GoodMusician
08-24-2011, 04:01 PM
So with the recent leak of the King Kong recording sessions, I feel I can now release the set I've been working on as of late along with everything I learned.

Here is the track list of my set once I upload it:

Decided I had a moment to upload this. Dunno how long the links will last. This is now taken from a lossless source which had since my first post leaked.


Disc 1 (https://mega.nz/#!HZ1zWART!4L922Trfl6rJT9QA1MS1t9cFjNqMY9UtIJlBsOEOFjE)



Disc 2 (https://mega.nz/#!Ld8ngKpA!OwKytq6XrRjpH9XTSmM0qsis6VGmR8mt5SZF4-PLhk0)



Disc 3 (https://mega.nz/#!nAlgzAJA!mjIIRKXXyiDjPS4dHeGioyYhY4LAdhEO8-L56MCgfe0)



Disc 4 (https://mega.nz/#!SQszHQ4Y!pg0psxe7Ht7NX7C7CGAARNRbnqPV3KC9xPiMl6Sqhn0)






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Firstly, there are a few differences between the album, the film, and the recording sessions. Simply because they are the "recording sessions" does not make them the end all be all of all the material. The expediency of the recording process for this film, plus the numerous version numbers of every track would make a complete catalog almost impossible and as such, certain versions are left off or neglected from the 3 CD RS. Lets first talk about what's still unavailable.

Almost every cue went through various version numbers. Only one or perhaps two (and in some cases we were lucky and got three) versions are presented on the RS or the album. Thus, many of the changes to the score are unknown.

Also, neither source song is released (licencing reasons no doubt). They are:

"Sitting on Top of the World - Al Jolson (1947 recording)"
"Bye Bye Blackbird - Peggy Lee"

Whats Missing:

1) The full version of 'Carl Steals Footage [1m6 v4]" as there are a few bars omitted
2) Bruce and Jimmy [2m8B] - The full mix (which includes a timpani roll and strings layered under the string bass) isn't presented on the RS but is available via DVD rip.
3) Marie's Wedding (Dance Source) - The unused dance song presented on the DVD extras
4) Native Attack [4m2] - Film alternate which is a lot more synth driven
5) Saved by the Crew [4m3A] - Film mix (again, more synth driven
6) Sacrifice [4m6] - Film version
7) Kong Runs [4m9] - Film Mix
8) Jawbreaker [6m5] PI - PII Part I is heard in the special features of the DVD but part II is missing. This is the original cue for Kong Killing the final rex.
9) Dead Crew Members [6m6 v5 Pt II] - Presented on the RS is the 'true' mix of this cue with insect synth but the film mix is merely the synth choir and to hear that by itself would be amazing.
10) Beauty Killed the Beast (Pt IV Alt) - The alternate is on the RS but without the full mix of the boys choir.

As you can see, not a whole lot is missing. Most is either source cue, or is presented in some fashion on the RS but not the final film mix.

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Here's a break down, cue by cue, of what we have and explaining each cue:

[1m1] Opening v3 (King Kong Main Title) - This is available on both the album (in compressed and muddled quality) and on the RS. This is v3 of the main titles written by JNH. Versions 1-2 are unknown.
Two take are presented on the RS
1) The Film Version (with diminished choir)
2) An alternate mix of the same cue but with louder choir.

[1m1S] Song Intro (I'm Sitting on Top of the Word) - This is only available on the RS and is a solo piano opening meant to replace the more elaborate real opening of this song. Only the first few bars are recorded and presented here. Listening carefully you can hear the recording pop on and play in the background to keep the pianist in time. In the final film, this recording is "aged" to make it sound more 1930's to match the source cue.
The song is not presented on the sets.

[1m2] Ann & Manny v3 - Presented on the album, this cue is on the RS in its fully as recorded version (including a large gap between the first and second half of the cue which is written in the music.

[1m3] Ann & Weston v3- This cue was recorded in two sessions and are presented on the RS merged as one final mix. The two sessions are the "Band" session, and the "orchestra" session. This allowed for control over the mixing of the jazz elements in the opening of this cue.

[1m4] Viewing Footage (Blake's Insert) v2 - There are two versions of this cue and the sheet music calls this version simply "Blake's Insert" and not "Viewing Footage." Blake Neely is a composer and orchestrator who helped JNH write and arrange the music for the film. The difference in versions seems to almost be in where to play out the comedy. Version 1 has more pizzicato and quick eighth notes in the middle section where version two has long drawn out strings. Version 1 then goes into the same section as what Version 2 would have just played and repeats it once, then moving into it's own humorous section of clarinets, bassoons and string doubling. Perhaps a difference in opinion over where the music should start is what led to Version 2, an obvious superior to the first.

[1m5] The Map v2 - A pretty straight forward piece almost echoing the main titles but with heavier synth.

[1m6] Carl Steals Footage v4(?) - This cue is broken into two sections. The first is not presented on the album and for some reason is also not recorded as written. The final wind line is repeated in the conductors score of v4 but is not recorded. Different version numbers of cues a lot of times denote small changes to whats written so it is also possible that this is a later version than four.

Part 2 of this cue is presented on the album in the original v4 iteration. Small inserts were written for the cue and were recorded and thus, we have three different versions of part II of this cue.
1) The version heard on the album
2) Take 11 of the version heard on the album (the same but just a different take)
3) Take 14 which includes 1m6 Insert which replaces the opening bars of the cue. This version is nearly identical to the album but it starts in a different key and then travels back into the orriginal key
4) Take 25 which includes 1m6 New Insert which is a more comical opening with an almost cartooney feel.

[1m7] Carl Finds Ann v1 - A very straightforward cue, which is a near lift from the second half of "Ann & Manny" excepting the string ending as Ann is caught stealing.

[2m1] Carl Convinces Ann v6 - A pretty comedic piece, this particular cue went through six versions but comparing v2 to v6, the main difference is where the cue begins in the film. A full twenty measures have been inserted before the cue as written in v2 begins with the only real alteration after that being a transition of the main melody to clarinets from piano. The finale of the cue is also timed slightly differently and voiced across the strings in a slightly different manner.

[2m2] Venture - Ann onto Boat - This cue went through quite a few iterations before what we hear in the film and the great thing about the RS is we are presented with three different versions of this cue (with small changes). Originally it was two cues [2m2] Venture, and [2m3] Ann onto Boat, which is why you will notice a skip in the slate numbers.

Following the formula for most of the other major adjustments, the changes in this pivotal scene seem to be changes mainly in orchestration. The opening bars in Version 3-6 of �Venture� oscillate back and fourth using the island/adventure motif. Ominous low strings carry the piece until a bright reveal of �men in uniform� are coming to seize Carl. Two harp glissando's lead to tense low strings and the tempo immediately picks up as Carl decides it is time to go. Version 3 places the jazzy New York melody moving line in the violins instead of the celli who are in this instance just chording until the end of the piece just before Ann steps on board (originally that was another cue) and fading out on a low doubled bass and celli note.

�Ann Steps on Board [2m3 v3]� would then follow (but is not presented in this set) with a descending eighth-note line through the winds and strings with horn and bass underpinnings. The eighth-notes would then switch into sixteenth-notes while tense strings would build as Ann approached the loading area, hand nervously reaching for the rail until finally giving way to the Island/Adventure theme which plays triumphantly as she boards.

The change by Version 6 saw the combination of the two cues utilizing the jazzy New York melody played over the celli instead of violins, allowing the strings and winds to play a percussive eighth-note rhythm until ominous strings switch off the jazz New York melody line to violins and winds who play innocently and naively as Ann professes her readiness for the voyage. The strings finally release their tension in a eighth-note rhythm across the orchestra as Carl tries to save Ann from being scared further. Winds flutter tongue over the percussive beat again as Violins take center stage, molding into tense strings as the pre-existing finale from Ann Steps on Board [2m3 v3] plays triumphantly.

[2m2 Version 7 Bars 1-8 Insert] would finally change the opening 8 bars of the piece from a slightly awkward oscillating pattern into a proud statement of the jazzy New York motif over percussive strings and winds. Celli eventually layer in the oscillation patter and merge back into the piece as the orchestra crescendo's at the reveal of the �motion picture ship.� A final change would be in the low strings which play as Carl is informed of the police approach. The percussive eighth-note beat utilized later is first introduced in the violas and the meter of the low celli changes from 4/4 to half time and returning back to 3/4 for two measures. This would be the biggest change past combining the two cues. Most changes to this segment were small and basically changing orchestrations or note lengths.

In all, we have three versions presented (although there were many before this not presented).

1) V6 begins with the low string rocking back and fourth slowly over the adventure motif.
2) V7 begins with all the strings (high and low) rocking back and fourth over the adventure motif in a much more full version than V6.
3) V7 with 2m2 New Intro Insert - This is the final film version where the opening has been replaced with the orchestra playing the "New York" jazz motif dramatically before transitioning into the adventure motif.


[2m4A] Pre-Delaying Jack - Another example of how quickly things can change and spotting sessions might leave out opportunities that didn't seem apparent before, this cue was no doubt a latter decision. Decided upon after the following cue �Delaying Jack [2m4]� was written, this �intro� both utilizes it's name and places an �A� at the end of the slate number signifying it should go before �Delaying Jack,� as its title also suggests. Had it been intended initially, it would have simply been a part of the next cue and thus, we can tell this decision was made later on.

Oddly enough, since [2m3] was merged into [2m2], one might ask why he didn't simply steal that slate number but perhaps it was added after the spotting session but not before they had merged. Because of these reasons, the slate number [2m3] is skipped.

A simple and short percussive string insert, this cues main purpose was to begin the next cue a few moments earlier, highlighting the tension Carl feels realizing that he may still get away, but that he lacks a complete script. A scheme begins to develop in his mind to keep Jack on board and force him to finish the script. Tense strings crescendo over the three eighth-note beats while low strings tremolo preparing the audience for the next cue.

[2m4 v3] Delaying Jack - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the film.

[2m5 v3] Boat Leaves Harbour - This particular cue has only a slight difference compared to it's written score in that the first measure in all the low strings, brass, and timpani is repeated and a crescendo is created by doing so. Perhaps a decision made on the spot at the podium, this small addition adds a very nice breath to the opening of the cue as we see the ship leaving New York, the adventure/island theme playing mysteriously as our adventure begins. (Also, whoever names the cues has a bit of an English flair heh)

[2m6A v4] Bruce Hangs Poster - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[2m6B v4] Jimmy - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[2m7 v2] Ann Rehearses in Mirror - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[2m8A v7] Ann Meets Jack - In the film, the finale of this cue is slightly different. Comparing it to the recording, I'm nearly certain it's a version made artificially by editing out a small segment of the pizzicato low strings and looping in a small segment from about [01:00] in the cue to replace the end as written but it is possible that it's a later version than v7.

[2m8B v8] Bruce and Jimmy - Another instance of how small differences in technique change the overall product, this particular cue has an interesting story. Initially comparing this cue to the conductors score, two things are immediately apparent. The first of which is the missing two bar intro of solo ride cymbol and swing bass, and the second piece of the puzzle, the orchestra is missing during the entire middle section of the recording. The change in performance for the first two bars could simply be a new edit or a decision made at the podium as the overall effect is merely to shorten time (as the film also edits the length of the end of the cue).

The second difference is a bit more staggering. After about [00:10], the entire orchestra drops out for ten seconds leaving only the swing bass. The reason for this is not as simple to guess. One possibility is that the orchestra in this section was recorded separately or that this even was an earlier version of the cue. Conversely, this might even be an alternate mix that had been desired at one point, but was decided against.

The missing orchestra is predominately the rolling timpani for the pull in shot of Bruce Baxter and the tremolo strings accenting the zoom in on each poster. The final string tremolo is also shorter in the final film but this could be an editing decision. Overall, no easy answer, but some intriguing possibilities.

My set presents the cue as written with the timpani rolls and string stings.

[2m9 v4] Jimmy Overhears - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[2m10 v10] Filming on the Boat - Ann Meets Jack (Blake Insert) - The RS presents this cue three times, each with a gradually different emotion.


1) Take 279 - This is perhaps my favourite mix as the opening string after the slightly muted fanfare are layered so lusciously with the winds. Obviously one of the first takes as instrumental layers, mixing, and performance gradually move away from this version.
3) Take 281 - The solo Horn line is played more robustly with the wind/string layering being more string focused.
3) The Final Film Take - The Horns play much more triumphantly, sticking with the string centric mixing and the subtraction of wind counter-melodies.

Comparing Version 5 to Version 10 of this cue, it would seem this cue went through some of the greatest revisions. Presented here are three near identical takes of the same version (version 10). The intro changed very little (despite the horns still managing not to 'sound' at the same time), but after the second portion of the cue which presents again the smooth jazz melody for Bruce, the rest of the cue changes dramatically.

Unfortunately no original version 5 was presented so this true 'alternate' is unheard but what it develops into by version 10 is one of the most beautiful cues in the film.

The opening of this cue mimics the Steiner sound of the 30's meant to imitate what the filming of Bruce and Ann would have been like finished. Small variations in performance such as the dynamics of the winds, the horns, and the addition or subtraction of counter melodies in the winds vary between the takes (ultimately moving further away from the counter melodies and with the winds being very diminished in the opening.

[3m1 v2] The Crew is Nervous - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[3m2] Montage - The only leaked conductors score for �Montage [3m2]� is version 9 which has a nearly identical opening to the final film version (excepting harp doubling of the low strings) but differs greatly through the middle of the cue, having had bars 9 through 25 replaced in the final film take. Version 9 is a bit more dramatic in its changes between the A and B sections of the Island/ Adventure motif, handing it off between strings and winds. Small vibraphone accents are also omitted in the final mix but would have added an amazing ambiance to the overall tropical/adventure sound.

What this says about the RS and the collection of conductors scores that leaked is that even though this may have been the final version of the cue written, the recording presented may have been an older version. Or, conversely, the recording may be a version of the cue AFTER Version 9. There is no way to know but it does highlight the difficulty with these sessions as certain cues aren't fully mixed yet and some are the wrong versions of cues or lack the final film alterations. How exactly these all changed may never be known but what we have learned is that the score to the film kept changing to the final second of recording time.

Another possibility is that this sequence continued to change. Certain elements that were recorded for the purposes of fleshing out the characters were dropped but make small appearances in the montage. The inability to settle on a final montage edit may have led to the numerous versions.

[3m3 v2] There are No Stars - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.


[3m4 v3] Wall - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[3m5A] Breach - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film (with the exception of the opening having been dialed out in the final mix.

(Forgot about this one!)
[#mS] Marie's Wedding - This source cue was recorded for an unused dance scene on the ship. Snippets are shown in the montage sequence and the making of features rehearsals for this throughout but ultimately, the scene was not used. The recording is not presented anywhere except as a deleted scene and rips easily but not entirely cleanly.

The recording for this was necessary before shooting the scene began so it was, no doubt, recorded before any other music was recorded for the film (even before the Howard Shore sessions).
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[3m5B] Skull Island - This cue is presented three times on the RS, listing two as alternates. As with most cues from this recording session, they are not true 'alternates' but are rather, alternate takes of cues with only subtle differences.

1) Skull Island (Alternate Take I) This original take is the best in regards to the trumpets performance but not the best in regards to the Horn's performances (as one blasts a muted note a bit too loudly). This performance also lacks the Choir Overlay.
2) Skull Island (Alternate Take II) This second alternate take has the trombones much heavier mixed in the opening ominously but has a slightly off trumpet and violins that aren't quite together. The Choir is mixed into this take, albeit quietly.
3) Skull Island (Film Alternate Take) This final take is similar to the first in that it lacks a trombone undertone in the opening, but has much stronger and more together performances by the rest of the orchestra (possibly because of the decision to use a click track in this take). The choir is also overlayed much more prominently and it is this final take that is used in the film.

[3m6 v7] The Village - Studying the conductors score to this cue version, it would seem a lot of additional doubling was added latter on. Version 6 was not quite as lush as this final version 7 (which would later feature in both the credits and be copied nearly note for note in the scene as Jack decides to find Ann on his own).

Oddly enough, twelve empty measures exist after the final crescendo in this recording. JNH often left places for the synth performers to adlib and fill and this would seem to be one of those instances. No recording of what they came up with is released and it is possible that the synth extension was decided against.

[4m1 v3] The Natives - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the film.

[4m2 v3] Native Attack (Unused Alternate) - This very impressive orchestral alternate to the "Native Attack" sequence is presented on the RS but is not used in the film. The only segment of this cue to be utilized at all is a small portion of the middle which has the "Kong Appears" motif which is tracked to the end of the film version of "Kong Runs." It is truly something to be heard.

Obviously opting for something far more alien, the producers decided to do something more shocking/frightening and use a more synth driven cue. The film version utilizes new orchestral recordings and is obviously a later version than this Version 3 presented on the RS. What the number is, the conductors score, or any other information is limited to only what is heard in the film.

Mixing percussive hits, ethnic instruments and groans with the chanting of the Natives creates a chilling ambiance. The sounds used here and utilized again during the sacrifice sequence and lends a connection between the two necessary to build the frightening horror and fear of these "people."

[4m3A v2] Saved by the Crew - Picking up immediately after the first shot is fired, this cue brings the team back aboard the frantic Venture as it tries to lighten its load to leave. The full version of this cue is presented on the RS but differs slightly from the film version.

The film version replaces the a segment near the middle with a more relaxed piece tracked from "Hero's Don't Look Like Me," possibly to build a connection between the two scenes of Carl dedicating the film and proceeds to those lost on the adventure. The scene also appears to be extended slightly which may have necessitated this addition.

The film mix also lacks some of the strong orchestral hits as Ann senses her captors coming to retrieve her. Snyth overlays take a stronger role, therefore, in this segment, continuing to build this connection between the cold, almost alien people of Skull Island with the synth sound. This difference, however is a mixing choice and, like the edit earlier in the cue, is not a true alternate but one made in post production.

[4m3B v4] Ann is Kidnapped - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the film. This cue in particular is utilized several times, almost directly lifted, in the escape from the island and other action moments.

[4m4 Pt I] Sacrifice - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the film.

[4m5 v4] Arming the Crew - This short cue interrupts the two similar Sacrifice sequences with a quick action piece as the group prepares to retried the kidnapped Ann.

[4m6 v2] Sacrifice - This particular cue is presented on the album as the percussion track written by James Newton Howard. The cue consists of at least three layers: percussion track, synth, and orchestral overlays.

This cue, however, is not utilized in the film opting instead for a more snythetic, alien ambiance with an entirely different percussive track. The finale of the film version does return to the RS version so perhaps the film version is simply the next "version number" of this piece.

[4m7 v4] Kong Appears - The first cue James Newton Howard wrote for this score, this cue builds the tension and eventual reveal of Kong himself. Kong's main motif (mostly used when he's angry) is first played here as well as his 'descending chords.' Broken by the arrival of the boats crew to save Ann, the cue goes very frantic only to quote in the strings the journey/island motif. Synth ambiance balances out the reveal of Kong to Carl of "Something monstrous, neither beast, nor man."

[4m8 v1] Trek to Save Ann - Utilizing a near direct lift of "Skull Island," we are treated with a more powerful if not mournful performance of the Island/Journey theme with choir quietly layered underneath. Kong's descending motif closes the cue.

[4m9] Kong Runs - A heavily synth and percussive cue, this piece lays only partially realized in the film. Opting for bringing the percussion in about halfway through the cue, the film version of this cue starts with isolated synth, pulling in the percussion to bring the cue up another energy level to then give way to the recorded orchestral layer as Kong mis-handles Ann, who escapes his grasp momentarily.

[4m10] Crew in Boneyard - The conductor score released for this cue differs greatly from the version on the RS which matches that used in the film. The differences seem to be in timing of certain swells and placement of the music but is not an entirely different cue.

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(Disc 2)


[5m1 v5] Footprint - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the film.

[5m2 v7] Stampede - Perhaps one of the best action cues, this piece reminds me of a John Williams action set piece. There are great moments that could almost work in a Jurassic Park/ Star Wars scene. Setting the piece in a 5 beat meter gives lends the cue a very off kilter jog to it by creating the usual 4 beat measure aided by a push into the first beat of the next measure. Truly a brilliant action piece.

[5m3 v2] Raptors - Introducing us to the first menacing turns through the lows strings and brass with sudden staccato brass hits, this show cue only gives us a taste of whats to come with this dangerous carnivore motif.

[5m4 v1] Heroes Don't Look Like Me - After twelve bars of synth ambiance, the cue builds a sorrowfully rousing melody as Carl tries to make the situation. Bruce decides he has had enough adventure and, with a slow muted rendition of his 'jazz motif' he leaves the group for the safety of the boat to a depression rendition of the 'journey/island' theme.

[5m5A v16 Pt I] Ann Tries to Escape - Borrowing heavily from "Kong Appears," this opening of short musical sequence of Ann truly getting to interact with Kong himself builds on the menace that we feel for Kong and his anger. The cue subsides a little as she builds her plan to calm the beast.

This version differs slightly from the later iteration of v18 in small ways. One such change is the removal of a wind solo near the end of the cue which otherwise would is used to build into the final beat, opting instead for a "surprise" drop.

[5m5A v16 Pt II] Ann Tries to Escape - Continuning where the end of the last cue left off, v16 uses the harp as a means to convey tension and mystery. Most of the cue lacks the harp excepting in quieter moments near the opening. Eventually the cue moves into the familiar New York jazz theme as Ann begins to get braver in her entertainment attempts.

Half of this cue is unused in the film, perhaps to keep the sequence from seeming too forced and allowing it to be more organic.

Version 18 of this cue, however, includes the harp nearly throughout the entire cue, keeping a steady sense of tension and mystery. As the melody begins to play, no further interruptions are introduced and instead the melody plays undisturbed until the end of this part of the Cue.

[5m5A v14 Pt III] Ann Tries to Escape - This final step of the cue builds off the 'New York Jazz' motif as Ann attempts to entertain Kong, the humor in this sequence allowed to come through.

The ending of this version of the cue differs from the later version 18 in that it leaves the 'New York Motif' in favour of a more tense, string tremolo and horn chord until the final col lingo hit for the finale.

Version 18 would replace this tense moment with a continuation of the humorous New York motif until the final col lingo hit. Two takes of version 18 are presented on the RS with one being the final corrected take and the other (take 878) being flubbed by the low brass who are off a beat until the very end (playing even after the final hit).

[5m5B] Ruins - A quiet cue that begins to showcase the Kong/ Ann four note motif, moves into a choir sustain over synth ambiance. (The oddest thing about this cue is I swear I can hear crickets in the background near the end, quietly chirping).

[5m6 v3] Crew Finds Kong Log - The now familiar opening of synth continues in this cue until a direct lift from "Jimmy" cue opens this moment as the crew finds a fallen tree, a means to travel across a deep ravine. The cue moves into a more synth driven middle section until the brass and string bumps give way to string tremolo and Kong appears.

Sorrowful choir and strings sing as the enraged Kong throws Hayes to his death in the pit. An amalgamation of the King Kong descending motif and the strained cry of the journey/island theme vie for attention with a small nod to the original Kong motif as the orchestra and choir sing descending chords until the final landing.


[6m1 v14] Lizards - This cue matches the sheet music almost exactly excluding the winds at the end. It's possible that this is a later version than 14 or the winds were simply overlayed.

[6m2 v2] T-Rex & Ann - The first big cue utilizing the carnivore motif as Ann is chased by the "V-Rex" through the jungle. This cue matches the sheet music up until the very end where the uneasy string chords give way to a more relaxed ending which is almost literally two notes.

[6m3 Pt I - 6m3 Pt II] T Rex & Kong Fight - The long awaited battle between the rexs and Kong comes to fruition at last in this incredible action cue utilizing both theclimbing Kong motif and the triumphant Kong motif. The most interesting thing about this sequence, the opening sequence, and the ending is how each borrows from the other and there is an obvious progression between the three as JNH frantically wrote music for this film causing many similarities if not direct lifts to be carried over.

[6m4 v6] Vines - The carnivore motif comes out strongly again in this short insert of a cue almost as a direct lift from "Raptors"

[6m5 v6 (Choir Mix)] Jawbreaker Pt I & Pt II - Presented on the RS is the final film version of this cue which utilizes a great deal of material explored later in the finale of the film.

Version 4 of this cue has a similar opening but instead jumps to a frantic, percussive build until the final chords which would transition between the journey motif and climbing Kong motif. The quiet, touching finale of both Jawbreaker Pt II v4 and the second half of Jawbreaker Pt II v6 are the same.

[6m6 v5 PtI] Dead Crew Members - Both part I and II of this cue are truly the same but due to how the post production done on the music has changed the over all effect of the orchestral sound and merged it with that of synth, it was necessary to isolate the first 43 measures at part one and measure 44 to the end (the choir section) as another part.

[6m6 v5 PtI] Dead Crew Members - This is the isolated choir segment of this cue which contains a heavy mix of synth. This heavy load of bug synth detracts from the music but is an official mixing of the cue as it is heard in certain making of features. It does not represent what it heard in the film (isolated choir) and unfortunately, that choir does not easily rip which is a real pity.

[6m7] Beautiful - The only released conductors score to this cue is unfinished and thus the final version is unknown but as the title says, this cue is truly 'Beautiful.' Borrowing heavily from what would be used later in the film during the touching moments atop the Empire State, this cue begins to showcase the love the 'beast' shows for Ann.

[7m1 v4 w/ New Ending] Carl Gets Idea - This cue is another cut and paste job from "The Crew is Nervous" with a shortened reprise of the "main titles" lacking a melodic line (which is marked as 'cue' on the sheet music) to only then play the journey motif proudly and fade out.

[7m3 v1] Kongs Arms - Steady strings lay the bed for this quiet cue utilizing the Love for Ann 4 note motif. Similar versions of this cue are echoed through the score but with different wind voicing.

[7m4 v6] Jack in Graveyard - Extended technique strings and harmonics build an eerie air to the opening of this cue. A steady bass drum lends an almost heart-beat to the cue as Jack travels to where Ann lies asleep in the 'beasts' arms. Magical synth, winds, and strings lend a majesty to the tension as Jack quietly approaches Ann, attempting to wake her. Upon waking, a sorrowful melody (used later in choir at Kong's death) plays in the strings as Ann realizes the last thing she ever expected to see stood before her. Jack and Ann reach for each-other and the music ends abruptly upon Kong waking.

fafou2029
08-24-2011, 04:48 PM
Impressive !!!

Phideas1
08-24-2011, 05:07 PM
I noticed in the other 'offerings' that the boy soprano was missing- hence recorded after the orchestra- as well as the exciting tossing about of the Venture as it approaches Skull Island and has that wonderful, eerie synth blast-hence added in after the orchestra was recorded.

sweetmeats
08-24-2011, 05:56 PM
As a fan of your edits GoodMusician, I look forward to hearing what you've done.

jedisaurus
08-24-2011, 06:02 PM
Very nice

c�d�master88
08-24-2011, 08:27 PM
Definitely looking forward to this! Thanks!

octagonproplex
08-24-2011, 09:18 PM
Thanks, excited to have a listen!

GoodMusician
08-25-2011, 05:00 AM
Picking up where I left off:
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[2m4A] Pre-Delaying Jack - Another example of how quickly things can change and spotting sessions might leave out opportunities that didn't seem apparent before, this cue was no doubt a latter decision. Decided upon after the following cue �Delaying Jack [2m4]� was written, this �intro� both utilizes it's name and places an �A� at the end of the slate number signifying it should go before �Delaying Jack,� as its title also suggests. Had it been intended initially, it would have simply been a part of the next cue and thus, we can tell this decision was made later on.

Oddly enough, since [2m3] was merged into [2m2], one might ask why he didn't simply steal that slate number but perhaps it was added after the spotting session but not before they had merged. Because of these reasons, the slate number [2m3] is skipped.

A simple and short percussive string insert, this cues main purpose was to begin the next cue a few moments earlier, highlighting the tension Carl feels realizing that he may still get away, but that he lacks a complete script. A scheme begins to develop in his mind to keep Jack on board and force him to finish the script. Tense strings crescendo over the three eighth-note beats while low strings tremolo preparing the audience for the next cue.

[2m4 v3] Delaying Jack - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the film.

[2m5 v3] Boat Leaves Harbour - This particular cue has only a slight difference compared to it's written score in that the first measure in all the low strings, brass, and timpani is repeated and a crescendo is created by doing so. Perhaps a decision made on the spot at the podium, this small addition adds a very nice breath to the opening of the cue as we see the ship leaving New York, the adventure/island theme playing mysteriously as our adventure begins. (Also, whoever names the cues has a bit of an English flair heh)

[2m6A v4] Bruce Hangs Poster - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[2m6B v4] Jimmy - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[2m7 v2] Ann Rehearses in Mirror - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[2m8A v7] Ann Meets Jack - In the film, the finale of this cue is slightly different. Comparing it to the recording, I'm nearly certain it's a version made artificially by editing out a small segment of the pizzicato low strings and looping in a small segment from about [01:00] in the cue to replace the end as written but it is possible that it's a later version than v7.

[2m8B v8] Bruce and Jimmy - Another instance of how small differences in technique change the overall product, this particular cue has an interesting story. Initially comparing this cue to the conductors score, two things are immediately apparent. The first of which is the missing two bar intro of solo ride cymbol and swing bass, and the second piece of the puzzle, the orchestra is missing during the entire middle section of the recording. The change in performance for the first two bars could simply be a new edit or a decision made at the podium as the overall effect is merely to shorten time (as the film also edits the length of the end of the cue).

The second difference is a bit more staggering. After about [00:10], the entire orchestra drops out for ten seconds leaving only the swing bass. The reason for this is not as simple to guess. One possibility is that the orchestra in this section was recorded separately or that this even was an earlier version of the cue. Conversely, this might even be an alternate mix that had been desired at one point, but was decided against.

The missing orchestra is predominately the rolling timpani for the pull in shot of Bruce Baxter and the tremolo strings accenting the zoom in on each poster. The final string tremolo is also shorter in the final film but this could be an editing decision. Overall, no easy answer, but some intriguing possibilities.

My set presents the cue as written with the timpani rolls and string stings.

[2m9 v4] Jimmy Overhears - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[2m10 v10] Filming on the Boat - Ann Meets Jack (Blake Insert) - The RS presents this cue three times, each with a gradually different emotion.


1) Take 279 - This is perhaps my favourite mix as the opening string after the slightly muted fanfare are layered so lusciously with the winds. Obviously one of the first takes as instrumental layers, mixing, and performance gradually move away from this version.
3) Take 281 - The solo Horn line is played more robustly with the wind/string layering being more string focused.
3) The Final Film Take - The Horns play much more triumphantly, sticking with the string centric mixing and the subtraction of wind counter-melodies.

Comparing Version 5 to Version 10 of this cue, it would seem this cue went through some of the greatest revisions. Presented here are three near identical takes of the same version (version 10). The intro changed very little (despite the horns still managing not to 'sound' at the same time), but after the second portion of the cue which presents again the smooth jazz melody for Bruce, the rest of the cue changes dramatically.

Unfortunately no original version 5 was presented so this true 'alternate' is unheard but what it develops into by version 10 is one of the most beautiful cues in the film.

The opening of this cue mimics the Steiner sound of the 30's meant to imitate what the filming of Bruce and Ann would have been like finished. Small variations in performance such as the dynamics of the winds, the horns, and the addition or subtraction of counter melodies in the winds vary between the takes (ultimately moving further away from the counter melodies and with the winds being very diminished in the opening.

[3m1 v2] The Crew is Nervous - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[3m2] Montage - The only leaked conductors score for �Montage [3m2]� is version 9 which has a nearly identical opening to the final film version (excepting harp doubling of the low strings) but differs greatly through the middle of the cue, having had bars 9 through 25 replaced in the final film take. Version 9 is a bit more dramatic in its changes between the A and B sections of the Island/ Adventure motif, handing it off between strings and winds. Small vibraphone accents are also omitted in the final mix but would have added an amazing ambiance to the overall tropical/adventure sound.

What this says about the RS and the collection of conductors scores that leaked is that even though this may have been the final version of the cue written, the recording presented may have been an older version. Or, conversely, the recording may be a version of the cue AFTER Version 9. There is no way to know but it does highlight the difficulty with these sessions as certain cues aren't fully mixed yet and some are the wrong versions of cues or lack the final film alterations. How exactly these all changed may never be known but what we have learned is that the score to the film kept changing to the final second of recording time.

Another possibility is that this sequence continued to change. Certain elements that were recorded for the purposes of fleshing out the characters were dropped but make small appearances in the montage. The inability to settle on a final montage edit may have led to the numerous versions.

[3m3 v2] There are No Stars - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.


[3m4 v3] Wall - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[3m5A] Breach - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film (with the exception of the opening having been dialed out in the final mix.

724921
08-25-2011, 05:22 AM
This analysis using the complete sheets + the RS is great. Im loving the detail you put into this.

GoodMusician
08-25-2011, 07:12 AM
Continued:
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(Forgot about this one!)
[#mS] Marie's Wedding - This source cue was recorded for an unused dance scene on the ship. Snippets are shown in the montage sequence and the making of features rehearsals for this throughout but ultimately, the scene was not used. The recording is not presented anywhere except as a deleted scene and rips easily but not entirely cleanly.

The recording for this was necessary before shooting the scene began so it was, no doubt, recorded before any other music was recorded for the film (even before the Howard Shore sessions).
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[3m5B] Skull Island - This cue is presented three times on the RS, listing two as alternates. As with most cues from this recording session, they are not true 'alternates' but are rather, alternate takes of cues with only subtle differences.

1) Skull Island (Alternate Take I) This original take is the best in regards to the trumpets performance but not the best in regards to the Horn's performances (as one blasts a muted note a bit too loudly). This performance also lacks the Choir Overlay.
2) Skull Island (Alternate Take II) This second alternate take has the trombones much heavier mixed in the opening ominously but has a slightly off trumpet and violins that aren't quite together. The Choir is mixed into this take, albeit quietly.
3) Skull Island (Film Alternate Take) This final take is similar to the first in that it lacks a trombone undertone in the opening, but has much stronger and more together performances by the rest of the orchestra (possibly because of the decision to use a click track in this take). The choir is also overlayed much more prominently and it is this final take that is used in the film.

[3m6 v7] The Village - Studying the conductors score to this cue version, it would seem a lot of additional doubling was added latter on. Version 6 was not quite as lush as this final version 7 (which would later feature in both the credits and be copied nearly note for note in the scene as Jack decides to find Ann on his own).

Oddly enough, twelve empty measures exist after the final crescendo in this recording. JNH often left places for the synth performers to adlib and fill and this would seem to be one of those instances. No recording of what they came up with is released and it is possible that the synth extension was decided against.

[4m1 v3] The Natives - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the film.

[4m2 v3] Native Attack (Unused Alternate) - This very impressive orchestral alternate to the "Native Attack" sequence is presented on the RS but is not used in the film. The only segment of this cue to be utilized at all is a small portion of the middle which has the "Kong Appears" motif which is tracked to the end of the film version of "Kong Runs." It is truly something to be heard.

Obviously opting for something far more alien, the producers decided to do something more shocking/frightening and use a more synth driven cue. The film version utilizes new orchestral recordings and is obviously a later version than this Version 3 presented on the RS. What the number is, the conductors score, or any other information is limited to only what is heard in the film.

Mixing percussive hits, ethnic instruments and groans with the chanting of the Natives creates a chilling ambiance. The sounds used here and utilized again during the sacrifice sequence and lends a connection between the two necessary to build the frightening horror and fear of these "people."

[4m3A v2] Saved by the Crew - Picking up immediately after the first shot is fired, this cue brings the team back aboard the frantic Venture as it tries to lighten its load to leave. The full version of this cue is presented on the RS but differs slightly from the film version.

The film version replaces the a segment near the middle with a more relaxed piece tracked from "Hero's Don't Look Like Me," possibly to build a connection between the two scenes of Carl dedicating the film and proceeds to those lost on the adventure. The scene also appears to be extended slightly which may have necessitated this addition.

The film mix also lacks some of the strong orchestral hits as Ann senses her captors coming to retrieve her. Snyth overlays take a stronger role, therefore, in this segment, continuing to build this connection between the cold, almost alien people of Skull Island with the synth sound. This difference, however is a mixing choice and, like the edit earlier in the cue, is not a true alternate but one made in post production.

[4m3B v4] Ann is Kidnapped - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the film. This cue in particular is utilized several times, almost directly lifted, in the escape from the island and other action moments.

v-ger06
08-25-2011, 11:11 AM
This analysis using the complete sheets + the RS is great. Im loving the detail you put into this.
I can only agreed !Excellent !

hollistergurl
08-25-2011, 03:54 PM
This is really thorough work, GM. Keep it up!

AbeFroman
08-25-2011, 07:40 PM
Nice! Definitely giving this a listen...thanks!

isacumi
08-25-2011, 08:14 PM
Where is the links? will you upload it?
Thanks in advance!

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thanks!

T-Mann036
08-25-2011, 09:16 PM
Where is the links? will you upload it?
Thanks in advance!

---------- Post added at 01:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:04 PM ----------

thanks!


Here's the link--

Thread 94578

moviemusicsi
08-25-2011, 09:17 PM
no , he meant the 4 disc good musician link....

GoodMusician
08-25-2011, 11:01 PM
I'm gonna post the links but I wanted to post information about what I learned from the score too. To me, that's almost as invaluable as the RS leak. It also helps explain, for example, why the cue "Saved by the Crew" is different on the set than heard in the film that way people dont ask "why is it missing that!" heh

I hope to compile all the information into a PDF to include with the music. :-)

I'm glad that you guys are enjoying the break down. I should post the links soon. :-)

T-Mann036
08-25-2011, 11:03 PM
Take your time GoodMusician. Look forward to the link...

Cornelius&Zira
08-26-2011, 10:17 AM
Thank you for this Up. Amaaaaaaaziiiiiiiing!!!!... Great thank my master.

Cornelius&Zira
08-26-2011, 12:16 PM
Where is a link for this one?... Thanks.

sweetmeats
08-26-2011, 12:19 PM
Patience. Enjoy Good Musicians work on breaking down the score in the meantime and then after that great read, it will get posted.

Cornelius&Zira
08-26-2011, 12:25 PM
Sorry, I did not see the answer to my question above (I wanted to know if you ossedais the link for what you watch in your advertisement) - I look forward to your Up. This is different from the Recording Session 3cd's !!!... I already own.

Thank you very much, soon

GoodMusician
08-27-2011, 07:00 AM
Sorry for the further delay!
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[4m4 Pt I] Sacrifice - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the film.

[4m5 v4] Arming the Crew - This short cue interrupts the two similar Sacrifice sequences with a quick action piece as the group prepares to retried the kidnapped Ann.

[4m6 v2] Sacrifice - This particular cue is presented on the album as the percussion track written by James Newton Howard. The cue consists of at least three layers: percussion track, synth, and orchestral overlays.

This cue, however, is not utilized in the film opting instead for a more snythetic, alien ambiance with an entirely different percussive track. The finale of the film version does return to the RS version so perhaps the film version is simply the next "version number" of this piece.

[4m7 v4] Kong Appears - The first cue James Newton Howard wrote for this score, this cue builds the tension and eventual reveal of Kong himself. Kong's main motif (mostly used when he's angry) is first played here as well as his 'descending chords.' Broken by the arrival of the boats crew to save Ann, the cue goes very frantic only to quote in the strings the journey/island motif. Synth ambiance balances out the reveal of Kong to Carl of "Something monstrous, neither beast, nor man."

[4m8 v1] Trek to Save Ann - Utilizing a near direct lift of "Skull Island," we are treated with a more powerful if not mournful performance of the Island/Journey theme with choir quietly layered underneath. Kong's descending motif closes the cue.

[4m9] Kong Runs - A heavily synth and percussive cue, this piece lays only partially realized in the film. Opting for bringing the percussion in about halfway through the cue, the film version of this cue starts with isolated synth, pulling in the percussion to bring the cue up another energy level to then give way to the recorded orchestral layer as Kong mis-handles Ann, who escapes his grasp momentarily.

[4m10] Crew in Boneyard - The conductor score released for this cue differs greatly from the version on the RS which matches that used in the film. The differences seem to be in timing of certain swells and placement of the music but is not an entirely different cue.

(END OF DISC 1)

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Cornelius&Zira
08-27-2011, 08:48 AM
Thanks very much!!!...

Walpermure
08-27-2011, 09:01 AM
This is pure GOLD!!! Thank you!

bobyaco
08-27-2011, 09:10 AM
Thanks! great score analysis... and the FLAC version!!!
Thank You very Much

Number 112
08-27-2011, 09:29 AM
Fan-tas-tic ! Thank you very much :D

galipolis
08-27-2011, 09:40 AM
Hello,
I thank you so much for the effort and work you put into creating the definitive presentation
of James Newton Howard's complete score for KING KONG.
Considering that he nearly came into the project "in the last minute" and had only five weeks
to compose an alternate score this is a marvelous score bringing all the best out of him.
Same happened to Jerry Goldsmith as he also came in to write a replacement score for AIR FORCE ONE
in a few weeks only time (with help by Joel McNeely).
This too resulted in one of his best action scores of the 1990s.

Number 112
08-27-2011, 10:18 AM
(http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=489338MTKK.jpg)

Lossy !

franklin_d
08-27-2011, 10:36 AM
awesome work mate! thanks a lot!

isacumi
08-27-2011, 11:23 AM
(http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=489338MTKK.jpg)

Lossy !

Do you want t osay that flac files are recoded?
In that case, it is equal mp3 quality than FLAC files?

Thanks anyway for efforts!

Number 112
08-27-2011, 12:05 PM
Do you want t osay that flac files are recoded?
In that case, it is equal mp3 quality than FLAC files?


Exactly! In addition, I compared the two records of the Main Theme (3CD and this one) the sound quality is better on the Recording Sessions (no saturation) :(

isacumi
08-27-2011, 12:19 PM
Exactly! In addition, I compared the two records of the Main Theme (3CD and this one) the sound quality is better on the Recording Sessions (no saturation) :(

Thanks for info!

GoodMusician
08-27-2011, 04:55 PM
I've made no false promises that the score is lossless. Its only been leaked in 320. I've done minor tweaking to the score, raising the volume and rebalancing. If you think the RS is better than the way this sounds, then that's up to you but I disagree. The RS has some tracks mixed wrong wth channels flipped and such. You're welcome to go back to the RS and redo them yourself. I only released them in flac to avoid further degredation.:

A simple thank you for your work would have been acceptable.

sweetmeats
08-27-2011, 04:59 PM
Let me make sure to tell you again, thanks! While I'm excited about your upload, the real meat of it is your analysis. Please continue despite some of the grumblings from the peanut gallery.

Number 112
08-27-2011, 07:04 PM
Today 02:29 AM
Fan-tas-tic ! Thank you very much :D

Today 05:05 AM
Exactly! In addition, I compared the two records of the Main Theme (3CD and this one) the sound quality is better on the Recording Sessions (no saturation) :(


Today 09:55 AM
A simple thank you for your work would have been acceptable.


Thank you for your work

GoodMusician
08-27-2011, 07:36 PM
Sry I just think you could have approached that better than just saying "lossy!" Which is a given since it leaked in Mp3 320. I think it souns better on my aet but thats up to thw individul. I worked with what exists.

Compos_JSJ
08-27-2011, 08:19 PM
Hello,
I thank you so much for the effort and work you put into creating the definitive presentation
of James Newton Howard's complete score for KING KONG.
Considering that he nearly came into the project "in the last minute" and had only five weeks
to compose an alternate score this is a marvelous score bringing all the best out of him.
Same happened to Jerry Goldsmith as he also came in to write a replacement score for AIR FORCE ONE
in a few weeks only time (with help by Joel McNeely).
This too resulted in one of his best action scores of the 1990s.

Goldsmith had to compose AFO in one week.

GoshShesHot
08-27-2011, 08:24 PM
Really enjoying your breakdowns GoodMusician, thank you for all your work.

moviemusicsi
08-27-2011, 08:43 PM
disc one is fantastic work
cant wait for the others !!!!!!

marcorea1
08-27-2011, 11:15 PM
ive listened to portions of disc one and i think in terms of sound quality it isnt that bad at all. it lacks bass but gains a bit more in definition in which instruments sound more distinctive. i think it goes down to personal preference in which version is most suitable. i personally would listen to the original 3cd recording sessions for portable listening because its less loud on my ears, however GoodMusician's tweaked eq does sound very nice on my stereo speakers.

All in all good job mate!

Blue Mountain
08-27-2011, 11:48 PM
Hey GoodMusician, fantastic Thanks!!!

Number 112
08-28-2011, 10:22 AM
Sry I just think you could have approached that better than just saying "lossy!" Which is a given since it leaked in Mp3 320. I think it souns better on my aet but thats up to thw individul. I worked with what exists.

Sorry for being so direct, it doesn't matter, you did a great job. I have read nowhere that the FLAC version was not authentic (for the reasons you just explained and that I understand now), I was disappointed and wanted to clarify this, so that others are not disappointed as well.

GoodMusician
08-28-2011, 10:54 AM
I'll have to explain a bit about what I was trying to do here too. The 3CD RS that was sent to me was in 320 MP3... but re-encoding mp3 as mp3, would simply degrade sound. Thus, I only edit in wav and deliver in FLAC and ,if so desired, mp3.

As for saturation, I find myself making music a bit louder lately. Perhaps its a phase, but frankly, the overall effect on this recording sounded more extreme. The reason being the mixing was more extreme than a Williams score. MOst Williams scores are a bit more 'live' in their ambiance where as this was more along the lines of a very mic'd job. Most of the intruments are pretty present. Now, if you go back to the album, compare that to the RS, then to my Set, you would find a FANTASTICALLY different sound between them.

If I'm correct, the RS is the un-tampered with recordings as the sound department might have received them. What was on the album was an attempt to level out each of the factors and give it more analogue warmth. My work was to bring out the overall tone in each range and balance (not an easy feat). But again, to each his own.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I just don't like the general air on this site at times. Hostile is a word that comes to mind. Not always or necessarily so, but an air that keeps me from really getting too comfortable here.

But anyway, I shall continue with Disc 2 now
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[5m1 v5] Footprint - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the film.

[5m2 v7] Stampede - Perhaps one of the best action cues, this piece reminds me of a John Williams action set piece. There are great moments that could almost work in a Jurassic Park/ Star Wars scene. Setting the piece in a 5 beat meter gives lends the cue a very off kilter jog to it by creating the usual 4 beat measure aided by a push into the first beat of the next measure. Truly a brilliant action piece.

[5m3 v2] Raptors - Introducing us to the first menacing turns through the lows strings and brass with sudden staccato brass hits, this show cue only gives us a taste of whats to come with this dangerous carnivore motif.

[5m4 v1] Heroes Don't Look Like Me - After twelve bars of synth ambiance, the cue builds a sorrowfully rousing melody as Carl tries to make the situation. Bruce decides he has had enough adventure and, with a slow muted rendition of his 'jazz motif' he leaves the group for the safety of the boat to a depression rendition of the 'journey/island' theme.

[5m5A v16 Pt I] Ann Tries to Escape - Borrowing heavily from "Kong Appears," this opening of short musical sequence of Ann truly getting to interact with Kong himself builds on the menace that we feel for Kong and his anger. The cue subsides a little as she builds her plan to calm the beast.

This version differs slightly from the later iteration of v18 in small ways. One such change is the removal of a wind solo near the end of the cue which otherwise would is used to build into the final beat, opting instead for a "surprise" drop.

[5m5A v16 Pt II] Ann Tries to Escape - Continuning where the end of the last cue left off, v16 uses the harp as a means to convey tension and mystery. Most of the cue lacks the harp excepting in quieter moments near the opening. Eventually the cue moves into the familiar New York jazz theme as Ann begins to get braver in her entertainment attempts.

Half of this cue is unused in the film, perhaps to keep the sequence from seeming too forced and allowing it to be more organic.

Version 18 of this cue, however, includes the harp nearly throughout the entire cue, keeping a steady sense of tension and mystery. As the melody begins to play, no further interruptions are introduced and instead the melody plays undisturbed until the end of this part of the Cue.

[5m5A v14 Pt III] Ann Tries to Escape - This final step of the cue builds off the 'New York Jazz' motif as Ann attempts to entertain Kong, the humor in this sequence allowed to come through.

The ending of this version of the cue differs from the later version 18 in that it leaves the 'New York Motif' in favour of a more tense, string tremolo and horn chord until the final col lingo hit for the finale.

Version 18 would replace this tense moment with a continuation of the humorous New York motif until the final col lingo hit. Two takes of version 18 are presented on the RS with one being the final corrected take and the other (take 878) being flubbed by the low brass who are off a beat until the very end (playing even after the final hit).

[5m5B] Ruins - A quiet cue that begins to showcase the Kong/ Ann four note motif, moves into a choir sustain over synth ambiance. (The oddest thing about this cue is I swear I can hear crickets in the background near the end, quietly chirping).

[5m6 v3] Crew Finds Kong Log - The now familiar opening of synth continues in this cue until a direct lift from "Jimmy" cue opens this moment as the crew finds a fallen tree, a means to travel across a deep ravine. The cue moves into a more synth driven middle section until the brass and string bumps give way to string tremolo and Kong appears.

Sorrowful choir and strings sing as the enraged Kong throws Hayes to his death in the pit. An amalgomation of the King Kong descending motif and the strained cry of the journey/island theme vie for attention with a small nod to the original Kong motif as the orchestra and choir sing descending chords until the final landing.

soundtrackers
08-28-2011, 12:13 PM
Awesome! Please upload the rest this is a historical release in every aspect!
Bigger than King Kong!

Walpermure
08-28-2011, 12:31 PM
GoodMusician what you are doing in regard to your remixing of the recording sessions and written score analysis is VERY MUCH appreciated! Your attention to detail on various levels is evident and, to be honest, staggering in your commitment to this very important score. I LOVE what you are doing here. Thank you!

SonicAdventure
08-28-2011, 12:49 PM
I'll have to explain a bit about what I was trying to do here too. The 3CD RS that was sent to me was in 320 MP3... but re-encoding mp3 as mp3, would simply degrade sound. Thus, I only edit in wav and deliver in FLAC and ,if so desired, mp3.

You really are doing a great work. For my own listening pleasure I did create my own expanded edition and left out the alternates and the Steiner music as I was interested in Howards work only. While I was doing that I came under the impression that the 3CD RS with 320 has been encoded to MP3 before and that the version we actually have already is encoded in its second generation. Reason: for 320 kB/s there are way too much subtle flanging effects and too much of the frequency band is missing (with 320 kb/s the cutoff would be mostly around at 19 kHz or so - but here it�s almost always at 16 or less). Do you have perhaps any information about this?

And another question... you talked about the analogue warmth of the official CD. I can confirm this, the recording sessions almost sound like "Lady in the Water" which could appear to some to be lacking "punch" perhaps needed for an action-oriented adventure score. How did you come up with a good overall sound balance? I managed to do the same, I wanted to keep the brilliance of the RS but also wanted the punch of the official CD but I�m very interested in your approach. Furthermore, I found that some tracks are way too low in volume on the RS. For one it�s because the official CD is brickwall-limited. But so are some tracks on the RS (with horrible results). Are perhaps some tracks on the RS taken from the official CD? Still, on the RS there are many tracks too low in volume compared to similar executed parts ("Jack gets Idea" for example). Are you leaving those volume differences alone or are you - like me - changing them in order to give a coherent dynamic listening? I also did a tiny little bit of dynamic compression, amplifying soft parts to a small amount as this also was done on the official CD (not much though).

A lot of questions, I know. Sorry in advance.

Deakul
08-29-2011, 01:51 AM
Is the version of Blackbird you're upping the fast tempo or mellow one?

724921
08-29-2011, 01:53 AM
I'll have to explain a bit about what I was trying to do here too. The 3CD RS that was sent to me was in 320 MP3... but re-encoding mp3 as mp3, would simply degrade sound. Thus, I only edit in wav and deliver in FLAC and ,if so desired, mp3.


Thanks for not being one of the idiots who further deteriorates quality by transcoding.

GoodMusician
08-29-2011, 03:36 AM
I use the version of "Black Bird" used in the film

As for the other questions. I've boosted most of the volume of the entire set, which sometimes got close to clipping but I did my best to prevent this. The oddity of these files is that they sound so good but at the same time are, as you've noticed, lossy and usually below the 16kb range. I didn't notice that. My thought is perhaps its a variable mp3? I did notice that when instruments came in, it seemed to sound really good quality, but as soon as the sound level dropped, it would get so quiet you couldn't hear distortions. I'm not sure what that would be a sign of encoding wise but it was something I noticed.

As for the sound differences between the album in this, the album tried to dumb down the brightness and liveness of the recordings. It's kinda odd the work done but I can only suspect they were attempting to add analogue-esque warmth. Interesting to note too, certain falacies in the score such as digital noise created ,perhaps, by somone leaving a cell phone on or near equipment (that weird click/beep) is audible in the RS but is muddled ont he album to the point of almost not being there unless your listening to it.

I think that the amount of time available to the mixer for the album played a part in this too. They may not have been able to take the time needed to perfect the mix. They added a LOT of bass, but at the cost of a lot of upper registers and overtones

Deakul
08-29-2011, 04:08 AM
Oh, good.
Can't wait for it.

ttdd1986
08-29-2011, 05:31 AM
Thx for your great job.

I wonder if I can only use the last track? Film Credits Suite?? PM OK ?

moviemusicsi
08-29-2011, 11:55 AM
hi there when will the other discs be posted , i cant wait to hear them!!!

GoodMusician
08-30-2011, 04:46 AM
Disc 2 continued:

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[6m1 v14] Lizards - This cue matches the sheet music almost exactly excluding the winds at the end. It's possible that this is a later version than 14 or the winds were simply overlayed.

[6m2 v2] T-Rex & Ann - The first big cue utilizing the carnivore motif as Ann is chased by the "V-Rex" through the jungle. This cue matches the sheet music up until the very end where the uneasy string chords give way to a more relaxed ending which is almost literally two notes.

[6m3 Pt I - 6m3 Pt II] T Rex & Kong Fight - The long awaited battle between the rexs and Kong comes to fruition at last in this incredible action cue utilizing both theclimbing Kong motif and the triumphant Kong motif. The most interesting thing about this sequence, the opening sequence, and the ending is how each borrows from the other and there is an obvious progression between the three as JNH frantically wrote music for this film causing many similarities if not direct lifts to be carried over.

[6m4 v6] Vines - The carnivore motif comes out strongly again in this short insert of a cue almost as a direct lift from "Raptors"

[6m5 v6 (Choir Mix)] Jawbreaker Pt I & Pt II - Presented on the RS is the final film version of this cue which utilizes a great deal of material explored later in the finale of the film.

Version 4 of this cue has a similar opening but instead jumps to a frantic, percussive build until the final chords which would transition between the journey motif and climbing Kong motif. The quiet, touching finale of both Jawbreaker Pt II v4 and the second half of Jawbreaker Pt II v6 are the same.

[6m6 v5 PtI] Dead Crew Members - Both part I and II of this cue are truly the same but due to how the post production done on the music has changed the over all effect of the orchestral sound and merged it with that of synth, it was necessary to isolate the first 43 measures at part one and measure 44 to the end (the choir section) as another part.

[6m6 v5 PtI] Dead Crew Members - This is the isolated choir segment of this cue which contains a heavy mix of synth. This heavy load of bug synth detracts from the music but is an official mixing of the cue as it is heard in certain making of features. It does not represent what it heard in the film (isolated choir) and unfortunately, that choir does not easily rip which is a real pity.

[6m7] Beautiful - The only released conductors score to this cue is unfinished and thus the final version is unknown but as the title says, this cue is truly 'Beautiful.' Borrowing heavily from what would be used later in the film during the touching moments atop the Empire State, this cue begins to showcase the love the 'beast' shows for Ann.

[7m1 v4 w/ New Ending] Carl Gets Idea - This cue is another cut and paste job from "The Crew is Nervous" with a shortened reprise of the "main titles" lacking a melodic line (which is marked as 'cue' on the sheet music) to only then play the journey motif proudly and fade out.

[7m3 v1] Kongs Arms - Steady strings lay the bed for this quiet cue utilizing the Love for Ann 4 note motif. Similar versions of this cue are echoed through the score but with different wind voicing.

[7m4 v6] Jack in Graveyard - Extended technique strings and harmonics build an eerie air to the opening of this cue. A steady bass drum lends an almost heart-beat to the cue as Jack travels to where Ann lies asleep in the 'beasts' arms. Magical synth, winds, and strings lend a majesty to the tension as Jack quietly approaches Ann, attempting to wake her. Upon waking, a sorrowful melody (used later in choir at Kong's death) plays in the strings as Ann realizes the last thing she ever expected to see stood before her. Jack and Ann reach for each-other and the music ends abruptly upon Kong waking.

Fink
08-31-2011, 12:25 PM
Can't wait for the rest of your analysis!

isacumi
08-31-2011, 12:30 PM
THANKS.....Waiting your contiue...and links!, hehehehehe

Thanks for your effort!

isacumi

SonicAdventure
08-31-2011, 01:33 PM
As for the other questions. I've boosted most of the volume of the entire set, which sometimes got close to clipping but I did my best to prevent this. The oddity of these files is that they sound so good but at the same time are, as you've noticed, lossy and usually below the 16kb range. I didn't notice that. My thought is perhaps its a variable mp3? I did notice that when instruments came in, it seemed to sound really good quality, but as soon as the sound level dropped, it would get so quiet you couldn't hear distortions. I'm not sure what that would be a sign of encoding wise but it was something I noticed.

Yes, the sound is quite good. Regarding the bitrate I thought that it was encoded with 320 and constant bitrate. But maybe it�s the second encoding. People who don�t have an idea of what they have there sometimes do these stupid things so that it appears to have "best" quality when in fact it�s even worse than before. Even if that would be the case, the SQ still is remarkably good.

And there are distortions: some of the louder tracks are strongly distorted (-> clipping from making it too loud), especially the ones that could come from the official CD (for example: "Carl steals footage").


As for the sound differences between the album in this, the album tried to dumb down the brightness and liveness of the recordings. It's kinda odd the work done but I can only suspect they were attempting to add analogue-esque warmth. Interesting to note too, certain falacies in the score such as digital noise created ,perhaps, by somone leaving a cell phone on or near equipment (that weird click/beep) is audible in the RS but is muddled ont he album to the point of almost not being there unless your listening to it.

I think that the amount of time available to the mixer for the album played a part in this too. They may not have been able to take the time needed to perfect the mix. They added a LOT of bass, but at the cost of a lot of upper registers and overtones

Yes, they did. And you�re right, when I prepared my own version I noticed the cellphone bleeping too. Never heard it before though, maybe they used iZotope Spectral Repair to get rid of it. I also think that they had not too much time when preparing the mix. The volume differences could hint at that (maybe they did some pickups that were recorded differently).

In any case, I�m very curious with what you�ll come up with.

jediscore
09-03-2011, 03:46 AM
Thank Still waiting for Disc 2

megamattterra
09-03-2011, 01:14 PM
you know some of these alternate versions that you heard in the dvd are sometimes post-production edits taken from other tracks to amplify dramatic affect. basically the sound team mixes certain tracks together

moviemusicsi
09-03-2011, 01:59 PM
yeah when will the other discs be uploaded?

Cornelius&Zira
09-03-2011, 03:30 PM
yeah when will the other discs be uploaded?

Yes, You would be really a master for us guy !!!... Thank you my friend.

Goji64
09-04-2011, 02:32 AM
Thanks a lot for the great collection and your work.

TheFettMan
09-14-2011, 01:28 AM
Any update on when we might see discs two, three and four?

shijiandaolo
09-14-2011, 02:21 AM
Picking up where I left off:
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[2m4A] Pre-Delaying Jack - Another example of how quickly things can change and spotting sessions might leave out opportunities that didn't seem apparent before, this cue was no doubt a latter decision. Decided upon after the following cue �Delaying Jack [2m4]� was written, this �intro� both utilizes it's name and places an �A� at the end of the slate number signifying it should go before �Delaying Jack,� as its title also suggests. Had it been intended initially, it would have simply been a part of the next cue and thus, we can tell this decision was made later on.

Oddly enough, since [2m3] was merged into [2m2], one might ask why he didn't simply steal that slate number but perhaps it was added after the spotting session but not before they had merged. Because of these reasons, the slate number [2m3] is skipped.

A simple and short percussive string insert, this cues main purpose was to begin the next cue a few moments earlier, highlighting the tension Carl feels realizing that he may still get away, but that he lacks a complete script. A scheme begins to develop in his mind to keep Jack on board and force him to finish the script. Tense strings crescendo over the three eighth-note beats while low strings tremolo preparing the audience for the next cue.

[2m4 v3] Delaying Jack - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the film.

[2m5 v3] Boat Leaves Harbour - This particular cue has only a slight difference compared to it's written score in that the first measure in all the low strings, brass, and timpani is repeated and a crescendo is created by doing so. Perhaps a decision made on the spot at the podium, this small addition adds a very nice breath to the opening of the cue as we see the ship leaving New York, the adventure/island theme playing mysteriously as our adventure begins. (Also, whoever names the cues has a bit of an English flair heh)

[2m6A v4] Bruce Hangs Poster - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[2m6B v4] Jimmy - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[2m7 v2] Ann Rehearses in Mirror - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[2m8A v7] Ann Meets Jack - In the film, the finale of this cue is slightly different. Comparing it to the recording, I'm nearly certain it's a version made artificially by editing out a small segment of the pizzicato low strings and looping in a small segment from about [01:00] in the cue to replace the end as written but it is possible that it's a later version than v7.

[2m8B v8] Bruce and Jimmy - Another instance of how small differences in technique change the overall product, this particular cue has an interesting story. Initially comparing this cue to the conductors score, two things are immediately apparent. The first of which is the missing two bar intro of solo ride cymbol and swing bass, and the second piece of the puzzle, the orchestra is missing during the entire middle section of the recording. The change in performance for the first two bars could simply be a new edit or a decision made at the podium as the overall effect is merely to shorten time (as the film also edits the length of the end of the cue).

The second difference is a bit more staggering. After about [00:10], the entire orchestra drops out for ten seconds leaving only the swing bass. The reason for this is not as simple to guess. One possibility is that the orchestra in this section was recorded separately or that this even was an earlier version of the cue. Conversely, this might even be an alternate mix that had been desired at one point, but was decided against.

The missing orchestra is predominately the rolling timpani for the pull in shot of Bruce Baxter and the tremolo strings accenting the zoom in on each poster. The final string tremolo is also shorter in the final film but this could be an editing decision. Overall, no easy answer, but some intriguing possibilities.

My set presents the cue as written with the timpani rolls and string stings.

[2m9 v4] Jimmy Overhears - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[2m10 v10] Filming on the Boat - Ann Meets Jack (Blake Insert) - The RS presents this cue three times, each with a gradually different emotion.


1) Take 279 - This is perhaps my favourite mix as the opening string after the slightly muted fanfare are layered so lusciously with the winds. Obviously one of the first takes as instrumental layers, mixing, and performance gradually move away from this version.
3) Take 281 - The solo Horn line is played more robustly with the wind/string layering being more string focused.
3) The Final Film Take - The Horns play much more triumphantly, sticking with the string centric mixing and the subtraction of wind counter-melodies.

Comparing Version 5 to Version 10 of this cue, it would seem this cue went through some of the greatest revisions. Presented here are three near identical takes of the same version (version 10). The intro changed very little (despite the horns still managing not to 'sound' at the same time), but after the second portion of the cue which presents again the smooth jazz melody for Bruce, the rest of the cue changes dramatically.

Unfortunately no original version 5 was presented so this true 'alternate' is unheard but what it develops into by version 10 is one of the most beautiful cues in the film.

The opening of this cue mimics the Steiner sound of the 30's meant to imitate what the filming of Bruce and Ann would have been like finished. Small variations in performance such as the dynamics of the winds, the horns, and the addition or subtraction of counter melodies in the winds vary between the takes (ultimately moving further away from the counter melodies and with the winds being very diminished in the opening.

[3m1 v2] The Crew is Nervous - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[3m2] Montage - The only leaked conductors score for �Montage [3m2]� is version 9 which has a nearly identical opening to the final film version (excepting harp doubling of the low strings) but differs greatly through the middle of the cue, having had bars 9 through 25 replaced in the final film take. Version 9 is a bit more dramatic in its changes between the A and B sections of the Island/ Adventure motif, handing it off between strings and winds. Small vibraphone accents are also omitted in the final mix but would have added an amazing ambiance to the overall tropical/adventure sound.

What this says about the RS and the collection of conductors scores that leaked is that even though this may have been the final version of the cue written, the recording presented may have been an older version. Or, conversely, the recording may be a version of the cue AFTER Version 9. There is no way to know but it does highlight the difficulty with these sessions as certain cues aren't fully mixed yet and some are the wrong versions of cues or lack the final film alterations. How exactly these all changed may never be known but what we have learned is that the score to the film kept changing to the final second of recording time.

Another possibility is that this sequence continued to change. Certain elements that were recorded for the purposes of fleshing out the characters were dropped but make small appearances in the montage. The inability to settle on a final montage edit may have led to the numerous versions.

[3m3 v2] There are No Stars - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.


[3m4 v3] Wall - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film.

[3m5A] Breach - This cue is presented fully on the RS as used in the Film (with the exception of the opening having been dialed out in the final mix.



Thanks, excited to have a listen!

moviemusicsi
09-20-2011, 12:39 PM
when will the other discs be posted?

thanks

Faleel
09-20-2011, 04:32 PM
Well I heard he found a Lossless source and is redoing is version, but it could be just a rumor.

docrate1
09-20-2011, 05:05 PM
Thanks you very much, goodmusician, as much for the upload as for this huge analysis work on the score. A goldmine of information !:D

Phideas1
09-20-2011, 06:08 PM
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GoodMusician
09-21-2011, 06:45 AM
sry guys, I've been kinda under the weather lately and as I got better, I came into posession of the recordings again but this time in lossless (and have now leaked here as well) and as such, I'm going back and in essence redoing everything I did. It shouldn't be too tedious but I'll post it all soon. sry about the delay!

Walpermure
09-21-2011, 07:37 AM
No problem. Looking forward to what you come up with!

Thanks again.

jedisaurus
09-21-2011, 12:28 PM
Thanks for the update! Glad your feeling better!

gorillawhale
09-21-2011, 08:11 PM
Thanks and looking forward to it. As this is my favorite movie I try to get my hands on everything associated with it. Especially music. The only thing I can't find is a "free" version of the score for concert band, orchestra. But much gratitude in advance for this.

AlexShore
09-21-2011, 09:55 PM
What about the orchestral sheet music?

gorillawhale
09-22-2011, 05:04 AM
I've heard The Orchestral sheet music exists but it's like 1400 pages. The concert Band version is out there but it's only Highlights and it's around 60 to 80 dollars. I do have the piano sheet music Highlights.

ScoreDude1985
10-09-2011, 06:04 AM
When is CDs 2,3, & 4 coming???

Number 112
10-09-2011, 08:35 AM
Maybe with the covers :D

Compos_JSJ
10-14-2011, 06:26 PM
I've heard The Orchestral sheet music exists but it's like 1400 pages. The concert Band version is out there but it's only Highlights and it's around 60 to 80 dollars. I do have the piano sheet music Highlights.

Yes it exists.

gorillawhale
10-16-2011, 05:42 AM
So it does exist? Does anyone know where to find it?

gorillawhale
11-11-2011, 07:00 AM
So, you'll tell me it exists but you won't tell me where to find it? Suspicious...

gorillawhale
12-12-2011, 01:56 AM
By the way, I don't care if it takes you 2 years to get the links up-THANK YOU!

jacksparrow900
02-11-2012, 02:31 AM
what's the update on this

DWboso
10-26-2012, 12:34 AM
Will this ever be finished? I'm really interested in hearing this.

soundtrackers
10-26-2012, 12:55 AM
would love this one!

pol290
10-26-2012, 03:11 AM
Please PM :)

dean1700
10-26-2012, 03:48 AM
This sounds like it is an absolute MUST HAVE.

GoodMusician
10-26-2012, 04:31 AM
I never finished posting this... I didn't realize there was much interest lol

---------- Post added at 10:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:21 PM ----------

I never finished posting this... I didn't realize there was much interest lol

drhousetapachula
10-26-2012, 05:20 AM
Please GoodMusician Re-upload the links for the first cd and finish your complete analysis posting the links for the rest of the three cd's thanks for that

DWboso
10-26-2012, 07:39 AM
Please GoodMusician Re-upload the links for the first cd and finish your complete analysis posting the links for the rest of the three cd's thanks for that

I agree. I'm very anxious to see it all finished.

Calidoran
10-26-2012, 08:40 AM
Only just found this thread and i would love for it to come to life again :)

marinus
10-26-2012, 08:57 AM
It's like holding candy in front of a child! I can't wait for CD 2,3,4.

Deakul
10-26-2012, 12:00 PM
I'm still looking for the copy of Black Bird used in the film! :p

Blue Mountain
10-26-2012, 10:08 PM
Would love the rest!

fedemarvel
10-26-2012, 11:24 PM
Please,would love the rest!

1futurewrestler
12-08-2012, 12:36 AM
Any chance of an upload?

bsiegrist33
12-08-2012, 08:33 AM
Can you please repost the links to download would love to hear the songs I know its been a good year n half since you first posted..thanks

velociraptor666
12-08-2012, 09:29 AM
Would love to get this score.

GoodMusician
04-21-2013, 11:54 PM
Decided I had a moment to upload this. Dunno how long the links will last. This is now taken from a lossless source which had since my first post leaked.


Disc 1



Disc 2



Disc 3



Disc 4

LeSamourai
04-22-2013, 12:57 AM
Thanks for providing the links!

gorillawhale
04-22-2013, 02:45 AM
Much appreciation!

Constantine1989
04-22-2013, 03:11 AM
Thanks so much for the reup GoodMusician! I'm still enjoying your Jurassic Park Resurrected Edit so it's going to be a while before I get around to this treasure. Thanks again and I can't wait to listen!

GoodMusician
04-22-2013, 06:31 AM
Thanks for the kind words. This is really the first NON Williams score I studied but I did a lto of work on it. The cue titles and slate numbers should all be accurate with version numbers. I even edited/replicated some unreleased versions of tracks and ripped DVD to replace certain film-mix differences. There really should be no need for any other version of this except maybe a personalized play list heh

gorillawhale
04-23-2013, 04:53 PM
Where did you find that version of Bye Bye BlackBird? I have one almost identical which is from a Peggy Lee release called Black Coffee. I thought that was the one used in the movie. Yours seems to be a bit of a different arrangement. Also The Jack Black song. I don't think I've heard that before. Corny but a nice little addition.

GoodMusician
04-23-2013, 07:26 PM
Honestly, if I recall I ripped "Bye Bye Black Bird" from a YouTube video cause I couldn't locate it. I'll have to find it.

My edits always have a bunch of odd things On them like he jack black song. I try to be "complete," perhaps too much so lol

Goldelf
04-23-2013, 10:11 PM
Many Thanks for this one :)

DerKlang
04-24-2013, 11:17 AM
So much music to hear. Thank you for the work and time you've put into this project. At first I was not overly impressed by Howard's music, at least not as it is heard in the film. But as time went by and I heard the various versions of the composition, then I liked it quite well. Therefore, I am now really looking forward to your version. So once again thank you.

gorillawhale
04-24-2013, 04:32 PM
I got the Black Coffee cd off of Amazon. It's beautiful and has since became my favorite piece of music. That was such a quick but sad part of the movie. If I can get to it I'll try and upload it if anyone is interested.

GoodMusician
05-22-2015, 08:12 AM
So it was brought to my attention that people are selling my work. They are also misrepresenting MY edits as sessions and tricking people into trading for them.

I don't get money for my edits and I SHARE them freely for others to learn about them and enjoy them. I don't mind people sharing them, in fact, If I'm sharing, so can you! I think giving your friends these sets is an amazing way to spread knowledge and the love of film music and if an official printing comes along, it'll make you want it all that more...

But when it comes to my attention that MY work that I put ALL The energy and effort into to make sure it was 100% right (more than you can say about MANY labels which actually make REAL products you can buy), my labor of love... and people are tricking people with them? Posting them on EBAY? Selling them?? OTHER people are making money on them???

Watch how quickly my edits STOP GETTING POSTED.

If I see it again, then I'm removing all links.

Calidoran
05-22-2015, 08:31 AM
Been there, done that, seen it all... that threat does not mean a thing to some individuals, unfortunately :( checkout the Vangelis/Blade Runner threads, same thing there. The only thing to do to minimize the risks is not to share the links openly. Unfortunately (again)

reppa35
10-14-2015, 09:51 PM
Hey GoodMusician, is it possible to send a link for these sessions? I am sorry you have not gotten credit for your work and time on these. I am giving you credit i my own way. Thanks friend.

Petros
10-14-2015, 10:17 PM
Monumental upload!
Thank you so much for your work, GoodMusician!

Reppa35, since you have given credit to GoodMusician, go to post #97.

mirren
10-15-2015, 04:39 AM
Many thanks GoodMusician!

reppa35
10-24-2015, 08:10 PM
I see the links. Thank you much appropriated.

HansCastorpMM
10-24-2015, 08:25 PM
thank you!!

mrmusician
10-24-2015, 08:40 PM
Would love to get them please, thanks in advance.

Petros
10-24-2015, 09:06 PM
Read post #110.

GoodMusician
12-04-2015, 09:15 AM
Updated first post with links and track list

Goodlaura
01-11-2016, 08:00 PM
Just superb, GoodMusician!!! Thank you very much!!!

jmoss
01-12-2016, 04:23 AM
thank you!!

Clunker
01-12-2016, 04:41 AM
Such hard work, GoodMusician! Thank you for sharing!

Matthijs
01-27-2016, 06:00 PM
Fantastic work! I was wondering if you have the intention of finishing your analysis. Love reading it!

westernjunkie
01-29-2016, 12:17 PM
Amazing collection, thank you so much!

Imperivm
05-15-2016, 05:49 PM
Impressive efforts... Thanks :)

foscog
05-22-2016, 10:52 AM
Many thanks

spd1961
05-22-2016, 11:15 AM
GREAT work
do you have the cd ary work to go with this great score

uncut1
05-22-2016, 12:56 PM
really impresive work would like to listen to your efforts if possible?

Imperivm
05-23-2016, 03:32 PM
really impresive work would like to listen to your efforts if possible?

You can find the links in the first page, just above the tracklists of the CDs :)

TK23
05-26-2016, 08:27 AM
Thank you!

galipolis
05-26-2016, 08:36 PM
Thanks for effort to reconstruct the score to it's chronological complete beauty.
I am aware that this reconstruction was very hard and timeconsuming work but it really shines.
Kind regards, Klaus.

blackie74
01-29-2017, 01:38 PM
great work, thank you so much

ArcadiaSSX999
01-29-2017, 02:19 PM
Thank you.

T1j
02-24-2017, 04:13 PM
Hello,
would you be so kind and re-up this great music.

Much appreciated

mckennap
03-16-2017, 06:21 AM
If someone could please re upload the link to the King Kong Recording Sessions it would also be gratefully appreciated too :)

christopherkomar
05-03-2017, 03:31 AM
Wow. What a stunning job you've done compiling this "beast" of a collection!

GoodMusician
05-03-2017, 05:36 AM
Thank you, if there were a better place to upload, I'd reup

vvvital18
05-05-2017, 10:46 PM
Please, send me tge working links.

Dreamrevolution
05-24-2017, 06:17 PM
Could You Reupload this Soundtrack, Please? This Film & it's score is a part of History & I'd Be sad if a Piece of History is lost.

Imperivm
05-25-2017, 09:47 AM
Thank you, if there were a better place to upload, I'd reup

Mediafire?

ScoreDude1985
05-26-2017, 07:26 PM
I'd like this, can you send me a link via PM?

HarryPotter1971
07-29-2017, 05:33 PM
Could You Reupload this Soundtrack, Please? This Film & it's score is a part of History & I'd Be sad if a Piece of History is lost.

I second that request. Please re-up. Thanks!

T1j
08-25-2017, 02:16 PM
Hello,
would you or someone else be so kind and re-up this great score.

Much appreciated

darth2602
08-25-2017, 02:48 PM
could you, please, reup ?

Imperivm
08-25-2017, 07:04 PM
I still have the original files from GoodMusician.
I can provide fresh links, but for obvious reasons it will take some time :)

Imperivm
08-27-2017, 06:53 PM
Here it is!
All the cues originally uploaded by GoodMusician, still untouched :)

4 CDs, 1.3 GB.


Download Link (https://mega.nz/#F!WldGSQ4I!hfPL8914mtzTcUlG3j9_Aw)

awesomeshinigami
10-13-2017, 09:40 PM
Thanks Imperivm for the re-up and thank you GoodMusician for the soundtrack! I gave reps to both of you.

worldcup94
10-15-2017, 05:30 AM
Thank you very much:whatislove:

Lamentizer
02-07-2018, 08:51 PM
Even though I already have the recording sessions from a different source, I appreciate all the work you've done with analyzing this score. This is the 1st thread that I've read everything 100% of the way through in quite a while. Are you ever going to finish reels 7-9?

GoodMusician
05-03-2018, 07:38 PM
Links Updated.

Don't know how long it'll be up cause they got flagged last time too...

DAKoftheOTA
05-03-2018, 11:31 PM
Fuck me, why have I not been aware of this for the past 6� years 0_0

alejandrodelcla
05-03-2018, 11:37 PM
SPECTACULAR ���� THANK YOU���

web traveller
05-04-2018, 01:42 AM
Wow! Thanks for this one. Glad I spotted it today. Must have been hard work putting all this together. Will give you reps when I can.

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As promised. Rep given. Thanks again.

arthurshelton
05-04-2018, 09:26 AM
This seems great, thanks!

Tech49
05-05-2018, 09:59 AM
Thanks for the links. And amazing breakdown of the full score! This seems really great. Thanks!

Jerry Will
05-26-2018, 03:45 PM
Amazing work! Thank you so very much!

GoodMusician
08-24-2018, 09:15 AM
Links in first post active again

Lamentizer
11-11-2018, 05:04 AM
Downloads flagged.

krastpank
11-17-2018, 09:00 PM
Links in first post active again
are the new links already gone or am I too stupid to find them?

GoodMusician
11-17-2018, 10:03 PM
It's not you, all my uploads got flagged... :-/

krastpank
11-19-2018, 05:51 PM
I could have known if I'd read properly... this sucks badly! :(