Silent Ed
03-16-2011, 07:02 PM
DERP-10015 | Octave Theory - VGMdb (http://vgmdb.net/album/22775)

Teh debut album of Nobuo Uematsu's new rock band. Released today. Share nao! For great justice!!

finalfantim
03-16-2011, 10:49 PM
DERP-10015 | Octave Theory - VGMdb (http://vgmdb.net/album/22775)

Teh debut album of Nobuo Uematsu's new rock band. Released today. Share nao! For great justice!!

Its released alright, the only problem could be the shipment in Tokio due the catastrophe that stroke japan

Silent Ed
03-20-2011, 09:11 AM
Aw, crap! This earthquake-tsunami-nucular explosion business really suxx.

Silent Ed
03-22-2011, 11:48 AM
Fellow pirates, I'm disappointed.

Silent Ed
03-24-2011, 01:19 PM
WTF d00dz?? y no 1 shares?? upload NAO!!1

MiL�
03-24-2011, 01:39 PM
Silent Ed. Are you 12?

Silent Ed
03-24-2011, 01:56 PM
no

finalfantim
03-24-2011, 02:08 PM
Maybe its the radiation that keeps people from importing...

Why wont they release it on itunes/amazon.com so everyone can buy instead of having to import it from japan which is difficult nowadays.

skuallx
03-24-2011, 06:59 PM
no one get it yet? i've been looking on the web but nothing

Silent Ed
03-24-2011, 07:47 PM
some poeple actully got it but they are assholes and don't share

MiL�
03-24-2011, 07:53 PM
Are they assholes because they got it? or because they don't share it? or because they are people?

skuallx
03-24-2011, 08:17 PM
obiusly because they don't share it... :S keep looking

Silent Ed
03-24-2011, 08:38 PM
obiusly indeed

MiL�
03-24-2011, 08:43 PM
Oh, Thank you for explanation. Now it's obvious who and why the assholes are...

Silent Ed
03-25-2011, 07:22 PM
DUCK THIS!1

TerithianWanderer
03-26-2011, 03:30 AM
Why? Did you throw something?

MiL�
03-26-2011, 10:55 AM
Hm, monkey's poop probably.

Silent Ed
03-26-2011, 05:11 PM
in ur face!

MiL�
03-26-2011, 06:46 PM
You crack me up kid.

Slushatel
03-26-2011, 07:02 PM
Aw, crap! This earthquake-tsunami-nucular explosion business really suxx.
Sheesh, thats a smart thing to say, considering what happened. Idiot.

music-addict
03-26-2011, 07:41 PM
FFS, stop bumping this thread with crappy posts unless the album has leaked.

Silent Ed
03-27-2011, 09:24 AM
STFU n00b!!

skuallx
03-27-2011, 06:58 PM
take a look on:
EARTHBOUND PAPAS Octave Theory Leak! FilesTube & Mediafire download | Torrent album leak (http://www.torrentdiamond.com/earthbound-papas-octave-theory-leak-filestube-mediafire-download/)

it seem they have the album, but need to complete a form to get the torrent.
torrent name: EARTHBOUND.PAPAS.Octave.Theory.torrent

MDickie
03-28-2011, 08:32 AM
The link doesn't work.

skuallx
03-28-2011, 02:52 PM
probably is fake..

finaltom
03-28-2011, 08:55 PM
take a look on:
EARTHBOUND PAPAS Octave Theory Leak! FilesTube & Mediafire download | Torrent album leak (http://www.torrentdiamond.com/earthbound-papas-octave-theory-leak-filestube-mediafire-download/)

it seem they have the album, but need to complete a form to get the torrent.
torrent name: EARTHBOUND.PAPAS.Octave.Theory.torrent

Is this a fake, i filled out one of the forms and it still didnt give me the link

skuallx
03-28-2011, 09:12 PM
Is this a fake, i filled out one of the forms and it still didnt give me the link

ok im sorry... i hope someone get the album soon and share

MDickie
03-29-2011, 05:08 PM
OK, the link is back. Can't complete their surveys...



۲ �۲ �artist : EARTHBOUND PAPAS �۲ ۲

۲ �۲ �.title : Octave Theory �۲ ۲

۲ �۲ �.label : UNKNOWN �۲ ۲

۲ �۲ ..cat.num : BRKN 009 �۲ ۲

۲ �۲ �.genre : progressive.rock, progressive.metal, game, nobuo.uematsu �۲ ۲

۲ �۲ �..year : 2011 �۲ ۲

۲ �۲ .playtime : 118:53 min �۲ ۲

۲ �۲ ��url : �۲ ۲

۲ �۲ �۲ ۲

۲ �۲ .rls.date : 2011-3-23 �۲ ۲

۲ �۲ �source : WEB �۲ ۲

۲ �۲ ..quality : 320kbps / Joint-Stereo �۲ ۲

۲ �۲ �tracks : 12 �۲ ۲

۲ �۲ �..size : 135 MB �۲ ۲

Definitely fake.

skuallx
04-02-2011, 05:36 PM
no one have the album? i cant believe it :S
if anyone have it, please share... i cant find it on entire web :S too sad

MiL�
04-02-2011, 11:04 PM
I have it. Will upload it in the next few days, please be patient.

skuallx
04-03-2011, 01:22 AM
I have it. Will upload it in the next few days, please be patient.

:) :) :) :) im so happy to read your comment!!!! i will check every day. thanks Milo.. ! xD

sefiroslionheart
04-03-2011, 03:53 AM
I heard it but they've ruined liberi fatali. And one winged angel isnt much different.
I know theres the others but dunno what uematsu's doing but i guess when ur a musical genius not all of ur work can be perfection, especially if u try to alter whats already perfect. Not much u can change to liberi except more volume, more vocalists, more hype :P
I did manage to catch the distant worlds 2 thing though, that was much more closer to his style and far better than octave. Dunno, maybe he should've stuck with black mages. Even the band name sounded better :S

metalzebus
04-05-2011, 06:39 AM
I think that Liberi Fatali sounds great to me on the videogame FF VIII and on the octave theory's album. If you heard well (on high quality speakers), you will notice that the instruments have been selected to the composition skill's perfection. At last, he left the black mages, he was forced to play on that pathetic's ENIX band (only the black mages I and II). Then, Nobuo Ueamtsu said on his mind: I will take the band on the direction that i want for my compositions and then i will left the band. And he did that with the black mages III darkness and starlight, he was taking the band to Dog Ear Records (his own company). HAHAHAHA, TAKE THAT ENIX!!!!! You will have the copyright of many Nobuo Uematsu's work, but you will never be the creator of the fantastic music from Final Fantasy (from FF I to X, from FF XIV and a little part from FF XI and XII).

At last, the One Winged Angel for the FF ADVENT CHILDREN lefted that crappy movie. Now i feel the real power of the Nobuo Uematsu's arrengements on this One Winged Angel for the octave theory's album. That super choral arrengement sounds great to me on this octave theory's album. The Black Mages from ENIX sucks!!!!! Only Nobuo Uemastu tried to wash the dirt from ENIX on The Black Mages I and II (and a little bit on the Black Mages III).

On few words, with Earthbound papas you are more close to Nobuo Uematsu.

If you want real Final Fantasys, we must have to Hironobu Sakaguchi, Nobuo Uematsu and everyone that support them on the team (the old times of Squaresoft).

Barret from Final Fantasy VII (from the old times, Squaresoft): "I hate ENIX and Shinra more than ever!!!!!!!!!!!

Long life to Nobuo Uematsu, Hironobu Sakaguchi and all that support them.

finalfantim
04-05-2011, 10:32 AM
I heard it but they've ruined liberi fatali. And one winged angel isnt much different.
I know theres the others but dunno what uematsu's doing but i guess when ur a musical genius not all of ur work can be perfection, especially if u try to alter whats already perfect. Not much u can change to liberi except more volume, more vocalists, more hype :P
I did manage to catch the distant worlds 2 thing though, that was much more closer to his style and far better than octave. Dunno, maybe he should've stuck with black mages. Even the band name sounded better :S

I think N. Uematsu wants to be seperated from the FINAL FANTASY franchise little by little which is logical considering his SQUARE ENIX and FINAL FANTASY days are over. (except for a few themes) I dont mind since SQUARE ENIX and FINAL FANTASY are getting worse every year. I still have hope for Versus XIII with beautiful composition made by Yoko Shimomura (KH series)

I think Liberi Fatali isnt ruined, its a whole different style which is refreshing after almost 11 years of the same (dont get me wrong, awesome) orchestration.

music-addict
04-06-2011, 10:17 AM
I have it. Will upload it in the next few days, please be patient.


Can't wait! Thank you very much!

Silent Ed
04-06-2011, 11:47 AM
I have it. Will upload it in the next few days, please be patient.
^ cool dood.


I heard it but bla bla bla
bla bla bla
bla bla bla
^ assholes.

nosh
04-06-2011, 02:00 PM
I don't think you have it .... You take to much time to upload it and I really don't know where you can download it from ... I search on newsgroup, torrent and direct download and I found nothing but fakes.

Don't joke with us !

finalfantim
04-06-2011, 05:48 PM
I don't think you have it .... You take to much time to upload it and I really don't know where you can download it from ... I search on newsgroup, torrent and direct download and I found nothing but fakes.

Don't joke with us !

You realize he is a trusted poster around here. He could be not at home or delivery address of the cd at the moment, im just thinking of a reason but there are tons of other possible reasons why this isn't a priority for him.

@Silent Ed
Not quoting 'relevant' posts and just spamming $$$holes isn't giving you much respect

Plankton614
04-06-2011, 06:00 PM
I have it. Will upload it in the next few days, please be patient.

Apparently some people missed the last part of your post. :/ Thanks in advance, though--I appreciate it! :D

nosh
04-06-2011, 06:15 PM
I'm an asshole, don't be pissed off guys ^^
Yeah, he must had received the CD, you're right ! This is the only way !
I'm waiting soooo looong for this new Uematsu album... so, I just can't wait anymore ><
Sorry for my previous post... I don't want to be disapointed like before.

Hope you can rip it the most quickly you can !
I will help to keep it online ;)

Thanks for your good job !

Silent Ed
04-06-2011, 07:23 PM
@Silent Ed
Not quoting 'relevant' posts and just spamming $$$holes isn't giving you much respect

WTF n00b, I'm not spamming $$$holes, just emphasizing a fact from a previous post:
some poeple actully got it but they are @$$holes and don't shareYuo know who I'm talking about, eh??

nsrsm
04-06-2011, 07:26 PM
Enough bickering. Just be patient.

Looking forward to hearing the redone tracks as well as hearing the original compositions.

MiL�
04-07-2011, 12:43 AM
Alright, sorry to keep everyone waiting, but the Octave Theory CD is not where I am at the moment, it's at the previous house.
Just like everyone else I have a life and dead lines to meet at work and school.
And right now simply can not afford (time-wise) to drive 4 hours each way to the old house
just to pick up a couple hobby-related packages.

I said I'll do it, so I will. Hopefully by the end of this week.

Thank you for patience and understanding.

Silent Ed
04-07-2011, 03:29 PM
Alright, sorry to keep everyone waiting, but the Octave Theory CD is not where I am at the moment, it's at the previous house.
Just like everyone else I have a life and dead lines to meet at work and school.
And right now simply can not afford (time-wise) to drive 4 hours each way to the old house
just to pick up a couple hobby-related packages.

I said I'll do it, so I will. Hopefully by the end of this week.

Thank you for patience and understanding.

nice trolling, dood. nice trolling.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu90/vanessa68_2009/Macros%20and%20gifs/clapping-obama-149_bigger.gif

MiL�
04-07-2011, 03:44 PM
nice trolling, dood. nice trolling.

Thank you, thank you. When I'll upload it, I wish there was a way to block you from downloading it.

finalfantim
04-07-2011, 05:04 PM
Thank you, thank you. When I'll upload it, I wish there was a way to block you from downloading it.

Just ignore him. He can't even spell 'dude' properly and he isn't familiar with your previous submissions so it's not worth the time. When he gets blocked due to multiple assaults and lack of respect towards other forum members, then your problem is solved ;)

Plankton614
04-08-2011, 02:59 AM
Justice has been served, or so it seems. :) Thanks again, Milo; it's been super-busy for me, too, and I appreciate your hard work and generosity!

MiL�
04-08-2011, 03:22 AM
This actually really hurts to see you guys crave for the soundtrack so bad, and yet I can't get to my CD until later on this weekend.

Well, I can share this for now: all 9 tracks in mp3 @ 320 kbps, from a highly classified friend.

Later will be posting a personal rip in lossless FLAC + cue + log.

EDIT: Thank you finalfantim for being the 1st one to stick out and show the signs of humanity and common sense.

Cheers!

Octave Theory [mp3].rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?lbmtk41wr2bddss)

skuallx
04-08-2011, 06:58 AM
thanks for your contribution Milo
some people can not buy the CD for several reasons, besides the disaster in Japan, so we seek at this forum, and sometimes leads to desperation to get it.
however it is not sufficient reason to insult or treat someone as a liar.

thanks again for the cd. I really been waiting for it!
saludos para todos!

AkireXael
04-08-2011, 07:40 AM
I guess everybody proved that we are not worthy, cause we did not passed your patience test jaja thank you so much pal.

finalfantim
04-08-2011, 08:26 AM
This actually really hurts to see you guys crave for the soundtrack so bad, and yet I can't get to my CD until later on this weekend.

Well, I can share this for now: all 9 tracks in mp3 @ 320 kbps, from a highly classified friend.

Later will be posting a personal rip in lossless FLAC + cue + log.

EDIT: Thank you finalfantim for being the 1st one to stick out and show the signs of humanity and common sense.

Cheers!

Octave Theory [mp3].rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?lbmtk41wr2bddss)

Thanks!

Well you don't have to thank me for my common sense, its something everyone should have...sadly not everyone has it apparently :P
I've been around this forum for a long time and there are always ppl who wants stuff instantly, its insane. Rippers are human and also have a life :D

MDickie
04-08-2011, 08:50 AM
This actually really hurts to see you guys crave for the soundtrack so bad, and yet I can't get to my CD until later on this weekend.

Well, I can share this for now: all 9 tracks in mp3 @ 320 kbps, from a highly classified friend.

Later will be posting a personal rip in lossless FLAC + cue + log.

EDIT: Thank you finalfantim for being the 1st one to stick out and show the signs of humanity and common sense.

Cheers!

Octave Theory [mp3].rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?lbmtk41wr2bddss)

Thanks, man. We really appreciate this. And great timing, too! Just after this annoying Silent Ed kid got himself banned. :)

music-addict
04-08-2011, 10:38 AM
This actually really hurts to see you guys crave for the soundtrack so bad, and yet I can't get to my CD until later on this weekend.

Well, I can share this for now: all 9 tracks in mp3 @ 320 kbps, from a highly classified friend.

Later will be posting a personal rip in lossless FLAC + cue + log.


Cheers!

Octave Theory [mp3].rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?lbmtk41wr2bddss)


You're amazing! do you know that? Thank you so much!!

Yun16
04-08-2011, 12:17 PM
thank you very much Milo! ^^
Much appreciated

Tumas-Muscat
04-08-2011, 12:21 PM
This actually really hurts to see you guys crave for the soundtrack so bad, and yet I can't get to my CD until later on this weekend.

Well, I can share this for now: all 9 tracks in mp3 @ 320 kbps, from a highly classified friend.

Later will be posting a personal rip in lossless FLAC + cue + log.

EDIT: Thank you finalfantim for being the 1st one to stick out and show the signs of humanity and common sense.

Cheers!

Octave Theory [mp3].rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?lbmtk41wr2bddss)

Thanks so much! Very, very much appreciated! :D

Gestriden
04-08-2011, 01:27 PM
Omg this album is...ugh...

The introduction was pretty cool, the voice sounded so off and weird, but then it becomes a bit of a meh song I've heard better intros but this isn't a bad intro song. In fact that voice needs to vanish it's not even the fact it's in a language I don' understand it's the fact it's so badly mixed in that you just hear it as a mumble in japanese. Best part is though the song is best arrangement but also original as it's based off of excerpts from Marche Slave Op.31 by P.Tchaikovsky.

Liberi Fatali isn't even an arrangement really it sounds more of a cover but with Nobuo's new love with that TERRIBLE lead synth being the "trumpets" is just really destroying the mood for me. It doesn't even end there the entire song what drives me the most is how there's almost no energy in the song what-so-ever. No real dynamics at all I do composition and this is seriously bothering me.

Advent OWA also needs to just stop and should be removed from the OST it had a bit of nice experimentation near the opening but then it just becomes...once again a terrible synth leaded trumpet song. The choir is understandable as that's a budget thing. However this isn't even a unique or a different attempt at the song. It's the exact same song just less budget added to it. Why? Just...any thing would have been better then that.

Thread of Fate from Guin was pretty nice, one of the songs I actually enjoyed and yet I've never even heard of the original version before. This just has a much more balance to it and has become my fav arrangement of the entire album.

Metal Hypnotized was also a very very cool son the only original song I really enjoyed...or could have if it was't for that TERRIBLE LEAD SYNTH Omg Nobuo get that out of here really it's not edgey or videogamey it becomes annoying. The other synths used are alright it's that main synth though. All in all though VERY solid song.

Eternity - Oh boy..just when I thought I could get rid of this song, for one what gave Eternity the bit of allowance over it's silliness was the fact Ian Gillan was voicing over it. Now we have some guy who sings it in Japanese. Hearing it in japanese has taught me that the song just isn't as cool was it not for Ian Gillan and understanding those cheesy lyrics. The song also has that monotone that liberi Fatali has. It doesn't sound as energetic...just sounds as a cover.

The Forest of Thousand Years - Sounds pretty...alright good lounge type music for chillin too really. One thing that bothers me about this song which actually pisses me off is that there's a cello (or viola?) in there. Nobuo are you saying you had a string player the entire time and refused to utilize her/him for most of this album? It could have been such a saving grace and added a bit more uniqueness to these songs. Forget about Guin this is definitely my favorite song on the album. In fact probably the only song that I 100% recommend to listen to all the way.

Bo-Kon-Ho-Ko - So Roar of the Departed Soul downgraded? That's pretty much what this is,a cover without the budget, worst then OWA actually because there's no sign of experimentation at all. There's about a 7 second extra bridge before the "japanese ranting" area and well it sounds...terrible for a bridge. The japanese ranting here sounds SO MUCH better then the ingame version and I'd love them both to switch around. Only the voice, outside of that this is just a low budget cover the outro is very lazy as it's just the intro.

Homecoming: What? Is this his attempt at being...different? 2:05 is the only cool part of the song the intro sounds so uninspired.

I'm sorry if this was a game album then I might have passed the abum off in a slight more positive note however this is an album meant for listening to and well, Nobuo managed to tarnish a lot of his own old songs. He has a very good song on here but really this album is not that good at all. The uninspired covers of songs (besides Guin) the album just crashes I'd rather re-create the album and call it Octave Theory: Greatest Hits and More! And replace Eternity, AOWA, and Bo-Kon-Ho-Ko with their respected better verions, give Liberti Fatali funds so Square can get Nobuo to try AGAIN with the BMs and then get rid of the voice in the introduction.

In the end my entire review can be summbed up by the label number "DERP-10015"

music-addict
04-08-2011, 01:52 PM
@Gestriden

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the album. I, too, agree with most of your criticisms.
I'm very, very, VERY disappointed. The only song I actually liked is Liberi Fatali. It could've been way better than it is, though. Oh well.


Once again, thank you MiL� for sharing the album here. :-)

finalfantim
04-08-2011, 04:21 PM
@Gestriden

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the album. I, too, agree with most of your criticisms.
I'm very, very, VERY disappointed. The only song I actually liked is Liberi Fatali. It could've been way better than it is, though. Oh well.


Same thought, a little love/hate on this one.
The sound is like merging Epica with Nightwish

Silent_Ed is suspiciously silent now :D

metalzebus
04-08-2011, 05:42 PM
An awesome album for my life. When we talk of art (music on this case), there's no better and worst. Let the criticisms for something purely mathematic and competitive like for example: "football". The only two things that you can complain on the arts is: "Aggressive-Marketing and Technical things". Do you know what texture, tone, colour, harmonics, movement, articulations, dynamics, question and answer, percussion, etc on music means?

I am a musical composer and I have technical things for me to say: The texture, tone, colour, harmonics, movement, articulations, dynamics, question and answer, percussion is awesome!!!!!!! Nobuo Uematsu is a genius. He switch the way of thinking music from the beginning until the end of the album. When he is not thinking on harmonics functions he is thinking on texture or timber, or colour, etc!!!!!!!!! Then he make a lot of combinations with this composition's skills.
But, like all the masters works, you may like it or maybe not. You must use your body, mind and spirit for question and answer to yourself: "Do I like this album?" The answer is: "_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _" (answer it to yourself and then share it).

"AGGRESSIVE-MARKETING": Final Fantasy VII ADVENT CHILDREN (CLOUD WITH SCHWARZENEGGER'S GLASSES, HE AND HIS FRIENDS IN THE MATRIX'S WORLD, ETC) (except the compositions of Nobuo Uematsu), DIRGE OF CERBERUS, FF XI (except the 11 compositions of Nobuo Uematsu), XII (except 2 compositions of Nobuo Uematsu), XIII AND XIV (except all the entire music composed by Nobuo Uematsu), AND ALL THE DIRT FROM ENIX (AGGRESSIVE MARKETING).


Long life to Hironobu Sakaguchi, Nobuo Uematsu and everyone that support them.

Thank you very much MiL� for sharing this master work from 2011.

Gestriden
04-08-2011, 08:33 PM
If you wanna go with the actual dynamics, texture ect then Nobuo has no credit for that at all. Tsutomu Narita, Michio Okamiya, Yoshitaka Hirota, and Satoshi Henmi do as they are the ones who arranged all of his songs for this album, even the original compositions he handed to them to convert it, transcribe and add their own stuff to it.

finalfantim
04-08-2011, 11:20 PM
An awesome album for my life. When we talk of art (music on this case), there's no better and worst. Let the criticisms for something purely mathematic and competitive like for example: "football". The only two things that you can complain on the arts is: "Aggressive-Marketing and Technical things". Do you know what texture, tone, colour, harmonics, movement, articulations, dynamics, question and answer, percussion, etc on music means?

I am a musical composer and I have technical things for me to say: The texture, tone, colour, harmonics, movement, articulations, dynamics, question and answer, percussion is awesome!!!!!!! Nobuo Uematsu is a genius. He switch the way of thinking music from the beginning until the end of the album. When he is not thinking on harmonics functions he is thinking on texture or timber, or colour, etc!!!!!!!!! Then he make a lot of combinations with this composition's skills.
But, like all the masters works, you may like it or maybe not. You must use your body, mind and spirit for question and answer to yourself: "Do I like this album?" The answer is: "_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _" (answer it to yourself and then share it).

"AGGRESSIVE-MARKETING": Final Fantasy VII ADVENT CHILDREN (CLOUD WITH SCHWARZENEGGER'S GLASSES, HE AND HIS FRIENDS IN THE MATRIX'S WORLD, ETC) (except the compositions of Nobuo Uematsu), DIRGE OF CERBERUS, FF XI (except the 11 compositions of Nobuo Uematsu), XII (except 2 compositions of Nobuo Uematsu), XIII AND XIV (except all the entire music composed by Nobuo Uematsu), AND ALL THE DIRT FROM ENIX (AGGRESSIVE MARKETING).


Long life to Hironobu Sakaguchi, Nobuo Uematsu and everyone that support them.

Thank you very much MiL� for sharing this master work from 2011.


I know Nobuo Uematsu has a lot of talent when it comes to composition etc, there's no argue in that. But the 'music' aka the track you actually listen to instead of a paper with notes, is what it makes the art. As Gestriden said, Nobuo alone isnt making the art, he's is the heart of the music but not to be credited alone for the final piece of art which is again, the track you listen.

This album is an art-form which you may or may not like. But when you talk in technical music terms, its not that great. Composition? sure its great, but its not the only thing to call it art imo. Liberi Fatali great composition but lacks somewhat dynamic. You hear the rythm guitar and drum almost the whole track and the volume is almost static. In theory the music sheet could be the same as the orchestra version (ofcourse there are more instruments thus layers). So i dont think its fair to call it art when the orchestra version has more depth, emotion, layers, dynamics etc when compared to octave theory version. OWA has more dynamics though, i actually like this one. Its sort of a Rock only version to make the collection complete. OWA (Orchestra, Rock/Orchestra and Rock)

Im not saying i dont like it, its just not what i call 'art' per definition. Then again, refreshing Liberi Fatali into a whole different genre/style is an art...hmm my mind is somewhat confused right now

Like comparing Lady GaGa with Mozart...its not fair to Mozart ;)

Danzo
04-08-2011, 11:21 PM
Thanks very much, MiL�, for providing this album.

metalzebus
04-09-2011, 01:45 AM
Very interesting info: "If you wanna go with the actual dynamics, texture ect then Nobuo has no credit for that at all. Tsutomu Narita, Michio Okamiya, Yoshitaka Hirota, and Satoshi Henmi do as they are the ones who arranged all of his songs for this album, even the original compositions he handed to them to convert it, transcribe and add their own stuff to it".

Thanks my friend for the info. Nobuo Uematsu is a Genius mixing his works with Tsutomu Narita, Michio Okamiya, Yoshitaka Hirota, and Satoshi Henmi.

Lowing the composition's skills on some parts is also a composition's skills (said by Nobuo Uematsu). The intro on Liberi Fatali has a original Harmony that keeps me on suspense. You must to understand that the intention was to use syntetiser (Like FF videogame). The Syntetiser and the electric instruments have a poor dynamics. That is why you hear less dynamics than the orchestrated version. However, the master Nobuo Uematsu made a impossible task. He made a excellent work with electric instruments and his band.

Nobuo Uematsu hired Shiro Hamaguchi to orchestrate Liberi Fatali for Final Fantasy VIII on 1999.

You are comparing Lady Gaga with Mozart. That is art (Mozart) vs marketing (Lady Gaga).

I am not comparing anything. But i will say something: Nobuo Uematsu is from Left Policy and Mozart is from right Policy.

You don't understand what art means. A baby could make art if he want. Art is not technical things. Is a way of expressing something with sound (art is more complex than this). When we combine art with technical things of the art, we have things like Nobuo Uematsu. But...... Nobuo Uematsu is very far away from our comprention. He is a great composer.

You said: "So i don't think its fair to call it art when the orchestra version has more depth, emotion, layers, dynamics etc when compared to octave theory version".

I say: "Yes, is very fair to call it art when Nobuo Uematsu wanted to add originality on this album putting and letting a band (earthbound papas) to express themselves with his works".

Nobuo Uematsu, thank you for impulsing my musical composition spirit to the max.

Long life to Hironobu Sakaguchi, Nobuo Uematsu and everyone that support them.

metalzebus
04-09-2011, 04:47 AM
Did you try to say that Liberi Fatali from earthbound papas would be Lady Gaga and the original Liberi Fatali would be Mozart? pufff

Did you know that Liberi Fatali from earthbound papas have less dynamics, electric instruments and nothing more than that? He and his band had changed the texture.

Does anyone here has analyzed the harmonics functions from Liberi Fatali (from the original and from the earthbound papas version)? Do you know what first, fifth, first on music means? Do you know how to make a mixture? Do you know what is melodic counterpoint and rhythmic counterpoint? Do you know...? etc.

HEY YOU!!!!!!!

DON'T COMPARE THE PURE MARKETING SHIT LADY GAGA WITH A GREAT ARTIST LIKE NOBUO UEMATSU.

finalfantim
04-09-2011, 10:59 AM
Did you try to say that Liberi Fatali from earthbound papas would be Lady Gaga and the original Liberi Fatali would be Mozart? pufff

Did you know that Liberi Fatali from earthbound papas have less dynamics, electric instruments and nothing more than that? He and his band had changed the texture.

Does anyone here has analyzed the harmonics functions from Liberi Fatali (from the original and from the earthbound papas version)? Do you know what first, fifth, first on music means? Do you know how to make a mixture? Do you know what is melodic counterpoint and rhythmic counterpoint? Do you know...? etc.

HEY YOU!!!!!!!

DON'T COMPARE THE PURE MARKETING SHIT LADY GAGA WITH A GREAT ARTIST LIKE NOBUO UEMATSU.


HAHA NOOOOO! :P I wouldn't dare

It was more of a general point regarding art, that not everything is art but as you stated it beautifully: 'That is art (Mozart) vs marketing (Lady Gaga)'. As some believe Lady GaGa isnt from the marketing machine but an artist

Anyway, im happy to hear they improved the guitar recording/mastering compared to black mages iii. The synths are not overpowering the dull guitars like most of the tracks on black mages iii

TheGazelMinistry
04-09-2011, 07:02 PM
Thanks, man. We really appreciate this. And great timing, too! Just after this annoying Silent Ed kid got himself banned. :)

He was banned? That's so great to hear.

Anyway, if this has been uploaded to Youtube, I might listen to this album there first. It didn't pique my interest to begin with, and after reading some of the above comments, I am even less interested.

finalfantim
04-09-2011, 08:50 PM
He was banned? That's so great to hear.

Anyway, if this has been uploaded to Youtube, I might listen to this album there first. It didn't pique my interest to begin with, and after reading some of the above comments, I am even less interested.

I reported him a couple of times ;) Not only for this thread, because after a quick research i discovered he posted more bad stuff.

tansunn
04-11-2011, 07:00 AM
Thanks for the upload, MiL�. As a Black Mages fan I was thinking about getting this album, but having had the chance to listen to it I can definitely say I'm glad I waited. I like some of the tracks, but not enough to warrant the full import purchase price. Some of the technical aspects are kind of disappointing as well, like muddy sounding guitars and electronic drums.

nosh
04-11-2011, 01:47 PM
First, thousands thanks to MiL�&Gestriden for providing this rip. Thank you to take on your time for that.

Second : really sorry to threat you as a liar, I believe it was an another bullshit post like before (Silent Ed...) It pissed me off that thread turn like this. My apologies ...

Third : I'm almost agreed with your review, Gestriden. Some tracks are really cool but I waited better than that from Uematsu. A little disapointed.

MiL�
04-14-2011, 12:34 AM
Thread 88589

tebian
04-21-2011, 01:17 PM
This actually really hurts to see you guys crave for the soundtrack so bad, and yet I can't get to my CD until later on this weekend.

Well, I can share this for now: all 9 tracks in mp3 @ 320 kbps, from a highly classified friend.

Later will be posting a personal rip in lossless FLAC + cue + log.

EDIT: Thank you finalfantim for being the 1st one to stick out and show the signs of humanity and common sense.

Cheers!

Octave Theory [mp3].rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?lbmtk41wr2bddss)

Thanks milo !

CarbunclesRuby
04-21-2011, 06:46 PM
Does the mix of this record bug the crap out of anyone else, and the recording? There were so many times when I was thinking 'Wtf the guitar is clearly playing the lead but the synth is louder what's going on here?', or vice versa. And the guitar tone on some of the tracks is just bad. It sounds so boxed in, like it was recorded with a dirt mic, dirt amp, and dirt pre, by someone who doesn't know how to record guitars, in a bad sounding room. Some of the synth choices make me go 'Really? I get it, I mean, music's supposed to be fun, but some of this just sounds bad and out of place'. I've only listened to this record on reference monitors, so I've yet to hear it in my car, on headphones, or commercial speakers, but so far, it's really bottom heavy. There's a lot of mud in the low end. Drums sound nice, though.

I really wish the people behind this project had gotten Kenichiro Fukui to record and mix this record. He rocked the shit out of the first two albums by The Black Mages, the guy's clearly talented in a big bad way. If I were recording an instrumental prog metal record with a decent budget, he'd be the first cat I approach about mixing it.

Despite all this, I don't think it's bad, but I think The Black Mages have set the bar way too high for instrumental prog metal arranges of game music.

tansunn
04-21-2011, 07:48 PM
I agree with pretty much everything you've said, CarbunclesRuby. The only part I disagree on is the drums. Maybe you're referring to how they're mixed in the track, in which case I'd agree, but they don't even sound real. They sound like they were played on electronic drum pads, which they probably were if the announcement video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1KgI7myUY) is any indication. Quite disappointing, considering it's the same drummer from The Black Mages and he played acoustic drums for them after he joined.

Considering Kenichiro Fukui and Tsuyoshi Sekito were the two who conceptualized The Black Mages, and they have no involvement with Earthbound Papas, I think their absence is one of the biggest downsides of the new band. If they decide to form a new band together, I would definitely check it out.

tebian
04-21-2011, 08:02 PM
Since we are commenting and I do listen to a lot of Nobuo's work as DJ I have to say this CD is perplexing. If it has a theme I am do not see it. I am going out on a limb with hopes he does not read this thread but this is single worse "CD" of music from the soundtracks that it was made from. Shows nothing of the style of the music from the games nor really even the talent of the guys playing music. Love you Nobuo but your getting weird in your middle age.

metalzebus
05-03-2011, 04:40 AM
TEBIAN, YOU DON�T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WORD MUSIC MEANS. MUSIC IS ART. YOU SAID THE "WORST CD" AND ON THE ARTS, THERE ISN�T WORST AND BEST. THERE IS: "I LIKE IT" OR "I DON�T LIKE IT". YOU SAID "WORST CD" WHILE I AM SAING I LIKE THIS CD SO MUCH!!!!!. ALL THE WORLD CAN�T BE LIKING FROM THE SAME THING. THE ONLY THINGS THAT ALL THE WORLD CAN EXPECT THE SAME RESULTS ARE: SPORTS, METHEMATICS, SCIENCE, ETC. BUT ON THE ARTS, NOOO. I FEEL THE MUSIC (FOR EXAMPLE) TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN YOU. I AM A MUSICAL COMPOSER. AND ON TECHNICAL TERMS, NOBUO UEMATSU IS ONE OF THE BEST COMPOSERS OF THIS TIMES. THAT�S NOT MEANS THAT YOU MUST LIKE IT.

AND NOBUO UEMATSU IS THAT KIND OF COMPOSERS THAT SAYS: ENOUGH OF HARMONY NOW!!!!!! I WILL DO TEXTURE FOR A WHILE!!!!!!!!. IS A GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE CLASICAL COMPOSERS FOCUS ALL THEIR ENERGY ON THE HARMONY. AND THAT, TO ME, IS VERY REPETITIVE. I LIKE CLASICAL MUSIC (LIKE NOBUO UEMATSU). BUT I LIKE MUCH MORE THE WAY THAT NOBUO UEMATSU TAKES THE ELEMENTS FROM THE CLASICAL MUSIC.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS RECITATIVE ON MUSIC? IS WHEN YOU SING ALMOST TALKING OVER A MUSICAL PIECE. AND THAT IS USED ON CLASICAL MUSIC (ARIAS RECITATIVES). I LIKE VERY MUCH THE RECITATIVE HYPER RITHMYC ON BO-KON-HO-KO.

NOBUO UEMATSU IS A MUSICAL COMPOSER THAT COMPOSE NEW STYLES OF MUSIC, MIX KNOWED STYLES, AND WITH ALL THAT, HE USE THE MAXIMUM COMPOSITION'S SKILLS, ETC.

tebian
05-03-2011, 11:07 AM
Well I do not normally criticize how people post but your 12 year attempt at a flame is like really boring first thing in the morning. My perspective to this CD is being DJ for the Final Fantasy Radio since 2007 and I know a lot about this music. This CD is like a demo that was put out and not thought out at all about what it would be about or its theme. It is very poorly executed sound recording and the artist on there you would not even recognize cause of it, even though they have been playing for years with the man. It is the single worst "art" I have ever "seen" from Nobuo and Dog Ear records.

Yes you win the flaming cause I do not even go there with such stuff. I unsubscribed to this thread, did not know the place had such morons. You opinion might be worth a look at, but your post and you should be banned.

BTW if any of you want to see the monthly show that Dog Ear & Nobuo runs and I am sure some posters do not watch... I have archive of them here : http://www.finalfantasyradio.net/2011/04/earthbound-papas-live-tv/

tansunn
05-03-2011, 07:04 PM
@metalzebus
There is a key on your keyboard that says "Caps Lock". Before you start typing next time, look at your keyboard and push that key. If you see a light turn on, push that key again. Once you see the light turn off, you're good to go.

As for the content of your post, I have no idea what point you're making. First you say that it's art and can be interpreted differently by different people. Then it seems like you try to defend it by saying the artist is a genius.

The problem with that argument is that this isn't Uematsu's album, it's a group effort. Uematsu composed it, sure (except for an excerpt from Tchaikovsky in the first track), but the tracks were all arranged by other people.

Again, matter of opinion, but I feel the arrangements on this album are inferior to the original versions. Take Bo-kon-ho-ko. YouTube - Lost Odyssey Original Soundtrack - 218 - Bo-Kon-Ho-Ko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZGRSb5Z9U) I would much rather listen to that, with its fuller and more professional sounding choir, cleaner sounding mix, and elements that were removed from the Earthbound Papas rendition, like the taiko drums during the rap (excuse me, recitative), and the pick scraping across the guitar strings in the introduction.

Speaking of the recitative, your term "arias recitatives" seems like an oxymoron. "Aria" indicates a flowing melody, "recitative" indicates singing the words with a similar cadence as if you were speaking them.

metalzebus
05-05-2011, 03:28 PM
Again with the best and worst. Why I recive those insults?. Look. You don't understand a word of what I said. To Tebian: Why don't you talk more clearly? To tansunn: Thanks for talking on technical terms. But you are misunderstanding me. Above of my last post (not this), someone said me that this album was an arrengement from the Nobuo Uematsu's compositions maded by all the members of the band. When i said that Nobuo Uematsu is a genius is because he let to a low level band do some arrengements from his compositions. And I never said that I like the Bo-Kon-Ho-Ko version of Earthbound Papas more than the original. I just say that this album have electric instruments, don't expect more than that. I like this album. And Nobuo Uematsu is genius for letting low level's musicians make arrengments from his compositions. And I know that arias must to have harmonics cadences, because it cames from clasical music. But I was saing that the band do some recitatives without harmony (you would say rap and you are 30 % right). I just said that this tech derives from arias recitatives (but on this case, are only rhythmic recitatives). And there is too many recitatives's styles. Like for example: Talk (completely) over a song. with the difference that on rap, you have more rhythm�s movement. I don't like rap because is very repetitive. But with this arrengement I understood that this tech is great for me (only me, not for all the entire world).

I like this album and I won't be angrier if you think that this album is the worst for only you.

tebian
05-05-2011, 07:01 PM
Dang it i thought i had unsubscribed. Stop talking to me your post I dont like your tone one bit.

(tries to unsubscribe from this thread again)