Surprised there's no thread for this but yeah, the sequel to Dissidia is confirmed.

So far, we know that Lightning, Tifa and Kain are in, and there will be a new assist system to let you call in a ally during the fight.

Not so sure I'm liking the idea of a sequel coming about so soon. I love the concept of Dissidia, taking the main heroes and villains from the whole series and putting them together in one game. But it sounds like now they're just snagging random characters from here and there and tossing them together. I hope they make this work somehow, considering I also read they're including all the same characters from the first Dissidia as well.

Not so sure I'm liking the idea of a sequel coming about so soon. I love the concept of Dissidia, taking the main heroes and villains from the whole series and putting them together in one game. But it sounds like now they're just snagging random characters from here and there and tossing them together. I hope they make this work somehow, considering I also read they're including all the same characters from the first Dissidia as well.

I don't know why you think it's soon. The original launched in Japan in December 2008. And this one probably won't launch until at least mid-2011.

As for me, I just hope they give it a port to the PS3 or something. I can't get used to that analog thing on the PSP... Hopefully, they'll let us use the D-pad for movement like they did in the original.

Just seems kinda soon to me because the point of the original (at least from my perspective) was to celebrate the whole series thus far with the main character cast from the original up until now. With a sequel coming about already, it just feels like they're milking it, which I'm not so sure I like.

But alas, as long as they include Basch from XII and give him and Gabranth some story I'll be glad :)

Square Enix would have been retarded not to make another Dissidia, there was a massive demand for it and btw, mid 2011 is the Japan release date, we won't get it till much later so I wouldn't say it's too soon.

If a spin off title got a response like Dissidia, I'd make a sequel, only makes sense.

Also I wouldn't call Lightning, Kain and Tifa random characters, random would be if they threw in some characters from tactics or crystal chronicles or something.

I do think FFXII will be getting a new character, apparantly Vaan's VA said he's working on a new FF title, so it's possible that one is Duodecim, I've heard fans dreading Vaan's involvement but I never played XII so I can't tell if Vaan being in is bad or good.

Really, any character from XII appearing would be a bit weird considering that none of them have a distinct fighting style, with the excpetion of a few Quickenings (special attacks of a sort). Everyone can wield the same weapons and use the same magic. The only thing that changes is their animation, and even that only slightly.

I heard the attacks used during Gabranth's EX Burst are actually used by someone else the the real game.

Also, there's been a stage from XII and II added, and a new stage almost guarantees a new character, so expect someone from II to join the mix.

Not EVERY FF will get an addition sadly, this is due to the constraints of the PSP, clearly indication this needs a PS3 port in the future.

Also, everyone will have three costumes, plus downloadable ones, I've seen a KH costume for Cloud and a costume for Lightning that makes her looks like some chick from Parasite Evil (I think).

Square Enix would have been retarded not to make another Dissidia, there was a massive demand for it and btw, mid 2011 is the Japan release date, we won't get it till much later so I wouldn't say it's too soon.

If a spin off title got a response like Dissidia, I'd make a sequel, only makes sense.

Also I wouldn't call Lightning, Kain and Tifa random characters, random would be if they threw in some characters from tactics or crystal chronicles or something.

I do think FFXII will be getting a new character, apparantly Vaan's VA said he's working on a new FF title, so it's possible that one is Duodecim, I've heard fans dreading Vaan's involvement but I never played XII so I can't tell if Vaan being in is bad or good.

Don't get me wrong guys, it's not that I don't want to see another Dissidia (in fact I'm planning on buying the first one as soon as I get my PSP back from my friend) it's just that from my perspective - something that really doesn't mean much in the whole grand scheme and I could be totally wrong here - the concept was to bring not only all of the main heroes and villains together to celebrate the series' lineage, but also bring all of the series' fans together (i.e. fans of one game and fans of another game to maybe come to appreciate all of them), rather than start a whole new franchise based on the entirety of the games that overshadows what the original one was meant to be about.

And I guess now that I think about it I agree; it's not exactly 'too soon'. I'm just getting old too quickly and time seems to pass way too fast these days.


Really, any character from XII appearing would be a bit weird considering that none of them have a distinct fighting style, with the excpetion of a few Quickenings (special attacks of a sort). Everyone can wield the same weapons and use the same magic. The only thing that changes is their animation, and even that only slightly.

This post is golden! I never even considered that, Smarty; maybe that's why Square didn't give XII as much emphasis in the original Dissidia. Much as I love XII, from what I hear the story gets pretty off-key so they really don't have one solid character to work with as the lead role, nor much story to integrate either.

lol, II

If they bring anybody from II in, I'd hope it's Ricard; after all . . . there seems to be some sort of connection between him and Kain from IV (father and son, perhaps) . . . so with Kain joining the cast for Dissidia II, the story possibilities are endless.

I vote for the guy who can talk to beavers.

Well, yea Neg, you would, wouldn't'cha? WOULDN'T'CHA?!?!?!

:)

Also, there's been a stage from XII and II added, and a new stage almost guarantees a new character, so expect someone from II to join the mix.

Not EVERY FF will get an addition sadly, this is due to the constraints of the PSP, clearly indication this needs a PS3 port in the future.

Also, everyone will have three costumes, plus downloadable ones, I've seen a KH costume for Cloud and a costume for Lightning that makes her looks like some chick from Parasite Evil (I think).

Actually, I think you mean FFXI and XII, as FFII already had a stage included in the original Dissidia (Pandemonium), where as XI and XII didn't. Either way, I'm wondering what stage FFXI would have - probably Castle Zvahl's throne room (which would be appropriate if the Shadowlord was included as 'FFXI's enemy' this time). But I guess we'll see.

As for the DLC for the next game, I admit I'm a little puzzled at the choice of 'third' costumes for Cloud and Lighting - I would have thought his Shinra trooper uniform from the original game would have been more appropriate (and it's not like they don't already have a 3D model of it - having appeared earlier in Ehrgeiz and FFVII: Crisis Core). And Lightning doing an Aya Brea cosplay? WTF?

Still, I'm just glad SE is giving us a second Dissidia, even if it is just mindless fanservice (not a bad thing - sometimes we need a little mindless fun to relax with). :)

Interesting. Curious as to how this one will be different than the first besides extra characters, costumes, stages, etc.

Actually, I think you mean FFXI and XII, as FFII already had a stage included in the original Dissidia (Pandemonium), where as XI and XII didn't. Either way, I'm wondering what stage FFXI would have - probably Castle Zvahl's throne room (which would be appropriate if the Shadowlord was included as 'FFXI's enemy' this time). But I guess we'll see.

As for the DLC for the next game, I admit I'm a little puzzled at the choice of 'third' costumes for Cloud and Lighting - I would have thought his Shinra trooper uniform from the original game would have been more appropriate (and it's not like they don't already have a 3D model of it - having appeared earlier in Ehrgeiz and FFVII: Crisis Core). And Lightning doing an Aya Brea cosplay? WTF?

Still, I'm just glad SE is giving us a second Dissidia, even if it is just mindless fanservice (not a bad thing - sometimes we need a little mindless fun to relax with). :)

Um, no, I don't mean FFXI, I mean FFII, there's a new stage from II in there (go watch the trailer) and it's beleived a new stage most likely suggests a new character from that series.

Also btw, there's the three costumes + the DLC ones, so those aren't their third costumes.

According to the FF Wiki however the only two new areas confirmed are Orphan's Cradle from FFXIII and Sky Fortress Bahamut from FFXII - although it was stated that the last area of Pandemonium also appears there seems to be confusion as to whether it is just going to be the actual Pandemonium stage this time around or an entirely separate area. Unfortunately I can't decide myself as to which it is as I'm having trouble getting the trailer to run (stupid Flash plugins), so I'm going to just wait and see on that one first before stating it as an extra 'FFII stage'.

You're right about the extra DLC though - those extra ones apparently require separate purchase of the new KH and Parasite Eve games currently in development as well to download (at first I thought they were going to be the actual 'third' costumes for those characters). So I stand corrected on that point. :)

Well it looks like a completely new stage to me, looks nothing like the Pandemonium from the first Dissidia, I think it's very safe to assume it's a new stage, you see a cutscene taking part in it in the trailer.

That Prima Vista stage fro FF9 seems to be in because of simularities to a stage seen in the trailer to the theatre ship in FF9, not as obvious as the new pandemonium stage but yeah.

I don't know about you guys but I can't wait! SE should hurry it up already!!!!

I'm intrigued as to how they're going to create a storyline for this one. A second gathering is going to be difficult to concoct seeing as............spoilers here.........(I warned you now).............Cosmos is dead. So I'm thinking that Duodecim is going to be a completely different ball game from the original; a totally different outlook so to speak.

I don't know about you, but I would have preferred Zack instead of Tifa as the extra character in the FF VII slot, even though it's not completely correct to have him there. The way I see it is that, if Cloud can have his alternative costume from AC in Dissidia, then we can have Zack. Imo only though, I know that it's not exactly fair on the original game/ fans, but I started the FF VII compilation with Crisis Core; so there is a certain level of me being biased here. I also have to acknowledge that there is a disproportion when it comes to males and females in this game.......but I still would have preferred Zack :).

I'm pretty meh when it comes to extra stages. As long as one can navigate them without too much difficulty then I'm happy.
......and we'd better be able to use the directional buttons in Duodecim or else I'm fucked. I can't manage the damn analogue stick at all (pet hate of mine).

Also what's the verdict on extra music pieces being added in?

i also vote for guy.
and ricard.

and i specially wish they include battle theme B, because its awesome

Yup! Ricard would indeed be a nice addition. :)

Cosmos isn't dead, Duodecim is a prequel, it follows the battle before the one that takes place before the one in the first Dissidia, she's shown alive and well in the trailer.

and here is a list of the confirmed music so far:

"Temple Chaos BGM" (FF1)
"The Castle Pandemonium BGM" (FF2)
"1 Battle" (FF3)
"1 Battle" (FF4)
"last battle" (FF5 )
"Battle 1" (FF6),
"JENOVA (undefined)" (FF7)
"Birth of God (undefined)" (FF7)
"Force your Way" (FF8)
"The Final Battle" (FF9)
"Flash" (FF13)
"Requiem of Birth" (FF13)

Cosmos isn't dead, Duodecim is a prequel, it follows the battle before the one that takes place before the one in the first Dissidia, she's shown alive and well in the trailer

Umm yeah, I did a bit more research behind Duodecim the other day and saw what you mean. I didn't know that it was a prequel when I wrote that previous post. Sorry, I should have looked into that point sooner.

At the moment I just can't see how having Duodecim as a prequel is going to work exactly. I understand that the former game's storyline made it immpossilble for a sequel but I still don't see how a prequel can have more characters/ involvment from other worlds (ie. the world of FF XIII)/ and more content then it's supposed sequel. Because of all the add ons, Duodecim will at least feel like a sequel......well, to me at least. Does this make any sense at all??????

Hummmm, some very good music choices slated there, what do you think?

Vaan confirmed:

That was only to be expected, as now FFXII has two characters (Vaan and Gabranth) featured.

Wait a minute, who is that blonde-haired girl Vaan's shown talking to in that bottom image?

EDIT: apparently it's meant to be Terra in a costume based on a little-known Amano artwork of her. And there I was hoping Celes was going to be a new addition. :(

Sorry man, but it sure looks like Terra to me too.

It'll be interesting having Vaan in this won't it? I wonder how that will work out.

Sorry man, but it sure looks like Terra to me too.

It'll be interesting having Vaan in this won't it? I wonder how that will work out.

Or any character from FFXII really. They don't have a distinct fighting style or even weapons and magic unique to them. They only differences between are the quickenings (which Dissidia's Gabranth certainly used)

New scans:

I'M CAPTAIN BASCH FON RONSEMBURG OF DALMMAAASSCA! lol

Enkidoh: Yeah, Celes would be a great addition.

That's just Gabranth's third costume though - his appearance when he assassinated the Dalmascan king at the start of the game (and pretended to be Basch). Basch himself won't be appearing in Dissidia 2, but you probably knew that already. :p

Yeah only one new inclusion for every game that gets one and not all of them will.

Pretty cool what they did with the costume anyway.

Do you know who the second installment for FF XIII will be yet?

What do you mean?

I just hope that for FFXI, they pick a Mithra instead of that hyperactive and deranged lunatic of a Black Mage, Shantotto.


I'm up to the final battle of 'A Shantotto Ascension' in FFXI... and this demonic @#$^&@*&!! is a real BITCH...

What do you mean?

Well, we already know that Lightning has been added but I was just wondering if they were going to include anyone else from FF13?


I just hope that for FFXI, they pick a Mithra instead of that hyperactive and deranged lunatic of a Black Mage, Shantotto.

Amen to that! Can't stand that laugh of her's....you could peel paint with it!!!

Mithra is a good choice, at least she's got style!!!

Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVS8xTAAzIc&feature=sub)

Definately need a Mithra to represent FFXI in Dissidia Duodecim. I vote for the infamous Cat Burglar of Windurst, Nanaa Mihgo:


The one in the middle is Nanaa Mihgo. The other two are her flunkies Bopa Greso and Cha Lebagta

Shantotto was confirmed to be reappearing in Dissidia 012, so I doubt very much SE will be putting any other FFXI 'hero' type characters this time around sadly (not that I consider Nanaa 'biachface' Migho to be a 'hero character' in the strict sense of the word).

And sadly DH, according to successive Vana'diel Censuses tarutaru are the most popular character race in FFXI, so I doubt even more a mithra character will ever appear in a Dissidia game (other than Shantotto's taunt toward Zidane in the original game, calling him a 'male mithra' because of his tail ;)). Not to mention mithra characters had the least bearing on FFXI's storyline too sadly (especially Nanaa did little other than have a very minor role in a Windurst mission, even less a role than Shantotto had).

However, there is still the possibility of a FFXI villain appearing, even though nothing has been stated yet (my gil is on the Shadowlord - after all his battle theme Awakening appeared in the original game as an unlockable music track so it's highly likely he'll be throwing in his lot on Chaos's side - which would also mean the 'FFXI stage; would most likely be the Throne Room from Castle Zvahl, with the Shadowlord's tomb in the background, making it resemble the Mission 6.2 BCNM fight in setting.)

But I guess we'll find out in due course as more info is released.

I liked Shantotto :(

I'll be purchasing it, bearing in mind the fact that PSP is region free so I should be able to play a J. copy using a translation guide.

I'm just going to wait for the English language version myself - after all the international release of the original had certain tweaks and extra bonuses included that the Japanese original lacked (mainly Friend List icons), and, given the speed that games now come out internationally after their Japanese release I'm sure I can wait a few months extra to play it. ;)

TM: I love Shantotto in the first Dissidia too - especially once she's been developed a bit. Her HP attacks are downright devastating, although some spells can be 'reflected' or even miss completely, and her Brave attacks really screw around with the player (Bio and Bind are just as frustrating here as they are in FFXI ;)).

As her EX Burst mode, although difficult at first, is a pushover once the trick to it is figured out (start at Flare and work your way down the Ancient Magic list quickly from there).

So I'm intrigued how SE are going to refine her abilities the second time around.

Incidentally, more Dissidia 012 news has been released:

Another FFVIII character steps up (although hopefully without leg-cramp!) (http://www.uffsite.net/news/456/ff8s-laguna-joins-the-fight-in-dissidia-duodecim-final-fantasy.html) ;)

And, the World Map is now part of game play! (FFI's World Map being featured) (http://www.uffsite.net/news/457/dissidia-duodecim-gets-a-proper-world-map.html)

Very interesting - I really like how the game is turning out (away from the 'board-game/fighter' hybrid and towards a more RPG-eqsue style, but still keeping withing the bounds of a fighter.) :)

Looks like Laguna Loire will be in.

I still prefer Seifer but I'll gladly take Laguna.

Shanttot has one of the deadliest EX modes in the game, it almost guarantees that your EX Burst will kill your opponent.

Also yay for Laguna.

Man, I can't even put into words how amazing Dissidia is, and so is this sequel! I AM BEYOND PSYCHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like all we're seeing so far are new heroes; hopefully a new hero and villain appear from each game, which means maybe Seifer will show up from VIII (it would only make perfect sense, after all).

DISSIDIA FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

CC, it's confirmed that there will only be one inclusion for each game that does get a new character and not all games will.

Now Laguna's confirmed, that automatically deconfirms ANYONE else from VIII

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CC, it's confirmed that there will only be one inclusion for each game that does get a new character and not all games will.

Now Laguna's confirmed, that automatically deconfirms ANYONE else from VIII

Maybe they're reserving Seifer and others for Dissidia: Tripledecim :D

Apparently, Yuna's been confirmed, as she is "partially" seen at the end of the Jump Festa Trailer. However, the trailer hasn't been released or leaked to the net yet, so it's unofficial at the moment.

We'll know soon enough.

BTW videos of the newest characters:

YouTube - Vaan vs. Tifa � DISSIDIA 012 [DUODECIM]: FINAL FANTASY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obX9KOEyrjE)
YouTube - Laguna vs. Lightning � DISSIDIA 012 [DUODECIM]: FINAL FANTASY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MikU6Xb1XsE)

Which one would it be?
Gunner or Summoner Yuna?
She'll probably do the same thing Cecil does in the game "transform" back and forth. That's just a guess.

I like your theory on that Izanami. Or maybe her X-2 form will be her EX mode form.

Or maybe, like in X, she'll have a choice of summons to take her place for EX mode. . . .

BTW, I'm disappointed Vincent won't be appearing.

I'm looking forward to this game!

Mostly because Kain is supposed to be in it.

He was my favourite from IV. Not sure why though.

Also, Laguna? Oh man. That is going to be... interesting.

Not sure why? Because Kain pwns, that's why. I am geeked about all the new characters and can't wait to see what all this game has to offer. Seeing as how it's a prequel, it's gonna be cool to see how the story (what little there is of it) connects to the first game. These are the characters I would've liked to see also join in the action. (hey, a guy can dream, right?) Tell me if you guys agree.

Vincent
Auron
Wakka
Rubicant
Gilgamesh
Cid from VII
Garnet/Dagger
Rikku (in X-2 form)
Seifer
Setzer
Edgar and/or Sabin
Luneth from DS III
Reno and/or Rude
Zack
Xande
Freija (hell, anyone from IX except Quina)
And last but not least, GENERAL LEO and/or CELES!!!

Yeah, that's probably why.

Xande? Oh man, you mean that guy from III?

I remember him in the DS remake! He was kinda creepy.

I wouldn't mind him being in a Dissidia game though.

Yea, Xande's kind of 'behind-the-scenes' if you will. He doesn't get as much time in the spotlight as, say, Golbez or Kefka.

On second thought, he does get more screen time than Sephiroth (the REAL Sephiroth, not counting the clones).

New trailer confirms Yuna:

YouTube - Jump Festa 2011. � DISSIDIA 012 [DUODECIM]: FINAL FANTASY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8weYDNpG8o8)

You gotta wonder whether she's gonna be a summoner or a gunner...

I'm still hoping that the FFV representative will be the mighty GILGAMESH.

Judging from that trailer, I'm wondering if that's kind of the complete new cast or if any others will be snuck in. It just looks like one of those final trailers where all the ideas are in place and the company is just getting ready to release the game now.

But I can't complain; I love all the choices they made to bring into the character roster :)

They really need to start announcing some chaos characters, there's too many cosmos ones.

Agreed. We need a FFXI villain in it at least! ;)

And one from IX! I'd love to see either Beatrix, Garnet, Steiner, Vivi, Freya, Lani or Amarant appear. Although I'm hoping for Garnet or Vivi more than any others.

The only reason Vivi might not get in is because he would probably be similar to Shantotto and one of the factors that determines who gets in is whether they add a unique playstyle to the game, that's why Laguna and Vaan got in but of course Vivi is easily the most popular character in IX so he could still get in.

I want Beatrix though but mainly cause we really need some villains in this, even thought Beatrix wasn't really a hardcore villain in IX but then again neither was Jecht.

Well, it looks like a new FFXI character for Dissidia 012 has been confirmed - Prishe, from the second FFXI expansion Chains of Promathia. ()

Additionally it seems there's also going to finally be a FFXI battle arena for Dissida 012 as well - the Empyreal Paradox, which would suggest that there is a possibility that Promathia will end up being FFXI's villain, being the location he's fought at the end of the final CoP mission. Either way, my interest is definitely piqued. :)

Didn't we know about Empyreal Paradox weeks ago?

Also, at the end of the Duodecim trailer at the 1st Production Department, you can hear someone saying "Long time no see Bartz" in Japanese. Then a Rift Portal opens up above Bartz and someone falls out.

I'm 99.9999% sure: GILGAMESH CONFIRMED

*celebrates*

Boy, Duodecim just keeps getting better and better all the time!!!

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Nomura made Vaan even More Girly... lol.

Kain, Laguna & Vaan. This is awesome.

Man, the artwork looks great. I liked that a lot about the original as well. Can't wait to try this out.

Pretty sure this game will ship on 2 UMD's. It must be huge.

Laguna Laguna! :D

Guys, there's a mini game of Dissidia avalible called "Dissidia Duodecim Prologus" which is on the asian PSN for 300 yen, it has its own seperate story scenario different to the main game and allows you to play as Lightning, Kain, WOL, Garland, Jecht, Spehiroth, Kefka and Cloud who has to be unlocked.

I got it for free cause I have a hacked PSP but lemme tell you, Lightning and Kain kick some serious ass man, especially lightning.

And yes, Gilgamesh is in, artwork of him was leaked (and there's a trailer where you hear him talk to Bartz)

YouTube - Dissidia 012 Duodecim Final Fantasy Promo HQ PDP 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcYRcMJ3MWM)

Shows Yuna in action too :naughty:

And, hmm, wonder who that is talking to Bartz at the end :)

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Oh, and I saw something about Terra and Cloud being on Chaos' side in this game :/

Also, I hope Kain's English voice actor isn't the same one as in the DS remake of FFIV.

That video is sorta old, and only after a few days, too. Prishe is in it, and the guy talking to Bartz near the end is Gilgamesh. Terra, Cloud and Tidus are all on Chaos' side, due to amnesia, mind control, brainwashing, and/or some combination of the above, specifically tailored to each one of them.

Oh, and I saw something about Terra and Cloud being on Chaos' side in this game :/

Also, I hope Kain's English voice actor isn't the same one as in the DS remake of FFIV.

I'm not sure about Terra, but I heard Cloud and Tidus will be on Chaos' side and Jecht will be with Cosmos.

Just wondering, will there be just one new character per FF?

I really wanted to see some Edge vs Rubicante.

Sorry Goof Ball, but unfortunately only one new character from each game is appearing. Since Kain is going to be included from IV, then that means nobody else from that game will be appearing. :(

And no games from the NES era get characters.

The only games that could get inclusions which haven't are VI and IX.

Also, XIII MAY get a second representative.

I saw a video, but for the life of me I cannot find it again now :mad: But, in it, it shows Kain's EX mode. Looks like he takes his helmet off and he has long blondish hair and hurls a large orange spear toward his enemy. Doesn't show his face much from what I recall, but I'm disappointed Liam O'Brien is returning as his VA from the DS FFIV remake. Liam does a lot of good work and has been in a lot of good roles, but the voice he did for Kain just doesn't seem to fit. Well, I can't complain; I'm too excited about how awesome everything else in this game will be :D It actually plays out on a world map just like FFI's, and even plays out with a three-character party that is interchangeable. So, it appears that it's going to play similarly to the main series titles :)

I saw a video, but for the life of me I cannot find it again now :mad: But, in it, it shows Kain's EX mode. Looks like he takes his helmet off and he has long blondish hair and hurls a large orange spear toward his enemy.

That's his Holy Dragoon form from FF IV: After Years.

There's a video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD22EDv7SpI&feature=related) but the quality is not very good

YESSSSS! That's the one! Thank you! As one of the commenters said, "Oh, I just can't WAIT to be Kain!"

I pre-ordered the game Monday and will be getting it some time in March.

No word on the price or release date, however.

Rumours going around that the good guys can play as bad guys and vice versa. If this is true what do you guys think of this? :)

I thought that was pretty much confirmed - in the story mode Terra, Cloud and Tidus start off on Chaos's side while Jecht starts out with Cosmos. Apparently though it's only temporary and they soon switch back to their correct 'alignments'.

From what I heard, Terra was being controlled by Kefka's Slave Crown, Cloud succumbed to Sephiroth manipulating the Jenova cells in him, and Tidus... I have no idea how they could explain his turn to the dark side. Unless SE uses some lame idea from FFX-2, making him become Shuyin or something equally ridiculous.

But then, this game is pretty much just fan-service anyway so the original games' canon need no apply. ;)

Well obviously it's a prequel so in the end the good and bad guys get ironed out. It's still intruiging though, seeing our "heroes" hopefully acting villainous. And vice versa. :)

[QUOTE=Galaroval;1567869]I don't know about you guys but I can't wait! SE should hurry it up already!!!!


I don't know about you, but I would have preferred Zack instead of Tifa as the extra character in the FF VII slot, even though it's not completely correct to have him there. The way I see it is that, if Cloud can have his alternative costume from AC in Dissidia, then we can have Zack. Imo only though, I know that it's not exactly fair on the original game/ fans, but I started the FF VII compilation with Crisis Core; so there is a certain level of me being biased here. I also have to acknowledge that there is a disproportion when it comes to males and females in this game.......but I still would have preferred Zack :).

I quite agree with these sentiments. Zack would have been cool. Frankly I hop Duodecim comes sooner rather than later; I getting sick of getting my ass whipped in Tekken

But then, that wouldn't work because I remember Nomura stating that it's the goal of the development team to have each character 'unique', with their own unique abilities and attacks. As Zack is essentially 'Proto-Cloud', it would be almost impossible to make his abilities different to Cloud. This is the same reason why Vivi wasn't included in Dissidia too - being a Black Mage his role is already effectively taken by Shantotto from FFXI, making him basically surplus.

Not to mention the UMD format isn't exactly the most highest-capacity format either, so there is bound to be limits on how many characters they can bring into the game (I presume this is also why FFI-III haven't gained any new characters this time around).

I read on the Final Fantasy Wiki that Dissidia 012 will have DLC.

Is it all pre-order bonuses, or will it be avalible on the PS Store?

I just want both to have PS3 and XBox 360 ports =/

Well, only one more week guys.

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btw there were magazine scans of Gilgamesh not too long ago, looks like that's gonna be it for this game in terms of characters.

I'm starting to fangirl over the game already and it doesn't get released until the 25th of March!

Devastating isn't it? 25th of March is just too far away. I want it now!!!!!

Gilgamesh from FF5 announced! Fuck yeah! :D

Hehe, I know that feeling well Gala. I can't wait to be able to have Shantotto team up with Aeris to grind Cloud into the mud. :p

And apparently, there is a backwards-save feature in which you can upload your save data from the original Dissidia so I have extra reason to want to play it. ^^

EDIT: Gilgamesh is old news Johnny, but it's still cool anyway. ;)

I already have 6 games this year I want.... now 7 with this.

Knew this year was going to be a good one for games.

Lol I get the game next week on release date :P

There's gameplay of Prishe and Gilgamesh on youtube btw.

Damn, the game is almost here? Time sure flies.

Devastating isn't it? 25th of March is just too far away. I want it now!!!!!

Well, I reckon it'll be worth the wait. So we all gotta be patient!

ONLY A FEW DAYS

Dissidia 012[duodecim]: Final Fantasy’s Box Art Is A Bit Busy Gallery |Siliconera (http://www.siliconera.com/postgallery/?p_gal=114617|0)

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I can't find the freakin' pictures now, but I've seen Gilgamesh's renders in the game. He has outfits including the one from FFV (as in, his sprite [and he was even posed the same way in render-form in the pic I saw]), from VIII (when he tries to oust Seifer), and the standard is the one based on Amano's original artwork of him.

HOLD ON LEMME FIND THE PICS

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Gilgamesh/Dissidia - The Final Fantasy Wiki has more Final Fantasy information than Cid could research (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Gilgamesh/Dissidia)

I don't know about you guys but I can't wait! SE should hurry it up already!!!!



I don't know about you, but I would have preferred Zack instead of Tifa as the extra character in the FF VII slot, even though it's not completely correct to have him there. The way I see it is that, if Cloud can have his alternative costume from AC in Dissidia, then we can have Zack. Imo only though, I know that it's not exactly fair on the original game/ fans, but I started the FF VII compilation with Crisis Core; so there is a certain level of me being biased here. I also have to acknowledge that there is a disproportion when it comes to males and females in this game.......but I still would have preferred Zack.



But then, that wouldn't work because I remember Nomura stating that it's the goal of the development team to have each character 'unique', with their own unique abilities and attacks. As Zack is essentially 'Proto-Cloud', it would be almost impossible to make his abilities different to Cloud. This is the same reason why Vivi wasn't included in Dissidia too - being a Black Mage his role is already effectively taken by Shantotto from FFXI, making him basically surplus.

Not to mention the UMD format isn't exactly the most highest-capacity format either, so there is bound to be limits on how many characters they can bring into the game (I presume this is also why FFI-III haven't gained any new characters this time around).

........SPOILERS..............
I would just like to tidy up this little foopa I made a while back. While I was working yesterday I finally figured out why Zack couldn't (and will never) become an extra character in the Dissidia series. Basically it's because Cloud would probably have an appaplexy if he saw him, 'cause well, ain't he supposed to be dead? I just can't believe I was that stupid to have forgotten something so OBVIOUS. Though all of Enki's reasons are also applicable, it's the fact that he has kicked the bucket that makes it all so final.

Yes but don't a lot of the main villains die at the end of each game? I don't think that ruling would work. Then again, Zack did die BEFORE the events of FF7.

Another thing about Zack, I don't know why they don't make him a third costume for Cloud personally. Maybe if they want to add his voice too. And if they REALLY want to, make him a seperate character in Cloud's third costume, replacing Cloud, and give him his own story. I think that third suggestion is really rocking the boat though.

I'm also sure he'd ask Cloud for his sword back and then slap him like a bitch when he refuses.

anyone know when prologus is gonna come to NA? i couldn't find anything yet

It probably won't be made available outside Japan, but apparently the extra content featured in it is likely to be bundled as DLC for the US/European versions of the full game (which I definitely hope so - Aeris assist especially ;)).

According to the EBGames website, Dissidia 012 will be released on the 24th of March, in Australia.

Prologus has been confirmed to come out in both the US and EU. When is anyone's guess. Sometimes before Duodecim comes out, presumably.

Also, a new form of Chaos called Desperado Chaos is playable after beating him in the "000" story mode. The original Chaos is still only fightable as a boss or in Quick Battle - that is, he isn't playable.

MAJOR SPOILERS FOR DUODECIM'S STORY AHEAD

Kain, Tifa, Vaan, Yuna, Laguna, and Lightning all die at the end from a Manikin zerg rush. Being killed by a Manikin erases your existence. Now do you know why they aren't in Dissidia 1?

Well, considering all the villains who died at the end of their respective games came back to life, I don't really consider Dissidia's story to actually be canon to the main series anyway, but just a spin-off (like the KH games). Fan-service, nothing more.

Besides, the story is really just a framing device for explaining how Cloud can go one on one against Squall to decide who's the most emo anyway. ;)

Am I the only one playing this game?

I've played as all the characters, haven't touched story though since I don't want to spoil myself before the english release (used an online save to get Gilgamesh, Prishe and Desperado without doing story stuff).

I started uploading vids:

YouTube - Dissidia Duodecim: Cecil Vs Gilgamesh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tfmg93VnWY)

YouTube - Dissidia Duodecim: Cecil Vs Tidus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctKq5JaaQlU)

YouTube - Dissidia Duodecim: Laguna Vs Sephiroth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPWiZg9bboE)

prologus confirmed for march 15!!!! for NA Dissidia Duodecim Prologus Arrives In North America Next Week // Siliconera (http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/10/dissidia-duodecim-prologus-arrives-in-north-america-next-week/)

Then a European/Australian version shouldn't be too far behind either. :)

Also, preordered the European Collector's Edition earlier today from my local EB Games. The 24th can't come quick enough. :p

Bout damn time.

Retarded date for a demo though, only reason they'll get away with that late release is cause you need it if you want the Aerith Assist.

Prologus's European release has been pushed back to the 23rd of March for some reason (two days before the full game's actual European release which is unchanged): https://member.eu.square-enix.com/en/blogs/dissidia-duodecim-prologus-final-fantasy-coming-psn-next-week

Although a week isn't too big a deal, I wonder exactly what the cause of the delay is? (most likely Sony are dragging their feet again with localisation). Still, at least it's still coming either way. :)

Looks like a great game, kind of deja vu when my sister was telling me there should be a Final Fantasy fighting game and then two weeks later, Dissidia(one) was announced :P

European version was leaked.

so naturally I grabed it and am playing it right now.

Prologus has finally been released in Europe - although on my shitty net connection it's taking over an hour to download. Still, at least I finally have it (the Aeris assist is a separate download that's included in the purchase price of Prologus (that's a niffty bit of alliteration :p), and it's a good thing to hold me over til the full game's release on Friday (which I have on preorder). :)

I've already nearly got everyone to level 100 X_X

And just finished all the story scenarios.

MAN am I anxious to get my hands on this game! I've already watched a couple of gameplay videos (in English!) and I am buying this game ASAP!

I bought the regular edition today from JB Hi Fi. Square must be kidding themselves if they expect anyone to pay $10 more for five oversized playing cards.

You do get also DLC included as well (namely extra costumes for Squall and Tifa), but yeah, compared to the original Dissida's big Collector's Edition, it doesn't seem worth it. I actually mistook the 'legacy edition' for a regular one when I picked my copy up at my local EB Games - I had to ask the clerk if it really was the Legacy Edition. I think he picked up on a trace of disappointment in my voice then.

Still, it's nowhere the waste compared to Prologus. $5 AU for what is just an extra side story and an extra assist character (Aeris) who only appears for barely a second at a time (and can't even be used in story mode?)? What a rip-off SE. ><

Ah well, I'm still enjoying the game immensely. Finished Duodecium's story mode, and unlocked both Prishe and Gilgamesh (man, Gil's dialogue cracked me up! :D). I don't feel like doing the original game's story mode again at the moment, but I will get around to it eventually (especially as there was tons of equipment I missed the first time). Either way, it's going to keep me busy for a while. :)

FINALLY GOT TO THE END OF THAT FUCKING LABYRINTH GOD IT WAS SOOOO LONG