Just watch
http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/category/final-fantasy-viii/page/2/
Suck it down fanboys.
I admit that I quite like TEH SNARK.
The sort of comment that proves you are getting to the levels of idiocy that this Spoony fella demonstrates in this particular video.
FF8 was the first playstation game I ever played, and I’m a damn-near MASTER of it. But god damn, if he doesn’t hit the nail square on the head with his critiques! Funny as hell, too.
Also, to see the absolutely anal amount of attention Spoony pays to detail, just read ANY of his movie reviews… each one is about ten pages long, and he literally picks apart EVERY SINGLE LITTLE DETAIL of the film.
Spoony is funny because he’s just a funny guy and a total geek. Of the D&D, Warhammer 40K, etc. variety. I apprecaite a person so like myself, but funny, is out there making vids for us to enjoy.
For example, his rant on the Gunblade was ridiculous. I’ve never seen that much focus on a weapon in any review.
Still, its entertaining. He is pretty funny. Hehe.
Then I grew the germ of a brain.
I was agreeing.
I mean that was pure gold.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOhnG9kLkF8
EL DIABLO
Other than that, this is pretty funny.
Other than that, this is pretty funny.
Someone on my plain of thinking, thank you.
pretty much.
That’s not really funny, it’s just boring really, and anyone who’s played the game was like "YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG!". Even if you never played the game I don’t think listening to him whine whilst boring himself and you is a good comedic strategy. Just sayin’.
Some of his other reviews aren’t that involved, drawn out, or dramatic. His vlog reviews are usually very succinct and to the point.
The point I was making was that he does it for comedic effect and if you don’t find it funny, then you don’t find it funny. I was just stating his likely intent.
(Side note: I had no idea of the dynamic leveling/difficulty stuff and finished it with everyone on Level 100)
You cant walk anywhere in this town without running into … giant caterpillars!!!
HOLY SHIT CATERPILLARS!!
His missile base points were good. His comments on the options " Just press anything" and " Bang on it hard"
Its a good laugh.
That guy is an idiot. He’s just playing through the game and criticising ever aspect, with no basis for his criticisms other then the fact that he doesn’t like them. It’s no more credible a source then some fanboy spunking his pants over every aspect.
Think about it, if you change the negative adjectives for positive ones, then its a fanboy review. "This draw system… is great", "I was expecting a genie, but I got the fucking devil… That’s awesome!" etc…
I get that he’s trying to be amusing, but he’s not, he’s just annoying, and arrogant.
And I hate this whole thing about Squall being "Emo". Emo is such a buzz word at the moment that it gets thrown around a lot, without much thought.
-The emo scene came around a few years ago. FFVIII was released in 1999, at least 5 years before the emo scene started.
-Emo is just goth for pussies. Emos are people who like the idea of being depressed, broody and withdrawn, but are just posing. They want to be labelled. Squall genuinely had these characteristics. It was how his character was designed by SE. They weren’t trying to label him as anything.
Other than that, this is pretty funny.
I think his whole complaints thing about the draw system was the fact that it was inherently flawed. It’s a useless system.
Just goes to show that you have no sense of humor.
Just goes to show that you’re too flatulent to take seriously.
But I’m just repeating myself. So yeah, unfounded and not funny. Sorry.
(Side note: Squall is not emo, emos crave attention where Squall tried to get AWAY from attention. He wasn’t whiny, he was annoyed. Big difference. But again, you have to actually pay attention to the game to see that. Though I CAN still see why some people would be annoyed by him, I was not, because I felt it was used very well towards character development. FFVIII has the best character development in the series, due in part to the fact that you always see what’s running through Squall’s [and sometimes other characters’] heads.)
Also, Prak. Are a majority of your 10000 posts around two words long?
Reading my posts may also have certain side effects, most notably the infusion of wisdom and common sense.
Actually Prak, my post wasn’t fanboyish at all. It wasn’t "OMG BEST FF EVER" I merely stated it was my favorite, and even that it has it’s flaws. Did you even read it? It doesn’t seem like you did. The whole point of my post was not that FFVIII is the best, or that anyone else should think it is, merely that his review attacked FFVIII for flaws it didn’t have, instead of pointing out its real mistakes (such as getting too easy once you master the Junction system, the fact it’s likely you will never ever cast the best magic due to needing it to Junction, and that Squall might annoy some people just to name a couple). If you couldn’t see that, you clearly aren’t nearly as wise and don’t have as much common sense as you seem to think. Especially since I back up my points with facts and reasoning. But you probably don’t understand that, either. I never stated FF as the best game or a perfect one or anything, merely that I personally like it best. Enjoying a game doesn’t make me a fanboy, nor does defending it from unjust criticisms. Your comment was as unfounded as Spooney’s criticisms of FFVIII.
And Spoony’s gunblade rant was supposed to be funny. I remember when I first played i didn’t think much of it. Until I realized it had a trigger. Congratulations, you know people who loved the gunblade. They are all dumb. Lemme grab my Bowsword and we can have a fucking ball.
I’m sure prak can defend himself but
Side note: Squall is not emo, emos crave attention where Squall tried to get AWAY from attention. He wasn’t whiny, he was annoyed. Big difference.
That wasn’t fanboyish at the least. Let’s pick apart the definition of emo to find random bullshit to whine about.
The botton line was, Squall is an incredibly unlikeable main hero that no one could empathize with. He was antisocial and didn’t respond to normal things like "Hey Squall, how was your day." He was just unfriendly, annoyed at the most minor things and made the atmosphere of the game for a good damn bit, incredibly depressing and aggravating. I like to play games where the main character interacts with people. Not ignore them and stare at the ground the whole game cuz he likes alone time.
On topic sorta, I thought some of Spoony’s stuff was stupid but Zell walking into the train and going AMAZING A TRAIN! COOL was fucking retarded and Spoony making fun of that was funny as hell. Also the majority of his comments were very funny.
I think it’s funny that people comment that he doesn’t know what he is doing. Do you honestly think that FF8 was such a complicated game that Spoony did not understand that 100 Scans was useless or how to Junction magic? Do you think that you…YOU are so intelligent that you have managed to master a complex junctioning system while this reviewer failed at that? Naw son, I don’t think so. Try again later though, when you got over the fact that this game blew.
I still almost composed a long post anyway though…
Some video games, the main character was not made to be liked. I could name another game where the main hero is far more emo and miserable and a jerk kinda than Squall.
The draw system wasn’t perfect, no, but it was different, and not nearly as bad as he made it out to be.
As far as Squall goes, I already stated that I could see why other people wouldn’t like him. It just didn’t bother me.
If spoony DOES know what he’s doing, his review doesn’t give that impression.
The whole point of my first post wasn’t even how great FFVIII is, as you seem to think. I even said I understand why other people wouldn’t like it. The point WAS that although the game has it’s fair share of flaws, he missed them all in favor of picking apart things that WEREN’T wrong with the game.
Just because you think the game "blew" doesn’t mean anyone who disagrees with you is a fanboy. Not everyone likes the same games. I respect the fact that you didn’t like it. I don’t care. I bet there are some games you like that I think suck. Would I call you a fanboy for liking them? No, because we obviously have different taste in games. Bottom line: I respect your opinions – now stop being ignorant and respect mine.
I liked Spoony’s review because it brought to light many of the elements which I disliked about the game. Such as the draw system. Such as the Junctioning system. Such as the somewhat forced storytelling for the first half as well as the countless tutorials. Such as the awkward, jarring and once again forced, conversations throughout the game coupled with the lack of interaction between the characters. A lot of things (not all) he said made sense and I found them funny.
No shit, 100 scans is useless. No shit, it’s not a big deal that the gunblade (i still think it’s retarded) is not that big a deal. No shit, it doesn’t matter there are giant caterpillars in the town. They were all in the review for teh lolz. If you didn’t find the, "Why can’t I walk anywhere in this town without running into damn giant caterpillars" funny, then…you must really be hellbent on defending this game. Jus relax.
Now that that’s done, I’m gonna come down hard on some of your crap. Sorry.
The draw system wasn’t perfect, no, but it was different, and not nearly as bad as he made it out to be.
The fact he actually drew 100 Scans and posted it the whole time was pretty funny. Obviously exaggerated, he showed that drawing was boring and lame. He’s right. Don’t try to deny it, you’ll be lying to yourself if you say drawing is fun.
And no it isn’t as bad as he made it out to be. It’s worse than he made it out to be. Not only is drawing 100 of anything time consuming, and boring, it also made your characters super powerful off the get go. In ANY game, shit like that is unbalanced and devoid of any challenge. You mentioned this, but you seem to overlook it when talking about the Draw system. I feel they are linked.
Furthermore, this makes me the most angry. Why do people assume just because it’s fantasy, ridiculous things that don’t make sense are okay? -Fantasy is the use of magic and supernatural elements in the plot line. Therefore, sir, magic and summons make perfect sense while gunblades don’t.
Let me tell you why I have problems with it (the gunblade) and why I think people who like it are dumb:
The main reason why? It’s a copout. Practicality aside, they made the gunblade just to put a gun and a sword together because they thought it would be cool. They didn’t try to innovate the sword or the gun individually but instead tried combining two foreign species. They didn’t think, putting two things that don’t really go together in any form or method might actually NOT work out in application. They said. HEY. Gun. Sword. Gunsword. I’m sure people will LOVE this idea. Although I personally don’t think it’s cool and I think the concept of a long ranged weapon and a close combat weapon cannot be combined to retain the coolness of either a pure badass sword or a pure badass gun, Square was right. Shallow people with ridiculous opinions will eat up any shit they dish out. Hence why the gunblade is making an incredible return in the new FF. Again, this little bit bout your lovely weapon is I suppose my opinion where I am trying to make you see it through my eyes. Take it or…take it is what I’m trying to make you realize. I felt as thought I needed to justify why I said it was dumb. And why I felt that any supporter of the gunblade is a fanboy. I hope you see it from my pov.
Finally, I posted to attack your criticism of Spoony’s review as well as the invalid points about the draw system, the gunblade and magic comparison (although a minor issue), and the fact that you missed the comic element of his review. If you didn’t think it was funny, then you were looking at it through the wrong lens.
Well, basically fantasy is NOT about the use of magic or any supernatural elements.
As the word itself says, it’s fantasy!
It can be anything you can think of.
So there are no things in fantasy that make no sense. 😉
About FFVIII:
I liked the game, well i like RPGs in general.
But the drawing system was really some pain in the ass, yep^^
Played it to 100%, unfortunately my disc got screwed up…
And for Prak and BerserkerGattsu:
Let it be, guys, it’s a matter of taste.
And no it isn’t as bad as he made it out to be. It’s worse than he made it out to be. Not only is drawing 100 of anything time consuming, and boring,
It takes exponentially less time to draw magic when you actually bother to boost your magic stat, which is really easy to do. His demonstration of how long it takes to draw 100 scans with people who have nothing junctioned to their magic stats does not reflect the nature of drawing magic when you know what the hell you’re doing. Furthermore, he complains about this time he wastes as though he HAS to do it, implying that he doesn’t realize that scan is totally worthless, whether or not that’s actually the case. As a result, this part of his argument falls apart.
it also made your characters super powerful off the get go. In ANY game, shit like that is unbalanced and devoid of any challenge. You mentioned this, but you seem to overlook it when talking about the Draw system. I feel they are linked.
This is, of course, a far, far more legitimate complaint about the draw system, and while I enjoyed beating the living shit out of enemies way too easily, I won’t defend the draw system for that characteristic.
Furthermore, this makes me the most angry. Why do people assume just because it’s fantasy, ridiculous things that don’t make sense are okay? -Fantasy is the use of magic and supernatural elements in the plot line. Therefore, sir, magic and summons make perfect sense while gunblades don’t.
Gunblades are horrendously impractical, and I think Spoony’s lampooning of them IS pretty funny. No argument here.
Finally, I posted to attack your criticism of Spoony’s review as well as the invalid points about the draw system, the gunblade and magic comparison (although a minor issue), and the fact that you missed the comic element of his review. If you didn’t think it was funny, then you were looking at it through the wrong lens.
I have yet to see someone defend "chicken-wuss" as a legitimate insult. A lot of the things he makes fun of are legitimately pretty stupid.
I could probably dig it up for you IDX, if you REALLY wanted me to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_sword
http://www.ruble-enterprises.com/PFsword.htm
"Pistol swords were not widely used and became uncommon relatively quickly, due to their expense and because instead of getting two weapons in one, one got a heavy pistol and a heavy, off-balance sword, as shown by the poor performance of the Elgin pistol."
Let it be, guys, it’s a matter of taste.
That was pretty much the point of my last post. But I guess Prak couldn’t figure that out. I was never trying to persuade anyone that FFVIII should be anyone’s favorite game, or that it’s perfect, or the best game ever. Hell, it’s not even MY favorite game, and by no means perfect.
I never defended the overpowered aspect of the draw/junction system. Spoony made it seem pointless, not overpowered. But the truth is it IS overpowered – and how can something that’s overpowered be pointless, I ask you? They kind of contradict each other. That’s like saying an anti-air weapon that destroys enemy jets too easily is pointless. This, to me, makes it CLEAR he didn’t know what he was talking about. And as previously stated by FF1WithAllThieves, a well-junctioned Magic stat reduces the time for drawing magic incredibly. But yes, I’m not arguing against the fact that the Junction system can be abused to overpower your characters, or that drawing, even if it DOESN’T take that long, is boring. I was the one who made the overpowered point in the first place, and I agree it IS a problem with the game, though admittedly it was quite fun for a while tearing through normal enemies as if they weren’t even there.
Oh, and I have some respect for everyone who posted here except for Prak, as he’s the only one who hasn’t offered anything legitimate to the conversation, or made any good points at all. All he did was come in here calling me a fanboy while showing he’s nothing more than a reverse-fanboy (That is to say, he’s exactly the same as a fanboy but instead of liking the game he hates it.) Sad for him, but oh well.
(For the record, Prak, no whining happened. Not one of my posts had anything that would have sounded whiny in it. Someone disagreeing with your opinion on a game does NOT make them a fanboy or whiny, despite what you in your lacking intelligence may believe.)
So yes, I have respect for everyone’s opinion here except Prak’s, and in the end it all just comes down exactly that: opinion. But I’m done trying to explain myself. Some of you get it, some of you never will.
"Pistol swords were not widely used and became uncommon relatively quickly, due to their expense and because instead of getting two weapons in one, one got a heavy pistol and a heavy, off-balance sword, as shown by the poor performance of the Elgin pistol."
A revision is in order!
*Fetches tools*
(For the record, Prak, no whining happened. Not one of my posts had anything that would have sounded whiny in it. Someone disagreeing with your opinion on a game does NOT make them a fanboy or whiny, despite what you in your lacking intelligence may believe.)
So yes, I have respect for everyone’s opinion here except Prak’s, and in the end it all just comes down exactly that: opinion. But I’m done trying to explain myself. Some of you get it, some of you never will.
Lolling @ this.
How I’ve missed the obsessive hatred of delusional, hypocritical fuckwits. And here’s a news flash for you, amigo. I don’t have an opinion on the matter. I have facts.
It is a fact that I dislike the game. It is a fact that I dislike it based on provable flaws in its design. It is a fact that you threw out the word "opinion," thus obliterating your own arguments in a puff of nonsensical equivalency. Lastly, it is a fact that I don’t even care about the game enough to discuss it. I simply saw you say something retarded and called you on it.
I can honestly say, FFVIII is my favorite Final Fantasy, I can say I enjoyed the drawing system(besides the fact I have 4k HPs at level 9 >.<) The Gunblade, however impractical, I thought was a excellent idea.
On the topic of Spoony’s reviews, I love them, because I’ve played the game and he makes good points in a funny-as-hell way.
And as for Prak..well beside the point you seem like a dick, I have to ask: Why are you calling people out on a forum about a game you don’t even care about? What is the point of it?
"I would take raging PMS as a better excuse than nothing!"
-Spoony on Ultimecia’s plan for Time "K"ompression.
I actually don’t have any problems with the game except the draw system AT THE BEGINNING ONLY!
Other than that, it was fun, which matters the most.
He does that to everyone. As to why? Who knows. Maybe he’s bored. But in the end, are you going to care about someone over the internet who you will never see to actually bother getting mad at?
No, merely trying to understand. Then again, a friend of mine made a excellent point:
"The internet is for pointless complaining."
So..
Understanding has come.
I saw this review a few weeks ago, most likely a month. And what I have to say is this:
The game: In my opinion the gameplay was the best thing I saw in a Main FF, Junctioning Magic to stats > Leveling Up….
Story/Characters, One of the worse FF, the story doesn’t make sense at all, Squall personallity changes radically from CD to CD, the guy is another person in every CD, the other characters I didn’t found them that appealing, saving Irvine and Laguna & company. The save the world quest doesn’t make sense. And the romantic part of the game doesn’t buy me. FFIV has a good solid base of romantic material in comparison to this.
About spoony’s review: The guy exagerates many things and make them funny, that’s all, I found it as a good video to say why FFVIII concept/storyline/characters suck.
About the other people opinions: Everyone makes a good point (junctioning system overpowered, character development, etc…) The junctioning system it is overpowered indeed, but it’s the only FF that use that kind of system so they’ve don’t give it much room to keep on doing it more balanced. The character development is the part that I don’t agree, I understand why you say this (squall from being a student to a mercenary then leader then world’s savior) but let us be reasonable, this character was the most appropiate to be all that?, the guy doesn’t give a damn about anything, he’s just good at fighting, that’s all, and there’s no basis to his romance with rinoa, he suddenly is in love in CD3, he doesn’t give a damn about the girl until suddenly on CD3.
Well that’s just my opinion…
I admit, I did enjoy FFVIII more than FFVII… however, FFVIII is no where near my favorite FF Game. Spoony has his own opinion about the game as everyone else does.
I’m reminded of a quote I heard once…
"An opinion is like an asshole, everyone has one."
Nuff said.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_sword
http://www.ruble-enterprises.com/PFsword.htm
..Wow. That looks..quite awesome, if impractical.