo / surround channels for only that sequence that uses the music in the end credit edit (after the song). It’s a preferential thing and I was happy with the result, since the sound effects are just loud bursts of water for most of it, still dominating the mix through the center channel anyway.

The other change I made to the sound mix was the end credits: "My Heart Will Go On" does not play at all. I opted for different music instead, which I upmixed to 5.1 since I used an edit of the "Titanic Suite" from the ‘Back To Titanic’ album. When I first made it I was going to use either "Hymn to the Sea" or "An Ocean of Memories" in 5.1 (from the DTS-CD at the time) but I found the Suite a better choice because it was a straight recap of themes and made for an excellent end credit piece.

I don’t know if I will post it simply because of its size: roughly 40 GB total because each half of the film is around 20 GB in size. I’ve never uploaded anything of that size at all, since it’s a continuous thing and I don’t even know how to upload a torrent anyway. A MEGA method might work, if I split the film into many, many, many many (and many more) chunks, I guess. Might make it easier, I don’t know.

The reason it took me so many tries in the past when I used the DVD, was because the video editor programs I tried often caused glitches like repeated frames in between cut shots and audio synchronization problems. I’d fix one error only to discover another, or fix one which caused another. For this HD version I did it just the once and it came out exactly as I wanted, no errors at all the first and only time.

For the sound mix, I was originally going to use lossless and upconvert the deleted scene audio to DTS-HD to match the film, but I found the quality of the audio was just fine, and opted for a Dolby mix at a maximum bitrate of 640kbps to match the deleted scene audio. The other reason for this was space, as a DTS-HD track would’ve been far too big for burning the film to single-layer BD-R. Since I converted the film’s audio from the DTS-HD track, the quality was great all around. I made some changes musically to the levels of the ‘Southampton’ , ‘leaving port’ and ‘Ode to Titanic’ sequences, boosting the sound of the synthesized chorus for the front and rear channels, and used the end credit edit of the film and replaced parts of the audio for the ‘Ode’ sequence, so sound effects and dialogue are in the center, but music only fills the front and rear stereo / surround channels for only that sequence that uses the music in the end credit edit (after the song). It’s a preferential thing and I was happy with the result, since the sound effects are just loud bursts of water for most of it, still dominating the mix through the center channel anyway.

The other change I made to the sound mix was the end credits: "My Heart Will Go On" does not play at all. I opted for different music instead, which I upmixed to 5.1 since I used an edit of the "Titanic Suite" from the ‘Back To Titanic’ album. When I first made it I was going to use either "Hymn to the Sea" or "An Ocean of Memories" in 5.1 (from the DTS-CD at the time) but I found the Suite a better choice because it was a straight recap of themes and made for an excellent end credit piece.

I don’t know if I will post it simply because of its size: roughly 40 GB total because each half of the film is around 20 GB in size. I’ve never uploaded anything of that size at all, since it’s a continuous thing and I don’t even know how to upload a torrent anyway. A MEGA method might work, if I split the film into many, many, many many (and many more) chunks, I guess. Might make it easier, I don’t know.

Best way would be converting the raw .M2TS file to a 4-6 GB MP4 or MKV file. That’s the best option you can get quality/size for watching it on PC or TV.
I myself, sometimes, convert some Blu-Ray’s to watch on my iPad when i’m out overseas for work, and they look Amazing. Though, they usually are of 1.4/2GB each file.
By the way, there was already an "Extended Edition" called The White Star Line, which floated on the net for some time, 2 years ago, and which consisted of 3 DVD’s. Two with the original movie and deleted scenes integrated, and one with the alternate ending. I was lucky enough to get ahold of it, and it was Amazing seeing the movie with the deleted scenes integrated. Made the movie more enjoyable.
I wonder why for this Blu-Ray release they didn’t made a disc for the movie with all deleted scenes integrated. It could had been a very beautiful package: 2 Blu’s for 3D version, 1 for the original 2D version, and another 1 for the movie with all deleted scenes integrated, and a bonus disc for extras. Also, it would had been great to have more audio options as well. Like what they did for the 2005 Special Collector’s Edition, which had two 6.1 surround mixes.
They could had transcode the SDDS 8-channel mix, and deliver it as a DTS-HD 7.1. I still remember that mix…..very enveloping, during the first half of the movie, and very punchy during the sinking. Awesome mix

That "White Star" edition was also a fan edit, yes. I never bothered with it because I had already made my own.

I’ve had mixed results compressing Blu-rays to smaller files, but it’s something I’d consider.

I’ve had mixed results compressing Blu-rays to smaller files, but it’s something I’d consider.

Handbrake works great for me, but there also many other good encoders out there.
If I have to edit a video project, I usually use Sony Vegas, output as a "Sony AVCHD" file, then import the file on MKVMerge. And from there, I convert it with Handbrake, shrinking the output file size.
Btw, what version did you used for this project?? The 3D open-matte version, or the standard 2D?? I find that the open-matte 3D Blu-Ray has more video bitrate, even when watching it in 2D via PowerDVD, and when I made an iPad version from it, even if it roughly was 2-3 GB, it looked great. Same with the Bond 50 Blu-Ray collection.
My opinion is that the more bitrate has a Blu-Ray disc, the more likely the conversion will be of great quality.

I’ve tried Sony Vegas but for editing I find it overly complicated so I don’t bother with it anymore.

In the end I made two versions of the "extended edition": When I was finished with the entire film, I went back and re-edited it using the 3D open matte version, creating a hybrid like "The Dark Knight" and "The Dark Knight Rises" shifting aspect ratio presentations. At first I thought it was going to be as easy as cherry-picking certain sequences and dropping in the open-matte scenes, but not so. Their runtimes were slightly different so every time I did that, I found gaps in between frames and had to do minor trims for every scene, with both video and audio to make everything sync. It was kind of a nightmare.

I have a 7.1 AV receiver and don’t have room for a 6.1 setup, so changing the mix would not of made a difference for my listening. I’ve always had my 5.1 rears plugged into the 7.1 surround back ports because certain Blu-rays in 7.1 direct more of their rear audio to the surround back channels and not the 5.1.

My new 7.78 GB copy of the film is just for uploading in case anyone wants to see it, so I’ll split it up as a zip and put it on MEGA or something.

I have a full on 7.1 system set up and really 6.1 is just the back channels with cross bleed on into the center channel as one for Back Center, even though the DTS Encoder can do 5.1 as 6.1.

2D Final Cut Color Timing

2D Deleted Scene Color Timing

For those curious, here is the difference between the 2D and 3D copies.


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I have a 7.1 AV receiver and don’t have room for a 6.1 setup, so changing the mix would not of made a difference for my listening. I’ve always had my 5.1 rears plugged into the 7.1 surround back ports because certain Blu-rays in 7.1 direct more of their rear audio to the surround back channels and not the 5.1.

My new 7.78 GB copy of the film is just for uploading in case anyone wants to see it, so I’ll split it up as a zip and put it on MEGA or something.

Indeed DTS-HD and Dolby are just delivery formats. Always better to work in PCM, make the necessary audio adjustments there, and then convert to AC3 or DTS.
How many days it took you to do it all?? Did it came out well when converting it??
I’m too eager to make something like this with my Blu-Ray. Though I need to find my DVD copy of the White Star Extended Edition first, and then run a timeline with 2 videos, to see which frame/scene correspond to which.
That way would be much easier to work with, hopefully.

I have a 7.1 AV receiver and don’t have room for a 6.1 setup, so changing the mix would not of made a difference for my listening. I’ve always had my 5.1 rears plugged into the 7.1 surround back ports because certain Blu-rays in 7.1 direct more of their rear audio to the surround back channels and not the 5.1.

My new 7.78 GB copy of the film is just for uploading in case anyone wants to see it, so I’ll split it up as a zip and put it on MEGA or something.

Indeed DTS-HD and Dolby are just delivery formats. Always better to work in PCM, make the necessary audio adjustments there, and then convert to AC3 or DTS.
How many days it took you to do it all?? Did it came out well when converting it??
I’m too eager to make something like this with my Blu-Ray. Though I need to find my DVD copy of the White Star Extended Edition first, and then run a timeline with 2 videos, to see which frame/scene correspond to which.
That way would be much easier to work with, hopefully.

This is gonna be a very fantastic work.
I’ve been following this thread for so long now, and I enjoyed every single work you guys put out here, from music work to this one.
Is there a possibility for anyone who has done this editing work, to share it with the community??

Awesome!

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Indeed DTS-HD and Dolby are just delivery formats. Always better to work in PCM, make the necessary audio adjustments there, and then convert to AC3 or DTS.
How many days it took you to do it all?? Did it came out well when converting it??
I’m too eager to make something like this with my Blu-Ray. Though I need to find my DVD copy of the White Star Extended Edition first, and then run a timeline with 2 videos, to see which frame/scene correspond to which.
That way would be much easier to work with, hopefully.

I have heard of the "White Star Extended Edition" and even used the cover art for it when making one of my adjusted edits and printed art for a DVD case, but never actually saw it because I made my own before that one appeared online on the fanedit sites.

It took me about three days total, but I went over it a couple of times to make sure. The audio is what took longest because I was making separate audio segments for the transitions I had which wouldn’t work as hard cuts. It was necessary to do that to avoid quality loss.

The program I used accepts Dolby 5.1 audio which can be cut without any re-encoding. If I used DTS or any other format the film would’ve taken a ridiculous amount of time because I required the audio to be synchronized as I went along, and doing a few A/B comparisons I found NO issues whatsoever with making Dolby 5.1 (at 640 kbps) my primary audio track.

I used the DTS-HD as a basis for my Dolby track, converted to PCM for editing my transitional segments when I had to blend them with the deleted scene audio which was Dolby Digital converted to PCM. That all allowed me to drop in the audio without re-encoding anything beyond my initial conversion from DTS / Dolby transition segments to PCM and back to Dolby 640 kbps, and my DTS-HD-to-Dolby 640 track for the remainder of the film.

My end credit music was originally a WAV file, then I created a 5.1 track out of it, converted to Dolby 640.

I changed the audio mix for one scene, mainly because I wanted it to showcase the music more than the sound of waves breaking. I took out most of the sound effects to do it, and it was a personal preference.

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I have heard of the "White Star Extended Edition" and even used the cover art for it when making one of my adjusted edits and printed art for a DVD case, but never actually saw it because I made my own before that one appeared online on the fanedit sites.

It took me about three days total, but I went over it a couple of times to make sure. The audio is what took longest because I was making separate audio segments for the transitions I had which wouldn’t work as hard cuts. It was necessary to do that to avoid quality loss.

The program I used accepts Dolby 5.1 audio which can be cut without any re-encoding. If I used DTS or any other format the film would’ve taken a ridiculous amount of time because I required the audio to be synchronized as I went along, and doing a few A/B comparisons I found NO issues whatsoever with making Dolby 5.1 (at 640 kbps) my primary audio track.

I used the DTS-HD as a basis for my Dolby track, converted to PCM for editing my transitional segments when I had to blend them with the deleted scene audio which was Dolby Digital converted to PCM. That all allowed me to drop in the audio without re-encoding anything beyond my initial conversion from DTS / Dolby transition segments to PCM and back to Dolby 640 kbps, and my DTS-HD-to-Dolby 640 track for the remainder of the film.

My end credit music was originally a WAV file, then I created a 5.1 track out of it, converted to Dolby 640.

I changed the audio mix for one scene, mainly because I wanted it to showcase the music more than the sound of waves breaking. I took out most of the sound effects to do it, and it was a personal preference.

That was indeed a very tough job.
I too faced some complications when I was making my own Extended version of "HANNIBAL" 3 years ago, as that film contains many fast-action scenes, right from the beginning. In fact, it took me almost a month to combine both the audio and the video of the different deleted scenes to that of the original ones. Quite a stressful task at the time, considering I was also editing it on a laptop, and not on a big screen/faster computer. But it turned out great anyway.
Now i’m looking forward to make my own BD of Titanic with the incorporated deleted scenes, and make some changes here and there too. But I will be watching your version, as I already enjoyed your own take on the DTS 5.1 Soundtrack, which was fantastic.
Btw, I’m curious as to what music you used for that particular scene you described, and also for the end credits. I read that you used the "Titanic Suite" by Horner for the end credits. How it turned out to be??

My computer is a laptop, but it’s one of those "desktop replacement" types that can handle tougher jobs.

I didn’t change any scenes around or remove any scenes to my preference, just some audio mix changes….it wasn’t like the thousands of "Star Wars" fan edits out there where people completely customize the movie by changing every single scene and shuffle things around. It’s just "TITANIC" as complete as it can be with all deleted scenes and alternate ending restore to the film.

As for the audio changes such as the one sequence and the end credits, you’ll have to watch the film to find out. 😉

Part three of the 7Zip split file is uploading as I type this.

Original theatrical cut runtime: 3 hours, 14 minutes.

My Extended cut runtime: 3 hours, 48 minutes.

Includes all deleted scenes and (questionable) alternate ending re-integrated in the final film.

Audio track has minor level adjustments for one sequence, a full remix in another to highlight the music, and the end credit song "My Heart Will Go On" has been replaced.

File format: mp4 720p downscaled from source 1080p (downscaled for uploading at a reasonable size), black borders cropped.

Cropped video resolution: 1280×544, 4.3Mbps

Audio format: AAC 5.1 surround, 48kHz, 576Kbps

Total file size: 7.78 GB

Do NOT send me any PMs for the link, just make the request for the links here.

I’ve already sent the links to the following people:

gringrinnyghost
jedisaurus
leo54
lim2403
theodred27
paulluss22
Recording
jztzt
Mr Gold
JackxAngelica
Condi
anakinbetrayal
xasvi
defeater

Could I please have the link? thanks!

I would create a thread for it separately, but since it’s not a music download or an anime download, I can’t really think of anywhere here to place it aside from this thread:

Original theatrical cut runtime: 3 hours, 14 minutes.

My Extended cut runtime: 3 hours, 48 minutes.

Includes all deleted scenes and (questionable) alternate ending re-integrated in the final film.

Audio track has minor level adjustments for one sequence, a full remix in another to highlight the music, and the end credit song "My Heart Will Go On" has been replaced.

File format: mp4 720p downscaled from source 1080p (downscaled for uploading at a reasonable size), black borders cropped.

Cropped video resolution: 1280×544, 4.3Mbps

Audio format: AAC 5.1 surround, 48kHz, 576Kbps

Total file size: 7.78 GB

Do NOT send me any PMs for the link, just make the request for the links here.

I’ve already sent the links to the following people:

gringrinnyghost
jedisaurus
leo54
lim2403
theodred27
paulluss22
Recording
jztzt

That’s the dream of pretty much everyone on this thread…or at least me. All the past drama aside, it’s still a beautiful score. Arguably not Horner’s best work, but almost certainly his most iconic.

9 CDs? There’s only about an hour and 40 minutes of score in the film (including the credits, repeated cues, and "Nearer, My God, To Thee", not including all the other music by the ship’s band). There must be a lot of alternate cues and arrangements and unused music if that rumour is true.

I wouldn’t be surprised, though. The initial cut shown to Horner was 36 hours long, and it took him three days to watch it. If you think of all the initial/unused themes, alternate takes, etc., you’re bound to end up with a sizable amount of material, especially for a film of this length and scope.

This is when Rose is in the water – "there’s a boat, Jack" – just before Jack’s death music plays. The part used in the film is ~1:25 – 1:45. If I remember correctly this was originally used as a temp track but it was kept in the final cut. In the film, this is mixed in with a little bit of help from Horner, but the eerie choir is still prominent.

Michael Stearns – Encounter
The Beacon: Those Who Have Gone Before
Download (https://mega.co.nz/#!U41yWbyB!uxTUOPtw2GKYVaBjYsQJS9jnKJXNdsPLWsWXc8a fCqQ)

Source:
http://www.michaelstearns.com/past_bio.html

Scott

A) It’s Sony who needs to license the score, not necessarily release it. All record companies I’ve talked to have expressed interest in doing an expanded release, particularly for the 2012 re-release. While Sony is unwilling to license the score at the moment (at last check in 2013), they are still licensing scores out. LLR just announced an expanded version of The Passion of the Christ. Titanic was a much bigger money-earner than that, so it seems like Titanic may eventually get the deluxe treatment.

B) I find it difficult to believe that only one person had/has the recording sessions. From what I’ve heard, based on rumors and conversations, several people have (or had) them, and they were shared between those users (though I will not name names). Even before that, there were rumors of a complete score floating around amongst high-level collectors and even on eBay right after the movie’s release. I cannot speak to the veracity of this claim but given a high-profile blockbuster like Titanic I think it’s plausible.

I think the only place an expanded score won’t appear – at least not in the foreseeable future – is this particular forum. Titanic is "risky" to share and it will remain so due to the drama which has gone on about it – ironically, the drama was caused *because* it is such a desired score – as well as the demand. Of course, I speak as an eternal optimist – and I’m arguably biased based on my love of the ship/movie/score/Horner. In the meantime, I run my little petition and hope that one day I’ll be able to hear the film versions of these songs. I figure if enough interest is generated, a limited release can be accomplished.

I’ve asked a couple of questions but never got an answer, such as is it possible to see some of the sheet music with handwritten messages / notes in a higher resolution.

Also I recall something was being worked on involving some sort of 3D project.

I’m fully aware of two people who claim to have the sessions. One I never believed (who is likely the person banned) and the other I wholeheartedly believe.

I’m sure you do…

I have Judgement Day. Top that.

I can top that! I’ve got Batman V Superman!

Doesn’t even compare. Nothing can hold a candle to T2 :p

You haven’t gotten anything with MoS. Lol.

LOL

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Back on topic: I’ve signed the petition. What else is there to do? Happy?

xasvi and anakinbetrayal have PMs.

No, that does not mean they have PMS. Get yer minds out of the gutter. Jeez…

I have an idea:

I’ll camp in front of the Sony building headsquarters, and tell them that I will burn myself if they don’t give me all the Titanic music.

And in case they won’t comply, then I’ll burn myself.

Thanks, signed and shared on Fbook!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgktKAo7Myg

The biggest difference between the two is the lack of synth choir in the film version which is indeed better than the album, mainly because the choir drowns out the lovely harp and piano lines.

I have an idea:

I’ll camp in front of the Sony building headsquarters, and tell them that I will burn myself if they don’t give me all the Titanic music.

And in case they won’t comply, then I’ll burn myself.

You can burn yourself anyway, regardless if they give you shit :awsm:

I’ve never seen nor heard of one. Doesn’t mean there isn’t one, but it’s unlikely.

So who was at the premiere last night? What did you think of it?

What premiere? What did I miss out on?

http://www.titanic-live.com

I was there last night, it was incredible. Even James Cameron stopped by to wave at the end. The souvenir booklet contains some cue titles that I’ll be researching further. The film they screened was a special cut with the music removed and the orchestra would play the music live in sync to the movie. They used the film versions of cues (like Southampton) but it was all re-orchestrated from the original manuscripts and transcribed digitally (so if you know some insiders, this may be something to look into). There were also a few additional bits of music to serve as segues into and out of the intermission ("I believe you may get your headlines, Mr. Ismay"). Sissel provided the vocals and looked/sounded gorgeous, and sang My Heart Will Go On at the end.

I can’t recommend it enough. If you have the resources and time, I strongly suggest you go. It’s gorgeous and a celebration of the film and Horner’s magnificent contribution. I was really touched when during the Q&A, Horner was asked how he felt about Titanic Live. He said he emotionally detaches from scores after writing them, so this was the first time he was "revisiting an old friend". I liked his modesty and humility, and he totally deserved the standing ovation he received at the end, as did all the musicians and people who put this together.

http://www.titanic-live.com

I was there last night, it was incredible. Even James Cameron stopped by to wave at the end. The souvenir booklet contains some cue titles that I’ll be researching further. The film they screened was a special cut with the music removed and the orchestra would play the music live in sync to the movie. They used the film versions of cues (like Southampton) but it was all re-orchestrated from the original manuscripts and transcribed digitally (so if you know some insiders, this may be something to look into). There were also a few additional bits of music to serve as segues into and out of the intermission ("I believe you may get your headlines, Mr. Ismay"). Sissel provided the vocals and looked/sounded gorgeous, and sang My Heart Will Go On at the end.

I can’t recommend it enough. If you have the resources and time, I strongly suggest you go. It’s gorgeous and a celebration of the film and Horner’s magnificent contribution. I was really touched when during the Q&A, Horner was asked how he felt about Titanic Live. He said he emotionally detaches from scores after writing them, so this was the first time he was "revisiting an old friend". I liked his modesty and humility, and he totally deserved the standing ovation he received at the end, as did all the musicians and people who put this together.

I’m attending next June. I had reservations because it’s the first time I’m going to experience something like that but you seemed very pleased about it so I guess I can get my hopes up.

This has gone on before Interstellar. It happened with E.T. years ago, it’s happened with Star Trek 2009, and Titanic did not actually premiere at Royal Albert Hall, but rather in Lucerne, Switzerland back on March 13. It’s basically going on tour, but I’ll certainly not be able to see it.

They don’t. The list of hacked files only had the CD release.

What challenges did you face when preparing Titanic LIVE for performance?

The original scores were in manuscript form, so the first step that had to be undertaken was to enter everything that James [Horner] had composed into the computer. All of those new computer scores had to be proofread and compared with the sequences that were actually recorded. This was a huge task because the underscore in the film totals nearly two hours of music. I had to assemble and manage a team to accomplish the task. Once we had the scores in a medium where we could edit them, we had to listen to the music as it was finally used in the film, and note how it differed from the written and recorded scores. There were many differences because James Cameron, with the director’s prerogative, had moved sequences around and combined bits and pieces from different sequences to achieve his own vision for the film. My team had to follow that trail. It was like being a detective working on a case. I think James’s vision for the score was realised, but there were a lot of adjustments that had to be made along the way in order to bring the original scores into conformity with the music as it’s ultimately heard in the soundtrack. After all of this work, individual parts for the instruments of the orchestra had to be extracted, and a special copy of the film and scores prepared for the conductor, but another department handled those tasks.

If those score files ended up being "released" like Avatar, I would be a very, very happy person.

Let us know if you have any luck!

01 – 2 ??? Miles Down
02 – To the Keldysh
03 – Rose Revealed
04 – Distant Memories
05 – My Drawing
06 – Vanity Hand Mirror
07 – Southampton
08 – A Lucky Hand
09 – Leaving Port
10 – Take Her to Sea, Mr. Murdoch!
11 – First Sighting
12 – Rose’s Suicide
13 – Jack Saves Rose
14 – Gift of A Necklace
15 – Promenade
16 – Dining Room Sequence
17 – The Blarney Pilgrim
18 – John Ryan’s Polka
19 – Kesh Jig
20 – Drowsy Maggie
21 – Vision of Salome
22 – Rose
23 – Butterfly Comb
24 – The Portrait
25 – Lovejoy Chase
26 – Lovemaking
27 – Rose
28 – Hard to Starboard
29 – A Mathematical Certainy
30 – 2,200 Souls
31 – Trapped On ‘D’ Deck
32 – A Building Panic
33 – Two & A Half Mile Down
34 – Rose Looks for Jack
35 – Rose Frees Jack
36 – A Building Panic
37 – "Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave"
38 – Trapped On ‘D’ Deck
39 – Nearer, My God, To Thee
40 – The Sinking
41 – Death of Titanic
42 – A Promise Kept
43 – Never An Absolution
44 – End Credits

The Cue Titles from the TITANIC-LIVE Event:

01 – 2 ??? Miles Down
02 – To the Keldysh
03 – Rose Revealed
04 – Distant Memories
05 – My Drawing
06 – Vanity Hand Mirror
07 – Southampton
08 – A Lucky Hand
09 – Leaving Port
10 – Take Her to Sea, Mr. Murdoch!
11 – First Sighting
12 – Rose’s Suicide
13 – Jack Saves Rose
14 – Gift of A Necklace
15 – Promenade
16 – Dining Room Sequence
17 – The Blarney Pilgrim
18 – John Ryan’s Polka
19 – Kesh Jig
20 – Drowsy Maggie
21 – Vision of Salome
22 – Rose
23 – Butterfly Comb
24 – The Portrait
25 – Lovejoy Chase
26 – Lovemaking
27 – Rose
28 – Hard to Starboard
29 – A Mathematical Certainy
30 – 2,200 Souls
31 – Trapped On ‘D’ Deck
32 – A Building Panic
33 – Two & A Half Mile Down
34 – Rose Looks for Jack
35 – Rose Frees Jack
36 – A Building Panic
37 – "Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave"
38 – Trapped On ‘D’ Deck
39 – Nearer, My God, To Thee
40 – The Sinking
41 – Death of Titanic
42 – A Promise Kept
43 – Never An Absolution
44 – End Credits

Is that score/OST floating about?
I believe so! Thread 132352
Not sure if the link works though.

can anyone point me in the right direction to all back to titanic score?

Try this! Thread 185367

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Ho, boy, I wish those were available too, jedi!

Thank you my friend. Sadly the link is dead.
If I buy bite the bullet, I’ll buy a copy and share the rip.

…I’m buying everything else Titanic related at the moment!

https://mega.nz/#!V882mQwC

Key is:
RAmU9fyD7F4sbXnCb8jxttp0_Zr-2EPMXau6OB6TGmc

Thank you so much for this my friend!
Very much appreciated.

That song ‘Darkness, Darkness’ gets me every time!

Thanks again.

NOTE: Star Wars Eps III, IV, V & VI are still being edited with deleted scene music included so be patient. Also the The Lost World: Jurassic Park novel score (like my Jurassic Park Novel score) as well as the Dinotopia book score are still being compiled. They will be uploaded as they come out as well.

If there is any confusion about tracks or tracklists, first see the corresponding back covers as they have the correct track list. If something is missing, let me know. Here is what I have so far. All are Complete except where they say “album”. All are sfx free except where noted, or one or two tracks that I recorded (ex: Armageddon…Leaving on a Jet Plane, Animal Crackers, Psych Tests). My “Novel scores” are just music that I put to the scenes from a book. They are not meant to be played while reading the book as the beats might differ, as my imagination dramatisized or “montage” some scenes. It’s just what I “heard” in my head if I had made a film version of the book. So here is my list so far. Questions/comments always welcome.

Armageddon
https://mega.co.nz/#F!c11QzIqD!Gl5nhiy4VnCIj4x41FA24w

BBC Life (Life of Birds, Life of Mammals)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!559VySwK!4qg–aWfrDKy9oqF2Kc6Bw

Blue Planet Expanded Score
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Uw9gHC7a!w4PkdEx3yvNk0rUu2OReDA

Claymation Christmas
https://mega.co.nz/#F!UxEkCIiA!wpUD5zRwL1AAKqL3rbpOHg

The Day After Tomorrow
https://mega.co.nz/#F!5xVHQQzJ!xuWMN3_Xo9po7iqOKwgIMA

DINO DOCS (Dino Planet, March of the Dinosaurs, Flying Monsters, T-Rex Back to the Cretaceous)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!M091hACB!UdtsI6qMH0EcdqhutHdYGg

Dinosaur Rock
https://mega.co.nz/#F!w99h2LYI!fqyjNLMSTKKetaUzX6J8FA

Firefly (TV Show and Serenity)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Q19SyL7I!xlmqRA0XSHO7XcX_VY1M6w
Ghosts of the Abyss
https://mega.co.nz/#F!1gMkGKZT!1dZDnTiu69U47CR1w0gH-w

Gladiator Complete 3 CD
https://mega.co.nz/#F!op1zmYCC!1RvvasVq5b-gkmeGpXAY1g

Godzilla 98
https://mega.co.nz/#F!V1EmVZxT!rZddhhjbmZQvo7mqaq7pEQ

HARRY POTTER
HP3 Complete SFX,
https://mega.co.nz/#F!EtV2GZpB!PvYoJWRny6Xtg4rQnV2luA
HP4,
https://mega.co.nz/#F!AlcHkb6R!Yleu9rXRkNu_prg9BNtnkQ
HP5,
https://mega.co.nz/#F!M9l3WSpZ!iE1M72vmeyzk9kGSlhj6zQ
HP6,
https://mega.co.nz/#F!k9cCHBRA!Oi07X9mlglksWpUmT-UquA
HP7,
https://mega.co.nz/#F!9skgiTwT!Ahd_uuh6LOx-Jk5d57gx1A

Indiana Jones
https://mega.co.nz/#F!dgV3GDQY!HEs5QfyBYkSMxnl7qbkcug

Jurassic Park
JP, JP Novel Score, TLW, JPIII, JW [Album])
https://mega.co.nz/#F!dwVW3CRL!zgOv9WGBSiybw-0iQRLw6A

Lord of the Rings
https://mega.co.nz/#F!dxFHGIJa!NDwNg9Pd6PF1xRkEFu02sg

Pirates of the Caribbean
https://mega.co.nz/#F!p1MiDbAC!kvWusroLVciESV7j-rI1fQ

Raptor Red Novel Score
https://mega.co.nz/#F!I8cSSaDZ!iLPzheTTiRR6_q8SDsUfrQ

Secrets of the Titanic
https://mega.co.nz/#F!EpkmRa4K!LDuQpxQF9GMosrK3Hg0-vg

STAR WARS: (Clone Wars TV Series)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!U5VgHJQY!TYq8zACncEKS3ACMRVwb2w

STAR WARS: (I, II, III)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!NxMwVZ7J!V9y156tQHvDG5wYrznGYXQ

Terminator 2
https://mega.co.nz/#F!AxlDQSyD!uDsYvygogomsw_d-oWtI0g
The Snowman
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Ek1gkTTQ!z9B0Omr9XT8ymVoTVc_jUw

Titanic
https://mega.co.nz/#F!hxdFjJKK!she69uWR-I7VhjHHaOFnmA