In supposed response to this, there now seems to be apparent white zombies in the latest trailer.
What are your thoughts on this? Is it right to call "RACIST" now and ignore the massive white/spanish zombie genocides of the past? Do you feel it was necessary for Capcom to bend to the cries of those offended?
Because it was made by japanese people, and includes characters that kill americans.
Overall I don’t think the game is racist. If you follow the storyline, it makes scene that Chris and Clarie would find the umbrella virus origin in Africa. People claim AIDS was made in a corporate lab and put in Africa after all.
Not saying that thread should have been bumped, but interesting that this one is recreating it pretty much post for post =P
it was not racist by not including black zombies in the other games (except outbreak).
it was not racist in re4, where the bastard son of rambo and chuck norris killed hordes of spaniards.
it is not racist now that the average joe is killing africans.
And this is old news too.
And yes it’s true, blacks aren’t the only ones who get discriminated but they are the ones who speak out about it the most.
Also, sorry Kneg. ;_;
Seriously that question in itself could could be interpreted as racist. Someone could interpret that as, "…why do blacks only pull the race card when blacks are involved?". Racism will never end discussing it never ends up useful, many braincells get raped in the process, and much bandwidth will be wasted on "heated" arguments.
Remember when RE4 took place in Spain & had Leon & Ada killing off Spaniards? Yeah, where were the protestors then?!Umm because this is America and Spanish Americans don’t really relate to Spain. I’ve never met a Spanish person from Spain actually,
That’s just bullshit, black people are not the only ones who get discriminated.
And this is old news too.
Yes… it’s called racism not blackism, I’m not sure what your point is.
I realise this isn’t "new" but I just wanted to have a discussion on the updated issue. Obviously Capcom has buckled to the cries of protestors and added white zombies to the mix.
And yes it’s true, blacks aren’t the only ones who get discriminated but they are the ones who speak out about it the most.
Also, sorry Kneg. ;_;
Ummm you realize that blacks have only been considered equals for about 40 years. People are still alive from the Civil Rights movement. I don’t think you are in any position to make that comparison. The Civil Rights movement hasn’t been that long ago of course people are still going to be a little weird about it. Not to mention the facts there are outward racists everywhere and anti race groups everywhere.
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Seriously that question in itself could could be interpreted as racist. Someone could interpret that as, "…why do blacks only pull the race card when blacks are involved?". Racism will never end discussing it never ends up useful, many braincells get raped in the process, and much bandwidth will be wasted on "heated" arguments.
QFT. Really, subjects like this only end up causing hate filled arguments and flame wars. And you’re making Jack Thompson happy.
because they would have to sue every possible videogame ever, and being no chance for them to win, they dont do it and never will.
im pretty sure those petatards would kill an undead dog than sparing its life, at the cost of his own life.
Shouldn’t the zombies be in that proportion?
Apartheid isn’t exactly old news in South Africa, either.
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That’s not what I was getting at in the slightest.
I blame media and other instigators for this sort of thing. This is just a game guys. I don’t think I’ll be hearing Chris Redfield saying demeaning racial slurs in this game so give it a rest already.
The only way this game is racist is if the person playing it is racist.
i lol’d.
just about every game has some form of racism, sexism, or general offense about it. People need to get over it and stop bitching and whining.
This game is not racist. Its is not telling us to go out and kill people who don’t have the same skin colour as us. Therefore i see no problem.
lol, picture Redfield yelling after blasting a mob with a rocket launcher: "Got your black ass, nigger!"
Well, when it’s the statement that’s more often than not, true… ya know…
Umm because this is America and Spanish Americans don’t really relate to Spain. I’ve never met a Spanish person from Spain actually,
I’ve never met a black person from Africa. What’s that got to do with anything?
Ummm you realize that blacks have only been considered equals for about 40 years. People are still alive from the Civil Rights movement. I don’t think you are in any position to make that comparison. The Civil Rights movement hasn’t been that long ago of course people are still going to be a little weird about it. Not to mention the facts there are outward racists everywhere and anti race groups everywhere.
What comparison? That fact that blacks cry "racism" more often than any other race?
RE is most definitely racist. The glorification of murdering of hundreds (thousands?) of undead and parasite-infested is almost Hitler-esque in scope and unparalleled in bigotry. Another thing–why PETA hasn’t sued Capcom to Silent Hill and back for its treatment of animals is entirely beyond me. I mean, shotgunning puppies? Blowing up a pressurized canister in a crocodile’s mouth? Removing a shark from its water? In fact, I think Capcom is directly responsible for the rampant dogfighting in the southern parts of the US.
I lol’d. Thank you Cyan.
Give me one source of proof that what you said wasn’t a biased opinion.
The Spanish said nothing when RE4 came out.
Yet when RE5 had a TRAILER, blacks cried racism.
The Spanish said nothing when RE4 came out.
Yet when RE5 had a TRAILER, blacks cried racism.
Umm, actually, it wasn’t Blacks who cried racism it was the people in public offices who crusade to get video games banned like Jack Thompson. In fact if you go on youtube, there are plenty of videos of black people saying "it’s just a game"
So yeah, you and hippo need to quit with the instigating.
The Spanish said nothing when RE4 came out.
Yet when RE5 had a TRAILER, blacks cried racism.
I suggest you take statistics, that proves nothing. Oh seeing as spanish descendants didn’t complain the blacks complain the most about eveything? Your logic is either fucked or thats a bad joke.
AlterNet.org, a left wing website, joined the debate, saying RE5 looked like a " Training video for a white supremasist race war"
????
And its being criticised on a comparison issue between black zombies and the African AIDS epidemic.
Capcom has mostly kept the zombies strictly Caucasian, so for people to be calling it racist is shit imo. Also, if this much stuff has been brought up from a small trailer, what gonna happen when the game comes out?
AlterNet.org, a left wing website, joined the debate, saying RE5 looked like a " Training video for a white supremasist race war"
????
And its being criticised on a comparison issue between black zombies and the African AIDS epidemic.
Capcom has mostly kept the zombies strictly Caucasian, so for people to be calling it racist is shit imo. Also, if this much stuff has been brought up from a small trailer, what gonna happen when the game comes out?
With rampant bitching abound, it could be that the zombies will be decolorized, and will either be white or Africa will be taken out of the mix and will be slated as an entirely different island.
The Iberian peninsula was settled and/or invaded by Celtics, Romans, Germanic groups such as the Visigoths, and the Moors (Greeks and Phoenician traders also traveled as far as the Iberian peninsula for business)
Americans tend to mis-categorize anything Spanish named as Hispanic which is a total inaccuracy.
Even the general term Hispanic for racial profiling is in itself inaccurate.
Latin America is a populated by the Indeginous, Caucasian, African, Mestizosm , and various Mixed race popoulation.
The demographic varies greatly from area to area depending on it’s history.
It’s too broad and general to label all of Latin America as Hispanic.
Me?! :rolleyes:
So yeah, you and hippo need to quit with the instigating.
Actually, iirc, some black ACLU woman cried fowl over the trailer, too. Let me see if I can track down the link. It’s been a while since I read her rant, but I think she was already one of those anti-videogame people, to boot.
Yeah, I remember reading her long post on Gamespot, before they soldout. She’s with Jack Thompson, Tipper Gore, and them though. Like I said, adding fuel to the fire gives them the victory and screws us gamers over.
I agree with you there. More and more people are going to play it just to see if the game truly is racist.
I myself think it’s a fictional AIDS type of setup with the Umbrella Virus.
"Got your black ass, nigger!"
Anyone who would do that is an idiot of the highest order.
I think I did that to Verdugo in RE4 my last playthrough…
Clearly, I am a racist pig and Jesse Jackson should hang me by my entrails…
you didnt get it, huh? my point was that racist people WILL get this game because you can kill hordes of naggers using a white guy.
i for one, will get it because its a RE game and because this is capcom’s gta (in term of scandals) game.
i once got manhunt because people labeled it as an awesome and brutal game that got banned in some countries, etc.
i got it, beat level one, then traded it for fatal frame.
there is nothing in that game i considered brutal or awesome.
and because i like (sometimes) to get peoples attention, like my travel to spain, where i played with my virtual boy and i knew people would stare at me.
or my quick visit to naziland (less known as germany), where i played resident evil DS everywhere i could, knowing its illegal to play M rated games there (until 2010 i think)
Its a sad fact, but we all know there are people out there like that.
But i do see i misunderstood what you meant.
It was based off the movie Boyz in the Hood.
So, duh.
GTA:VC was based on Miami Vice and Scarface
GTA; LCS was based on Goodfellas
Not sure what GTA:VCS was based on… Maybe Dead Presidents?
GTA:VC was based on Miami Vice and Scarface
GTA; LCS was based on Goodfella
Now that I think about it, I do notice many similarities for VC with those movies….
i find it hard to not notice the many similarities between VC and scarface.
like the fact flash fm’s tracks is scarface’s OST. though in gta3, flashback fm also features scarface’s ost.
one thing that can be easily missed, is the monitors in tommy’s office in his mansion (after getting it).
all the monitors show the globe with the phrase "the word is yours" from tony’s mansion.
Basicly GTA:SA as a whole was based on all the urban west coast movies. For example the main character CJ (Carl Johnson) is a dead ringer for the main character in Menace II Society.
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I gave up reading after "no matter wot if re5 was a black guy killing white zobies"
Discrimination as unfortunate as it is to say is part of human nature. You’re a different color, have a different sexual preference, or haven’t conformed to stereotypes so it’s impossible to agree to disagree or see eye-to-eye. The truth is that "African-Americans" aren’t alone in their suffering. Everyone falls victim to discrimination no matter the color of their skin, or sexual preference. I’ve done my share of slandering, but then again… who hasn’t? I’ve been called "cracker" numerous times, but I’m not making a big fuss about it. It seems to me that the "African-American" community is making a big fuss over something trivial.
I think that the "African-American" community should get the hell over themselves. The Spaniards didn’t make a fuss about Resident Evil 4. The "American" (Generalizing the white community) haven’t made a fuss about the previous Resident Evil titles.
because in the previous games, the heroes were northamericans killing "ex"northamericans.
Well, the frog like things running around in RE 1 could be referred to as Frenchies. But i dunno if that counts.
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I gave up reading after "no matter wot if re5 was a black guy killing white zobies"
scrow u im dislexic u prat
nah, more like japanese, after all, they are referred to as spider experts
as for:
Call me a poser. I’m not a hardcore Resident Evil fanbitch so I didn’t take the time to read each individual profile of every character to witness their birth right. The majority of them were white, but I’m pretty certain should memory serve me correct that there were several different races running amok eating brains.
only both outbreak games have featured nagger zombies, also included in RE UC, which recycled alot from outbreak
re0, 1, 2, 3 and cvx featured only white zombies.
I think what JoSephiroth is trying to say is that the general concensus is blacks can be as racial as they want and no one bats an eye because they’re not racist, they’re edgy and alternative! However when the tables are turned and something as innocent as a RE5 trailer comes out, all of a sudden it’s racist. It’s double standards like these that make me hate the human race. :-\
Note: I say the trailer is innocent because I doubt the Japanese were thinking, "Let’s make a game where you shoot niggers! But let’s disguise them as zombies so it’s ok!"
Note: I say the trailer is innocent because I doubt the Japanese were thinking, "Let’s make a game where you shoot niggers! But let’s disguise them as zombies so it’s ok!"
Interesting? When 50 Cents game Bulletproof was about to come out, white people were in an uproar because one of the trailers showed 50 shooting only white people in suits.
Seriously, if you want to bitch about the human race, there are forums you can join that will welcome you with open arms.
Also, seeing as how this is the only thread where I am "bitching" about it, there’s no reason to join another forum.
Jackass.
I didn’t notice anything too terrible in the trailer. Just zombies. From Africa. And zombies need to be shot on sight. That’s every RE.
I wouldn’t generally attribute the outcry to the general black public. More than likely the old ‘racist’ complaint was pulled out by "leaders in the black community" who have no fucking clue about the franchise. I guess all they see is white guy vs. Africans and it’s 1820 all over again. I couldn’t even call it racist. However, maybe a tad insensitive to the plight of some African countries which actually do suffer from rampant disease.
The decision to diversify the zombie cast is an ignorant one, but mostly harmless as it won’t really ruin the game. Still, this is some sad shit to read.
Also, seeing as how this is the only thread where I am "bitching" about it, there’s no reason to join another forum.
Jackass.
Getting angry doesn’t ignore the fact that your argument is flawed.
No, she has a very flat rear end.
flattest girl in RE history..
even flatter than ada, and shes flat
Qft.
And this proves it!
A tad cliche, huh? Blacks killing blacks?
Ah, so GTA games are based on gangster films. RE5 is based on the biggie and tupac business? Nice.
Thanks guys!
It wouldn’t surprise me if something like that showed up :P.
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She has no ass! Or awesome boobage.
Thank you, you have just graduated from one stereotype to the next. I salute you.
FTR, I agree, about the ass: pancake.
On topic: Uh, black pride.
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Her face.
But I was just pointing out earlier that you can’t say "junk in the trunk" when the trunk has no junk to speak of.
On topic: Uh, black pride.
So that means your a zombie. And because I’m not black, I get to shoot you. Now tell me, does that make any sense to the point where I can be called ‘racist’?
This post included.
About the girl. That’s just a couple shots of her. I’d have to play the game to decide her hot factor.
About the girl. That’s just a couple shots of her. I’d have to play the game to decide her hot factor.
no one denied jill or claire’s hotness factor just by seeing rendered artwork.
to me, i didnt even doubt rebecca’s hotness of her cowgirl renders.
Her ass has caved in lol. still she’s got a charm about her…that girl.
…I guess.
And yes. I am a pervert. What of it?
to me, i didnt even doubt rebecca’s hotness of her cowgirl renders.
Jill was never hot to me, though I can see why other people would think so.
As for Claire, I didn’t think she was hot until I saw her hair down in the RE2’s story clear screen.
Jill was HOT btw, hotter than Ada, Rebeca and Claire.
Jill was HOT btw, hotter than Ada, Rebeca and Claire.
dead wrong my friend.
japanese LOVE voluptuous women, both in ass and boobs.
they specially like blondes.
according to a programmer in re4, ashley was made based on the team’s ideal blonde girl… and britney spears.
and i also think jill is the hottest of the RE girls, but i tend to like CUTE girls most, thus, rebecca is my favorite female character.
they ARE japanese.
thats why i said "the ideal blonde" (thre dots "…") AND britney spears.
so, their ideal blonde is someone who looks like BS but much better.
She always was, even in that day. She’s trying to be good looking again right now, but I don’t think it’s going to work.
Some of this discussion would befit a general RE5 thread, if anyone would like to make one. Otherwise, consider this topic covered and a toe just achin’ to stub.
G’night folks.