KoRnX19
03-10-2007, 01:32 AM
Well we should know how the starters of pokemon diamond and pearl are like, so tell me you will you pick?
If you want know i am going to get Chimchar the fire monkey, he just looks so cuul. š
Zulu
03-10-2007, 01:37 AM
Turtwig (what a moronic name) is my preference.
ThroneofOminous
03-10-2007, 01:51 AM
I find it very unlikely that I wonāt choose Piplup.
JoSephiroth
03-10-2007, 08:24 AM
Nintendo still pumping out Pokemon games?
Havenāt played a Pokemon game since Gold or Silver. Question. How many Pokemon are there now? Has it pushed a million yet?
KoRnX19
03-10-2007, 09:10 PM
Thereās a total of 493 pokemon. š
Swedish Fish
03-10-2007, 09:24 PM
I find it hard to choose anything over a fire monkey. That is, of course, if I actually buy the game. Itās just gotten ridiculous over the last couple of years. Nintendo is pumping out more Pokemon games than Catholics pump out babies.
TidesOfWar
03-10-2007, 09:31 PM
Turtwig my first run through, then Piplup.
Sciz_Bisket
03-10-2007, 10:27 PM
turtwig problly.
Unlimited_Lionheart
03-10-2007, 10:51 PM
WTF did they go past deoxys already? I have no idea what those pokemon are. Iāll have to play those.
Wattson
03-11-2007, 02:23 AM
Itās just gotten ridiculous over the last couple of years. Nintendo is pumping out more Pokemon games than Catholics pump out babies.
What?
98 ā Red and Blue
99 ā Yelllow
2000 ā Gold and Silver
2003 ā Ruby/Sapphire
2004 ā Fire Red/Leaf Green
2005 ā Emerald
2007 ā Diamond/Pearl
Two games in the "last couple of years" is not ridiculous at all. :/
Iām getting NAETLE first, though (Turtwig is a shitty name ;_; ), but at least one friend and I are going to make sure we each have all three.
since I love both turtles and penguins, Iām torn.
Good chance itāll be Piplup though, since I generally just donāt dig on grass types that much.
Swedish Fish
03-11-2007, 05:31 AM
What?
98 ā Red and Blue
99 ā Yelllow
2000 ā Gold and Silver
2003 ā Ruby/Sapphire
2004 ā Fire Red/Leaf Green
2005 ā Emerald
2007 ā Diamond/Pearl
Two games in the "last couple of years" is not ridiculous at all. :/
My point is that Nintendo isnāt bringing anything new. I/my brother have all of the games except Yellow, Leaf Green, Ruby, and Silver. I got bored after Gold/Silver. The games are just rehashes with prettier animations, increasingly more Pokemon, and even worse main characters. In my opinion, thatās pretty ridiculous.
Tact
03-11-2007, 05:31 AM
aw dammit. they havenāt had decent looking starters since red. -_-
i hate stupid looking starters. it just makes it harder to pick. iād have to look at their evolutions to make a final descision. thereās no way iām having stupid looking pokemon. style and looks is everything to me as that is my style in raising pokemon. i believe all pokemon can be raised to be super strong and powerful. so i donāt look for power or skills. instead i look for stylish pokemon!!
:p
but anyway. yah. all of these starters look lame to me. itās like they get a new artist to come up with the new pokemon every new game. the original is still the best. >.<
but if i had to pick right now. iād prolly go for the penuin. (sigh)
chewey
03-11-2007, 05:37 AM
Piplup, but Iāll probably nickname him Pochama.
J. Peterman
03-11-2007, 06:03 AM
I WILL GET THEM ALL
though i havenāt decided if i am going to get pearl or diamond yet
MAYBE I WLL CHOOSE GARAMAN THE FIRE TYPE POKEMON
Wattson
03-11-2007, 06:10 AM
I got bored after Gold/Silver. The games are just rehashes with prettier animations, increasingly more Pokemon, and even worse main characters. In my opinion, thatās pretty ridiculous.
Have you ever played a game series before?
Thatās pretty much how all of them work.
J. Peterman
03-11-2007, 06:32 AM
NO MAN SUIKODEN IS LIKE NEW EVERY TIME THE BEST GAME EVER MADE!
OH YEAH! THE BEST GAME EVER WITH THE STORY THAT IS SO GOOD THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT KONAMI COULD DO NO BETTER, BUT BAM IV COMES OUT AND YOU THINK THEY CANāT BUT THEN V OH MY THAT KEEPS EVERYTHING ALIVE
but i have been out of the pokemon loop since silver/gold
z.zetsumei
03-11-2007, 06:41 AM
Piplup, but Iāll probably nickname him Pochama.
Thatās what Iād doā¦Pochama sounds so much better than Piplup. And Iād probably choose Piplup for the sake of having a penguin as a starter.
Kakarot
03-11-2007, 09:01 AM
Have you ever played a game series before?
Thatās pretty much how all of them work.
I played Final Fantasy, and it didnāt work like that⦠š
Wattson
03-11-2007, 10:13 AM
I played Final Fantasy, and it didnāt work like that⦠š
Funny enough, Final Fantasy was exactly what I had in mind when I posted that!
Penguin
03-11-2007, 10:26 AM
Piplup, but Iāll probably nickname him Pochama.
same
Zulu
03-11-2007, 03:46 PM
since I love both turtles and penguins, Iām torn.
Good chance itāll be Piplup though, since I generally just donāt dig on grass types that much.
I didnāt either, but Types doesnāt matter anymore. Damage are based on stats, and not Types anymore. Am I right?
Wattson
03-11-2007, 06:56 PM
I didnāt either, but Types doesnāt matter anymore. Damage are based on stats, and not Types anymore. Am I right?
Nope. (http://serebii.net/diamondpearl/battlechange.shtml)
Types donāt matter in anymore in determining whether an attack is special or physical, but they still matter in every other way they used to.
TidesOfWar
03-11-2007, 07:29 PM
98 ā Red and Blue
99 ā Yelllow
2000 ā Gold and Silver
2003 ā Ruby/Sapphire
2004 ā Fire Red/Leaf Green
2005 ā Emerald
2007 ā Diamond/Pearl
you forgot crystal.
JoSephiroth
03-11-2007, 07:32 PM
Thereās a total of 493 pokemon. š
I remember some of the classic Pokemon such as Bulbasaur, Squirtle, and Charmander. If memory serves me right those were the three beginner Pokemon for Red, and Blue. Those were good times, but I lost interest after Gold and Silver.
Hmm. I didnāt know about the changes to physical/special damage.
Thatās pretty interesting, primarily for cases where itāll be something like elemental punches which are suddenly going to become a much more important part of competition. Iām not sure how I feel about it yet. Some of the changes seem odd, like spark being physical (apparently it is an "electified tackle" now?)
This could also have a huge impact on certain Pokes like Absol who have incredible attack stats but donāt have any good attacks to go with them.
There are some neat moves listed in that link too. I like the sound of anticipate and trouble seed.
Neo Xzhan
03-12-2007, 10:38 AM
Piplup, his final form is some kind of king pengiun. Itās awesome. Also, I generally loved the water starters.
Ghost_of_Freedom
03-12-2007, 12:02 PM
Piplup, as it is the only one that is not a complete copy of another starter pokemon.
J. Peterman
03-12-2007, 06:55 PM
dang i was going to go pochama but if you all are i may have to rethink this\
turtwig maybe i think the japanese is naetoru my katana/hiragana is a bit rusty so i could be wrong
Killa_7
03-12-2007, 08:57 PM
I choose Turtwig, cause the reptile/amphibian starters are the best ones: >bubasaur
>Charmandar
>Totidile
>Chikorita
>mudkip
>Treecko
Silfurabbit
03-13-2007, 02:46 AM
I find it hard to choose anything over a fire monkey. That is, of course, if I actually buy the game. Itās just gotten ridiculous over the last couple of years. Nintendo is pumping out more Pokemon games than Catholics pump out babies.
Lol I was just at a really big church i think it was supposedly the 6th biggest church in the world, I think it was Episcopalian
J. Peterman
03-13-2007, 04:46 AM
hey anybody want to trade a pidgey for a pochama or charchar or whatever that fire monkey i called? i can also trade a spearow if that is what you want
also will trade
ratatta
for
mew
and
raticate
for
deoxys
KoRnX19
03-13-2007, 07:47 AM
hey anybody want to trade a pidgey for a pochama or charchar or whatever that fire monkey i called? i can also trade a spearow if that is what you want
also will trade
ratatta
for
mew
and
raticate
for
deoxys
Not a fare trade eh! :whatever:
J. Peterman
03-13-2007, 08:13 AM
i know i am giving up lots but i can stand to lose that much
I will give you deoxys for a pikachu with surf and volt tackle
Tact
03-14-2007, 08:10 PM
LMAO AT FRASIER! ^_____^
i would do it. i got like 14 mews. š
J. Peterman
03-14-2007, 09:31 PM
TK i do not have a pikachu with surf and tackle but i can get one with quick attack instead tell me if u r interested
tact i will catch a rattata once i get diamond/pearl if he isnāt in i will use my leaf green to get him you have a deal
KoRnX19
03-15-2007, 12:10 AM
:laugh: Hey Frasier Crane, i will give you a Piplup for a Pidgey.
no no
surf and VOLT tackle
J. Peterman
03-15-2007, 04:01 AM
:laugh: Hey Frasier Crane, i will give you a Piplup for a Pidgey.
i will deal
b/c i want
tk i can get you a pikachu named MAMACHU instead
so here are trades i have
Trade: Rattata
Recive: Mew
Trade: Pidgey
Receive: Piplup
so now i will use buizel for fun
then pick turtwig
also espeon
then a um i will go um pikachu
and let me think darkrai
and um let me think again ho-oh
JoeBob
03-15-2007, 07:03 AM
Heh, iāve played all the diamond pearl starters and they just seem like replicas of past pokemon. You can tell theyāre running out of ideas when they come out with a turtle with a leaf on it as the grass starter. Who reckons by next pokemon theyāll have a cockroach pokemon?
Of course iāve only played diamond and pearl in japanese, so i wasnāt quite sure what was going on XD
Yeah, the diamond and pearl pokemon, not all that great, but otherwise the gameās pretty good.
I bet that if the games had come in the opposite order, and red and blue were just about to be released, people would be going, "You know theyāre running out of ideas when one of the starter pokemon is a lizard with a flower bud on its back!"
Itās Pokemon. How is a turtle with a leaf on its back at all out of place?
Tact
03-15-2007, 10:14 PM
oh sorry frasier. unless you mean in red/blue (original) then i canāt give a mew. i donāt have a mew in any of the new ones. the farthest i can go is silver/gold/crystal. outside of that. i aināt got no mews. š
StarryniteTrist
03-15-2007, 10:42 PM
Fire is one of the best types, it in itself should be the only reason Chimchar gets the vote!
KoRnX19
03-15-2007, 11:39 PM
Fire is one of the best types, it in itself should be the only reason Chimchar gets the vote!
Right on, fire rules! š
Vaati
03-15-2007, 11:45 PM
Iāve always been a water fan so naturally I voted for piglup.
JoeBob
03-15-2007, 11:53 PM
I bet that if the games had come in the opposite order, and red and blue were just about to be released, people would be going, "You know theyāre running out of ideas when one of the starter pokemon is a lizard with a flower bud on its back!"
Itās Pokemon. How is a turtle with a leaf on its back at all out of place?
Bulbasaur wasnāt a lizard. Atleast those pokemon were original.
These ones are practically the same as the originals.
Red/Blue Fire starter: Lizard with fire on tail
Diamond/Pearl starter: Monkey with fire on tail
Red/Blue Leaf starter: Wierd thing with flower on its back
Pearl/Diamond Leaf starter: Turtle with leaf on its back
Red/Blue Water starter: Turtle
Diamond/Pearl Water starter: Penguin
Only the water starter is slightly original, thatās why i voted that one.
Xanthos
03-16-2007, 12:07 AM
Thereās a total of 493 pokemon. š
This is counting the new game, correct? From the advance games down, there are 389 I believe⦠Idk if you want to count the new ones yet seeing the games havenāt been released yet. But wow, theyāre releasing quite a few I see.
And with the help of transferrance from the advance games, we may actually be able to get all of them. Damnations upon the fact the DS doesnāt play GBC and GB games though⦠Iāve got hecka good guys on Gold.
Xanthos
03-16-2007, 12:12 AM
A monkey, a turtle, and a penguin. Bah⦠how lame. Why canāt they have cool starters like Charmander and Treeko? I hope they at least have good final forms, like Chikoritaās final form, Blazekin.
I guess they made those choices because the general populous thinks monkeys and penguins are all the rage. Idk about the turtle though⦠I donāt think any new turtles can top Blastoise.
Xanthos
03-16-2007, 12:14 AM
I hecka want Deoxys⦠if only there was an easy way to get the bastard.
So I guess thereās no way I can transfer over Mewtwo⦠dammit.
J. Peterman
03-16-2007, 01:30 AM
oh sorry frasier. unless you mean in red/blue (original) then i canāt give a mew. i donāt have a mew in any of the new ones. the farthest i can go is silver/gold/crystal. outside of that. i aināt got no mews. š
dang
Wattson
03-16-2007, 06:38 AM
I just beat pokemon ranger to get a manaphy egg to get a manaphy in diamond even though I probably will never use it that makes me kinda sad that I spent ~10 hours of my life doing this. š
StarryniteTrist
03-16-2007, 06:44 AM
Are you serious? It takes nearly 10 hours just for a Manaphy egg. I wonder how much will a trade be to get it.
J. Peterman
03-16-2007, 07:07 AM
3 musk i just left from pallet town and there is this weird girl following me around saying that i broke her bike so i ran off to the hoenn region and this loser boy named max showed off his pokenav and i broke it and he followed me so i went to the sinnoh region and then this girl name hikari said i broke her poke watch so i said man you people are all dumb and caught myself ho-oh so now i control all of the johto region
Wattson
03-16-2007, 07:52 AM
Are you serious? It takes nearly 10 hours just for a Manaphy egg. I wonder how much will a trade be to get it.
Iām sure you could do it in less time if you were good at the game. Although, Iām not bad at all and I did a few extra missions before doing the manaphy one but otherwise I was going straight to the goals.
Itās a pretty fun game, though, so I donāt regret the 10 hours.
But yeah, I imagine theyāll be one of the rare pokemons, so I guess it is good for trading.
Tact
03-16-2007, 09:03 AM
thereās no way you guys had as much trouble as me trying to get the evolution of the ugly bone fish. (i suddenly forgot everyoneās names now) the one where his location changes everytime you enter the map or something and heās only in like 6 or 7 tiles across all the water tiles.
holy hell he was a bitch! but his evolution is like the ONLY good looking water pokemon in all of the game. thatās why i went through the trouble. every other water pokemon looks retarted. -_-
or when i made 6 eevee eggs hatch so i can have an all eevee team. :p
J. Peterman
03-16-2007, 09:09 AM
tact my eevee evolved into a dialga true story
chewey
03-16-2007, 11:58 AM
thereās no way you guys had as much trouble as me trying to get the evolution of the ugly bone fish. (i suddenly forgot everyoneās names now) the one where his location changes everytime you enter the map or something and heās only in like 6 or 7 tiles across all the water tiles.
holy hell he was a bitch! but his evolution is like the ONLY good looking water pokemon in all of the game. thatās why i went through the trouble. every other water pokemon looks retarted. -_-
or when i made 6 eevee eggs hatch so i can have an all eevee team. :p
I have 20 or so eevee eggs.
They take FOREVER to hatch.
Zulu
03-16-2007, 06:11 PM
http://www.serebii.net/potw/evolution/Milotic.gif
Milotic? What a bitch-ass faggot. Seriously, no Pokļæ½mon should EVER be that hard to obtain. ><
Tact
03-16-2007, 09:37 PM
yah. thatās the one. thanks zulu. milotic. the good thing is they hatch way easier than eeveeās. but finding the feebas was a super son of a bitch struggle. lol
so i made sure i never had to fish for it again by getting one male and one female and i just make them make eggs all the time. (besides, starting a pokemon from lvl 5 is the only good way to get the strongest one)
the tricky part is making it evolve at lvl 5 cause of the beauty shit. and they need a specific personality. AND you need those fucking berries to make. wow. i canāt believe i even did it. lol
what really pisses me off though is my game has a glitch to where the berries i plant donāt grow trees no more? O_o and thatās just fucked up cause some berries are irreplacable.
KoRnX19
03-16-2007, 11:36 PM
I just beat pokemon ranger to get a manaphy egg to get a manaphy in diamond even though I probably will never use it that makes me kinda sad that I spent ~10 hours of my life doing this. š
By the way, how exactly do you get the Manaphy Egg in Pokemon Ranger since i would love to collect it since its so rare.
StarryniteTrist
03-17-2007, 06:11 AM
I remember in Gold and Silver i had a batch of many Eevee eggs because I wanted to get all the evolutions. It was so hard for umbreon and espeon. My brother always ended up with Umbreon while I ended up Espeon. I didnt really care too much for Umbreon. I never tried to get the milotic egg though.
Killa_7
03-17-2007, 01:26 PM
Another person that has been banned, I suspect that IDX rider and KORnX19 are the same person.
Hereās how you get feebas.
Find someone else who was enough of a sucker to go through the trouble of actually catching it, and who still knows where they get get it from. Get them to catch another one and trade it to you.
Itās really not THAT bad though. It just takes time. Itās not like itās hard. And itās pretty worth it for Milotic because Milotic is incredible. Through the roof special defense.
Though I still like Lapras way more.
Wattson
03-18-2007, 08:34 PM
By the way, how exactly do you get the Manaphy Egg in Pokemon Ranger since i would love to collect it since its so rare.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/code/929409.html
I have no idea how you get it from Ranger to D/P yet, though.
Sciz_Bisket
03-19-2007, 12:05 AM
i forgot where i planted all my berries on ruby. and now im out. so there really any other way to get any?
iceberg325
03-19-2007, 01:47 AM
Im going to get all the start pokemon. I like the penguin the most.
i forgot where i planted all my berries on ruby. and now im out. so there really any other way to get any?
nope. Youāll just have to look around at every berry location to find them.
JoeBob
03-22-2007, 08:53 AM
Idk about the turtle though⦠I donāt think any new turtles can top Blastoise.
Well, according to some, itās a āDinosaurā, but i donāt believe them. Itās quite obviously a turtle -_-;;
Blastoise is a loser. Iām thinkinā this new turtle will be way cooler.
fastidious percolator
03-22-2007, 07:54 PM
Blastoise is a loser. Iām thinkinā this new turtle will be way cooler.
Does the other one have a ~hydro cannon~?
Also, Iād go for the penguin, ācause ultimately, the last evolution form
LOOKS BITCHINā COOL TO ME

Zulu
03-22-2007, 09:15 PM
To be honest, Iād actually prefer Water Gun to Hydro Cannon. xD
Also, the only good thing about Blastoise is its Defense/Sp. Defense stat.
Tact
03-22-2007, 11:18 PM
Does the other one have a ~hydro cannon~?
Also, Iād go for the penguin, ācause ultimately, the last evolution form
LOOKS BITCHINā COOL TO ME

holy shit! thatās what i was trying to look for when this thread was first started. i couldnāt find all the evolutions of all the new starters.
at least you found the penguin and i gotta agree. that fucker looks badass.
iād still like to see the others so i can make a final descision.
I think it looks stupid. I might be taking the turtle afterall.
J. Peterman
03-23-2007, 01:44 AM
Pochama is good I think as the Pochama but once he evolves I donāt like him.
ChimChar and everything I just hate that whole entire line. And the names Monferno and Infernape really donāt make me want to choose that.
Turtwig I think has a decent looking evolution line but Pochama is a penguin and penguins are awesome so it is going to be a really hard choice between Pochama and Turtwig
Though to be honest the way Pochama looks it just seems to be a water Torchic IN HOW IT LOOKS TO ME
Though I think they should give like different types next time for fun like a Psychic evolution line instead of that freaking ChimChar nobody likes that monkey.
If I was a Pokemon Trainer in the Sinnoh region and had to start a journey that was being broadcasted throughout the world on television all the live long day I sure as heck wouldnāt choose a freaking ChimChar thatās for sure./
Wattson
03-23-2007, 05:38 AM
Zulu
03-23-2007, 01:54 PM
To be honest, I think all of their final evolutions look stupid. A tree on the back? Monkey with its hair on fire? Penguin⦠well, a penguin?
The penguin is easily the best until their final forms. At that point Iām pretty okay with the turtle. I donāt especially like any of these, but I have never especially liked any of the starters. Iād say these are probably the best ones since RBY.
Wattson
03-23-2007, 11:51 PM
Iād say theyāve been going down in quality since RBY overallā¦
Thatās right
I think this is the worst batch yet, though Naetle > Treecko fo sho.
Zulu
03-24-2007, 12:06 AM
Itās funny how the starters almost always end up the least popular ones (this doesnāt apply for the majority of fanboys and girls xD). People like the more obscure and overlooked Pokļæ½mon. And the Fire/Water/Grass thing has to go. Let us choose from a broader selection of Pokļæ½mon; non-evolutions or the such.
ironchefsanji
03-24-2007, 12:08 AM
While I agree that Fire/Water/Grass probably has to go I will say that in choosing a starter for this game I would pick the penguin. I love the water starter pokemon and I love penguins cuz theyāre cute, so itās win/win.
Wattson
03-24-2007, 12:35 AM
Iirc, the only other cycle like Fire>Grass>Water>Fire is a "physical" one⦠I think itās Fighting, Flying, and Ground maybe?
Zulu
03-24-2007, 12:57 AM
Thatās right, but it just feel so restrictive. Iād much rather prefer it if we were able to choose one starter, non-evolved Pokļæ½mon.
J. Peterman
03-24-2007, 01:22 AM
YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED TO ASH WHEN HE GOT A NON-STARTER POKEMON
I SURE WOULDnāT WANT A PIKACHU WHEN I CAN HAVE A CHARMANDER
Iād say theyāve been going down in quality since RBY overallā¦
Thatās right
I think this is the worst batch yet, though Naetle > Treecko fo sho.
You really think so? I mean, come on. The last batch was an ugly as shit lizard thing, a demented looking⦠whatever the hell Swampert even is, and a flaming karate chicken. It doesnāt get worse than Blaziken. It really doesnāt. Stupidest idea ever. For anything.
Tact
03-24-2007, 04:03 AM
wow. o_O i take back waht i said about starters looking stupider and stupider. i like the final evoās of ALL these new starters. especially the penguin and the turtle now. i like the second evo of the monkey. yus! (thank you gamefreaks for making them not totally gay no more! :D)
i think the worst batch ever is still ruby/sapph/green. worst ever. and i am never keeping any of them as my final team.
where as in silver, at least they had typlosion. then again. i always hated bulbasaur AND blastoise as well. :p so i guess i never did like all of them. always just one. but in sapph, it was the first time i didnāt like either. and in silver i thought "wellā¦might as well get this". i just want to relive thinking "oh yes! this one is for me!". isntead i always end up saying "well i guess iāll SETTLE with this one". -_-
but whatever. donāt matter no more. i actually like 2 out of the 3 this time. i think i might still go for penguin. damn. i canāt wait for this game to come out. iām gonna buy both at the same time. even if i donāt have 2 dsās. O_o
J. Peterman
03-24-2007, 04:28 AM
I WAS OKAY WITH HOW BLAZIKEN LOOKED BUT 2nd STAGE COMBUST CHICKEN MAN THAT IS QUEER
Wattson
03-24-2007, 04:46 AM
. It doesnāt get worse than Blaziken. It really doesnāt. Stupidest idea ever. For anything.
Oh really?
Have you seen this? (
)
I mean
<<<<<<< flaming chicken ANY day
Although, if we were to count all stages instead of just the final, I think I would say that d/pās are about equal with GSC.
Of course Iāve seen it. Itās less ridiculous. I think it looks dumb, sure, but itās a fire monkey; thatās not weird at all because this is Pokemon. A flaming karate chicken is just weird. I mean, okay, if you want a dual fire/fighting type, fine, but why would it ever be a chicken? See what Iām getting at? In fact it would make more sense if the fire monkey was the dual fire/fighting type. It would just be a firey Primape.
KoRnX19
03-24-2007, 07:39 AM
Another person that has been banned, I suspect that IDX rider and KORnX19 are the same person.
No Killa_7 we are not the same person. :eye:
KoRnX19
03-24-2007, 07:44 AM
I WAS OKAY WITH HOW BLAZIKEN LOOKED BUT 2nd STAGE COMBUST CHICKEN MAN THAT IS QUEER
:laugh:
By the way, i am pretty happy how this thread is doing, keep up the good work guys. š
StarryniteTrist
03-24-2007, 01:48 PM
I would take the flaming monkey over the chicken, though honestly, both are disappointing designs, but what can I sday it must have been so hard to think of something other than Charmander and Cydnaquil.