solaris8x86
08-06-2011, 06:14 AM
trck


Lossless encoded by: iTunes 10.4 (64bit) Apple Lossless m4a format (PNG booklet included)



1. 発動!
2
5. アクセス
6. ラスト・シーン
7. T
9. WAR AFTER
10. Endless Love Again
11. Never End(Instrumental Version)


Rheal Gall Force trck

01 Fly Me Away
02 Countdown Attack (Instrumental Version)
03 Get Ready For Fight



Mac DMG Image AES-256bit encrypted password.
Part 1 of 1 now purged.

Orie
08-06-2011, 10:28 AM
�Thanks. I ti will be good to replace my other version. :)

tangotreats
08-06-2011, 02:17 PM
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docrate1
08-06-2011, 03:34 PM
Not asking for a conversion for us poor PC users, but could you upload the booklet separately ? that would be very nice. :)

solaris8x86
08-06-2011, 03:57 PM
Not asking for a conversion for us poor PC users, but could you upload the booklet separately ? that would be very nice. :)


Can somebody work out a solution to mount Mac's DMG file on a PC? Has anybody already work it out today? I don't think poor is an excuse.... Mac is really cheap these days. Go get Mac-Mini or MacBook Air....

docrate1
08-06-2011, 04:21 PM
found a way, will PM for PW

tangotreats
08-06-2011, 04:31 PM
Mac is not cheap and everybody is entitled to their choice. And, like it or not, this is a PC and Windows world. I have no shortage of money and I will be in a box buried in the ground before I ever buy a Mac; it's bad enough that I have to use the things occasionally in my professional career.

It is not for us or anybody else to work out a way to open this silly proprietary format. It is for the uploader to consider the different platforms available today, not deliberately restrict his uploads to a minority of users, and upload in an open, easily accessed format - M4As inside a RAR archive is easy enough and everybody on the planet can open that without fuss. Why on earth spend hours ripping, scanning, uploading, and posting - but baulk at the prospect of spending ten minutes doing a bit of peripheral research into compression formats and archive containers?

No offence intended - but really, uploader, the onus is on you.

For the record, 7-Zip on PC allegedly opens DMGs - although it doesn't open this one presumably because, on top of everything else, it's password protected and we have to beg uploader for the password. :rolleyes:

solaris8x86
08-06-2011, 04:47 PM
You don't do humor very well do you ? o_O;;

which is more than the two third of the money on my bank account right now. as for the mac mini, I won't buy one because I don't need one. (the computer I use right now being less than 7 months old).


Kakka... What a funny guy! Is now in Europe really so horrible? (Debt Crisis).





Oh, and by the way, why do you share files in a mac-related disc image format instead of using another way (I mean, you could have created a PWed archive with your files) ? just curious.


There're RAR utilities on Mac. But none of them supports workload multi-threading on multi-core system. It takes couple hours to compress a BDISO (BD-50GB) into segments. I sick enough with it.

DMG is a native distribution format on Mac (Just like the ISO-9660). The primary advantage is that it supports on-the-fly decompression which takes no additional space during extraction. The UnRAR takes twice times of the disk space (the original one, and the extracted one). It also supports high end features like writeable on-the-fly without the need of pressing "Save" button when the content inside the DMG is altered. Its working concept is "Mount" and "Unmount" like on Linux or UNIX. It is very efficiency for managing its contents and distribution between Macs. Including embedding a password for the whole DMG file, or just within a directory folder....etc.

Sorry for making you guys trouble. But more and more DMG-based Anime CDs are coming... ng ng ng.... There're a lot of stuff I got in Japan.....ng ng ng.....

Even though you may bankrupt... still advise you to get a Mac....



Mac is not cheap and everybody is entitled to their choice. And, like it or not, this is a PC and Windows world. I have no shortage of money and I will be in a box buried in the ground before I ever buy a Mac; it's bad enough that I have to use the things occasionally in my professional career.

It is not for us or anybody else to work out a way to open this silly proprietary format. It is for the uploader to consider the different platforms available today, not deliberately restrict his uploads to a minority of users, and upload in an open, easily accessed format - M4As inside a RAR archive is easy enough and everybody on the planet can open that without fuss. Why on earth spend hours ripping, scanning, uploading, and posting - but baulk at the prospect of spending ten minutes doing a bit of peripheral research into compression formats and archive containers?

Like the first line of the thread already said that. It is for Mac OS X Users ONLY. Don't bother with it.....

tangotreats
08-06-2011, 05:01 PM
Solaris, I'm sure you're joking... but just in case you're not, 90% of the population of the world are happily using PCs and 90% of them are using Windows.

Point taken about BDISOs - but you're talking about dozens of gigabytes, and we're talking about a few hundred megabytes. A decent computer should be able to make a 400mb RAR archive in ten seconds. Are you really telling us there are no efficient, multithreaded applications for Macs that support creation and compression of the most common archive formats found on the internet?! And you're telling us to get a Mac because it will solve all our problems!

I cannot see why ANY distributor or uploader would provide their wares in DMG format - unless they were a militant Mac fascist who thought it's hilarious to deliberately deny PC users some goodies, to make up for their inferiority complex about owning a computer that costs twice as much for half the power, and had less than 10% market share...

Edit: Just tested - OK, I was wrong - just over thirty seconds to RAR 400mb. My original point stands.

---------- Post added at 05:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:57 PM ----------


Like the first line of the thread said. It is for Mac OS X Users ONLY. Don't bother with it.....


I can live without the bad attitude, thank you very much. It's a valid point to make. You are uploading stuff almost nobody can use, for basically no reason - and when people ask why you tell them to sod off. You will receive complaints, and completely justified ones at that.

solaris8x86
08-06-2011, 05:04 PM
Solaris, I'm sure you're joking... but just in case you're not, 90% of the population of the world are happily using PCs and 90% of them are using Windows.

Point taken about BDISOs - but you're talking about dozens of gigabytes, and we're talking about a few hundred megabytes. A decent computer should be able to make a 400mb RAR archive in ten seconds. Are you really telling us there are no efficient, multithreaded applications for Macs that support creation and compression of the most common archive formats found on the internet?! And you're telling us to get a Mac because it will solve all our problems!

I cannot see why ANY distributor or uploader would provide their wares in DMG format - unless they were a militant Mac fascist who thought it's hilarious to deliberately deny PC users some goodies, to make up for their inferiority complex about owning a computer that costs twice as much for half the power, and had less than 10% market share...

Edit: Just tested - OK, I was wrong - just over thirty seconds to RAR 400mb. My original point stands.

---------- Post added at 05:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:57 PM ----------




I can live without the bad attitude, thank you very much. It's a valid point to make. You are uploading stuff almost nobody can use, for basically no reason. You will receive complaints, and completely justified ones at that.

If it really happens. Sorry that I can't help. Downloads will be disabled and sharing is done, hereafter. So we finish. Isn't it the most expected result you want?

tangotreats
08-06-2011, 05:18 PM
If you really want to take that silly attitude, then it can't be helped.

My expected result that you might say "OK, I understand that almost nobody will be able to open my uploads, so I will spend a few minutes working out a way for everybody to hear them - thanks for your comment!". I certainly didn't expect "Don't bother! Mac users ONLY!" followed by "Fine, I won't share anything ever again! Happy now?!"

Your immaturity is not my fault or anybody else's.

docrate1
08-06-2011, 05:20 PM
Kakka... What a funny guy! Is now in Europe really so horrible? (Debt Crisis).

Usually I'm not vulgar on this board, but if you keep on using mockery, things are going to get nasty real quick.


There're RAR utilities on Mac. But none of them supports workload multi-threading on multi-core system. It takes couple hours to compress a BDISO (BD-50GB) into segments. I sick enough with it.

Then I could make you the same answer as you give us. get a PC.


technical speak yadda yadda yadda[...]

I still don't see any advantages here. only gadgets for uncautious people. and it may be quite efficient for distribution between macs, but macs are maybe 10 to 20% of the world computer population.


Sorry for making you guys trouble. But more and more DMG-based Anime CDs are coming... ng ng ng.... There're a lot of stuff I got in Japan.....ng ng ng...

Even though you may bankrupt... still advise you to get a Mac....

Sorry to say this...but you sound more and more like an idiot. ah well, guess what, i'll find a way to crack that little file you gave me. I'm a very persistent man.

solaris8x86
08-06-2011, 05:22 PM
Usually I'm not vulgar on this board, but if you keep on using mockery, things are going to get nasty real quick.



Then I could make you the same answer as you give us. get a PC.



I still don't see any advantages here. only gadgets for uncautious people. and it may be quite efficient for distribution between macs, but macs are maybe 10 to 20% of the world computer population.



Sorry to say this...but you sound more and more like an idiot. ah well, guess what, i'll find a way to crack that little file you gave me. I'm a very persistent man.


All agreed. Dismiss;) As long as I lose nothing. Like the subject said. After all, it is for Mad Users only. Since you can't have it. So you are not a Mad guy. Good to you!

tangotreats
08-06-2011, 05:47 PM
It is for Mad Users only.

Never a truer word spoken.

Sirusjr
08-06-2011, 05:48 PM
You remind me of a user who used to frequent this board and has had numerous usernames. Each time he left after someone mentioned they wanted a lossy version of his post, deleting every single share in anger. It seems like the music you are posting is quite rare, and should be spread around, so it is silly that you would post it in such formats where most users can't even open the files.

Do you seriously have such problems with computer space that you can't handle the duplicate files that sit on your computer for a short period of time while you are uploading a rar of your files? Most people aren't working with hard drives so full that an additional 400mb would cause their drives to fill up, or if they were they wouldn't be downloading 400mb lossless files.

docrate1
08-06-2011, 06:12 PM
Never a truer word spoken.

I Lol'd. :D

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strangely, now that I pointed out that the password he provided for a "test file" he sent me to make sure I could "read" dmg files is wrong, I don't get no answers anymore. By the way, paranoid, much ?:eye:

Vinphonic
08-06-2011, 06:18 PM
I always find it amusing that every cliche about Mac Users and their mindset seems to be always true. I have yet to find a Mac user who is able to convience me that Mac is superior to windows without resulting to butthurt defence responses when the other person actually has a better understanding of computer technology than they do.

NorikoTakaya
08-06-2011, 06:56 PM
Just the usual elitist Mac bullshit that runs around. I wouldn't own a Mac if you paid me to take it from you. And I've got a program that opens .dmg files in Windows, it's just that the password he provides to open the test file won't work even though he says it does on his computer. What a crock of shit. Why share the file in the first place if 90% of the people out there can't open it. Makes me angry enough to go search for them and buy the fucking things myself and post them in FLAC just to rain on his holier than thou Mac parade.

solaris8x86
08-06-2011, 07:16 PM
Just the usual elitist Mac bullshit that runs around. I wouldn't own a Mac if you paid me to take it from you. And I've got a program that opens .dmg files in Windows, it's just that the password he provides to open the test file won't work even though he says it does on his computer. What a crock of shit. Why share the file in the first place if 90% of the people out there can't open it. Makes me angry enough to go search for them and buy the fucking things myself and post them in FLAC just to rain on his holier than thou Mac parade.


Good to you too! Once you got it online. USA may gets back AAA. Support your own economics is what exactly I really want you to do! Bingo!

docrate1
08-06-2011, 07:44 PM
I have to say it. either you're a troll, or you're one of the most terrifying nutcase to ever haunt the shrine. what the hell are you ? a billionnaire ? an apple shareholder ? steve jobs in disguise ?

Oh, and for your information, if the US lose their AAA note, so does nearly every fucking country around. as in...Japan (if they haven't lost it already, what with the tsunami, the fukushima nuclear disaster and so on.).

BTW, last piece of info for the day: the mac intosh doesn't make apple successful. actually before the launch of the Ipod, and later of the the Igadgets (Iphone, Ipad, i'm waiting for the Idildo), apple was ready to go belly up, as the sales of the Imac were not that impressive.

Orie
08-06-2011, 07:45 PM
Dude. You are being immature and and very bad tempered. I am sure that everyone will thank more then enough for your files just like your other threads of borgman and leina. But this is getting over the edge. Mac in my country is not that cheap. Mac in my country is 10 times above of what gain a month in my work.
That is being more then bitch from your side :/
And that bullshit of economics..... please, if we could, we would all support our artists. Me for example..... I am not that rich to buy every soundtrack I want directly from japan, and there have never been japanese cds in my country.
So please, do not be this rude that you show yourself.
It would kill no one to share your files teh same way you shared borgman and leina.

LiquidAcid
08-06-2011, 08:05 PM
Hmm, I just do

mount -t hfs -o loop image.dmg /mountpoint
and can access the files then. Why all this fuss?

solaris8x86
08-06-2011, 08:13 PM
Hmm, I just do

mount -t hfs -o loop image.dmg /mountpoint
and can access the files then. Why all this fuss?

Bravo! That is the attitude who should have! Having multi-way thinking paths to bypass trouble meaning you are a senior player.

Orie
08-06-2011, 08:14 PM
how you do that? 0o?

LiquidAcid
08-06-2011, 08:15 PM
how you do that? 0o?
Uhm, by typing this command?

NorikoTakaya
08-06-2011, 08:15 PM
Hmm, I just do

mount -t hfs -o loop image.dmg /mountpoint
and can access the files then. Why all this fuss?

Because he will not provide you with a password until you can prove to him you can open his stupid little test file. And the password he gives does not work.

Orie
08-06-2011, 08:20 PM
I had download a program to see that worked, but if the password is wrong that might the reason I see nothing in the file :/

Vinphonic
08-06-2011, 09:03 PM
Oh for fucks sake, what stupid little game is this supposed to be. What is this "Right of passage" bullshit. Ever thought that there are people out there who are not programmers or have anything to do with IT at all. People who have other things to do than learn the interior mechanism of windows and don't own a Mad (for obvious reasons). I know it's relativly easy to access the files if you are accustomed to using windows for more than just playing games, office or browsing the internet but most people simply don't know all these functions. Sharing all of this for Mac users only is a silent "fuck you" to every PC user who would really appreciate your effort to upload the music on this forum to share it with us. Do it privatly then and not on a public board. You are a strange fellow, and based on your responses I have to assume you're not a bright one either.

LiquidAcid
08-06-2011, 09:07 PM
Because he will not provide you with a password until you can prove to him you can open his stupid little test file. And the password he gives does not work.
I never handled encrypted DMG containers, but AFAIK it's just aes256 applied to the whole container. So passing an additional encryption parameter to loop should do the trick. Occasionally it also helps to pipe the container from dmg2iso first, especially when additional compression is applied. Of course, under the condition that the password isn't correct, you're totally out of luck :D

Orie
08-06-2011, 09:16 PM
I think the Most Reasonable thing to do is.... ignoring his posts and by us trying to buy those cds by our ways and share it properly.
I quit with these kind of useless threads, specially if he is given us the wrong password. :/

docrate1
08-06-2011, 09:33 PM
Because he will not provide you with a password until you can prove to him you can open his stupid little test file. And the password he gives does not work.

So I'm not the only one. somewhat, that's conforting.

Synclow
08-06-2011, 09:34 PM
Sharing all of this for Mac users only is a silent "fuck you" to every PC user who would really appreciate your effort to upload the music on this forum to share it with us.

of course

i don't understand why people are thundering solaris only.

have you seen before any Old Animemusic Collector who likes to share rare stuff for the public?

answer it

solaris8x86
08-06-2011, 09:36 PM
I have seen a lot of funs here tonight.

Because of some immature teenagers are begging for favors in terms of resource with a false attitude. So they got nothing from the begging process due to just out of patient and not honestly obeying to the rule. This kind of matter is widely used to identify IFF in our society.

Firing to all direction at once doesn't make steps forward. The Gold is just inches away from your hand but you just kept facing backward to ignore it. Those well-behaved users whose are selected for direct-sharing will be PM contacted within 3 working days. If you do not get the notice. You know what to do.

Orie
08-06-2011, 09:44 PM
but if you really are giving us the wrong password for that file, how come can we even pass a "Test" if we do not see nothing unless the pass is correct?
Without that I can't even be sure if I have the right programs or not :/

docrate1
08-06-2011, 09:49 PM
of course

i don't understand why people are thundering solaris only.

have you seen before any Old Soundtrack Collector who likes to share rare stuff for the public?

answer it

hahaha

Matter of fact, yes I have Synclow. That was Einachi's blog and forum, where lots and lots of great stuff was uploaded by great guys, some of them collectors. I don't have a problem with the concept of being a collector. what I have a problem with, however, is conceited collectors. people who come onto the g*ddamn SHARING section of FFS but who put up such stupid conditions that maybe 3 to 4 people out of the few thousand on the shrine could get access to these files.

My point is, if he really wanted to share, he would do it openly. there are ways for people without a mac to open dmg files. but as long as he keeps having fun distributing false passwords, there's point in him sharing anything.

F*** it, i'm out of here.

solaris8x86
08-06-2011, 10:00 PM
but if you really are giving us the wrong password for that file, how come can we even pass a "Test" if we do not see nothing unless the pass is correct?
Without that I can't even be sure if I have the right programs or not :/


If you keep that file in your hand and one day you have chance to open it with a Mac using the provided PW.
Then Time-Will-Tell, certainly. After that, come back here to tell us the result.

Orie
08-06-2011, 10:32 PM
"Whoever Waits, Always Achieves"

NorikoTakaya
08-07-2011, 02:03 AM
I think right now the best thing to do would be to report every single thread he has started to get them removed. He obviously does not want to share his files with PC owners and I feel that his posting these soundtracks in an almost impossible to open format unless you have a Mac is his way of taunting everone. It's tantamount to bragging on his part and downright pettiness for not providing a separate release in a format acceptable to normal users.

Sirusjr
08-07-2011, 03:18 AM
Don't forget, you can add any user to your ignore list from their profile. I don't ignore many users but Solaris is now on my list.

docrate1
08-07-2011, 09:12 AM
Good Idea. Thanks for the hint, man !

tangotreats
08-07-2011, 03:10 PM
Hmm, I just do

mount -t hfs -o loop image.dmg /mountpoint
and can access the files then. Why all this fuss?

All very well in the land of Linux, my friend - less so for the other 95% of the population who use Windows. ;)

Uploading music in a format which is tied to a particular platform - or even simply favours a particular platform, is bizzare to say the least. It's like selling petrol but refusing to allow any type of car other than a 1968 Mini on the forecourt.

Personally, I think this guy is bonkers.

He believes that knowing how to mount an image on a minority operating system makes you a senior player. I wouldn't disagree with that, of course.

But I would think that spending five minutes making his uploads in a universally accessible format (ie, without horse-shitting around with power-user stuff, payware, or requiring a specific platform) would make him a senior player - and not a elitist child as he is coming across right now. ;)

LiquidAcid
08-07-2011, 03:35 PM
I think everyone is entitled to share files in the format they want. If the other party can't handle these file formats, then it's essentially their problem, not the problem of the person sharing the files. Like Sirusjr mentioned, you can very effectively ignore people here.

The attitude of certain Apple fanboys is of course a different topic.

tangotreats
08-07-2011, 03:43 PM
Of course, people can share what they like - but it does beg the question "Why share?" if you're clearly not interested in actually sharing; only making some statement about your chosen computer platform. I share because I want to share. I want as many people as possible to enjoy what I have. I upload in formats that everybody can open. There is absolutely no reason not to.

And I certainly don't understand why he would respond with such condescending arrogance to simple, valid questions.

Now I'm on some "naughty list" (as is everybody else in this thread who responded any way other than "wow, you're cool, Macs are great!") because I asked a simple question; why share in an inherently restricted format, that less than 10% of people can access easily, unless it isn't about the sharing at all, and is in fact about the Apple fanboy agenda.

Which is what I think this is about. ;)

LiquidAcid
08-07-2011, 04:18 PM
I upload in formats that everybody can open.
I think this is highly subjective. A format that probably the majority can open without installing any additional software is vanilla ZIP. Of course we probably both agree that ZIP isn't really the best format and should be avoided if possible.

From a technical standpoint these DMG contains are actually pretty neat, especially since HFS+ has both transparent compression and encryption features available.

Again from a technical standpoint RAR also isn't the best choice (closed source, patents, etc.). However it has kind of become the archive format that everyone can agree on. That's like MP3: The format and the underlying algorithms are hopelessly outdated, but because everyone uses it, it still continues to live on (although we have so much better alternatives like AAC and Vorbis).

I can't tell you which archive format is 'best'. I for myself use unix tar together with XZ-utils (sometimes plain 7zip), simply because it goes well with my workflow. And you Windows guys can open it without problems using 7zip. So I can use my beloved commandline (where I'm much faster than with clicking through various menus) and you can use your graphical tools. See, I also wouldn't change to e.g. RAR just because someone doesn't want to install 7zip on his system.

If he insists on sharing in that particular format, then you just have to accept this. You've asked if he can upload in a different format, his answer was no. Whatever his motivation is, if you want the files you have to deal with the situation. Again from a technical standpoint this is really no problem (provided that the password he has give you is correct), since the tools are available (I looked into it and dmg2img can handle both compressed and encrypted containers). If this is worth the time and effort, I cannot tell you -- you have to decide this for yourself.

tangotreats
08-07-2011, 04:39 PM
I haven't asked him if he could upload in another format; I asked him why he didn't. The answer could've been as simple as "I don't want to, sorry - take it or leave it" and that would've been the end of it.

RAR fits the concept of "everybody can open" because there are small, free tools available for every platform that enables one to open them. Closed source and patents do not matter a flying fig to average Joe who wants to open an archive container. If he doesn't have an UNRAR package, he can get himself one in about five seconds.

You are telling me I have to accept it, and you're working on the assumption that I care! I don't! (I'm not interested in his uploads personally.) I just want to publically ask the gentleman why he deliberately uploads in such a clearly obtuse format and allow his response to speak for itself - which it has clearly done. Anybody who treats file sharing as a way to promote his insane system bias has his heart in the wrong place. That's all I want to say, and all I am trying to clarify.

DMG is great technically, as you say, but that's all academic. From the perspective of this forum, an archive is a way to send lots of files at once. Nobody cares about encryption, filesystem, licence status of the source code, etc, because they don't matter in this context. 7z is easily decompressed on any system. A small download enables any system to unpack it.

7Zip also unpacks DMG as far as I know - at least, the website says it does but I can't get these files open - perhaps this relates to the password problem but who knows? :)

Edit: Ah, DMG2IMG exists for Windows as well! That's good. So, there is a relatively easy way of doing it. My comments about OP's attitude stand.

LiquidAcid
08-07-2011, 04:55 PM
So, there is a relatively easy way of doing it.
That was essentially my whole point.

However it doesn't really matter, if you don't care for the files (like me, I just found this interesting since I didn't have to deal with encrypted DMG containers before).

docrate1
08-07-2011, 06:03 PM
Technically, 7zip should work. problem is, it doesn't even recognize these files as archive. and other softwares I tried were able to open dmg files, but couldn't open the "test" OP sent me because of a problem of invalid password. And my knowledge stops here. I don't have enough knowledge to try to crack the password of the file. should be abc123, but the various utilities tell me "invalid password".

I'll try on a mac if I have an occasion, just to take a screeshot telling me the password is invalid, for the lulz. And great justice.

tangotreats
08-07-2011, 06:06 PM
Hopefully, for the benefit of those who want this album, somebody sensible will offer an upload in the future. Somebody without a stupendously bad attitude and an unhealthy fixation with sharing music in minority formats that, to all intents and purposes, nobody can open without a fight...

LiquidAcid
08-07-2011, 06:45 PM
Technically, 7zip should work. problem is, it doesn't even recognize these files as archive.
That's because the container is encrypted.


I don't have enough knowledge to try to crack the password of the file.
With a strong crypto like AES you're out of luck.

docrate1
08-07-2011, 07:22 PM
With a strong crypto like AES you're out of luck.

Even with the weakest crypto on earth, I'd be out of luck :p

Synclow
08-08-2011, 01:10 AM
Matter of fact, yes I have Synclow.


Seriously? I prefer don't talk about it. Believe.

Also, if you have ethic, keep this thread in forgetfulness now. It's a suggestion.

keeping this thread alive will not convince solaris uploading the soundtrack

Understand it

tangotreats
08-08-2011, 11:12 AM
Would Solaris consider publicising the password to these files and allowing somebody to download, extract into a sensible archive container, and re-upload for the benefit of others?