Darth Revan
01-14-2011, 09:48 AM
Everyone has at least ONE Final Fantasy game they disliked for whatever reasons. So, just pick from the poll the one you disliked the most and state whatever reason you have for it. I will group the list into Classics (FFI-III) SNES (FFIV-VI), Compilation of FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX, FFX/X-2, FFXI/XIV, Ivalice Compilation, FFXIII and Other. For the Compilations, Classics, SNES and Other, please state in your post which game and why.

My choice?

Final Fantasy XIII.

I could go into detail, but I already have in the FFXIII section. I will say in simply: Too damn linear, unlikable characters, boring ass story and (imo that is) I hated the battle system. 'Nuff said.

topopoz
01-14-2011, 02:57 PM
No surprise.... FFIX

CC
01-21-2011, 02:48 AM
Final Fantasy VII, for no other reason than all the hype and asshole fanboys ruin it for me. I know, lame reason :( But the game sure as hell isn't anything that special. Its story is nothing spectacular, and it doesn't deserve its hype.

topopoz
01-21-2011, 03:31 AM
Final Fantasy VII, for no other reason than all the hype and asshole fanboys ruin it for me. I know, lame reason :( But the game sure as hell isn't anything that special. Its story is nothing spectacular, and it doesn't deserve its hype.

You can't be serious, you're really telling me that V is better than VII?

Final Fantasy 7 is a game that was so overrated that it became underrated for being overrated. - this isn't just me, Bill Simmons from ESPN said it.

Anyway fine by me Cor, it's just that IMO that isn't a reason to turn it into your least Fauvorite FF.

Tanis
01-21-2011, 03:49 AM
You can't be serious, you're really telling me that V is better than VII?
Yes. At least FFV had a decent battle system and fun characters.


Also, while I think FF7 and it's off-shoots basically range from 'mediocre at best' to 'crap'...not the worse.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll26/braaainsplease/dramatic_chipmunk.gif
Never mind the fan base is full on retard when it comes to talking about the game - reviewers and non-reviewers alike.


I'd say either the online games, but I don't like MMOs as is, or most of their offshoot 'brands' tend to be crap.

Also, FF3DS was kind of 'meh' and the FF4 continuation was a MAJOR letdown...'bleh'.

JohnnyMercyside
01-21-2011, 09:38 AM
Everyone has at least ONE Final Fantasy game they disliked for whatever reasons. So, just pick from the poll the one you disliked the most and state whatever reason you have for it. I will group the list into Classics (FFI-III) SNES (FFIV-VI), Compilation of FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX, FFX/X-2, FFXI/XIV, Ivalice Compilation, FFXIII and Other. For the Compilations, Classics, SNES and Other, please state in your post which game and why.

My choice?

Final Fantasy XIII.

I could go into detail, but I already have in the FFXIII section. I will say in simply: Too damn linear, unlikable characters, boring ass story and (imo that is) I hated the battle system. 'Nuff said.

Final Fantasy 12, the reason? Your last sentence, but replace too damn linear with too damn open ended and boring. It's still okay though, I don't hate it, but it's definitely my least favorite.

Neg
01-21-2011, 09:46 AM
II.

X is a very close second.

topopoz
01-21-2011, 03:43 PM
Yes. At least FFV had a decent battle system and fun characters.
Decent battle system yes, fun characters is somewhat subjective...



Also, while I think FF7 and it's off-shoots basically range from 'mediocre at best' to 'crap'...not the worse.
What do you mean about Off-shoots? Spin-offs?

Sorry I don't understand the term.



Never mind the fan base is full on retard when it comes to talking about the game - reviewers and non-reviewers alike.


Agreed...

LarryMHolder
01-25-2011, 01:29 AM
Crystal Chronicles for me, though I do enjoy the Crystal Bearers

Pos
01-26-2011, 01:25 AM
FFIX as I hated the story line and the fact that the party was seperated for the majority of two discs.

Tanis
01-26-2011, 01:44 AM
Decent battle system yes, fun characters is somewhat subjective...
What do you mean about Off-shoots? Spin-offs?
Sorry I don't understand the term.

1) I think the characters were 'fun' in the sense that while they weren't that deep, they were likable and I genuinely enjoyed their interaction.

2) Yeah, spin-offs...or the 'FF7-verse'.

CC
01-26-2011, 03:17 AM
FFIX as I hated the story line and the fact that the party was seperated for the majority of two discs.

The party being separated, I think, helps to build up the characters' individual stories better. Instead of having to take it all in at once, we get to see *these* characters for a little while, learn more about them, then *these* characters after that, and so forth. It just helps break up monotony, which, I can admit, IX is guilty of in some spots.

Chocolate Misu
01-26-2011, 03:20 AM
I've only played IV, VII, VIII, X, and part of I.......... so my least favorite of those would be I............. Why can my thief not steal?! grrrrrrr

CC
01-26-2011, 03:21 AM
I've only played IV, VII, VIII, X, and part of I.......... so my least favorite of those would be I............. Why can my thief not steal?! grrrrrrr

Play IX, would you kindly? :D Zidane's a thief who can steal~

Neg
01-26-2011, 03:22 AM
What are you doing here? Go play VI.

Fuck Zidane. Locke, bitch~<3

CC
01-26-2011, 03:26 AM
Hey, I'm sure Locke and Zidane could be the best of friends! Sharing is caring! :D

Chocolate Misu
01-26-2011, 03:29 AM
Play IX, would you kindly? :D Zidane's a thief who can steal~

I'll get to it one day. Between me and my bf, we have a copy of nearly every FF game. Let's see we have...

I+II on advance
V+VI anthology
VII
Dirge
VIII
IX
X
X-2
XII


So that leaves getting a copy of III and IV. My bf did have XIII but traded it afterwards. I had no interest in playing it and it's not like there's any shortage of copies :rolleyes: If we wanna get it back it's no hard task.

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Oh ya, and I've got Ehrgeiz :p

Neg
01-26-2011, 03:33 AM
The menu lag on the anthology version is horrible. But, VI Advance is retranslated and that's an even greater sin.

What I'm saying is Emulate.

CC
01-26-2011, 03:38 AM
Good collection :) I wish I had XIII :O I own every FF in some format. I&II Dawn of Souls, III on DS, IV on Advance, DS, AND Snes, V for Advance, VI for Advance, VII for PS and PSP, DoC for Ps2, CC for PSP, Advent Children (Movie), VIII for PS and PSP, IX for PS and PSP, X for PS2, XII for PS2, Tactics for Ps1 and PSP, and Tactics Advance (which is a game I think sucks). But IX is a must :D IV, VI, IX, and X are, IMO, the essentials of the series.

edit: I first played VI on an emulator, but I felt guilty and got rid of it. Then when it came out, I got the actual copy of VI for Advance :D

Neg
01-26-2011, 03:39 AM
lol guilt.

Chocolate Misu
01-26-2011, 03:43 AM
I forgot about Tactics. I'm pretty sure that's sitting on my bf's shelf. He likes that one, but the stoopid game wouldn't let me play :( I don't care if I ever play CC or not.


I played IV on emulator. I just like to have copies to have on my shelf............. Sometimes I think I'm too nerdy for my own good......... My own collection of stuff is at least 3x bigger than my bf's..... if not bigger............

CC
01-26-2011, 03:47 AM
lol guilt.

And lots of it, mister! I'm like CM; I like to have the physical copy of something. Feels more . . . authentic :)

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I forgot about Tactics. I'm pretty sure that's sitting on my bf's shelf. He likes that one, but the stoopid game wouldn't let me play :( I don't care if I ever play CC or not.


I played IV on emulator. I just like to have copies to have on my shelf............. Sometimes I think I'm too nerdy for my own good......... My own collection of stuff is at least 3x bigger than my bf's..... if not bigger............

CC's good! At least, I think I am! LOLZIMSOFUNNY :D But seriously, it is pretty cool. Dissidia is way more addictive, however. Also, you should play Tactics: The War of the Lions on PSP; much richer dialogue and more features. Plus, Balthier from XII is in it :D

Neg
01-26-2011, 03:49 AM
No need to turn this thread into a piracy debate.

Seriously, CM. Emulate. Unless you have a working SNES. I know you wouldn't notice the differences in the script because you haven't played it, but I'm just hardheaded that way. So yeah, get the Advance version if you want.

Chocolate Misu
01-26-2011, 03:51 AM
Ya I got SNES :) I really want to get more games for the poor thing. I barely have any.

Neg
01-26-2011, 03:53 AM
Mine's glitchy, sadly. Also a friend of mine needs to give me my carts of VI and Chrono Trigger back.

CC
01-26-2011, 03:55 AM
I have loads of SNES games I never even play :O LOADS!

Enkidoh
01-26-2011, 07:24 AM
Well, I think it's not hard to guess who the three who voted for FFIX are. ;)

As for my choice, despite FFXIII being so full of faults it makes the state of California look seismically stable, FFXII's battle system being a poor copy of FFXI's, and FFXIV being an absolute train wreck of a game, my choice is still FFX/X-2. What a horrible mess this game is. A world whose metaphysical framework is just a roughly cobbled together affair for momentary narrative convenience, stupid characters (especially Tidus - every time he opened his mouth to complain about his father I just wanted to punch him), a ridiculous plot which just completely falls apart at the end, and, a main villain who comes across as more comical than intimidating. It also started SE's sad (and still ongoing) love affair with summons being more like Pokemon and less like actual magic spells.

And as for it's superfluous sequel... BLEH. :(

Neg
01-26-2011, 07:27 AM
Summons are Transformers, now. Long may they reign <3

Hope so hard that Doom Train is in Versus or Agito (I know it's Type-O or sth, now. But, c'mon Agito is cooler.)

Pos
01-26-2011, 08:58 PM
The party being separated, I think, helps to build up the characters' individual stories better. Instead of having to take it all in at once, we get to see *these* characters for a little while, learn more about them, then *these* characters after that, and so forth. It just helps break up monotony, which, I can admit, IX is guilty of in some spots.

Yeah that is true but I must admit I am one of these people who likes the get the party by end of Disc 1 then have them follow a story as a whole. So when they changed the format of it for IX it just put me off sadly.

topopoz
01-26-2011, 11:45 PM
FFXII's battle system being a poor copy of FFXI's

The only thing that they copied of XI battle system is the User Interface & the Message Display interface, hence the UI engine is the same.

The battle system works differently under different set of Mechanics & Formulas.

It's the same thing that we can say for any FF game from IV to IX, ATB system with different customization & mechanics system.

I don't understand why you found that so flawed. :S



Well, I think it's not hard to guess who the three who voted for FFIX are.

=D

CC
01-26-2011, 11:51 PM
I am very disappointed to see IX with the most votes.

Pos
01-27-2011, 08:53 PM
I am very disappointed to see IX with the most votes.

Im not surprised to be honest.

Enkidoh
01-28-2011, 06:50 AM
Hey, don't worry, everyone's entitled to like what they please - I happen to love FFIX and nothing will change that, but, there is nothing wrong with hating the game if you so desire. So don't feel bad guys about putting FFIX as your 'least favourite'. :)

As for my comment about FFXII's battle system Topopoz, it is heavily based on FFXI, although there is one major change in the fact that attack delay is determined by the return of the ATB gauge in FFXII, where as FFXI uses a 'attack delay stat' on all weapons. But everything else is straight out of FFXI - right down to the hate system being retained (although FFXII did have a novel improvement over FFXI in that in that enemies' hate levels are visible in the form of a coloured gauge showing how passive they are.). Not that I don't like FFXII essentially being an 'offline FFXI', just some of those functions didn't quire work as well as they should.

But that's another barrel of moogles.

JohnnyMercyside
01-28-2011, 10:31 AM
It's still very tight (that's what she said) so it can go any way if there's more poll votes hopefully FF9 won't be disliked the most :)

topopoz
01-28-2011, 06:10 PM
As for my comment about FFXII's battle system Topopoz, it is heavily based on FFXI, although there is one major change in the fact that attack delay is determined by the return of the ATB gauge in FFXII, where as FFXI uses a 'attack delay stat' on all weapons. But everything else is straight out of FFXI - right down to the hate system being retained (although FFXII did have a novel improvement over FFXI in that in that enemies' hate levels are visible in the form of a coloured gauge showing how passive they are.). Not that I don't like FFXII essentially being an 'offline FFXI', just some of those functions didn't quire work as well as they should.


I don't think that Licence board & Gambits are straight from XI... Correct me if I'm wrong.

True or False, It may be heavily based on XI, but I still don't see why you point that as something negative.
As I said before, It's the same thing to say that every FF game since IV to IX has a negative point on the battle system because all of them use the ATB mechanics in common & many other formulas.

Enkidoh
01-29-2011, 10:21 AM
I didn't mean FFXII's ability system was taken from FFXI though topo - FFXII's License Board is just 'Sphere Gird MK II', where as FFXI uses a modified version of FFIII's Job system. As for Gambits, I guess you could call them FFXI's macros, which have just been automated. But as you know, FFXII's battles take place on the field map in real-time, rather than a dedicated battlefield, just like FFXI, and even FFXI's enmity system is used. As far as it's battle system is concerned, FFXII is essentially an offline MMO.

Why I mentioned FFXII's battle system being heavily based on FFXI as being a bad thing, is that style of battle only works well in a MMO environment, where the game world is run on servers, and hence allow much wider and larger areas. In a single-player RPG setting though like FFXII however, due to hardware limitations, only much smaller areas can be rendered, (especially dungeons), and as such, because areas are more compact, enemies become more closer together and are much harder to avoid.

Hence, it is just far too easy to get mobbed by enemies and your party wiped out before you even know what's happening (Barheim Passage was probably the worst area for that).

Kusanagi Fire
01-30-2011, 12:32 AM
I actually liked that about Final Fantasy XII. It's much more realistic to have enemies grouped together and assisting one another. It was even more fun when you came across a group fighting another monster. Because Square went this route, I feel the Gambit system was perfect. Players are going to select 'fight' most of the time, so why not have it automated? This pretty much made the entire game fight and heal/buff, but if Square included more advanced gambits (and quicker MP regen), I think they could have incorporated an offensive mage into the mix. FFXII had large areas, some bigger than even FFXI. If we want to talk about small (and linear areas), let's look at FFXIII...

I voted for FFI-III only because I have a hard time playing those games today.

Argus Zephyrus
01-30-2011, 06:33 AM
Crystal Chronicles... =\

aces4839
01-30-2011, 07:03 AM
least final fantasy...would have to be 12.

iHelios
03-21-2011, 10:10 PM
THOUGH I do like FFX-2, I didn't care for FFX, weird, but it's just that... I don't know. I just didn't really fall in love with much of the characters.

UltimaXemnas
04-08-2011, 10:34 PM
FFX/X2...you really need an explanation? Ok:

Nuff said...

Derimu
04-11-2011, 07:05 PM
FFX and X-2 are my two least favorite with 8 making a close third to all time worst ones.

Tanis
04-11-2011, 08:33 PM
I like how none have voted for - SNES (FFIV-VI) - +1 interwebs to the site.

Darth Revan
04-12-2011, 12:13 AM
I like how none have voted for - SNES (FFIV-VI) - +1 interwebs to the site.

Because the SNES versions are so awesome is why.

SuckItEasy
04-17-2011, 02:35 AM
Not including Tactics (doesn't exist to me), I'll say my least favorite is FFXIII, with VIII in second place.

FFXIII just felt NOTHING like Final Fantasy. The battle system was a mess. The characters weren't really cool. Too much use of the pallet swaps for monsters, instead of new designs. Final Fantasy games should not be this linear! The fist half was, anyway. Then, when you got to Gran Pulse, it was more open and free-roam, but perhaps a little TOO open. That's where I lost interest out of boredom. They just threw all the hunts/marks in all at the same point in the game. All at once. Should've been more like FFXII where the hunts were more evenly spread out throughout the game. Summons should not be mechanical transforming beings. Pretty boring story.

Final Fantasy VIII...I won't go into too much detail. I'll just say I hated the junction system. Most of the characters were boring. Finally, the story was okay, but not too interesting.

topopoz
04-17-2011, 02:55 AM
Not including Tactics (doesn't exist to me).

What do you mean?

SuckItEasy
04-17-2011, 12:20 PM
I played it once and it was just horrible.

Argus Zephyrus
04-17-2011, 11:28 PM
I like how none have voted for - SNES (FFIV-VI) - +1 interwebs to the site.
Whoever places a vote there will be tarred and feathered, then burned in a holy bonfire.
(or IV and V are protected by being lumped together with VI)
=p

Rageboy
04-18-2011, 03:47 PM
my least favorite. they're two actually...

FFII and FFX

alex_bip_15
04-18-2011, 04:36 PM
FF XIII obviously the only good thing from that game are the graphics

Alm�ranos
04-21-2011, 08:49 PM
Final Fantasy V. The story line is as lame as a one-legged horse. And what's the do with Mexican food? Salsa indeed.

Darkest Gunblade
05-05-2011, 04:17 AM
Final Fantasy V. The story line is as lame as a one-legged horse. And what's the do with Mexican food? Salsa indeed.

Infinite in mystery was the reason of FFV's existance; We sought it thus as we peered at the screen. Tears of boredom formed in the periphary of our eyes; Our slack-jawed incredulousness knew no rest.

Queen song: Drowse. Rages of tears. :(

Alm�ranos
05-15-2011, 04:02 PM
You legend! More rep required here. :)

Drowse: Thinking it right. Doing it wrong. It's easier from an armchair.(The story of FFV)

Darkshade9101
07-14-2011, 10:28 PM
3 words. FINAL FANTASY 12

Purrr
07-30-2011, 05:54 PM
FFI-III for me, I just found them tedious and boring. Thank Gods they became so much better.

EnanoMaldito
08-06-2011, 07:07 AM
definitely FF XIII, I mean, it shouldn't even be called FF... that game is SO BAD I couldn't even finish it, and I'm not the kind of guy that drops games, but the characters were horrible, it was too freaking linear. And the story.... oh wait, there was a story? All I remember is random pauses from the endless waves of shitty enemies which I have to fight with a crappy battle system where Sazh complains about his son, Hope is being all emo about his mother, Lightining is crying about her sister, Fang is whining about Vanille, who is a the same time a stupid chatty whore, and Snow just keeps screaming about how he let people die and how he is an ass. The story? some stupid stuff about things with strange names which I can't even pronounce, and DESPITE BEING HORRIBLE IT'S GETTING A SEQUEL, God save us from Square Enix.

I must admit I have never yet played FF II, guess I'll have to play it soon, it's the only one I'm missing. btw on the SNES subject, I think V is being supported by IV and VI which were simply amazing games.

JohnnyMercyside
08-06-2011, 10:32 AM
I love how people react over FF12 and FF13, they're incredibly the opposite to eachother and invoke different reactions from fans. :)

Harkus
08-06-2011, 04:19 PM
Final Fantasy XIII and I'm glad people seem to agree. The story was good but the linearity, battle system, lack of towns and the way they forced you to use certain characters for half the game make it virtually unplayable to me.

IDX
08-08-2011, 08:46 PM
That poll is biased. You can vote for the compilation of FFVII but not FFVII itself? I had more fun with Crisis Core than the original.

Plus FFVII is my least favorite and I'd choose Dirge of Cerberus over it.

Olde
08-08-2011, 11:55 PM
FFXIII is my least favorite by far. I know it had received a lot of criticism, but nevertheless I went into it with an open mind and wanted to give it a fair chance. In fact, I actually wanted to have the critics proven wrong. But oh boy, I loathed everything about FFXIII except for the graphics. I personally think it could have done better if it hadn't been a Final Fantasy, so there wouldn't be that expectation of, you know, good quality. :laugh:

Darth Revan
08-09-2011, 12:38 AM
That poll is biased. You can vote for the compilation of FFVII but not FFVII itself? I had more fun with Crisis Core than the original.

Plus FFVII is my least favorite and I'd choose Dirge of Cerberus over it.

Only had a limited amount of slots for the poll, so put the FFVII games under one banner. Same with the Ivalice Collection (XII, Tactics, etc).

Nostalgia gamer
08-22-2011, 03:25 PM
Only had a limited amount of slots for the poll, so put the FFVII games under one banner. Same with the Ivalice Collection (XII, Tactics, etc).

Why did ff9 get hate? i don't understand how ff9 got more hate than other games.

I thought a lot of people loved ff9? its quite a good game too.

Also:i hear terrible things about dirge of cerberus being really really bad and terrible thing i can't remember if it was last something or advent children.

I know there are 2 movies for ff7 but i can't remember what the second one was called.

Also:i never saw so many people love ff8,WOW!!

people love ff8 more than ff9 and 7 and 10.

CC
08-22-2011, 08:41 PM
VII only has one movie I'm aware of; Advent Children. The other Final Fantasy movie was the abysmal 'The Spirits Within', which (apparently) has some minor references to the story of FFVII, but aside from that has no immediate connection.

Also, IX wasn't really hated; it's just been brushed aside a lot more than other games in the series. It had a lot of advertising, but never any real recognition. It's ignored a lot more than VII and VIII because Square released it when new fans of the series were expecting more guns, robots and explosions while old fans were used to castles, knights, swords, etc. Instead, they get a traditional medieval setting with a story entirely different from VII's and VIII'.

I dunno, everybody has different tastes. Do I wish IX got more attention? Absolutely. Do I wish it were as popular as VII? No, it doesn't need to become an overmilked cash cow. But I do wish IX got more recognition and respect for its amazing music, story, setting and mood, rather than just being known as 'that game that brought the series back to its roots'.

Darth Revan
08-23-2011, 12:15 AM
There was a second FFVII animated feature called Final Fantasy VII: Last Order (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII:_Last_Order). It's a alternate retelling of the two major flashbacks in the game: The Nibelheim Incident and Zack's escape to Midgar with Cloud. Wasn't bad animation wise.

Nostalgia gamer
08-23-2011, 10:31 AM
There was a second FFVII animated feature called Final Fantasy VII: Last Order (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII:_Last_Order). It's a alternate retelling of the two major flashbacks in the game: The Nibelheim Incident and Zack's escape to Midgar with Cloud. Wasn't bad animation wise.


Thank you revan,that is the one i was thinking of:last order.