When it comes to best song…..I have to say……. it has to be the One-Winged Angels……… The first one was masterful…but it had the whole poor pronounced lyrics…….. The New one- A:OWA- is also freaking amazing…. the perfect blend between orchestra and rock music……it rules….
I like Nobuo…he has done the series proud……he has never lett us down when it comes to the music wee have all come to know, love, and respect…..
Hitoshi is good in his own way…..but you can’t help but wonder if FFXII would have been even better had Nobuo composed the scores for it…..to quote I believe either PSM or Game Informer magazine…."FFXII has a highly forgettable soundtrack"
IMO, Noriko Matsueda and Takahito Eguchi did a great job on X-2.
Still rofflin’.
Nobuo has pleased me with pretty much all the FF’s. I’ve only completed FF7 through X-2, and I pretty much love all the soundtracks.
Wouldn’t know about the latter, since we don’t have Final Fantasy 12 yet.
Also lollin Prak.
Seriously, don’t you have uber-important FF-club business to attend to? Like planning your next cosplay? How do you determine who gets to be Cloud? Wow, it must be stressful, being fifteen. However did we adults make it?
Masatsugu Shinozaki did the arrangement and Ririko Yamabuki did the lyrics.
When it comes to best song…..I have to say……. it has to be the One-Winged Angels………
I am sorry to say, but I think that your statement about One Winged Angel being the best song, is biased. Why? Well for one, you favor Sephiroth. Two, because you seem to go by who is more popular. Just because something is well known, doesn’t mean its always the best. Yes, Nobou Uematsu has wonderful composing skills. But comparing him to those lesser known on the FF music staff, is like people comparing Mozart to Danny Elfman. ( Really bad analogy, but at least it gets my point across.) It just doesn’t work, due to the fact that one is more popular then the other: and they both have different merits because of their styles.
to quote I believe either PSM or Game Informer magazine…."FFXII has a highly forgettable soundtrack"
PLEASE NOTE: Game magazines are geared towards what’s popular. ITS WHAT THEY ARE PAID TO DO.
And, if anything, FFXII’s music is one of the most memorable because it is much different then what majority of FF fans are used to. The melodies he creates for FXII are far more inspiring and are actually in tune with the games story/characters. And in my own opinion, Hitoshi has a certain flare to his arrangements that make his music more light hearted and uplifting, then that of Nobous works. I guess it all comes down to what your music tastes are.
As for who my favorite composer is: I truly have none. I love all of the music Square Enix creates. But, I’ll admit my most frequent selection is that of Uematsu, Shimomura, and Sakimoto. I’d make a list of tracks I enjoy, but it would take a milenia to finish. But, will say this: I just can’t stop listening to FF Tactics music. It never gets tiring.
Hitoshi, overall has produced what video game music was suppose to be like. Another element that makes you ever more sucked into the gaming experience, not a stand alone cd release song like Nobou does his styles.
Though you can’t really complain about Nobou, he was the one who inspired the Final Fantasy Piano Collections – Some of the best pieces on the piano ever. And who the hell didn’t cry when Aeris’ Theme came on as you see Aeris Die in FFVII? Well me for a start, but I do know somepeople who did cry!
VI is the best in this case because if go into a cave and play Phantom Forest, or a factory/packing plant and use Devil’s Lab, you never miss a beat.
I don’t have a personal favorite song, but Saying something like One-Winged Angel is the best is biased, because those people just masterbate to Sephiroth or do something equally dubious for their favor of the song. It’s okay, but FAR from the best.
I kinda just laughed and thought to myself… "Annoying, riiiiiiiight."
Also, more like, annoying is wrong. Oooooh, zing!
Explain plz, or is it because you like creepy stuff?
Yep, ’bout sums it up. I’m still searching for the name of that one track, though….-_-
You’re referring to "the bombing mission." I don’t like people comparing Uematsu to Shimomura. That girl’s a tone deaf hack to Uematsu. Her work is just quickly compiled theme music. Uematsu is known for his battle music that is meant to choreograph the real pain and difficulty of the battles. Take "the battle with the 4 fiends from ff4, or Hunter’s chance from ff9. The best Yoko Shimomura battle theme I’ve heard is the hard rock battle theme from Legend of mana. It’s Led Zeppelin vs. Treble Charger. The true legend will stand the test of time. I will only ever remember Shimomura for
1) Contributing a miniscule amount of work to the first front mission
2) A couple songs in Legend of Mana.
I’ve attached the legend of mana boss theme (remix) I was referring to because I don’t know the name of the song. Hopefully this clears things up.
Actually I found it, and it wasn’t called that….O.o It was called Mako Reactor (http://ffnemesis.com/media/soundtracks/ff7/disk1/1-03_Mako_Reactor.mp3)/ Probably the only FF song I really genuinely love. It’s soothing and quite pretty. I’m listening to it right now XP
Oh noes, I got the big misquote. :rolleyes: Anyway, now that I’m listening to "Mako Reactor," I’m pretty sure that you don’t have a clue on earth as to just what you’re talking about. As much as I bash on FFVIII, its music is way better than FFVII’s, especially a lackluster tune like "Mako Reactor." Funny how you gripe about repetition in FF music, when you brag on one of the most repetitive songs in FFVII, which doesn’t even boast a great soundtrack.
Repitition from one song to the next is horrible, but within the same piece can bring forth a sense of togetherness. It’s why songs have choruses, the same tune and words…to really bring it together. So repitition is a great thing if used wisely, as it is here. However, repeating things from one whole song to the next is a complete waste and very unoriginal.
Yeah, because all Final Fantasy music is repetition from one song to the next, except Mako Reactor because it’s totally exempt and it’s repetition is unique and different!
Righto, el capitano.
We’re on a Final Fantasy forum and you’re in a FF thread, get used to the topic.
Also, what would you consider "all" of them exactly, because I’m not buying it. Not to mention the fact that anyone with half a brain wouldn’t play an entire game series if they didn’t like it, let alone the music.
Roffle. Is this where "Pix or it didn’t happen" applies?
I really don’t care for VIII or IX the most cause they’re….flat…except I dig Zorn and Thorn’s theme, mostly because I luv those guys.
I haven’t played XII yet, but VIII and IX boast two of the better soundtracks in the series; VIII’s tunes are quite moody, and IX has several classics. You fault tracks like Vamo’ alla Flamenco without a real reason and put a dud like Mako Reactor up on a pedestal for "ambience"–that sort of thing sure makes it seem like you really haven’t a bloody clue what you’re talking about–"successful local musician" or not.
/agreed
There are many songs that are far more memorable and take a step off the typical soundtrack. Some other good ones are; Waltz For The Moon, To Zanarkand, Yuna’s Ballad, and not to mention the songs with lyrics that are all too easy to remember and appreciate; Eyes on Me, 1000 Words, Kiss Me Goodbye, etc.
I see. I thought you were referring to the theme that plays as soon as cloud departs the train at the beginning of the game. You think this is pretty? This is a profound example of how music can really set the scene. It feels so lifeless and desolate.
In reference to what you were laughing at Twilight;
Why are people who just want to rag on FF even here? It’s predominantly a Final Fantasy fan site. That’s like me hating Indian people, moving to India and then calling them down for it. There’s this huge, easily identified line between having an opinion, and being a fucking moron. For the love of god, do these people actually functional organs?
Though One Winged Angel is competing for the title!
Gosh! There are sooo many grate songs in the Final Fantasy games that it makes my head spin!
But I must admit Noubo Uematsu have slid dowhill after FFVII… :/
I prefer the music from Final fantasy adventure,
i can’t say which is the best music because i can’t get into details about the technical side of the music, but my favourites are loads of odd songs from most of the games.
I disliked most of ff8’s music (although the dollet mission is awesome imo)
I really liked ff6’s music, there aren’t any tracks that i didn’t like.
When it comes to best song…..I have to say……. it has to be the One-Winged Angels………
I am sorry to say, but I think that your statement about One Winged Angel being the best song, is biased. Why? Well for one, you favor Sephiroth.
Hehe… It�s quite weird to say that you favor Sephiroth because you like One Winged Angel… Fist of all it�s a rotten agument! 😛
Then if you read the lyrics you�ll see that the song is scorn. It points out Sephiroth�s fears and weaknes.
Latin:
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi
English:
Burning inside
With violent anger
Latin:
Sors – immanis
Et inanis
English:
Fate – monsterous
And empty
Well you can read it all here: http://www.ffshrine.org/ff7/ff7_lyrics.php
Peace out!
damn i wish my parents like Final Fantasy. No one understands me and my love for RPGs
Certain examples, in my mind, are Terra’s Theme, from Final Fantasy III/VI and Crossing Those Hills, from Final Fantasy IX.
Main opening and Revolt from Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Enemy attack, a Chapel, and Backfire from Final Fantasy Tactics
There are a few others but I don’t recall the names of those songs so I will have to listen to my song libary again.
I’ll be honest though, I like both Hitoshi’s and Nobuo’s work as composers. I have no one favorite song or composer though I have many that I enjoy listening to more than others. What matters is that the music complements the game and help sets the mood so you get drawn into the story, and both composers have done that for me so far. So, I have no complaints.
Note: Though Hitoshi did compose the music to FFXII, I thought that Nobuo did contribute somewhat to the FFXII soundtrack since he was originally supposed to be the composer. Am I wrong?
‘Course, this is probably gonna be the case. Nobuo himself said he doesn’t care much for SE and its lack of Dreams nowadays.
Sakimoto is pretty good. I’ll of course always like Uematsu better, but. Really, the only reason FFXII’s soundtrack was blasphemously horrendous is that it was rendered in the same generation as Vagrant Story’s which, while it was good for its time, is technology that was more than half a decade old by the release of FFXII.
Final Fantasy X’s was different, but I didn’t enjoy it. Blue Dragon’s feels like an expansion on the frenzied synth overlay present in Force Your Way, the boss theme of Final Fantasy VIII; I was less than impressed.
Sakimoto’s worst work was, in my opinion, probably Final Fantasy XII — and it’s funny, because I like Hitoshi Sakimoto and I like the kind of music it is, but it compositionally lacks the flair to triumph over its equally unimpressive synth-orchestra fascade. It’s a buffet in one flavor, and the food itself is no good.
On the other hand, he’s done well with Dragon Quarter, Stella Deus and Final Fantasy Tactics, all of which meet greater success within his own style. They’re appropriate in the context of their own games without becoming atmospheric fodder, and that’s something to be proud of.
FFX-2!?! You think the best is in FFX-2!?
Do yourself a favour and play Every Final Fantasy game because that game is vulcan horrible in every way.
The problem with categorizing the best song is that Uematsu probes so many different musical genres during the expansive FF series.
Take for instance man with the machine gun from FF8, clearly designed to be a trance track but with a more orchestral feeling.
Final Fantasy 4 had an incredible soundtrack. The battle with the 4 elemental bosses was awesome. It captured the horror of the battle as well as the ups and downs of it.
I think those are my favourite, but there’s so many others.
There was a track called Reunion from FF7…it was played during this one part in the final cave. It was a depressing reflection song, but it was amazing.
LIES (http://chudahs-corner.com/soundtracks/index.php?catalog=AVCD-30485) "Sleeping Thoughts" is Paine’s Theme with more real synthesis and a vocal.
Those songs you mentioned are signature themes, that’s why, and yes, it’s because everyone knows them. When you think "Final Fantasy music"–be honest, now–do you sooner think "Aeris’ Theme" or "Zidane’s Theme," the latter of which, no matter how much I love it, really only plays once in the entire game?
IMO, Noriko Matsueda and Takahito Eguchi did a great job on X-2.
XD
It’s pretty hard to stay inspired when you have to write so many songs for a single game. (He did that for the first few Fantasy games, if I remember correctly.) You have to be extremely creative to do that.
Anyway… My favorite songs from him come from a whole slew of games.
Matoya’s Cave (Final Fantasy I)
The Dreadful Fight/Battle with the Four Fiends (Final Fantasy IV)
The Final Battle/Zeromus (Final Fantasy IV)
Battle with Gilgamesh/Clash on the Big Bridge (Final Fantasy V)
The Decisive Battle (Final Fantasy VI)
Vamo’ Alla Flamenco (Final Fantasy IX)
To Zanarkand (Final Fantasy X)
Winning the Rainbow (=P) (Black Mages II – The Skies Above)
Yeah, those are probably some of Nobuo’s better songs (If I dare say that…). Not all of his songs are great, but he has written so many amazing songs that you shouldn’t put him down just because he isn’t perfect. I like that he changes the style of his songs. Within my small (considering how many songs he has written) selection of favorite songs from him, the music genre still skips around.
FF4 was the birth of Final Fantasy’s main theme which was played during the final battle when Golbez finally accepts Cecil as his brother and entrusts him with the crystal. The FF4 Final battle was so much more decisive and memorable than the FF6 one. Granted, dancing mad is one of the greatest songs ever…it hits so hard and fits that cross dresser perfectly.
just think of the OST of FFX-2!!! if I listen to the theme of Luca from FFX
and then to the same of FFX-2….aaaargh!
BUT then I heard the soundtrack of FFXII….hilarious! at least most of the tracks
are more than good. my favorite song from Hitoshi Sakimoto is definetely
the "Ending Movie"-music. I also like "The Royal City of Rabanastre" and
"Dalmasca Estersands" very much.
"Balamb Garden" and "Fisherman’s Horizon" are great works of Nobuo.
I can’t say whom of them is better, but I think Nobuo couldn’t have done
it better.
just one more thing:
when I heard the Barheim Passage music (or at least I think it was Barheim, but it was definetely
a dungeon) I thought, `hmm, where do I know this music from`, the songs from Sakimoto for dungeons
are very similiar. just think of the music in Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter! that’s Sakimotos style!
well, that’s all I can say. both are great in their own way.
and people who say, FF-music is annoying or stuff like that, they just don’t know what good music is!
The most memorable one will always be FF4. And not the gameboy advance version. That version took out a lot of important deaths.
Ah the wrath of tellah’s staff. I always wish he would have killed Edward in this scene…
The US version was called FF II.
First RPG I ever beat. Good times.
With exceptions like Joe Hisaishi.
Anyway, that brings me into my point in Sakimoto vs. Uematsu. I believe that Uematsu is much better, and not because he is more popular. I enjoyed Sakimoto’s work in Final Fantasy Tactics, but Final Fantasy 12’s was largely forgettable to me.
Reason #1: Every song throughout the game had the same feel to it. Same instrumentation, same style, same everything basically. I suppose the game being set in a medieval setting like that makes it fitting, but it all runs together after awhile. I’ve made it to the Stilshrine of Miriam so far and I can only remember three of the tracks: Rabanastre, Rabanastre Lowtown, and the boss battle theme. In a typical RPG soundtrack, I would definitely remember a hell of a lot more than three. That’s not even to say those are the only ones I liked, those are just the only ones so far that have really stood out for me.
Reason #2: There doesn’t seem to be a central recurring melody, a "Main Theme" that is present in several places throughout the soundtrack. I feel that this is necessary to make the soundtrack feel like one work as opposed to just a bunch of random songs.
FF6 had the melody from Terra’s Theme (Also in "Awakening" and "Metamorphosis").
FF7 had the main theme on the overworld (Also in "Holding My Thoughts in My Head", "Who Am I", "Highwind Takes to the Skies", etc.), Sephiroth’s Theme (also in "Birth of a God" and "One-Winged Angel")
FF8 had Balamb Garden (Also in "Ami" and "Where I Belong"), Eyes On Me (Also in "Julia") and A Sacrifice (Also in "Succession of Witches" and "The Successor")
Same thing in 9 and 10, but I’m sure you get the picture. If there was a central theme throughout FF12, it must not be very memorable because I sure haven’t noticed it.
That said, I am not denying Sakimoto’s talents as a composer. FF12’s soundtrack is just far from his best work IMO. His work in Tactics is great.
Anyway, guess I’ll mention some favorites now that I’ve ranted on and on forever.
FF1: "Matoya’s Cavern"
FF4: "Battle 2", "Theme of Love"
FF5: "Musica Machina", "Reina’s Theme"
FF6: "Awakening", "Terra", "Gau" <<Funny how such a goofy character had a theme song like this
FF7: "Jenova", "Highwind Takes to the Skies", "Hurry!!"
FF8: "Man With the Machine Gun", "Never Look Back", "Only a Plank Between One and Perdition"
FF9: "Immoral Melody", "Vivi’s Theme"
FF10: "Run!!", "Yuna’s Theme", "Challenge"
FF12: "Rabanastre Lowtown"
FF Tactics: "Holy Angelica’s Theme Deluxe", "Ovelia’s Worries"