TheGreatShoutOuts
05-17-2011, 12:23 AM
Anybody have this?

01. 1M1 King Kong MT
02. 1M1 King Kong MT alt
03. 1M1S Song lntro
04. 1M2 Ann & Manny
05. 1M3 Ann & Weston
06. 1M4 Viewing Footage
07. 1M5 The Map
08. 1M6 Carl Steals Footage
09. 1M6 Carl Steals Footage TK 11
10. 1M6 Carl Steals Footage TK 14
11. 1M6 Carl Steals Footage TK 25
12. 1 M7 Carl Finds Ann
13. 2M1 Carl Convinces Ann
14. 2M2 Venture
15. 2M2V6ALT Venture
16. 2M2V7 Venture
17. 2M4 Delaying Jack
16. 2M4A Predelaying Jack
19. 2M5 Boat Leaves Harbour
20. 2M6A Bruce Hangs Poster
21. 2M6B Jimmy
22. 2M7 Ann Rehearses in Mirror
23. 2M6A Ann Meets Jack
24. 2M6B Bruce & Jimmy
25. 2M9 Jimmy 0verhears
26. 2M10 Filming on the Boat
27. 2M10 TK 279 Filming on the Boat
28. 2M10 TK 281 Filming on the Boat
29. 3M1 The Crew is Nervous
30. 3M2 Montage
31. 3M3 There Are No Stars
32. 3M4 Wall
33. 3M5A Breach
34. 3M5B Skull lsland
35. 3M5BALT Skull lsland
36. 3M5BALT2 Skull lsland
37. 3M6 The Village
38. 4M1 The Natives
39. 4M2 The Fight
40. 4M3A Saved By The Crew
41. 4M3B Ann is Kidnapped
42. 4M4 Sacrifice pt1
43. 4M5 Arming the Crew
44. 4M6 Sacrifice pt2
45. 4M7 Kong Appears
46. 4M6 Trek to Save Ann
47. 4M9 Kong Buns
48 4M10 Crew in Boneyard
49. 5M1 Footprint
50. 5M2 Stampede
51. 5M3 Baptors
52. 5M4 Heroes Don't Look Like Me
53. 5M5ATK676 Ann Tries to Escape
54. 5M5AV16 Ann Tries to Escape
55. 5M5AV18 Ann Tries to Escape
56. 5M5B Buins
57. 5M6 Crew Finds Kong-Log
57. 5M8 Crew Finds Kong-Log
58. 8M1 Lizards
59. 8M2 T Bex & Ann
60. 8M3 T Bex & Kong Fight
61. 8M4 Vines
62. 8M5 Jawbreaker
63. 8M8 Dead Crew Members
64. 8M7 Beautiful
65. 7M1 Carl Gets Idea
66. 7M3 In Kongs Arms
67. 7M4 Jack in Graveyard
68. 7M5 Kong Awakes-Bats
69. 7M8 Chases Ann & Jack
70. 7M8A Ann Walks Thru the Gate
71. 7M7A Now
72. 7M7B To the Boats
73. 7M8 Chloroform
74. 7M8 Theater
75. 7M8A You're Writing a Comedy
78. 7M10V3 Jack Fieflects
77. 7M10V4 Jack Fieflects
78. 8M1 Beauty Stayed His Hand
79. 8M1ALT Beauty Stayed His Hand
80. 8M3 Kong Sees Jack
81. 8M4 Kong Chases Jack
82. 8M5 Macy's half strgs
83. 8M5 Macy's smaII
84. 8M8 Army Attacks
85. 8M7 Climbs Empire State BIdg
86. 8MS1 Steiner V1
87. 8MS1 Steiner V2
88. 8MS1 Steiner V3
89. 8MS1 Steiner V4
90. 8MS2 Steiner
91. 8MS3 Steiner
92. 8MS4 Steiner
93. 8MS5 Steiner
94. 8MS6 Steiner
95. 8MS8 Steiner
96. 8M1 PIanes
97. 8M2 2nd Attack
98. 8M3A Jack Enters BuiIding
99. 8M3B 3rd Attack
100. 9M3Balt 3rd Attack
101. 9M4BlG Beauty Killed the Beast
102. 9M4NWW Beauty Killed the Beast
103. 9M4W-WW Beauty Killed the Beast
104. EC Steiner Fanfare

DAKoftheOTA
05-17-2011, 02:06 AM
Good call, it's about time someone made a thread about this. I'd kill to have this

jedisaurus
05-17-2011, 03:26 AM
WOW! I have been searching for this forEVER! If anybody locates it please, PLEASE post it. I will search too. Best of luck!

stardragon978
06-19-2011, 11:12 PM
Even though I didn't find the music in the film entirely engaging, count me in if this ever gets found (would be very interesting to hear).

Pooptart19
06-20-2011, 12:40 AM
Does this even exist?

JonC
06-20-2011, 01:21 AM
Sigh.
These are lists of what was recorded, or suppose to be recorded for the movie. Like a lot of these lists that have been popping up recently, this is a list only and not connected to any music that anybody has ever released or is ever planning to release. They are registered with organizations like ASCAP, or, as is in this case, with the USC archives. Keep in mind, the ASCAP source is only a list of what was recorded, not the recordings themselves. USC has the SHEET MUSIC, and nothing else. Typically, either the studio, or more rarely the composer has the recording sessions masters themselves. Occasionally, someone else gets a copy, and recording sessions become available. But a list has nothing to do with whether it is available, or anybody has it, or anybody ever has. These lists are kept around even after the recordings themselves are lost.

EVERY MOVIE EVER MADE generates a list like this. The existence, content, or publication of such lists is independent of the music itself. It is a reference, nothing more.

The drag is, the detail of such lists create an impression of their availability, even if all someone has is the list. This is compounded, when some overly optimistic soul creates polished album covers of same, further perpetuating the myth that somebody has the score and just isn't letting it out. (Except of course, the master's owners, who are not under any obligation to to publish them.)

So to sum up. This list is air. Detailed, authoritative, accurate, air.
JonC

KaFaraqGatri
06-20-2011, 07:34 AM
These are lists of what was recorded, or suppose to be recorded for the movie... Typically, either the studio, or more rarely the composer has the recording sessions masters themselves. Occasionally, someone else gets a copy, and recording sessions become available.

Ergo, its unfair and inaccurate to say that just because this list shows all the cues, it doesnt mean the sessions do not exist on CD. Both outcomes -- ASCAP list and a 3CD set existing -- are possible...

cheeseparty67
06-20-2011, 08:11 AM
More then possible. I'm fully aware of several people that have the King Kong recording sessions, as listed here, in their collection. Sadly, this is yet another case in which anyone who leaks this will be burned at the steak by the head honchos and collectors of rare soundtracks such as this, so none of whom will share freely and openly.

What I can tell you is that it is indeed a 3CD set, 105 tracks, and 235 minutes total.

desmus55
06-20-2011, 09:25 AM
All I got to say is this. If this were made readily available for sale, I'd be the first to buy.

JonC
06-20-2011, 03:22 PM
Ergo, its unfair and inaccurate to say that just because this list shows all the cues, it doesnt mean the sessions do not exist on CD. Both outcomes -- ASCAP list and a 3CD set existing -- are possible...
It is neither unfair nor inaccurate. I didn't say they didn't exist. I have no clue whether they do or not. I'm saying that a list does not prove their existence. And it doesn't. Films for which the masters have been lost, (Return of the Jedi, for instance,) still can generate lists. In that case the best one could hope for, (other than a rerecording,) is the stems, which also have the final mix levels, basically like an isolated score. TheGreatShoutOut posted a list and said does anybody has this. Until somebody else, (like cheeseparty67,) actually comes forward and says I know absolutely that there are people who have it, and I'm not being snowed, (he is saying that, right?) than it's still air, and likely to send people on wild goose chases. What would be more useful is: I have heard that somebody (sources if possible,) has a 3 CD, 105 track, 235 minute session recordings for James Howard Newton's King Kong, does anybody else have it who is willing to share?
Frankly, if anybody here had it who was willing to share it, they would have done so. (Especially for a score that came out six years ago.) Giving the actual track list is a meaningless distraction. At best it can be used as a guide to evaluate the authenticity of the albums after they have turned up. (To distinguish, say, between recording sessions and an isolated Blu-Ray score.)
I have no interest in this score. I'm quite happy with the Steiner original. However, I respect the interest by others for this score and wish them luck in finding it.
JonC

KaFaraqGatri
06-20-2011, 05:12 PM
Well the age of a movie has nothing to do with how fast its leaked. Its dependent on a lot of other factors. But sometimes one of those ASCAP lists does prove something exists once someone verifies it - Hybrid Soldier already did this on Hans-Zimmer.com.

JonC
06-21-2011, 02:11 AM
Yes.
I just said that.
But it's value is AFTER it's leaked for confirmation, not as a preemptive statement of desire. That just leads to a lot running and screaming by well intended fans who do not understand exactly what they are reading. Posting an ASCAP track list without first ascertaining that ANYBODY has the music is putting the cart before the horse. Find out if the music is around first, and THEN use the ASCAP list to check its veracity. (And when I mean around, I mean that an actual line on an actual collection of files based on specific, definitive information and not just a shot in the dark.)
Best of luck with your search,
JonC

KaFaraqGatri
06-21-2011, 02:13 AM
Find out if the music is around first, and THEN use the ASCAP list to check its veracity.JonC

And I did check, and it exists. Its already been discussed on other forums.

JonC
06-21-2011, 03:20 AM
That's great. Good news. I've haven't noticed anybody talking about it here, so here it is premature.
After somebody on this forum has a line on a line on a specific source, and not just that they heard somebody talk about it somewhere else, then posting a list makes more sense. We haven't even crossed that line yet.
When there was all the falderal about the Avatar Complete, it was because the man at the core of it claimed to know a specific individual who had it and was in the process of securing same. It still caused a hysteria, but at least it was connected to hard information. Right now I'm seeing people prematurely posting tracklistings for regular albums, and its causing exaggerated reactions because people assume that because there is a list, they must have an album, and have it now. And indeed there is, but with release date a month or more away.

I'm not saying people shouldn't make requests, or that people shouldn't ask about things that are not yet proven to exist. In the end, that's how a lot of oddities come to light. I don't have problems with intend, only with the tactics. The list is a useful tool, when properly applied. Improperly applied, it wastes effort and energy, energy that can be better applied in working on the ultimate objective... the music itself. There is a time and a place for ASCAP lists, and this isn't it, not yet.
Respectfully,
JonC

Amanda
06-21-2011, 06:55 AM
I think these lists are popping up more and more, especially from the Zimmer site. Jon is right that it is just causing some of us to get way over excited, but, some of this stuff recently has come out. I am thinking of the two Batman scores in particular. The rumors and lists for those circulated for a bit before they got shared, driving fans into quite a frenzy.

Return of the Jedi's masters are lost? That affects the chance of a newly mastered "complete" score then?

Rad�Max
06-21-2011, 06:59 AM
I was just thinking of this, i was wondering if there's really a longer or possibly a complete score for King Kong the other night as I made an upgrade to my former JNH Kong soundtrack...the good news will come till this becomes available either for purchase or you know... :)

Amanda
06-21-2011, 07:04 AM
Am I missing something about this score? It is fine enough, and I adore the movie, but the score didn't just scream out for attention to me. Yet, it seems to be well sought after? I should find it, and listen.....

JonC
06-21-2011, 03:06 PM
Return of the Jedi's masters are lost? That affects the chance of a newly mastered "complete" score then?

That is my understanding. I've been on the hunt for, well decades, for the sail barge music. When even the four disc complete version had it with SFX, I asked about, and was told that the masters were gone. Since then I've gotten a better, full length version, edited into a single track (from 3 separate cues.) Devoid of SFX, they may be an isolated score, but feel more like they came from the stems. As with either source, it has problems with the levels fluctuating. I'm quite happy with it, and don't expect anything better unless someone decides to rerecord it.
How Lucas could lose the master recordings for a Star Wars movie is beyond all sense and reason, he seems to have saved everything else, but there you are.
JonC

sweetmeats
06-21-2011, 06:35 PM
Unfortunately, crap gets lost all the time. How a "Trailer Company" could lose the first music composed by John Williams for Sorcerer's Stone is beyond me but the bastards did it.

jaroshulk28
06-21-2011, 07:42 PM
Let's just have it already!

Amanda
06-21-2011, 09:43 PM
There's nothing to have......

The list is there, and I guess some have the score, but no one is suggesting it will be available to us mere mortals any time soon.....:/

JonC
06-22-2011, 02:15 AM
Let's just have it already!

Yes.
This is my point.
People read a list like this and assume that an album is imminently arriving.
Here's what happening. TheGreatShoutOut posted a list, out of context, and hoping that maybe somebody possibly somewhere had the music to back it up. He doesn't. Cheeseparty67 claims to have seen proof that they exist in album form, but offers no sources or time table for posting in this forum, if ever. Takehiro says, yes, he's heard other people on other boards talking about it, but he too has not said anything about it being posted here, ever. I have no information about it existing or not, and am not looking for it.
So.
Right now, there's nothing. It may exist, but nobody here has it, and nobody here is offering it.
That may change, but I'm not holding my breath.
JonC

cheeseparty67
06-22-2011, 02:45 AM
It's not necessarily a matter of a time table. These things leaking are about as unpredictable as anything. They're always out there, being secretly traded in the underground left and right, kept as under wraps as possible, until some willing blissful soul comes along and slaps it on a forum. You can't predict something like that. It's not like there's a quota of time until the studio says, "okay, put it online if you want now, it's been long enough already." That hardly ever happens, especially with Remote Control Productions.

If you want information on how to contact my sources, who have this particular CD set available and are willing to sell it, then power to you to pm me. Posting my sources right here, right now, (who by the way have people that watch this forum like hawks) for everyone to see, would be idiotic. That's why I didn't offer any sources in the first place, because I've almost gotten burned at the steak by them several times for sharing this kind of stuff.

That's why it's so irritating when I read things like "WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET THIS ALREADY??" from random posters. It's out there, they always are. If you don't have any friends in high places, and you really want it for yourself, do your homework. Find the right sources. Contact collectors, independent composers even. Ask around. It's not that hard. These things just don't land in your lap immediately. I mean how do you think Batman Begins and The Dark Knight got leaked? Someone got off their lazy..uhrm..."buttocks".., found a collector who had it and was willing to sell it, shelled out the big bucks, screwed over everyone involved in the deal by posting it on a forum, and then voila.

JonC
06-22-2011, 03:00 AM
What he said.
JonC

Nicoslink
06-23-2011, 10:31 AM
God damned! It would be great to find these recording sessions! Can we sign a petition?
I'm trying to rip some tracks from the DVD but there's a lot of SFX!
Oh, If you want the song wich follow the Main Title, it's "Sittin' on top of the world" by Al Jolson and the ceremony tracks have been reorchestrated from the original Max Steiner's score for King Kong (1933).

tom_1984
06-27-2011, 04:25 PM
I'm ready to KILL for this one!

franklin_d
07-02-2011, 06:37 PM
yeah but I think sonner or later some nice guy will let them out.
I remember the tracklist for the complete TERMINATOR SALVATION score leaked shortly after the movie came out and that one also took a while to get through. Same with the BATMAN scores. So I think we'll have it someday in the near future :-)

Rad�Max
07-06-2011, 04:30 PM
yeah but I think sonner or later some nice guy will let them out.
I remember the tracklist for the complete TERMINATOR SALVATION score leaked shortly after the movie came out and that one also took a while to get through. Same with the BATMAN scores. So I think we'll have it someday in the near future :-)


then well just have to wait.... :)


bump :D

Compos_JSJ
07-15-2011, 06:28 PM
Sigh.
These are lists of what was recorded, or suppose to be recorded for the movie. Like a lot of these lists that have been popping up recently, this is a list only and not connected to any music that anybody has ever released or is ever planning to release. They are registered with organizations like ASCAP, or, as is in this case, with the USC archives. Keep in mind, the ASCAP source is only a list of what was recorded, not the recordings themselves. USC has the SHEET MUSIC, and nothing else. Typically, either the studio, or more rarely the composer has the recording sessions masters themselves. Occasionally, someone else gets a copy, and recording sessions become available. But a list has nothing to do with whether it is available, or anybody has it, or anybody ever has. These lists are kept around even after the recordings themselves are lost.

EVERY MOVIE EVER MADE generates a list like this. The existence, content, or publication of such lists is independent of the music itself. It is a reference, nothing more.

The drag is, the detail of such lists create an impression of their availability, even if all someone has is the list. This is compounded, when some overly optimistic soul creates polished album covers of same, further perpetuating the myth that somebody has the score and just isn't letting it out. (Except of course, the master's owners, who are not under any obligation to to publish them.)

So to sum up. This list is air. Detailed, authoritative, accurate, air.
JonC

Actually he got it from the sheet music.

thegrizz70x7
07-24-2011, 06:07 AM
I too would Love to hear the complete score, truly a monumental work from Newton Howard, one of his best!

Cornelius&Zira
08-06-2011, 04:16 PM
I'm ready to KILL for this one!

Me too!!!!... lol.

tatertotalot
08-08-2011, 12:11 AM
Been looking for this for a long time!

TheFame1
08-13-2011, 06:18 AM
If you look at the list though, there are still quite a few things missing but damn that's a great track list lol

manowweik1995
08-20-2011, 07:36 PM
If someone needs . . . That tracklist:
King Kong Complete Score SFX
01. Opening
02. Annie
03. Carl's Idea
04. Actress Search
05. Annie's Theme
06. Annie agrees
07. The Ship sails
08. Jimmy
09. Darrow and Driscoll
10. The first day of shooting
11. Stories of the Island
12. The skull on the map
13. Collapse
14. Landing
15. Abduction
16. Victim of cannibal
17. King Kong takes Ann
18. Beast in the Jungle
19. King Kong's lair
20. Dinosaurs
21. Stunts
22. Danger under water
23. Above the Abyss
24. King Kong vs. Dinosaur
25. In the Gorge
26. It's beautiful!
27. Jack in the den
28. The imaginary victory
29. Return
30. Representation
31. King Kong at large
32. Central Park (film version)
33. Skyscraper
34. Beauty Killed The Beast
35. End Credits
36. Central Park (End Credits version)
Complete Motion Picture Score's of my youtube channel manowweik1995

DAKoftheOTA
08-20-2011, 08:43 PM
That's not a complete score if there's SFX. Sorry to inform you, but the complete score is 3-Discs and 104 tracks

Amanda
08-20-2011, 08:53 PM
Dak, see my pm regarding this.

DAKoftheOTA
08-20-2011, 11:16 PM
It's plastered on the HZ board and the cues are on ASCAP, people know it's real. Cheesy said he's seen it. I too have seen rare things in my young life but will we ever get the goods? Probably not. Only time will tell though if this ever leaks...

manowweik1995
08-21-2011, 10:50 AM
That's not a complete score if there's SFX. Sorry to inform you, but the complete score is 3-Discs and 104 tracks
It is Recording Session. And I have Complete Score. All the tracks, only generalized.

desmus55
08-21-2011, 10:52 AM
Mind sharing such an exquisite score?

Amanda
08-21-2011, 10:56 AM
Only generalized meaning what, exactly? Recording sessions, and complete scores, would contain NO sound effects. If there are fx, it is a rip. Plain and simple.

Consider though. Kong is a fairly long film, fairly filled with score. Avatar took 5 discs, right? (well, three). So you have to figure, any Kong recording sessions would fill up at least three discs, right? I mean use common sense. It isn't gonna be 30 odd tracks....

And, that's all can think to say. Any expanded version of most films will be on the longer side..?

desmus55
08-21-2011, 10:59 AM
Don't they usually contain unused and alternate cues? So that's got to be at least 4 discs there! D:

cheeseparty67
08-21-2011, 05:04 PM
It's 3CDs and 235 minutes.

Source: I don't have it, I just know a guy who does. But he's not sharing, so don't ask.

DAKoftheOTA
08-21-2011, 05:23 PM
It's 3CDs and 235 minutes.

Source: I don't have it, I just know a guy who does. But he's not sharing, so don't ask.

What Cheesy said. I don't have it ether, doesn't mean I haven't seen it. The person I know won't share it either, and that's just the way it is. It will involve legal issues.

DingDongSenior
04-14-2012, 01:02 AM
If anyone wants the link to this recording session, here it is:

Free download KingKong.rar (http://asfile.com/file/63YcP7V)

Source: King Kong Soundtrack (Complete by James Newton Howard) | Download Soundtracks (http://download-soundtracks.com/movie_soundtracks/king-kong-soundtrack-complete-by-james-newton-howard/)

jedisaurus
05-05-2012, 10:27 PM
Here's the End Credits recorded from the DVD. Haven't seen it up yet, so...

https://rapidshare.com/files/3756196548/KK_Finale_Raw.wav