Thanks for this assett1 🙂
And great job especially on Peaceful Waters, Knight’s Charge, and The Road Most Traveled!
Lets see you do something better. Loser. What are you? 80 Years old? Can you not hear? Are you deaf? Shit, like a fucking four yaer old. If you don’t like it, then don’t download it dumb shit.
You need to chill out, hard. There’s no reason to act so aggressive.
Now, I wasn’t complaining at all about this release (that would be stupid, since it’s a free offer and everything, and also because what the fuck), and I apologize if it sounded that way, because that was not at all my intention. I just prefer the normal mix, and since this is obviously based on the remastered version, which I couldn’t find anywhere in FLAC, I was just requesting it.
I wasn’t hating on him or his work in the least bit, and I sure as hell didn’t suggest I could do better. Again, if it appeared this way, I’m sorry since that was not at all what I was meaning to say – I merely like the original better, no big deal. I don’t know why you have to overreact like this.
Edit: Woah, I’ve only now realized you’re the OP, that’s pretty weird. Let me say again that I simply prefer the original, and my first post was trying to say just that – I realize you’ve worked hard on this, which can be clearly heard, but my post wasn’t mean as a personal attack on you or your work AT ALL.
Now, I wasn’t complaining at all about this release (that would be stupid, since it’s a free offer and everything, and also because what the fuck), and I apologize if it sounded that way, because that was not at all my intention. I just prefer the normal mix, and since this is obviously based on the remastered version, which I couldn’t find anywhere in FLAC, I was just requesting it.
I wasn’t hating on him or his work in the least bit, and I sure as hell didn’t suggest I could do better. Again, if it appeared this way, I’m sorry since that was not at all what I was meaning to say – I merely like the original better, no big deal. I don’t know why you have to overreact like this.
Edit: Woah, I’ve only now realized you’re the OP, that’s pretty weird. Let me say again that I simply prefer the original, and my first post was trying to say just that – I realize you’ve worked hard on this, which can be clearly heard, but my post wasn’t mean as a personal attack on you or your work AT ALL.
Sorry dude. Someone flamed my other thread and I was still pretty pissed at the time. I didn’t mean to go all crazy on you. Lol. Anyway, I used the original master tapes for this remaster. I have my sources. =) I don’t remaster remasters. lol This work isn’t related to the directsong.com release. Its all from the original recordings, not the CD or anything online. I don’t understand whats "butchered" about it. The way it was done, was to make every detail in the recording audible, a small compression, flat EQ, exciter, stereo widener, ect. I strive to go beyond any other recording of this, and any other recording in general. Detail can easily be miss-understood as distortion and over-doing-it because people are not used to listening to music with all the highs there, every detail audible. Mp3s remove so much and mp3s are what 95 percent of people are used to. If you were to compare the original to mine, you will hear so much more, and, because these are from the master tapes, no crackles and pops, like the others. Idk why they have them, even the remaster does from directsong.com. (I guess just a bad compressor). But anyway, giving one word doesn’t help me one bit. lol. But yeah. I strive for perfection. I was pissed when a guy told me my metroid prime soundtrack remaster was messed, sorry for taking it out on you. =)
Some of the songs, were sampled down with a crappy dither, and you can clearly see (about 15-18khz). It added ALOT of noise. No clue why, I guess they were trying to push the quality as much as possible and dithering from high-fidelity adds a unwanted inaudible band of noise. You can see on the spectrum.
Thanks!
Also, about the remaster. I’ve just had a bit of a harddrive crash, so I can’t listen to it again right now to help formulate what I dislike about it in particular, but the thing that was most different from the original mix was mostly just the space between the instruments – that provided a kind of thinner, although definitely clearer sound. This now comes down to a matter of preference, as any bit of music does, but I personally don’t think that Jeremy Soule wanted it to be that clear and apart, I think he was going for a more layered sound – that’s what I like more about the original, anyway, but in any case, yours is of course still great work, although different. I’m a bit of a collector, so of course the original would mean a lot to me, but to have it in even better quality that it was released is far more valuable.
Also, about the remaster. I’ve just had a bit of a harddrive crash, so I can’t listen to it again right now to help formulate what I dislike about it in particular, but the thing that was most different from the original mix was mostly just the space between the instruments – that provided a kind of thinner, although definitely clearer sound. This now comes down to a matter of preference, as any bit of music does, but I personally don’t think that Jeremy Soule wanted it to be that clear and apart, I think he was going for a more layered sound – that’s what I like more about the original, anyway, but in any case, yours is of course still great work, although different. I’m a bit of a collector, so of course the original would mean a lot to me, but to have it in even better quality that it was released is far more valuable.
I know, the master tapes would benefit everybody looking for the original recordings. I will see what I can do and will post a link in the first post if I put them up. It will probably be next week sometime considering I am very busy. =D
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I listened to two versions of the track: your remastered version and the version that’s located in the game’s data files (MP3@128) ;). Honestly, I think the frequency separation is too far off. Even if you worked with a flat equalizer and the freq bands show it, all the acoustic enhancements produced a similar audible effect making it sound similar to a radio with all the boosted treble had it not been for other acoustic enhancements that increased the reverb. And even so, that extra reverb makes the drum beat all over the track sound more like a tom-tom rather than a bass-drum. I don’t think it’s great to achieve crispness and clarity when your end product is so saturated the instruments don’t sound real anymore. Probably related, most of this enhancing is extremely conflictive with any player that will also use on-the-fly enhancements. Say a hi-fi set to a particular eq-preset: when your tracks come up the acoustic effects will sound greatly exaggerated. No matter what type of music is recorded, I think there should always be a limit to the things you can do to enhance the audio, even if you still feel you can. When comparing to the original track, I can feel the effect of normalizing after compressing. The amplitude is louder, so much louder that even if you normalize it to 0dB you’ll get clipping (somewhere at 1:20 I think). And in that region, 1:15 to 1:30, the volume gets so loud that you can hear the drums and cymbals actually sounding lower in order not to clip the audio (kinda like a dynamic normalizer) that simply isn’t present in the other version of the track.
In the end, I admit that most of this sounds like ranting. Sorry about it if it does. I honestly believe (my opinion only) that the music sounds too enhanced. I really enjoy listening to this game’s soundtrack, Oblivion’s too. I would have wished you released another set of remastered tracks probably set on a "medium" level 😛 I think I would have gone for that one.
I listened to two versions of the track: your remastered version and the version that’s located in the game’s data files (MP3@128) ;). Honestly, I think the frequency separation is too far off. Even if you worked with a flat equalizer and the freq bands show it, all the acoustic enhancements produced a similar audible effect making it sound similar to a radio with all the boosted treble had it not been for other acoustic enhancements that increased the reverb. And even so, that extra reverb makes the drum beat all over the track sound more like a tom-tom rather than a bass-drum. I don’t think it’s great to achieve crispness and clarity when your end product is so saturated the instruments don’t sound real anymore. Probably related, most of this enhancing is extremely conflictive with any player that will also use on-the-fly enhancements. Say a hi-fi set to a particular eq-preset: when your tracks come up the acoustic effects will sound greatly exaggerated. No matter what type of music is recorded, I think there should always be a limit to the things you can do to enhance the audio, even if you still feel you can. When comparing to the original track, I can feel the effect of normalizing after compressing. The amplitude is louder, so much louder that even if you normalize it to 0dB you’ll get clipping (somewhere at 1:20 I think). And in that region, 1:15 to 1:30, the volume gets so loud that you can hear the drums and cymbals actually sounding lower in order not to clip the audio (kinda like a dynamic normalizer) that simply isn’t present in the other version of the track.
In the end, I admit that most of this sounds like ranting. Sorry about it if it does. I honestly believe (my opinion only) that the music sounds too enhanced. I really enjoy listening to this game’s soundtrack, Oblivion’s too. I would have wished you released another set of remastered tracks probably set on a "medium" level 😛 I think I would have gone for that one.
1. I didn’t use any digital filters. All analogue.
2. There are the master tapes I provided for download on the first post. Try those, tell me what you think.
3. In real life, if you are listening to a symphony, your ears adjust to the volume. I tried to emulate that. I play in a symphony. When the cymbals play loud and then the brass comes in, the cymbals get quieter. Thats what our ears do. So, no, that is not a problem.
4. In our symphony, we have a bass drum. It sounds just like the recording. I compared the recording to real life scenarios. This is how it sound if you were to be right there. My headphones show the full effect of the bass drum and it has the low bass and the fullness. Nothing missing there.
5. The whole point of the remaster was so you would have real-life quality without having to run any enhancements.
6. This was as real as you could get.
7. If you don’t like what you heard, don’t download it don’t complain. Simple. Get the master tapes instead. They are what you are looking for.
I know the guy who recorded and produced the music for morrowind. He sent me copies of the master tapes on a cassette. They have the sonic qualities that you are looking for.
thanks for the master tapes, best quality ever
it’s amazing that you can have access to the master tapes like that
wait, the master tape zip is corrupt
is it corrup with anyone else too?
Anyhow… I don’t want to sound overly needy or unappreciative, as I’m really grateful for this upload, but is there any chance you’d re-rip it in 24bit/44khz eventually? Also, what exactly is up with the first track, in what way is it unusable?
Anyway, thanks for your work.
Anyhow… I don’t want to sound overly needy or unappreciative, as I’m really grateful for this upload, but is there any chance you’d re-rip it in 24bit/44khz eventually? Also, what exactly is up with the first track, in what way is it unusable?
Anyway, thanks for your work.
Hmmmm.. Very odd… I will try to re-upload it when I get the chance.
Anyway, all the music was recorded to master tape. THe first track was 5 mins long and had to be cut and trimmed, lowering the quality till it was comparable to a mp3. The didn’t keep the original. I don’t know why. But what is on the master tape is a low quality, and short version. The others were not edited and are original.
I know the guy who recorded and produced the music for morrowind. He sent me copies of the master tapes on a cassette. They have the sonic qualities that you are looking for.
You are absolutely correct! The other archive you uploaded is just what I’m looking for! tyvm Sorry for troubling you with another piece of criticism. I’m sure there are many users here who enjoy the products of your effort.
Just to be clear, the master tapes you uploaded (it is in fact corrupted although I listened to it from another source and it does sound very good) which you say you got from Jeremy Soule himself are also the same ones from DirectSong, right? I listened to both and your package already sounds enhanced. Aside from that, the album offered there also has the Rising Nerevar track from the game’s data files (which is also the one you remastered) that only lasts 1:54 but track 21 is a reprise. Is there any chance you could get the original version of the first track? That would really make your work exclusively genuine and genuinely exclusive. 😉
Just to be clear, the master tapes you uploaded (it is in fact corrupted although I listened to it from another source and it does sound very good) which you say you got from Jeremy Soule himself are also the same ones from DirectSong, right? I listened to both and your package already sounds enhanced. Aside from that, the album offered there also has the Rising Nerevar track from the game’s data files (which is also the one you remastered) that only lasts 1:54 but track 21 is a reprise. Is there any chance you could get the original version of the first track? That would really make your work exclusively genuine and genuinely exclusive. 😉
Okay. There are two master tapes. One with the original songs, (The one i uploaded) Then there was another tape with the extra music. This tape was purchased from the original owner to remaster those for DirectSong. Luckily, my friend had a copy of the master tape (Which he gave to me and I uploaded and gave back to him). I could try and hunt them down, but I doubt it would be possible. lol.
That’s a shame. I was really into having the genuine Special Edition Soundtrack "worthy" track and not the crummy 128kbps from the data files. Well, I hope you at least give it a shot.
are u sure it is working ? When i test the archive it gives me full of errors on files, saying corrupts. And i downloaded the same size as seen in megaupload link.
Until I get the lossless ones working, I have uploaded lossy AAC 256. Maybe file size is corrupting them.
And I didn’t find any strange sounds or things from the original either…
And I didn’t find any strange sounds or things from the original either…
I’m sorry! Please check out my newest remaster! V3! It is very good, I assure you, you will fall in love with it, as I have fixed that damn tinny sound I always got from my exciter. =DDD
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That’s a shame. I was really into having the genuine Special Edition Soundtrack "worthy" track and not the crummy 128kbps from the data files. Well, I hope you at least give it a shot.
I ended up getting a new copy with the entire album!!! Check out my latest release! V3!! It is completely and utterly amazing!!!