Raiders of the Lost Ark
LEAKED version


This is the version that leaked a couple of months before the official 2008 expanded release. The sound quality of all tracks is the same as the 1995 DCC expanded release, wich is the preferred version of many.
I posted this for the first time at the good-old Lossless thread, then I reposted only the unreleased tracks belonging to this release. Now I'm posting everything back again. :)


01 In the Jungle (4:12)
02 The Idol's Temple (4:01)
03 Escape From the Temple (1:36)
04 Flight from Peru (2:25)
05 Washington Men / Indy's Home (1:13)�
06 A Thought for Marion_To Nepal (2:19)
07 The Medallion (2:55)
08 Flight to Cairo (1:31)
09 The Basket Game (4:50)�
10 Bad Dates (1:24)�
11 The Map Room: Dawn (3:55)
12 Reunion in the Tent / Searching for the Well (4:13)
13 The Well of the Souls (5:29)
14 Indy Rides the Statue (2:09)�
15 The Fist Fight / The Flying Wing (4:38)
16 Desert Chase (7:41)�
17 Marion's Theme / The Crate (2:10)
18 The German Sub (1:17)
19 Ride to the Nazi Hideout (3:20)
20 Indy Follows the Ark (1:40)
21 The Miracle of the Ark (6:08)
22 Washington Ending & Raiders March (6:49)*
�Released officialy in 2008
�Contains alternate and unreleased music, not present in any official release
�Edited to mirror the original 1981 Polydor release
*Complete version without the fades from the 2008 official release

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And, exclusive to the double-LP version, the complete "Well of the Souls". The official 2008 release was named "Uncovering the Ark" on the 4th (bonus) disc and omitted the last 40 seconds.

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... The sound quality of all tracks is the same as the 1995 DCC expanded release, wich is the preferred version of many.

... Not at all. :coolegg: The sound quality has nothing to do here. This one sounds very loud and "deep" (reason why they rejected it, as I've heard), and even the mix is different: it uses the 24-tracks master tapes, unfortunately a bit too flattened here imho: details, as minor instruments that ponctuate the score vanish. The DCC uses the film mix and has been especially mastered by Steve Hoffman.


It gives me the occasion to thank you though as it seems you're the one I got it from, always interesting.

Thank you! I don't know why I never realized that the 2008 release omitted the last 30-40 seconds of Well of the Souls/Uncovering the Ark/(The Nazis Arrive, etc). So this is definitely worth having for that, and also for the Mummy Cave music. Very nice, thank you!

Ariel, just curious - I know that the 2008 release has the album version of Desert Chase, whereas the DCC version has the film version. Are there any other instances where the film version is only present on the DCC, or vice versa? Just wondering.

What do you mean complete version without fades for the end credits? The version I have is 6;51, and I think it is the 2008 version?

The basket chase and truck chase have been edited to the original lp release? That cuts out the extended bits of these? Why?

Sorry, I am just curious, not meaning to be critical. I do appreciate the upload, I am taking the extended Indy rides the Statue, and Well of the Souls, and swapping them out of the extended release. :D The truck chase and basket chase were my favorites from the original lp, (which I had, new on release...I'm old sigh), and I was very, very happy to get the extended versions. Just sorta wondering why one would edit them back down?

Thank you! I don't know why I never realized that the 2008 release omitted the last 30-40 seconds of Well of the Souls/Uncovering the Ark/(The Nazis Arrive, etc). So this is definitely worth having for that, and also for the Mummy Cave music. Very nice, thank you!

Ariel, just curious - I know that the 2008 release has the album version of Desert Chase, whereas the DCC version has the film version. Are there any other instances where the film version is only present on the DCC, or vice versa? Just wondering.

Can I get clarification? DCC is..? The original expanded release, before the 08? And it has the expanded truck chase? That is the film version? If so, then I believe the basket chase which is also expanded is also a film version? Sigh. Too many albums, so little brain cells....:(

Ok, yea, I got it. I hace the DCC as disc. :D The truck chase is 8:15 on that, as opposed to 7:32 on the 08 expanded, and 7:41 on the one posted here.

The basket chase on the DCC is 5:04 on the DCC, 5:02 on the 08 expanded, and 4:50 on this one. Looks like i need to take the expanded , and swap out the Dcc tracks along with these....hmmmm.

oh, and I see now about the end credits, the DCC is only 5:20.....

So with The Basket Chase, which one would be the film version? The DCC version or the 08 expanded? I know it's only 2 seconds difference, but just curious.

All of the times on the DCC are different than the expanded by a second or two. So I would bet The Basket Game on both are the same.

Also, the expanded seems to have split cues from the DCC. The DCC version of In The Idol Temple runs 5:26. The expanded is 3:55, followed by Escape From The Temple @ 1:33.....for instance.

To clarify what I said, and if my infos are right and I think they are: The DCC uses the film mix as a source for the release... The whole of it then. And fortunately, the film mix provides the cues in their complete form for most as far as I know.

... But don't confuse "Version" and "Mix".


The mix is how the multi-track tapes are assembled. And I'd bet even the 2008 version using the 24-track master tapes is not the same mix as the 1980 album using the same multi-tracks as source... But I may mistake and perhaps they used the exact same masters wich would explain the cut outs, then I can't understand how it comes that the orchestra sounds so flat next to the 1980 OST.

The film mixes when it comes to Eric Tomlinson's recordings sound more as live recordings (remember, he used to do both 24-track tapes and 8-track live recordings during the sessions. So just a guess from me about what the film mix really is...). The 24-track tapes should allow to chose and highlight all the details we would miss on a live take. The 1980 OST shows some goodies about this, and I posted a speed & pitch-corrected remastered version of it completed and combined with the DCC and everything else a couple of month back. I'm sorry if you missed it guys...

Edit: should I make a thread ?... I didn't cause it's something not done for completist still... Unless you think of a more "complete" orchestra for several cues. But the sound is a blast.

When this version leaked, it was considered a "prototype" of what would become the official 2008 release. Some people said that they couldn't locate the multi-track tapes for "The Basket Game" and "Desert Chase" and they woudn't use the DCC masters because it was 2-track only and some "generations away" from the master tapes they had, so they used the multi-track tapes that were already edited for preparing the 1981 album. But, apparently, they were able to locate the complete multi-track for "The Basket Game", but not for "Desert Chase"... pitty!

Well, that's what I read at the time...

Exact. The DCC is only a 2nd hand generation stereo film mix I should have precised.

... Proof that someone who knows his job can make better with much less !






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If it helps, that missing segment is called "Marion into the Pit [8m2]"

What missing segment?

What missing segment?

It's the (40 second or so) cue that's tagged onto the end of "The Well of Souls" on the DCC 2LP set. "The Well of Souls" on that album being the combined cues of "The Well of Souls" and "Uncovering The Ark" on the 2008 Boxed Set.

The DCC is not 2 dsic though? Mine is a single disc album.

The DCC is not 2 dsic though? Mine is a single disc album.
The LP (Long Playing record album) version is 2 discs (or, records rather). The album presents "The Well of Souls", "Uncovering The Ark" and "Marion Into The Pit" as one (nearly 12 minute long, I believe) cue, whereas the CD version only has "The Well of Souls" cue, not the other 2. Then the 2008 expanded reissue dropped and gave us "Uncovering The Ark" on Disc 5.

If anyone is interested, I did a little editing job myself with two tracks:

First is "Uncovering the Ark". I took the 2008 official version and edited with the last 40 seconds of the double-LP version. I manually removed many clicks and pops from the LP (the automatic setting ruins the audio very badly) and I did a little EQ to match the LP with the 2008 version. So, maybe, I can say this is a very clean version. Now it's up to you if you want to edit with "Well of the Souls" like the double-LP did or just let it play the way it is.

Then, comes "Indy Rides the Statue". I also took the 2008 release and edit together with the last half of "Indy Rides the Statue" from this leaked version, again with a little EQ to match the official release. So, again, maybe, I can say this is very close to the film version using the available music.

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That's hilarious! :D

.. Haha ! :)


Nice thread, I didn't want to make a thread and didn't know where to share ABC's "private" version.
So let me post that here. Though incomplete because he didn't want too much action tracks to spoil the ARK thematic drama tone through the score. I'm also aware it misses one bar (a repetition) in the Dersert Chase track.
Despite it seems everyone wants the most "official" and "complete" thing at once about this score, I really wanted to share it because that's more than worth to listen to it for the remastered and pitch-restored + completed 1981 Polydor album, wich mixing - though not always perfect - is still showing what still misses the most to more recent releases. Just for an idea of the work here, I remember the "Desert Chase" and the "Well Of Souls" to have more than a dozen of cuts for reediting... But I can hardly tell where.
The overall score sounds ... Powerful.


ABC's "Private" Raiders (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7NWNPFUD) (edit: PHBart unfortunately spotted the album parts for being fake lossless ! Sorry)

Reedited and Remastered from:
The 1981 Original Album (OST) All speed/pitch corrected
The 1995 Expanded DCC Release
The 2008 Unprocessed "Raiders" Prototype for the Concord Release
The 2008 Concord Release (here track 12pt 2, and partially track 13)


1. In The Jungle / The Idol's Temple 7'55"
Pt1: DCC / Pt2: OST restored and completed with DCC + 2008 Prototype clean ending
2. The Rolling Ball 1'31"
DCC
3. Flight From Peru 2'20"
OST
4. The Book 1'09"
2008 Prototype
5. Thinking Of Marion / To Tibet 2'11"
DCC
6. The Medallion 2'51"
DCC
7. To Cairo 1'32"
OST, completed with DCC
8. Escape In The Alleys 5'03"
OST completed with DCC intro
9. Poisoned Dates 1'18"
2008 Prototype
10. The Map Room: Dawn 3'53"
OST
11. Reunion In The Tent 4'11"
DCC
12. The Well Of The Souls / Uncovering The Ark 10'52"
Pt1: OST restored and completed with DCC / Pt2: Concord bonus track
13. Escaping The Pit 3'03" (edit)
2008 Prototype edited and completed with Concord
14. Truck Chase 8'05"
OST restored and completed with DCC
15. En Bateau 2'08"
OST restored and completed with DCC
16. Ark Trek 1'32"
DCC
17. The Miracle Of The Ark 6'04"
OST
18. Raiders Of The Lost Ark 6'57"
Pt1: DCC / Pt2: OST


What's not on this version:

1m3 Insert (Replaces 0:00-0:03 of 1m3) 0:09 Officially Unreleased
8m2 Marion Into The Pit 0:36 DCC LP 12 The Well Of Souls (10:41-end)
8m3 Fix 2 0:42 Officially Unreleased
8m5 Fist Fight 4:37
10m5 The German Sub 1:23
10m6 The Nazi Hideout 3:20

...

It contains all the POLYDOR version, every tiny part of it.

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If it helps, that missing segment is called "Marion into the Pit [8m2]"

Why not just giving your source ?

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pcwG35u2Go2U0GCQLDFCKPA&gid=0 (The whole Polydor is wrong pitched though, while they just speak about one track).

... Or...

www.IndianaJonesMusic.com: RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK (1981) (http://www.indianajonesmusic.com/2008/11/raiders-of-lost-ark-1981.html)

Thanks. =)

The "ABC" version is indeed impressive and... well, I'd rather be quiet about it because I'm sure it took a lot of time and dedication from whoever did it. But tracks 3, 7, 8, 10, 14, 15, 17 and 18 are fake lossless!!! Track 12 is half fake and half true lossless. Screen caps:

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The "ABC" version is indeed impressive and... well, I'd rather be quiet about it because I'm sure it took a lot of time and dedication from whoever did it. But tracks 3, 7, 8, 10, 14, 15, 17 and 18 are fake lossless!!! Track 12 is half fake and half true lossless. Screen caps:


Hahaha !!! lol !

Too bad... Always check the sources ! ;-) I know he only had the DCC as physical CD and he borrowed everything else from the net. (And he always said not to be a sound specialist).
I checked myself in Audacity and I'm amazed the spectral doesn't show lossy parts in it while it will be obvious on any mp3's... (?).

Well, now I feel ashamed to present a fake that way...:erm:

Thank you and yes: you're right to speak. Fooling ourselves is yet the worst thing we can do.
I just edited my post to report this btw.

Now I find this really interesting cause making the same thing - in lossless - well, I don't dare thinking what it would result in.

My source of the titles is the conductors score lol

Aaaahhhh.... Oooohhh !!!

There's some unofficial expanded Indy scores I can get:

- Raiders of the Lost Ark (20 tracks)
- Temple of Doom (22 tracks, with complete Well of Souls)
- Last Crusade (2CDs, 61 tracks)

Hey, Tak....anything along those lines is welcome by me.

Indeed...

There's some unofficial expanded Indy scores I can get:

- Raiders of the Lost Ark (20 tracks)
- Temple of Doom (22 tracks, with complete Well of Souls)
- Last Crusade (2CDs, 61 tracks)

I think you have not reported correctly the tracks, Temple of Doom doesn't contain any "Well of Souls" track, instead Raiders does.

Moreover, are you talking about the 25th Anniversary Raiders CD?

If yes, that edition has 20 tracks including the complete "Desert Chase" (8:15 min.) and "Well of Souls" (11:15 min.) ones.

Sorry my mistake! Im not a Williams fan at all, so I didnt realise my error. I dont know if its an anniversary edition or not.

Well, as far as I know, the only 20-tracks CD of Raiders available, is the 25th Anniversary edition, so I guess that it's the one you're talking about :).

I LOVE this film like it was my first born child.
Great score. A real classic.
Thanks

Very cool!

Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I cannot seem to find the leaked version of Raiders anywhere else on the net. Could someone re-post this version of "Indy Rides the Statue"? Thanks.

Sorry my mistake! Im not a Williams fan at all, so I didnt realise my error. I dont know if its an anniversary edition or not.

Hey KaFarag, there is a expanded CD of KOTCS (Indy 4) here: http:\\ARK Soundtrack SQUARE (http://www.arksquare.net/index_main.html), do you think you could get it?

here is the tracklist:

Desert Chase is edited in the same way on the official release. It's just mixed differently (the brass is panned straight to the center, for instance)

Anyone can re up please!

Hey KaFarag, there is a expanded CD of KOTCS (Indy 4) here: http:\\ARK Soundtrack SQUARE (http://www.arksquare.net/index_main.html), do you think you could get it?

here is the tracklist:


That's merely a fake version, AFAIK, don't get your hopes up :/ Its pretty much the entire album cut into smaller cues, badly edited I must say. Deleted immediately after I got it, plus the quality was terrible. The alternates credits is just raiders march combined with various other pieces throughout the score, and I believe part of the credits is direct DVD rip. Indy's piano is self explanatory.

hey masterZ, was "Harolds help" just a bit from the album? because there is a fanfare that was cut from the album right after "The Snake Pit" in the film.

hey masterZ, was "Harolds help" just a bit from the album? because there is a fanfare that was cut from the album right after "The Snake Pit" in the film.

Yep, everything was from the album :/

that sucks, I thought it would be good, seeing how the previous boots for Raiders and TLC seemed to be by the same "Label"..

that sucks, I thought it would be good, seeing how the previous boots for Raiders and TLC seemed to be by the same "Label"..

yeah I was disappointed to. been looking all over for extra music from KOTCS, still no luck -.-

should I find anything it shall be posted here immediately :D

Anyone still have this?

going to ask for a re-upload. plese? :)